Dodgers Territory - Steve Phillips Joins! Dodgers Trade for Edman and Kopech, Reactions + What‘s Next?

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

The Dodgers finally started getting to work for this year's trade deadline, acquiring utility man Tommy Edman and reliever Michael Kopech in a three-team swap with the White Sox and Cardinals. DT hosts Alanna Rizzo and Clint Pasillas react to the deal. Plus, thoughts on what could or should be coming next for LA.MLB Network Radio insider and former GM Steve Phillips joins the show to talk trade deadline and share some insight on another rumored Dodgers trade target, Garrett Crochet. Also, are the Padres closing the gap on the Dodgers in the NL West?Dodgers Territory runs LIVE on Mondays & Thursdays at 3p ET/12p PT all season long on the DT YouTube channel! PLEASE SUBSCRIBE!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They'll make him better than he was in Chicago. I have no doubt about that. And Edmund, although he's been out all year, is a very capable guy. Good afternoon and welcome everybody back to Dodgers territory live on this Monday afternoon. The last Monday before the Major League Baseball trade deadline happens tomorrow night at 6 p.m. Eastern. We are your host. That is Clint Pesias.

I am Alana Rizzo. Do not forget to like us. Subscribe. make sure you rate us five stars on YouTube as well as everywhere that you get your podcast. We appreciate you being here. Clint, let's get right to it. Let's get to the big ticket. A lot to talk about, obviously. I was waiting in our pre-production meeting. I'm like, come on, are we going to make a move? And literally not even 20 minutes later, we found out it looks like Michael Kopeck and Tommy Edmund are coming over to the Los Angeles Dodgers. What do you make

of the proposed deal? Ken Rosenthal, of course, on Fair Territory and our foul territory fam, a three-trade team, a three-team trade, rather, in which the Cardinals would acquire Eric Fetty from the White Sox. The Dodgers would acquire Tommy Edmund, and White Sox would acquire prospects and is closed. Sources tell me and Katie Wu. But there's also a rumor or a proposed trade, I guess, that Michael Kopeck is coming to the Dodgers. Your take. Yeah, as far as we know, these deals are essentially done, you know, pending all of the logistics and the paperwork and the physicals and, you know, the pieces that go into it.

also Tommy fan going from the White Sox back home to the Cardinals. I'm not a massive fan. I'm not a massive fan. You know, but also Dodgers fan at my core. So we expect everything. We want everything. We want 19 All-Stars. We want to not have to trade any prospects.

But Tommy Edmund, I mean, we've talked about it like kind of off and on here on the show. I didn't want to see the team go out and get somebody that I wanted to turn Kikai. This guy is somebody who hasn't played all season long. Yes, I understand a lot of people really love what Tommy Edmund brings at the table, but he's somebody who's been hurt. He's had the wrist injury turned into an ankle injury while he was on rehab. But all that aside, let's try to make it positive. He does help fill some holes for this team.

He has a lot of positional versatility. And I wonder if this is somebody who they're looking at, you know, to fill the third base void, knowing or presuming that Max Muncie does come, does not come back this year, or if he's somebody who's going to slot into center field where this team very clearly needs help, because as much as I love the kid, Andy Pa has is not a center fielder. I don't know where he quite slots in best as a defender, but he's not a center fielder. So I wonder if that's going to be the Edmund spot. Kopeck.

You know, let's talk Edmund before we talk Kopeck. Because Kopeck is another guy. I'm not super duper high on. But Alana, give me your Tommy Edmund thoughts. I'm not certain about Tommy Edmund. The question that arises, I think it's more questions and answers as far as that concern. My question to this whole acquisition is how bad is Chris Taylor as far as the groin injury is concerned? And is this a move because we don't think Max Muncie is going to return at all this season.

Dave Roberts had said that kind of the progress of Max Muncie was stagnant. He's not close to returning to the big league field anytime soon. Chris Taylor is on the IL. McGee Rojas is on the IL. all of these infield situations. So perhaps they're thinking, okay, I mean, the Dodgers do have a reputation of turning guys into other forms of themselves, that they've not been in years past or with other teams. They have a way of setting guys up for success.

Am I saying that he's a gold glove infielder? No, but does he feel somewhat of a void? Yes, maybe they're concerned about the lack of production for Kike Hernandez. So they're bringing in Tommy Edmund. We don't know how long Chris Taylor, like obliques and hamstrings, groins are tricky. So I see that as part of why Tommy Edmund was the acquisition. I'm actually excited about Michael Kopeck. And I tell you why.

It doesn't come with the same sort of price tag, perhaps, as an Eric Fetty, and certainly not as a Garrett Crochet. But I do think when you're pitching for a team like the Chicago White Sox that's basically eliminated in May, you don't really, it's hard to get up for every single game. You immediately go from a pretender to a contender. and Edmund and Copic is a nice little appetizer for Friedman and the Dodgers, not the main course, but a solid starter. I absolutely agree with Jeff there. I do think that Copic will have an opportunity to kind of reinvent himself and, again, slide into a rotation that is full of experience.

Below average trade, in my opinion, Terry has to all says. I get it. Copac's been relieving all season. So I think this is something where they're trying to look to maybe this is going to be the guy that's kind of Ryan Yarbrough, insurance because YARVs has he struggled he struggled mightily over the last couple of months. The bullpen has gone kind of south as they've been overworked because the rotation has been rough. But Kopeck's going to be in that bullpen.

We've seen Evan Phillips struggling a good amount since coming back from the injury. So I wonder if, you know, yeah, he throws it with a lot of velocity. But all of the numbers, some people will say, hey, he's been better of late. I'm not enthralled. I'm not super excited about, you know, oh, if this is the move, it's another massive F of a trade deadline for the Dodgers who are coming out. I don't think they're done. I don't think they're done.

Underfree thing's not done. Again, I get that Kopec is a good bullpen piece. Who knows? I mean, is he available? I haven't watched. I don't know what, what Kopeck's bullpen usage is. Sorry, I don't have all of the numbers for the wise. But could he give you a little bit of innings?

I mean, can he eat up innings? Or is he like a, is he a one-inning guy? I don't know. But I don't think Andrew Friedman's done. I really don't. And yes, I know that you wanted ESOC Paredes as a third baseman. I know everybody thought that they wanted Randy or Rosa Rena. But of course, you know, he's with the Mariners now and give credit to the Mariners for that. I have full faith and confidence that the Dodgers are going to get somebody. They have to get a frontline starter, correct? I mean, I really, I really do think that that's an absolute need for this club. And I don't think that they're done yet. Now, the problem is who else is out there?

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All right. So you're not super psyched. So what is out there that you want? What would make Clint Paseas happy right now with the remaining players that would be available via trade to come to L.A.? Well, I mean, obviously you want Terrick Scoobble. He's not going anywhere. Terrick Scuble is not going to get moved.

Both of those guys, I think. And that's something I'm really looking forward to asking Steve Phillips about in a second, the latest with the crochet thing, because I think that that news, that Crochet doesn't want to pitch in the postseason unless he gets that extension. I don't think, I think that immediately took the Dodgers out of the running. Jack Flaherty is another one. We're kind of seeing maybe some people who are slightly less in the know. They're starting to talk about Jack Flaherty.

And I think that's your insurance knowing that maybe Walker Bueller doesn't ever come back and become the guy we expect. And maybe Bobby Miller just fell flat on his face this year. On Bobby Miller, the thing I like, I would maybe have preferred this team kind of explore, is maybe Bobby Miller is a better one-inning relief guy, something I've been, I've kind of wondered for years with B-Mill if he's that guy and he could have been somebody who can get you that hundred miles an hour out of the bullpen, something that that Copeck can do. But I don't know. I really don't know who's out there.

Is now the time to find out if Bobby Miller could go from a starter role to a reliever rule? I don't know. But by the way, Copec, to your point, a one-in-guy this season, 43 games, He's 43 and two thirds innings pitched. So he's a one inning guy. You're right. So he's like, you know, maybe he's a good boost for that bullpen. I apologize. We still need, yeah, Snell would be interesting.

No kidding, Taco Gang. Would you take Blake? I would take Snell, but let me tell you something. You just saw what he said the other day after his outing that, you know, if they keep winning, he's not going anywhere. So, you know, I don't think Blake Snell is, sure, would I take him for a half season rental? For sure. But do I think Blake Snell is going to be a Dodger?

I do not. Yeah, where are the Giants at right now? I've got to look up where they're at. I know they're not really in the hunt, but if they're able to get something from, you know, for Snell at this point, I just do not envision the Giants trading him back to the Padres or the Giants of the Dodgers.

They're trading him to the Dodgers there. No way. They're not going to help us. Absolutely not. Looking through the chat here, by the way, people not enthralled at all so far with this trade deadline, with these moves. Of course, the Dodgers,

one of the big names, wanted. Randy Rosarena, he all of a sudden goes to the Mariners. The Cubs, I'm very curious to know what the hell the Cubs are doing because they go and pick up Isok Paredes, but they're also maybe going to be trading some pieces. We'll talk about that a little bit more with Steve Phillips. Our friend here in the chat, Monster, he says Flaherty has to come home. Jack Flaherty, is that somebody that could entice you in Dodger Blue? Yeah, I mean, he does, he does come home. Again, I'll stick to the same thing I said about a change of scenery. I I think he would be really good in that Dodgers rotation.

I mean, he's not going anywhere with the tigers. The tigers are not going anywhere. They're not going to trade Terrick Scouble. They would be absolutely stupid to do. It would be, and they'd have to trade Chavez Ravine to get Terrick Scouble. And I don't think that's a good idea. I mean, the amount that Terrick Scubal is going to warrant is silly. But Jack Flaherty, I could see him in the picture.

Again, I think is he an ace? No, but is he a solid arm? I mean, is he better than James Paxton at this point? Yeah, I think so. So I wouldn't mind seeing Flaherty in the Dodgers rotation. I just don't know who else is out there that is going to make a splash. Again, like I said, I don't believe that Andrew Friedman is done. I just think this is a very, very weak trade class.

There's not an impact player other than Terek Skouble. And it's hard to say that a guy that starts every fifth day can be a real legitimate impact player, much like a, you know, like a position player could be in the lineup every single day. but it's just there's not a lot to choose from right i mean i know you said garret crochet i get it but he's made it very clear that he's not going to come to a team without an extension and he you know he's not going to risk his own help for it and you know okay i can understand that you got to protect yourself but there's not a lot out there there there really isn't uh by the way i like this comment though if we are going to spin positive we'll get to nando in just a second graham farmer in the chat

said it does raise the floor this absolutely does raise the floor because say everybody does come back and they're healthy. Tommy Edmund, his best quality is that he's not Kevin Bizio on the Dodgers active roster. He's not Nick Ahmed, who, Ahmed, for, you know, being a kind of dude that was, you know, called off the couch to come play shortstop for the Dodgers. He's done very well, you know, Gold Glove Award winner at shortstop and all of that. But Nando 390, how could they have not traded Miguel Vargas for Randy or Rosarena? So let's talk about the pieces traded away. Of course, Miguel Vargas, somebody we've talked about, you know, the best bat has played nicely slowed down a little bit.

Maybe we were going to start seeing some 3B for Miggy V, but instead he has traded to the White Sox, along with a couple of intriguing pieces, was the number 16 guy, Alexander, Albertus, and the number 18 guy. These are per baseball America, their rankings in the Dodgers farm system. Gerald Perez, who I think was,

if I'm not mistaken, was a minor league all-star this year. The name the Dodgers we're going to really miss, I think, is going to hurt most, Alberta is one of those guys. Big time bat to ball guy could be a lethal hitter at some point in his lifetime. But the Dodgers given up some big pieces

there, including Miguel Vargas. And I think there's still more pieces obviously to be moved because the 40-man roster is kind of a nightmare. But thoughts on what the Dodgers have given away. Is it an overpay? My thought is that you should

create a podcast called Road to the Show. My man, Clint Piscius, is so into the farm system and all of the things. I think the Dodgers responsibility, Clint, is to win right now. You can't go through another season without getting out of the first round and without doing whatever you can to win right now.

And yeah, you know, that's the thing about building a team, but also not depleting your farm system. And I think the Dodgers are one of the few organizations that can actually continue every single year to reload, but also have that depth in their farm season system. But let's talk to Steve Phillips, is so gracious to join us today on Dodgers territory. This man is incredibly knowledgeable about all things Major League Baseball. Obviously, former general manager. He is the co-host of the leadoff

spot on MLB Network Radio. He is a frequent contributor on MLB Network. Steve, thank you so much for being with us. I appreciate you, as always. Let's talk about the Dodgers specifically. They're not making a splash yet. I don't believe that they are done. But what goes through a general manager's mind at this point if you're Andrew Friedman and Brandon Dombs. Yeah, you know, it's hard not to get reactive to other deals getting done and feel like, oh boy, oh boy, look at another guy off the board, I better make a move. You've got to stick to the plan, trust the conversations you have going on and understand that you're not going to win every, you know, you're not going to close every trade discussion

that you have. And so there are going to be players that you've been in on, that you've made offers on that go somewhere else, you can't be emotionally overreactive to that, to where you start to make an adjustment and think, oh, boy, I better do something. I'm going to be in trouble here. And so you've got to stick to the plan and continue the conversations. And, you know, what's surprising is how many things pop up late that weren't discussed earlier as you get closer to the deadline? And owners sometimes like, well, how is this possible? All of a sudden, this comes out of nowhere. Didn't you do your job? Didn't you call people? But it is a fluid market and teams records over the

the course of the weekend, change the direction. Looks like the Texas Rangers are sellers now. And, you know, the Giants may be pulling back on Snell after they played well. And so, you know, who knows which direction this is going. But I like what the Dodgers did as part of the three-team trade that's out there. And, you know, to get Tommy Edmund as part of that and Kopeck is part of it, you get a power arm. They'll make him better than he was in Chicago. I have no doubt about that.

And Edmund, although he's been out all year, is a very capable guy. Can play short, can play second, can play the outfield. and gives them a lot of versatility and options, depending on when Mookie comes back and what are they going to do with it, in front of Rojas. So I think it's a good trade. And listen, I think in that three-team deal,

the fact that the White Sox gave up, Copec, Fetty, and Tommy Fam in the deal, and all they got back were the three prospects, I don't know what they're doing. And so I thought St. Louis and the Dodgers made up great in that deal. Steve, I wonder, are the Dodgers and the White Sox done talking yet

because we've heard the Dodgers being linked to crochet for it feels like more than a month now. Of course, they still have Luis Robert there where some people wondering if the Edmond deal is almost Luis Robert insurance. How does this whole crochet, I'm not pitching in the postseason, unless I get a contract thing?

How does that really affect the Dodgers, Andrew Friedman? And is it kind of an agent ploy or, you know, take us through that whole scenario? This is going to, to be a matter of unintended consequences. So he comes out and says, I don't want to go to the bullpen because I don't want to get hurt. I want to remain a starter. Then he says, but if I'm going to be a starter in October, I'm putting myself at risk for an injury, so I want to get a contract. What he did was almost guaranteed that he's going to stay with the white socks. His idea was to try to turn this

into money. And what he did, one is he raised eyebrows to his, you know, I don't want to say character, But like what's important? And the idea that he wants to create leverage where he has no leverage has actually ensured that he's going to stay there and not get a contract extension to do it. And so I just, it was such a misplay and such misguided advice from an, I'm assuming from an agent would have shared this with him beforehand. But it doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. Steve, let me ask you this from a general manager perspective as things go from minute to minute. I mean, the fans are sitting back like everybody needs to do something. But when things are changing so frequently, how difficult is it to stick to the plan that you mentioned?

I mean, what goes through your head? How do you guys operate in times like this? Right. So what every general manager is doing right now is they're juggling balls in the air, right? They're juggling and there's all kinds of different options that they have going on. So if they're looking for a starting pitcher, they've got plan A, B, C, D, and E. They've got for a lever, plans, A, B, C, D, and E. for outfielder if you need one or infielding that you need one.

You've got a lot of different options and you're running parallel negotiations. And you're juggling all these at the same time. Understanding, I need to get a starter. I need to get a reliever. I need to get an outfielder or an infielder. Some bat my lineup. And ideally, I want to get the best combination of the three that works for the least amount of talent, the most impact, the least amount of money I have to take on.

Understanding that's probably not the way it's going to turn out. So you may end up saying, we're going to go for the better starter, which means we've got to drop down the level of reliever that we're going to pursue. And it could be that maybe the outfield that you want, the price they're asking is too high or he gets traded somewhere else. You've got to pivot to plan B. But if you do that, now maybe you can ramp up the quality of the reliever that you're looking at. And so you've got to keep all of these going on, stay in on everything.

And at some point, you have to understand. You've got to pull the trigger. You've got to make a decision yes or no on a player because the longer you wait, the closer you get to the price going up as more teams get desperate and the chance you might get left hold of the bank without you know addressing that need on your team and so it is it is really a juggling act right now for every general manager trying to you know have some nuanced sense of where every team is and again trying to pick up talking to other teams what are they really telling me are they really interested in my guy are they just driving the price up on me what are they trying to do to it and so whether

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I mean, those guys are exceptional trade deadline additions. But at the same time, you kind of can't sit on your hands where you know tomorrow is the last day to get a deal done. How does that kind of factor into, you know, the situation where you're looking at, maybe adding somebody like a crochet or a Luis Robert or X or Y or Z. You know, you talk about your plan A, B, and C. How do you kind of factor that in there along with some of these guys maybe coming back and, you know, being assets, being weapons for your team. How does it all play out? Yeah, yeah, it's interesting, right?

So, you know, you've got to have some sense as to what somebody's going to be when they come back. Mookie Betts going to come back. You'll play every day. He's going to be great. He's easy. What is Walker Bueller going to be when his hip is better? And he comes back. Like, I don't know because, you know, he hasn't pitched a long time.

And he wasn't great before he went on the injured list with it. Is Bobby Miller going to be a factor at some point coming back into all of this as well? What is a fair expectation for Clayton Kirshaw for the rest of the year? Can you trust Glass Now's back for the rest of the year? When Miguel Rojas does come back, you know what you're going to get. You're going to get a slick fielding and make every routine play. And whatever you get with his bat is sort of icing on the cake. But it's going to be some time for Rojas.

awesome time for bets and you're playing games during that period of time and those games matter which is why you see them go after an edmund who has a lot of versatility where he can play every day for two weeks a shortstop or play three or four different positions once a week for three different weeks and so you know he gives you that versatility and that protection and depth that you're building in and when it comes to the pitching with guys who have been injured for a long period of time and then they come back to join your roster I don't create expectations that they're going to be what they used to be. I think it's a setup for disappointment. I think you have to understand there's going to be some rocky roads through this. They're going to be

a little bit rusty with it. And it's not the worst thing to have the quantity of options. And when guys come back, you can rest people. You can go with a six-man rotation. There's always a need for that extra starting pitcher. But you have to trust your medical staff about when guys are going to come back. But I want predictability. The worst thing that is, that can happen is you go through the deadline and you think, you know, we're getting all these guys back. We're going to be okay. But then they come back and they're not quite right. And you don't have any predictability in your rotation. That's why I want guys, even if they're not necessarily going to start in a playoff game, if I give you the ball and I know what I'm going to get from you

for five innings. And with that, because of our offense, we're going to have a chance to win. Because of our bullpen, we'll hold that lead or deficit until our offense comes back. And we can defend behind you. I want predictability in the final two months because you have nowhere to go to supplement your your depth once we get past this deadline. Yeah, the evil you know is better than the evil that you don't, Steve. All 30 teams have money, not all 30 spend it. The Dodgers do spend it. At what point do you have to get ownership involved when it comes to these trades and acquisitions? I mean, how do you keep them involved of all of the moving parts? What's the what's the money threshold there? Right. So it's interesting. So look, I think that

Every general manager every day is reporting to his owner two or three times a day, even if money's not a factor. You should do that. Owners want to know. They want to. And what I wanted to do is I wanted to kill my owner with overwhelm him with information to the point that it would be like, okay, I get it. You guys got this under control. You have to tell me all of the detail. Just give me some sense of what's going on.

But I wanted them to know, because, you know, you want their support. You want them to understand your logic and your thinking and support it. Now when it comes to money, you know, every organization is different. Typically, going into the deadline, you understand what level of increase you have available in your budget to add somebody to your team. Now, if you have somebody you really have interest in and the money goes beyond that, you then reach back out to the owner, discuss the possibilities, explain if it's a controllable player, a rental player, the impact you think that player can have.

Understanding, you better be right because when you go to owners for extra millions of dollars, They want to make sure that you're going to get a return on the investment. And so it is one that each organization is different. And generally, owners are up to speed with all of the options and discussions. And sometimes you might throw out there, look, you know, we might be able to be in play for somebody who's going to make a lot of money. And, you know, Zach Eflin was a guy that, you know, had $18 million next year. It's more than what I want to pay. But he could be a player that can factor for us this year.

I could consider talking to Tampa about putting money in the deal to cover some part of next year. year? What's your appetite for that? And really give them all that information so that they're part of the, they take ownership in every decision that you're making. One last question before we let you get out of here, Steve. Looking at the NOS competition, obviously the Padres in particular, they've made some moves there. They're looking to get better. Have the Padres close the gap in the NOS on the Dodgers? No. I mean, I think that they're going to get tattoos back. But no, they're not nearly, you know, in my mind closer. I like what they've done. I love what AJ

Preller. Listen, I was one as a gentlemanager. I wanted to go for it. So I would go, I would make the big deal. I would trade prospects because I never believe that I was guaranteed the playoffs next year. If I had a chance to make it this year, I was going to go for it because how many times do we see teams? Look at the Texas Rangers. They win the World Series last year and it looks like they're going to be sellers here as they pivot at the deadline. So when you've got that opportunity to go for it, I think you go for it. And I think certainly the Dodgers are in that position and a number of other teams seem to be, you know, putting it out there right now.

But the price to be paid for prospects is phenomenal, phenomenally high right now. And I got to tell you, that's because of that, I think the Dodgers did great, did great for Edmund and Kopeck, for what they had to give up. I'd do it in a heartbeat. All right. Steve Phillips, I cannot tell you how much we appreciate the knowledge. It's always a pleasure learning from you. Again, you can catch Steve on MLB Network Radio on the lead-off spot. He's a co-host of that and catch him all the time on MLB Network. Thanks, my friend. We'll talk to you soon. You got it. My pleasure. Thank you for having me. All right. Steve Phillips, tremendous GM. And all right, time to get into last licks, Clint. I'm always smarter every time I talk to Steve Phillips. He's just such a plethora of information.

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before we let you go, before we let our folks go, I should say. managers are allowed to have bad days too. Are you surprised at some of the moves our boy Dave Roberts made over the course of the weekend? You know, I know some folks really had their pitchforks and torches out on social media on Saturday and Sunday, Dave Roberts pulling a couple of rookies seemingly early in their starts. Probably could have gotten one more out in their outings. But it's a tough job. It's absolutely a tough job. But back-to-back days, it backfires.

And I don't know how much you put of that on Dave, how much you put of that on, you know, kind of the script, as some people might call it. Or if you put it on relievers not doing their jobs, or if you put it on relievers not doing their jobs because they're, you know, burnt out, they're overworked because the starters are coming out. It's this vicious cycle that the Dodgers kind of deal with. But Dave, of course, you don't get a lot of praise when you make the right moves. But my God, do you get a lot of shit when you make the perceived wrong ones? I don't know how much you caught of it. Do you think Dave should have left those in there? I know our friend Jerry Harrison, Jr., really went off on the situation,

particularly with Rebleski, looked like he was cruising on Saturday, should have stayed in there, and, you know, the Dodgers ended up losing that game. This is the way I look at it. I don't think of this as just a Dave. Here's our, I love it talk, because the best manager in the bigs, I agree. Actually, I don't know best manager, but one of the best.

Here's the thing. It's not just limited to Dave Roberts. This is a trend in baseball now. God forbid we let guys cruising stay in the game because of what the spreadsheet says that we need to do about, oh, they don't pair well to the next guy coming up or they don't, you know, they don't pitch against lefties very well. Or, you know, this guy's taking him deep three of the four times that he's faced him. If you have a guy on the hill, I'm a firm believer in the I test. I'm a firm believer in the, I mean, there's a place for analytics and Sabre metrics. I understand that. But to take Blake Snell out of the game in the World Series, nobody's happier than the Los Angeles Dodgers. Thank you, Kevin Cash.

And you even said Kevin Cash for this situation. But it's not just a Dave Roberts disease. It's an every manager today kind of disease where they feel like they won't let guys face, you know, third time through the order. And it's a problem. And that's why when you have a no hitter now, it's like, oh, my God, they let the guy go, you know, for a complete game. Who's 14 pitches? You know, it's, it's just, that's the modern game. That's what it is.

They have these plans. They map out what they like to call it. They map out, you know, the game plan for the pitchers. Like you say, you know, not getting, having them face the lineup three times through, especially a rookie like Robleski or a River Ryan, but still, you know, this isn't your father's game. This isn't even your uncle's game. This is not your grandpa's game for sure. This is the modern game.

This is how they play it. It's all planned out. to a degree and hopefully nine times out of 10, the guy that was coming in behind the next dude or the previous dude gets the job done. The problem is the bullpen is just kind of rough right now. But hey, they got a piece. They got a Copec. Maybe they go out and get more. Alana, what do you think it's next for this Dodgers team on the deadline wise? I don't know because I just, I just don't. They need a starter. Who is that starter? Is it Jack Flaherty? Cool. It's got to be. I don't know who else is out there.

that even makes any sense. Maybe they do go get Snell. I mean, so what are the giants are what? 13 and a half back, 10 and a half back, whatever the heck it is. I don't know, but they need a starter. Whoever it is, they need a solid starter. What would Farhan Zaydi be smoking to trade Blake Snell back to or to the Dodgers? Like, just and not. Listen, maybe maybe he owes Andrew Friedman a steak dinner when he was under Andrew here. He never, you know, materialized on that. Listen, I don't know. It's probably going to be Jack Flaherty. I'm not certain about that, but the point is they need a front line starter. What do you have coming up on all Dodgers, my friend? So we're talking tonight, 6 p.m. More Dodgers off day Dodgers talk.

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