Dodgers Territory - Chris Woodward Joins, Doc's Determination, Mookie's Early SS Prep

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

Newly appointed Dodgers first base coach Chris Woodward shares his insights on the team’s aspirations to repeat and how he plans to embrace his new role. (0:30)(4:36) Having held a variety of roles within the organization over the years, Woodward reflects on the 2024 World Series victory.(8:35) Amid the infield's constant rotation of players, Woodward delves into Mookie’s early preparation for the starting shortstop role, sharing what he’s eager to contribute as the first base coach.(13:08) As one of the winningest managers in modern baseball, is Dave Roberts’ remarkable ability to “block out the noise” the secret behind his success?(20:31) DT host Alanna Rizzo delves into the latest rumors surrounding Roki Sasaki, breaking down which teams are still in the race to sign the Japanese phenom.Subscribe to DT on YouTube! DT is LIVE on Mondays & Thursdays at 12p PT/3p ET all year long!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but we can still point out a base running thing, hey, we got to take tighter returns around the basis. We got to get better secondaries. Hello, everybody and welcome to a brand new episode of Dodgers territory live on this Thursday afternoon. I am your host, Alana Rizzo. Clint Piscius is out of pocket this week. He will be back with you next week.

But we have a better guest today. I hate to say it. I'm kicking Clint Piscius to the curb because Chris Woodward, the Los Angeles Dodgers first base coach, is kind enough to join us live from his vacation in Hawaii. Thank you so much, CW. The only person I like that is a Raiders fan, I have to say that. Thanks so much for being on the show, my friend. Welcome back to the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Tell us a bit about how this came about your reunion with the club. Well, I think once I left Texas, Andrew reached out right away and was like, listen, we're going to bring you back in some capacity. This feels like home to me. Obviously, it always has since I came here in 2016. team. So it was a pretty easy decision. And the last couple of years spent a lot of time, you know, working in the front office, doing a bunch of stuff on the, on the player development side. Obviously, a lot of stuff in L.A. as well, just kind of overseeing a lot of different

things. And it was really good. I got to spend a little time at home for the first time in 30 years. So that was kind of nice. But obviously, this, you know, situation, obviously really happy for Clayton to get the job in Miami and, you know, kind of reached out to Andrew. And he asked me, my opinion on, you know, who would fit the role best. And, you know, I just said, hey, listen, like, I'd be interested. I wasn't sure I would have been right away, but I think it just really well. And, you know, I spent a lot of time in the last couple of years with the big league team and with all those players. And it was a smooth transition and couldn't be happier. Yeah, you had mentioned a lot of player development stuff that you were doing some behind the scenes

things. But you've been with the club, obviously, the last couple of years. Most folks know you as the third base coach of the Los Angeles Dodgers prior to your stint as the Rangers manager. Now you're on the other side of the field as the first base coach because of course Dino Ebel is at third. How does that role, what changes about your role in terms of the box that you're standing in? Well, listen, I started off in my big league coaching career in Seattle as a first base coach. And I loved it. I, you know, being involved in the base running, that was something as a manager that I was very, very involved in. Obviously on the hitting side, the pitching side as well, but base running was always very, I don't know,

I was very passionate about it. And that was one of the biggest things I did in the last couple of years is trying to get our base running better. And we have some great coaches in the minor league side. You know, Jeff Salazar has led our base running department for the last couple years and he's done a tremendous job. So I have obviously assets that I can lean on on the minor league side to make sure that our players are kind of doing what we want when we get them to L.A.

But, you know, obviously picking apart pitchers and working with our base runners, trying to just, you know, that's a big, part of the game. These little details that obviously showed up in the World Series, they helped us win. And so it makes it easier for me to kind of make sure that the entire organization is kind of following suit to our, you know, we have the highest standards in baseball, in my opinion. And, you know, obviously my job is to make sure we abide by those. You know, when I talked to you when we were both there together in L.A., there were so many guys

that credited you with their ability to have better footwork, their movement within the infield, What do you look forward to the most when working with infielders? I know Dino's going to kind of take over the outfielders a little bit, but you're back with the infield crew. What do you enjoy most about that? Obviously, that was my passion as a player. I was an infielder and got to move around. I think moving around all the different positions, you know,

I actually spent some time at first base in my career. But coming up as a shortstop playing second, playing third, I've always been passionate about it. And Dino did a great job, honestly, the last couple years since, you know, being back. You know, he kind of took over my job when I left to Texas. you know, this is one of the hardest working infield groups I've seen. So it just kind of adds a little bit more sometimes on, you know, some of the informational stuff that, you know, just trying to make guys a little bit better.

But overall, I feel like we're in a really good spot. And, you know, obviously with Mokey playing shortstop, that's going to be, you know, I love the guy. He works, you know, harder than any human being I've ever seen. He's all in to try to obviously be the best he can be at that position. So there's obviously a lot of, it creates a lot of value. And like I said, you know, we literally won a World Series because of our ability to do those little things, especially on the defensive side. What was your reaction to that in 2024 as a World Series champion? A little bit different, obviously, when the club won it in 2020 because of obvious reasons.

But what's that feeling like for a coach, knowing all of the effort and the work that goes into it and finally being able to get to the ultimate prize and bring that much deserved and much wanted championship back to the city? Yeah, you know, it was obviously there's a lot of blood, sweat, and tears. And I think, you know, as a big league coach, you know, I was lucky enough to kind of get into the big leagues right away as a coach. And, you know, you spend a lot of time with the players and you're there every day. The last couple years, honestly, I think those years in Texas, you know, you're trying to build a champion. And they ended up winning. And I was really proud and excited for them. It was a little bit bittersweet for me.

But overall, coming back to the Dodgers and seeing it, you know, obviously getting your hands dirty and, you know, getting in with a. players from a ground level, but also pulling back and seeing it from the surface or from the, from the global level, you know, from a front office standpoint and just seeing all the people that are involved. I don't think as a coach, you get so wrapped up in just like the day to day that you don't get to see that. You don't get to feel all that. So being a part of the entire organization, you know, from a PD side, player development side, the scouting side, you know, the front office, you just see how many people are involved to create this. And then to see what happened, happened, you know, in New York was just a testament to all the hard work. It's one of the hardest

working groups of players I've ever been around, but also the staff as well. I mean, they're just relentless. They're just constantly trying to push, you know, us to be better in every way possible. And obviously, that's why I'm so excited to be back, you know, full time, because I've missed that the last couple years. You said the testament to what they were able to do in New York. I think you're talking about obviously the wins there, but most importantly, game five, perhaps inning number five. the fundamental baseball that the Dodgers played, that the New York Yankees didn't, for whatever reason, could have been a mental latch, just could have been whatever. Speak to how much that made all of the hard work seem even more worth it, considering the way

that those guys went about their business, the Dodgers, in that fifth inning to completely flip the Yankees on their head. Yeah, I mean, the whole series, honestly, was pretty staggering. If you look back at the numbers, I think they out hit us, they outpitched us. they outnumbered us in almost every category. But yet, you know, we took advantage of mistakes. We didn't make little mistakes. And these are things that, like, I'm obviously very passionate about.

And I know our entire organization, Andrew from the top, sets the tone. We obviously hit well. We pitch well. We do the bigger things well. But, you know, the way that Freddie Freeman runs the basis, the way, you know, Muky Betts takes his attention to detail in every single thing he does, our best player is Kersh. You know, I've been around Kirst, lucky enough, since 2016.

And watching him work and training. and his relentless pursuit of just being the best he could possibly be. And you look at Kike right there. Just him getting in the throwing lane of, you know, Volp is something that we talked about a lot. And he did it here. Obviously, you know, you look at, you know, covering first base. Just simple things that obviously we take a lot of pride. And we do PFPs.

I know Bob Garon's hard on our guys. We do PFPs and, you know, once every series or once every homestand. And guys don't roll their eyes. Like, our guys, like, understand the importance of it. And I think that comes down to, you know, every coach, every person in our organization, just making sure that we value every little deal. No stone unturned. And that's what I preach every day.

And like I said, glad to be back a part of that. Let's speak to this Dodgers infield. You mentioned Mookie Betts briefly, obviously. You have Freddie Freeman at first. Max Muncie's at third base. We don't know yet if it's going to be, you know, Gavin at second base. What we're going to do with that? Looks like Tommy Edmund's going to be the starting center fielder on a daily basis.

How do you want to improve? prove what is already a very good infield. If you had to poke holes, how do you want them to get better? I think we can always get better. And I think that's obviously our job as coaches, just to, you know, not, you know, listen, when there's no overhaul, obviously, I'm really proud of Mookie. You know, he's got an entire offseason. He's got a couple months before spring training.

He was taking ground balls and working on things, you know, in November and October. Like, he wanted to be obviously really good come this season once he realized, okay, I know I got to make, I got to make sure I'm the best shortstop. You know, I'm a championship caliber shortstop on a World Series team. So, you know, his relentless pursuit to just be the best he can be. So when spring training starts, he's like fully ready. I think that each guy kind of has, you know, some little things that they can improve.

And I think that's where, you know, as a coaching staff and as a front office and an analytics department, we can kind of, you know, pick apart, pull back the onion a little bit and just see like where people can improve. And Muncie, honestly, I'm probably one of the most proud of for last year, the year before he didn't play. as well. He came into camp last year and worked his tail off right from spring training. And he maintained it all the way through. And there was definitely moments throughout the season when I happened to be there. I wasn't there all the time. But when I was there and I come into town and I watch him work and just kind of pat him on the back, man, said, hey, man, I'm really proud

of like you're sustaining this work. This is why you are playing well. And also we're not trying to tax guys. We know we got to play 162 games. But the way that our team works and the way they want to work, you watch Miguel Rojas is routine and even Lux's routine. They played really good baseball. And I think that's why we were able to sustain it all the way through October. Miguel Rojas has been on the show before Chris talking about just working with Mookie. Obviously, Miguel's a very good shortstop in his own right. Mookie's probably going to the Hall of Fame.

But just kind of talking about how Mookiee is still willing to learn. I mean, this is a guy that's accomplished, what everybody wants to accomplish in his career. He's a multiple time World Series champion. What can Mookie do in the off season to continue to improve at the shortstop position? honestly what he's doing now and i'm really really excited for him because you know one of his best friends is ryan goins who i really respect who's with anaheim and we've kind of collaborated and you know he kind of set him on a plan and you know he wanted to start from the beginning and you know foundationally just okay we got we got to we got to clean up the footwork we got to do some certain

some things his throw looks a lot better and listen i'm not going to get into the details of technique but his willingness to learn and want to learn is why he's so good at so many things the reason why he can repeat a swing the reason why he can and bowl of 300 game. I'm guessing he's really, he said he's going to make a ball. So I'm guessing that, you know, he just wants to dig in on every way possible to be the best. And it's relentless, you know, and you have to obviously match that.

Like with your, you have to have the same relentless approach to every day digging in. I think with him, sometimes he'll tend to overwork. So my job is to obviously make sure he doesn't like, you know, burn himself out. But at the same time, like, I love the way his brain works. And that's, you know, you put the physical skills and the physical ability along with the relentless pursuit to just be the best he can be in. There's no secret to why he's good at almost everything that he tries to do. It's the new me.

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obviously thought about that a lot. I don't think there's anything you can do that everybody always wants to be prepared and say, I want to make sure I'm ready. You're never ready for stuff like that. You try to prepare yourself the best way you can. And I guess just hold true to your values. If you go out and you set out, you're obviously going to adjust and change at times based on the organization and the players you have and the staff you have, you have to obviously to be able to adjust. But like your pillars, your foundation of who you are, what you believe in, don't lose sight of those. I think that I was, that's probably the one thing I was most proud of in the four years. I never did.

And I think with him, he's a talented coach. He's a talented player. I mean, a talented, just everything he does, he's relentless. And he's obviously very humble, but also very stern in his expectations of players. And I'm really proud of Clay, man. He's, I've watched it. It's actually around him, you know, when he was with Toronto for a minute. And then obviously coming back to the Dodgers, you know, going to the Dodgers 16,

and then being around in the last couple of years and just watching him work. He's one of the best coaches I've ever been around, honestly, at the major league level. And players know that. Obviously, Louie has said that publicly. But now leading an entire organization, make sure he stands by the values that he set, you know, from the beginning. And wish him the best, man. I think he's a great leader, and he'll be great for that organization. And having been a manager yourself, I would imagine that you have even more respect for what Dave Roberts has been able to do over the tenure of

his core of his time there in LA. I mean, getting to this team of the postseason every single time. I mean, going to three different World Series, you know, what he was able to do this year with the rash of injuries that this club had. How much more can you appreciate the job that a manager has to do, not just the, I know it's a football term, but the X's and O's, but everything else that goes along with being a manager of a big league club. Yeah, it's tough. And every, every manager has to deal with different circumstances based on their organization. Doc came in to, He was given the keys to a pretty good machine, but at the same time, there's massive expectations that come along with that.

But obviously, my experience was much different in Texas. We had a rebuild, and we had to basically start from scratch. So totally two different paths, but at the same time, I have nothing but respect for Doc. I was with him his first year in 16, 16, 17, 18, and we went to two World Series, didn't win. The amount of criticism and people point fingers, and listen, when you take that job and you sign those papers,

you know that it's all going to fall on your shoulders rightfully or unrightfully. So that's something he's had to bear the brunt of. But I'm so proud of him. Obviously, it's super proud of it in 2020, you know, in Texas when they won. And then last year, the last two years, honestly, I know we didn't win two years ago, but what he did with that team to make it a hundred and something win team with all the injuries we had that year. And then last year was probably the finest, you know,

season I've ever been around a manager have. And I, you know, the one thing I told them at the end there, I really saw the team start to take shape and take hold of his, like, grip. One thing that Docs always had is a player. And, you know, as you talk to him personally, he's got a ton of grid. It comes across as a nice guy and, you know, very personable, very outgoing. But deep down, man, there's a grinder. There's a fighter in there that, you know, showed up, obviously, as a player.

And, you know, you start to see our club take, you know, take that kind of personality. And you see in the playoffs, man, that game four. in San Diego, that was, that was everything. Our season was on the line and, you know, our bullpen showed up and shut them out. Didn't give up a run the rest of the series. You know, Freddie did what he did. That, you know, being hurt, there was so many things that happened. But I feel like Doc's leadership allowed for all those things to happen and he never, you know,

lost sight of, hey, guys, I got your back. And that was awesome to see. Let me ask you this. Dave said that he doesn't listen to the noise because he's not on social. media. How important do you think that was? I remember when we were at Dodger Stadium several times on the very small amount of downtime that you had. You'd be outside and you're always reading books. And I remember that was kind of the way that you perhaps shut your mind off for a second from baseball. How do you quiet the noise? It's tough. Obviously, it's tough. We live in an era that it's really tough.

I obviously, you know, I got involved in obviously a few things. You know, the Tatis 3-0 Homer. And I'm not afraid to talk about it, obviously, just because, you know, these are things that kind of spark, you know, people's comments. And, you know, they obviously have the right to say what they want. But obviously, you've got to find a way to kind of, whether you listen to it or whether you choose to not even look at it, you've got to obviously factor that in. And it's going to affect your life. It's going to affect your personal life, your family, your kids. But you can't let it, you can't let it, like I said, what I was the advice I can give him to Clayton. You can't let it affect your foundation of who you are.

And I think that that's probably the biggest thing that I've noticed with Doc, like where it's, you know, he hasn't let all that criticism and all the noise get to him somehow. And he's had the highest expectations of, honestly, any coach or manager in professional sports. There's no team that is expected to win the World Series like we are every single year. And then to see what happened last year, obviously, for us to win it. I expect this team to be, you know, contending for the same thing every year and year out. we're that talented. And obviously, we have a great leader. For NL. Penance, two World Series title under his belt. Let's talk about Shohei Otani.

He's probably going to be with you at first base quite a bit, although he hits the ball out of the yard a lot, too. So maybe he's just like flying by you, kind of, you know, slapping hands. Are you going to headbut show Hey, Otani like Clayton McCullough used to do when he would get to first base? It kind of like, you know, like, you know, hit their helmets next to each other every once in a while. Are you going to continue that tradition, Woody? Are you going to create a new one? We'll see. Obviously, that's one of the conversations that have to have a show, Hey, and Freddie and all these guys to see what they want to do. Obviously, I've got to fill them with some information beforehand, but I love it.

I love guys that celebrate. It's hard to get a major league hit, and anytime they get over there or they walk or whatever it is, like, hey, let's celebrate it a little bit. So I love it. I think it just brings back the enthusiasm, the passion for the game. And if he wants to bang helmets, I'll do whatever he wants. As long as it doesn't belong to where I obviously got to give us some information. But I love that stuff. Yeah, as long as he doesn't hurt himself. That's all that matters. Honestly, when you look up and down this lineup, Chris, and you look at the pitching staff and everything that this Dodgers team has, I mean, barring injury, we all have to deal with it all 30 clubs do.

Is there any reason that this team couldn't run it back? I mean, if you had to wave a magic wand, is there any place that you would shore up or something that you would like to see? Listen, I think it's really hard to repeat. It hasn't been done. And the Yankees, I think, were the last team to do it. And it's really hard in any sport. You see that every year. It's like, okay, they won the World Series and they only make the playoffs.

Obviously, we're most likely going to make the playoffs and we have a very talented team. But I think as long as we keep our sights on things that we can control, we obviously have a ton of superstars that have been doing this a long time. They don't get caught up in the moment. They don't get caught up in the off-the-field stuff. We have some younger guys that we're going to have to corral and make sure we keep them in check. but I think just focusing on details keeps us away from that. You know, we're obviously going to be,

we're going to hit homers, we're going to score runs, we're going to have great pitching. But at the same time, like, the good thing is when you have a great team, you can pick apart little things in a positive environment where we're actually still winning, but we can still point out of base running thing, hey, we've got to take better, tighter returns around the bases,

we've got to get better secondaries. You know, we've got to get off the ball on defense a little bit better. We've got to execute pitches better. So there's obviously always things without over, you know, without killing the confidence of the team. But I think our team is built around process and detail. So it makes it easier as a coach because they want that. You know, Freddie wants that.

He gets on guys when they don't get proper leads and proper secondaries. Mookie gets on guys when they don't put their work in. Obviously, Kirsch and some of our pitchers, you know, they're not put in into the work. Like, how do you expect to be great? And our expectation isn't just to be good enough. Our expectation is to be the best in baseball at everything we do. And we have the talent to be able to do that, which is nice. Yeah, the first three guys that you mentioned, likely headed to Cooperstown.

Chris Woodward, first base coach of the Los Angeles Dodgers. Thanks for taking the time. Great to see you back on the field with the club. I know you've been kind of behind the scenes the last couple of years. Thanks for the time, Woody. We appreciate it. Enjoy your vacation. Well, dear.

Thanks, wow. All right, Chris Woodward always appreciate the time. All right, let's get to the big ticket. A couple things we wanted to discuss here as far as where Roki Sasaki might end up. I mean, no news, really. there is still, of course, the rumors that teams are still in on Roki Sasaki and the Dodgers are one of those teams. The Dodgers, the Padres, the Cubs, the Yanks, the Mets, the Rangers, maybe the Giants, not the White Sox, obviously. Others could be added to the list.

We do know that the Red Sox and the Phillies were not awarded a face-to-face meeting with Roki Sasaki. So it looks like those two teams are probably out. A lot of people speculating as far as 50-50 is concerned, either Los Angeles Dodgers or the San Diego Padres just because of the Japanese ties in both of those places. Jim Bowden, of course, saying that those are the teams that are still in. People have speculated that Otani and Yamamoto on board could favor, obviously, L.A. and the same with Darvish in San Diego. On fair territory this morning, Ken Rosenthal reiterated that we should expect the decision to become between January 15th and 23rd. Again, at a $12 million price point, any team in the big leagues could be in on Roki Sasaki.

we'll see where he ends up. Of course, he has a big say in terms of where he ends up. His agent, Joel Wolf, saying that they will decide soon. But obviously, $12 million is not a huge price tag. Interestingly, Roki Sasaki asked that no players attend the initial meetings per his agent. That a tweet from Alden Gonzalez, who covers the Dodgers and Major League Baseball for ESPN. All right. So we'll see what happens as far as Roki Sasaki is concerned. Let me know in the chat if you feel that if the Dodgers were done, If the season started today, do they have enough to run it back? Obviously, you heard Chris Woodward talk about the fact it is very difficult to repeat.

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