Donnell - A Def Jam
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Here again I sit with the breath of air, he refused to let me quit.
Get Right is the name and in the sky it shines bright.
And if I could do the same, I refuse to lay down because I have a chance to rebound.
And all I want to do is show you that I can do that for me and then you too.
They call me Get Right, and that's what I call myself to do and get it right, and I do it for me and you.
Thank you.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi. Yo, yo, yo. Nell Rawlings show live in your face. Fuck y'all bitches.
You'll never take my place. Thank you. My mind's telling me no, but my body, my body's telling me, yeah.
What happened?
I don't know.
This is crazy.
This is not even a subject or anything.
Where the fuck is R. Kelly?
Where the fuck is R. Kelly?
Jail?
Yeah, but a lot of people are in jail.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of people are in jail, but they still stay out of the news.
You know what I mean?
They're not out of TMZ and everything.
What I'm, like, I don't even want to talk about R. Kelly.
I just started singing that song, but he just disappeared.
Certain things, sometimes I think in life, something tragic can happen.
Then something more tragic happens, just squash everything.
That's true.
I think if anybody was happy that COVID hit the streets, it was R. Kelly.
That's true.
COVID was the only thing that kept R. Kelly out of the fucking news.
R. Kelly, what the fuck?
We talked about this before. that you can have, say, an artist that you grew up on, you know,
that for some reason has had a troubled life,
or some of the evils that he's done are to lighten down,
and kind of their celebrity fades in the respect you have for them.
Fade.
It's happening for white people right now.
What?
Yeah, Woody Allen.
There's a new documentary.
Woody Allen's still alive?
Woody Allen's still alive, yeah.
Okay, now, okay.
Damn, it didn't take me no time to make this a black-white issue.
No time at all.
Why is it that the pervs in the black community
get treated different than the pervs in the white community?
Deary, you've been a white guy, and you're responsible.
You represent all white people, okay? All white community. Deary, you've been a white guy. And you're responsible. You represent all white people.
Okay?
All of them, Deary.
Do they know that I'm Jewish?
Because that could be an issue.
Man, fuck that.
That's still white.
You know what the fuck I mean.
You know, you represent all white people now.
Wait, can I just say, wait, Donnell,
just for the record,
you know the white people that like,
they wave those like Confederate flags
and the white people that are like,
on a certain angle, like real, like white genocide people yeah i'm not white to them i know you're not white to them just so just okay okay let's be clear you're not white to them but
to us i get it meaning african americans you're right my niggas and them my man's and them you're
white i know we like it becomes your boy. Anything.
Oh,
that ain't my boy though.
No,
I'm not talking about you and your community.
I'm talking about the perception black people have.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's the same perception white people have about black people.
You know what I'm saying?
Anytime.
And not to say I am a,
I like Barack Obama,
right?
Anytime he did anything, it was like your boy.
So any white perverts are going to be your mans in them.
Why is it that your boys can do the craziest, perverted, weird shit,
and you don't get the wrath as when black people do it?
For your people, let us understand why.
I mean, I'm going to just...
White privilege?
Yeah, maybe.
Is it safe to say white privilege?
Systemic racism?
Do you know what white privilege is?
Yeah, there you go.
You're hitting the nail on the head.
No, but what is your definition?
Because I want to, you know,
black people have their idea
of what white privilege is.
I don't know if white people
identify what white privilege is.
This is what I consider white privilege. When I was younger in my 20s i got pulled over
in a sob 9000 with 25 pounds of weed in my trunk yo i didn't know you was about that life son and
then the cop wait wait wait stop for a second you had 25 pounds of weed yeah what the fuck you're
doing 25 pounds of weed making cash cash. You used to sell weed?
Yeah.
Why do you make me feel so bad when I want to smoke, son?
I don't make you feel bad.
What are you talking about?
I am an ally.
Okay, maybe I think you make me feel bad because you don't smoke with me.
Yeah, that could be it.
That could be your own thing.
I don't smoke, but I'm a huge advocate for cannabis.
And where do you, what?
East Coast.
Where?
Well,
like all over.
I would drive up from
Massachusetts.
I would go to Massachusetts
and then I would drive down
to Philadelphia
and pretty much
in New York and Philadelphia.
You did,
okay,
tell me your story.
What happened?
You got 25 pounds a week.
I got pulled over by the police.
God damn,
only back then?
I don't even know what.
A couple times I got,
I got,
one time my car broke down.
This,
both are a great example
of white privilege. So the time my car broke down. Both are a great example of white privilege.
So the time my car broke down, I was in New Jersey,
which I believe is a zero tolerance state at that time.
This is 1999, 98.
Right.
I had about 25 pounds of weed in my trunk.
My clutch blew out.
My clutch just went right to the ground.
Where the fuck does a person in 1999 get 25 pounds of weed?
I can understand that now, but how the fuck?
You had to connect, son.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Who gave it to you, son?
I did.
Who gave it to you?
You want me to say his government?
No, I don't want you to say his government.
No.
Damn, I'm so proud that you had 25 pounds a week, but go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Clutch blows out.
I'm sitting at a red light. I call AAA. Obviously, I'm like proud that you had 25 pounds of weed, but go ahead. I'm sorry. Clutch blows out. I'm sitting at a red light.
I call AAA. Obviously, I'm like,
I have everything I need, you know.
Only, okay, I gotta stop you.
I had a nice car. I gotta stop you right
now. That is very white. Yeah.
To have 25 pounds of weed on you,
your car breaks down, and you call
AAA. I'm calling my niggas,
son. You call AAA? Go ahead.
I call AAA. The tow truck's on the way. A cop pulls
up behind me, puts his lights
on, gets out of his car. He looks in my window.
I go, sorry, ma'am. My clutch blew
out. I got the tow truck's on the way.
And he goes, you know what? Why don't I just
bump my car up to your car?
He helped you? And he pushed me. Get this.
He pushed my car
right into a Dunkin' Donuts.
So he wanted to get coffee? And then he went into the Dunkin' Donuts. So he wanted to get coffee?
And then he went into the Dunkin' Donuts.
And there was another cop in there.
So no dogs?
Nah, no dogs.
Nothing.
Not even a blink of an eye.
Nope.
He didn't call you mister.
Nope.
Because that's black people.
We all know when they call you mister, you're about to get in jail.
You're going to jail.
When they call you mister, this is one phrase that black people are so nervous about.
We hear, could you step outside the car for a second like as if you had a choice to say you know what
i i just i don't want to step out they didn't even look at my driver's license really well i mean not
that they should you're just broken down but i'm saying if you were black they would have you out
of the car look at your driver's license they'd run your name do you have any warrants you know
it's a it's a me and my friend 40 i'm sorry me and my friend jermaine johnson now 40 we were driving no no no no no
that's your boy 40 no no he has white fans now so it's jermaine johnson i remember one time me
and jermaine johnson was driving from new york to dc right we was in a rental and um and uh
we were smoking but we went past this cop. Police pulled us over, right?
Police pulled us over, and, like, it was one of those, like,
I saw the lights going on, but I acted like I didn't know
what was going on for two exits because I was trying to get rid of the weed
and shit, and I remember I had just a little bit of weed,
and one of my friends, it was for Austin's baby shower,
he sent me this lotion,, this like lotion and thing
and I was like what am I doing with this weed, what am I doing with this weed
and I stuffed the motherfucker
weed inside the lotion, capped it back up
it wasn't even that much, you know
but I know they can be petty
and he pulled this over and
we went from just getting pulled over
what do you stop us for
you guys were driving social speed limit
whatever, right?
And this motherfucker, we didn't give him no signs that we were doing anything crazy.
And he was like, no, everything's going to be okay.
So you know when something's about to happen.
When the police car's behind you for like 15 minutes and 20 minutes.
And the next thing you know, we see like the state trooper motherfucker come.
Oh, the next guy comes?
The next guy comes. And then look, it was the next guy comes the next guy comes and then look
it was the next guy come
then you know
it was like
four different guys
that came
and they went through
they act like
we was like
fucking Nino Brown
and shit man
this motherfucker
waited
they brought the
goddamn dogs out
they brought the dogs
oh my god
they brought the dogs out
and I knew it was the setup
they was like
okay step outside the car
well I'm gonna have
this dog
it's trained for so and so
if the dog sits down right then we then we're going to check further.
It's so cold.
It don't matter what you tell me what the dog do.
He could have been like, if the dog shits, then whatever it was.
So the dog sat down.
Surprise, surprise, surprise.
They fucking ripped everything.
Everything opened and searched us
And then we didn't have fucking anything
So I didn't get the chance to experience white privilege
Nah
So was that the thing
Did that make you
Say fucking I'm getting
Getting over the weed selling life
Oh nah
You kept going?
Yeah
What made you stop?
I mean I got away
Oh 9-11 made me stop
because well i always i was always planning on just like getting out of it anyway i wasn't like
gonna because because people that i knew were just so greedy and just so insane and there's no end to
it right there's really no end to it you know i remember one time a guy asked me like yo if i gave
you like two million dollars right now would you stop selling weed forever? And I was like, yeah, of course.
And he's like, nah, not me.
I need like $7 million, some houses.
But you know what?
Some people like, and I know this particular, in my case, because my dad was a big heroin dealer.
And I know he had, in his drug dealing years and days, that he made enough money where he could say, I could just quit. But you know, the same way that you have addiction to using drugs,
I think people that's in that life get an addiction to making that type of
money.
It's hard to get away from.
It's easy money for some people.
It's really easy money.
Like that's what I'm saying.
You look at me and you're like,
what you did that.
It's like,
bro,
I had to talk to like two people a week.
Yeah.
I've had,
when I was growing up,
I made a lot of money. When I was growing up, that was like, I know this sounds weird like two people a week. Yeah. I've had, when I was growing up, I made a lot of money.
When I was growing up,
that was like,
I know this sounds weird for some people listening,
but especially the black community.
And I know we should aspire to do other things,
but our heroes in our communities are a lot different than a lot of people.
Yeah.
Like the big dope dealer.
You thought that he was the man,
you know what I'm saying?
You wanted to,
you wanted to be like that.
When I was younger, I always
wanted
the lifestyle
of a hustler.
But
I did not want to deal with
the consequences of
the law getting involved with that shit.
I always wanted to be
the dope boy, but not selling dope.
That's why I'm kinda like,
comedy is not giving me the idea of,
I feel like a dope dude,
but I always wanted that,
the lifestyle was kinda cool,
like nice cars, nice chicks,
everybody looked up to you,
everybody respected you.
Because in the black community,
like even when it came to my dad,
I knew everything he was doing wasn't legal.
It was certain things that he had and he did.
I was like, this is not no regular motherfucker.
All right, yeah, right, you're into real estate.
I'm going to tell you a sign that I knew my father was.
Was he into real estate at all?
Did he like?
Probably so.
Yeah. Probably so. It can be a good cover up. I know was was he into real estate at all did he like probably so yeah
probably so it can be a good cover-up i know people that got into real estate but
i remember when i went to his house because him and my mom were not living together i went to
his house in lanta maryland and this was like a long time ago when video arcades were like popping
the video arcade shit and everybody wanted to be able to go to the video arcade to play the games.
And I was like, this motherfucker on the next level.
Because this motherfucker had in his house a Ms. Pac-Man machine.
Oh, shut up.
I'm talking about the one that you.
Silver spoon shit.
Son, the one that you sit down, the one that was at Pizza Hut, son.
Like a table.
The table joint.
He had two of them, and he had the motherfucking asteroid joint.
I was like, I don't give a fuck.
Where did this nigga get this money for?
He is living fucking life.
My father was always living life, and my father always had chicks.
And I said this on another podcast.
Why is it that some of the good women, the church women, be attracted to the bad boys.
Because if you look at the way
my mom was raised
and how opposite they were,
my mother was a church girl.
You know what I'm saying?
She was in the church.
She was all about the school.
And my father was just
motherfucking cool ass,
dope dealing motherfucker.
But they had a connection.
But it's that philosophical thing of like, it's not all bad or not all good.
And as you know, some dope dealers are morally amazing people.
Like when the weather shuts down in Texas and electricity goes out,
there's probably some dope dealers out there that's giving away money.
John Gotti was one of those guys.
You know that he was into a lot of crazy stuff.
But Fourth of July, he did the fireworks for the neighborhood,
and he was like that neighborhood.
He was like the folk hero.
So where do we separate the line on who we respect as a people that we look up to?
Where do you draw the line?
What do you think you draw the line?
I think intention is a big part of it.
And really just critical thinking is so important right now. There's not a lot
of critical thinking in the world. People jump the gun on everything. It's like, oh my god.
He did what? I believe it. You know, it's so interesting that you'll know a person
like, it's so interesting because you go to these neighborhoods or whatever and you know
a person and the police say
he's this person but to the community
he's somebody totally
fucking different
and black people on a whole
get a quote unquote bad rep
in society
I grew up in Philadelphia I remember seeing the
move bombings
the move bombing
the Philadelphia police dropped a bomb on the move house,
and the perception on the news was all these, like, revolutionary,
you know, anti-government, you know, just all bad.
And then when I was older, I met, like, Ramona Africa
and some of these people, and you realize, whoa, shit.
You know what I mean?
We're all anti-government.
Why wouldn't I be anti-government?
They dropped a bomb on these people's houses.
Yeah, I know black people have a lot of reasons
why they would be anti-government
that we won't get into.
Yeah, but I mean, but to be fair,
like just to prove that I'm educated,
they're not anti-government as much as...
Oh, come on with the prove that you're educated.
I know you're educated.
They're anti-Zoo and shit like that.
They don't want... Is that the same as saying just to prove that I'm really white?
What does that mean, to prove that I'm...
I just don't want to sound ignorant when it comes to MOVE
because I feel like they're important, you know,
and I know that they do really valuable things for the community.
You know what? You got a heart.
Okay. You do too.
No, but I'm not...
It's not usually expected from somebody from Philly, son.
Yeah, but I mean, I'm not it's not usually expected from somebody from philly son because y'all are
some nasty people i'm not really i'm a suburbs kid yeah because you was like when black lives
matter was popping off you was masked up on your bike going out to the black lives matter
yeah what was what is your connection i'm just curious why do you because you could a lot of
people could when the black lives matter thing a lot of white people could have fell back like
i'm just let these people figure this out themselves. What made you so compelled to be supportive of everything that the Black Lives Matter movement meant?
I mean, for me, like, I've always, like, I would listen to Public Enemy when I was a kid.
So I was always, like, absorbed in.
You ever had a black girlfriend?
Yeah.
Not a black girlfriend, but I've dated black girls.
I never, I've only had a few girlfriends.
What's your definition of dating?
Some people think dating is dating, but it's not really.
Dating is fucking. You fucked a few girlfriends. What's your definition of dating? Some people think dating is dating, but it's not really dating. It's fucking.
You fucked a black girl.
Yeah.
Why are you nervous about it?
I never asked you this question,
so I asked you the difference for me.
What's the difference?
What is it like?
I know this is crazy,
but did you,
did you,
what,
like,
what was it?
What's the difference?
Yeah. Between white girls and black girls? Yeah. I think, as far as my experience goes, black what, like, what was it? What's the difference between white girls and black girls?
Yeah.
I think, as far as my experience goes, black women are, like, wilder.
What?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Who is this black chick?
She must have grew up around white chicks.
Wilder than Amy, Becky?
No fucking way.
We might be on to something, Donnell.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, seriously.
Maybe white women are more crazy with you because you're black.
I'm pretty sure. And then black women are more crazy with me too because i'm white i'm
let me tell you i'm dark-skinned and i understand the whole jungle fever thing but just something
that's more intense about that color contrast this would be a good time to put up that poster
of jungle fever right i don't know not you know i'm saying that that's against anything but
it's something about that color contrast that night night and day, that yin and yang.
It's just like bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
But you're telling me that you think black chicks were more wild?
For me, yeah.
But maybe they just had something to prove.
Maybe they wanted to make sure because they're fucking a white dude, they want to make sure to put it down.
Just like if a white girl is with you, she wants to make sure, oh, I gotta let them know white chicks go down,
you know, get down.
I know that I'm about to be really graphic right
now. Get it. I know this is, we don't have a sponsor
this episode, and I can say whatever
fuck I want to say.
Here comes that viral.
I remember when I had the fever.
Right? Somebody said, what is it?
I was like,
you have no idea.
This one sentence would have me fucked up
for like a year.
I want your big black cock.
What? What?
Yo, son, son,
son, son,
I'm just being honest. I've never heard that uttered out of the
mouth of a black chick I will listen to what I said and all the bees in it big black cock and
it was at the end of it son and to be honest I didn't even know I had a big black cock son I'm
like well bitch if that's what you want to call it then that's what it is that should have had me done that should have me done because black chicks ain't going to say
the word cock no no never never cock dick yeah but cock I remember one time I was dating this
black chick and I don't know I guess because I was coming off my fever days right and I kept using the word cock and sentences in the bed right I kept with the courage and I work out
and she was like this she's so she said okay I get it I get it you have a cock I was like yeah
but you're not saying it where did that word origin where did that come I don't know I don't
know that's a good question That's a good question.
What's the origin of it? Should I look it up?
Yeah, look it up. Origin of the word cop.
Who invented the word cop? Damn, man.
I was trying to be... You know what,
Derry? This is so wrong.
Because I wanted this podcast to be more mature.
Right? I wanted us
to talk about the topics that
troubled the world. I didn't know
that we'd have a conversation where
I had you looking up the word cockpaws.
But people need escapism,
man. People need to get away. Escapism.
People need to get away from the fucking troubles of the world.
You know, they need to laugh and have, they need to hear.
You know how you get away from the world, the troubles
of the world? When you hear big black cock.
Exactly. I'm saying all of your troubles.
When you hear that, all your
troubles are gone. But do you think it's good? I'm trying to change. I'm trying to your troubles. When you hear that, all your troubles are gone.
But do you think this is good?
I'm trying to change the image, but I want to talk about,
are you really looking up?
What are you looking up?
The origins of the word cock?
It definitely would be like no results. If you do it on Urban Dictionary, nothing's going to pop up.
Oh, it comes from a bird, obviously.
A bird.
Come on, Terry.
Come on.
I'll just tone your white down right now.
There you go.
See, what is the etymology of the word cock penis?
Right.
All right.
This is what we're looking for.
We're doing research.
It's a fun.
One guy in a comment wrote, rises in the morning.
That doesn't give us a definition.
I know.
And this is, I want everybody that's listening right now to understand this is a mature conversation.
This is the growth of the Don Air Rollins show. You went from white privilege to big black cock real fast.
No, we went to white privilege.
We went to Black Lives Matter to big black cock.
And now we're at the point where we're trying to find out the origins of the word cock.
This does not represent the maturity level or the growth of Donair Rollins.
Because Donair Rollins has turned into, did you know this, Deary?
What?
Did I do an Instagram live early morning, right?
I love it.
It's a good thing.
It's a good place because people get to live vicariously through me.
Some people call me weird because they're like, wait a minute, you're up at 6 o'clock in the morning.
Some people are of the notion that you never went to sleep.
I have went to sleep, but I wake up.
I wake up very early, and I make these treks early in the morning.
And I try to take people to places.
I've been having people from Australia, England, Africa that chime in.
And then what I'm finding out is that for some reason when I do these shows,
I always wake up feeling funny.
And when I go in on these these lives i want to be funny but for some reason i
don't know what it is that every morning there's something that happens that's dark or just shifts
the entire gears of the direction i wanted to go because i want everybody to be happy go lucky
like the other morning i did one and this guy called and he was talking about the relationship
he had with his baby mama.
You know what a baby mama is, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Definition, tell me.
Baby mama, woman that you're in a relationship with, have a baby, but don't stay in a relationship with her.
But, you know, a relationship.
Most baby mamas don't start in a relationship.
Oh, okay.
The Urban Dictionary is somebody you smash.
Unfortunately, you had a kid with them them but you reap the benefits of producing
and bringing a beautiful human being into this world so it's kind of like a good bad yeah baby
a lot of people don't like to use the term but it's all type of baby moms like my brother my
middle brother i've talked about this on podcast before educated guy brown university georgetown
law and um his baby mama he doesn't like that. He likes to use the term the mother of my child.
Which one are you talking about?
My baby mama.
I think baby mama is like kind of negative because usually when you say the
word baby mama, it's something negative.
Like I can't stand my baby mama.
I never saw it as negative, but now that you said that,
I can see it as negative because you're like, I just smashed this chick.
Yeah.
And now, but we have a baby.
Now she's my baby mama.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to be friendly to her.
You have to be friendly if you want to get smashed.
You have to be friendly if you want somebody to experience the big black cock.
Everyone does that.
No, I was saying because they're raising your child.
What do you mean?
Because there's the mother of your child.
So you want to be nice to the mother of your child, right?
Here we go.
I mean, you don't.
Okay, let me tell you this.
We're getting off topic
Of the live
No this is not
Related to me
You said you want to be nice
To the mother of your child
I was saying
Generally speaking
Somebody would want to be nice
I wasn't saying you specifically
I think there are people
Out there that want to be
But circumstances
Circumstances
Exist where you can't.
I can imagine. Like you were saying,
there was a guy, you were on a live
with him, his baby's mama. Carry on.
That's because I think it fits, right?
Not baby's mama, his baby mother.
His baby mother. Yeah, he called her.
It was weird because the young dude,
he was like, yeah, man.
This is what he started off with.
He said, my baby mama is retarded.
Right?
Yeah.
And if I was a person that had issues with a baby mama, I would have automatically agreed.
And I shut him off immediately.
I was like, that's unfair to say.
We don't know anything about it.
Retard is a very insensitive uh non-politically correct term it's an easy
term it's an easy term but then but then my ass said what did the bitch do right
no i didn't say that but because i didn't want to jump the gun and just assume that
whatever the situation was it was her right? And for whatever story you have, there's always another side of the story.
And I said, what makes a retard?
He was like, he went on and on.
He was like, yeah, man, she out there getting it popping.
Still didn't pick sides.
I was like, usually when a guy, a lot of times when a guy says their baby mother is crazy,
it's probably for a reason.
It's probably because we do force
women into that psychotic state
and then we want to pull back and say
we had nothing to do with it. That bitch crazy.
Why is she crazy? Because I came in, I was supposed
to come home on Tuesday. I came home three days later
with condoms in my pocket and
my face looked like a clown. I had lipstick
all over myself she crazy
i don't know what she thinking you know but i gave the benefit of the doubt but i needed to know more
come to find out he said yeah she slept with her sister's boyfriend i was like damn that's still not enough he said and she fucked 50 guys and i'm like where did you find
this information i was like this sounds like some maury povich shit you know what it was
a relationship that found out the uh uh status of if this kid is his or not through more he was
actually on the maury povich show he he was actually on the maury povich show
he was he was on the maury povich show wait you're not the father maury povich he was on the
i felt like this like when it comes to and it's always how many of these bitches name these babies
tatiana because every time they come up with results it's like tatiana might not be the first
name but it's in there somewhere when it comes to Janita Tatiana Nakina
Smith
when it comes to Tatiana
April Jones
when it comes to
when it comes to
give me another black name
when it comes to
Jermaine Johnson
son I'm still good with the Tatianas
but it's like it's always some time.
You are.
And he was.
And the thing about it was, I was like, how do you get to the point where you have to go on the show to figure it out if somebody's a thot or not?
But when I was talking to him, he seemed like a genuine kid.
You know what I'm saying?
He seemed like a kid.
But I said, I can almost, I don't know if this is crazy to say, but I almost could feel that relationship.
I was like, well, usually when you're a thought like that, it's learned behavior.
It's because it's something or images that you see, right?
And I said that, it sounded, not even knowing the backstory, I said, this sounds like it could possibly be a situation where mom is a thot too.
And this motherfucker said, her mother is worse than her.
I was like, God damn.
So mom is out there thotting.
She gives these thot images to her daughter.
She turns it through a thot.
And this kid had a young daughter.
Her daughter was four months old, right?
And then he was saying to himself, he's like, you know, I get on the weekends, but I'm thinking about trying to get full custody.
And I don't care. I don't think it's always a case where a kid needs to be with the father.
But in this case, I really felt, I was like, yo, bro, listen to me. Listen to me closely. Do
everything. Make sure you got a support group. Because if you're going to go to court and try
to get full custody of this kid, it's not just going to be you what's your support base who's going to help you with it right this situation
because i told him your life is going to immediately change if you're going to be that
full-time dad that has 100 custody and i've seen some guys do it it's a tough thing because most
of the time men want to be free they want to be able to do what they want when they want but you
got a responsibility of raising the kid 100 of the time your life is going to change right and i said it's important for you to get that door do everything you can get
your daughter because obviously there's a cycle there's a cycle and i don't understand i could
not see how she was going to skip that cycle when mommy was like that grandma was like that
and even with that said he never felt he never said the only thing he called this was Skip that cycle. When mommy was like that, grandma was like that.
And even with that said, he never said the only thing he called it was retarded.
I don't agree with that. But I do understand that some people have a certain lifestyle and they are used to a certain thing and they see something and then that's what they favor growing up.
Was he on Maury Povich, This Is Not Your Daughter?
All those shows are the same thing.
But did he take the test?
Yeah, he took the test.
Oh, okay, so he is the father.
He is the father, you know what I'm saying?
But I don't know.
You know why people think that their relationship is going to be salvaged?
Like, they be like, what are you going to see?
You're going to see.
What you going to do?
Well, if it's my kid, I'm going to be responsible. I'm going to take care of the thing. I'm going to do what you're going to do well if it ain't my baby if it's my kid i'm going to
be responsible i'm gonna take care of the thing i'm gonna do my responsibility as a man a lot of
times people think being responsible as a man is just the financial support and it's more than that
you know i'm saying you can give a kid all the money you want whatever but if she doesn't have
the right guidance and i knew in her in his situation or their her situation that there wasn't a father figure around there anywhere.
There wasn't a father figure in grandma's life.
There wasn't a father figure in mama's life.
And I was like, don't be the guy that's not a father figure in this kid's life.
And I told him, I said, you've got to save this girl.
You know, it's as tough as it may sound.
You've got to save this girl.
And I think that if you go to court, he'll be able to justify that.
You got to.
So why don't you think that she's good to raise this kid?
Your Honor, let's go to the videotape.
You've been with 50 guys.
If it comes down to, like, what Maury said that's going to salvage your relationship,
your relationship is already fucking dead.
If you see all these possibilities, well, I said we just got this that this that date that date but I'm sure it's yours
okay you hit what you consider the bullseye
it is that's right
it's your baby it's your baby what you gonna do
I'm like bitch I'm leaving you
if I gotta go to Maury Povich
to find out the status
of if this kid is my kid or not
then that relationship is fucking
fucking dark as shit
white people don't deal with that
as much, dude. Yeah, they do. Oh, yeah. Definitely.
Like, yeah, white trash shit, you know? Like,
you know,
yeah, white trash shit.
Do you ever, we talked about this before,
do you ever think about being a dad?
Yeah, I think about it.
For sure. It's just,
you know,
it's just, I think I'm, what's the word?
I'm thinking about it too much.
Shooting blanks?
No, I might be shooting blanks.
Who knows?
But I'm just thinking about it.
Like, I'm precautious.
I'm precautious because I want to be, like, aware.
I don't want to just, like, blast off and, oh, I'm pregnant.
I want to be, like. But you're married, son. No, I know. But I want to be,. I don't want to just blast off and, oh, I'm pregnant. I want to be like.
But you're married, son.
No, I know, but I want to be secure and own a house or something.
You know what I mean?
Nah, nigga, let me tell you this, son.
You got gray hair, son.
Don't do that, son.
You got gray hair, son.
Somebody told me once that I know that white people, you know what?
I'm not just trying to discredit you or whatever, but it's a lot of planning.
Like, okay, I need this, I need that.
But somebody said one thing about kids,
they make you work harder for what you need to do to support them.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying to go up there and just keep busting shots or whatever,
but, you know, I think.
It's like, you know, Idiocracy, the movie Idiocracy.
No, I don't.
The Mike Judge movie.
I hung out with Mike Judge. What's movie. I hung out with Mike Judge.
What's that?
I hung out with Mike Judge.
I know.
I saw that.
That's why.
Yeah, you should check out his movie Idiocracy because it's basically, at this point, it's
a documentary.
Right.
But it's about how there's a group of people that are like, oh, I don't know.
Basically, he's saying intelligent people think too much and then they don't have a kid, while
dumb people are just having kids all day long.
They're just like, hey, let's have some
fucking drinks together.
You know, and then they have 12 kids.
You know who did that too and didn't miss out on kids?
Who dat?
Bitches is too positive.
Oh, yeah.
The ones that I'm not saying that
don't go for it.
But they're too picky.
They're picky.
Yeah, picky.
And then it's like, well, I need this and I i do that not to say lower your standards or anything like that but i know so many women that they so of the belief that i don't need a man for nothing
i can do this a man can't do this a man can't do that and then as time goes on and on they start
getting older that clock starts to ticking and then they're like, huh, maybe I should have.
Not to tone it down, but, like, you do need a man for something.
Well, now you don't.
You can just buy that shit.
You know what I mean?
If you really, if you have the money.
What?
Yeah.
You can buy pregnancy.
You know, it's interesting that you said that because it really made me, like, before I had Austin, and I was getting up in age where I started being content with the idea that I might not have kids.
And if you don't come to that point where you're comfortable with it, it will drive you crazy.
I was like, you know what?
I got nieces.
I got nephews.
I got a career.
And, like, for me, I've said this before.
I ain't even know if I could hit a bullseye, son.
Right.
I know the feeling.
I don't even know, son.
I know the feeling.
Because Stephanie told me she was pregnant.
I was like, by who?
I was like, by who?
You're ready to go on more.
Yeah, I was ready.
No, not ready to go on more, but just because I haven't had a –
when I was younger, I got those scares.
When I was younger, I was very – when I was younger, I was kind of wow.
And I had situations where, man, I know I'm not alone when I say this, boy,
but I would have had some goddamn kids.
I mean, I assumed that was the case.
I would have.
Right.
It was me being young.
It was me being with women that weren't ready for that responsibility.
I was not ready for a kid.
Then as I got older, I kept saying to myself, what if?
What if?
And I had to rule that out because the what if didn't happen.
And I thought I was out the baby-making situation.
And then I got blessed.
I got blessed with Austin.
I got blessed with Austin at an older age,
especially for the black community.
Motherfuckers be hitting you hard.
You get to a black community,
you get to like the old age of 30 with no kids,
they be like, what the fuck are you waiting for?
They like, what the fuck are you waiting for, man?
Old ass motherfucker. And then i don't know
one thing about being an older dad is like i think sometimes uh you think you alone you think it's
like oh they're gonna be making fun of me on the playground i'm the only old head everybody else
got fucking hairlines you got gray hair and shit that's why if you're gonna be an older dad you
gotta get a lot of white friends because yeah white people be yeah white people like when i used to take my son
to daycare people yo everybody had gray hair but that bitch because they like you they waited
they waited for um the right opportunity and i always thought i was alone and to be quite honest dearie i was kind of somewhat embarrassed by it by not having kids
no having an old dad being an older dad old dad's embarrassing you know you know it's kind of
embarrassing because you know the difference is like i can't even talk to the people i went to
high school with about fatherhood the way they know it because their kids are in college and
shit my kid my their kids in med school and my son is in preschool.
That's hilarious.
And then, like, but I'm going to tell you, it wasn't this moment,
but I remember when I was in Yellow Springs, David Letterman,
Dave Chappelle did an interview with David Letterman for Netflix, right?
So the next day, David Letterman came to,
I didn't know he was coming to our show.
And I went on stage and I was doing my routine
and I do have a joke about being an older dad
how when I had Austin's first birthday party
I called my friends and said
could they show up to the birthday party
and it was like well if my son can get out of work
it was a funny joke
but I didn't know it resonated
with so many people
but I did my show, didn't know Letterman
was backstage I get off stage resonated with so many people. But I did my show. Didn't know Letterman was
backstage. I get off stage
and I don't give a fuck. David
Letterman is a powerful presence.
When you look at David Letterman, you look at
one of the best
dudes to ever do late night TV.
One of the guys that probably had
a fucking dope ass life.
Did everything. Smashed all the
chicks at work before me too.
He had to slow that shit down.
You know what I mean?
And then,
you know what I mean?
Because they all did it.
They all like,
hey.
I think he got in trouble for it.
Hey, you want a job?
You want to be my secretary?
Get it?
Secretary.
But when I got off stage,
I went in the back
and I was like,
oh shit,
I'm looking at David Letterman
right in his face.
And the first thing he looked at me, he towers over me because David Letterman is like 6'4", 6'5".
And Letterman said, how old are you?
And I told him how old I was, and he was like, how do you feel?
I said, I feel good.
He said, you think you should have did it earlier?
And it was so dope that me and David Letterman are backstage having a conversation about being older dads.
And then I was, not that I'm
on the level of the financial success
David Letterman has gotten over the years,
but I said to him, I said,
you know,
get to a certain level of success in this business
and I know he's looking at me, what the fuck are you talking about?
I say,
and you look at all the things that you've done
in your life and you realize
being a father is the greatest thing you've done or the greatest thing you could have done and to
be backstage sitting back talking to david latman about all things i could have said how do you like
my set i never mentioned that shit right i never mentioned any of that shit only thing we talked
about was being older dads and how much that we appreciated
and how much it changed your life.
It's just like some sense of calm,
a sense of peace, and for some part,
it's a sense of accomplishment.
Because you can get all the success you want.
Do you ask yourself, okay, I'm going to be out of here.
Who am I going to share it with?
Who am I going to pass it down to?
Who am I going to pass it down to?
Do I want my legacy, whatever it is,
or my name to continue?
And that was the beauty of it for me.
And then David Letterman, he saw my stand-up.
And this might be featured in Dave Chappelle's documentary.
He went on stage, him and Dave was on stage, you know, cracking jokes back and forth.
And he said, Donnell is money in the bag.
And you know I don't have a gay bone in my body but when he said that i was like yes but it made me really it made me really appreciate
being an older dad because i always say the advantage that my son has me being an older dad is that he gets granddad
and dad in one
motherfucker. You know what I mean?
I have the
energy of
a 20-something year old,
30-something year old dad,
right? But I have the patience
of a granddad,
which means that I keep snacks.
I don't try to.
All that right from wrong shit.
You keep a little bowl of candy?
I'm old school some Werther's.
Some Werther's man.
Werther's a grand.
Yo it's like.
Oh shit.
This old nigga got the Werther's.
You don't get Werther's from young dads.
You get now and laters.
You get Cheetos and shit.
But Werther's man. And kids know you coming out that Werther's. You don't get Werther's from young dads. You get now and laters. You get Cheetos and shit. But Werther's, man.
And kids know you coming out with that Werther
because that pocket be rattling and shit.
Like, I'm not going to argue with him too much.
If we get to a point where it's a decision,
how do I get this kid to shut the fuck up?
I know how.
Werther.
Exactly.
It's Werther's shot.
By the way, did you ever, speaking of David Letterman,
did you ever get to audition to do a stand-up spot on
the Letterman show? No, I didn't because
when I was coming up,
when I came up
in comedy, I wasn't in that
mainstream circuit. I would
say probably the first three or four years of my
career, I was doing the Chitlin circuit.
I was doing them
underground spots to get you
popularity in the black community
But the industry might not have known who you were
I'll give you a perfect example
Cat Williams
Cat Williams in the black community is a dope ass comedian
Everybody know him
He had a fucking run where he was selling arenas
And everything
And white folks did not know who the fuck he was
I'll give you another example
He never did a late night spot another he never did a late night spot
right he never never did late night he never did david he never came through he came through through
the def jam era which was the platform for a lot of black comics to get the notoriety that they
hadn't seen anywhere other than the night nightclubs another person that um went that similar
route and was met with a lot of frustration. Bernie Mac.
Bernie Mac has always been the beast.
Bernie Mac used to do a night at the Cotton Club.
They would rival any club in the country.
He was hot.
He was getting older.
He was a vet, right?
But he wasn't getting the respect from mainstream.
I mean, I think they even started a campaign,
and everybody was like, where the fuck is Bernie Mac's show?
But then Bernie Mac teamed up with the WB, if I'm not mistaken.
Wasn't that work then?
Yeah.
And then he teamed up with a super dope showrunner
by the name of Warren Hutchinson.
Warren Hutchinson was a guy out of Baltimore, Maryland.
He was really, really popular in the 90s,
but his trajectory to success, he was more,
he was a good performer,
but he was more of a writer and a showrunner.
And that's when he came up with the Bernie Mac show.
And that's when the world got to see him.
But the black community saw him way, way before that.
You know, you didn't come up,
you weren't around in the Def Jam era, right?
I was,
nah, not really.
Nah, I was doing my own thing. Up Sirens.
Do you know, do you remember when Def Jam popped off? Vaguely.
I was really unplugged
from entertainment,
society. Yeah, I was
heavy into like nature and psychedelics.
I'm into nature now like 20 years later.
I love that. No, it's great.
It's never too late, you know.
But it was interesting coming up in that era
because as popular as the black comedy scene was,
we still wanted some sort of validation
from mainstream.
Right.
So where were you when it first kicked off,
when the Def Jam stuff first kicked off?
How old were you and how long were you doing comedy or were you doing comedy?
I probably was, when Def Jam hit, I probably was like mid-20s, early 20s.
You were already doing comedy?
Yeah, I was doing comedy for a short period of time.
In fact, when I made Def Jam, I had only been doing comedy for six months.
Oh, really? Oh, man, I had only been doing comedy for six months. Oh, really?
Oh man, I came out the gate so on fire.
Anybody that knew me
coming up when I first
started doing comedy, I was like
way ahead of my time. Wow.
I was like, I made it,
I got the audition in six months and I was recording
it at nine months.
And then at my 12th month, almost a year
of doing comedy, I was on Def Jam.
Wow.
I mean, you're a natural.
Like, your style is.
Have you ever had a bad set?
I've never seen you have a bad set.
I don't acknowledge bad sets.
I have different definitions of what a bad set is.
What's your version of a bad set?
My version of a bad set is usually when I have a bad set, people don't know it.
You know, I'll be feeling bad on the inside.
People are like, I have my own personal standards.
And I could have a set where I'll say zero to ten.
I was like a five.
And people are like, oh, shit, that was fantastic.
But I'm really critical of my set.
I'm like, some people bomb where they just black out.
The jokes are horrible.
But the time that I've bombed,
it's been because like,
the lighting was fucked up.
Or people couldn't hear me.
Or I was in a fucking
go hard ass,
ghetto ass club
and my mic was low.
I wasn't at the advantage.
But straight up just bombing
because you were whack.
I don't know how many times I've had that
situation. This is what I call it.
I say
I have sets that weren't as funny as
the other sets.
And why is that? Is it usually
more sirens? What do we got now?
That sounds like a fire truck. See look, you're being
inquisitive. You want to know. I'm looking like, oh shit
sounds like police to me. Nah, it's a firetruck any sirens represent police to me what were you saying
i was saying um yeah i was just wondering because i know it's the same with a lot of people i know
like comics i've seen they'll get like tons of laughs it'll seem like they're doing great and
then you'll hear them afterwards say to their friend like i fucking bombed that was fucking
horrible and yeah because your standards are different from what the audience expect right
you know i'm saying you expect to get the uh to get the laughs respect to get the connection but
that doesn't necessarily mean we connect i've been with chappelle before where i'm like oh shit he
was like i wasn't feeling that one you know it happens to it happens to the best of them but
you've never had a set where it's just straight up,
like you're doing your best shit and it's just quiet?
Yeah, I've had those sets.
Oh, okay.
But I've had those sets.
Not too often, and they fucking,
the worst is when you think your energy is a certain place,
and you're like, oh, man, I'm about to kill these.
I got this 30 minutes I'm about to kill them with. And then
you get comfortable. That's another thing.
Not expecting what can happen.
You get comfortable like, when I do this joke, this
always happens.
And I remember I had a show
where I was like, I'm about to kill them with this shit.
This is my opening shit. It's fire.
They was like, get that shit out of here.
So what I thought was 30 minutes
got trimmed down to like 20 minutes and then they was like get that shit out of here so what i thought was 30 minutes got trimmed down to like
20 minutes and then they's like get that shit out of here and i never make excuses i never say it's
to audience right a lot of times i couldn't blame it on the audience i was like it's never the
audience i do believe as a comedian it's never the audience you have to figure out a way to
entertain them and get them but i've had those sets that started off to be 30 minutes, got cut down. I'm like, oh, shit.
They just took five minutes
of my heart and soul of this goddamn
show. What the fuck am I going to do now?
And a lot of comedians, when that happens,
you can tell when somebody's about to take one, because you
start hearing this shit right there. How long y'all been
married? Yeah, they start going to Calgary.
Yo, how long y'all been married? Oh, where'd you meet?
You like this, please, God.
Give me some improv. How long y'all been married? Oh, where'd you meet? You like this. Please, God, give me some improv.
How long y'all been married?
Oh, y'all work together.
Oh, look at this motherfucker.
Let me tell you something.
In the black community, here's the number one segue that can get you out of any situation, son.
This thing with these tight-ass jeans.
Oh, yeah.
Tight-ass jeans?
Tight-ass jeans will give you enough time to get. It's like, you know how somebody box and they get hit and they got to get up against the ropes to get their composure?
Tight-ass jeans will get you like, oh, shit, them jeans is tight.
It'll give you enough time to think about it.
And what, tight-ass jeans?
And another one, too, give it up for the ladies.
Yo, that's another one to get you. Get out the ladies. Ladies are good tonight. Give it up to the ladies yo that's another one to get you out
ladies are good tonight give it up to the
god damn ladies that can get you out of the situation
but once all that
shit fucking goes
the worst thing is this is what we're so trained to do
as comedians like and I
never understood why people say this at the end of their show
they be like you guys have been great
right no matter what
I'm like, no.
They were shitty to you right now.
Where the fuck you got these guys have been great?
What's the hardest crowd?
If you could think of, you know.
What the hardest crowd has been for me?
For you, yeah.
I will say one of the toughest crowds I've had was it was in the village.
And this was the time where I got on anybody's stage.
Whatever theme was, I went.
And it was a gay club. Like a gay club like feel like lesbians right there's one of them joints like it's less than a chick I knew she invited me
there right I've never felt the hate that I felt with these women and these
were the type of dykes that hate dick like they would break out in hives if you even mentioned
big black cock because the only big black cock they'd notice if it's a strap on right you know
i got a big black cock they pull out one too i got a big black cock too but it was one of the
one of the shows in my career where i was like it was nothing i could have said that would have won them over.
It was nothing.
They were the mean dykes.
You know what the mean dykes are.
So you didn't do that well that night?
You didn't do well that night?
I noticed.
You're not going to believe what I'm about to say?
I bombed.
I bombed.
I bombed so bad.
I don't know if I ever told this.
Did I ever tell a story about Lance Bass?
Is it a story about you bombing?
No.
Jay Davis is a promoter here, right?
Yeah, I know Jay.
He had this show at the Pink Taco, right?
He used to have hot shows too.
Yeah, he always had hot shows.
He had bad bitches.
He had porno bitches there.
He just had, it was just, he used to have the hottest shit out.
He's a great, great producer of creating a good vibe.
So he was having these shows at the Pink Taco.
And this was right at a time when it was this NBA player that came out and said he was gay, right? And it was just like all these people, J. Williams, I can't remember his name.
But all of these guys was coming out with, I'm gay, I'm gay, right? And it was just like all these people, J. Williams, I can't remember his name, but all of these guys
was coming out with,
I'm gay, I'm gay, I'm gay.
And I thought people
was just saying that
just because it was
something popular
to talk about or whatever.
So, and I was just,
this is a funny,
this is a funny thing
to make a transition
from doing black shows
and white shows.
When the gay shit was popping,
when this coming out
the closet shit was popping,
I could go to this black club because there was so much in the news, everybody is saying they're gay
coming out the closet.
And I came out at Jay's show at the Pink Taco, I said, God damn!
Is everybody motherfucking gay?
And it was like a little ha ha ha.
I'm like, every motherfucker's coming out the closet.
I was like, how big is the closet?
Are they coming out of Kim Kardashian's closet?
Because that's a big closet.
Nothing.
I did.
But I was already in my zone, dearie, of doing these fucking crazy-ass gay jokes.
So I did not stop.
I kept going with them.
And then the next thing I'd know I was like is everybody gay
and they were just like standoffish
so I'm like you about to get out of here
I about to hit the whole dairy
I went to this
so where you guys from how long y'all been together
I'm trying to get out of this shit
ladies look good none of that shit work
and it was bad because
Jay the worst thing to do is when you bomb
and the motherfucker give you the light, you're like this.
I think I could save myself.
Wasn't happening.
He gave me the light.
I got off the stage.
And normally when I get off the stage, I'm used to walking down the aisle and people are like, good set.
Good set.
Yo, them motherfuckers was like this, son.
They was turning their head.
And usually I go to the bar, somebody offered me a drink.
Nothing.
None of that happened.
But the funny thing about it was,
I did my shit, right?
And I bombed.
And then,
Brett Riley went up,
and he murdered.
He murdered.
He like,
murdered the room.
And I remember him being at night i went to the bar
and nobody was being friendly me with anything i was like yeah it's time for me to get the
fuck up out of here right and i left and i ran into brett rowley um about two weeks later
i said yeah remember that show we did a pick talk-up talk? He said, yeah. I said, word on the streets was they didn't really like me.
And he said, they didn't.
What I didn't know that night, the crowd was like 75 people.
What's the guy?
The guy I was talking about earlier.
Lance Bass., Lance Bass.
Not Lance Bass.
What's the motherfucker?
Lance Bass, right?
I don't know.
Yeah, Lance Bass.
Am I saying it right?
He's from NSYNC?
Yeah. Okay.
Lance Bass.
What I didn't know was that when I was looking at the audience, I was like,
is everybody getting around this motherfucker?
It was Lance Bass.
60 people there.
Lance Best was celebrating his birthday with 45 people.
Right.
So I was like, Jay, I was like, why didn't you fucking give me a warning, right?
He was like, I said, they didn't really like me.
He said, they didn't.
I was like, how do you know?
He said, because they said it, right?
And he said, this one guy came up to him said we really enjoyed your comedy and you took some
chances but they didn't even give me a name but they said but the black guy
yo they call me black they said but the black guy they said he just kept going on and on
and on but it taught me a lesson is that you're only as good as your last
fight and you don't know what might have worked that's why you can't get in the
habit of knowing something's gonna rip what worked before might not work then
and I was very precautious on how I would enter a show after that like don't
assume that this is your fire shift and And if your fire ship is not working, you might have to shift your gears.
You know?
I think...
What's the hardest black room?
Back in the day?
Yeah, or in general.
Now, I don't really think that there are any super hard black rooms right now.
I mean, not for you, but...
In general, I don't think it's too much.
It's not the same.
It used to be tough?
What people considered was a tough room
was D-Ray's Monday Night, the Monday Night show.
That was considered a tough room.
I heard about shows where they would, like,
jiggle keys if you sucked.
Yo, I've heard about shows
where motherfuckers pull guns out, son.
But no, more better Mondays.
It was done here at the Improv. shows motherfuckers pull guns out so but now more better more better monies it was like it's like and
it was done here the improv one of the longest lasting uh urban shows you want to say i think
it had a run of like 25 years and this is the thing about some of the black rooms they get
tough because a lot of times it's such a spectacle it's on an off night and women love comedy so you get a lot of bad
chicks coming to the show so the guys most people aren't attracted to the show they're attracted to
uh to uh it being a hot spot they're attracted to like oh shit she got a fat ass or whatever
right right yeah that's tough yeah when people aren't there to see comedy it's it's hard they're
coming to see ass and then a lot of times you have these rooms, like when you have a black room, a lot of times people get connected to the host.
The host knows how to work the room so much that you get excited about the host more than anything.
And some people can make the room just about them.
Right.
So it doesn't matter who goes up.
It's going to be a tough situation.
That's like a lot of black rooms in in general it's like
the black audience they feel like this all right make me laugh you better make me laugh you got to
break them down and it's kind of it's a tough situation but you won't get no better gratification
and feel good is when a black room is on your side. Right. It's like as much as, some white guys won't fuck with it.
They're like, fuck that.
It's a waste of time.
But once you can get those orders,
that's what I respect about.
That's crazy.
I feel like it would be the best room
if you're a white comic
because it's such a genuine,
it's like you know they're.
It's a real deal.
They're on your,
they have to like you.
I remember when Bill Burr first started.
Right.
Bill Burr,
one thing I was so impressed about Bill Burr
was Bill Burr would rock all the rooms.
He was a complete comedian.
And for me, I came from the black circuit, but I always wanted to be able to go to a white comedy club, a mainstream comedy club, and not have to alter my set or anything, but deliver.
That's when you know you're at a good place where you don't have to switch your shit up, and you've got the type of material where it would kill anywhere.
Small rooms, big rooms, black rooms, mainstream rooms, underground rooms.
Funny story.
A CK story.
Louis CK story.
So I remember I had been on the road for a while doing a lot of shows with Dave Chappelle.
And that audience is predominantly white.
Like, you can guarantee that 85%, 90% of the audience is going to be white.
But I never want to get out of touch of where I came from.
So I would always come here on Monday.
I had good things, TV shows going on,
like stuff that I didn't have to do,
but when I come, it's just because I want to be able to connect with my people.
So I was like, yeah, what better night
than Mo' Better Mondays?
So I drove down here, right,
and I'm looking outside, and it felt weird
because I didn't see no Lambos outside.
I didn't see no motherfucking Bentleys.
I saw like Prius Toyotas and shit like that.
You know? And then I was like, what?
This shit feels different. So I pull up
to Valet. I forget his name. I call him Poppy.
So I was like,
I put out and say, Poppy. He was like, first thing he
ran up to me like, Poppy, Poppy,
no black night.
He was like,
I was like, what? He said, no black night.
I was like, what do you mean no black night? He said, no black comedy. And I was like i said what he said no black night i was like what do you mean no black night
he said no black comedy and i was like who is here tonight and then he showed me the list
he showed me the piece of paper louis ck and i said to myself oh that's my nigga right but
evidently louis louis ck is like one of those draws like if he called on any night and say
what's going on it's's Gays R Us.
He could bump the whole shit, right?
But I've never seen a motherfucker bump every black comedian in the city.
The only person I saw that day was Michael Collier.
Michael Collier had a purple suit on, right?
I don't even know what he was doing with that.
And I was like, oh, shit.
I was like, this motherfucker Louis C.K. fucking bumped an entire night.
He bumped Nick a night.
And I was like, and I'm a fan of his.
So I went inside, and it was so weird to go through those doors on a Monday
and see all these white people, right?
I was like, oh, shit, this motherfucker got some juice.
And I walked past, not the stage.
I walked in the back going over to the sound booth.
And then I was like, oh, shit.
And I wanted to so bad just yell out to Louis C.K.,
Black Lives Matter!
I was like, this is going to be so funny.
It was so interesting to me that I went outside the room.
I called Chappelle.
I was like, yo, son, Louis C.K. just fucking bumped nigga night, right?
I was like, yo, should, Louis C.K. just fucking bumped Nigga Night, right? I was like, yo, should I yell out Black Lives Matter?
He was like, man, that shit would be funny as shit, man.
But I didn't do it.
And then the next time I saw Louis C.K., I shared that story with him.
And he thought it was funny.
But I thought it was a get back for him because he said he remember one time when he was like really getting into doing the black rooms.
Right.
What happened was he went to Chocolate Sunday.
That was the Laugh Factory one.
Laugh Factory.
Now, Chocolate Sunday is a different animal.
Why?
Chocolate Sunday is like the kids that grew up with both parents.
You know what I'm saying?
Something different about Chocolate Sunday.
It was black, majority black, but it just had a different vibe.
It wasn't like Mondays was the hood.
So he got on his high horses like I could rip any black crowd, right?
Then he went from chocolate sundaes,
and then he came to Mo' Better Blues the next day,
and I think that's when he hated black people for like a week, son.
So I thought him coming back and bumping Black Knight was just a get back.
Like, I'll teach you motherfuckers not to fucking respect my shit.
But it was a funny story.
But I think it's like.
Have you ever rocked in front of like a hip hop group or at like a music night or anything like that?
That's pretty hard, right?
I did.
What was it?
DJ Green Lantern?
DJ Green Lantern.
I'm not mistaken.
This was an interesting show.
It was a show where, it wasn't Green Lantern.
I may be wrong.
It was a very popular DJ in New York that used to do these Asian nights.
Okay.
Right?
And it was just like them partying and everything.
And this was like, a rich bitch was popping and shit, right?
And they wanted to bring me on stage, right?
And there's all type of Asians in there, right?
And I just, I remember I went on stage and I started fucking rapping in Korean, son.
Oh, that shut it down.
Yo.
Oh, that would shut it down.
I don't know.
It was a mix.
It was curse words.
It was happy birthday.
It was all type of shit.
But I was doing it on beat and the motherfucker was like, oh, I go, I go. That was one type of shit. But I was doing it on beat, and the motherfucker was like,
oh, I go, I go.
That was one of those shows. I performed on all type of platforms.
Yeah.
You're 30 years in the game.
30 years in the game now.
I'm a samurai of this shit now.
But I believe in what makes you a a solid
comic is like i never really respected the comedians that only can work one crowd they only
perform on certain crowds everybody's not built for it but it's something to be said when you know
literally you just taking just give you a fucking audience and then you go work your shit it ain't
like okay how many black people there how many white people there is the asian night can you go work your shit. It ain't like, okay, how many black people there? How many white people there?
Is it Asian night?
Can you go in front of any audience and destroy that shit?
Can you, like, this is a phrase I always say.
Go hard or go home.
And that applies with anything in life.
Go hard or go home.
In life, you got to be ready to go hard.
I support that.
I support the fact that sometimes in the darkest moment, there's some light in it.
I respect the fact that you may see things one way, but it might be a bigger picture later.
And I'm so much of that notion.
A good friend of mine called me, and I'm going to end with saying this. This is what I mean when I say go hard or go home.
A good friend of mine called me and said, Donnell, I got some news to share with you.
I'm so excited. I was like, what, Donnell, I got some news to share with you. I'm so excited.
I was like, what?
She said, I got fired from my job.
And we both celebrated at the same time.
We was like, yes!
You know, you never know when the next thing in your life
is going to happen.
And this is like, I don't know,
words of encouragement or whatever, whatever,
but to people that are listening or watching right now that sometimes what you think are the worst things that could happen in your life could turn out to be the best things to happen in your focus. Stay motivated. Stay inspired. And remember this, the last words I'm going to say.
Donnie Rollins told you, go hard or go home.
That's the Donnie Rollins Show.
Thank you all for listening.
Peace. Thank you.