Dodgers Territory - Dodgers in on Edwin Diaz? Another Relief Target Off the Market

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Alanna Rizzo and Clint Pasillas break down the latest news and rumors involving the world champion Los Angeles Dodgers. After one rumored free agent target comes off the market with Ryan Helsley signing with the Orioles (3:58), could the Dodgers be in pursuit of top free agent reliever Edwin Diaz (5:23)? And is Diaz the best option, or does fellow All-Star right-hander Devin Williams make more sense (8:32)? The hosts discuss.Plus, Alanna and Clint take questions from the live stream in an offseason edition of Bleedin' Blue (15:19)!This holiday, give your loved ones the only gift that keeps on giving — health. Go to Superpower.com/gift to get a free $49 gift box with your gifted membership.   Use promo code BlackFriday for black friday savings!dodgersterritoryshop.com/promo/BLACKFRIDAYSupport Guidry's Guardian at guidrysguardian.orgFind Clint on YouTube at youtube.com/@alldodgersSubscribe to Dodgers Territory on YouTubeRate and review our podcast on Apple and SpotifySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Personally, I don't think they need someone of the ilk of Edwin Pias. However, it's not our money. It's not my money. And happy Monday, I believe it, yes. It is Monday night football tonight here in my area. Last night, it was Sunday night football. The Broncos eking a win out in overtime. Clint Paceas, Alana Rizzo, your daughter's terrible. host for the next half an hour. Super psych that you are here.

Buenos Tades fanaticos. Kevin is already in the chat. Kevin, thank you. Speaking of the chat, Clint, we want our listeners, our followers, our friends, our viewers. Not only do we want you to like, not only do we want you to subscribe, not only do you what we want you to help us get to 15,000 subs. We want you to participate heavily in today's show. We want to hear what you guys are thinking about what is not happening in this off season. It is very, very quiet and it is very, very cold in terms of the stove. So Clint, you and I talked about it, our production meeting. It's very, very quiet, but hopefully it heats up.

Yeah, we need something to heat up. You know, I'm bored. I'm bored of this offseason. It's funny, Riz, you think back to one year ago, there were all these rumors. There were things happening. There were stuff, you know, moving. There was Roki Sasaki rumors. The Dodgers had just signed Blake Snell.

before that, or around that time, too, you have, are the Dodgers going to bring back to Aes or Hernandez, all this kind of stuff. Plus, you know, we were talking to players and things, you know, it was, it was fun. It was a fun offseason. Something's different about this off season. And I think you could kind of attribute that to the fact that Dodgers don't have a lot of needs. And that makes it both great for the team, but a little boring for us and the fans. Boring for this time of year, but let's get into it. We'll talk a little bit more about it in the big ticket see the, see the direction the Dodgers are going. Let's do it. All right. So the MLB winter meetings are going to happen next week in Orlando, Florida. Hopefully it's the beginning

of a lot of signings. Hopefully it's the beginning of a lot of action. It typically isn't to that way ever since the world of social media and every single president of baseball ops, general manager, ever since they all got smartphones and the world in baseball moves at the speed of light now. this type of week doesn't mean as much as it used to back in the day when you had to have face-to-face meetings in owner's suites and those types of things but to your point clint last year at this time you'll remember blake snell was signed i believe on november 30th so that was yesterday of two thousand and 24 um the dodgers were already said to have been all in or at least a lot of the way in on roki sasaki there were certainly teoscar hernandez return rumors

at this time last year. They needed stuff last year, not so much this year. And again, to your point, that's a good thing, right? It's nice that we don't have so many holes to fill. And right now I feel like the Dodgers just need some ancillary pieces. But it's also kind of like if we're staying, Pat, it's kind of a bit of a boring off season. And then you're hoping that everybody comes into spring training healthy and looks great

and can build upon yet again another World Series championship next year. Yeah, I mean, again, this roster is very good. They can go out there right now and compete for a World Series, probably beat most, if not all of the teams in the league, even the Rockies. I don't know why I felt like attacking the Rockies there. But yeah, you know, Dodgers are an incredibly good spot. Other teams are making moves, signing some players that the Dodgers had some interest in, as we've heard this offseason. Of course, we know Riz, the team is said to be looking for right. handed leverage relievers, one of the names off the list.

A guy we've talked a little bit about Ryan Helsley signs with the Baltimore Orioles. They're out there making some moves. Good on them. They're also very, very bad in 2025 coming off of a couple of pretty decent seasons. But I think it was a two-year, like $28 million deal. You know, this follows, you know, Rice-Elegas, another guy the Dodgers were said to have been linked to. I don't know about you. Helsley was not at the top of my list of guys to sign.

He was, you know, of all of the names that throw right-handed and have pitched in, you know, high leverage situations, he was one of them. He was just a name. He was a name. You're right. He does have one of those. It was funny to me because I remember watching it on Cardinal territory. And I think Lance Lynn was on foul territory one day that Scott Braun was off when I was hosting.

And Ryan Helsley made it very apparent that he thought St. Louis was going to reach back out to him, which I thought the honesty was interesting for a player to actually say like, oh, yeah, I expect that team to contact me, but no, it's the Orioles. And good for them. The Orioles need a lot of improvement, though. I believe the Orioles need more starting pitching than they do a right-handed, you know, leverage arm. But good for Helsley. And Rai Sele-Glasius, off the board, went back to Atlanta. Alex Anthopoulos said that was the plan all along. He wasn't traded at the deadline, so they just extended him. And here you have it. So if you look at the closer market, which you and I have talked about at length on this show and on other shows, I think the closer market is the most interesting one,

because there's the most talent, I think, when you're looking at that particular position. To me, it was like the shortstop market a few years back when there was a lot of really quality shortstops in the free agent pool. So that being said, the one at the top of the list, and that's kind of depending upon how you feel about it. And again, you guys get your thoughts in the chat about how you feel. Mark Feinzand, who writes for MLB.com, works for a lot of other outlets as well, listed the Dodgers as a top landing spot for Edwin Diaz.

And I actually had a texting conversation today with Fine Sand. I wanted to see if he could come on the show on Wednesday to talk more about this. And he's not able to this week. But he was saying, you know, the same thing we were saying. It's been so quiet. And he joked. He's like, hopefully everybody signs this upcoming week, which we know that's not going to happen. But that would be a lot of fun.

And I do think that the free agency period should have a deadline. Only for our sake, not for the players. I know, not for the players. But for us, just to have something to talk about. That would be fun. But is Diaz? guys is Diaz Clint the perfect free agent match for the Dodgers as Mark believes him to be. Yeah, I mean, I think it's an intriguing question. We know, I know you really want this team to,

to land a closer type. There are, there's a couple of big names, as you mentioned. There are no better closers, more accomplished closers on the free agent market than Edwin Diaz. Personally, I don't think they need someone of the ilk of Edwin Diaz. However, we're just having a conversation a little bit ago in my my all Dodgers discord about the idea of it's not our money it's not my money even if you're paying this dude 20 million a year for the next three four five years you would only 15 though because ESPN hasn't projected for a four years sick I think that's low I think that's low yeah 15 million a year for a closer of that caliber if he was the edwin dyes of two years ago Tommy trumpet edwin dyes I would take that. I mean, we'll get to the numbers in a little bit, but, but to its core, if the Dodgers are in on, on Edwin Diaz, listen, I'm not going to be upset about it. Anthony Tacomo, who also covers the, the Mets for MLB.com. This, this fella here, I don't know what he does, but somebody turned me on to this tweet, which led me to Reddit, ask me anything, Reddit, AMA that the Como did

this morning saying that in his opinion, he'd have to consider the Dodgers a favor to land Edwin Diaz. For no other reason that they are the Dodgers, so that's kind of funny to throw that in there. But his expectation is that David Stearns, the GM, President of Baseball Operations for the New York Mets, doesn't really like to spend on relievers.

Then again, neither, generally, neither do the Dodgers like to spend a bunch of money on the relievers. It was kind of shocking to me last year with that Tanner Scott deal. I can see them maybe being the same. a little more in on it this year in an Edwin Diaz deal. But we've also talked a lot about Devin Williams, and those are kind of the two names that are at the top of the free agent closer, righte reliever market. And that's the question I have for you, for the chat as well.

It's do you go with Edwin Diaz and you kind of have maybe more of a rock solid option? Because he's been great. Outside of that knee injury and surgery and missing the 2023 season, He has been great. As for Devin Williams, obviously, last year, bit of a struggle in New York to say the least. Asked our friend Derek Lewandowski over in Pinstrype Territory for his thoughts on Devin Williams. And then, you know, he also missed a lot of time last season in 2024 with a back injury.

Numbers wise, put this together real quick. I mean, the numbers, honestly, somewhat comparable. They're very comparable. Like, they're both very good pitchers. That's the important thing. Yeah, I mean, that's a. I mean, certainly Devin Williams, 2025 was nothing to write home about. I mean, Edwin Diaz certainly his was.

But I'd love to see the Edwin Diaz, you know, 2025, 22, Edwin Diaz before he got hurt in the WBC, obviously, in celebration. But I wouldn't be upset with either of them. And to be clear, we're not talking about Edwin Diaz coming to the Dodgers guys for $15 million. We're saying per year. I'm not saying $15 million total. I'm talking about an A-O-V of $15 million. year. I saw somebody in the chat that said there's no way he goes for 15 million. Avi. There was the ESPN report or projection of four years and 60. I think it's going to be more than that

personally because because what? He opted out of the final two years of a five year 102 million dollar deal, which means he left, you know, 20 and change on the table. I think he's going to try to surpass that. Personally, I think he's going to look at another five. He could be. I don't know. I'm not trying to sign Edwin Diaz to a five year deal. I'm not trying to sign a closer to a five-year deal. So if Devin Williams can, you know, he's going to, Devin Williams is going to come with a lower price tag. And I remember,

Devin Williams was an absolute beast with no one. Yeah. So I would not, I would absolutely not mind having Devin Williams as the Dodgers closer. I would be fine with that. And I think that that will give the team, not this is a team that needs payroll flexibility, but whatever,

that will give the team some payroll flexibility to spend that money elsewhere. Yeah. I really like the idea of Devin Williams in that he is a high upside dude. You can kind of get him on maybe a little bit of a buy-low deal, probably get him. We've mentioned, you know, so far this off-season, probably get him on a one-year deal with a team or a mutual option for 2027, assuming or presuming there is baseball to be played in 2027. That's a problem for a different day. But I really like the idea and the idea of also the payroll flexibility and understanding

that the Dodgers have a lot of pitchers. We talk about the starting rotation side of things. A lot of those guys, they're not going to have a 10-man rotation. So some of those dudes are going to need to move into the bullpen where you have, River Ryan, who could be an elite reliever. Kyle Hurt, who will be an elite reliever, mark my words on that one. Ben Casperius should be in the bullpen for the entirety of the year next year. Who knows if Roki Sasaki ends up in the rotation or the bullpen.

So next year, well, after 26, you probably, have a spot open with you know, Blake Trinan, either not resigning or retiring or whatever. But you have enough dudes to backfill this where I don't think you need a guy for three or four or five years. So I don't, that's why I don't know that Edwin Diaz ends up wanting to come here. But, well, I mean, yeah.

Money talks. Well, it does. But if he cares about the years, I don't think, I don't think LA is the place for him. I just don't see, I don't see Andrew Friedman and, you know, Farhan or whomever is signing the checks now, doing five years for a reliever. I really don't. Maybe he can go five years to the Lakers if Edwin Diaz wants to go. No, I think we already did our Lakers chat last week with Andrew Friedman taking over or doing something, whatever he's doing for the Lakers.

But guys, get more chats in, get more thoughts in. We do have a super chat. I want to throw up there. Yeah, super chat from 300 GJW, I believe that is. It says, I see the following sign. Devin Williams and Mike Yistremski. I don't hate it either. That's an interesting, it's an interesting play.

I mean, I don't hate that. No. How about we do this? Let's take a quick break. Let's hear from our friends at Fowl Territory. Then let's come back and we're going to dive all the way into the chat. So we will be right back. And we're going to address that comment further.

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chats in. The thoughts in the chat here. I want to go back to that super chat, though, from 300 GJW. Mentioned Devin Williams, yes, 100% on board with that one. You and I spoke last week for our Thanksgiving show, where you kind of, we glossed over Mike Yistremski on that list of, that I paired down to the 12 kind of cheaper free agents. I've had a little bit of an idea or a little bit of a chat this offseason, a little bit of, I guess, dialogue about the idea of signing Mike Yistremski as a,

You know, big time fall, fall, fall, fallback plan, another, you can call Michael Conforto 2.0. I don't hate the idea of Yostremski. I don't know, though, that I'd rather just see this team, you know, run Alex Call and Ryan Ward out there. But you were kind of against Yistramski, you know, passingly as we're trying to wrap up the segment. Like, what are your real thoughts on? He just wasn't in my top three. You know what I mean? And like, we, we presented it, the way that we presented it to one another was like,

if you're going to take a Black Friday deal or whatever, who would it be? And I was, he thought that I don't like Yaz. I just think that he wasn't in my top three, right? So, but I mean, another left-handed bat. Obviously, he knows how to play the outfield. Is he the end-all be-all? No, but I don't know that you need an end-all be-all. I mean, this is a kid that doesn't have the sexiest average in the world.

He's a 238 lifetime in terms of batting average OPP of 324. Slug 447 OPS 772. You know, he's a serviceable player, right? Obviously, the majority of his time in the National League with the Giants. And then he was with the Kansas City Royals for a hot second last year. You know, the guy can give you some doubles. I mean, his career year in terms of doubles was 31 back in 2022. I mean, he's not a massive home run hitter.

Although in 2021, he did have 25 long balls. and that's the majority, at least 81 games in San Francisco, and that's not easy to do. That's not an easy park to hit home runs in. But, you know, left-handed bat, I don't mind it. I don't hate it. I mean, he can't be the centerpiece of anything, but it's not a bad signing.

I mean, it all depends on what they end up doing with Teosker, I guess, and if they're going to sign a legit centerfielder. Yeah, I don't know that they end up going and signing or even landing a legit center fielder. I think that's our best case scenarios for sure. they end up with a with a with a bucks in or maybe they signed cody belliger i think the market's going to be that the price tags and be too high on cody for what kind of will almost feel like a somewhat reduced role for him even though it's not but he is not he doesn't need to be the star

that he was in his first go-round um and and again if you're just having somebody who is filling in a spot in left field with yostremski and kind of um kind of lending to Dave Roberts. He had mentioned, other people had mentioned the idea of bringing in people who hadn't won, signing players who hadn't won and having them kind of chase that, you know, chase that,

wanting to win, chase a ring and all that kind of stuff, getting different vibes in there. I could see Yistramski, but I'm not a huge fan of it. I'm not against it. I'm not a huge fan of it. I'm not against it, but I don't, I mean, he's not somebody that I'm like, oh my gosh, that's a game changer. That's a team changer. You know what I mean?

I just don't I just don't I just don't see that happened got an interesting yeah I got an interesting thought here from slack rabbit Tim saying is mookie mooky fix at the plate with a with a move batting him forth moving him down to the lineup and batting him forth of course that's I don't think it was is he batting forth by the end of the world series I don't know I don't think that's too low I think he was yeah I know he's moved out of the two hole but yeah yeah maybe it was but again like I don't remember I mean it was the world series feels like six years ago yeah honestly by the way one month ago today they won so wow 10 years ago today Dave was 10 years ago today today or yesterday so yeah anyways uh no I I I believe they end up moving uh keeping mookie back in that

two whole by the time we get to the opening day and all this kind of stuff uh he's going to be better than he was for the majority of last year. We saw him go on a hot streak. We saw him find something. He's going to be healthy. He's going to be not needing to worry as much about learning the shortstop position. Mookiee Betts, I don't know, Riz.

I don't know if he's going to be all the way back, but Mookie Betts will be back. I'll lay it out now. He finishes top five and NLMVP voting in 2026, throwing it out there, laying down the gun. Really? Markis. Top five? It's not. I mean, I, okay, top five. I can say top three, probably not.

I guess it's not going to win. Show Hey exists. Mookie hit fourth in game six and seven. So thank you, the juggernaut, 53, 27. I'm going to assume that you're correct. Gordon names 1892. Bets, Mookie bat at third in the World Series. Yeah, third I remember. I didn't remember him batting fourth, but that's okay. It's probably hammered. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. You got any particular chats you want to hit before I find some of the other ones that I have. laying around because I've saved some. How about this one?

A lot of these are related to our thought for the road. So we'll wait for that. All right. So what about D. Alvarez 22? They should sign Walker Bueller and turn him into a closer. He's still good for one or two. I don't hate that. I don't think Walker would do it.

Yeah. Because I think, first of all, starters get paid more. Walker, I would believe, would want to prove himself that he can still do what he did. But I don't hate Walker as a closer. I think that he has such good stuff and one to two innings, if he can harness that fire for the, you know, like an eighth inning or a ninth inning role, I don't hate that idea. I don't know that it's with the Dodgers, but I don't hate Walker as a closer. Yeah, I definitely don't see that move happening.

Just because Walker is still but a young enough boy, he can go out there and try to start. I don't know if he's got anything left in the tank right now. Hopefully getting another year removed from that Tommy John. He finds a little bit of something. He finds some consistency. But, yeah, much like last offseason, it's not going to be with the Dodgers. And I think now, even more than it was last year, he doesn't make sense for this pitching staff. D. Alvarez also had brought up, and this was one of the ones I'd saved.

They're not trading Glasnow or trading for Scoobel. I agree on both. There was something that came out last week of ESPN columnist Jesse Robbins. Dodgers mentioning that, you know, it would, or him mentioning that an MLB executive said he could see the Dodgers trading from their surplus of starting pitching, starting pitching. Yeah, it wouldn't be Glasna. I agree more with your idea of Emmett Sheehan because he's young, cost controlled, coming off a good year.

Another team's going to want that rather than assuming a lot of Glasnob money. And Glasnab doesn't need to be an ace. And that's okay. He's perfect for our number three. or number four. I agree. Moving on. David had this.

Trade rushing, bring back Austin Barnes. The rushing hasn't had enough of a chance to do anything. They're not all winners. They're not all winners. Indigenous 69 would love to see Kenley Janssen back in Dodger uniform mentioned and that he is a Dodger legend. And also saying I'd like to see Cody Bellinger, Devin Williams, and Kenley Jansen. We talked last week on our Thanksgiving Black Friday show about

Kenley Jansen. I think he makes sense in in, yeah, filling the Kirby Yates role, which they probably kind of don't need. Yeah, and you also give him a chance every once and again to get up,

you know, the saves that he needs to get up to 500. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I wouldn't hate Kenley back, just not as not in a closer rule. You said we don't need a closer,

right? we could have like six or seven. I really don't think we need. This team needs a closer. That's the important part. That's the important part is really emphasizing that needs. Our buddy, Richie,

was in the chat. This is for the love of God. Can other Dodgers channel stop with giving the Seeger to Dodgers and Glass Now as a trade bait, talk, a rest. It's all off season clickbait BS. Richie,

it's either you get no content or you get bad content from at this time of a year sometimes from some folks. I'm going to give you homework. Richie, find out if Corey Seeger in his 18, no trade, if the Dodgers are one of them. Go find that out. Go, Richie, go. Talk, yeah, talk to who's, who's Corey's, uh, uh, his agent? Is that Casey Close, I think?

Boris. Oh, oh, yeah, no shit. Dumb, what a dumbass I am right now. Of course he's a Boris. Uh, let's see what else we got here. Yeah, a lot of people really want us to talk about the Rendon thing. We, we will save that. We're going to talk about that for a baseball thought for the road.

As you guys can imagine, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, Anthony Rendon related. It is it is angels related. Your boy has some thoughts. So, so we'll say that much. What else are we got here? What about Seekerer at 951? Mullins has been exciting to watch in Baltimore. Unfortunately for our blue right now in the next two years of W. Aries. I can't see. Urbust. World Series of. Oh, World Series. Sorry. Yeah. Our bus, no, got to go bigger. I don't know. There's no unbelievable outfield or out there that I'd be like, oh, my God, that's amazing.

And I'm not paying 400 grand or 400 million for Tucker. Sorry. No, no. I think that's, man, that's the most like, to me, such a really, he, he, like, this is where I feel show hey, broke baseball because then again, then you move that to a $760 million for Juan Soto, which is. $7.65. So ridiculous. I'm sorting the man, $5 million. like Mike Trout at the time was worth 465 or whatever that extension.

Kyle Tucker, great baseball players. Just, I don't know. I don't know what makes up a $400 million baseball player, but he does not give $400 million baseball player to me. Yeah, no.

But again, again, it's, I don't ever fault the player. Like, get as much as you can. Get it. Yeah.

Get it. But, you know, who's to say who's worth what? It's whatever they're willing to, be whoever the owners are willing to pay. Yeah. You know?

And I guess again, the whole idea of, of, you know, it's not our money. Lana, if you can recommend wine from Costco or Trader Joe's, which would you recommend? Trader Joe's, I don't, I don't have any. Costco, which is like the equivalent. We have Costco and BJs out here. They have some decent wine. Like, like, like name brand good stuff. Like Costco and BJs.

So I don't know. do nickel. You could do I like Dow. that's from Paso Robles in California. They have that there. They have Camus. Camus is good. They have Vuv,

which is my favorite champagne. So there you go. All the hard hitting stuff here on Lagerster. This has been drinking quarter. Hey, again, we haven't really done just to hang out with the chat in quite some time. So I'm glad we're doing this. Oh, I don't know. Rose, Rosman Carino.

Yeah. My favorite player out of Cuba. That's a great question. Come on. You got to make it Pueg. No, he's not my favorite player. Well, with that, I'm going to need some like, like the, the, the wildest, barely safe for work, Pueg story you can tell.

That's not like creepy and you're going to defame him in any way. I don't have any non-creepy. Now, he's just crazy. He's just crazy. He's just crazy. He's just crazy. My first, like, media event I did with the old job was covering the poker tournament in 2018. And my hard hitting question, Alana.

Oh, I was there. I know. My hard hitting question was, what does the bat taste like? Because he was licking the bats at the time. He said, I don't know. It tastes like crazy. And I was like, that's the right answer. That's the right answer.

One thing I was told about him is he doesn't always make the best choice. in life, but he does have a very large heart. He's a very giving and generous human being. He doesn't always, yeah. He's well-intentioned. He's well-intentioned, not always well-executed. Let's put it that way. Yeah.

I don't know. I like Mike Lowell, who's Puerto Rican, but Cuban. He's one of my favorite people. Raoul Bonias, one of my favorite players out of Cuba. Yeah, solid. The end. The end. Dee Alvarez wants me to recommend a good beer.

Oh, man, good beer. All of them depends on how I'm feeling. If I'm camping, there's nothing that beats an ice cold, Miller light. That is a great camping beer, setting up your tent and all that kind of stuff. If I'm drinking with the boys, Modelo, Pacifico, you got to get down with those. I love how you, like, throw away. in the Spanish accent there. Some people know that you're...

Pacific. Pacifico. Mira, because I know, okay? Because I know. Anyways, I don't know. I mean, those are mine. 805 is also a good time. Give me a Coors banquet in the bullet bottle.

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All right. Baseball thought for the road here, Riz, and it popped up a whole bunch in the chat. Justin in particular, Justin Lomas, Yamas, however you say it. He asked about it a whole bunch. Yeah. So hey,

Glenalana, what are your thoughts about Hollywood lifestyle, aka Anthony Rendon, getting bought out in Anaheim and retiring? Imagine if we signed him in L.A. back in 2019. And his last sentence is the whole point of this. The Dodgers, no pun intended, dodged a bullet. Imagine if he wouldn't have said

that L.A. in terms of L.A. proper was that Hollywood lifestyle that just didn't suit him. Well, apparently playing baseball didn't suit him either. Because I played more games at third for the Angels than Anthony Rendon did over the tenure of one of the worst contracts in baseball history. And much better for Artie Moreno to have given him that contract. And Artie, to his credit, is given a lot of massive contracts to position players, not always to pitchers, but to position players, many of which have not worked out. Josh Hamilton, Albert Pooleholz to a certain extent.

Mike Trout only because of the injury situation. But Mike Trout, you know that he wants to play baseball. Okay? He hates it when he's not on the field. Anthony Rendon, in my opinion, I don't know him personally. Just couldn't hate the game more than he does. And maybe I'm completely wrong in that. But the point is he has not played often for them.

He was given a massive, massive contract. To the Washington Nationals credit, they only could take one contract on. They chose to take on Stephen Strasbourg instead of Anthony Rendon. That served them well up until the end when Strasbourg was like pretty hurt and had to retire anyway. But I think you ask anybody in that Nats front office that was there, they're glad that they took Strasbourg over Rendon.

Rendon has been a waste of space in Anaheim. And I feel badly that the fans were subjected to somebody that was paid that much that, again, and he legitimately could have been hurt. I'm never wishing wishing ill will or hurt on a player, but he did not present himself well. And the optics of Rendon did not go well. And now they have to probably buy out, because it's all guaranteed money in baseball, which I'm fine with.

But now they have to buy out the final year of a contract that was an absolute bust. They could have built a whole other Disneyland for that shit. Yeah, I mean, you could have. Or he could have already could have signed a pitcher or two or three with that kind of money. Yeah, what a weird ending to what was a very bright baseball career, very bright baseball future. I mean, to think that he essentially played his last meaningful season as a 29-year-old or something like that

and has been getting paid. He played the full season in 2020, 58 of the 60 games. Of course, didn't make the postseason because Angels don't play for the postseason. That's another whole conversation there. but yeah just it's so so weird and I love it the the main thing you said there most important thing you said there amongst many great things you said was like the the presentation of it that's what made it worse he never once really seemed to feel bad no he never ingratiated himself to the fans and I'm not saying you have to be you know you have to be the I don't even

know the word like be all kumbaya everything but I mean my god at least act like you like the game pretend oh man and you know there are definitely some injuries in there there's definitely some woes um but yeah the fact that he just think of the air conditioning system that moreno could have put in at angel stadium if he wasn't playing branganyer somebody said uh in the chat here by the way they said uh Lana cook in here somebody said shots fired d alvarez shots fired absolutely and when it comes to the angels like am i wrong like am i wrong like I have yet to see anyone come to the defense of Anthony Rendon. Active player, former player, anybody.

No. Yeah, just a bad presentation overall. Could have been a better career. Couldn't have happened to a better organization. So, so congrats, Anthony Rendon, whatever. It's obviously it's not official. It seems like he's going to, you know, retire and take some sort of buyout. I'm stealing everything but a bag.

Well, actually, you didn't steal a bag, a big bag. I would take that deal in a heartbeat to not have to do a damn thing. You know what? I wouldn't. I would feel so guilty. Oh, yeah, yeah. If someone gives me a dollar and I don't pay it back or I don't work for it, I feel guilty, right? So it's like if someone's going to give me that contract and I'm like, I'm worthless

and I can never be on the field or I can never do anything to support the team or at least like, I don't care. I'll do any. I'll fix the AC. I would feel so guilty if someone gave me that amount of money and I'd never play. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild.

Tony two bags. Hopefully he likes golf, even though he's probably just going to shed. The best thing that came out of it, and this will be the last thing, the best thing that came out of the entire Rendon Angel saga is the memes. The memes have always just been like impeccable. I know. I want a man that doesn't play games. Yeah, yeah. That's a great one.

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