Donnell - I'm in Love with the Lotion!

Episode Date: March 2, 2020

From Marcy Projects to Hollywood, in Episode #014, Donnell has an educated conversation with formulation chemist, Angela Umello, to learn how he can finally go from Ashy to Classy. A joke could be too soon, but it could never be too soon for a funny observation. Special thanks to Mom, Angela Umello, @mfdaviddeery, @jivantaroberts, @hollywoodimprov --------------------------------------- Check out Donnell's upcoming tour dates coming to a city near you: http://www.donnellrawlings.com/whereisdonnellrawlings Like, Subscribe & Follow Donnell on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnXf59H6e99fQpWYM5uvEQw?sub_confirmation=1 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/donnellrawlingsofficial Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/donnellrawlings Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/donnellrawlings Website: http://www.donnellrawlings.com Hashtag: #donnellrawlings, #thedonnellrawlingsshow, #2soonwithdonnellrawlings, #toosoon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello? What's up, Ma? Can you hear me? Not much. Can you hear me? Yes. All right, so I'm calling. You know I got a podcast. You probably never listen to my podcast, right? Huh? You know I got my podcast. You never listen to my podcast, do you?

I don't. I don't. I gotta see how. Why you stuttering, Ma? Huh? Why you stuttering? What do you mean you gotta see how? I'm not stuttering. I I got to see how. Why are you stuttering, ma? Huh? Why are you stuttering? What do you mean you got to see how? I'm not stuttering. I just have to see how. So you never not listen to one episode of my podcast? What?

Don't. No, no, no, no, ma. You never listen to the Donnell Rawlings show. You know I'm your son, right? Da Woo. Oh, my God. I'm Donnell. I did listen to the Donnell Rawlings show.

Ma, you just called me Da Woo. I said, do you know who I am? You better stop. Where'd you listen to the Donnell Rollins show. Mom, you just called me Dawu. I said, do you know who I am? You better stop. Where did you listen to it? I listened to it when you talked about, I haven't listened to it. I listened to it when you talked about Kobe. I'm going to send you the links, Mom, okay? Okay.

Yeah. So here's my question. I had a formal uh chemist today and our top topic was lotion moisturizing and i kind of gave the backstory of how i was was when a kid when did you know that i would probably be ashy for the rest of my life oh lord god it's genetic it's genetic wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute you mean in my life. Oh, Lord have mercy. God, do you help with that? It's genetic. It's genetic.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You mean you're ashy too, ma? No. Oh, what do you mean? Your father has them ashy made. Oh!

My father was ashy. But he worked hard at them, though. He worked hard at doing what with them? Trying to get them smooth. Oh them? Trying to get them smooth. Oh, he tried to get them smooth. He needs some Mongogo oil or something. So he was, this is, okay, it makes sense now. The ash is from my dad.

That's right. So what did you used to do, knowing that I was ashy coming up, what type of regimen or what did you do to try to help me with my asheness? I said you better put that Vaseline on you, boy. We just had a conversation, Ma. You're not supposed to put Vaseline on black people like that unless they're going to get in a fight.

You can't use Lard. Do people really use Lard? In the old days. What? In the old days. In the old days wait a minute people use crisco and lard you know what i gotta i never shared this story but i remember one time um i smoked a joint ma okay and um my lips was getting like a little ashy. And I was going on stage, and I didn't have no chapstick. And I was like, oh, man, I can't do this.

And I know this is so wrong. I ordered some chicken wings. Yo, I ordered some greasy-ass chicken wings, Ma. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to be all right right now. I'm going to be all right right now. I'm going to be all right right now. We do, we do, and use what we got. We do what we do, and we use what we got. This is Donnie Arons.

Hey, Ma, I love you. I'm going to call you back. Ma. All right. Ma, you know my song, right? Huh? You know my song? I'm in love with the lotion.

You don't know that song, do you? I do. Don't you? You would. The person don't even listen to my podcast. I'm in love with the lotion. You don't know that song, do you? I do. Don't you? You would. The person don't even listen to my podcast. I'm in love with the lotion. My mama in love with the lotion like me, the Don Air Roller Show. Thank y'all.

I love y'all. Call you soon, man. Love you, baby. All right. Bye. Bye. Are we rolling? Are we rolling? Are we rolling?

What? What? Yes, baby. We out here, yeah, yeah, yeah For all you bitches that got a problem with niggas that's ashy and shit Just remember, niggas go from ashy to ashy I got your homie down, you know that bitch low to life About that, handshake we be like I'm in love with the Lushan I'm in love with the Lushan

I got it for the low low. I'm in love with the lotion. I'm in love with the lotion. I'm in love with the lotion. I got it on the low low. I'm in love with the lotion Now Rima, hit my mayas with the coco Ha! Hit my feet and them elbows Ha! Don't miss a spot, that's a no no I press enter with my coco

I don't know the words to my own song. Get ready to bring it down. Keep it right there. Oh, look at you, my baby mother. I know nothing but sex elbows. Cocoa butter, I got cocoa butter. Cocoa butter, I got cocoa butter Cocoa butter, I got cocoa butter Moisturize, nigga I'm using lotion fast, nigga

I'm getting rid of ash, nigga I'm in love, bring me down, bring me down Bring me down Bring me all the way down I gotta turn this song. This song gets me so excited. This song, the stuff that I did, you don't know me in there, as you always are in almost all of my projects.

And what's the original artist? OGT Genesis. OGT Genesis. did a I'm in love with the cocoa yes cocoa meaning cocoa like yeah and I just every once a while I'll do a parody video not because I'm trying to be weird out Yankee bitch or anything just because something inspire me when I hear I'm in love with a cocoa I was like I'm in love with the cocoa but at a different level I'm in love with the cocoa. I was like, I'm in love with the cocoa, but at a different level. I'm in love with the cocoa butter.

I got cocoa butter. So I did the spoof of that. It was very funny. Hopefully we don't get no type of copyright infringements or anything like that. It is a spoof. And I didn't, I'm not saying I got full endorsement, but after I did that video, I ran into, after I did that video, all right, can we explain what's going on? The frame. I was telling him to pull out on the frame.

Can we pull out on the frame? Yeah. This is what we call it. This part of the production, like, you know, our show is real. Pull out on the frame. It was almost an opportunity for you to put up another picture, which I'm thinking the streets really, y'all miss. All these goddamn pictures fell off, and she was bop, bop, bop, bop, bop,

with great sweatpants. Is that all you? Yes. Yes. So, I mean, I did the video. You know, OG Genesis, he came up under the um under uh buster rhymes and i saw a bus buster rhymes and i was wondering if he you know how he felt about his song he said yo asher you a silly y'all y'all he was like whatever that was but i did that video for a reason

because a lot of people don't think that i'm in love with the lotion because i'm not always moisturized most people don't realize it's it's an ash life like when i hang around you like i get ashy they don't know what you're like like legit like like ashy like for real so i don't understand what that what i'm saying is like it's a real thing you're about that ash life and when you hang out with you i literally start getting ashy i swear to god so you so what you said is like i'm in the world of skin i'm like the i'm like the corona i'm the lotion yeah you're gonna get the ashes i'm saying people people can get the lotion virus that's what you're saying so what you're saying is you got to put a mask on you around me because if you're around me it's just gonna it make you ashy all right there may be some truth

to that but i don't think the ash is contagious i think that people feel more comfortable to be ashy around me because i've embraced it that's what i think i had a conversation with buster ruff buster ruff first off ash is a way ash, in the black community, is very prominent. Especially with black folks that are of my skin tone. You know what I'm saying? And I've heard some people say that Ash was a derogatory term to describe black people. Where was it? It was on, it was Talib Kweli.

He did a podcast. And Michael Rapaport was on there, right? And Michael Rapaport. And they got in a big discussion. I forget what his co-host's name was. But she took offense that he called somebody ashy. Oh, wow. I didn't know ashy was like the N-word.

I didn't know that. If ashy was the N-word, then I would have been tormented as a child. But with me, wait a minute. This is a good question. We already know that black people get ashy. Absolutely. And I'm not trying to point you out. You being the white man in the room, do white people get ashy?

You want a smoke screen, an intro? How long does it take to answer that question i don't know i don't think so you don't think so i don't yeah actually i do i do yeah i do you do sometimes no i don't know what ashy really means to be honest with you well i mean i get like my skin gets dry but like i think ashy is another level right i gotta get the ash meter all right we gotta get into a correct term for it yeah okay everybody knows that my podcast like I don't go seek out the like the superstars in terms of uh interviews or anything like that and at the beginning I said I wanted to be a podcast of people that are interesting to me but I have a story to share you know my perspective on life

and in studio today Angela you have one of those very uh strange last names not strange not strange but for me hard to pronounce what's your last name umelo umelo umelo umelo like mellow like the basketball umelo that's a nigerian name right i don't know as soon as i thought nigerian didn't name i thought i was gonna screw it up but i could have did that Angela Umelo and and I met her years ago through uh just coming to my shows she has like five or six sisters all beautiful dope chicks I love them and I found out recently that you are and I didn't even know that this was a job or profession you are a you are a formula chemist you just told me that your what your job what is your title formulation chemist a formulation chemist and being a formulation chemist what does a formulation chemist do so basically i work in development of different types of uh cosmetic products

right so formulating products so you said cosmetic product it could be scrubs it could be anything from makeup to skin cream to yeah pretty much everything so that's from hair care all from hair care and that's your that's that's what you do for a living support yourself yes so we met an idea uh you you're familiar with the character as Laird. I am. So the first, you being a chemical enthusiast, what is it again? Formulation chemist. A formulation chemist.

You saw me play the character of Ashley Laird. And did that inspire you to want to reach out to me and help me? Or was it just funny? Were you concerned when you saw saw when you first saw the ash larry character what did you think i mean i thought it was comedic at first i didn't realize that it was actually something that you might actually need some help with right and what was a serious issue yeah it's a it's a serious issue and it was a serious issue in the hood i'm telling black people you want to see the most intense ash ever?

Go to a public swimming pool. Because the type of chlorine they put in a public swimming pool is to kill anything the hood got. Right? Any bacteria. But the flip side is when you get out of it, you smell like chlorine for like two days, and you're intensely ashy. That's where I think ash is most challenging. Definitely. So you said you thought it was funny. Mm-hmm and

Then you was like you thought it was serious So what was the light bulb that blew? the light bulb that just went off when you saw me as Ashley and Also understanding that might need some help. What was the light bulb? What was the idea that you thought of? Well, the thing I thought of was Well, you're also like The products that you must have available Are probably not working I'm not trying to disrespect

I don't know I'm just saying I'm just saying with black people I got a couple First off This podcast is so fucked up Because every day Every time we do a podcast

I say wear the lotion Nobody got no goddamn lotion And then when they finally give me the lotion, there's lotion that I know black people have issue with. Vaseline Intensive Care. Gold Bomb. Does Shaq have like an Afrocentric type of lotion? But these lotions challenge me because the problem I have with lotion is that

I haven't found one that lasts a long time. And usually I get all excited. It's like somebody like people, the sommeliers, when they taste something, they smell wine. That's how I am with lotion. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay, how's the smell? What's the smell?

What's the temperature? And then I get excited like that first tape. And like, you know how they swish it in their mouth? Like, ooh. Like, I do that. And then I... Do they come out and give you like a little dab of it? Is that what you're saying? What?

Like a lotion waiter? You know how they come out and they give you like a little tiny bit of the wine? Yeah, that's not how it happened. No, that's not how it happened? No. That was a failed attempt of trying to be funny no you were saying that you were no i was asking you if i was saying i was saying my experiences and i was thank you for

shutting me down yeah yeah yeah i'm just saying fire out then you better come correct what i'm saying is that when i use lotions it's not in the restaurant or anything when i use lotion oh man can you put this on the charger for me because i gotta take a call soon um when i use lotion, oh man can you put this on the charger for me because I got to take a call soon. When I use lotion, it starts off good and I'm like oh this is the shit and then it fades away and I'm back to being ashy.

What is it? Is it a certain chemicals people are using in lotion? Why doesn't lotion last for an extended period of time? I mean you got to get the right formula ultimately that's gonna have that subsistence on the skin like it's got a staple it's got to have something a little bit of weight to it shall we say and a lot of lotions are formulated to disappear on the skin so that you don't have the texture you don't have

the feel on the skin but it's kind of like you got to have a balance in between so that you don't feel greasy but then at the same time it doesn't just completely disappear like you said too quickly so why are when you think about some of the biggest cosmetic lines you say like vaseline jerks and stuff like that i'm starting to see more of it but why don't they why is it taking them so long to find formulas that are specific to the african-amer community. It's not necessarily their main target. You know, they formulate a certain... Why would it? Black people need lotion more than anybody.

It's very, very true. But when they're in the... If you go to any development lab, first of all, it's not going to be majority sort of black chemists in there developing the products for them. So they don't got no like black lotion lives matter. They don't have no joy when they do it like peace. No lotion, no peace. No lotion, we need grease. It's none of that. I know like black lotion lives matter like you don't have no joy when they do it like peace no

lotion no peace no lotion we need grease it's none of that I have not seen I have yet to see it why have it haven't like the only one when I think about cosmetics when I think about cosmetics when I think about cosmetics um I don't like like why is it like when I think about men's products I think Shaq is leading the field I think he has a deal with Gold Bond I think he has a deal with Gold Bond

so why is it why is that I mean I think Gold Bond have a strong team of development. So I think that they use a lot of rich and heavy oils in their product. If you're telling me that they don't work as well, then that's it. No, someone told me, this girl, she does facials and stuff. She was telling me, if you see any products with petroleum in them,

that's not a good idea idea because it rep does it repel moisture or what why is petroleum not a good product to see in when you look at lotion okay so from a skin care perspective petroleum is what we call occlusive so it just does what occlusive what's occlusive so literally sits on top of the skin right and just blocks. Oh, so when chicks in the hood get ready to fight and they put Vaseline on their face, that's the block. I didn't even know that. Yes. What was the word again you said? Occlusive.

Occlusive. Yo, so can a chick in the hood be like this? Oh, I'm about to get occlusive on this bitch. Can she be like this? You got the right one. You about to get these hands. So it's occlusive. You about to get these hands. So it's a... It's a great ingredient overall.

It's been used since the beginning of time because it does have a good barrier-forming property. But it's fake. It's an illusion, right? Exactly, because it's going to help to lock in moisture for a period, but because it sits on the skin, eventually it's going to rub away.

And then from an environmental perspective, it's also not a great ingredient. Why is that? It doesn't... It's not biodegradable or something? It's not sustainable. So it's also not a great ingredient why is that it doesn't what is that is that biodegradable it's not sustainable so it's all from the petroleum oil industry so from that the drilling the hacking the environmental impact that using stop moving your mic like that I can hear it what is wrong with us today like what are we doing we just had a great podcast every live podcast are we that cocky where we just

have noises going through the microphone and stuff no they're gonna see every doing we just had a great podcast the other day live podcast are we that cocky where we just have noises going through the microphone and stuff no one's gonna see that it's gonna not no they're gonna see everything it's just you is that camera not on you yeah but it's not gonna be in the edit that'll be on no i want that to edit i wanted i want you get what i'm saying no i get what you're saying but i wonder that's honestly like like did everybody get sleep last night not much i didn't get sleep you didn't get sleep. You didn't get sleep? Okay, we did have a good night, so fuck it. All right, all right, not perfect.

We tried to be perfect. You have a call right now. We need a call right now. I have a call? Yes, that was your alert. Oh, my God, where's my phone? Oh, my God. This is like, can you give me my phone?

I know you had nothing to do with this. We had a great night last night. I know you used to be dealing with lotions and formulas and stuff like that. It's right down there. Right there. Right there. Yeah. I know you exclusive, conclusive.

What is it? Occlusive. Occlusive. All right. So I got to call. This is part of my life. I got to make a phone call to promote a show. Did you text me the number?

214. Don't give the number out on the thing. Text it to me. Oh my God. We are losing. Do we even have a... Is there such thing as a podcast license? Is there such thing as a podcast license?

We just lost our shit. Okay, here we go. They're going to curse me out. Party by day today. Oh, and make sure y'all check out my website for dates, donairrollins.com. That's where I'm making this phone call right now. That be so messed up they don't take my call.

Is this serious? This is it. This is it. And I gave you the contact. Call back the contact. Don L. What's up? Who is this? Man, this is Junius.

I'm the associate producer for the show. Oh, I'm just letting you know I'm recording you while you're recording me. I know I got to make that clear. Say again? I'm recording you while you're recording me. Oh, no, no, no. Are you on the landline? No, I'm not on a landline.

I was, like, literally right in the middle of my podcast, and I said, let me kill two birds with one stone, you know, and, like, I was on the phone to do this. Technically, we're running just a little behind, so if you got to finish up something, you know, if you're scheduled. So you just recently called back in, like, 30 minutes. This is the second person that dissed me today. 30 minutes?

Uh-huh. This is the second person that dissed me today. Okay, 30 minutes. I'll call back in like 30 minutes. This is the second person that dissed me today. 30 minutes? Uh-huh. This is the second person that dissed me today. Okay, 30 minutes. I'll call back in 30 minutes. Perfect. All right, thanks. Can I ask you a real quick question? Can I ask you a real quick question?

Yo. What is your lotion regimen? Because my topic today is like how people need to take more care of their skin and everything and what type of moisturizer. What would be your lotion regimen? Or do you have a problem with like flaky ashy skin well you know i i got good genes so i don't even use lotion what you don't use no lotion yo that's a lot that's a lie bro i don't know a brother that don't use no lotion that's that's a lie but i smooth, dog. All right. I was blessed with perfect jeans, man.

Okay. Well, that's the answer. If you're blessed with perfect jeans and you're smooth, you're good to go. All right. I use bacon grease just like everybody else. All right. There you go. Bacon grease.

I'm going to call back. I'm going to call back. All right. 25 minutes? All right. Try landline because I can barely understand you on this line. Okay. Landline man you just call me old i'll look for one yeah go find a find a telephone bro okay that's it all right all right thank you all right so i guess anyone talking so um you you said donnell you said uh don needs help. It looks like it's an issue.

And you realize that my skin is overly ashy. And you have designed a lotion specifically for me? Just for you. And this is the first time I'm sampling it. Okay. All right, what's the name? I don't even have a name. We don't have a name, right?

Right now it's called Donnell Rawlings No More Ash Body Butter. No More Ash Body Butter. You know what I'm saying? This is called a prototype. You know when you see boxes that say XYZs and stuff? That's what this is. We don't have no package or nothing yet, but this is what it is. So this is the first one I need to try?

Wait, let's build up. So we start with the lightest ones. Let's start with that one. And what makes this light? So it's just in terms of texture. So you're going to feel that it has a high percentage of water in there is there a smell added to it this one has a slight vanilla fragrance vanilla i want chocolate i want to i want a lotion it's got a chocolate cocoa smell i don't want to smell vanilla but i'll try it hold on and you made

those right yes yes now is it good for eczema? I have eczema, and so I have trouble finding things that work with my skin. This should be perfect for somebody who has eczema, especially with it. Well, one of the key things. This joint got a lot of slip and slide on it. Yo, can this lotion go anywhere? This joint got a lot of little, is this an awful way to say lubrication? What's making it, oh, it won't disappear. That one is very lightweight and very sort of

more of the watery sort of feel this one does have fragrance in it and that's not always great for people with eczema is this the type of ingredient they're using ky jelly in this one yeah i don't know this drink for some real oh it won't go how long it takes you gotta get into it get into it and just let it. You used a lot for your little hands. I didn't know it was that concentrated. Why you have to say you did a lot for your little hands? Yo, whatever.

Yo, you is so disrespectful. Yo, you so disrespectful. Oh, it's so cute with them little Chinese hands. That's not racist. Chinese people got the smallest hands. That's why people like Chinese women because everything looks bigger in the Chinese hands. I'm not, that's not racist. Chinese people got the smallest hands. That's why I like people like Chinese women because everything looks bigger in the Chinese hand.

Shut up. Okay. I didn't mean it in that way just in respect to your overall body. Just your hands is a small area compared to your whole body.

I like that. That's not that bad. It's hard for me to gauge like, because with me, with, and I know we'll, if we,

I don't know, but it's fragrance that i kind of like some type like some type of smell uh-huh this doesn't have it but i guess this is the prototype stage it's like you just want to see how does it work it's very light the fragrance in here and of course once you've got the base and you've got the formula you've got the texture working on the fragrance that you want to add to it is it you know what I'm not really mad at that it's okay but it's cool I feel like it's starting to lose some of the moisture already it's very lightweight so this is one of the ones that will disappear but so this one is more for light-skinned dudes you could say that

yeah can you use it on your face or is it just there's no reason why you can't use it on your face for sure so what are the active ingredients in that? So what we've used is a combination of really rich and creamy butters. So the classic butters, like the cocoa butter, the shea butter. Those are black classes. White people don't know nothing about them. Yes. These are like core essentials that you know are always going to work

and are great for replacing any kind of petroleum in your formula right so what are they again cocoa butter and shea butter shea butter then we've got added shea butter what's that song is that a song so disrespectful didn't even pass but go ahead then on top of that we've added mango seed butter we've added hemp seed butter oh you can it can. So these are all things that feed your skin in a healthy way. Exactly. Right? Exactly. It's almost like food grade, shall we say.

Right. So hemp, what are the benefits of adding hemp to lotion? Hemp seed, again, a very, very rich moisturizing oil. It has a lot of anti-inflammatory properties. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What? Sorry. Anti-inflammatory.

So in your skin, so for example, eczema and psoriasis, these are conditions of inflammation. So butters like hemp seed butter is going to help to soothe that inflammation. Gotcha. So that was a light one. That was for light skin. That lotion was the first one. That would be something for like a I'll Be Sure DJ Envy.

That would be a perfect one for DJ Envy. So moving up the line, and I wouldn't be on that level. So what would be the, is this the next? So then we're going to move up to another lotion here. So this one's going to be a little bit richer. We've used the same. Rich, bitch! Okay, and what is the same?

So we've used the same core active ingredient. So it's a question of sort of rebalancing the formula to give you the different texture, right? So this one's going a little bit richer, so we've gone heavier on those butters and heavier on the texture of it. So this would be for the darker Negroes. This should be definitely more moisturizing. Okay, all right, darker Negroes. Darker Negroes.

Darker Negroes. We're going to get a Negros. Tarkin Negros. Tarkin Negros. We're going to get a feeling of what the. It looks good. Nice and thick. Tarkin. You better watch your mouth. We're going to edit that. We're going to edit that.

It would look like they got that lotion for you. You know what? I feel blacker. No, I mean, like, I mean, I really can. I didn't think this lotion stuff was that serious. But I could feel a difference. I can almost see the difference, too. This one gives you more shiny. Exactly.

So your skin looks ultimately more. This is like what Malik Yoba used before. He about to go out right here. This is that. That's pretty good. Again, no smell, but same. Yeah. These ones are fragrance.

So what separated that one from the other one in terms of richness? So what we use is a different type of what we call emulsifying system. Emulsifying. So this is basically how you put the formula together, how you combine your water phase and your oil phase together. And that is going to be key in changing the consistency of the product that you've got. So when you see somebody like me, you look at me, it's like you was at a swimming pool, you saw me, my skin.

You'll be like, he really needs to get emulsified not not quite not quite it's more this is sort of really sort of technical formula um formulation that's what i'm trying to get introduced to because everybody's trying to push me into like you should sell lotion whatever but i kind of don't want to sell something just on the novelty of it but i was like if i do something i could get somebody to buy lotion right off the top. But then it's like, but we never use it because it stinks. So I'm really interested about getting it back. So that was a second level. Okay.

So you know Charlemagne Tha God, right? From the Breakfast Club? Uh-huh. And you've seen his face has been through most vacations. Yes. I mean, his skin has been through like three different shades. He was what we described earlier, a darker Negro, like seven years ago. But he got an esthetician-ist.

That's the face bitch, right? Yeah. I mean, a queen. We're just going to not have, I think it's gonna be a good idea. This is, we're just gonna not have, we're gonna work on that. We're gonna work on that. That's one of those things,

like we're gonna work on that behind the scenes. You're fucking fired! Five times! A goddamn poster! You had one job! All right? So, Charlamagne going back. Charlamagne the guy right he had he had horrible skin like his skin was like yeah like none of the like when his skin was where it was none of like and he really

caters to the homosexual community none of the homosexual community was like was really feeling it was like his skin all fucked up some kind of way he got with a doctor or something. He's on some regimen. He's changed complexions. He's not the dark Negro that we all knew some grew to love and hate. He's not that person anymore. So I would think a person like that would probably need the richest formula, right? That's the third one we're about to test, right?

I guess it depends on his skin type overall if he's had a lot of work done a lot of treatment oh he has like worked out he botox he contoured yeah he may have he contours no he's like he's i mean i don't know if this is a term you could use for guys but when he goes out he's serving face no listen he's serving no no hunty, servant, face, slang. He just pulled up. Yas, how you durn? How you durn? You know, and I know that there was some type of bleaching element in the lotion he used. Does any of these products bleach or make me like light?

Would it make me light skin like Charlamagne? I mean, unless you, I mean, if you wanted it to, we could formulate it in that way, but not at the moment. Nothing? These are more about just making your skin

as it is better and healthier. So let me try that last one on this other little hand. Okay. So this one, now we're going into the richest one.

So now we're really into the butter face. The butter face. I like everything butter face. Get it? Can we add that into the show since we can't add the posters in the background? That would be it. Butter face.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, this one is super rich. So this one's going to give you the longest lasting moisture. So like one application, how long would that last? This one feel good right here i can you could any of these be considered could you use them for like to do massages or anything like that i mean sure so what's the difference between a lotion and like a massage oil massage oil is usually just oil right usually it's i couldn't answer that question yo i thought you're gonna go more professional than that. He was like, well, okay. No emulsifiers. No emulsifiers. Just oil. No, I like this one. I feel like, like I can now, I'm at the stage where I feel like I could just put lotion on for a time and I know how long it's gonna last. Like right now, I'm like this. I'm like this. Oh, that's five hours. That's five hours. That that's a good one that's a really good one so

the beginning lotion light skin medium and dark if you like you know what i'm saying if we if we came up with a lotion line i think i should use like all that like that some of the ashes people i know and put them on like paul newman does with the spaghetti sauce and shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you, if I had some lotion with the Biggie Joy and black and ashy as ever, however, I stay Gucci down to the socks, I think I would have a good idea. A lot of people, this is the thing, I really have been ashy all my life. When I did Chappelle's show, Chappelle asked me, what am I going to do to prepare for the role of Ashley Lurie?

I said, I'm going to take a shower and just dry off i'll be the ashiest person and another interesting backstory about that character on paper he was never actually larry he was just larry and when i was on the show i never really got to talk a lot when i was on the show so i knew that with any character I developed, it had to be funny on sight. So I'm looking at the breakdown, just boxer shorts and shoes. I'm like, I need something else. I said, I want to be ashy.

I said, I want to be so ashy that I can write how much money people owe me on the side of my leg. And he was Larry. I switched it to ashy and they loved it even when I seen the part when I blow this the dust out of my hand I didn't tell anybody I was gonna do that nobody was gonna knew I was gonna be ashy until I showed up that

day I went to make up see give me some baby powder and I was like Donnell Don Don yell that was his name Don yell what's up Don yell yas cuz he's in the yas league and he's open about being in the Yas League. But he gave me, he said, what you going to do, stupid? Because, you know, that's how they tell you, what you going to do, stupid? What you going to sell yourself? What you going to do, stupid? What you going to sell yourself?

You so stupid. That's how they catch you out there. You be like, I am stupid? You so stupid. Right? So he gave me the powder. I put it in my hand. I waited.

And when they was like, I said, Margie. So I said, man, it was lights out it was like ding ding ding when I was doing that character I could I was so zoned out on Ashley Larry I asked I asked Charlie Murphy was in scene of course RIP Charlie Murphy and Charlie Murphy came in to me with a with a stocking cap still over his head right he was like nigga you know what you're doing to this shit? I said, no. He said, man, you're killing this shit.

I had no idea because acting, not like stand-up, acting, you don't know really what you feel you're doing, but you don't know how people are going to receive your performance. You don't know. Stand-up, you know right on the spot. And I was like, I didn't get it because I was just zoned out. I was like, I'm trying to get as much screen time and make this as impactful as i can and then eddie griffin was looking at me he said he down there with the man so he said

ain't killing that i'm like really he was like you know why you're killing he said because you ain't afraid to get ugly and i didn't understand I'm like I'm close to ugly you know I'm saying I ain't no fine nigga I'm like I like regular this girl took what time you look regular I asked this girl how I look she said she said you know you about to get a bad report when they start with mmm first right you look regular it's what you mean regular? Like I'm a gas station pump, like 87, 89, 93 regular. And what he meant by that is like sometimes people have a role to do something.

It's like they don't want to commit 100%. You know, like this, oh, I don't want to know how people think. But I was in that basement. It was in Brooklyn. I had boxers and shorts. It was cold. And I was like this, man, fuck that. And of shorts it was cold and i was like this man that anything that it gave me i was like i'm gonna i'm gonna milk it that's why the ashley larry character coming people like what made you think about that and i said because when i was younger that's why

i was so connected to the ashley character when i was young i used to shoot dice and i used to come home and my mother and my mother always knew when i used to shoot dice because i would come home and my mother and my mother always knew when I shoot dice because I would come home and my knees would be actually scratched up because I was only like hitting them like and they what the hip fold nigga right and my knees are scratched up and I was out there and I look at she and that's what she was I was like I wasn't shooting that she was like why your knees so as she and scratched up and that's how you should catch me that was part of inspiration I'm gonna try this maybe you know what I'm gonna I caught my mom Why your knees so ashy and scratched up? And that's how you should catch me. That was part of the inspiration. I'm going to try this.

Maybe. You know what? I'm going to call my mom. And we have 10 minutes to. We should again? Yes, yes. All right. I hope she'll answer.

You know that's messed up. Your mother don't answer. Mom. Mom. My mother won't pick up. She's probably like, I don't want to be on your damn podcast. Call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message system. Five, seven. I'll get back to that.

I can't even believe that my mother can't even validate my story of being ashy from birth. So with that, how do you see me being one of the ashiest celebrities in the business parlaying that into some type of business or some type of brand? Do you see me coming out with lotion? Definitely. I mean, I've seen like your Instagram and sometimes like you're promoting certain brands a lot of them don't have a lot of the best ingredients even if they are kind of slightly targeted towards the the black and african-american community so you're trying to say you're on my instagram i'll be having white people lotion it's not it's a such thing and you ever get that lotion you squirt it and it's just like oh man that don't got nothing so it's white

people lotion it's not necessarily that's white people lotion because some of them, as you said, like Gold Bond, might be targeted towards some people in the African-American community. But the way they're formulated is not necessarily thinking about wellness and your overall health and care. So they're using ingredients that are not necessarily best for your skin in the long term. So is this, because you know them vegan motherfuckers, they want everything to be vegan, right? Can we come up with a vegan lotion? This lotion is 100% vegan. What? Is it cruelty free?

It's cruelty free. So wait a minute. So that's the whole thing, the vegans beefing about cruelty? Yeah. Oh, so it's not about the diet. It's about you fucking animals up. Yes. Yeah.

It's often confused. often confused like vegan stuff means yeah there's nothing in there that's from animals there's nothing there's nothing that's been tested on animals in there as well and so it's completely vegan it's gluten-free if you want it to be it's completely clean and so no meat ingredients no meat it's not usually meat that's used in cosmetics no nuts right no nuts so that's so basically it's no nuts no nuts so we could come out with like a harvey weinstein okay we can we no i'm just i'm just asking yo yo can we can we come up with a harvey weinstein like it was like this like the vegan no nuts no cruelty but he had cruelty with his shit. Did you know the story?

I know some of it. What's the story you know? He don't have nuts. I mean, I didn't know. I wasn't aware of that. Wasn't that the story? Yeah, he doesn't have nuts. I mean, balls.

Oh, okay. So he could never be like, who that? Deez nuts. He could be like, deez. Well, you know more of the story than me. What? I think the story is one of the women who testified against him said, when I first saw his genitals, I don't, you know, paraphrasing.

When I first saw his genitals, it looked like. No, you're not paraphrasing. You didn't have testicles. You're not paraphrasing. You're speaking from experience because I've got a feeling you might have seen Harvey Weinstein's. Look at my IMDB. You know I didn't see no. No.

No, no, no. No. So is it... She said that he had a mangled genitalia that he had no nuts and it looked like he had a vagina.

Damn! That was the quote. That's... But he's also fat. Maybe his fat was hanging down. Who knows? What was interesting for me to me is that

you going out and you're supposed to have done all these things as women you pull i don't know how gangster you ought to pull out no nuts that's so that whole story is that whole situation harvey wants he's gonna you think he's gonna get his he's gonna get if justice is gonna be serving and with him i don't think so i think he's gonna walk away from Well, he's halfway like he can't walk now. Yeah, I feel like you know, it's going to be over for his career, but I feel like he's just going to walk away.

I've said it on other platforms, like it might be over for the actual like him being on Marquise and being in the credits, whatever. But I still believe that he'll still have influence on Hollywood with his friends that he's been making money for for years. He's not going cosby by any means man if that dude boy if that dude don't go to jail man i'm telling you it's going to be a stampede of people down there trying

to break bill cosby out and as much as people like you know people just going to want fair treatment like if if you're freaks and you're disrespectful like let's just go across the board with it yeah but we could have a Harvey Weinstein strand. Would you call it a strand of lotion? You would call it a strand. Like weed. It would be the lightest, lightest of the. It would be a formula.

You would say a formula, right? Yeah, a formula. Because you know, like weed is like this. What strand do you like? When you live in California, you become a weed snob. Like you can't just give a person a joint and be like this. I'm sorry, is that indica or is that sativa? But when you called me and we talked about this,

you also had a strategy in regard to marketing. How do you think that we market an official, and when I say official brand of lotion, I'm talking about one that's vegan, cruelty-free, shea butter, hemp. What would be our, what do you think a good marketing strategy would be? one that's vegan, cruelty-free, shea butter, hemp, what would be our, what do you think a good marketing strategy would be? So, I mean, what I was finding generally,

just from my own personal use, is when I wanted to find things that were vegan and not just vegan, but actually clean in terms of the ingredients that they're using, they were very light. As you were saying, they disappear in two seconds because most of the clean formulas are not formulated for black skin. Right.

So in that space, there isn't very much existing. I can't go into my CVS or into my Whole Foods and find a good lotion. You can't go into, yo, you know what? I wanna test CVS and all these stores. I wanna go in there and say, "'Scuse me, where the black lotion?" No, but I'm an Indian.

Where the black lotion at? It could be somebody, It's right over there. I remember there wasn't no brands. It was just like, yo, baby oil, Vaseline Intensive Care. You know what I'm saying? Like old school. They be having damn near like lard. So when I go to Harlem, and this is not racist or anything like that,

every African dude is selling shea butter, the raw stuff. Is shea butter, is it good just by itself or you got to add some? Because it seems like I need to get a torch to warm it up before. How good is shea butter for your skin? Shea butter as an ingredient is great in terms of moisturizing. But as you said, texturally and blending it in and moisturizing it in, it doesn't have the great sort of texture to it it can feel a little dry it can make your skin also look a little bit dry because it doesn't have a high sort of shine to it right but i want to start lotion you think i should start a lotion business absolutely i should start lotion so

what's our next step our next step is for you to fall in love with these products we'll go and we'll work on some fragrances oh i didn't mention't mention also, these ones also have CBD oil in there as well. Oh! We just took it to the next level. What are the, I don't know, whenever I think about CBD, I feel like it's a kind of cleaner way to get high. You know, is that true?

Can you explain that? Because I don't really know what CBD oil really, really does. Right, so CBD oil is, really does. Right. So CBD oil is one of the greatest anti-inflammatory oils that you can have. So it does to your skin what like oregano peels do? I don't know. Oh, my God. Oregano peels?

Tumeric maybe? Tumeric is anti-inflammatory as well. But if you're talking about internally, so CBD is going to really sort of calm your central nervous system. So does it really penetrate your skin like that to fill a you're gonna have the same some of the same benefits it depends so when you're talking when you're talking about getting high you're talking about THC right and within the CBD you're not talking about CBD THC there's no psychoactive ingredients in the CBD portion of it but what we are seeing and there's a lot more studies happening at the moment

that are showing how strong CBD can really help to soothe the skin, help in terms of any inflammatory conditions for the skin, and also is a really great moisturizer for the skin over a long time. Oh, my God, man. If I'm going to come out with lotion, I'm coming out hard. I'm like, what's in it? Everything, nigga. CBD, THC.

Give me some more acronyms. That's it, THC, CBD. Yo, don't call me ashy. Get some THC and some CBD. That was the goal, to make the ultimate lotion, right? The ultimate lotion. Cocoa butter, shea butter, hemp seed butter mango seed butter cbd oil and also another oil which is kind of more new to the market called mongongo oil mongongo yeah

i know white kids gonna love that oil it just sounds like something like mongol oh i see you with your mongogo what is the mongogo oil i wasn't going to say that, but go ahead. So again, it's another really rich and nourishing oil, naturally plant-based, grown in South Africa, and they're basically extracted from the nuts, and then you take this really rich oil that helps to protect the skin. Yo, it's extracted from... Was Harvey Weinstein, he's spending his time in over here? It's extracted from the nuts.

What is it? But it's not a nut in the sense of like... These nuts. It's not the same as the allergenic nuts. So what is a nut? We call it a nut because it's like a kernel. the sense of like a... Deez nuts. It's not the same as like the allergenic nuts. So what is a nut? We call it a nut because it's like a kernel. I don't even like the way you do the nut. You did it like this.

It's a kernel. What's that nut again? What's that nut y'all be getting over there? What is it? A mongongo oil. A mongongo oil. So why isn't that popular here in America? I think it's probably fairly new.

Probably people are not so aware of it. There's a new nut out there that nobody knew about. Mungungo nut. Mungungo oil. So that's in the family. That's like a... Does shea butter come from a nut? So all of these ingredients come from nuts. But it's not a nut in the sense

of the allergenic nuts. So definitely voided. There's no almonds. There's no sesame. There's none of those sort of hypoallergenic nuts in there. So you can't be on an airplane and somebody, like, I'm sorry, we won't be having mongogo nuts today because we have someone that's allergic to nuts. I hate that person, man.

I think that person is just someone that's just trying to prank you. Because I'm like, man, I don't believe that everybody's listening to the flight attendant. Like, if you had some nuts in your bag, right, like i don't think it's gonna be like this oh shit i got these nuts back here i think people because there's some evil people out there i'm pretty sure some people out there like this man i'm just gonna keep walking around waving my nuts until somebody starts scratching that's them them trolls. Trolls would do that.

They'd be like this. Just walking around, motherfuckers start scratching. A mongongo nut. A mongongo, mongongo? Mongongo nut. Mongongo nut. So, Donny Rollins lotion is going to be filled with mongongo nuts. Mongongo oil.

Mongongo oil. CBD. THC. No THC. Io oil, CBD, THC. No THC. I mean, you can do THC, it just, you'll be limited where you can sell it. You can put THC in a lotion? Yeah, but you can't really

sell it anywhere. Yeah. There's a lot of red tape. There's a lot of red tape? I don't want to mention that. So, I think, and it's crazy because people, it's not super original for Don Airballs to sell lotion, but I never took it serious because I never knew that the business of lotion was so serious.

But now that I have that information, am I up for that call right now? All right. One o'clock. Did you send me, we're going to do this again. 972. Okay. Oh, he said call me from another number because we don't have a landline. We can probably do it in the club if you really want to do it.

Hello? Damn it. Nobody likes me today. Mr. Rollins. What's going on? Am I clear now? Yeah. Well, it sounds a lot better than your previous line.

It probably was. I wasn't close enough to the mic. Yeah, it's still not optimal, though. You won't be. Optimal? How do you get optimal? Nobody got no optical lines no more? not optimal, though. You want people... Optimal? How do you get optimal? Nobody got no optical lines no more?

Come on, man. You know, you got to get... You know, DL the only one with a GED on this show. I've been in it. I've been in high school. Where's the line? If you need it. So, I'm not clear right now? Yeah, let's try the landline.

Okay. All right. Because there's a lot of background noise. Okay. No problem. Even on this line, it's a lot of hissing. Okay. Gotcha.

All right. I'm going to call you from the land. All right. I'm going to call you from the land. All right. Call back. All right. We're going to pause.

How much time were you on this podcast? We got 47 minutes. We have 47 minutes? We have 47 minutes. All right. This is Donnell Rawlins. I've been educated. I'm going to...

I've been... Thank you for coming. And this was so impromptu. We really do have an idea about lotion. I didn't want to make this episode all about lotion. Some kind of way, it became all about lotion. We got some background on the lotion. We know what nuts are good for. we know who doesn't have nuts but I

would like to call some other people and I would like to call some other people and ask them what their lotion regimen is you know what I'm not gonna call other people I'm gonna take it to the street what type of lotion and what's your regimen to moisturize yourself the Don Air Rollins show we're off to the street what type of lotion and what's your regimen to moisturize yourself the don air rolling show we're off to the streets let's go Thank you.