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Episode Date: October 20, 2020

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I Yo, I'm not keeping us a kill man Yo, yo, I'm not to interrupt interrupt. The Donnell Rawlings Show, live in your face. Fuck y'all bitches, and you'll never take my place, niggas. Thank you. That's right, boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen, women with dicks and dudes with titties, we don't discriminate, we show everybody love. When you hear this corny song, you know the Donnell Rawley Show is about to start.

You ask yourself, Donnell, this is like your 40-something episode, why you still use this corny music? Because it makes me feel fucking amazing! And the reason why I say fucking amazing is because I've been on white water rafts with white people. I've went from zero-class

rivers to rivers that are two and three class. I've eaten trail mix on the river. I've eaten beef jerky on the river. This is not one of our sponsors, but I fell in love

with white claws on the motherfucking river. I've had my tevas on the river. From the streets to the creeks, from the hoods to the woods, from the whores to the oars. This is the Don Air Rollins Show. And if you're a person that observes how we start every show, I'm usually with a person I consider my comrade and my partner.

That person has had the title of yams, poster girl, cinnamon, and a lot of things. And a couple of weeks ago, she found out and discovered that she was thick. Okay? People that are listening now may understand what thick is. Some people might not understand. Some people might think it's like thick skin. But thick is a description that's very popular in the black community. And if you have an issue with me uh

validate anything i'm saying google uh go to urban dictionary and google thick and see what happens so we discovered she was thick last week so today she decided to take thick leave get it like all bitches can't take thick leave you know them zero models in hollywood and shit you know the ones that vegan everything you know them healthy coke head bitches you know what i'm talking about you know i'm talking about them chicks like oh i can't eat that can i is it a salad no dressing can i have a salad with no dressing? Can I get a salad with an eight ball? They can't be called thick. I miss her presence today.

She will be back, but right now, I don't have anyone sitting there. The start off is a good idea, but I'm like, wait a minute. Suppose I don't have anyone sitting there. The start off is a good idea, but I'm like, wait a minute. Suppose I don't have anyone sitting there. Down here, what are you going to do? Talk about myself! What else is there that's not you? Are you being disrespectful? Yeah, a little bit.

Where did this level of disrespect... I'm just... just No I just wanted Cause you have to feel good Where did you Get the confidence To just come at me Right out the fucking gate I don't know man

Are you me right now I don't know where that confidence I just ate a little You got new glasses No You wiped your glasses off Probably yeah Cause I know you have a different energy

I've seen you with foggy glasses And you don't have the same confidence No I clean glasses energy Yeah when you get what do you use swap what do you use i use just a cloth just a cloth sometimes a paper towel sometimes a tissue a cloth right yeah and this is though the glasses motherfuckers they wipe their uh glasses off for certain situations right yo it's when they want to make a point. Yo, I wish I had some glasses right now.

Right before an argument with their wife. Right before an argument, it's like, you do like this. When they make a point. Or another thing, and this is like my closest friend, 40, Jermaine Johnson.

He tells black people his name is 40. He tells white people his name is Jermaine. But Jermaine, this is my close friend. He's a straight street dude. I know I'm ripping him with laughter when he takes his glasses off. When he takes his glasses

off and do like this. Because right now he's blind. But he needs to make the adjustment. When he takes his glasses off and do like this. If he do this three times, I'm like, nigga, I'm killing this shit. It's the same. It's a level of confidence.

People with glasses. People with glasses. Please, people with glasses. Like, another thing they do is the push-up. Right. You know, the push-up. When do you when do you like for the most a good point when you make a good point or if you're gonna say

something that's profound or something right when you want to look smart when you just do like this yeah I tried it one time I was on my about this oh yeah that one right there that might be like the fuck did you say no that might be racist too what you say nigga okay go you go from this down to up yo you do the racist transition and say what you say nigga okay all right listen you say that to say what? And what I want to say, going back to myself, and the only reason I want to talk about myself, because I think

myself was fucking hot this week. Whatever week this is, myself was hot as shit. And the reason why I say my shit was hot as shit, because it's so hard during this pandemic to stay relevant. It's so hard to be a part of production because nobody's producing shit,

but when you lay like little seeds and shit and you see them start to sprout later on, and the example is I did a show about a year ago, and this was before the pandemic kicked off or whatever, and the show was called The Cabin. Burt Kreischer. Burt Kreischer is like the only white Jamaican motherfucker I know. This motherfucker got more jobs than a Jamaican on Kingston,

on fucking Flatbush Avenue from Kingston. That's two Jamaicans into one motherfucking block. Every time you turn around, Burt's got a new show on. And I've been knowing Burt for like years. i think if you want to say when it comes to comedy like a generation of he's of my generation i think that he migrated from phoenix wherever he did to new york because back when i was doing it you couldn't blow up in your hometown it was impossible you become a local hero or whatever. That was it. You had to

migrate somewhere. So wherever he came from, I can't remember. He came through at a time that I came from D.C. He was a funny motherfucker. You know? He had money already. Ha! You know how bad, you know how you hate

a fucking open mic-er from a rich family? Nobody wanted to be this nigga friend. No, there was not one gig that could have been canceled on Bert Kreischer where he wouldn't be able to pay his rent that is the type of security that really doesn't exist in entertainment normally you leave his shit you it's like you don't really have

that security where I really don't have to be that funny because I'm not going to pay my rent with it. But Bert Kreisler, he had that luxury, but he was always fucking funny. And when he called me, I've been knowing him for years. We did a show some time ago called Reality Bites, and that was a dope-ass cast. Theo Vaughn was on that show. Tiffany Haddish was on that show. This dude named Kyle something was on the show. Red Grant was on the show. Tiffany Haddish was on the show. Amy Schumer was on that show this dude named cal something was on the show red grant was on the

show tiffany haddish was on the show amy schumer was on the show and it was people that uh comedy central thought could be breakaway or just had something to add to it show didn't really get it right it did we had one run of it you know it didn't pop anybody but that's when i really and burt christ was on the show that's when i really got connected to burt so you build that type of connection somebody so you know everybody have projects and shit he was like don't know and um i have burt saved in my phone under i know this is i shouldn't i say i He's saving because you everybody wants to know what somebody is saved under this girl told me the other day.

She said, I got a crazy question for you. I was like, bitch, I'm not dancing anymore. And I was like, well, she said, what do you have me saved under? And I told her. Portrait bitch. I don't have time to be putting people's names down. The bitch made a portrait, and I saved her. That was the quickest way for me to remember.

Where do you know this bitch from? What's she do? Portrait bitch. Yeah, what's she do? Why would I even name her? What'd she do? Portrait bitch. Yeah, what'd she do? Why would I even name her? What'd she make? She made a portrait. Portrait bitch. Right?

I'm the only person that saved names like that? I'm the only one? No, I think everyone does that. Huh? Everyone does that. Everyone does it, and I told her. But I have, Bert saved under caucasian friend and i i thought i got the last laugh but you know the question i never ever ask him what am i saved under and bert has a history of saying some off-color shit and people question you like what type of nigga he? So I don't even want to ask him

what he has me say because if he says, it starts with an N. They'll be like, never mind. Nigerian buddy. Any of that. But it can stand for anything.

But I have him say that. And a while back, he called me. He said, Donnie, I'm doing a show. You got to be a part of it show you got to be a part of it You got to be a part of it, and I was the show he was like it's the show's called a cabin I'm like what's the premise of the show?

He's like well, I get some of my closest friends together, and we go in the woods and we hike and we fish It's like this he's like this we hike oh my god we got two more bitches that came in son yo i was just talking about this right right uh i was talking about what do you save people's name under right like how do you have their name saved right and then this one girl the other day she asked me she said donnie i'm curious what do you have me saved under and I told her and I? Had her saved under um portrait bitch Because she made a portrait for me

Right. So whatever somebody did for you. That's what you name him under. Oh Boy You got what bitches You know, you got what business did you got what one and one twos you don't say that's what the name I don't never know you can never never do a screenshot of whatever but thanks for coming that's one of my fucking yellow spring bitches positive is just angry face by your Caucasian now I want to talk about her face you You haven't met this, that you always got to say, fix your face.

Do you know what that means? What, they have a stank face? Oh, you learned that from this show. Fix your face? You know what fix your face, what do you think? You're right, I don't know. I think it means if you're making a screwball face, maybe. Yeah, that's the end of it.

Got an attitude face. There you go, what it means is straighten your fucking of it. Got an attitude face. There you go. What it means is straighten your fucking attitude. Yeah. Fix your face. Fix your face. But it doesn't have to be on their face or just the whole attitude? No, it starts here.

It's in the brow right here. Look at this area right here, right? Because one of my friends just walked in, and all summer I had to tell her, her fix her face and she knew her face needed to be fixed right because when it was broke right when it was when the face is broke I said fix your face and she did like this she fixed it like yo she knew she would not acknowledge that she needed to get her face fixed but she knew like oh shit he caught it broke is she yo she did like this her face is like this if y'all could see i know some people just listen to this audio like look at this face right there you smell something right okay this is how the face looks. Somebody say, is that fish in the refrigerator good?

Right? And you smell it. You're like, mm. That's when the face is broke, right? So I noticed the face was broke, and I said, fix your face. And she did like this. Like she forced it. It was like fucking Botox started right here.

Because the energy of Stank Face, it starts right here. See this started right here. Because the energy of Stain Fates, it starts right here. See this area right here? This is what we need to do. I'm not a therapist or, I don't know what I am, but right now I'm gonna take this opportunity to explain something to you ladies, to women or anybody. What we wanna do is this part of your brow, release,

release, the tension. Let's do a little, do a little- I'm doing it, nigga, shut the fuck up. You all fucked up my space up, nigga, chill. I'm on some motherfucking- Zen, you don't have zen. I'm on some zen shit, nigga,

you wanna talk through the goddamn zen. God get zen, my bad. You didn't hear this shit? some Zen shit, nigga, you want to talk through the goddamn Zen. God gets it. My bad. You didn't hear this shit? I didn't hear it. I don't have headphones on. You would fuck an orgy up, nigga. Everybody in there fucking, right?

Everybody in there fucking. Everybody having a good time. You would come in there, you would fix your glasses. You would fix your glasses, and you would put them down. I was like,. You will come in here, you will fix your glasses. You will fix your glasses and you'll put them down. It's like, what's going on in here? And if Orgy be blown, niggas dick getting soft and shit, fucking with you, man. Don't, what I'm trying to tell you is that, fix your face.

We're back to the, I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna ask the editors, producers, which is you. Right. Just help me get there right now. Music. Music. I'm going to ask you to close your eyes. Close your eyes. Close your eyes.

You had a long day. But the day is coming to the end. Close your eyes. You had a long day. But today is coming to the end. Close your eyes. Look to the sky, but don't open your eyes. You feel that? Yup. Just relax. Think of the moon.

Think of WAP. Take a deep breath. Does the WAP have a twerk wind? Take another deep breath. Smell it again. You could just be off. You haven't been corona tested in a while. Release.

Breathe in. Take a deep breath. Is the WAP still there? I'm going to ask you just to stay there. What do you feel right now? All right. We're going to come out of this. I don't want to rush you guys.

Take a deep breath. And count with me. Five. Five. We're surfacing. Three. We're almost there. Two, almost there, and one.

Good job, guys. Good fucking job. I see growth with these people. I see a group of people that are ready to ground and earth. There's a group of bitches that have to build a picture.

Earth bitches. I signed, I I saved a name in my phone today because it was something special. And the name I saved was Birthday Bitch. Hello? You know a birthday bitch? A birthday bitch is a bitch they want to celebrate her birthday one time for the birthday

bitch yo look look look nigga two times for the birthday bitch everybody wants to be a birthday bitch because when you're a birthday bitch you get to do whatever the fuck you want to do all day and guess what you that's what you get to do and when you're want to do all day. And guess what you get to do? When you're a birthday bitch, guess what you don't have to do? You don't have to fix your face. When you're a birthday bitch, you don't fix your face. Your face is whatever face you want that face to be. All right.

Really? whatever face you want that face to be. All right. Really? Nah, hold on, hold on, hold on. Really? Nah, have a seat, son. We talking about faces and shit. It's me? Yeah.

I got a question, son. We talking about this. Shout out to Van Latham. Yo, shout out to Van Latham. Get it? Latham. Latham. No. No. No, I'm just saying. Shout out to Van Latham, because I spoke to Van Latham early this morning.

Yeah. And we talked, not knowing that the name was saved under this name, we talked about the birthday bitch. Did we not? We talked about it. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Okay. Nah, fuck all that, man. Nobody doing all that shit.

We just meditate. This nigga come in, you gonna Why you hug me? I took you to the Zimful shit. I had to wop over this nigga come in because he went to college and all that type shit. You know, educated motherfucker. He used a coconut oil or something on his face. No, homo, you look good, son. I appreciate that. But you're late. Huh know, educated motherfucker. He used a coconut oil or something on his face.

No, homo, you look good, son. I appreciate that. But you're late. Huh? You're late. I am late, but you know what though?

I don't. I had two podcasts scheduled today and they ran late. Okay, all right, all right. You're my man, so I'm like, yo, I'm gonna come do nothing.

You did me a favor. I didn't do you a favor. That's what it sounds like to me. That's not what I'm saying. It sounds like you did me a favor. I'm not saying I did you a favor. Man, you did me a solid favor That's what it sounds like to me. That's not what I'm saying. It sounds like you did me a favor. I'm not saying I did you a favor. Man, you did me a solid favor. No, I'm saying that if Donnell asked me to come do his podcast, I'm going to come do it.

But I had to go get the money first. What did Donnell do? What? Didn't Donnell ask you to do the podcast? You did. I asked you earlier, right? Right. We had this idea about the birthday bitch.

All right. How many times are we going to call him a bitch, though? Yo, don't come in with your positive shit, man. Yo, I got these bitches comfortable with me. Don't come here and fucking Sean King me, nigga. Just go to the show. This ain't your show, nigga. We ain't got no sponsors, nigga.

You just came like, oh, brother, I don't know if it's a good idea. I just had these bitches back there dancing. Hey, hey, if everybody's cool with it, I'm cool with it. The context of how you use words, and you're a wordsmith. Right. You know how words can hurt you with a certain tone. Sure. A certain context.

Right. So I understand you coming in defending bitches. I understand that immediately. You a Hollywood nigga, you know, like, whoa, what did I walk into? Right. You know, I could do a sound bite and I say, bitch, and then I got you like this, and then you like, oh, shit. So you had to, as a Hollywood person,

you had to see what the situation was, was everybody comfortable with it? For the most part, everybody in this room, and I never mean in disrespect, it's just the way- Word up, word up, I'm with you. I know I gotta get over it. Intent. It's intent, it's the way my dad used to talk, and it just never meant with any disrespect. Word up, word up, I would. I know I gotta get over it. Intent. It's intent. Intent. It's the way my dad used to talk, and it just never meant with any disrespect.

Word up. So we talk today because Alisa Harper. It's her birthday. It's her, what? Not Harper. Okay, what is it? You got an accent. How do you say it?

Harp. Harp. Okay, harp. I apologize. If your last name was on your Instagram then I would know it I just want to be clear he's got all these Instagram names and then when you meet a big like it's Jacobson I'm like no I saw your Instagram miss it's mine it's my I'm sure I'm tripping like it's Jacobson and I'm like I saw your

Instagram it's about that lab about that life like, I saw you on Instagram. It's about that life. That was your IG. So we were, this is the relationship. We were in Yellow Springs, not as a couple, but we did the Chappelle Show summer camp. Right, right, right. She came over there being trapped in New York, not in New York, in LA, dealing with the mandate of, can't nobody go out?

Like, what am I going to do and everything? And it was like a place she went and had a great time We had a great connection. She was with a friend or something. We had a great time and we experienced nature Right, Louisiana nigga, you know about nature of course creeks and all that shit crawdaddies. Well, not creeks, but Bayou's yeah What? It's not a crib. We don't have I don't we don't have creeks, but we Bayou's right okay I'm a creek nigga I don't know Bayou niggas alright Bayou is like swamp niggas basically yeah oh I don't fuck with swamp niggas you don't come you don't fuck with swamp niggas swamp beautiful got a whole ecosystem the word the name though ecology is got you know what I mean swamp but it's a

swamp that's why they say bayou okay I don That's why they say bayou sounds better than swamp. Okay, I don't even know. I am a river ninja. Mm-hmm. I don't know what a bayou is. Explain, what is the biggest difference between a creek and a bayou? Bayou sounds like a muddy-ass water. Well, bayou, it can't be muddy,

but a creek is like a small little tributary that runs off like... Tributary. A creek is a small little fucking river type of thing it's a small little deal a bayou is a it's a swamp and it's got trees and it's got like it normally it's a pit that comes off of a river you know what i mean so we got the mississippi river and so we have the mississippi river and off the mississippi river you go to like the atchafalaya river or places like that lafayette they have little small areas back up in there that are bayous

or swamps. Alligators. Fish. Snakes. Pelican. You know what I'm saying? All of that shit. All I saw was snapping turtles, nigga. So do bayou niggas fuck with creek niggas? And do creek niggas fuck with street niggas?

Fuck. I think bayou niggas and Creek niggas can get along. A Creek is a lot cleaner, though. Because a Creek is like all beautiful and tranquil and shit like that. A Bayou is like Flavor Flav. A Bayou is Flavor Flav. That's good. Yeah, boy.

A Bayou is Flavor Flav. Yeah. A Creek is more Chuck D. A Creek is Chuck D. A Bayou is dirty, nasty, real. You know what I'm saying? In your face. It's beautiful, though. Bayou is Chuck D. A creek is Chuck D. A bayou is dirty, nasty, real. You know what I'm saying? In your face. It's beautiful though.

A bayou is ODB. ODB. That's a bayou. And the creek is more risen. Okay, back to my bitches. Before y'all get it all fucked up. So we establish a connection. Really?

Go back with me? So here's the thing. So we met. We had a great time in Yellow Springs. But what we both fell in love with was nature. Outdoors, kayaking, canoeing. Not in a bayou. Creeks. Class zero level.

We stepped up later on, right? So we connected with Nature. Nature, she's over here in L.A. again. She was like, yo, my birthday. She's Australian, so she's like, my birthday. I didn't even know what she said. My buff day. I'm like, what the fuck is a buff day?

You working out, bitch? What's going on? Yo, I don't know how to celebrate my birthday. And she kept one. She knew you. We're friends. Yeah, yeah. And she was trying to plan these nature.

We couldn't find no fucking nature. And the closest nature we got was we had to catch a ferry and then like a boat and then two Ubers and shit like that. We three hours away from nature. So nature was out. Yeah. But her birthday was still going on. Right?

Right. With no plans. So I said, fuck it. I'll do a podcast. Let's do a podcast. So nature was out. Yeah. But her birthday was still going on. Right? Right. With no plans. So I said, fuck it. I'll do a podcast. Let's do a podcast. You come down here. I don't know how many friends we have that are mutual or whatever.

Come down here and say happy birthday. We go up. We do a podcast. And we say happy birthday to you. Make her feel special. So it's she like, and I don't want to offend you. Why would I be offended?

She's the birthday bitch. There you go. Okay. Don't nobody say happy birthday after that. I said happy birthday You're singing to her right now Sing to her. We should we sing to her right now sing happy birthday to yes sing Happy birthday, nigga. You hear that?

I'm sure you feel real special right now. You did the whole thing for his birthday. Now he's into his phone. Happy birthday, nigga. I'm trying to do something. All right, here we go. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Y'all sound horrible as shit. Happy birthday, dear Eliza. Happy birthday to you. Yay! Alright. Wasn't that good? That's what I was trying to say.

It's Alyssa. No, not that. It's Alyssa. No, not that. It's Alyssa. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hey, what's going on? This is Donnell Rawlings.

That's right. It's Donnell Rawlings. What you didn't know is that we're doing shout outs to the birthday bitch. You know her. You were in Yellow Springs. This is the only thing we can do. We're going to try to do our best. We just sung Happy Birthday, but what do you like

to say? Happy Birthday, Asya and Lisa. And your peanut butter song, that's a lot of peanut butter. That's a lot of peanut butter. It's a lot. Oh, man. I was supposed to to you got to do me a favor

all right come here i was going to make a whatsapp call right and for some reason my phone is like storage is done i'm fucked up could you make that phone call that we were going to make earlier for me and just tap me in? Can you do that? Yes. All right. I think I can actually, I think I might be able to call it on three ways. So let me try. Right now?

I'm going to try it right now. I'll call you right back. All right, bye. What kind of car do you drive? This is going to be like a, this is like a. I haven't driven since January. What do y'all do in Australia? What do we do in Australia? Y'all don't ride kangaroos.

Please don't say that. We lie. No, I live on the coast, so I drive. Am I screaming? I live by the coast, so I'm always at the beach. We don't know what the fuck the coast is. We didn't even know what a goddamn bayou was 10 minutes ago. Fuck we gonna know about the coast?

I'm on the east coast. I'm from Sydney, so I lie by the beach. I'm from Bondi. So Bondi doesn't leave Bondi. We're like snobby leave bond I will like snobby how did I figure that out cuz you don't even want to do this conversation no I don't that's what I do back home if I'm not when I was working or I'd be by the beach it was one of the two I wouldn't do anything else see the way you're saying you can say call a bitch a bitch and just say I'm a beach bike was that wrong nobody nails nobody wanted to wear a bitch a bitch and just say, I'm a bitch. Bitch. That's exactly what I do here, and no one knows. Was that wrong?

Nobody, now, nobody want to hear the word bitch. White girls start talking now, y'all don't want to fuck with me no more? They switched the fuck up on me, son. But, man, listen. I'm excited. I never have guests on the show because I never, I know this may sound crazy, but not too many people are that interesting to me. I don't sound crazy at all. You an interesting brother. Yeah, but not too many people are that interesting to me. Enough.

I don't sound crazy at all. You an interesting brother. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? Like motherfuckers don't seem interesting. And not that I'm too good or whatever, but I'm like, if you're not interested. It's not going to be a good conversation. It's not going to be a good conversation.

Right. But it's interesting how we met is because you know the face he was one of the strongest proudest black voices on tmz yeah um he was the one whenever you felt something to head there was anything race related or had anything to do with black that he was going to represent black to the fullest and not as an angry motherfucker as an educated Motherfucker as a motherfucker newest history and a motherfucker that knew how to talk and communicate to white people without flipping out, right? That's the hardest thing to do cuz motherfucking white people can make you want to flip some time always had his demeanor And if you as a black person watching the show you whatever they were talking about you wanted his perspective from

it you know something about that when you're on tmz you fight you're in a room full of a lot of people right and you're fighting to get eyes on you and like that and you're trying to get whatever whatever because it's not like you're in a one-on-one thing it's like a gladiator pit right i had started to kind of get on this show and kind of started to make my opinions pop and felt and stuff like that. But the first person on the other end of the camera, I don't know if I ever told you this, the first person on the other end of the camera to ever show me love was you. Word, son. Because they get you out somewhere, right?

And you're talking. And you say in the camera, you go, you know what I love about TMZ? Y'all got a nigga with a notepad over there and it was me because i was standing back with my pad and pitch my shit off there yeah and you were like i like that nigga right there who is that and i'm pitching the shit and i'm not realizing that you're talking about me right right i think you're talking about charles or some shit like that and then i'm like uh yeah i'm like it's wondering and then kelly goes he's talking about you, stupid. That was the first thing you got on?

That wasn't the first time I got on. I had been on. But after that, Harvey comes over to me and Harvey goes, like, see? Because they're always trying to get you to see how big you're becoming so you don't ask them for more money. Oh, yeah, that's the whole thing. Right. So he's like, see? See?

See? You're resonating with people. You're resonating with people. Don't hear those pockets.'t hear those pockets you're resonating you're getting more famous but you know what you said you said something you said they say that so they you know you want more money right right people try to pay you in fame in this yeah but you know what that means it's always gonna be a time because i remember when it hit that you weren't on the show anymore right yeah yeah you know some people are, that nigga lost his job. Oh, whatever.

I was like this. I felt like this, son. I was happy, son. Right. Yo, I was like this. Finally! You know what I'm saying? Because, like, I was just like, I was.

That one time that I feel bad that you didn't have that job anymore. Okay, hold on. Let me see. Sorry, hold that. I'm ready. Hello? Oh, my God god do it again but now one time I felt like it was time you know I'm saying and you you were getting big you know for sure you was getting bit and you you were becoming a voice that people need to hear and

with that any job you know people can feel like they feel insecure like oh we made you or whatever but it was time to go it definitely was time to go and actually even the way that it happened ended up being a blessing in disguise because all it did was shoot out a backslidden to everyone and i was available right now at first you know when something like that happens you you wonder whether or not people who are gonna fuck with you before whether or not they're gonna stop or how it's gonna be in the town because you've been working at a place for nine years you don't know and then you another thing you know some relationship dissolves because some relationships are just like oh this motherfuckers when I need them for that one exactly and some of that did happen to be honest it's definitely

people that I used to hear from you know when they wanted needed a shot or when they wanted to when they fucking got trouble or something like they don't hear from them anymore but that's cool too but right away we stepped into better opportunities and you know that all of that shit was a year ago this week yeah this was anniversary this is anniversary year ago this week when you grew when i grew and so you know you just got you can't be afraid of it you know it happened i was tripping for a second but then i got right back on the horse and now we got a whole bunch of things popping how do you feel like um doing your shit right now? And it might not, because TMZ was a huge platform.

Do you feel like you're starting over, or is it a continuation of what you built there? I'm not starting over. I'm starting different. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, like, when you're on TMZ, it's a very specific way that you do your thing, right?

Everybody talks. They bring out a story, boom. You give your opinion, it's over. Now, the things that I'm doing now is long form. It's listen to Van for hours, listen to Van for two hours. It's Van's hosting a TV show here. It's Van's moderating something here. I got total freedom. So you better be as good as you say you are.

Did your phone blow up when motherfuckers knew you were released? Everybody. Really? I met with everybody. What's the situation you got with Will Packard? Oh, Central Ave, man. Hold on. Sorry, guys. I'm multitasking right now, but just stay.

Okay. Hello? Why you don't answer when I call you? Because I'm doing a podcast. I tried. I didn't see. I didn't see the WhatsApp. I told you? Because I'm doing a podcast. You got checked? I tried. I didn't see the WhatsApp. I told you the app is fucked up right now. What happened?

Could you do anything? Yes, I keep calling you, and I'm like waiting for you to call. You're not there. I know because it's app. Do you have WhatsApp? I do have WhatsApp. All right. Who got WhatsApp?

Why you don't answer? All right. I'm going to give you a number right now. This is WhatsApp. WhatsApp is number. I told you the app is full. It won't let me use it. All right.

Hold on. Let me see if I can do it from here. One second. Let me see. All right. Can I hear it? This is the craziest. Hold on.

This is what this podcast is. They will be tapped into the Bluetooth. One second. Okay. Yeah. If I can hear her. That's your phone. Right. If someone else yes, I will. Okay. Yeah. If she, if I can hear her, that's your phone. Right.

Else. What's that? Hold on. Please just be white over there. Let's let us do this. All right. We got this. Yo,

produce. I've just said, if we could talk to her, if she could patch a phone call in, then that's, that's it. I have to use WhatsApp. I can't make that.

Okay. All right. Regular phone. All right. Take this number down. You got to do this for me, man. What's the number? We're going to bleep this out. What am I trying to, WhatsApp. I can't make that phone call on a regular phone. All right, take this number down. You got to do this for me, man. What's the number? We're going to bleep this out.

What am I doing? You're giving her this number so she can WhatsApp you. Giving her my number? Yeah, so she can WhatsApp, phone call you. I'm going to call you with WhatsApp. Don't be afraid. Yo, he's right. He's not on the goddamn Bluetooth.

Oh, shit. Hold on. Don't know. He's not on the Bluetooth. Oh, shit. Let me call him. Let's take a team of bicycles. Oh, shit, hold on, don't know. He's not on the Bluetooth. Oh, shit. Let me call him. Let's get his team of bikers on. Oh, shit, son.

Damn it. All right, y'all got to hold on. Y'all listeners, hold the fuck up. How am I going to do this? Yo, my fucking phone is goddamn. What's that producer cred right there? All right, delete large videos. Man, I ain't got time to delete shit.

I don't know what to do. Oh, man, you hook up to Bluetooth. Boom, we're going to fix this shit. man you hook up to Bluetooth boom we gonna fix I'm hooked up to Bluetooth hook up to this Bluetooth I'm looking up what am I doing Rho caster fine Rho caster Rho caster yep would you like to pay us more all right ready here we go we're gonna do this shit it's important to me okay Rho caster Pro yeah all right so what's the number my phone number no corinne the number

okay yeah give me the number to give to her and that's gonna be on the bluetooth yes what is it what's the number oh shit i don't know what the fuck a lot going on uh there's no number number where like what are we talking about to for her to whatsapp you used your gmail or no i use my just my phone number that's what i'm asking you did you did is she there corinne oh man i'm i'm not giving up nigga keep talking give me your whole number give me the number son Oh man, I'm not giving up, nigga. Keep talking. Keep talking. Give me your whole number. Give me the number, son. It's your phone.

You stop first. Yo, y'all keep talking. So, yo, when you used to run up on me on TMZ when I was drunk, how did that make you? Yo, you was a daytime motherfucker. You didn't really see me. I was in a day, yeah. I never caught you. You never caught me drunk? They used to get you all the time, though.

But I'm going to tell you one thing that I knew when you was there. Hey, you're so funny. All right. Wait a minute. And I'm going to tell you, I got in a lot of trouble, right? Yo, you know what's so funny? When we were talking about what you have people's names saved under. Yeah.

Yo, this is the funniest shit. I don't know if I ever told you that. You did tell me. Yo, I got him saved. This is when he was at TMZ. I got him saved under, oh, shit, here we go again. Right, yeah. Because I knew I was in trouble again.

But I always knew. There was one time specifically. Remember the- I know what you're talking about. When I always knew. There was one time specifically, remember? I know what you're talking about. When I tried to get you to kill a story. No, no, no. We killed one story. One story we killed, but the other thing you said on video. The Harvey Weinstein shit?

Dave Chappelle, that's his favorite joke. You said that on video. One story we got killed.. You said that on video. One story we got to kill. But you said that on video. I was like, there's nothing. Could you call me the next one? I'm like, yeah, nigga, I saw that. And you're like, well, man, can we not put that on?

I'm like, no. That's you, son. All right, here we go. Hello? Hello? Are you Rodecaster? Hold on, hold on. Put it on Rodecaster.

Hello? Hello? Yes. Hey, Joe. Hold on a second. I think we've. Hey. Hello?

Is this Van? Yes, it's Van through Donnell. Yes. Hello? Hello? Donnell. Somebody's on the phone. Nice to finally talk to you.

Dad? Did you get my dad on the phone? Yes. Oh no, don't do that with alcohol. No, it's okay. He wanted to wish you a happy birthday. We know he's in the hospital and we put it together and I did everything to try to make this phone call

fucking happen. Oh man, that's dope as hell man dad how are you doing are you okay are you having fun i'm a bit drunk oh you're a bit molly monk i'm a bit molly monk that's good that's good it's a birthday i. It's her birthday. I know you even like it. You don't even understand. She's a birthday bitch. Daddy, I'm the birthday bitch. Daddy, I'm the birthday bitch.

Oh, brother Rico, what's up? Are you proud of me? I'm the birthday bitch. Two birthdays. Daddy, you gave birth to a birthday bitch. Well, you didn't give birth, did you? You helped out, didn't you? You did a good job. I mean, mean he was there don't discredit him he wasn't there i'm an ivf baby i don't know

where he was he was in another room no i was there but i know i paid for it that's enough i paid for it oh daddy say hi to my friends. Hello. Hello, everyone. How you doing? I'm not prepared emotionally for this. That's all good. I know you're in the hospital, and I know you're feeling better, and you're going to be released soon.

And I know it's kind of tough for us to put this together all the way from Australia, but it meant everything because she talks about you so much. When you talk about daddy girl, she is the ultimate daddy girl. I mean, she talks about you so much. When you talk about daddy girl, she is the ultimate daddy girl. I mean, she talks about you so much. So I thought it would be cool for her. She only got three friends here, okay? But those three friends. That's stretching it.

That's stretching it. It's my new friend. But we wanted you to be able to wish your daughter a happy birthday. Thank you, Danella. You're a very nice person. I'm not really that nice. I'm just trying to get my viewers up no i'm joking no i love you daddy i really appreciate it i'm gonna have to go boobie i think okay love you all right i love you darling bye everyone all right take care what do I do I just cut the shit off catch a

Bluetooth oh okay disconnect it's a lot to make that happen it was yeah they was gonna throw the towel in and everything but it was important for me because i really believe in life it's so easy to do good shit try to make people happy for it up and our relationship you always got kept me out of trouble i did a joke about harvey weinstein they said well harvey weinstein ever work in hollywood again i said no i mean yes they said why because i said he's a stein and that's when I heard the cameraman breathe hard right he was like what did you say Stein and then me not even shaking I said cuz you take planning nothing fuck yeah right yo yo what's this though what's this so I get

so I get it so yeah wait wait wait so I get in in the morning, right? So I get in. No, seriously. Seriously. So I get in in the morning, right? I get in in the morning. I come in. I see. And, you know, my bosses and my colleagues at TMZ, a lot of them are Jewish.

And I see them around looking at the clip. And, like, they're sitting around. They're looking at the clip. They're looking at his son. And, like, literally Harvey's at's ass desk and he's like like writing his shit up and I'm like no and then I watched the clip and I'm like, yo, this nigga is wilding. Right. Like, wilding. And then you hit, by the time, then you call a little bit later.

I'm like, by the time you called, my nigga, it's on the site. Like, you said it on video. That's going on the site. Yo, I called Dave and I was like this. Yeah. And Dave was like, what happened? I was like, yeah. Then I told Dave what happened. He this, yeah. And Dane was like, what happened? I was like, yeah. Did I tell Dane what happened?

He said, yeah. And I was like this, nigga, we going on the road, nigga. But guess what? So he did that. And it was another time Harvey tried to say I was anti-Semitic or whatever, right? I don't remember that. No, no, you wasn't there anymore. Oh, okay.

Something else had happened, right? And Harvey Weinstein was back in the news right then i was like and i said yo i'm still like that i was like this juta and clint ain't nothing to fuck with we laughed about it i wasn't i ain't got nothing against jewish people anything this shit was funny and at the end of the day i know they were like no it's not fair juta and Klan is really nothing to fuck with. Right. And so I'm not going to fuck with him right now. No.

He can be out there. I'm not going to beat him, man. Man, I don't have no problem. That shit, bottom line is sometimes people don't know how to take me because my shit is always going to be honest. You know what I'm saying? No, real talk. I mean, look, the reality is that I knew that it came with no malice

and no hate, but like. And you laughed too, nigga. I laughed that it came with no mouths No, hey, but like you laugh too. I left course I like yo, yeah Yo, you're so out of whole year. I knew it. Of course. I left I knew it was something you didn't agree with whatever you take your pad and laugh No, it's not that I didn't agree with it is is just that I'm I it was funny Yeah, especially the first time I heard it because I didn't know what was about to be said. Right. And when you said that, I was like, oh, shit. And I looked around and nobody was laughing with me. Yo, this is all going to happen. But I'm going to tell you something.

The funny part about that night, I remember that night. I talked so much that the TMZ niggas closed the thing. Yeah, they were like, hey, we got to break up. Yo, they don't never close that thing. When you see that TMZ motherfucker do like this. He closes and they said, Donnell, just go home, man. He was like this,

we got enough. I ran the whole SD card. This shit was gone. Now, didn't you, after that, didn't you come on TMZ Live so you and Harvey could talk about it or am I tripping or is that something different? Or something happened to where they kind of TMZ live so you and Harvey could talk about it or am I tripping or is that something different? Or

something happened to where they kind of, everybody got together and understood because they asked me they were like, yo, is Donnell at the seminar? I'm like, no. Not at all. As much as people talk shit about TMZ for me, it was a

fucking good platform for me. You get your shit off. I will say this then you guys no matter what situation I got into y'all always gave me a fair shake because that motherfucker that voice could fuck your career up it's about like you know it's time for you know Donnell Rawlings that's Larry yeah yeah saw him. Yeah. Yeah. Then, like, he'll say some shit. Like, I had one clip, and then at the end of it, he could have just shut the fuck up. And then he said, go get another drink. Right.

I'm like, nigga. All right. Yeah, right. Because one time you had gotten to a fight or something like that. In Philly. In Philly, you got into a fight. I made a video about that. That was the one. That was a fire

one for me, son. Yo, I'm telling you, I'm looking like it was Monday. It was a slow day, son. Where Harvey did like this. Harvey, what? I'm acting. I'm acting. I know I'm not in the shot. I'm going to come back as an actor.

Alright, guys. I'm acting. This is called a recreation. You know, Joe, I'm telling you you can say whatever you want, but if you Monday morning and you're the first story and motherfucking Harvey and Tolles walk in like this and he writes the shit on the board.

I'm on camera acting! And when they do like this and when he do his show he say, whoa, we got a big one today! I was like, nigga! I'm on fire, nigga! With no smiles, it's straight up like, yo, whenever you, Harvey show this part,

Van, you know, you was there. He always try to show this part. I think my mic is out. Your mic out, did I knock your mic out? Yeah. Oh man, we're not, did I knock your mic out? All right, hello? I knocked everybody's mic out did i knock your mic out yeah oh man we're not did i knock your mic out all right hello i knocked everybody's mic out i knocked everything out there it's back is it back yes all right it's back is everybody back you know what we can't fuck up the point i was making when

harvey sits down because he always positioning, because he- So you can see his triceps. Did this nigga do curls before he go on air? He just works out a lot. Yeah, he works out a lot. He's right there. When he said, a brawl in Philly. Right.

Nigga, I was all over that shit. That shit blew me up, son. I can't remember what happened. I was in the fucking, I was in the, this was like right before Trump was it was like during this campaign yeah I was in this fucking restaurant and um I went outside to have a cigarette and the lady tried act like I was running out on my check all right right if she went crazy with the shit I was like but my jacket is right there

fuck I looked like running out on my check right I'm going crazy and then this is when um make America great again was building up sign right it was getting strong early days man dumb people in Pennsylvania was so empowered and this what they were saying lock her up remember they were saying lock her up I look inside the bar in the whole place is replaced me as, and they're like, just lock him up. Holy shit. And I'd never been, I'm a celebrity, I'd never been at a place where all white people didn't like me.

Right. They figured out a way to like you if you're a celebrity. I'm like, whoa, these aren't the white people. That's like, are you actually, Larry D was like, lock him up. And I'm in the middle, and this dude swung on me. I swung on him, and then this big motherfucker came out the kitchen, and I was like, please don't hit me, nigga. I'm not trying middle and this dude swung on me. I swung on him and then this big motherfucker came out the kitchen I was like, please don't hit me nigga. I'm not trying to get knocked out. I say I know this would be right on TMZ, right? I said notice would be on TMZ and I swung I know this will be on TMZ.

And I swung. I had some drinks. I missed him and shit. And then the next day, they motherfucking TMZ. Yo, I was asleep. Yeah. Right? I woke up, and I got an email.

This is so-and-so from TMZ. We should talk. Right. About the fight last night. I was so lit. I was like, who fought? Yeah. Right. I was so lit, I was like, who fought? Yeah, right.

Son, I'm not laughing, son. They said, we wanna talk about that fight last night. I was like, yeah, we got him, right? Yo, I'm like, yeah, nigga, we ain't mean to jump him. I ain't know what they said, you fought. And then this artist started coming to me, and I was like, where's TMZ? Somebody was there, videotaped it.

Of course. And sold it to the mother. I don't know how y'all niggas get shit. How they? They. I'm sorry. Word up. Yeah, the former.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't know how they get shit. What you mean? It's Brandon. What's Brandon? What? So, it's Brandon you mean? It's branding. What's branding? What? So it's branding, right?

It's got to be email you could just write. It's a tip line. So right now, if you right now you get a crazy piece of video, what you're going to do with it? I'm going to try to get a hold of TMZ. Right. So. So. So you.

There are. There are all kinds of. Don't get me wrong. The people in that newsroom are some of the best investigative journalists. have to be they amazing y'all made this shit entertaining they amazing amazing but also though there's branding that goes along with that like if you get a piece of video and you think that the piece of video is either worth some money or that the piece of video features a celebrity doing something like that the first thing that you do is you say hey i can get some money i get some money i go to tmz so that means that any time that means that and i

try to tell people all this all the time everybody works for tmz i know because i wanted to work for because any because anybody that gets a piece of video that wants to sell that video they go to one place so you don't have one set of people doing one set of things you got a million 200 million camera phones across the country that that might get a piece of video and they might sell it in one place i never thought like when that altercation was happening i never thought that there was somebody like oh i'm about to get paid but then it made me so this is this is what was interesting too and i was saying myself how easy it is to manipulate the media you know because like I don't know what they do to validate a story but I'm like this I could literally go somewhere and fake some shit what do you mean fake

though that thing that happened in Philly mm-hmm I could easily get four people to say we got this vestibule area right and then we gonna do this crazy as melee in this fight but it's not fake because the video is real yeah I know but I can make a real video don't matter if you it's a fake story is something that if the video is real and they think people are gonna want to watch it don't matter you could be faking it you could be that's what I'm saying so but's what i was saying i'm saying so but the but when you say fake it's not fake if you hire somebody right now if right now it's a video to produce the video is real so right now if if shia labeouf decided he was he wanted to get punched in the face and be on tmz he paid somebody a hundred thousand dollars hundred bucks whatever it's content punch him it don't matter the video is real people are going

there for the video they don't really even care so much about the story behind it. The story is to contextualize the video that people watch. Anytime you get a really good piece of video, unless it's something legal, anytime you get a really good piece of video, the write-up is short. It's very short. You're driving people directly to the video so that they can then watch the video as many times as possible and share it. That's why my headlines headlines be like Dony old

drives down wrong way like they don't even want to make it seem like it was even they made they wrote that like that nigga was fucked up Dony old drives down the wrong way speaking of pieces of video I always say in everyone's career there's a defining moment all right you know I'm saying there's comedians careers tonight that you had to come behind what's your defining moment a defining moment for me I've had defining moments oh wow okay I have I've had a bunch of them. I've had situations where the deck was stacked way against me. And there's someone here, she left, fix your face, bitch,

that I'll give an example of. I was performing with Dave Chappelle at the Hollywood Bowl, right? Hollywood Bowl hosts 18,000 people. For some reason traffic for whatever happened everybody was late to the concert right jeff wills from live nations um he came up to me and he said donnell we got a situation i'm like what he said you got 15 minutes this was at seven o'clock he said you got 15 minutes i I said, okay. He said, but the only thing, nobody's out there. He said, so I could start you five minutes later, and you get 10 minutes, or you can do the whole 15.

I was like, it's not like 18,000 people are going to show up out of nowhere. Give me five minutes. And I went on that stage, and, like, I don't know if you can imagine how 1,200 people looked in 18,000. Did Mickey leave for good? Y'all was there when Chappelle was telling us. No, not the story, but there was somebody that was actually there. But for 18,000 and you performed for 1,200, I couldn't be on stage. I jumped off stage.

I went into the goddamn audience. I went into the audience and I worked 1,200 people to the point where Dave and our whole crew left the hardest thing to do is get artists leave the green room you know they left the green room it came out it was and watched me on stage Wow and that was that was a that was a defining moment yeah work and it was like I didn't think it did, it didn't define my career, but it was like, you know how you feel like, you feel a point where,

motherfucker, you could put me in any situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I'm gonna come out and win. Yeah, I'm gonna figure something out. My personal, and this might not have been with, you might not agree with this, but with Kanye West, it's gonna lead me to a lot of conversation on this,

when Kanye West was first hypnotized, when I don't know what Candace Owens had. I don't know if she had WAP before it was invented. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Candace got that Erykah Badu type of energy. When I say that, it's like an energy that if a motherfucker catches the wrong way, it's just going to switch the whole shit up. Word.

And Kanye West was Kanye West. Kanye West was somebody that we respect through what they did in hip-hop, what they did in fashion. Kanye West, whether he believed it or not at the time, he was a voice. Yeah, sure. He was a voice for the black community. And you didn't agree with his thoughts.

Right. And when you did that, man, it felt like, man, and I say this all the time, today sometimes, I know this is going to get me fired you know i'm saying is that you're like when you put it out there like this sure uh and you said something and you spoke for a lot of people and you spoke for um and you spoke in a way you wasn't angry nigga sure you're not mad at all and and you laid it down yeah what was it that uh and for people don't know that irritated you about his behavior at that point in his career well nothing irritated

me i don't think i was irritated but i was hurt you know what i mean so what what creatives don't understand a lot of times is that people take these journeys with them. And you go with somebody. You evolve with them. You evolve with them. So way back in the day, I remember my mom coming up to me when Ye was first doing this thing. And I was listening to it all the time. And she was like, man, who is this Kanye West that you don't listen to anything else?

Who said that? Your mom? My mother. Because my mother came in one time and she heard Curtis Mayfield. She heard the sample, but it was Touch the Sky, right? So she's like, you really love this guy. Like, you really love him. Like, he's different than everybody else.

Now, remember now, as a hip-hop fan, you know, you grow up and you listen to all different types of rap. But in the 90s, when Hov and them and Big and them are rapping about all of these things, you have a knowledge of them and an understanding of them culturally because of the place that i come from in south baton rouge but i never did any of those things right so in a little in a way rap can make you an imposter it can make you sing lyrics about stuff that you will never do oh my gosh shout out to 6ix9ine. Right. Yo, nigga, are you dumb or stupid?

Ah-ha! Ah-ha! Ghost. Right, right. It can. It can. It can make you into that. It can make you.

Yo, it's fake. Go ahead, son. Yeah, it can make you, you know, sing lyrics about stuff you'll never do. Talk about ways that you actually don't treat people and all of that stuff like that, right? But when Ye came along, there wasn't nothing about that it was all truth right it was i worked at the gap i didn't like the job this is what i did this is everybody who's stunning on me i didn't grow up i didn't pop out of the womb a winner like at the end of college dropout when you listen to the album that long winding story that he tells about how he got to success

is completely different than where Hov came from. Hov came out, Hov is the big man in the streets, then he starts rapping, he goes somewhere, guy asks him to rap, Hov say, I don't rap for free. Everybody like, wow. Ye was completely the other way, completely vulnerable. I bought into it, it was like a big part of my life at that point because i'm 23 i'm just coming out of college i'm looking around i'm like what kind of world is out there for me and there's an artist who's reflecting that and you evolve with him and everything that he's talking about the relationship with god right like how you in between two worlds like i'm in school but like around that time is really when my niggas really started getting killed. Right.

So all of that stuff, like over years and years and years, someone builds up cachet with you to what then when they start doing things that are at cross purposes to what you believe or against your morals, you defend them because you got time put in. And you did. And I did for years and years and years doesn't matter what yay did so what was your this nigga here point but the the this nigga here point was when see because what happens is you give somebody a cultural weapon you build it for them right so like they say all of this stuff and then you take it so when when his behavior started to become a situation to where he took some shots at some people and he never really explained why he was saying what he was saying the first thing his defense could it be do you think his defense could be

because I look at a situation his defense could have been I don't owe you niggas nothing well the artists owe you something because they fell in love with you a certain way no no no no no but we don't owe them anything either right so that's the thing no he doesn't owe anyone anyone when i when i what i was meaning was when kanye west was up there talking about the fact that he loves donald trump he wasn't giving us a reason as to why i get it he wasn't saying okay this is what donald trump means to me and he to be honest with you he really never has he said a bunch of things that are peculiar but he's really never given any reason as to why he's so enamored with him. So what ended up happening was, you know, you can say all of that shit.

I don't give a fuck who you vote for. I don't give a fuck who you vote for. I don't give a fuck who you don't like. You don't like Obama. You got problems with Hope. That's cool. He came against one group that no black person in this country can come against. What's that?

The Ancestors. Okay. No black person in this country can come against. What's that? The ancestors. Okay. Like everybody in here that's the descendant of a slave is the descendant of a survivor. Right. Of somebody that survived, of a lineage that goes from people that survived the transatlantic slave trade, a lineage of people that got whipped and beaten and destroyed. You don't get to impugn what they went through. Go ahead.

No, so I'm just saying, so at the point that you say you imply that they were weak in some kind of way, well, now we have to talk about what the fuck you're getting Yo Facts from and who do you think you are to talk about them. Because you can make 10 million amazing albums. It don't give you the right to talk shit about Harriet Tubman. It's just the real. It's just a fact. You haven't done enough.

You can't do enough. Where did the poison come from, son? Somebody slipped him. Somebody. A lot of people think the poison came from the family he's associated with. A lot of people think the poison came from the death of his mother, not having to be able to fall back. But where was the poison?

And I can understand when he hooked up with Candace, I can understand part of what he was thinking was like this. I want to be an independent thinker. That's cool. I don't want to be just do what my grandma said, my great-grandma said. I want to evaluate the situation and make my choices. But somewhere it got to the point where, in case of what you're saying,

where he was being disrespectful to his ancestors. Where did that, where do you think it came from? Well, I think we all, especially people like that, right? So, number one, there's no such thing as somebody who don't need no tighten up, right? Who don't need no tighten up. Who just, you can't have that. You can't live a life and not be accountable to anyone but if you are the top of the pyramid right if you're the guy whose ideas power a large part of a culture

but certainly power the people around you then the question that people should be asking themselves in their lives not just Kanye West but all over the places who's telling me no you know to me like who's saying hey that's that's not that's not that right right ye has a lot of things going on he's he's been very open about his his his struggles with mental health and those things are real right and i personally think and i'm not going psychoanalyze the brother i personally think that the care that he needs is sometimes not given to him because of his importance to the people in his life. Now, I'm not going to.

That's not an excuse. You're still as a man, 43 years old, you're responsible for what it is that you say. But think about how the music changed, how the fabric of who Kanye west changed when he got around a new group of people right you know i'm saying like like he got like he gets excited about being around the new thing right and also there's a fundamental if you listen to him talk there's a a fundamental love and um and sort of passion for whiteness that I've really never seen in a black man before. I'm just being for real.

Like yeah, so. Yo nigga, I know you can fuck with white people. I know you can do a lot of shit, but nigga you said the passion. A passion for whiteness. The passion to be around it or to be it. No, so go like. Or accepted by it.

Nah, go up to a brother or sister and ask them five people that they admire, right? They might tell you a bunch of people, but you're going to have some people in there that are from your culture and have overcome and achieved things in your culture. Think about when you hear Ye talk. I am Leonardo. I am Da Vinci. I am Walt Disney. I am Steve Jobs.

No city party. am all of these people I changed the world I am a nigga, one. Right, like he's gotta find one guy. Yes. He went on a whole, a whole run around 2015, 2016 about all of these designers in France and in Europe and we don't have no fucking clue who these guys are. Right. We talking about all of this shit. But we love buying shit that we can't pronounce.

We do, but. I give me a pen and bottle of Uchianis. I know, we do, but he's telling us about problems and about all of this stuff and we you know people can't relate but and i understand that those problems for him are real but i guess what i'm saying is that when you're like when you're that way and then a man who is all almost the mascot for whiteness right donald trump right you also love him there's something about that

we want to know that we want to know why we want to know why right there's somebody wants to know why so there's something about that energy that attracts kanye west it's the energy it's that energy the energy is like i don't give a fuck about would nobody think about me to whatever extent which gives me this with me like like there's a lot of people what most important thing is to vote that's the most important thing i feel like i'm gonna be BET right now encouraging people to vote. And the only reason why I'm saying that is because, like, you just have to. Everybody saw whoever your political choice is, you have to vote for them.

You have to go out in numbers, right? But Donald Trump, and this is interesting because this election, there are going to be a lot of closet voters for Donald Trump. Of course. There's going to be some motherfuckers that's like, I'm not going to stump for Trump. But I like that tax situation. I like the way he supports the veterans and shit.

It's going to be those people, right? Right. And I don't know if anybody knew about this. Ice Cube is, they're trying to drag him. Sure. They're trying to drag him. And I'm kind of familiar with it, but Ice Cube came up with a plan to benefit black people and black communities, to empower them,

to give them opportunities. And it was called a platinum plan. Well, no, that's Trump's plan. Trump's plan is a platinum plan. Ice Cube's plan is the contract with black America. Okay, so here's where the confusion. If any nigga I knew was extra black to do everything about this, right? I'm telling you, I was like, oh, this is going to be black day. I've been thinking

about this shit all day. I ain't come from the Bataroo story. I was like, this is gonna be black day. I've been thinking about this shit all day. I ain't come for them batteroo stories. I was like this this motherfucking dr. Martin Luther King ass nigga gonna know the answer to everything. Right. I know. I'm like this right up his motherfucking socially conscious fucking alley. This is a 99 mile per hour fucking strike zone the meat section like why and I've been seeing people with the memes trying to paint ice cube as a sellout all right all this type of shit a sharp a rocker what's the motherfucker South Carolina of Senator motherfucker uh Bacardi sellers yeah he said that shout out to my brother yeah

and he's a good brother like certain motherfuckersuckers, when I see them, I'm like, they're going to give me all the black shit they need to know. And whatever niggas they fucking with, I'm fucking with. Right? And Bakari, he didn't really call him out, but he said that Ice Cube went for the shiny shit. Yeah. And I know people that have walked away for $52 million.

Shout out to Dave Chappelle, right? Right on. And they had to have the integrity to be able to do that and understand what they were standing on, right? Mm-hmm. Why is black America so frustrated with Ice Cube and his efforts to better the black community. And to my understanding, he reached out to the Democrats and he reached out to the Republicans

and the Republicans were the first ones to respond it. They didn't say he fucked with Trump, but they responded to it. Why is Ice Cube being dragged in the black community? Okay, a couple things. The first thing is there's the black community's problems and what's going on in the black community you have to have serious people that are talking about these solutions so if anybody's talking about those solutions and

they want to talk to you about them it's up to you to decide whomever you might be ice cube or anybody else whether or not those conversations will be substantive and you can get anything done. So here's the issue that a lot of people and myself. Now, I tweeted an insult at Ice Cube, but then I deleted it because I don't believe in. You what? I tweeted an insult at Ice Cube. So you went off for what you heard. I tweeted house niggas with attitude.

Nigga. Well, I did. It was wrong. And the reason why I do this. Off of one plan, sir? But let me tell you. Yo, nigga.. It was wrong. And the reason why I do this. Off of one plan, son? But let me tell you. Yo, nigga. Let me tell you.

You threw the talent off of one joint? I didn't. It was wrong. But first of all, I don't believe in. I was just trying to be funny. So you're trying to say house niggas similar to Kanye West that's so passionate about being white. Right. You thought that Ice Cube had the same passion as Kanye West.

I'll tell you what my mistake was. Are you praying right now? Am I what? Are you praying? I'm not praying. Because you closed your eyes. No, I'll tell you what my mistake was. My mistake was the fact-

I've been through body language. You've been through body language? What the fuck does that mean? Oh, body language. Yeah, when you close your eyes, it's like first grade. No, no, no. It was a moment. Are you asking for a new part. No, no, no, no. It was a moment. Are you gonna ask me for a new part?

No, I don't smoke. That's what them niggas do when they get right to the niche. Nigga, they do like, just give me a new part. Nah, I'm being honest with you. It was a whack tweet, but I was upset about it.

I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what the problem is. That just hurt me. With Ice Cube's deal. I'll tell you what the problem with it is to me, personally. Number one. Apologize to NWA. Well,. Number one, apologize to NWA.

I'm not apologizing to NWA. I'm not apologizing. I deleted it. That's enough. He didn't see it. He doesn't give a fuck what I think. It's never deleted. And he shouldn't. Somebody probably screenshot it. Right. This is the issue. Two things about it. Number one, what Ice Cube said Was both the Democrats And the Republicans

Came to him About I gotta smudge you You just said You call Ice Cube A house nigga I gotta smudge you Get this energy out of here

So both Go ahead nigga Palo Santo He said both Democrats And Republicans Came to him about his plan Right He said

The Democrats said Let's wait till after the election And the Republicans said Let's talk about the plan now Am I smudged? Am I good? Nah nigga I gotta light this shit Harder than that Keep going nigga He said, the Democrats said, let's wait till after the election. And Republicans said, let's talk about the plan now. Am I smudged? Am I good? Nah, nigga.

I got to light this shit harder than that. Keep going, nigga. Go ahead. All right. So here's my issue with it. I'm sorry, man. Go ahead. I'm just hurt.

Go ahead. Just fucking finish it so you don't interrupt me again when I start talking. I meant calm. I thought nigga had to blunt in his hand. He kept doing that. I was like, nigga, pass that shit. Go ahead. All right.

I'm sorry. Go ahead. All right. So here's the issue. Back to you saying Ice Cube is Uncle Tom. Well, no, he's not an Uncle Tom. I don't know whether he's not an Uncle Tom. House nigger. They're the same family.

They're cousins. He's not a house nigger for what he does. House niggers and Uncle Toms are cousins. And by the way, we shouldn't be so quick. And that was my bad. We shouldn't be so quick to call each other coons and house niggers and all that. I know. That's true.

It's the truth, son. That hurts. Yeah. You shouldn't do that. So's that was up on my part but what i'll say is this so these things aren't uniform so with with with ice cube saying that the democrats say we'll wait for it until we do it after the election well there's a reason for that the the democrats right now they if they were to if they were to talk Joe Biden specifically, if they were to talk to Ice Cube about

any plan that he has for black America right now, it would just be lip service because they can't do it. They don't have the Senate and they don't have the executive branch. So they're writing a check that's going to bounce. Well, there's nothing that they can do. If the Democrats wanted to right now, if the Democrats wanted to right now,

they couldn't give the black community $500 billion. Because it would be negated. Because if they came up with that plan and somehow made it through the House, it got to the Senate, it was going to be dead. And then Trump, and even the Senate did, Trump could veto. They couldn't make the deal. Right. Okay, so right now, them talking about that, them saying after the election, what they're saying is, after the election, we'll have power to do things like that. Let's discuss it then.

Something to discuss. Okay. And here's the second thing about President Trump, and this is kind of the more pernicious thing about talking to guys like President Trump and the administration. So, this is not a political show. This nigga's just smart as shit.

He know all of this. Right, right, right. Ladies and gentlemen, before you forget about it, this is not a political show, but if you need to know some shit, this is the nigga that can tell you. He used 18 syllable words.

You know what that means? It's prod-i-tious. That's like five or six. And back to you and your thoughts. Sorry. Just what do you think? Like, that was awesome.

P-B-A-R. Nah, I'm just trying to, I don't want to be NPR. I'm answering the question. So here's the deal. If Donald Trump wanted to give $500 billion think like they'll just think awesome pb awesome um no i don't want to be i'm gonna answer the question so here's the deal if donald trump wanted to give 500 billion dollars to the african american community he doesn't need an election to do that and he doesn't need ice cube to do that he could do it he could right now work with his people his his his uh his his his republican

friends in the house he could draft a bill to economically empower Black Americans. He could put pressure on the Democrats in the House to pass that bill or either say no to it. It would then pass in the Senate where they have a majority. That's back then, but I'm talking about right now. If a nigga get a half a billion dollar badge,

should they take it, son? But you're not listening, though. What I'm saying is that you're talking to President Trump, and what you don't understand is that the purpose of them talking to you is not so they can actually give black people $500 billion, because had they wanted to do that, he's been in office three and a half years. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Ice Cube didn't secure the half a billion dollar bag. No, there's no half a billion dollar bag.

Oh, Uncle Tom ass nigga sellout ass cracker loving ass fucking fucking wet dog ass. Oh, wet dog bitches. You didn't get the check. It's not going to be a check. I knew I ain't fuck with that N.W. fakeW fake NWA ass niggas with white bitches ass motherfucker. Thought the nigga had the check. No, there's no check. They talked about some things.

What the fuck is going on? I thought the nigga had the bag, son. There's no check. And he didn't say that there was a check. He said that they took some of the things from the contract to Black America and they're putting it in the platinum plan. My point is that Black Americans, they should feel conned by the Trump administration

because all of these things, the administration could have been done if they had wanted to do those things for Black people. Three weeks to the election. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. White boy, shut up. Right, wait, wait. White boy show. That's what you need. Listen. You're trying to tell me. Hold on.

Am I not... Am I understanding that there's no check? No, there's no check. I'ma shoot you again. Ain't no check. There's no check? No, there's no check. I'm going to shoot you again. Ain't no check? There's no check.

And do you realize that $500 billion is not even enough money? What? $500 billion is not enough money to solve the problems of the black community. Do you know how much money black people are owed for everything that we did in slavery and building america it's 500 billion dollars doesn't begin to answer that question right i ain't talking about them niggas me i thought like ice cube get the check for half a billion i'd be like yo remember when um we supposed to work together give Give me my shit.

Right. You thought he was going to come through. It just looked good. So that is the shiny part. Right. So what happened, I mean,

I don't know if Bakari's opinion is Bakari's opinion, but when Katrina Pearson came out and said that Ice Cube was working with Donald Trump, the purpose of them

talking to him was to do that. The Trump administration believes with some evidence that they have inroads to make with black men they think that they can win black men so what they basically that whole thing was to say hey in my opinion the whole thing was to say hey we got ice cube ice cube doesn't mind working with us and that's why what i'm saying is if you don't go to the white house and talk to donald trump go to the white house and talk to Donald Trump. Go to my house and talk to Donald Trump. But don't go until the check is being signed. You know, nigga, I thought, son, I didn't know. I thought he was like,

I thought it was like this, son. No. He didn't get the check. No. And there's also something to be said for the differences. I'm not talking, I'm not saying don't talk to Republicans. Right. But I am saying you might not want to talk to that Republican because this guy is different. And I was confused because I was like, why is everybody upset? If he came up with a plan, whether it was a platinum, whatever he decided to call it. I just keep trying to help.

And that's what I thought. I was like this. And you don't look at like, I didn't look at the huge picture, but I'm like this. It didn't sound like he was like, yo, Donald Trump, all this. It was like this. It felt like he was negotiating for a motherfucker to get something. But I did not know the check.

I thought it was like done. The issues that Ice Cube were raising are good issues. So what's the difference between Ice Cube and Jay-Z with the NFL? There's really no difference. So why everybody mad at Ice Cube, but they ain't mad at Jigga? A lot of people were mad at Jay-Z. Then why did it just go away? It went away because

of time we got more to think about is sick ain't nobody thinking about that now but at the time at the at the time that jay-z did what he did so you said about corona so you're trying to say corona made not think about jay-z in the nfl just i think a lot of things that i think you know it comes out but how long can you be mad about something once again people have different another thing that people have to understand is people have different ways of doing things right can you work with somebody you can't stand of course that people do it every day jutang clint shut the fuck up people do it people do it shut the fuck up son i'm not about to get into all of that shit people do it every people do every day. You scared to say Jutan Clan?

I'm not on that shit. Okay, could you say, if I say. Okay. No, no, fuck no. No, no, no. Okay, sir. Just do, you do the second part. I'm not doing nothing.

All right, listen to this. Fuck all of that. Yo, listen, you don't have to do all that. No. I just say Jutan Clan. No. No. So, listen. You don't have to do all that. No. I just say, Ju-Tang Clan. No. I don't know. No.

So, it's. Okay. Can Ju-Tang Clan be fucked with? I'm not answering. This guy is fucking insane. No way. No. No.

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If there's three people you would say you wouldn't fuck with. Mm-hmm. Okay. Let's say the Washington football team. Okay. Are they to fuck with? No. Is the Washington football team to fuck they the fuck with no is the washington football team to fuck with no i need your honest opinion no no not to fuck with no no all right all right

so okay moving along with people who are not to fuck with. Is Jutang Clan anyone to fuck with? No, no, no. No. Fuck no. Are they or ain't they? Are they or ain't they? I'm not.

I have nothing to do with it. So you're just saying is Jutang Clan are to fuck with? I'm not saying nothing about. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're speaking like people like. So fan, Jutang are to fuck with. I'm not saying anything. If you had to fuck with someone, would it be the Jutang clan? I love and have love for all of my peoples.

I didn't say I didn't love them, but if you had to fuck with somebody, Van. Hey, nobody is to fuck with. Nobody is to fuck with. We shouldn't fuck with anybody. You know what, Van? What? We talked about me being on the Red Pill. That's a podcast where if I come there, I will not.

I got a new podcast now. You don't fuck with that one no more? I don't do it anymore. All right, what you do now, son? Higher learning for the ringer. Higher learning. Big podcast, by the way. Big podcast.

You want to come on there? You can't come on there with the whole. What? So you don't want me to be on there? I would love for you to be on there. I would love for you to come on there? You can't come on there with the whole... What? So you don't want me to be on there? I would love for you to be on there. So what you're saying, Donnell, come on my show and don't be you. No, I would love for you to be on there. So what?

I can't come on there? Say the words I can't say. Say the words I can't say. I'm not going to say them. Guess what? I already know what I can't say. Can I say this? Can I say this?

Oh, my God. Jutan Clan. What do you think it says? Jutan Clan. Take a guess. Jutan Clan. Can we say it? I don't know if you can say it.

No, Jutan Clan, question mark. I'll say Jutan Clan. We can say it. No, question mark. I'm making it like Jutan Clan. You can say it. No, no, he can't say it. No, question mark. I'm making it like Jutan clan. You can say it. No, no, he can't say it. No, by the way, that shit don't work.

Because I've seen that shit play on the other side. Like I give somebody permission to say the N-word. That shit don't work. You can't. We're not going to say nigga. Yeah, I can't give you that. Hey, man, we're not saying nigga on this show. Just be clear.

Right. So Jutan clan. Those are equal, though. No, no, no, no, no. If you say clan in the N-word, that's equal. I don't have a career. We're not saying nigga on this show. Just be clear right so you think Please I don't have a I don't have a career, okay I Get it van. I hope it puts you in an uncomfortable situation I'm not saying I'm not saying right. I'm going to have a question here. Okay? the question isn't or is to with with i'm going to ask that question my podcast listen i understand what you're saying and the reason why i continue

to say it because i don't mean it in no i don't mean it in no up way right you know what i'm saying but you understand why i get it you understand why jewish people are upset at you saying that i don't understand you don't understand you're right you know? But you understand why. I get it. You understand why Jewish people are upset at you saying that. I don't understand. You don't understand. Why? You don't understand why. I know why they're upset.

Why? Because it propagates a belief. That they run Hollywood. That they run things and will power over people and all of that. It propagates that belief. And in the past. And look. But look.

But look. Donnell. Donnell. that they propagates that belief and in the past and look but look but look donnell but donnell but in the past in the past beliefs like that about jewish people were used as excuses to exterminate them right so back in the day what hitler told everybody was that the jews control all the banks they control all the money and they control all of that stuff right and so in order to kind of get their influence out we got to round them up and kill them so anytime okay i never i know that i never know i never heard it broke down like that so guess what i want to make an apology okay i want to apologize what i realized through this podcast Jew 10 clan is to fuck with. Okay. Come on.

It is. What I'm saying is like I any Jewish people that listen to I really apologize. Listen, I know you guys don't control Hollywood. I had some drinks and I just thought that up. I understand. I know you guys have

no power. No'm not in Hollywood. No, no, no. I'm just saying just for the ones that could ruin my career, this could be chopped up and mean so many things. Oh, good catch, Stephanie. For all the Jewish people, here's the irony of it. It's like there's three of them I'm going to have to answer to once this podcast is over.

Who are those? They they steins and birds just i thought you meant three specific people it's not three specific people you you have jewish you have jewish friends have they ever have you ever talked to them about like what what they've what the community has been through they speak very eloquently about it they do speak very eloquently about it and they um when i say i mean i know it's gonna be wrong most of my jewish friends when i say jute clan ain't none of a fuck when they say word all right there's no way i going to save my career after this podcast. As if I was concerned about it.

I think people come to this podcast to hear truth and honesty, and it's uncut. Van, I understand what you're saying. You don't want to get into that. You're a reporter. I'm not. I'm a nigga from the streets that went to the creeks. But this is the way I really feel. That's the way you really feel.

I know. I went from the streets to the creeks. From the hoods to the woods. I went from whores to oars. From Adidas to Tevas. You a swamp, nigga. You fuck with bios. Yeah. You are the future of reporting.

You're the... Can I ask you a question, though, before we go? I want to ask one question. I was being deep right now. I fucked my back. No, go ahead. I just want to say that you are the future. You're the voice we need.

You're the voice that we want to listen to. Appreciate you, dog. And what do you want to say about me? I want to ask you. Can I get a Tito's and Tonic? No, I'm joking. I saw you post a video with DJ Envy and Charlamagne doing the WAP. Yes.

No, they was doing the WAP, and it was so funny because everyone knows that when I think of Breakfast Club, I love them, but they're like little kids you got to smack every once in a while. And the reason why I posted this video, because Charlamagne and God and Envy, they know, like the American knows, they like booty jokes. Me, being from the streets, from a swamp, nigga, you understand. There's a limit of booty jokes you can do before it gets annoying and then people just want to attack you and just keep doing booty shit. There's a very popular video that was out.

These Yosses from Atlanta. Yoss. Yoss. You know what Yoss. these yas's from Atlanta. Yas. Yas. You know what yas. They was like, Yas, yas, yas.

The yas's from Atlanta did this video to WAP and they was like dropping it hard. Killing it. The bottom of their butt was hitting the ground. They had wet ass dicks and the song was

wet ass pussies. And they was bouncing like, yas, yas. But didn't they, they did a great job. They it not I don't say great it was a perfect video for me to do a deep fake and switch it out and have DJ envy in fact I think I might I can't do the music, but I'll let you I'm going to do it. I'll let you guys see it, but I did a spoof of DJ Envy

and Charlamagne Tha God doing WAP. Right. And guess what? You couldn't tell a difference. Them niggas was working. The children had spoken. They was like, yes. They was serving face. The community knows what that means. Right.

But it's all love with the Breakfast Club, though. I hate them niggas. It's love. Shut up, nigga. It's love. No, no, no. Okay, I'll put it like this. This is what I'll say.

I love to hate on them niggas. And it is all love. But, you know. I these ah and it is all love but you know i get it it is all love it's one of those relationships poke back and forth but after you go back at the end of the day at the end of the day um i still don't with them no at the end of the day they have a platform i'm gonna create the pla i'm creating a platform. And when I attack you, just remember it's all in humor. You can take it for what it is. Word up. All right.

Thank you, son. Last time. Last time what? No, I'm not saying that shit. All right. That's the end of the Don Air Rollins Show. I want to thank my special guest, Van. He's a smart, intelligent

bio motherfucker. He knows the difference between the street and the creek. I want to shout out to Alyssa Harp. Happy birthday. You don't know her, but I know her as the birthday bitch. We got a phone call from her dad in Australia. I want

to thank the motherfucking chick in the back. I call her fixture face Mickey. But one thing I love about her when she fix her face, she has ideas to make me money. The Donnie O'Rollins Show. This is episode 46, 47, whatever it is.

I like when a white boy is shutting the fuck up when I'm talking. Fixture glasses, tilt it, and we'll be back next week. Shout out to all the niggas that have a curb in their dick because we win good night everybody Thank you.