Dodgers Territory - Evan Phillips Joins, Did Dodgers Need Biggio? Will the Real Walker Buehler Please Stand Up!

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

LA closer Evan Phillips dishes on the growth of Alex Vesia, the origin of his nickname "Honeybun", and more of his favorite stories from his career in the bullpen.DT hosts Alanna Rizzo and Clint Pasillas also dive into the addition of utilityman Cavan Biggio. What's his best role for the Dodgers and could the addition light a fire under some struggling players on the active roster? Plus, we meet Amy Farrah Fowler, an adorable pup looking for a furever home (guidrysguardian.org for more info on adopting or helping out). Finally, Clint shares his thoughts on Walker Buehler after his first seven post-surgery starts.DT streams Mondays & Thursdays LIVE at 3p ET/12p PT all season long on the DT YouTube channel!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up? All this is Alana Rizzo. This is Clint Fisius. Dodgers Territory is here on this Thursday afternoon. Don't forget to give us a five-star rating. like, subscribe, tube in, as Clint likes to say on Apple, Sodify, YouTube, wherever you're listening, wherever you're watching. We appreciate it.

Clint, how are you? It's an interesting week so far, but your biggest takeaway from Monday through Wednesday of your Los Angeles daughters. Awesome Monday. Nice little off day there. Tuesday, they should have saved some runs for Wednesday, but going for the series win tonight with the always exciting bullpen game Michael Grove getting the start. So we'll see how that one turns out going for a series win.

That's what you want against the defending world series champions. But yeah, we got a lot to dive into in this one. Yeah, you mentioned a bullpen game. Evan Phillips, the Dodgers closer, Dodgers reliever joining us here on Dodger territory coming up here in just a moment. But before we get to Evan, let's take a look at the big ticket. Clint, the biggest thing over the last couple of days was that. the news that the Toronto Blue Jays have said goodbye to Kevin Bezio,

son of Hall of Famer, and have now let him go to the Los Angeles Dodgers. The Dodgers picking him up and there's two schools of thought here, my friend. One is we already have a lot of guys like Kevin Beggio. Another school of thought is, well, maybe the Dodgers see something in him that the Toronto Blue Jays didn't. I mean, they do have a history of kind of allowing guys to be themselves. and kind of reinventing themselves. Yeah, this is one of those guys where it's not necessarily a needle mover.

It's not the most exciting move in the world, but it does feel a need for this team. They needed some help at third base with Max Muncie gone. I call this the Muncie Band-Aid for now. It gives them the opportunity to kind of get into the handedness matchup with Kike. He had been starting against everybody. over the last few weeks, maybe not earning it right now. So Begio, they bring him in.

He's had some success at the big league level. This Dodgers organization has had some success, as you alluded to, at kind of, say, fixing some guys or helping some guys figure out some things with their swings, get into better positioning or mindset and all that kind of stuff. So I can't say, like, I'm thrilled about the move, but when we're talking about June, it's a fine move. It helps the team kind of figure some things out in the interim. How do you feel about Kevin Vigio, Los Angeles Dodger? I think that he was a role player in Toronto, never really got any sort of traction there.

I mean, he was blocked at a lot of positions with a lot of guys. He's a bench guy. He's a, you know, he's a serviceable dude. But right now, Clint, I think we have a lot of those same guys, you know, serviceable guys that can come off the bench, not playing every single day, the bottom of the order. as we have talked about, Ednauseum is not producing. If you look at the numbers, though, and we're going to get into the fact that Dave Roberts has given Gavin Lux's vote of confidence,

and to Gavin's defense has been playing a lot better recently. When you look at the numbers, though, between Kavin and Gavin, they're very similar players, if you will. Kavan doesn't get to play a ton, but only two home runs on the year. You can see the RBIs, the stakes that these guys have driven in. OPS, basically the same, 615 for Bigio, 561 for Gavin Lux. So, you know, I'm just wondering where does this fit in? I mean, again, is this something that they see in him that they think they can tweak something and make him more of an offensive force? Is this forcing the issue with perhaps Kike not going to get as much playing time? Not that he gets a lot anyway, but even less than what he's already getting. Is this a band date until Max Muncie comes back? We had Max Muncie on foul territory the other day. And, you know, he's, they're still being very cautious, obviously, with the oblique issue. So it's not a massive move. It's not an oh, wow move. but it doesn't hurt the team.

I'm just not certain how it helps the team. Lux, as you said, he is hitting better at the moment. He's, as Dave might say, he's on the come right now. He's hitting 273 over his last 16 games, 14 starts, 294 before last night's over. I look at this Bigio thing. I agree. There are a lot of the same type of dudes, very light hit, maybe kind of glove first guys. When you got Kike, you got CT3, even throw away.

Miguel Rojas in there and then what we've seen with Lux. But maybe I kind of had the argument that maybe, just maybe this is something that could sort of light a little bit of a fire under the asses of a Chris Taylor of a Kika Hernandez is like, hey, you know, wake them up. Like if somebody comes to my job to do the same type of thing, I'm going to be a little concerned. I'm going to probably try to put in a little extra work. Not to say they're not putting in the work. It's been a lot of just, I don't know about bad luck. It just has not, the ball has not fallen. their way this year. But I wonder if there was a hint of that with Kevin Bezio coming to the Dodgers. I don't know. I just don't feel like these guys are guys that get complacent. I don't feel like

the Chris Taylor's and the Kike Hernandez's of the world are guys that are like, oh, I'm good. I don't need to worry about it. I know that I'm safe. Nobody in this game is safe. If our pull holes can get DFAed, so can Kike Hernandez. And I just don't think that that's the issue. I just think they're both having horribly down years. And both of these guys have been unbelievable for this Dodgers organization in clutch key postseason moments. I just think they're both down and it's magnified because everybody in the bottom of the order is down right now. So again, 271 on base.

It's a 218 average for Gavin Lux. But you know what? We'll see. It's June 13th. We don't really need to start worrying about the trade deadline. The Dodgers are obviously going to the postseason. Is this a long-term fix? Probably not.

Maybe it is just a band-aid. Maybe it's a situation, too, whether it's either day-roarer. or the front office. I'm not certain or a combination of the two playing that matchup game all the time and getting burned. It's not a situation like where the Atlanta Braves with Brian Snicker and I've referenced this a million times. You know exactly who's playing every single day and in there always for the most part, barring injury. They're always in the lineup in the same exact order. It's never about handedness or who's on the hill. We don't we I say it like I play. The Dodgers don't do that. And I think sometimes that hurts them playing matchy matchy all the time. Just let guys go out and face either-handedness of the pitcher. Yeah, but I'll say at the same time, though, you can't take away the fact that they've been this successful for a reason over the last decade. It is playing those matchups. It is kind of going to the handiness. You know, we saw in 2018 when Cody Bellinger before he decided to turn into an MVP, he was kind of struggling.

He got in that platoon role. Jock Peterson, a platooned lifer when he was with this team, Kike, as well. They love playing the matchups. I would love to see some more old school baseball where we have the same guy, one through nine or one through eight. I don't think that's a reality in the game anymore, but he's given some more high-quality options. And one thing I like about it before we move on,

one thing I do like about this Bigio thing is it gives Miguel Vargas the opportunity to keep playing at AAA because he was getting zero time at the big league level. Fans were clamoring to see more of this guy who was arguably one of their better hitters coming off the bench, but he only got into, I had the notes somewhere. I think it was, he had 23 played appearances

over nearly four weeks with the team. So that's just not fair to the growth of Miguel Vargas. BGio provides him a left-handed bat at third base while once he's on the IL. This isn't that complicated. Thank you, Michael Sargent. I'm glad that you're the smart one of all of us. Rod, getting Vigio tells Lux now or never.

Yeah, I don't know about that either. I mean, he has a high round draft pick, Gavin Lux's. I don't think they're ready to walk away from him. Before we get to Evan Phillips, who's coming on the show momentarily, we always appreciate when players come on, Dodgers territory with Clinton and I. It reminds me you were talking about Matchy Matchy and Jock Peterson, like forever a platoon guy. When we were in Colorado several years ago, Dodgers were at the Rockies. I remember one of the pool reporters, one of the beat writers went up to Jock,

and he could not stand being told he couldn't hit left-handed pitching. And he got so pissed. I'll never forget it. exactly where he was in the Rockies locker, the visiting clubhouse at Coors Field. And he was so irritated. He's like, oh, really? You don't think I can hit left-handed pitching? And I remember having a conversation with Jock after that about, listen, I'm going to teach you a little bit about media training. That's exactly what they want you to do. They want you to get pissed off. They need something. And this wasn't a regular reporter for the Rock,

or for the Dodgers. But I'll never forget that he was hot. He was so pissed. He was like, oh, really? And sometimes, you know, guys get that narrative. And I don't know that it's necessarily true. Let's see what Evan Phillips, Clint thinks about this team and this bullpen that he's a part of. Obviously, Evan Phillips is a guy that doesn't talk a lot, but he says a lot with the way that he pitches. Evan, hi. It is awesome to see you. Thank you for being on Dodger territory with myself and Clint Paseas. What has been the biggest takeaway, kind of an overview takeaway of what this Dodgers team? team has accomplished so far. Welcome to the show, my friend. Thank you so much for having me. You know, this season has already been off to a really special start. And I just think,

you know, some of the extra media attention that the team is getting, you know, leads to the extra eyeballs across the league. So it's been a lot of fun to watch, you know, especially our lineup, you know, over the past few days, really put together a lot of great up ads, put together a lot of great games. And I think it just gives us a taste of what's to come and hopefully we can continue to build on that and, you know, really put ourselves in a good position to make a this year. Hello, hello, I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of the podcast Smart Talks with IBM. I recently sat down with IBM's chairman and CEO, Arvin Krishna. And I asked him, how can companies use AI to its fullest potential to create smarter business? My one advice to that, pick areas you can scale. Don't pick

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weapon. How special has it been to see the real AV, as Jerry Harrison Jr. might call him, seeing him become one of those guys that can kind of fill the role that you were doing before you became the, official, unofficial closer of being that fireman. What do you think of Vesia so far this year? Yeah, I think the growth that Vest has done for himself over the past year or so has just been absolutely incredible.

And he and I, we've constantly talked about, you know, what it takes and what it's going to require from each of us to, you know, have success at this level. And I think he's had, you know, tastes of it here and there across the past couple of years. But to see him take that extra leap this year has been, you know, really tremendous for him, but also for our bullpen. I think it really lines us up to have success. You know, throughout the late parts of the game with, you know, him, Blake Trinen, Daniel Hudson, and myself, you know,

along with the other guys that have mixed in so far. And, you know, it's really a special unit down there. We really push each other well. And specifically to Alex, it's just been, you know, a tremendous jump for him this year. It's been a lot of fun to watch. Evan, sometimes I think that closers, catchers, and hockey goalies have to have a little bit of a screw loose.

to be able to want to, you know, be behind the plate with those fastballs coming at them, to want to be in the ninth inning, to be in a, you know, in a hockey net. It takes something special in a person to get the final three outs of a ball game. What is it about the ninth inning in particular that fires you up and allows you to have the success that you've had? You know, it's really interesting. I think maybe my screw got knocked all the way out, you know, throughout my early parts in professional baseball, you know, I didn't have a lot of.

of success, you know, early in my career. And I think that kind of taught me, you know, how to withstand, you know, struggles. So I think, you know, at this point in my career, you know, anything that could happen to me out there on the mound, it's, it's nothing compared to what I've dealt with in the past. So I think that's very, you're, very freeing for me. And, you know, coming to the Dodgers, coming to an organization that, you know, has, you know, aspirations to win the World Series. You know, putting the team at the forefront for me, I think has really, really helped. And, you know, locking down those last three outs. It winning the game gives me the extra edge, I think, late in the game to get the job done.

I need to ask you then, what's been the biggest kick in the teeth? What's been the hardest thing you've had to go through that knocked that screw all the way out to allow you to just be like, you know what? I can handle this moment. You know, I think early in my career, I was just running in circles trying to figure out what I needed to do to find success. And part of it was maybe I wasn't quite ready and I didn't have the tools figured out. you know, for success at the major league level.

But I certainly came into work every single day and tried, you know, everything I could to make it happen. And I think the, you know, just the constant, you know, coming back to work and coming back to the field every single day and trying to get better, that really, really helped, you know, push me through that process. And then, you know, landing with the Dodgers and, you know, having a short stint with Tampa, kind of switching the narrative to helping the organization to win baseball games for me.

I think really, really helps those last little bits of development that I was missing. and then, you know, we hear with the Dodgers, we just continued to chip away, you know, piece by piece. And, you know, whether it's adding a pitch or, you know, reinstilling the confidence that I had, you know, been missing, you know, from all that, you know, the struggles I had early in my career. But, yeah, just, you know, one bit at a time. And I think we've really started to build into a product that I, you truly believe is the best version of myself. So this one, a little maybe out of left field. I don't know where you ended up, uh, this comes from our producer. I don't know where are you tripped on the grass, but he wants me to ask.

He wants to ask, how do you explain tripping on grass and kind of that whole frustrating, you know, stretch of time there having to miss with the hamstring injury? And how is the leg doing now? Yeah, well, let's clear it up first. I didn't trip over anything, all right. It was, you know, it's definitely a freak accident type thing. My cleat dug in the ground, you know, when I was, you know, pushing off to make my throat, my cleat simply just stuck in the grass instead of, you know, my leg normally rose.

and turning over with the rest of my body, my lower half just, you know, stuck. So definitely a freak thing where my hamstring just tugged a little bit and it was something we were being really cautious with. We didn't want it to turn into anything, you know, more severe. So, you know, taking four weeks off, you know, for something like that was extremely frustrating. You know, you don't want to miss any time at all.

And being away from the team, you know, was really difficult. But thankfully, you know, managed the aisle stint fine and it went out on a rehab stint and got fully healthy. So definitely back in a great spot now. And now it's just about putting the pieces back together on the mound and trying to get back in a good rhythm. Evan, sometimes us reporters and broadcasters act like we're the experts all the time. Like we know everything that's happening with the team as if we're a part of it. What is your take on the Kevin Begio signing? Obviously, he's already played in a game for you guys. Some people are saying he's very much, very similar to a lot

of guys that we already have on our squad. But some guys are thinking, hey, you know what? The Dodgers are really good about finding guys and turning them into gems. What does Kevin give to this club? You know, I think he's just another guy that fits our mold really well. I think you explained perfectly that we have a bunch of guys that kind of fall into that category where he can play multiple positions on defense. He's a left-handed bat, you know, for our infield kind of replacing, you know, what Max Muncie had held for us in our lineup. So, you know, plus I think we have an opportunity for him to give him some runway and see what we can build with him. He is a good defender in multiple positions.

I think that plays a huge role defensively for us, and that'll always have a place on our team. So I think we're excited to give him a chance. And it's probably pretty easy for him to transition to Dodger Blue from Toronto, Blue J Blue. So hopefully there's no real dramatic changes for him there. And obviously we were tracking that flight as Kevin made his way to L.A. Transitioning a little bit here.

We wanted to get to know Evan Phillips a little bit more. This photo made its rounds on the Twitter, the X, recently. All of the bobbleheads in Evans' locker. So this is kind of explained that gram. How many bobbleheads in there? Is it all from one season? How much stuff do you stuff in that locker over the course of a season? Well, I feel like we do bobbleheads every other day, it feels like.

So it's already getting pretty crowded up there. You know, so we get every time there's a bobbleheads, head night at the stadium where they always put one in our locker for us to take home or whatever, but usually they just either end up in storage or in a box into my parents' house. So I decided I'm actually going to do something with these things this year. And I think it looks pretty cool to display the little bubble heads up there. You know, it's not like they're, you know, a big attention grabber, but it's up there with a couple of pictures of my family. And I have a little stuffed bear from my son's first birthday. So little things like that where I can just look up and,

you know, remember that it's bigger than. one game or bigger than, you know, one outing, something to, uh, you know, take my mind back to, you know, what really matters and my family, my teammates, you know, friends, things like that. So I think it's a, you know, cool little nod to my teammates and, you know, hopefully I'll get one of my own up there. That'd be nice. Yeah. Yoshinovo Yamamoto, his bubbleheads tonight, Evan. So that'll be the next one that you can add to the collection. His start got fished a couple of days. I got to slide all the bobbleheads back just so I can put one, you know, up in front now. Is it come with the javelin? That's what I want to know. I wanted to come

with the javelin for the load up. His start got pushed back because he let he emptied the tank in New York, which was, I mean, I'd tell you what, if people had a question, Evan, as to whether or not Yoshi could pitch in a big game. I think the question was answered. What is he meant to this rotation? And what have you enjoyed about watching him go about his business and just him as a person? Yeah, Yoshinova is a great guy. Watching him go about his craft every single day is definitely me, it's very intense. I think he's he follows a routine, you know, to a T every single day. And I think that explains a lot of, you know, his success early in, you know, his major league career. You can tell it's something he's been doing for, you know, many years and he's, he sticks to it better than

anybody I've ever seen. So, you know, not only the stuff he's doing inside, but playing long toss and the stuff he does to take care of his arm. And then he's, he's not a big guy. So to watch, you know, 97, 98 come out of his frame is, it's really impressive. And it's, it's, It's been a lot of fun to watch them. And, you know, definitely really exciting start in New York City. We're just hoping he can get back on the mountain soon for us and you get back to business. All right. So I got one here for you.

This, I think you've been around this Dodgers bullpen long enough to have seen the era where back in the day in the old shed. I think maybe the shed was a little bit before you. But they used to have a kind of relievers. Y'all are weird. You all got a lot of downtime in the box as well. But they used to have a wall. It was Nostra dumbass where they would write down the dumbest things or the weirdest things your teammates have said in the bullpen.

Again, I don't know if that's still a thing there, but if it is or even if it's not, what's the weirdest thing in your time, particularly with the Dodgers, the weirdest or dumbest or most like, what did this guy just say moment you've had with a teammate? Man, well, so that, that wall of fame you can call it that comes from our former bullpen catcher stephen shallotty and uh you know on the other side of that wall is where we play our game

where we call home runs so there's two sides of the game and uh typically the home run calls are much more filled in than you know people saying some dumb stuff um the best one i can remember is i'm not i'm not afraid to throw my guy under the bus i love Tommy canley and we were in Chicago playing the cubs and so in fairness the bullpens are you know back in the outfield uh you don't have a clear view of the game so you can't really see what's going on at front of you. And we have Clayton Kirshall pitching. So this was, you know, a couple of years ago. And Tommy was down there in the bullpen with us and we're watching the game.

You know, Clayton's out there doing his thing. And Tommy makes a comment to the group and he says, man, we are just not seeing this guy's curveball very well. And I'm like, Tommy, that's Clayton. Like, he's on our team. Like, that's a good thing. And so he was thinking that, you know, he was a Cubs pitcher dominating us for some reason. And so that definitely made the wall of shame.

And that's probably my favorite one I can remember. Oh, man, Tommy Canley was on a foul territory yesterday. So I wish I would have known. I wish I would have known that yesterday. Yeah. So it's an interesting, you guys are weird. Yeah, relievers are definitely weird. I agree with Clint on that.

What is the like, what do you do for fun? What do you do to get away from the game of baseball? What do you do on the road when you don't have to deal with the kids getting up at 6,8? or you know all the honey-do list what do you do yes you know so here at home um you diving into my family has definitely been you know a lot of fun my son's just just over a year old so you coming home and being able to spend time with he and my wife is that's always the best thing for me to do when we're here at home getting out on the road you know it's fun to explore you know new cities and you know I'm a coffee guy so I like to go out and find a coffee shop or you know

little things like that just to get out of the hotel for a little bit but uh you know, sleeping in, it's really nice when I'm on the road. I'm sure my wife doesn't want to hear that. But yeah, you know, keeping it simple. I like to sneak out for a round of golf here and there, but that's typically more of an off-season thing. But yeah, you know, pretty simple guy. Just, you know, coffee. Yeah, I can't lie. It's it. You had mentioned that Steve Shalati started that stuff in there. Is Viper not a bullpen catcher anymore? No, Viper, he retired. He's a, he's back home. with his family and AZ. Yep, yeah, he's doing good. I tell you what, man. That guy was he was such a

good human being. For those of you that don't know what a bullpen catcher does. I mean, they do so much for these bullpen guys and, you know, just same physical going through the physical rigmarole of everything that he has to do and just such a great person. So anyway, if you talk to him, tell Viper, I said hello. All right. Have you tried the javelin? Don Kim wants to know if you've tried throwing that. Where does this come from, this javelin story? I'm not, I'm not familiar with this of it. Yeah. Yeah. So Yamamoto has these like, they look like little nerf javelins. And he flings them super high in the air. And I think it's the idea is to like create length and kind of simulate long toss without really having to throw a long toss. And no, I have not tried it yet.

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Yes or no? I'm buying it. You know, so Honeybun is the root of the nickname, and that's a college nickname. To this day, some of my best friends from college, it's always Honeybun. And, you know, that story is my freshman year, you know, first couple weeks on campus and we have a, you know, fall game going on and I'm charting doing a velocity chart and my buddy sitting beside me is doing the game chart he's like you know junior Friday night starting pitcher a big deal and I obviously sit down with some snacks and one of them I pull out and he's like a got like a Dr. Pepper and a honey bun and so he just you know notices that I have the honey bun he's like I'm going to start calling you honey bun I said man that's stupid nobody's going to call me honeybun and sure enough like I said to

this day, some of my best friends from college. You still call me Honeybun or Bun. And again, to the Dodgers, you know, all the guys were trying to figure out if I have a nickname. They thought Evan was just too bland. So they were trying to call me something different, right? And so I tell them the Honey Bunn story and it just takes off. All of a sudden, there's T-shirts. On your chair, guaranteed the next day. It's amazing how quickly it goes from someone's mouth to a chair, a t-shirt on chair. What's the best nickname you've heard in this? the game you cannot say your own. And that's a good question.

You know, I have to give this guy some props. I'm a really big fan of Cal Raleigh's nickname, the catcher in Seattle, Big Dumper. I mean, that's just a fantastic nickname. It's a fantastic nickname. Kudos to whoever created that one because that's legendary. Can you imagine, can you imagine doing players weekend like they used to him putting the nicknames on the back and just having big dumper? I mean, that's that's 10 times better than Honeybun.

No doubt. Oh, chicken strip. Cori's brother. I loved players we did. I'm so bummed that they took that away. Like, let's do that again. That was that was a boy. Corey's brother for Kyle. That was the best. Absolutely travesty. They took that away. Last one. And then we'll let you get out of here. We obviously know you have a game tonight. But last couple of years, man, you're somebody who's been incredibly deserving. You've earned an All-Star birth been snubbed, man. What's it going to take to get you there? What do you want to see fans doing out there? Maybe some riots, a little bit. or protesting, maybe a small, polite sign, like, please let Evan Phillips the ultimate game. What do you want to see? How do we make it happen? Oh, man, it would be really special to get there. You know, it's not my decision. We have a lot of deserving players, not only on our team, but across the league as well. So, you know, I genuinely believe the guys that have been there, you know, they all deserved it. So it's, you know, it's not too bad to have an all-star break off. And each year my wife and I, we've made the trip special and he had gone down and enjoyed some

of the SoCal beaches and things like that. So missing it wasn't all that bad, but it would certainly be a huge privilege and honored to be selected. So yeah, maybe just say it, please, you know, maybe like the nice little polite sign. I'm sure my wife would be on board for that one. She'll probably, you know, she'll lead the crafts group to make those signs. No, you deserve it, Evan. I hope we can have you back on this show. You're phenomenal to get to know. You're so thoughtful with your time, with your answers, you're kicking ass. Thanks for being with us on Dodgers territory. Best of luck the rest of the way. And good luck tonight. I really appreciate it, guys. Thank you so much for having me. All right, Evan Phillips,

Closer of the Los Angeles Star. What a blast. What a good guy. I mean, this is a guy again, Honeybun. That's, I'm never going to call him Evan again. From here on out, it's Evan Honeybun Phillips. Time now, Clint, for last licks. Let me introduce you out there watching and listening to us to Amy Farrah Fowler. Amy Farrah Fowler is part of the Big Bang Theory. litter. There are seven little puppies and she's adorable just as her siblings are. There are five girls. There are two boys. Leonard and Sheldon are the boys. Amy Farrah Fowler is one of the girls. And she's about four weeks old. She'll be available for adoption mid-July if you could help out with her foster supplies and her vet costs. Gidreysgarden.org if you're interested in learning more about

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Batters are feasting on it, hitting 429, slugging 886, and that includes Corey Seeger's home run last night in the ball game. We're getting close. You know, he mentioned his fastball doesn't have the the FU behind it. So I think this is an amazing. This is the best tweet you've ever had. A middle, middle fastball is certainly lacking an FU plus, which I think is a baseball reference new stat or whatever. But I need to see a little bit more out of Walker. I need to see a lot of less tinkering, less thinking, just going out there, letting either Barnsey or will put the signs down, throw the ball to the spot.

Don't worry about trying to hit 97, 98 right now. Just get some consistency with location, with command. get the confidence back. Because right now, he is not one of the five best starters in that starting rotation when Bobby Miller comes back. When Clayton Kershaw comes back, presuming, you know, Kersh is vintage or whatever. But it's a struggle, and it's tough to see Butane struggling the way he is. And I know he is absolutely livid with where he's at.

But without that fastball, he's a shell of a man. You know, that's his go-to weapon. and he's all out of ammunition right now. Well, he used to be able to throw it with conviction and it used to be a good out pitch for him. By Blake Williams had this tweet. You're talking about that four seamer Clint. Bueller threw five fastball of results

where a 100% hard hit rate, a 33% barrel rate, a 400 batting average, a single home run, a 103 mile per hour ground out and one strikeout. So yeah, that is his bread and butter. So if that's not working, he's going to the off-speed stuff,

the breaking ball stuff. That's not who Bueller is. He's not a, you know, a finesse guy he's a shove it right down your throat guy and hopefully um hopefully we'll he'll figure it out you know uh the good thing is there's time the the better thing is there's reinforcements coming um and i really like the way that obviously yelamoto's pitching glasnow stone is emerging um and there you have it yeah i mean they have time they have time to figure it out right now uh you have a nice lead in the national league west you know you're making the playoffs this is a los

Dodgers, they are always going to make the playoffs. We can afford them sometimes as fans, as reporters, as whoever else, afford them some opportunity to kind of figure some things out, test drive of Kevin Vizio, see what you still have in Walker Buell and all that. But you still need to, you need to see a lot more out of Walker over the next few weeks to know if he's going to be one of your guys or maybe, maybe he's somebody that's in trade conversations. I don't know, but there might not be a lot of room once more.

these guys start coming back and getting healthy. Oh my God, I can't imagine Walker Bueller right now, not in a Dodger uniform. What do you got coming on tonight on all Dodgers? It's Thursday. What are you talking about? Thursday, that's right.

We are talking about the Dodgers. That's crazy, right? A little bit more Bueller thoughts in there, kind of some overall starting pitching thoughts, trade deadline thoughts, and all the comments. If you guys were in here, we couldn't get to your comments.

Alana and I would just love talking to each other, but we couldn't get to your comments. Bring him to all Dodgers. with Clint Paseas tonight. Pre-game 530 show with myself and producer Kevin. And we'll have a good time. Yeah, there is a fan question we want to get in as we say goodbye to you guys here on Dodger territory. Daniel Milato says, when are we getting Shohei on the program? I am really working on my Japanese, Daniel.

So we're going to try. We're going to try to get him, Yamamoto, all the things, all the folks on here. We appreciate it. You guys, give us a five-star rating. If you like what we do, like us, subscribe to our YouTube. new YouTube page. Please rate us Dodgers Territory podcast on Apple, Spotify,

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