Dodgers Territory - Orel Hershiser Shares Dodgers Thoughts, Talks Roki Growth, Salary Cap

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

Dodger legend Orel Hershiser joins Alanna Rizzo, Katie Woo, and Clint Pasillas to catch up on all things Los Angeles Dodgers!  The Bulldog shares his assessment of the team up to this point. He t...alks about the growth of Roki Sasaki in his second year in the big leagues and the things he's seeing from the young starter. Orel also gives us his perspective of collective bargaining agreement discussions and the proposed salary cap, something that caused the last lockout in MLB history. Pull up a chair and enjoy this catch up with The Bulldog! 🌶️ Subscribe to the YouTube channel!https://www.youtube.com/@DodgersTerritory  Follow our social media channels for more content!https://x.com/LADTerritory  https://www.instagram.com/ladterritory/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61578546105253  Check out DT merch at https://dodgersterritoryshop.com Support Guidry's Guardian at https://guidrysguardian.org Find Clint on YouTube at https://youtube.com/@alldodgers Follow Katie's work at The Athletic https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/author/katie-woo/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:00 And welcome to a brand new edition of Dodgers. territory. I'm Alana Rizzo. That is Katie Wu and Clint Paseas. We are happy that you are here. Appreciate you guys being with us. Don't forget to rate us five stars, like and subscribe and all of the things. But we're going to skip the pleasantries today because we have a very special guest joining us. We want to get to him immediately. My friend and yours, Oral Hersheiser, you know him best as the Bulldog. Of course, World Series champion, World Series MVP, all the things, so many different things to put on his mantle. And of course, of course, of of course, one of the best broadcasters in one of the best booths in all of Major League Baseball alongside Joe Davis.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Oral, good to be with you. Thank you so much as we are basically a third of the way through the season. What grade would you give your Dodgers to this point? Wow. So the bar is so high. I can't give them an A because, you know, that would be probably undefeated for the bar they raised for themselves with this roster and talent and everything they got going. but they're definitely at a B plus. And I'd say they're at a B plus because it's a little streaky.
Starting point is 00:03:21 It's a little streaky for the offense. You know, there's the big highs of 10 games or so of over 10 runs, but then you have the games where they don't score three. And so they would tell you that they're a little bit more streaky. But they're beating the teams they should beat, and they're beating some of the high caliber teams too. You know, got a high caliber player there, both sides of the ball with Shohei, Otani. We talk a lot about show Hey Otani and also at the same times not enough about what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:03:52 We know what he could do with the bat. We've seen that a lot over the first two years of him in Dodger Blue, but now he is a full-time two-way player in his third season in Dodge Blue. And it's impressive. We're talking about right now on ERA, as of the time we're recording, an ERA under one, even when he doesn't have his best command, the stuff is still just so dangerous, so dominant. Have you ever seen anything like a show Hey, Otani, even down to the Little League where you guys were going and playing shortstop and, you know, catching and all that stuff at the same time? Like the amount of talent that this dude has, just kind of talk about seeing the unicorn day in and day out. Well, you, you know, you have a million people at the Little League level that can do this. Then as you go up the pyramid of sports and you get near the peak, of course, it's all.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's only one. There's him. But where do they start to fall off? They really start to fall off around college because high school coaches let their best athletes do both. They're in the game, no matter what, with their bat, with their arm, on the mound, at shortstop. At college, you see a few.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And there's a few more now that Show Hay is doing what he's doing, and the big leagues are grasping and really hugging the two-way player because it expands their roster. and I think that one of a kind. He's one of a kind. And it's not only one of a generation. It might be one of a lifetime for people. And it could be once
Starting point is 00:05:24 every hundred years we see somebody. And I don't mean somebody's going to do it both ways, but somebody is going to do it at an elite level. And elite is not an easy word to say, but you can say elite for him on both sides of the ball and you're not stretching it. Orl, I've been accused on this podcast of being a Roki Sasaki Apologist.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And I think it's important to remember that he is, although he comes rightfully with so much hype and fanfare, still a pitching prospect. And as we saw him go through May took a lot of steps forward, what have you seen from Roki over the last few starts that has you encouraged? Well, I think he's gone through the natural adjustments of somebody coming from the Far East and the change of the ball and the number of games and how often you're supposed to pitch, length of the spring training, food, culture, travel, all the different things. But the microscope was on him, and he wasn't really allowed to go through those without being judged.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And then the performance of last year and then, you know, putting it together and then contributing in a big way in the playoffs in the World Series, I thought it was a great transformation and a great step forward. But then he comes back into spring training. It was to be a star of the doctor and he starts to fall in again. And the main reason is probably because he needs to throw a lot more pitches and a lot more consistently. And he had not built the consistency yet. He had the stuff to be a short reliever. He had the stuff to go out there for an inning or two.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But to go around the order a second time to let the opposing team start to see what you're landing and what you're not landing. He went through a serious learning curve and went through a lot of defeat. And with that, I think it's softening. his personality, it's softened his ability to say, you know what, I do need to change. And that happens with all young players. With certain players, we see them go up and down from the minors. They get exposed. They learn what they need to work on. They go back down to the AAA. They get exposed again. They get called up, and they have to work on even more. We're not seeing that with him. He's having to develop at the big league level. I think one thing, it's because they really
Starting point is 00:07:37 think it's going to pop at any time because of the great ability. The other reason I think is because he's very popular on the team and guys around him want to succeed. And we have the ability of a rotation to kind of carry somebody. Kind of like when Sandy Kofax came to the big leagues and it was a draft pick that got $100,000 or more. And he had to stay in the big leagues for the Dodgers to keep him because that was the rule. Well, it's kind of the same thing around Sasaki. It's like the potential is there. We've got him. We got time to diversions. him and we've got the talent around him that it's not going to hurt our playoff chances that he can do it. And what have I seen on him physically or mentally or emotionally? I've seen mechanical changes.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I've seen consistency. I've seen the confidence grow. And at all is like executed and the results are when he's in the strike zone. We knew if he was going to be in the strike zone, he's going to be really good. And Connor McGinnis and Mark Pryor have kind of added the slider and up the usage of it. and he's gained confidence in that. And now he actually has a breaking ball to complement the split, to complement what used to be the fork, to complement the four-seem fastball up and the four-seem fastball up and the four-seem fastball and two-seem fastball down.
Starting point is 00:08:48 He's got another breaking ball that gives him a weapon that on certain days, when he's not landing the split, he can land the slider. August 30th, 1988, the sixth inning of a game against the Expos ended in the 10th inning of the September 28th start against the San Diego Padres. I remember very early in my tenure with you on the set for SportsNet, L.A. We were talking about the scoreless inning streak,
Starting point is 00:09:13 and it came up that you had 59. I was like, you did? That was you? You're like, really? You didn't know that. And I know that now. I know that now. It's so impressive. It's still the record in Major League Baseball for consecutive scoreless inning. So Bulldog, I want you to brag a little bit on what Christopher Sanchez of the Phillies is doing right now.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yeah, the interviews have started. I think he's at around 44 as of this taping. I think that with Christopher Sanchez, he's going through a great time in his life. He's doing something that he loves and he's doing it very well. The baseball probabilities of us ground ball pitchers, their balls are being hit at people. You know, you're not making mistakes up. And when you do, your outfielers are catching it for you. It's a team record, but it also gets attributed to an individual. And, you know, the worst part of my personality when I got to the big leagues was reacting to things and not responding to things. And so you have to be learned to be a good responder. And a response is kind of a thoughtful thing where the nerves and the pressure and the 50,000 people and this is for the playoffs or this is for my team or this is for whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:30 the world championship. And this could be the last pitch if I get this guy, Tony Phillips, out, and you start almost crying. And you think about little boy things. And they tell you to enjoy it. But I couldn't enjoy it. I had to go out there and focus and respond to the situation. So I hope he has a great response to the chasing of the record. For me, I'm so present tense. I am so present tense that to think of the past and how it might affect my future, it already he has. And so I am not going to wish ill will on somebody that has a chance to have a life-changing moment, a life-changing headline, and then see what it happens for him with that. I think the most important part of 88 in that string you talked about is that it continued into the playoffs and the
Starting point is 00:11:20 World Series and winning the MVP in the NLCS, winning the MVP in the World Series, being on the for the last pitch of the World Series, doing the Disney commercial, and having those memories with all my teammates. We're doing a lot of things as we continue on. Those trophies will get dust. They'll get rusty. But, you know, the relationships will last forever. So I want to respond to this, not react to it. Now, I can't. I can't. Excuse me. I have to broadcast today. I can't say that the same feelings are from my friends and family. I would have to say I am responding and thinking about it, and I am not going to put ill will onto somebody or root against him
Starting point is 00:12:10 that has a chance to have a life-changing moment. For the transparency of the audience, we are recording this before Christopher Sanchez's most recent start, which I think he's starting for the Phil's on Tuesday, So there's behind the scenes there, but Bulldog, you're talking about the past and how it could relate to the future, a future for everybody. I want to talk about the CBA negotiations, of course, in 94. Yeah, putting you on the spot here. And, of course, you know, don't upset the organization.
Starting point is 00:12:41 We don't want to cut off your paycheck. But. Yeah. I just signed a new deal, too, you know. We love that. How long are you here for? Yeah. That's an important one there.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Well, get back to me. How long we, how long we saw a new deal? got a bulldog in our life. Oh, we signed a three-year deal with another option. So we might be here until I'm ancient. No, I'm 67. So we're signed till 71. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Breaking news. Breaking news on Dodger territory. If you guys keep getting five stars, you know, we'll still be doing this four years from now. So he matched that thumbs up button for the bulldog there and having him around. And maybe he's going to get back into podcasting with Joe Davis. but that's a different story. But yeah, a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You guys do a lot of good work. It's a lot of work. Was it Krojuski? Did he get, did he get lazy on you guys? No, Rick Kriuski is the man. Dr. Kajuski,
Starting point is 00:13:35 his nickname for me is oral intelligence because he hands me a 3-5 card and I look smart. I love him. One of the best. I love Richard. As I call him, I don't know if it annoys him,
Starting point is 00:13:45 but I love calling him, Richard. All right, so CBA talks, 1994, of course, the season is cut short because there's talk of a salary cap. Now we're hearing salary cap back in the ethos, back in the lexicon here. You don't necessarily need to speak so much about this now, but as a former professional baseball player, what would a salary cap do to the players' side of it? Obviously, the owners want a reason to not spend money, but how bad could this be for baseball or for players?
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'll lead off that I'm proud to be an American. I believe in the free market system. Amen. So I think that a lot of what goes on is trying to protect the health of the sport. And I think ownership tries to protect the health of the sport. And I think players are always looking for freedom. And those two equations don't always. match up because there's the heart of the fans, the heart of the cities, the heart of, we developed a
Starting point is 00:14:58 player, we'd love to keep him, that we've invested in players, we'd love to keep them. And players are like, you know, as I grow and as I earn and as I get better, I want the freedom to have the highest bidder for me. And that does not exist because you have to earn that with free agency, but it does exist a little bit with arbitration. It does exist a little bit with minimum salaries. And then then there are other perks around that, of course, which are really off the chart as far as human comforts, whether it's a, you know, the Dodgers in their plane or the locker room, the way it's built, and other expenses that, you know, it's fantastic to play in the big leagues. So the CBA is a very tough, tough year. It's a sad year for, I think, everybody, from players to owners to fans. And hopefully
Starting point is 00:15:45 it's something that we can get to the pressure points early enough that baseball is not taken off the board. We usually see that both sides start from very far off tangents and then both sides work themselves to what is the middle where we have no idea where the middle is. And usually it is the players that are giving in because we can see how the needle has moved through the years. I think early on when the union was formed, it was looking like the players were, winning because they were gaining back something as far as freedom, as far as a, you know, retirement fund, as far as a portion of the national TV package. But the revenues now are so great and are so complicated. And the needle has moved so far into a king's ransom salaries and
Starting point is 00:16:34 perks for the players that it seems like the players are always giving something up. And that's okay. but I think the main thing for the players where their fight is going to be is protecting all the different generations of players, from even the minor leaguers to the early big leaguers, to the rookies, to the guys eligible for arbitration, to then when you qualify for free agency and then how much money you can make once you get into those equations. And so it's a very hard, complicated equation, but I think, you know, hopefully for me, as a broadcaster, as an ex-player, as an ex-union rep, as a as a rookie. that made it as a minor leaguer for four and a half years as playing in the Dominican Republic and Venezuela, Arizona Instructional League, going to all those spring trainings,
Starting point is 00:17:20 you know, put all that work in. It turned out to be a wonderful life. But this CBA is the kind of thing that, you know, it's a tough, tough time. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. I.R. Radio. Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts, including IHart Pride, Canada, your favorite hits and must have party bangers plus personalized and curated playlists like back in the day pride come together celebrate love take pride with you anytime anywhere just ask your smart speaker to play iHeart pride canada stream us on your phone or listen now at iHeartRadio.ca hey it's us the jonas brothers and guess what we have some big news what's the news news news we created our own podcast called hey jonas we invented a
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Starting point is 00:19:00 he is. Your body is not what you saw it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle. Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me
Starting point is 00:19:39 alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oral the other day at Chase Field, we were having a conversation pregame about Mr. Justin Robleski. And I think his approach to pitching is the perfect blend of that old school mentality and really
Starting point is 00:20:10 being open-minded to the analytics side of the game. What do you see from Robleski that reminds you, maybe even a little bit about yourself? Yeah. My fastball moved a lot more, but he is very much into fastball command. I did want to throw the ball inside and outside, but my primary motive was to make sure it moved first because I know late movement is the number one tool, because we know a knuckleball works. So he has decided that I am going to pound the zone and watch Clayton Kirshaw at the tail end of his career when Robleski was up and saw a guy that had less stuff than him but was having a much lower ERA than him, was having much more success than him. And he's like, so it's not about stuff. What is Clayton doing that is making him
Starting point is 00:20:57 succeed? And what it is, he controlled the count. He controlled the batters. He didn't back down when all of a sudden there was things melting down around him with men on base. Clayton continued to attack, and he attacked mainly with two pitches, his fastball and his slider. Of course, there was the curb ball from heaven, but the curveball from heaven, even his last three, four years, was not there. He used it more as an off-speed pitch. The other thing Clayton had to do is he had to make adjustments and start throwing to the arm side instead of the glove side, and he threw there more often. He even tried to develop a change-up. So Rebleski, what he has done is he's realized, and I think a lot of the pitchers need to realize this, there are so many different equations.
Starting point is 00:21:38 for success other than measuring your velocity and your spin rate. It really does come down to movement and execution. And if you can make the ball move at 70 miles an hour or you can locate at 100 miles an hour, the equation is right there in front of you. And so I love it when all of a sudden the light bulb goes on for somebody and they start to pitch. And pitching is about counts. It's about getting out. It's about getting quick outs.
Starting point is 00:22:06 It's about finding a swing and miss. when you need it and only you need it. I think one of my favorite quotes from our little conversation there in Arizona was the fact that you said, let me think at 67, I almost blanked on it. You don't get any reward for a swing and missed than when the count is 0-1. It doesn't strike the guy out. It just is a strike. So I would rather, in my day, if there's a man on second and no out,
Starting point is 00:22:31 I don't want the guy moved over to third, I might think about finding a way to get a strike out, not getting the ball put in play. The man on third, less than two outs, definitely maybe going to think about a strikeout. But if the scoreboard says 6-0, nothing, my lead, I am not going to risk a crooked number for the team to come back just to try and save my ERA. I'm going to trade an out for a run. And I think he's starting to understand that whole winning equation, not only about the batter, but the scoreboard, the situation where the wind's blowing, all the different things. Am I on artificial turf? Am I on grass?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Do I want the out to the left side, to the right side? there are so many parts of pitching that are about winning, not about spin rate and velocity. Man, I could listen to you talk about pitching forever. I learned so much from you. I learned so much from Pedro Martinez. It's just an encyclopedia of knowledge that it actually, not to say that you're dumbing it down, but you have a way of explaining things that's just really poetic. I want to talk about Dave Roberts' maturity.
Starting point is 00:23:25 We're talking a little bit about Rebleski's maturity and his development. Dave Roberts, Oral, you and I were there when he was introduced to the, the organization. I want to say it was back in 2016. And, you know, he has just taken this team to new heights, but he's also had to mature as a manager. What have you noticed about Doc's development? Wow. I think some of his development people are going to think, I think the description that made it look like he wasn't ready was the public description, was people that got lazy and just said, well, he's new, and this is where he came from, and this is what he's going to do, and this is how strong the ownership is,
Starting point is 00:24:11 and this is how strong the front office is. So Dave Roberts is just a puppet, and that pretty much at the beginning was the whole thing. And that got substantiated a little bit because they didn't go very far in the playoffs with an unbelievable roster. And so some of the maturity and some of the growth as a manager is reacting to negative things in the press. You have to talk to them three and four times a day. And then the fan reactions on talk radio and then how we're going to turn that around, making sure that that doesn't infiltrate your roster. And so I think Dave's maturity is really just the growth. It's not something like, oh, he was lacking.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I think the stress and the losing early on and the outside influences of the media and different people, I think it exposed great character. I think exposed amazing character. and I think it's always been there. And then as the stature grew and he showed he could handle it, all of a sudden the narrative changed. And the narrative has changed to who Dave Roberts really is. Now, people grow and change, and he has for sure. And it's in confidence in how he introduces the team in spring training
Starting point is 00:25:16 on how he sets goals, how he verbalizes the goals now. Like if we don't win a world championship, you know what? It's a lost season. It's not what we're out here for. So he's able to be confidently out there right at the very beginning of a season. right for the repeats and the trepeats and all of them. And who knows how long it's going to go on. But I've always told him in our text messages
Starting point is 00:25:38 and our face-to-face phone calls and whenever we talk that I would have loved to play for him. I would have ran through a wall for him like I did for Tom of the Soren. I would give up my body for him and just say, let's go win the game, who cares about tomorrow? Because he loves his players so much. He cares about their careers. He looks at everyone individually.
Starting point is 00:25:59 and, you know, he starts out with, you know, let's get comfortable being uncomfortable, but let's do it in your own style and your own way. And he has been an amazing friend and an amazing manager. Yeah, the people who like to complain of which they have quieted down, but the people like to complain, oh, Fire Dave Roberts. It's like, find a better person to manage all of the personalities, all of the people who drive nice cars, as Mookiee would say, that's a tough gig and he is only getting better with age like wine like red stitch wine
Starting point is 00:26:33 shameless plug there for there you for doc um another guy I want to talk about as I mentioned mookie there it's been a little bit of a struggle a little bit of a slog for him this season uh less about the mechanic side and all that kind of stuff just mentally can you think back to moments in your career where you have kind of felt yourself struggling and lost at sea what am I doing how do you get yourself mentally back on track because we saw him check out last year. And that kind of worked for him. After, you know, his wife says just, you know, be yourself. How do you, how did, how did the bulldog get himself mentally back on track? Well, I think it would be hard to, uh, to compare us because an everyday player has to get up
Starting point is 00:27:14 the next day and do it right away. We're a starting pitcher. You've got four days or so to kind of regroup and talk with the team psychologist, talk with your wife, you go out to dinner, relax, try and get away from the game, play with your kids, play golf. Uh, every, day player, you immediately have to get right back out there. So any therapy that I was doing when I was bad mentally, I had a lot of time where an everyday player, they have to speed up that clock in a hurry, whether it is how do I get to sleep tonight because I can't because I'm depressed and I'm grinding on everything. But I need my rest. It's going to spiral out of control and this is going to lead to injuries or whatever. So it's just really hard for an everyday player. And a lot of my
Starting point is 00:27:56 friends, everyday players, right? You know, like a Mike Sosha hit 400 every April. And then by the end of the year, he was hitting 240 because just the grind of being a catcher and then carrying a pitching staff. For Mookie, I think Mookie has matured in a big way of dealing with this. You know, he was the guy in Boston. He was the guy in L.A. And now he understands he has a role with this team. And he will be the guy on certain nights in certain series and massively an MVP of a nationally championship series or a World Series and that could happen. But there's a role now on this team and I think he's, I think he's embracing it. And I think it's helping him relax and deal with O-FERS a little bit better and deal with looking up there with a 200 batting average. I think he can just say,
Starting point is 00:28:41 you know what, every day, one of the things that he turned the corner last year was with, I'm going to come out every day, I'm not going to look at my numbers, I'm not going to look at how I feel, I'm going to do something today to help this team win. And to get out of yourself and into the team, I think that's a big step. Orly, I want to hit on maybe a bigger picture baseball question because I'm a baseball traditionalist and I believe in the value of stats that we've used to evaluate the game throughout its history.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Not a lot of people agree with me though. It's the Cardinal way. Thank you very much. Even though we're on the Dodger side now, right? You'll have to teach me the Dodger way. It's okay. I'm willing to make the adjustment. But when it comes to pitcher wins,
Starting point is 00:29:24 we as an industry just don't value them the same as we used to. Do you still see the value in a starting pitcher win? Well, I mean, you've heard me talk in this interview, and you can tell that I don't think about baseball. So the win to me is still very important. The ERA is still very important. I loved lately that Dave Roberts said something about, I don't mind a bad swing where it's a blue pit.
Starting point is 00:29:55 It's called a hit, and he gave himself a chance. It's not a swing and miss strikeout. Come back to the bench. I think that I still value who's up next and what my pitch selection should be because of who's up next. I still value there's a base open. I still value strike one. I still think the most important pitch is the 1-1 pitch because it can go to 1-2 or 2-1.
Starting point is 00:30:18 So, yes, the W, I think, is still important. going back to what we talked about with Robleski. You know, if the score is three to one, and there's two outs in the seventh, and there's a tying run at the plate, my number one job is to not let him hit a home run. My other number one job is to know who's in the bullpen and who's fresh and who could come in behind me and what's the next guy? Does he strike out a lot?
Starting point is 00:30:44 There's so much about pitch selection and where you put it. This is black in a ball, and I'm not missing over the middle. This is, I've got to knock this guy down a little bit, but I can risk that I'm going to hit him. And that's okay if he ends up standing at first base because this is going to give me a better chance to get him out away. And I want to get him out away because the wind's blowing out to the pull side. So I want him to have to hit the ball the opposite field. I mean, that stuff all comes into Ws. Now, I understand we can break it down where it's no big deal.
Starting point is 00:31:15 But I also understand in the moment, the history of the game and the stats and everything around, it. In that moment, that moment is so much more special than all the stats that tell me exactly what to do compared to what I see, what I feel, and what I have as far as the current data of what's going on. I don't want to let you go at all, but we have to wrap up our show. And I didn't want to wrap it up without talking about what you're doing. You continue to reinvent yourself. You and Dana have created such an amazing life for you guys and for your kids. kids and all of the things. And I don't know that I've seen you smile more than at the open house for Oral Hersheyzer Chevrolet and Sino. Tell me more about how this came about.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Was it Chino? Where were you? I can't remember. No, Chino, Chino, California. So I have a life triangle now, Alana. I have this triangle because we live in Pasadena and I drive out to Chino to the dealership, it's about 35 minutes. And I stay there from about nine in the morning until about two in the afternoon. And I take the hour drive from Chino into Dodger Stadium and I announce the game and I get home and I have this whole triangle. We also have that. I love for that membership. Yeah, we, you know, got into the car business by way of a commercial being asked to endorse Retolo Chevrolet and fell in love of it. The great thing about the car business is it has a bad reputation at times. And I can bring it a better reputation and say,
Starting point is 00:32:48 we're going to stand behind our word. We're going to have integrity. And what I love about it is I've never seen anybody buy a new car and not be smiling. And so it's like a football game. You come to the game, you're smiling. You'll leave the game. Hopefully you're smiling. Your team won. You leave a car dealership. You've won and you're driving your new car. And you're getting to go to grandma's house and you're getting to go travel to work and you're getting to go to the kids' soccer games. And you're doing all this and that new car smell and everybody's having fun. And so we can stand behind my word. I have a reputation of being an okay guy. And so hopefully people come in and know that they're going to get an honest shake.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And it's a lot of fun to, I start a tradition there on Sundays when I'm home. I go to one of the flower guys under the bridges and I buy all of their flowers. I buy 25 bouquets. And I take them to the dealership. And any female that comes in, I feel like it's the female that's going to make the decision. if the husband has a car or if the car is for the female. So I'm like, I am giving every lady that walks in a bouquet of flower. I'm putting them in a good mood.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And if they're in a good mood, we got a chance. And our car sale on Sunday went from like two to three cars to like seven or nine. Yeah, look at that. It's the liege. Now they got flowers. It's the charm of 55. It's the charm. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:09 We're coming up at Legends Attic. What do you got going on there before we say goodbye? Well, we always have appearances and things. I think we've got Chris Taylor coming out after he announced his retirement. We've always had, you know, the list goes on. But I just love Legends Attic because we make it memorable to buy memorabilia. And so the place is gorgeous. We're now in three locations.
Starting point is 00:34:34 We're going to open up another one. We're probably going to have a freestanding building of 10,000 feet soon in about another six months or so. And so I just love making it memorable. that people are coming for memorabilia, whether it's cards, jerseys, helmets, whatever it is, artwork. That's the fun part. That's the fun part of that, too. And it's all smiles. And people say to us, you know, we can't believe that you don't charge an admission. I'm like, it's not about the admission. It's about you coming in here and having a great time. And if you buy something, that's fantastic. Oral, I'm proud of you. Always have been an ambassador of the game, an ambassador of the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:35:09 and every single bit of this was earned. Nothing was given to you. Thank you so much for taking the time. We appreciate it. And we look forward to talking to you again soon, Bulldog. You're my original friend in this crew, but these other two are becoming my friends now. And, you know, Katie, she's got her ways of becoming friends.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's not even. Yeah, I'm gathering. You don't have a choice. This is one strong to have on the Dodger B. She was changing the whole B. I don't doubt that. I hope that's a good thing. We'll figure.
Starting point is 00:35:39 He's quite the addition to Dodgers territory as well. All right, give my love to Dana. Thanks for being with this Bulldog. We'll talk to you. All right, guys. You guys take care. All right. We're going to be back after a word about Fanduel.
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Starting point is 00:37:45 So if you're interested in learning more about sweet Caroline, reach out, giddreesguardian.org, and, of course, will always be generously accepting your donation. So we appreciate your help very much. Yeah. Hey, guys, how about the Bulldog there? He's a good time.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I'm telling you, I learned so much from listening to him. It was so one of my favorite parts about my job is being able to sit down with people who have had such an impression and, in fact, in the game and learn from them. I was lucky to have an awesome broadcasting crew in St. Louis, Chip Carey, Brad Thompson, Ricky Horton, and now to have Joe Davis and Orchersheiser to learn from them.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I mean, I could listen to Oral Talk about pitching all day. I was like, I can't wait to watch our own show later, so I can re-remember what he said. It's just so great. It's such a privilege to be able to learn from all of these people, all these different perspectives. I think that's why baseball is by far the best sport to cover. You never run out of stories or things to talk about.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Amen on that. Alana, I think the thing I love most about Bulldog is just how gracious he is with his time. He didn't need to do this for us today. He didn't need to spend time before going to work. But apparently, bro's a workaholic now all of a sudden. He's best car salesman. He's got a side hustle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I mean, it sounds like he's really into it. First time Oral Hershey's had a real job in his life there. But what us regular blue collar folks do. But that's really awesome. And now, you know, I know I can go get myself some flowers, or at least my lady, some flowers on Sunday. No, you have to buy a car. Like, you have to buy her a new car. Yeah, you don't get the flowers and then no car.
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Starting point is 00:39:55 But that is how I will be able to afford a car over there at Hersheiser Chevrolet in Chino, which is not very far for me. You might give you the Dodger territory discount. I mean, he does, he does know you. He's not, he's, it's going to be a good handshake. Look him in the eye. I do believe that our guy would hook you up. Yeah.
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