Dodgers Territory - Swept In Chicago, Snell Shut Down, Trevor May Joins!

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

DT hosts Alanna Rizzo and Clint Pasillas break down the Dodgers’ 7-6 loss in Wednesday’s bullpen game in Chicago, including a tough night from one of the team’s most dependable relievers thus far. (0:49)(3:09) Blake Snell has been shut down from all baseball activity and will undergo further testing. What does this mean for the Dodgers pitching staff?Get 20% off your first Slab Pack or card purchase by going to ArenaClub.com/FOUL and use code FOUL.(6:58) Former MLB pitcher Trevor May joins the show to discuss how a depleted rotation can wear down a bullpen over the course of a long season.(11:29) Could adding a “second fastball” be the key to unlocking the next level of dominance for Roki Sasaki?(18:29) With Bobby Miller’s recent struggles, the question arises: should the Dodgers consider moving him to the bullpen? Trevor weighs in.(20:24) Trevor breaks down how tweaking a pitcher’s arm slot can be a game-changer for injury prevention, highlighting how Dustin May has done just that this year.Subscribe to DT on YouTube! DT is LIVE on Mondays & Thursdays at 12p PT/3p ET all year long!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are your host for the next 30 minutes. Trevor May, the host of May Day. Of course, former big leaguer is going to join us here momentarily. Looking forward to that. Make sure you like us rate us five stars subscribe all of the things cubs i'm tired of you uh clint piscis let's get to the big ticket so it's very tired clint the cubs got swept they got swept right out of rigley my friend dodgers got swept by the cubs they meant the freaking dodgers got swept right out of wriggly field um i'm glad we're done with the cubbies this year uh perhaps they're better than we thought they were um but that's okay better on april 22nd 23rd than October 22nd and 23rd.

Your biggest takeaway, sir, of this series. I'll be it short. Short series, yeah. And I'm so done facing the Cubs, but are the Cubs better than we thought they were? Are the Dodgers worse off than we were hoping they would be? I'm sure maybe there's a little combination in there. But yeah, just very done with it. Everything that could go wrong pitching-wise did go wrong for this team.

Of course, you have a lot of relievers. having to blow their load in this series. Jack Dreyer for the first time putting up a bad outing in his Major League career gives up four earned yesterday. We also had, of course, the previous game, Dustin May having his worst start of the season, all this kind of stuff. It's like, I do wonder if this pitching staff is gas. And we talked a little bit about that on the post game on Tuesday.

It's showing signs of being pretty worn out relievers, Dodger bullpen, leads baseball innings. pitch this year and it's just overall um there was a tough watch of a series i'll settle on that it was a tough watch i think things will even themselves out i am not panicking i refuse to panic one thing i've learned about uh this team is never doubt them and i don't i don't doubt them and i think they're going to be fine um yeah i mean jack dryer came back down to earth can we do both though can we panic a little bit while still knowing they're going to figure it out whilst um i mean you can sure i mean you're you're a fan, you're allowed to do so. I'm just going to be the voice of reason, if you will.

You know, it was a crappy series and they're home. And Dave Robert said after the game, post game to reporters that the off day, once again, is coming at a good time. The Dodgers have played well at home. So that is a good thing. The offense tried to battle through it again, much better showing from mooky bets, you know, three for five. So again, I don't have a doubt that this team is going to be fine. I'm more concerned about Blake Snell not coming back soon. Yeah, the Snell thing. We got a graphic about that telling us that Snell, who was supposed to, of course, throw a bullpen session there in Chicago, shut down, scratched, and heading back to, or everybody heading back to L.A., but we'll be undergoing imaging on that balky left shoulder

of his. And that is not ideal. That is not good. And that is something that is very, worrisome when we're talking, you know, initially maybe he wasn't going to miss a start. And now all of a sudden, it could be weeks. It could be, God knows how long. But that's a big blow for, like I said, already overwhelmed pitching staff right now. And, you know, rumors of all that depth were greatly exaggerated entering the season. We knew it would come later on in the season. But yeah, this is definitely a big blow.

And other dudes are going to need to step up. Tony Gonson will be coming back. and rejoining the starting rotation soon enough. He just wrapped up a five-inning outing in, well, five-plus at AAA, Oklahoma City last night, and all things turned out well. So there's one arm back. There's one All-Star back, but it's still like, this is tough. And Glasnow with the calf last time or ankle, whatever it was, they need a little bit of help.

It feels like they need a little bit of help. Well, Glasnow at least was just cramps. I mean, you can get over that. We made the joke about the pickle juice and all of the things. I mean, I'm not super concerned about that. I mean, Blake Snell is a bit concerning, but I had this conversation with Ken Rosenthal today on Fair Territory that, you know, the Dodgers will be overly cautious when it comes to certain guys.

There is no way in the world that the Dodgers are not making the postseason, right? So they're going to make sure that they're being overly cautious with guys, not running guys out there too long. Remember how exhausted they were. And AJ Pierzinski just had this conversation on foul territory, or Eric Kratz did, rather, that they were exhausted at the end of the season. So they're trying to minimize those types of things. And you learn something from the past to take into this year, right?

The Dodgers are going to be fine. They're going to make the postseason. They're going to get more reinforcements coming back. You mentioned Gonsalind on his way. Obviously, Kirsch at some point. They'll figure it out. I just find that, you know, we started the season 162 and O. And now we're like, what is happening?

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May part of the Fowel Territory Network, Alana, as he gets his mic squared away. Well, he's obviously hosting May Day, part of the Fowell Territory platform as he works on his stuff that airs weekly. How about now? Hey, yeah. Yay. Something switched right when I joined. I'm so sorry about that.

That's okay. Welcome to the show. We appreciate you very much. We were just talking, of course, Trevor, about the Dodgers here on Dodger territory. I know that sounds weird. But what are you looking at when you're watching? watching these games. Clint and I were talking about depth sometimes lack thereof because, you know, they're missing a couple of guys. But is there any reason for Dodgers fans to be

concerned? One thing I've been doing a lot when getting questions like this, especially with this team, is comparing it to last year because they had a lot of injuries, issues at that time. And even more so, I'd say than they have right now, especially without a Shohei Otani in the wings, getting ready and Clayton Kershaw getting ready. They have so much more depth now. And that leads me to the, like, it would take twice as many injuries to decimate them in a way where it's a huge issue in the starting pitching side of things. And they're notorious for piecing together bullpen games as well to bridge the gap. So they have a lot of tools in their toolbox more than maybe any other team.

But that said, you know, you want your highest caliber pitchers. available. It's not just about having guys who can throw a ball. It's about having the best guys throwing the ball that you could have. So like having Blake down is is not ideal, especially with the contract you just signed. You know, you're hoping you get these big, a lot of production out of everybody. But in terms of being able to weather a storm, there's just not a team that is even close to the Dodgers, the way it's set up in in order to like weather a storm like this. Yeah, I mean, we saw them last year. were battered, beaten, and bruised, and they still found a way to kind of traverse through

winning 11 games in the postseason. It can be done, but these are the tough times of the season. I imagine you know very well as a longtime big league pitcher. What kind of strain do these stretches do on a bullpen arm when you're missing so many starting pitchers and you have bullpen games already, you know, coming down in April? What does that do for the guys who, I imagine, you guys are grinding. You're trying to, you know, pull for each other and be like, you know, you know, F, yeah, bro, I got this, we got this.

But at some point, you're going to get tired. Yeah, it's a grind, even in the best of times in the bullpen. You know, there's teams out there running six-man rotations for length of time, which means you only get seven bullpen guys, which is an absolute nightmare unless those six guys are all going deep into games. So, like, it can definitely be any extra grind you're adding or anything that happens where you look out at that bullpen, you say, we're going to ask you to do a little bit more.

We're going to ask you to do a little bit more. We're going to lead on you a little bit more. It's like a dam breaking. If some guys start going down or throw too many innings, it could be a snowball effect that then affects the starting pitchers back again when they come back because you need to cover more innings and they need to go stretch out. So it can be a lasting problem.

There was actually a wonderful piece written by Louis Paulus earlier this year on his newsletter, I believe it's called, Blue Report, or Loosletters was called. And he made the case that that bullpins are actually two days after, you know, getting a long start from their starter. They, the statistics show that they're just way better. And the opposite happens when believers have to come in the third inning or the second inning a couple days in a row. The adverse effects to the bullpen and their statistics long term are tough for a week or even two weeks after that. So like it just shows kind of the residual effects of losing pitchers in one of these roles.

A guy here and there is fine. It's just like you lose three in a short amount of time and you're filling in gaps with when young guys who don't have a lot of experience, they don't have long leashes. That that can really wear on the psyche of a reliever as well, knowing that I'm a three out guy. Now I'm a five out guy. And I got to figure out a way to do it. Yeah. What is this four out, five out save that some folks are talking about in the postseason? Trevor, I want to go back to the starting rotation of the Dodgers for just a hot second.

When you look at Roki Sasaki, we know that he is a guy. that's young he's a guy that's learning his way in the big leagues he had two pitches what is this supposed second fastball explain that to me um and also how long can a starter get away with two effective pitches as he tries to add something to that arsenal um i think that varies uh to answer the second part of that question first uh in terms of being a two pitch pitcher as a starter um you can get get away with it for, I'd say a portion of a season if it's good enough. Now, by all accounts, his splitter slash forkball, depending on who you ask, is as unique of a off-speed pitch as anyone has in the league, and it moves in a way that is unpredictable

to almost everyone, including him and the catcher. So that's going to be a good weapon regardless. The problem is it's the big league. So that needs to either be a strike all the time. You've got to be pinpoint command with it, or you, you know, need to learn something else. A guy, a prime example of this, a guy like Justin Steele, he throws basically two pitches, but he just varies how he, he manipulates the ball within those two pitches. And so it really makes him feel like he has several. Now he technically throws a change,

but he throws like three percent of time. So it's like he's a slider fastball guy, but he knows how to like yank the fastball. He knows how to sink it a little bit when he needs to. He has big, big slider, small slider. So he's turned it into all these different pitches that, that, that, even though on paper he's not Seth Lugo, he is working within the frameworks. Roki is not one of those guys. He is trying to maximize his fastball stuff and he's trying to maximize his splitter stuff. Those are the two things he does and his slider is biometrics. A solid, okay pitch, throw it over first strike, gets some swinging misses from time to time, but it's not a power breaking ball like most, pretty much everyone in the major league is looking for now.

And he can't really use it as a wrinkle either. And that's to kind of take it to the second part, or the first part of the question, the two fastballs. The multiple fastballs thing is what every pitcher is looking to do. A lot of news was, it was talked about a lot going into spring training. Paul Skeens, having four pitches last year, coming up the big leagues, having all the success. And he comes into spring. He's like, I'm throwing a sinker and a cutter now. And now I have three fastballs.

And everyone's like, why? Like, you were so good. And he's like, it's because I would actually like guys to hit the ball harder or earlier in account because I want to go deeper into games. I won't throw a lot of innings because I want to be an ace. and the only way to do that is you can't strike everybody out. You just throw too many pitches to do that. So it was his way of getting people off of his good pitches

that then are producing strikeouts anyway. So he's getting the strikeouts the same way, but he's throwing less pitches to get that many strikeouts. And that was his goal. That's very advanced for a 22-year-old. But Roki is going to have to do that same thing. Because once you have one pitch that everyone's worried about all the time, they tend to get better at taking it when it's a ball

and fighting it off when it's a strike. And when that happens, how can you get them off it again so you can go back to it without throwing 100 pitches in four innings, which is so good that he could throw four innings, give up a run or no runs, but it would take him all of his pitches to get through that. And in the big leagues,

it's about adding additional pitches that are called wrinkles that maybe aren't nasty in a swing and miss way and they might give him more contact, but they make everything else better, and they're a pitch you can get softer contact or maybe a ground ball in a 101 count or something. He's going to need a single, or cutter or some like a splinker like a hard version of a splitter if that's what's comfortable

to him something that is a strike pitch that is hard that then allow him to get to his splitter and his breakwell yeah i was having this conversation or a similar conversation recently i love that you're bringing it up as well i think a cutter would help him out a whole bunch just something to get the ball moving the other way we did see uh in a start against the rangers you know the ball him worrying less about the velocity and that ball kind of you know getting a little bit more arm side run. I think that benefits him a whole lot sitting around 93, 94, and then it feels to me like that splitie plays a lot better. Just talking mechanically with the pitching, obviously, he's one of those dudes. He sets up with that forkball grip. How much, I guess this is more so me taking

advantage of talking to a pitcher about it, but like, like getting from here to like a good cut fastball does with the way he throws, like would that be a natural addition to a. his arsenal, I guess is where I'm trying to get to with this question. I think so, yeah, because cutter grips are usually pretty close to four seam grips. They're just augmented off that, and he already gets to his foreseam. So I think that people who throw splitters almost always start with splitter grip, because it's, because you have to, by its nature, you have to dig into your glove, and you don't want to do that when you're coming set, because it's very easy to see.

So you start Doug, and then you come, and then every other pitch is moving out of that, out of that position, or if you're holding the splitter anyways, you can, like, fake it. You can fake as if you're pulling off it or something. You can fake the other way. You can't fake the digging. So that makes a lot of sense. I actually held a splitter grip my last two years, even though I stopped throwing my splitter because none of my other pitch grips, I didn't throw a splitter anymore. So I had to change it no matter what, which made it so I didn't have to worry about it anymore. So a lot of guys do that now, too. You just grip a pitch. You don't throw to start so that you can so you can move it every time. So I don't think that would be a big deal. I think maybe he's got some angle on his forcing fass.

He like tends to throw it down in the zone, not something you want to do, especially very often, especially when you don't have a ton of ride like it kind of does. But he's not a long extension guy and he's not a low release type of guy. So ride doesn't isn't as good for him anyway. So it's about locating it up and then using the splitter off of it. So he the problem is learning a cutter a lot of times not the easiest thing to do because it's a slight version of your four seam so you can mess up your foreseem a little bit. I struggled with that. I couldn't throw a cutter because my foreseem was already supinated. And I was already kind of throwing a cutter grip. And that's what my foreseem did. So in order to get it to break, I'd have really turn it, which then broke everything.

So that's a concern. Sometimes a sinker's more natural. Or like I said, like that whole splinker, like it's just a slightly widened out to sinker that's 95, but moves like his splitter. That might be an option for something harder that he can throw in the zone that's going to get hit more. but it'll still benefit both his four seam and its splier. Maybe that's the way. Guys are using it kind of, it's kind of a hybrid pitchers, a lot of those these days.

And we're looking for weak contact that. That's the goal. Week contact, like you said, get deep into games like Schen's trying to do. I love that. Trevor May. If you want to go deeper, he needs to do it. Trevor May is Dustin May,

your long-lost relative. And Dustin May, coming into the season, we wanted to put him in the bullpen. I'm glad that he is not in the bullpen, considering the way he's been throwing the ball as a starter. What do you think they should do with Bobby Miller? Do you think they should take Miller to get out of his head a little bit and put him in the pen? Yeah.

I think that's a I think that's a great option. I think that he has the opportunity to be, he could be a Kopeck type. Michael Kopeck had the same kind of struggles a little bit, not quite probably to Bobby's level, but, you know, we see him trying to make the adjustments to be a starting pitcher. He's added a sinker. Unfortunately, the sinker moves exactly like his forcing fastball. He's really struggling to make it sink. He's trying to find a wrinkle pitch like Roke. He's going to eventually have to learn too, and he just isn't finding it. His command is not great either. I think that comes with, he's just trying to find pitches that

move the way he wants them do. And when you don't have a lot of confidence that they are doing what you want them to do, you get worried about walks a little more. You get worried about, like, you're trying to fill up his own. And so he's just kind of in the middle. And sometimes, you just got to go, hey, man, go throw 100 and throw a breaking ball. Those are the two things we need you to do. Simplify it. Sometimes they find a confidence there and then work their way back into being a starter, which maybe five years ago, I'd be like, usually when you move guys out there and they find success, they want to stay because they like, they like what they see. But there's a lot of guys transitioning back and it's working. It's working much better than it did. Not a long time ago.

And so I would say it's a viable. And it's the Dodgers. So they know what they're doing. So I would say, go out there, throw us hard to kick up some dust, as my pitching coach, Stu Clyburn used to say. Just go pick up some dust. And obviously, I mean, you're somebody who started your career kind of starting a little bit. And I think you found a decent niche there in the bullpen.

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Another thing I did want to ask you about a lot of brings up Dustin May, and you kick aside the start that he had in Chicago. He's looked really, really good coming back from missing the greater part of the last four years with some injuries, tough on him, you know, battling. back. You got to love the kid. The tenacity to do that. But you had talked about on your show May Day, which we do want to make sure we talk about as well. You had mentioned on your show the idea last year was the endemic of all of the pitching injuries, and it's been that way for a number of years now getting worse and worse. And you had mentioned, you know, kind of bring in that arm

slot lower. Bring in the arm slot lower. Dustin May is somebody who has really, really, you look at the numbers here, how much lower that arm angle is here in 2025, versus. versus, you know, past points in his career. Can you explain to our audience here a bit what that does both, you know, for stuff, but also for the longevity of a pitcher's career? Yeah, that's a great question. And I'm glad you brought up, Dustin, because I actually didn't know that he had dropped his arm angle that much.

And it seems like this is a pattern. I did a breakdown on my show Mayday a couple last week, I guess. And we talked about Paul Skeens, Paul Regans and Gerard Chorcher are all three guys who've all dropped their arm slots also. So like when you see guys like that all saying, I want to throw more innings, I want to stay healthy, and then they all do the same thing.

There's probably something in the zeit guys that people are talking about and they're making changes on it. It seems like Dustin's one of those guys. So lowering your arm slot sounds like a simple fix. There's a lot of things that go into that. There were a couple studies done. One was released in February.

The other one was released in March. So this is really recent. The first one in February basically looked at 21 different indicators on a pitcher's motion and then try to determine how much each one of them affected your stress on your elbow specifically. And so this was in relation to Tommy John. One of the things they found was arm angle makes a big difference. They didn't know how much, but they were like, that's one of the biggest factors. And there's a couple mechanical adjustments that affect your arm angle the most outside of just dropping it.

So the next one then was like, okay. Okay, so how much does the arm angle affect it? So they focused mostly on that. They tested about 80 pitchers. I think it was 75 or 80 different pitchers, which they had data on. And they roughly came down to every 10 degrees you drop your arm, five less Newton's on your arm. The average is like 86.

So it comes out to about 5% less stress, which is significant to say the least. And this is shoulder and elbow. And so, but what it comes. down to it's not about just like whatever your mechanics are and you just drop your arm whatever that is a lot of it came had to do with trunk tilt what trunk tilt is is your glove side but basically the angle of your shoulders towards the ground on your glove side and your arm side when you release the ball so some guys lean really hard to the glove side and that raises their arm naturally in the case of crochet for he's a prime example there's if you look at overlays from last year to this year it is insane how much less tilt he has he's way more upright and so therefore his arms come down basically into a natural slot in his joints. And so his wrist stopped kind of flexing some guys. Sometimes your wrist will flex one way or the other to compensate versus a change in another place.

That's what pitching is baseball is in general. Everyone's compensating because something else hurts a little bit. And you're like, okay, I'm going to use this a little more. You just automatically do it because that's how you were, that's how you learned to play. And over time, you can get weird injuries happening. So a lot of guys are cleaning this up to where there's no compensation and your arm is naturally in your in your shoulder joint where you have the most range either way and it's moves moves the most smoothly and in order to do that most guys are raising themselves up and sitting up

taller so just judging by what i've seen from dust and may that does seem like the case like trunk tilt is the issue um and and it's caused a lot less strain in his arm and he still got the velocity like yeah the biggest thing was they said you don't lose a lot of you know you can drop your arm quite a quite a few degrees before you start getting the the reduction in in velocity. It's basically when you get to zero degrees directly sidearm and below that's when velocity drops. When you start to get in the submarine, your velocity just goes out of a cliff. But above that, it's it's almost nominal. And so these guys all throw high 90s up to 100. They're like, I would love to continue throwing high 90s. That would be nice because it's kind of my thing.

And so far so good for pretty much everyone on that list, they've all maintained their velocity, maybe a slight tick down, but, but nothing concerning at all. You know, it's crazy that people can still survive throwing, oh, no, they're only throwing 92, 93, 94, you know, back in my day, that was a hell of a fastball. But all of a sudden, if you're not throwing, you're not throwing 99 or 101, you know, you're not a man. You don't belong in this league. I had one, listen, we have another, one last quick, hard hitting question from the,

the audience here. J.R. had this a little while ago. Why doesn't this guy's couch is bad? So we're very interested because we got the couch set up behind you there. One's a chair. One's a chair. Thank you. They were purchased at drastically different times.

Anyone who's ordered a couch or a chair recently, just know that by the time you get it, you forgot what you ordered. That's a lot of things. Yeah. People don't want to see my house. One of those will pull out. There's only so many options, guys. I don't know. I don't know.

No one comes up here. Trevor, the education, not only on your kids. couch is mismatching or your furniture mismatching, but the baseball and pitching, the art of pitching is appreciated. What we don't want to let you go without talking about May Day. Every Monday, two hours, tell us what we can learn by watching you. How do we find you? All the things. Yes, every Monday, 1 p.m. Pacific Time. I am live on May Day. The first hour is on the Fowel territory YouTube channel. So you don't got to go anywhere new. And the second hour is on my channel, Trevor May Baseball that's also on YouTube, or you can watch the whole thing via Twitch as well.

And we basically do what I just did. Find a couple subjects, get some deep dives, do some player breakdowns, some guys that are hotter or not so much and try to figure out what's going on. And then the second hour is a whole lot of community stuff. You could ask questions in the chat. I talk to chat. We do games. We do nastiest pitches a week.

We got a lot of fun stuff. So it's a really, really good time with where you get kind of both. both the scripted deep dive stuff and the community driven kind of stream stuff. It's been a good time. Awesome. Well, I appreciate to talking baseball with you here. We both, I think, hopefully everybody, appreciate to talking baseball with you. Guys, make sure you check out Mayday.

Make sure you go follow Trevor on the socials. Follow him home. You could ask him about the couch there. Don't do that. That would be weird. But thank you for the time, Trevor. And we'll hopefully chat again soon. Of course.

Thanks for having you guys. All right, Lana. Let's go ahead and throw the last licks. Let's do it. All right, guys, last Licks, we're going to introduce you to Becky. This little girl is in Texas, actually. So if you're a Dodger fan in Texas, please spread the word. She's a seven-month-old pity mix.

She needs an adopter. This poor little girl was astray. And unfortunately, she got her foot, her front left foot stuck in some sort of trap that was set for her. And unfortunately, when she tried to free herself and escape, she mutilated her foot. And we had to have her leg amputated. But she's doing great. She's doing really, really well. tripods can still have wonderful

full lives and she is awesome and she's sweet and she's kind and she's spayed and she's vaccinated and she's wonderful. So if you are in the Austin Texas area, please spread her around and share her and you can hit me up of course on social if you need any help we love a good tripod. We love a good tripod doggo.

She's a sweetheart and she's young and she doesn't mean honestly like a few more months and she won't know any different right? So she's great. And we, and we, injuries supported. Oh,

so sweet. Petties are so, they're so strong. Anyway, that's barely going to affect her. Yeah, it's not going to affect her. You know,

one of the things that affected us all about 10 years ago today was the great race between Adrian Gonzalez and our friend, David Vassay. Take us through this moment. Because obviously you were,

this was in, this was in San Diego. And look at Andy Vance Lake. So remember when Dave Vasay decided that he could race Adrian Gonzalez, the then first basement of your Los Angeles Dodgers? And Dave was wearing like some random shoes from Justin Turner, I think. And they basically raced and Vassay got his ass kicked. And I don't even think, I don't even think like Gonzo was like even putting that much effort into it. And he must have beaten Dave by like 20, 30 yards.

And I was the MC for that. And there you have. I can't believe that was 10 years ago, but that's, that's insanity. That's why I love how quickly DV started pulling up because he's like, I'm getting my ass beat here. But you know, at least he went out there.

He's such a punching bag, Dave, but the players love him. Like I remember one time, I think I said this before, you know, one time in spring training when Kenley was still here, he picked Vasay up one arm and one leg and was just helicopter in him around

the spring training facility at Camelback. And I was like moving. tables and chairs so Dave Basset's head wouldn't smash into the furniture. But yeah, he's a good sport, but he got his butt kicked by Adrian Gonzalez. There you have it 10 years ago on this day. That's pretty funny. I mean, they let him have it. He deserves it too.

He deserves all the good and the bad with it. We love DV. But that's about it on this edition of the show. If you guys want to find more of me, I don't know. Like, I think people are just tired about talking about the Dodgers right. now. I'm okay given everybody an evening off. Maybe, I don't know, I might film some content. I got some things going on at real flesh job, as I call it, so I got to figure that out. But otherwise, I would just tell people to do this. You should subscribe here to our YouTube

channel, Dodgers Territory. We are getting close to 10,000 subscribers. Thank you. Subscribe to my personal YouTube channel, All Dodgers with Clint Fasias. It's there. It's there. Check it out. Search for me on the Google machine. Find me Real FRG. I usually have the links and whatnot when I am going live. But guys, the Dodgers will endure and survive. We will be fine. We will be happy. Just just fine.

We're going to be back on Monday. Clinton and I will be with a brand new show. Have a good weekend. We'll be talking about lots of Ws. I can feel it. Go Dodgers. Skeens Yamamoto tomorrow. That's going to be fun.

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