Donnell - That's My Mans
Episode Date: January 11, 2020Episode #007 is the ONE. The ONE to watch. The ONE to share. The ONE to watch again and again. Donnell Rawlings brings Jimmy Martinez (@JimmysKonduct, @FireInTheHoleNY), Andy Singer (@bear...dedhumor) and Jermaine '40' Johnson (@40_production) to speak about brotherhood, fatherhood and life in the hood of D.C. and NYC. Stories from the streets, stories from the heart.....The Donnell Rawlings Show --------------------------------------- Check out Donnell's upcoming tour dates coming to a city near you: http://www.donnellrawlings.com/whereisdonnellrawlings Like, Subscribe & Follow Donnell on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thedonnellrawlingsshowFacebook: http://www.facebook.com/donnellrawlingsofficial Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/donnellrawlings Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/donnellrawlings Website: http://www.donnellrawlings.com Hashtag: #donnellrawlings, #2soonwithdonnellrawlings, #toosoon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I heard these niggas is for real.
Dog.
Uh-huh.
That's my man, Zinem.
But I heard these niggas supposed to be like,
locking down the industry on some shit,
on some power shit.
Dog, that's my man, Zinem.
Mmm.
So what I'm doing.
Right, right.
My man, Zinem, is doing.
Because.
Right.
That's my man, Zinem.
You know.
I feel you. Now you feel know. I feel you.
Now you feel me.
I feel you.
I'm in New York right now, and I'm hanging out with my African-American friends.
You want to say something?
I'm African-American, but I'm very white.
I'm not black, but I'm definitely African-American.
I'm from South Africa.
Okay.
Cheers, cheers.
You know Trevor Noah?
Of course I do.
Do you know him?
He dated my best friend.
He dated your best friend?
All right.
I think that's going to end the interview.
We're going to go to the studio right now.
My question, alright, let me, I got, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I got to ask
you this question.
I got to ask you this question.
No, I got to ask you this question.
I got to ask you this question.
Have you ever heard of the term mansus?
No.
No.
What is a mansus?
A mansus?
Yeah, that's a good fucking question.
Well, dear, a mansus is a term to when you express, so you don't know the definition of mansus? A mansus? Yeah, that's a good fucking question. Well, dear, a mansus is a term to when you express...
So you don't know the definition of mansus?
No.
You know, like you say, that's my mans, that's my mans.
Oh, that's my mans, my people. It all depends on where you from. Where you from, then?
Nigga! You ain't got one mans!
Mansus, like that's my mansus in them?
No.
Do you know DMX?
Yeah.
I'm from DC by way of Brooklyn, New York.
Oh, you ain't from the east, man. You from Paris. You been to Paris? Paris, New Jersey? Yeah. Yeah'm from D.C. by the way. You're from the East, man.
You've been to Paris? Yeah, I was in New Jersey.
Yeah, they shoot people. Damn right.
Unless you my mans in them. And this is
the first dude that I didn't talk to
in Harlem, New York that don't have
one goddamn mans.
I got brothers.
Brothers? Yo, so your family could be mans?
Yeah, but I ain't gonna lie.
They not my brothers by blood. They my brothers by the barn that we got. You can't shoot your mans. You can family could be mans. Yeah, but I ain't gonna lie, but you feel me? Like, they not my brothers by blood.
They my brothers by the barn that we got.
You can't shoot your mans.
You can't shoot your mans.
But your mans can shoot another man's mans.
Who are mans's?
Yeah, like, that's my mans.
That's my mans.
If you were to take a stab at what a mans's is,
what would it be?
Mans.
Like a homeboy, right?
A homeboy, yeah.
Somebody you ride or die with.
Right.
And where'd you build the bond?
He built the bond from us getting out here together.
Right.
And going through the same struggle.
So that's a man's.
No, that's not really a man's.
That's my brother.
Word is bought.
If it's not your man's, the man's can get your man's.
But when DMX said in his song, in that intro, he said, that's my mans.
I think it was deeper than just being somebody that you know, don't you?
I don't know.
DMX come from a different era.
I'm in a different era than DMX.
Oh, you the mumble era.
Can a mans just be a female?
Yeah.
It is?
I think so.
Fuck me if I know.
Whoa, too much information.
This lady's off the hook.
We talk about two generations.
DMX represents a generation when your waist was a 32, but you wore a size 42.
Sun Rep represents...
If your waist is a 31, you wear a 31.
Yo, that's the new generation, son.
You heard the term mansus, right?
Mansus?
Yeah, like that's my man.
Yeah, absolutely.
What is that definition?
What does that mean to you?
Well, it means that, you know, the person that you're dealing with is good people.
Right.
You know, if they're your manzas, that means that, you know, they're willing to support you in all the things that you need to do.
Right.
You know, they behind you 100%.
So that's what would make them your manzas.
Right.
So somebody say they're manzas, and then when you need them to step to the plate, they don't step to the plate.
That's not really your manzas, they don't step to the plate.
That's not really your mansers, right?
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
That's actually what we call F-A-L, foul individual.
Filed mansers.
Filed mansers.
You be my mansers?
I be your mansers.
All right.
God damn, it's easy to get a mansers out here in these.
Can you want to do a little outro?
I have a show that's called The Donnelly Rawlings Show.
Can you send a message to all my fans out there?
It's a podcast, it's on YouTube, and it's streaming everywhere.
What message do you want to send to all my fans out there?
I want to send a message to all my fans out there. I want to send a message to all my fans out there. I want to send a message to all my fans out there. I want to send a it's called the donna roland show can you send a message to all my fans out there it's a podcast it's on youtube
and streaming everywhere what message to you would you send to my fans
oh my god she is out of control ladies and gentlemen see if that was me i would be locked
up right now oh no wait what's the name of my podcast there's no such thing it's called a
donna roland show You never heard of it?
Check it out.
One of you niggas is going to jail.
One of you niggas is going to jail.
You!
You!
Hut.
Hut.
Hut. I don't know how we start. Can I start the show?
I can start the show?
All right, this is Donnell Rawlins, a.k.a. Donnell Rawlins.
If anybody's listening or watching this podcast,
hopefully you watched some of the beginning of my podcast.
This podcast, The Donnelly Rawlins Show,
started five episodes ago.
It was inspired by the king of podcasts, Mr. Joe Rogan,
and then doubly inspired by the musical talents of the RZA,
a.k.a. leader of the Wu-Tang Gang, a.k.a. Bobby Digital.
So when I first started this podcast,
I wanted to be clear with everybody
that I don't know what the fuck
we're going to do with this show.
This is the Donnelly and Rollins show
that's an umbrella for a lot of things.
Sometimes you may see me in the studio.
Sometimes you may see me in the street.
Sometimes you may see me rocking
with my beautiful and very angry, nasty, so disrespectful to me co-host Kate Quigley, who couldn't be on this episode.
And I'll explain why a little later. But what I'm trying to hear, not just on stand-up, not just on television, not just in the movies, but just on some daily or at least weekly thing.
And part of that was to do some of the episodes in Los Angeles, California.
Shout out to Hollywood Improv for letting us do podcasts in Bud Freeman's office.
Part of it is going to be in Kate Quigley's living room some of it is going to be on the street
but holiday season
so I had to travel
I got a lot of good friends in New York City
a lot of friends I want to visit
but I did not want to stop
the progress of the Donna
Rowland show because I know you
trolling motherfuckers will find something
to fucking
talk about
yeah we like his podcast but it's not consistent Trolling motherfuckers will find something to fucking talk about.
Yeah, we like his podcast, but it's not consistent.
Yeah, he got a good podcast, but maybe he should shut up sometime and let his co-host talk.
Yeah, he needs more content.
Yeah, this.
Yeah, that.
And I try to acknowledge you motherfuckers, but at the end of the day, I give a fuck.
But at the same time, not at the same time, I don't give a fuck, because I got to have my true voice,
and some of you motherfuckers have commented
and said that we love your true voice,
and for those people, I appreciate you,
and for the negative people, I appreciate you
also. I'm getting a little
winded, long story short,
the production,
the production
has moved for an episode
to New York City.
As you can see now,
what I surround us,
we're very consistent
with our production in L.A.,
meaning bootleg as a motherfucker.
I'll probably try to get a shot of this
some kind of way.
If somebody,
I'm gonna probably get a shot
of our whole setup.
I mean, we got like about $42,000
worth of equipment,
which I...
This motherfucker. This show is so
disrespectful.
This show is so disrespectful.
Would y'all let me... What up, Donnell?
What's going on, son? How you feeling? Happy holidays.
I know you have no podcast etiquette.
Oh, my bad. I know you have no podcast
etiquette. This is a podcast? Yeah, this is
a podcast. Alright? I know
you guys have no podcast etiquette, but what I was
trying to do in the world of podcasts is introduce
and set up the backstory of what's going
on in the podcast.
See, I knew that. I knew that. I knew that.
And that's why I was going to wait. But since everybody
else came in, I just thought I would just join
in with everybody else.
I knew what you were doing.
Again, if we were doing this as a professional, if we had a staff, if we had a staff,
where people are like, okay, okay, Jimmy, you go in now.
Okay, pull up.
Jermaine, 40.
Now, I'm going to get to the fact of I called one person two names, Jermaine and 40.
First off, this episode is called the Manson's episode. Now I'm going to get to the fact of I called one person two names Jermaine and First of all
This episode
This episode is called
The Manson
The Manson episode
And it's a word
It's a word
It's singular and it's plural
It's a word that I use a lot
It's a word that I use
First of all
I'm going to put a disclaimer
I'm not responsible for the actions
The voices The opinions Of anybody on this fucking panel.
And this is me feeding into the whole definition of a mansus.
And I'll get the urban.
I don't think, no, it's not a Webster's Dictionary version of it, but I know it's Urban Dictionary.
Later on, we're going to see if we can Google the Urban Dictionary of Amazons. But from my knowledge,
Amazons is someone that you
hold in high esteem.
It's someone that you respect.
It's someone that you appreciate.
It's probably someone that's
been through some
goods and bads in your life.
It's a term
of endearment, and it's a word
that I don't necessarily use
too frequently unless it's my mansons.
So before you motherfuckers,
and this looks like the worst police sketch line up ever.
I don't know if we got a wide shot of this right now,
but if anybody is watching this right now,
they'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with this picture?
This is like, this is what I consider
a walking caption, this. This is like this is this is what i consider a walking caption this
this is the cat this is the weirdest bunch of people this feels like like a like a specialty
bag of skittles every once in a while skittles has a different theme like this is like gay pride week
you know i'm saying like african-american week i have a special bag of skittles this is like
probably the worst bag of skittles that I've ever seen in my life.
Retardation.
Retardation week.
And you know who
always going to want
to represent the most?
The ones that speak
the fastest
and the loudest
with the most obnoxious
fucking voice you ever heard.
So, is it okay for me?
Is it okay for me
to do a formal introduction?
Go for it. Are we calling this the man's show or is is this the hate show i'm calling it the man's the show
it's not the show i mean there's plenty of reasons why i could have hate but i don't have hate it's
nothing about that in fact this show is totally opposite that it's all this show is all about love
this show is about uh trying to find out what the clear definition of a man's is,
maybe sharing some stories of what defined conversation or a point in time.
And what stories, too.
And what stories are.
That sounded like you were about to come at me, son.
You know what I'm saying, son?
I don't know.
That was like really aggressive.
You used your most professional voice ever.
You just sounded like Jermaine. I'm just trying to be clear. All right. You want to be clear. That's the first aggressive. You used your most professional voice ever. You just sounded like Jermaine.
I'm just trying to be clear.
All right, you want to be clear.
That's the first thing.
All right, so I'd like to say this.
Again, thanks for anybody
that's been watching the Donair Rollins show
for the last five episodes.
I appreciate it.
If you haven't been watching it,
I'm getting used to like how you try
to get people to do what you want.
But subscribe and hit that button.
Don't forget to hit the red button.
Subscribe on YouTube.
We're on all the platforms.
We've been ranking or charting for the last four weeks.
I know that's because it's a new podcast, but it's still inspiring when I get to see our progress.
So without further ado, can I get water?
We don't have a producer, do we?
Brother Bear's here.
Brother Bear?
Brother Bear's here. Brother Bear. That sounds like a cuddly name for something. I don't know what it is. Brother Bear's on. Brother Bear's here. Oh, Brother Bear? Brother Bear's here.
Brother Bear.
That sounds like a
cuddly name for something.
I don't know what it is.
He's a wholesome,
he's really like
Brother Bear,
the movie.
Walt Disney is just
a wholesome,
great guy all around.
I met him earlier today.
I met him early today
and I was a super fan
because he's a
Washington Redskins fan.
I knew that.
When I saw the hat,
I said, oh,
he got a button.
Before I even do
an introduction, right? Before even do an introduction, right?
Before I do an introduction, right?
You are a fucked up ass Giants fan.
Yo, yo, yo.
That haven't had anything to be excited about for the last three years.
I see you a man that wears plenty of fittings.
But what I haven't seen in a long time is you wearing any goddamn Giants paraphernalia.
Because they are paraphernalia.
It's the same as last year. Not paraphernalia. Yeah, it's a paraphernalia. No, not paraphernalia. A paraphernalia is the same as last year.
Not paraphernalia.
Yeah, it's a paraphernalia.
Not paraphernalia.
A memorabilia.
Yeah, memorabilia, right.
You could call it paraphernalia.
All right, this is my phone.
I have a team.
All right, back to the introduction.
To my right, I don't even know where this camera is going.
To my right, if you've been following me on social media
probably for the last three years,
you know that I have a very popular hashtag.
It's called Too Soon with Donnell Rollins where whatever's in pop culture,
whatever's the most topical thing out there,
whatever's popping in the streets in the world,
we're going to have our vision
of what we think is too soon.
You've seen him on my page.
You've seen his work on my page.
I fell in love with his work.
I don't know, maybe four years ago. He probably
gave you a little bit more clarity.
Andy Singer, a.k.a.
Bearded Humor, ladies and gentlemen. I don't know if we got to clap.
Do we got to clap?
I'll give myself some applause. Why not?
Self-love. I'm telling you,
for a comedic duo or
connection, you probably would
never put us together
unless you were a fan of Russell Simmons
and Rick Rubin because
that's the combination, that's what you get right here.
But we, well,
I'm going to introduce everybody.
Jimmy Martinez, Jimmy Martinez has a podcast.
What's your podcast? Fire in the Hole.
And why? It's just
Fire in the Hole. Fire in the Hole. It could be
a lot of things. Fire in the hole could be like
you had some nasty ass Mexican food.
Fire in the hole.
You know what I'm saying? Or a chicken
falita at a Waha
or whatever that shit was.
A Wawa. Wawa's the
shit though, son.
Not at four something in the morning.
It's the best time for Wawa.
What other time would you go to Wawa?
Wawa, when you traveling, man, you get excited because you can have all, you can have, you know, your subways and everything.
But there's something about, you know, going to a computer screen and being able to do extra mayo, extra salt and pepper or whatever.
But the podcast is called Fire in the Hole.
So I know it's definitely fitting
because this probably is one of the most firecracker motherfuckers
I know in comedy.
Oh, good.
I've been knowing him for...
How long have we known each other?
Fucking A, dude.
Over like 25 years.
25 years I considered Jimmy to be a man.
And then with that, you know,
you got your ups and your downs in relationships.
Right.
I don't really think you could call anybody a man
if you haven't had a situation
where you wanted to motherfucking
wring each other's motherfucking neck.
You know what I'm saying?
We've all, it's a,
Jimmy Martinez, a talented comedian,
talented actor, talented,
get in trouble, get out of trouble,
get in trouble, get out of trouble,
get back in trouble.
I'm in trouble again.
Dad, Dad, what am I going to do right now?
And the reason why I say Dad, because this is one of the guys,
I remember when Jimmy Martinez first started doing comedy,
I think it was like 17 or 18.
No.
You were 17, not me.
No, when you got to New York, I was 17 years old.
I was 16 and a half.
That's what I just said.
17.
But I started when I was
15. We didn't ask when you started, but here's
another thing. No, here's another thing.
You know the motherfucker
is going to
lunch out with a nigga
and a grown ass man still saying he was
16 and a half.
Yo, yo, yo.
I'm just saying, son.
Yo, yo, son. You just blew your cover, son. Yo, there, I'm just saying, son. I wasn't. Yo, yo, son.
You just blew your cover, son.
Yo, there is no way a grown-ass man
was supposed to be like,
yeah, I was six and a half.
I was a big boy.
You knew me when I was a little boy,
but a big boy.
But I said that just to say,
you know, the history.
I remember it was a young comic
just starting,
but we got some stories,
interesting stuff to talk about an interesting history when you when you say the word
man's as you say somebody's been true to true to you has been down with you and i don't you know
some people can gauge on how long but uh i don't know again i don't know if it's left or right
but uh to to the left of me if you've if known me, if you see me, you see him.
If you see him, you see me.
And if you see him and you don't see me, that means I'm locked up.
If it's vice versa, that means he's locked up.
And a lot of people that's watching this, and they probably going, get a close-up.
Get a close-up.
You got a close-up of him? You don't have to tell Brother Bear that. Brother Bear on close-up. Get a close-up. You got a close-up of him?
You don't have to tell Brother Bear that.
Brother Bear on it, baby.
No, no, no, close-up.
You know what I'm saying?
In the streets, y'all look at him, and y'all be like, oh, that's my man, 40.
That's my man, 40.
You know, like, about that life, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up, 40.
But what you don't know is that's the street name.
But when he's around, white people, no, not just white.
When he's around, I would say that.
I mean, I ain't going to just say white women.
No, he knows how to play.
No, no, no.
When he's around women, all of a sudden, this nigga name is Jermaine.
When around professionals, my name is Jermaine.
Yeah, Jermaine.
Jermaine. We're all around professionals. My name is Jermaine. Yeah, Jermaine. Jermaine Johnson.
Yeah.
And it's so funny because I remember we were somewhere,
and I said, somebody, I said,
I said, anybody see 40?
And this girl said, who's 40?
She was like, you mean Jermaine?
I'm like, who the fuck is Jermaine?
I'm like, who the fuck? And you're like, who's Jermaine?
I'm saying to myself, I don't know this goddamn Jermaine.
You have to be professional when you're around professional people, though.
Yeah, we can be around professionals.
That's the next level.
That's the next level.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes you got to step your game up.
I know people rock you with nicknames and stuff.
But sometimes you might have to let that shit go.
But the reason why I have these three people on stage,
because all three of them represent different times in my life.
I go probably way back more.
Are you all right?
Maybe you need not to smoke, son.
Yeah, I was going to suggest the same thing.
Let's talk to him.
Let's talk to him like, oh, Jimmy, don't smoke, dude.
Oh, man.
Are you going to put it out?
You might want to put it out.
I'm here.
Let's go.
All right.
I'm not a quitter, man.
You can gauge.
Sometimes people want to gauge the way,
yo, you my man.
I've been knowing you for 25, 35 years, 40 years, whatever.
But Andy, how long have you known each other?
Four years?
Probably about four or five years, yeah.
Four years.
And I mean, for the people, again,
that don't know our history or whatever,
and our connection, even how we met, how did we, I mean, for the people, again, that don't know our history or whatever, and our connection, even how we met.
How did we, I know for me, I first met you because I ran into some of your work on Instagram.
I don't know, you came up on my feed some kind of way.
And I was like, God damn, the Photoshop and this shit, the motherfucker and this page is a bearded human.
I was like, this motherfucker can do anything with a beard anything would have been i was like this motherfucker had a santa claus
beard i don't know i don't know how to explain like what his particular work when i first ran
to his place it was all thing because it's bearded humor then as i started to see i was like his
photoshop skills and not only that but just his sense of comedy you know i'm saying like you it's
the one person that could do Photoshop,
but there's another person that can do it
and just make people laugh
and be able to express the story through one photo.
What was your first connection with me?
It was, I noticed that you had, I think,
liked a picture or two of mine,
and that's basically back when I started,
and it was bearded humor. It was putting beards pretty much on anybody. Oh, can I just stop you for one second? I don't want a picture or two of mine, and that's basically back when I started, and it was bearded humor.
It was putting beards pretty much on anybody.
Can I just stop you for one second?
I don't want to be the interrupter, son.
I'm not RZA.
You got braces, son!
I know.
Oh, you ain't seen that?
You ain't seen that, son?
Oh, shoot, bro.
We got the oldest young niggas.
Yo, we got this, though.
This is the oldest, youngest podcast ever.
He say when he was 16 and a half years old, and he's got 16 and a half year old braces.
I'm back to 13 again.
Yo, you got to get back to your story.
But why now, son, braces?
Because I've been going to the wrong dentist for years.
I finally went to a real dentist.
And when they looked in my mouth and saw the overcrowding, they said, you have a lot of plaque buildup.
It's dangerous for your heart.
Right.
So I said, okay, what do I do?
And they said, you can't do anything except for get braces straightened out the teeth so you don't get the plaque buildup.
Right.
So now I have braces.
And it's not for the looks because I have no looks.
Right.
We all can do that.
Exactly.
We all can do that.
My modeling days are over.
It's fine.
I don't want to get on this guy's bad side.
He would tear your ass up on the mean.
It's for health issues, and I've had them a month now,
and I've broken four braces.
I'm sitting here actually with a wire whipping around in my mouth right now because I just keep breaking them.
And I know your daughter, Dakota, and I know she just,
it's so funny because she just had braces taken off.
Yeah, she just got hers off.
And I got mine on.
How long has she had them on?
Three or four years.
She had them for a while.
What was her reaction?
When she first saw you with the braces, what was her reaction?
She just laughed her ass off.
Oh, for real?
She just laughed her ass off.
But then she's reminded me of all the hints that I reminded her of when she had to get hers.
So we're helping each other out.
That's a good story, man.
Awesome, Dad, too.
But back to the story.
When you were saying our first meeting.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I was just like, whoa, hey.
So I sent you the very first meme I ever sent you.
You posted up an Usher.
Usher had just come out with a video.
And you said, damn, I wish I was there.
I immediately went, took that Usher screen capture,
threw you in the picture and sent it to you.
And you were like, oh my God, fire, keep them coming.
And then that was, and then we kept with the memes and then it became a friendly thing.
We started learning about each other,
talking about each other, talking about comedy
and what it meant to each other.
And I think one of the very first conversations
that we ever even had face to face was,
I said um let
if you can learn to laugh at life death and everything in between then that's the key to
life as I was saying it you said it along with me and I knew right then and there that and we
pretty much are like original click he can he can hit me up with an idea he can throw two names at
me or something and I'll be like okay 99.9% of the time, we're on the same page.
There is that one or two times
when you hit me up or I hit you up,
and we're just like, what?
No, that's that time when you ain't smoked no weed, son.
That's what it is.
That's the time when, look at our producer
choking off the goddamn weed over here.
Shout out to Kevin Smith for that bomb-ass weed.
That's it.
We'll get jammed over that.
But, I mean, when you talk about,
like, there's a lot of people that do the memes,
you know what I'm saying?
If you're doing social media,
that's a big driving force
on how you're going to get more fans,
people like you, whatever.
But, yo, when I talk about somebody
that's, like, always on it, like, too soon,
like, I could be asleep, right?
I could be asleep, I'll wake up,
and I'll have an idea,'m like oh shit i want to get
andy to do this and i'll be like yo and then he say stop check your inbox it's already it's already
in it so what you're telling me is y'all met on the internet and it was just like you guys went
to high school together type when we had we it was that vibe but But another part of the story that was interesting to me is that, you know,
I became a fan of your work on social media.
You became a fan of mine on social media.
But your connection with me and it's not throwing names out there or anything like that,
but it's just reality.
Like, I had the opportunity.
That's what motherfuckers when are you going to
stop talking about it
I am so sorry
that I had the opportunity
to be on one of the
most iconic
sketch comedy shows
in the history of comedy
one of the
work with one of the
best motherfuckers
but our connection
for you
was a little
more
than just
recently with social media
yeah it was
it was through the Chappelle show, and it was through the laughter.
My son is 18 now.
He has special needs, a lot of health issues.
When he got sick, he was three and a half, and it was up and down.
He was touch and go.
He was given last rites many a times.
He had two strokes, lost everything, went back to basically the beginning,
had to relearn everything.
After being in PICU and another hospital, we finally went to a rehab hospital. And I probably
hadn't been home in four weeks, really hadn't been home. My wife finally went home after the
doctors finally decided, okay, you got to start taking turns going home. She went home, she brought
four weeks worth of mail back in. And we were like, okay, we got to catch up. We can't fall
behind, but you know, we will figure it all out. And one of mail back in. And we were like, okay, we got to catch up. We can't fall behind.
We, you know, we'll figure it all out.
And one of the things in there,
we had pre-ordered the Chappelle Show first season DVD because we love the show.
Which was a hot goddamn item.
It was.
Yo, back in the day, and I don't want to get off topic,
but you know, sometimes I cut people off
because I haven't thought.
One of my friends, Van Lathan, who works for TMZ,
he's in the boardroom.
Shout out to Van Lathan.
He told me,
during the height of Chappelle's show,
he used to work at Best Buy, right?
And the Chappelle's show made them,
they had to do like an inter-office email
they had to send out
because the DVD was so popular
that the people that worked there
were getting them and buying them
before they hit the streets.
Wow. They wasn't even making they hit the streets. Wow.
They wasn't even
making it on the shelves.
So the Chappelle show
was the first time
they bust that record
where motherfuckers
had to say,
you are not allowed.
I think they gave them
a limit or whatever.
Right.
But when I first met
Van Latham,
that's the short story
that he shared me about.
That show was so iconic
and so popping
and so interesting
that you brought up
the whole DVD.
That DVD was,
that was probably the last of the DVDs selling like that.
But you had the DVD.
We had pre-ordered the DVD.
And like I said, we're going through all the mail.
And I remember when I moved some mail and I saw the DVD and I was like, oh, that's cool.
I was like, you know, take that back home.
We can't watch that now.
And my wife looked at me and we both kind of like looked at each other like.
This is while you were in the hospital?
Yeah.
My son was, he was in a coma-like state. state he was unresponsive we didn't know if he was going
to make it or not you know we still had no idea and and we were like this should go home this is
not the time for comedy and we looked and we stared at each other and we we read into each
other and we said no this is the time that we're going to need this dvd more than anything and i
cannot tell you how that d DVD, but we were in a
rehab hospital for eight months after that. We lived in a rehab hospital. And during that time,
it was always touch and go. Never had, you know, never knew what was going to go on. Every single
night, my wife and I would get, you know, one of the kids' TVs that they had on the hallway that
everybody would bring in. And there were three other families. And all the families that we were
in the room with, all the kids, everybody was in bad shape it was a dark time we would pop that dvd in and we would
watch it and let me tell you we would laugh our ass off nurse some nurses would come in and they
would love it some would come in and be one doctor came in one night and she was just like you know
this is kind of disrespectful and it was immediately we're filling this room with laughter
and love right that's what these that's what that's what these kids need and that's what we need right now and
after a while other parents started realizing what we were doing and they were coming in and
they were watching it with us so i mean you know to to be able to have the the demands that we have
right is i still look at it all the time. It's incredible that you played such an important part
in the worst time of my life. And it's a tough thing. I know a lot of special needs families
and it's difficult on the parents all the time. I really honestly and truthfully believe if we
didn't get that DVD, we wouldn't be the same family. We wouldn't be as far along with Jaden
as we are because of the way we look and the way we laugh at everything.
Because of, again, realizing, laugh at everything.
No matter what it is, let, my son has seizures all day.
I joke about his seizures.
Those are part of my jokes.
It's tough, but it's my truth.
It's my reality and my therapy.
And so I've heard that story.
One of the things that I appreciate the most about being on
Chappelle's show when I go places
and I meet like I'll be out and I'll meet
like a vet I mean I'll meet these
guys like this I did three tours in Afghanistan
and I've heard
guys tell me that it was times
where I thought I was going to crack
I didn't know if I was going to go home and the one thing that
always brought everybody
together was the laughter that they shared with I didn't know if I was going to go home and the one thing that always brought everybody together
was the laughter that they shared
with watching that DVD
and like when we first met
I know it's kind of weird for you
because our friendship started popping off
real quick and I know and not to say
I'm a super celebrity or whatever but that's very
random that you just meet somebody on
social media and then you connect
with them you know what I'm saying You connect with him
Because I know
He probably looking at me
Like oh shit
That's that nigga ass shit
Well he probably
Wouldn't use it anywhere
But I don't know
No
No
I just want to make sure
That was a test
No
I gave the nigga test
I gave the nigga test
Real quick
And see he was like
Yo these my nigga
What
If I'm singing some DMX
In my car it's ninja
it's ninja yeah you got it but you know
for and I know it's like
oh man this dude blah blah blah but and I
was telling this people understand like
you know celebrities where we still human
you meet people sometimes that you connect
with them and when I connected with you
was like first it was a humor
that you expressed in me I think that's a whole
different skill set you have to have and then as i followed your page and i started to follow your journey and it's not
a secret to anybody that you have a special needs kid that we fucking love like loving our kids and
and i'm saying to myself and at the time i was a pretty new dad i was was excited about being a dad. You know what I'm saying? I still am. Excited?
That's an understatement.
Nah, nah, nah. I was real. You know, I was
like, I was on it.
And then with
that said, and I know how
tough it is to be a dad.
You know what I'm saying? I know how tough it is to be
a dad under normal
circumstances. And not to belittle anything.
Under normal circumstances of the crying belittle anything under normal circumstances
of the crying and everything the knees you have to do you got to get up you got to change your
diaper and then i started thinking i was like god damn i was like this motherfucker's not just dead
he's super dead to have to have to work with what you have to do the regimen with the medicine and
everything and i felt like and i tried to say
something to you about it i said and you cut me off you cut me off in mid-sentence i was like
man i know how tough it is and you said that you cut me off as as if nigga don't even do i mean
african-american ninja ninja ninja thank you don't do it don't do it and you get that
i know you get that a lot.
But what did you say to me that just shut me down when we were talking?
Probably if it would have happened to your son.
What would you do?
What would you do?
What would you do?
And I'm telling you, man, and it made me really think.
I'm like, under whatever circumstances, whatever that happens in life, what would you do?
And then when you said that to me, like, I looked at your face and I was like, I looked at your face and I said to myself, I would do exactly what the fuck you're doing.
You know what I'm saying?
When we go visit you, you know, we travel.
Me and 40, that's my man right there.
If you see him, you're going to see me.
Man, and you always say when we get around you guys and we post
a picture, you're like, this is the best day.
Jada could be having it. I'm telling you.
I'm telling you. I could feel it
because when, man. Jada know when we there.
When we up in that town, we about to eat.
Yo, it's up in there. We about to eat, bro.
We doing whatever type of comedy we got to do.
It's going to be on and just to see
his face light up
and just not only to see his face light up and just not only
to see his face light up
but to see
and you have bad days.
Yeah.
You've told me about that
but you know
never to make an excuse
never to bitch about anything
and then with that said
to be able to channel that
and to the thing that
one of the things
you have to respect about comedy
is what it does for your soul
and what it does to people.
Exactly.
That's the number one
thing you do.
I share that
through my stuff
and you share it
through your stuff
and me and this guy,
we'll sometimes,
we'll be off.
We'll be off
like a motherfucker.
You'll see us
like a week free.
We'll be like,
yeah,
something ain't sweet
in the milk
as my man used to say.
Fuck,
what's his name? Slaughter used to say. It's the country deal. Man, something ain't sweet in the milk, as my man used to say. Fuck, what's his name?
Slaughter used to say.
It's the country name.
Man, something ain't sweet in the milk.
That's some old country shit for saying shit, right?
But we'd be like, let's take a couple days off.
But I'm telling you, when we get on fire.
When the momentum gets going, man, come up with some hitters.
And I want to, and like, again, this is man, this is Jimmy Martinez, the wild child, the group home, the group home, the foster kid.
Y'all relationship, listen, real shit, Andy and Donnell, I'm listening to y'all relationship.
And G Money, don't it kind of remind you of you and I and Jonas?
Yeah.
Because we met this guy over in Sweden.
Can I say one thing?
Can I say one thing?
Really quick?
We don't want that producer to have a voice right now.
Unfortunately.
Nah, G-Buddy's got to have a voice.
Nah, we edited him, son.
It's not G-Buddy.
No, he's shitting on my equipment, son.
No, yo, he's shitting on my equipment.
He's shitting on my investment at B&H Studios yesterday. Oh,
B&H? B&H. Corey Holcomb
loves B&H. I love it, too. I don't even
want to talk about G-Money. Thank you for helping us, but
you shitted on my shit.
And we're going to get a shot of your shit that you shitted
on me with, son.
Yo.
That relationship, man.
That
internet is so illy, man. how it brings vibes together, dude, because just to hit it off like that and to not have an agenda, it was just genuine.
And like, just for you and for him, that's a one in a million, man.
You know what I mean?
So that's just like Just to see that shit
And I have mans like that
Then I have mans like you
Yeah
The mans is
The mans is
That are
Very emotional
Very
It's way too big to be emotional
I think emotional motherfuckers
Should be like Kevin Hart's size
Kevin Hart's size.
Kevin Hart would be emotional.
A person that, I consider Jimmy to be like a son.
A little brother, if somebody had, well, an old dad like myself.
But so much like a son and a friend or whatever.
And like a motherfucker that, oh, you got kids.
Everybody, not everybody got kids, but if you live in a family structure, you got three kids you got one kid is like this one kid's like that
and then you got one kid you'd be like
yo you be like this you're like this you got one kid you're like this i'ma pray for him yo i'ma
pray for god is good i'ma pray for him that one motherfucker that called you at the middle of the night,
and the first thing you're like, is everything okay?
Is everything okay?
Ha, ha, ha.
Okay, I just want to make sure everything's okay.
That one you don't know if you're going to get a collect call from.
That one guy that you heard from Jimmy, you're like, is everything okay?
Is everything okay?
That one kid
that you know, it's that troubled kid
like he can do the work
but he's just talkative
and he's energy.
He can do it.
I do it for the work
but he just loses his focus.
That one kid, the teacher knows that the guy has some potential, but I don't have time.
That sounded like me when I was younger in school.
That's probably part of all of us.
I don't have time.
I don't know if I have time.
It takes too much time.
And with that person, that person, you try to give them all the life lessons you can.
You can't give them to them all at once because they're not ready for them.
You give them a little piece.
You be like this.
Take this and put it into the world.
Take that.
I can't give you too much shit because you're going to fuck it up.
So I'm going to give you a little bit.
And they take that little bit of shit.
Guess what they do?
They fuck it up.
Just like you thought they was going to fuck it up. Just like you thought they was going to fuck it up. And sometimes with that fuck up, sometimes when you mentoring or like raising a kid sometimes,
sometimes you give them enough stuff.
You give them, see, look, he didn't even know to turn his phone off.
All right, let's take a time out.
What, you got to take the call?
You got to take the call?
No, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Well, you got that one person. Everybody can got to take the call? No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well, you got that one person.
Everybody can relate to this in your life some kind of way.
You got that one person that's like, you know, wisdom is something that you try to give people.
A lot of times when they're not ready for it, they don't hear it.
So they hear bits and pieces of it.
But it's not until something happens in their life where they have that experience and it hits them.
You try to tell them, bro, I know.
Here's the shortcut. this is the advice i can
give you as a shortcut but be prepared for the long haul you got some people just see the shortcut
right jimmy is one of those people but when i said that you can't people like that that move too fast
but you can't give up on because deep down somewhere when you see something somebody you
see the potential you're like this man if you just could do somebody, you see the potential, you're like this, man, if he just
could do this, if he could just
do that already, no. And the reason
why I say that, and I'm
only being honest, we've all had experiences
with the law and situations where
we were removed from our family
and from our friends, and we call it,
my father used to call it vacation.
My father was going to be on vacation for seven years.
Yeah, that's what we say in school.
We in college.
He in college sometimes.
We in college.
So I'll just say this.
Jimmy's been to college a couple times.
We've never seen a diploma, but he's spent some time in college.
And with that, every time I've seen him come from college,
every time I've seen him give himself
an opportunity, the motherfuckers
always stand. I was like, how the fuck
did this motherfucker
get in so much trouble?
Keep getting opportunities. Because when you
got natural talent, you'll keep getting opportunities.
Exactly. You'll keep getting opportunities.
I was speaking on,
are you really going to be on the phone
doing the podcast? No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm on the phone Doing a podcast? No I'm not
I'm right here
I'm not doing nothing
Can a nigga suspend
A motherfucker from a podcast?
This nigga is going to get detention
I'm listening
You're going to get detention
He's going to
We're going to get detention him. He's going to, we're going to get attention.
He's going to get attention.
But again,
he's that foster man's.
You know,
foster kids,
don't disrespect my mother,
had foster kids her whole life.
They a different breed.
But you got that foster kid.
You got that motherfucker
that you pray for
and you wish for the best.
But you know at any time they could be
a live
wire could flip something
up our
relationship started
doing stand up but years ago
and I've shared this story
on other platforms I had
a group the group was
called the secret
society and it was an amazing group i would consider
it's about the same time it was like the wu-tang i really believe that it was the wu-tang of comedy
you know i had this group i started like years ago some years i can't remember you look at my
beard you see the gray you know it's been a while back but i this group, and it was a group, you remember 90s, man, in the 90s
who was in the group?
dude, fucking A
let's offer it
Mike Epps, Red Grant
Rich
Pierre Lewis
Don Farmley, Jason
Ondors, Joe
Claire used to come up
Jimmy Martinez, myself Jimmy fucking donnell was at the
helm of it uh fucking uh dave chappelle will come up um like just we just erica badu was a regular
at at this spot just but just the people that was in our group these are the people I'm naming like
um the the Mike Epps and all of these people like we had a fucking a powerhouse cast dude like
like no one like no other we had we had what wasn't Donna Coy uh R.I.P. she used to be a
writer for Backstage Magazine and at the time she was like she was so happy to see Sketch Group especially coming from
as diverse black
as our group was meaning
90% black she was like
as far it wasn't
that many Sketch Groups especially
especially in the African American community she was happy
with it the Sketch Group was something we used to go to
the Brooklyn Moon Cafe we would write the
sketches we would perform it.
Nobody was doing that.
This group was blowing up so fast.
We had
a showcase. We had a showcase
where APA, APA was the fourth largest
film and television agency in the country
and as a group, they said, we had a
showcase and as a group
they wanted to sign, we had
a showcase and then APA they wanted to we had a showcase and then apa they wanted to sign me
they was down with the group but they was like some people were green it was new they want to
sign me and somebody else and they say we want to sign you but we're not so excited but i don't know
if i ever shared the story with you we're not too excited about signing the whole group and i told
him i was like well i'm here because of the whole. So if you don't sign the entire group, I'm not going to sign.
Cut to, they signed
the entire group.
Can you imagine going into a boardroom at
APA, fourth largest film and television country
in the country, and you sitting
down, 12 motherfuckers, didn't
have no agents, no nothing. They was raw.
They was raw and signing
everybody to the group.
So at that point, we had the group and we was we
was on fire we had we was we was building up we had one showcase i think this is working
on to our third showcase this was going to be the big showcase we're promoting it
everybody's streets talking about secret society secret secret society, oh, they the shit, blah, blah. We promoted it, and we ready to go.
We have rehearsals and everything.
And out of nowhere,
there was a member, first off,
Jimmy was a part of that group, and Jimmy was
the point man. If you don't know what a
point man is when it comes to military, it's the person
that goes out there.
The first ones are going to get shot.
He's the one that goes to the event.
And as much as I thought
I was a professional, I was always nervous about going
first. Everybody was like, I don't want to
go first. This motherfucker didn't give a fuck.
He always, always went
first. He was a very intricate part of
the success of the show. His energy was
huge. It was the shit. I'm humbled by
that. That's the only good thing I'm going to say.
But it's the truth. I already knew it.
I never tell people my fears. I would never tell you i'm scared as shit i was just like
just you go nigga yo he's like mikey mikey he'll try hey mikey he like it so we was going to have
this big showcase at catch a rising star yep i remember that we was everybody's excited we
about to sell these tickets whatever and out of nowhere, at the time, Jimmy was living with me.
Yep.
Jimmy was living with me.
He was part of the sketch.
He was my son.
He was living with me.
And this was so, so crazy to me.
So I'm in my room.
Brooklyn Mike was my roommate at the time.
And Jimmy was standing downstairs on the sofa, you know what I'm saying, whatever.
And out of nowhere, I heard a door bust down. Boom! my roommate at the time. Right. And Jimmy was standing downstairs on the sofa, you know what I'm saying, whatever. And I don't know why
I heard a door bust down.
Boom!
Look.
Boom!
Police.
They bust down the door
like hinges.
Damn.
Brooklyn Mike is in one room.
The motherfucker's
pulled down guns.
And they was like, where is he? Where the fuck is he? Where is he? Brooklyn Mike is in one room. The motherfucker's pulled down guns and they was like,
where is he?
Where the fuck is he?
Where is he?
Brooklyn Mike didn't know
what the fuck was going on.
Brooklyn Mike snitcher
had said he in the other room.
And pointed to you?
Yeah,
he pointed to the room
I was in, right?
Meanwhile,
I just go to the answer machine,
right?
And I get a message
saying,
hey Don L,
this is Jimmy Martinez
I don't think I'm ever coming back there
the police
bust through my doors
looking for this motherfucker
that's supposed to be
showcasing for the sketch show
on Friday son
this motherfucker
yo I don't.
Yo, this is crazy.
This was the movie inside the goddamn movie.
And like wildfire.
Everybody in the secret society was calling me because the police was all.
You know how it is.
You used to be a cop.
When they jump out, they jump out on five or six neighborhoods.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like.
And three.
And two, Bronx.
Pow, what the fuck is it?
Queens, pow, we won them.
At the same time, this is a true story.
At the same time, everybody is getting jumped off, jumped out at the same time.
Sherry Davis is like, Donnell, what the fuck is going on?
Why is everybody looking for Jimmy?
Motherfucking Rich Lewis is like, Donnell, what's going on? I don't know what's going on. He said, Donnell, you know what the fuck is going on? Why is everybody looking for Jimmy? Motherfucking Rich Lewis is like, Donnell, what's going on?
I don't know what's going on. He said, Donnell, you know what the
fuck is going on, right?
That's Rich Lewis
said that? Yeah, he was like, you know what the
fuck is going on, Donnell.
I'm like, I don't know what's going on,
right? This motherfucker,
the police, no, no,
no, wait a minute. Yo,
not the police
was looking for him. Wait a minute. Yo, not the police.
Was looking for him.
Right.
This nigga escaped.
Yeah, I was.
No, you see, they keep saying I escaped.
No, who is they?
The police. The police.
But the whole thing is.
Yo, yo, wait, wait, wait, wait, Jimmy, really quick.
Usually they is the police.
And usually what they say, they kind of write about, right?
Nah, my nigga.
People try to say I be robbing niggas.
You just robbed a nigga.
But listen to what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is this, is that.
Exactly.
Exactly.
They, the police, they brought me into the prison for questioning.
And then they said, okay, you can
go. And then they
you saw
the trial. They
were lying. This is why I won
that trial. The police
conquered a whole
Okay, I got a question for you.
They said you could go. Were you in a cell
when they told you that you could just go?
No. I was sitting. How would I how could I escape? said you could go were you in a cell when they told you that you could just go no you i was at
i was sitting how would i how could i escape they didn't they didn't i don't know this is what i'm
you imagine you being a jury a jury nigga and the police did the police tell yep and we put
him in the cell and then we we locked the key and and we blah blah blah blah and then we came back
and then he escaped.
But why did you?
I know some people who done it.
Escaped out
with the key?
In the precinct?
In the precinct.
When they
finally caught up
with you, aka captured you.a. captured you.
No.
Wait a minute.
Okay.
Okay, all right.
Okay, yeah.
Okay, I know you're scared.
But you went to another state, nigga.
I was performing at Morgan State University.
Oh, shoot.
I was performing at Morgan State University for Valentine's Day.
But you know the heat was on you, son.
My man, I was still going to get that money. State University for Valentine's Day. But you know the heat was on you, son.
My man, I was still going to get that money.
Yo, I'm kidding.
What was I supposed to do? I was still coming to catch a rise to the star at the motherfucking showcase.
Regardless, like, dude, y'all trying to catch me after I book all these shows?
And I'm just going to turn? So what you're just going to turn after you just told me I can go?
Jimmy, so what you're trying to say is that if someone is detained or arrested, right,
if they have a schedule of shows, I just want to be clear.
If you don't have no shows, then you should just stay locked up, right?
But if you look at your schedule, you're like, I'm supposed to be in Florida.
You're supposed to go.
Get the money.
Get the money.
And then come back and talk to them.
No, but what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, Detective John Flynn.
He brought you in for questioning. He brought you in for questioning.
He brought me in for questioning.
Never put cuffs on you.
Never.
I was never in cuffs.
And then after the questioning, he left out, made some phone calls, came back in, and was like, all right, we'll be in touch with you.
So this is the same guy that bust down my doors and engines.
Detective John Flynn.
And do you know after I beat trial do you know he retired oh what he um he he retired the funny thing about that is that we were kind of slowing our ticket sales
i'll tell the truth we were slowing our ticket sales that week we was like
we didn't plan his publicity stack but we went from like a venue that was for $150,
we had almost sold it out
because the police bought all the goddamn tickets, son.
Yo, the police, I'm telling the truth, son.
You know how I know he's not lying?
Because when they caught up with me in Maryland
and we're driving back,
and we're driving back, and how they caught up with me in Maryland and we're driving back and we're driving back and how they caught up with me is because I called my son's mom to check on my son and stuff like that.
She was like, yeah, I just want you to know that the police were here.
I know what I had to say when I was looking for you.
You was the worst fugitive.
I have heard your code words.
Yo, this motherfucker
Jimmy Martinez, right?
J.M., right? That's his initials.
Rich Lewis,
R.L., that's his initials.
Jimmy called
Rich Lewis and said,
hey, R.L.,
this is J.M.
No. No, that's a thing with Tony Woods This is JM No
No that's a thing
With Tony Woods
And Rich Lewis and I
It was with nobody else
Y'all already know
Okay for that
What y'all do understand is that
This is 100%
My troubled child
My 100%
Guy that I'm gonna be like And everybody that's listening Or% God that I'm going to be like, and everybody
that's listening or watching this podcast,
I'm saying everybody's relatable
in this case some kind of way. We all
have that one where you
just say to yourself, I'm just
going to pray for him.
Just pray for him. I'm just going to pray for him.
Moving, not moving along, but
the reason why I brought up the
whole story is like, how did it feel?
Like, people know that I had a fan of RZA,
I felt like our lives had some parallels
in regard to coming up with an idea of something,
following through with it,
dealing with multiple personalities,
seeing it at its height,
seeing it fall apart,
and also still maintaining what you do as an individual.
And that's why when I was on that podcast with Rogan,
I was overly excited because every time RZA told a story,
I felt like I had something connected.
Oh yeah, that happened to me.
That happened to me.
And I know, like, I would consider
definitely Jimmy, when I had the sketch group,
to be the old dirty bastard of that group,
how did it feel for you to be,
how did that feel for you to be a part of the group,
the Sikh society, and a unit of people
that individually everybody was headed
for some type of stardom or some type of success?
You know, what was
crazy for me at that age
and
seeing it all.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm sorry.
See? Y'all know?
Look at this.
Look, look, look.
The focus.
I only got to say nothing.
Alright, you want to
know what's going on
that's my weed guy
and the weed guy
is here
alright
thank you
take the call
what do you think
I just threw you
my phone
take the call
I don't want to
call that nigga back
I don't want to
miss the weed guy
alright
now I can focus
man
fuck
you're going to need
more than that
to focus
no
anyway man human Adderall Now I can focus, man. Fuck. You're going to need more than that to focus. No.
Anyway, man.
Human Adderall.
I had a white boy that used to give me that. I know that, dog.
Anyway.
Listen, man.
During that time, in that particular time, I saw something.
And I was young, but I've always had an eye for talent
I've always knew
when something was going to be
what it was supposed to be
Mike was something special
Red Grant
everyone brought something
but it was you
that really had me believing that this can get done like I've
always like uh been around comics that had an idea to do something but as you being a comic that was
coming from out of state you actually had a plan but you didn't just have a plan. You had a fucking vision with the plan.
I remember us at this club bar
called Vibes on Flatbush,
and you just started going off on this tangent
like you was a detective.
And like,
a normal motherfucker would have been thrown,
but I just went right back into character.
Like, I was a detective, and you was talking about how you're leaving the force.
You know, you've had enough.
You see, Andy connected to that.
He wanted authenticity with that because he used to be a cop.
He's like, what type of cop was he?
You would not look at him and think like this dude.
He looked like a suspect.
What did you say? Wait, wait, when you stay away, what. He looked like a suspect. What did you say?
Wait, wait.
When you stand away, what did you say?
I'm what?
Graduated?
What did we say?
College.
College.
Andy put people in college.
He get us through college.
I took 20 years off of weed and now I'm back.
Oh, yeah.
What's that?
Yeah.
But I felt like at that time, I really honestly felt like, wow, I'm a part of something that's really about to make an impact on the comedy community that other people wish that they could have or wanted to be a part of.
Because I didn't know if you noticed during that time, there were other people on the outskirts trying to get in.
It was too late.
I remember when you wanted motherfuckers.
You can't just add Woo members, nigga.
Something's got to happen.
We Woo free for a week right now.
We Woo free.
I remember you and I had a fallout.
Which one?
The first one.
The first one.
When I was a teenager, the first one.
And I blew up at the secret society joint.
And you were like, you're out of here.
Don't worry about it.
You'll never fucking come back.
I don't want you, and I don't need you around.
And it was just like, fuck you. I don't want you, and I don't need you around. And it was just like, it was like, fuck you.
I don't want to be around here.
You know it.
I know it.
I'm the best thing that's ever happened in here.
I'm leaving the group.
And I said all this stupid shit, and Rich Lewis called me later on that day.
He said, Jim, Donnell is really upset with you.
He said, but I think you just need to give him some time, Donnell is really upset with you he said
but
I think you just need to give him some time
because this is your home
and you need to come back
but don't call him for like a week
this is what Rich Lewis said to me
so I um
my dumb ass I try to call him in three days
and he
and he he gave me the cold, distilled door for like two weeks straight.
There was nothing.
But what he didn't know was I was getting the loop from Rich Lewis was telling me what was going on in the background.
He was like, yo, everything's off without you.
Don Ellis making it vocal in front of people, Jim.
Do not call him.
Not today, because he'll know somebody went back and told you.
Don't tell him.
So my birthday was coming up.
All y'all niggas was talking about my back, nigga.
Hold on. Y'all niggas say shit. Hold on. My birthday was coming up. All y'all niggas was talking about my back, nigga. Hold on. Y'all niggas say shit.
Hold on.
My birthday was coming up.
So I knew, okay, if he doesn't love me during this time when I'm going in and he doesn't accept me, this is really all over.
So it all coincided.
This is when he got the pool in the backyard of in cumberland
and he was cleaning the pool and he told me come over i want to talk to you and it was the weirdest
conversation because he never really looked at me while he was playing in the pool.
But he was also explaining to me, like,
I think I want you to come back,
but there's going to be some rules,
and there's going to be certain shit that,
and, you know, I want you to know it's going to be different between us.
You're going to have to earn this back.
And I was just like...
Because I was like, and I understand people,
everybody thought that
everybody had something to contribute
to. Everybody had specialty
areas. You know what I'm saying? If you look at it,
Mark Theobald now, he's a writer for
Last OG. He's made a good career for himself as a
writer. I forgot about Mark!
Rich Lewis, he's like one of the
biggest commercial actors.
Everybody is doing something.
But I knew that
not to say people wasn't going to something, but I knew that,
that I knew that,
not to say people wasn't going to shine,
but I knew at that time
it was a perfect platform.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
I was getting frustrated
because I'm like,
I mean,
guess they don't see what I see
because the arguments
and if you look back at it
and you're like,
the shit that we was upset about
and everything,
you look back and it's like,
man,
think about if we could have
squashed all that dumb shit,
but that's part of growing.
I used to just get upset
that Don Hell
wasn't showing me
no attention.
I didn't give a fuck
about what was going on.
I was in the group.
I didn't care.
I get to get off the block
on a fucking Wednesday.
You know what I'm saying?
And you got to eat too
because I get to
smoke all the time.
No, no.
Oh,
but I'm just talking about
the Brooklyn Moon Cafe.
It was on Wednesdays
and,
and,
and Mashoud
and Erykah Badu.
I knew that I would get to see
Erykah Badu
and I just knew like,
and I was,
you gave me,
you were giving me confidence
of my funny.
But the only thing like,
I'm going to tell you,
one of the things I've always been,
I don't know,
I'm the magnet to misfits.
You know what I'm saying?
Me too.
And I think that's probably my mom.
Because you're a misfit.
Of course, that's my background.
But my mother always had foster kids.
My mother would try to save everybody.
There was always one kid that everybody gave up on.
She always gave up.
My mother used to break running and get in between people and fight.
I was like, Mom, we can't do that.
I'm like, these motherfuckers
will beat me up.
So I've always had
a connection with people
that people not necessarily
get it yet.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like,
they don't get it yet,
they don't get it yet,
but they will.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't have,
a lot of people
didn't have the patience
that I had,
but I knew that the dude
has something.
It's obvious for a motherfucker
to be able to
get in and out of college like he was,
you know what I'm saying,
and get some opportunities,
like, goddamn, shake up the whole industry,
you know what I'm saying,
and just keep on giving yourself opportunities.
Obviously, there's some type of talent there.
Now, the guy right here to the left,
Jermaine, what are you going by?
What are you going by?
Jermaine 40. Yeah, Jermaine 40. It all depends by? What are you going by? Jermaine 40.
Yeah, Jermaine 40.
It all depends on how the conversation goes.
Yeah.
Yo, this is my, like I said earlier,
if you see me, you see him.
You know what I'm saying?
He, when we first,
this episode is all about
who I'm connected with, people that I love.
When we first met,
you was coming, you was getting out of college.
Yeah, I was getting,
around the same time Jimmy was going in college. You was getting out of college? you was getting out of college. Yeah, I was getting, around the same time Jimmy was going in college.
You was getting out of college?
I was getting out of college, yeah.
If you,
if you,
you know what I'm saying?
I want to see some of these
goddamn diplomas, man.
I know what I'm saying.
But what was the,
what was the energy?
What was,
what was the energy
when you came home from college?
And this was,
when was this?
98. How was, what was the energy when you came home from college? And this was, when was this? 98.
What was the comedy scene like in New York in 98?
98, like Jimmy mentioned, the vibe.
When I came home, I'm going to give you the rundown.
When I first came home.
College.
Yeah, from college.
Kuma Kulada, what is that?
Dead.
Kuma Kulada. What is that? Dead. Kuma Kulada?
My cousin Brooklyn Mike Donnell had the crib downtown Brooklyn,
which is Clinton Hill section.
And I was still living that business style.
So my cousin Mike, one night I went out and saw the comedy,
and I got enthused about it. I'm like, this is dope.
And I've been running on the street, you know, all my life.
And he said, you know what, nigga?
You need to try something different, man.
You know what I mean?
Get around me.
You know what I mean?
Try to find the shit out.
So then, I guess then.
I also said stop fucking bitches on Jimmy's couch, too.
Yo, I'm about to get to that.
I'm about to get to that, yo.
So I paroled with my pops.
I mean, excuse me.
I went home to my pops.
Then I moved in.
After Jimmy went to college, I moved in with Mike and Donnell.
I didn't even know the nigga lived there.
Yeah, he didn't even know I lived there, nigga.
I just thought I lived there, son.
Yo, I moved in.
And, you know, fortunately, fortunately.
You owe me some rent, nigga.
I was in a position, like when they was starting to do comedy,
they was doing a comedy, I was in a position to get a car.
Because these dudes didn't have license. None. None. None of them
had no license. We thought you were selling coke.
Yeah, yeah. He had a car in his name?
Yeah, I had a car.
No, go ahead. I'm sorry.
I had a car. And they had shows and shit.
And I used to like taking them, man. Because I used to have some fun.
I can mention so many stars right now
named that I rode to shows, but that's not even necessary.
But it was fun.
And I got to, you know, I know my, yeah, I got to fuck a lot of girls.
I ain't gonna lie.
I had fun.
You know what I'm saying?
You had more fun than me.
It changed my life.
I'm the only person not fucking in here.
Yeah, yeah.
It changed my life from running around in the street with my homies with, you know, them things.
And then switching over, like, yo, promote the show.
Get comedians to show.
And the shit was fine.
My fly spot was the vibe.
Right.
That was my spot, man, because, you know, me and my nigga here, so, yo, if you get on
that stage and you corny, nigga, we'll heckle the shit out you, man.
Yes, we have it.
Yo, like, just fall asleep in front of the stage and shit like that.
Right.
But, you know, that was my life, man.
Like, I said, you know what?
I need to change all this. And ever since then, man, the comedy scene, man, has been the shit, man. I love it, But, you know, that was my life, man. Like, I said, you know what? I need to change all this.
And ever since then, man, the comedy scene, man,
has been the shit, man.
I love it, man.
You know, like...
He was there during the Palm Court Lounge days, too.
Yeah, Palm Court Lounge.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to tell you a story about Palm Court Lounge.
Why you act like a snitch in school?
Yo, yo, yo.
He's like, yo, I told y'all he had a...
Yo, yo, yo.
No, no, but this is a good story.
I think this is the time he was shooting a wire or something like that.
He had popped his Achilles, right?
And I'm up in the wire, right?
They know how crazy I am, like, because I would just call him and shit.
So it was this lady got up there.
Now, he doesn't explain to them, like, no, like, don't use profanity.
I think it was like a clean show, like no profanity.
This lady, I don't remember her name or anything. She gets on
stage and go ballistic.
Now, I'm looking at D
and I'm seeing he calm. I don't see
him mad. I don't see shit.
He never shows signs of anger.
Fuck it. He's accepting it.
When she got off the stage and D got on
the stage, he said, didn't I tell you
he tore her a new
asshole. But check it though. she was with this real tall nigga now I know he
fucked up on his leg so he's not no quick like that so I'm you know I'm
saying this is my nigga I'm like yo you know because I by this time I don't get
on the road with them and shit now I'm getting experience with the shit so I
see how she talking shit and this big nigga like go toward the stage your bro. I swear to you
It's just instant reflex. I scooped this big nigga. Just dumped him on his head
Big nigga Duke and I'm like this and anybody looking at me like what the fuck this little nigga pop up from
But I knew he couldn't move so and I'm like He was fresh out. He was swollen. Yeah, I was fresh out. Yeah, I was fresh out. Yo, yo.
Because I was athletic in college.
With that glow?
With that glow?
Yo, he would push a nigga's stomach because he was ripped.
He was hammed up.
He was like, what you going to do with that bum bum?
Pillsbury Doughboy.
He was like, stop playing, man.
I think it was fresh out.
But that was the fun part, man.
Home court lounge was the fucking shit.
That's where he put all of us in training
Mark Beerball
Me, Mike
All of us
The other white guy
Andrew something
No Gene Gray
Gene Gray
No I'm talking about the other dude
Jason Anders
Yeah I liked him
He was in Secret Society too right about the other dude. You, I think you... Jason Anders? Yeah, I liked him, man. Oh, fuck Jason, too. No, I'm just joking.
I like Jason.
I like Jason.
He was in Secret Society, too, right?
Yes!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We both,
and we go far
back to the point
where
we was
childless.
We didn't have kids
when we first met.
Oh, right.
We didn't have no children.
We didn't have kids.
And that's one of the things
that we share in regard to having kids watching them grow up yeah and you you know you coming from
your uh coming from your um from college yeah how did it feel and this is like um i know i'm
probably all over the place but i think one of one of the things that i love more than anything
about you is the type of father you are.
How did it feel when you knew you was about to have your first child?
It completely changed my life, man.
Because I'm going to be honest with y'all.
A lot of people don't know I was injured before badly.
Deathbed.
Shut up.
Laid up.
Shut up, yeah.
Jay-Z, reasonable doubt.
But after that, you know,
God bless his man, you know,
my pops passed away.
And then I found out I was having
a kid. And
it kind of startled me. I was scared because I
didn't understand it. Like, I ain't never have no kid.
I got nieces. The circle of life. You know what I'm saying?
I didn't know nothing. Then I was still in the street.
That's the only thing I was scared of. Like, can I get away from that? You know what I'm saying? I didn't know nothing. Then I was still in the street. That's the only thing I was scared of.
Can I get away from that?
You know what I'm saying?
And that's the thing that got me nervous.
So I was kind of rejected.
Was this your means of living also, of making money?
Yeah.
All the way in.
So I didn't want to connect my kid or my kid Mars with that shit.
And I didn't really want to have the kid, right?
But as time was going,
I was talking to my cousin Brooklyn Mike
because he has several kids.
That nigga got a whole basketball team.
That nigga got a franchise.
And that, he gave me a different look.
You know what I mean?
And then, you know, they say
when you lose a life you gain a life
the circle of life
and I didn't know it was going to be a boy at the time
I didn't know none of that
and when that happened man
and then like when I finally seen him and held him
man my life I'm like I'm not
I'm putting it down man I can't do it no more
because it's him
I don't never want him
to have me in him that way.
And I've seen some times,
like everybody's life is up there.
I've seen some trying times.
You're frustrated about work
and different stuff.
Yeah.
And I just see,
you called me,
fuck this D.
Yeah.
Man, fuck this D.
And I could tell.
I was going, yeah.
And I could tell,
I was like,
oh, this motherfucker
about to kirk out.
But even with that said, I always respect the fact that when this motherfucker about to about to kirk out but even with that said
I always respect the fact
that when
like motherfuckers
can figure out
quick ways to get money
and do some shit
that you're going to regret
but you always
and a lot of people
don't do it
you always put
the relationship
you got with your kid
first and may squash that
another question
your second kid
you got two kids
you got a daughter
yes I got a daughter
my beautiful daughter
and this was
an interesting story
go for it let's go yo yo I don't know this is the first second kid. You got two kids. You got a daughter, right? Yes, I got a daughter, my beautiful daughter. And this was an interesting story.
Go for it. Let's go.
Yo, I don't know. This is the first this is the craziest way I've ever
heard a nigga make an announcement about a kid, right?
He said
he called me one day.
He said, D, what's up? He said, man, I'm having a girl,
man. I said, when?
He said, now, nigga.
Yo, yo,
I'm like, how do you know that? What the fuck do you mean?
Yo, yo, like,
there was no, like, you know,
my shorty pregnant.
I hit it. I hit that shit. I said, what happened?
The nigga said,
when the ribbies in your sister. Yo, son.
Yo, and when we was on the road
and everything, right,
I was getting the calls, right?
And I'm like,
just make the fuck out of here
with all that bullshit, right?
Right.
I'm getting the calls.
I ain't believe it, right?
Whatever the case.
And when I got,
and I found out,
I'm like this.
I'm shocked again.
I'm like, two?
Right.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
But again,
when you get them in your hand, man, it's just totally, if you come to my crib, you always see that picture.
You've seen it in my crib, son.
It's a picture of her just touching my lip.
And that shit just, I look at that.
Every time I get frustrated, that's the picture I look at, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Because that's going to keep me focused on what I have to do for them, man.
You know what I mean? I can't lose track and shit, man.
Because it's easy.
Like you said, it's so easy, man.
The devil still walks out, man.
It's in these streets, bro.
But you know what you could do?
What's that?
You could do the same principles
and the same thing that I do with my kid.
What?
And be like, just pray for him.
Oh, just pray for him?
Yo, you got to pray for him, man.
Yo, listen, listen.
You got to pray for him, man.
You know, this is what made me know that you was real family. You was real gang, listen. You got to pray for him, man. You know, this is what made me know that you was real family.
You was real gang, gang.
Like, you know, it was Donnell that brought me to Brooklyn.
I was a Harlem nigga.
No, no, I didn't bring you.
You just forced me.
You just started living there, man.
No, but I'm just saying, I followed you to the Palm Court Lounge.
He said you just started living there.
You just started.
And he ain't lying.
He ain't lying. That kind of you just started. You just started. And that just, he ain't lying. He ain't lying.
That kind of happened.
That just happened.
It started one day,
he cooked.
I was just hanging out there,
he cooked.
I was like, oh, what?
And then, you know,
I went to the store
and they let me back in.
There was no pressure
about me leaving.
So I spent the night.
The next day,
they was just doing comedy.
I spent the night again.
They didn't care.
And then I just realized, wait a moment.
I'm not a bother here.
I'm here.
No, you are the bother.
You ate all the food.
I did.
You kept cooking.
What the fuck was I supposed to do?
You ate all the goddamn food.
And you would disappear at the right time.
Are you serious, Donnell?
You would send me to go get all of the stuff,
the eggs, the bread, the butter.
But that does not mean stay.
You think that you're going to get the bread like,
oh, I'm going to be here for a week.
I just got a week worth of rent.
But this is when I knew you were gay.
When you guys shot up, shot up.
When Donnell went to go see you. Oh, let me tell you. When you guys shot up, shot up? Mm-hmm. When Donnell went to go see you.
Oh, let me tell you.
When you was laid up, bruh.
Oh.
And niggas wasn't present.
Yeah.
I remember you telling me later on, like, yo, I just went to go see 40, dog.
And let me tell you, this nigga bust my staple, too.
He bust my fucking staple. You didn't say that. No, not like that. Oh, dog. And let me tell you, this nigga bust my staple. He bust my staple, too. He bust my fucking staple.
You didn't say that.
No, not like that.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, no.
So let me tell you.
I'm on joke time.
What am I supposed to do, nigga?
I'm sorry you got shot.
I'm in the hospital, right?
I tell jokes.
I got staples from the top of my stomach
to the bottom of my stomach, right?
Colostomy bag, everything.
So I'm sitting there.
I can't even move.
If I move a certain way, it hurts.
Hear this dude come in
Serious face. I don't see a joke or nothing coming. So, you know like damn son you alright
I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I will be talking to shit. I see that smirk my head. I took my head
I said go in son
Niggas started son. I was in a bed. I swear to y'all I was in the bed like this
I was in the bed. I swear to y'all, I was in the bed like this. Yo, son, I was in the bed like this.
I said, yo.
And then.
He was like this.
He was in the bed.
He was like this.
Stop playing so funny.
Yo, son, I couldn't do.
You said you going to bust my stitches.
Stop playing so funny.
And that shit bust, too.
So I told him the next day.
But the doc was like, this is what you was doing in here.
And my sister was there, I think.
And she was like this, laughing.
I was like, yo, it's fun.
But yeah.
That time in the hospital, I was in there, man.
Even like shout out to Tony Woods, man.
That dude called me, man.
A legend in comedy.
Tony Woods is a legend.
And after about 30 years, he's starting to get his props.
If you don't know Tony Woods, make sure you follow him.
Please.
When it comes to DC comedy, for the most part, every DC comedy from his period on down has some type of a piece
or something
part of Tony
Tony Woods was
Dave Chappelle's mentor
when he first started
doing comedy
he used to take him
to the clubs
when Dave was too young
to go in the clubs
and even Dave Chappelle
has the
he won the Mark Twain prize
it's going to be airing
on PBC
yeah he shouted
Tony out at that
a big shout out
big shout out
to Tony Woods
shout out to all of yo shout out to Tony Woods. Shout out to all of, yo.
Tony is doing The Art of Comedy in D.C. in March.
Shout out to Tony for that, man.
That's really big.
Tony with a legend.
Tony with a D.C. legend.
Fat Dog, a D.C. legend.
Martin Lawrence.
There's so many comics come out of D.C.
I consider myself a D.C. comic that has migrated,
that migrated to New York and got a chance.
And the reason why, like, this episode for me,
I was like, I want to talk about, like, friendship,
share some stories.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
It's something different.
Shout out to Kate Quigley.
She couldn't be here because this is the holiday time
and we out, and I wanted to be able to say
we can do this anywhere.
It's the reason why
all three of these guys
that are on this couch today,
one of my closest friends,
one of my fucking problem childs,
one of my good friends,
Andy,
if you,
I'm telling you,
if you are excited about
my social media,
the page
and everything I'm doing,
this dude is a large part of that.
Dope-ass friend, dope-ass dad,
dope-ass motherfucking meme dude.
My motherfucking wild-ass motherfucking son
right here, Jay Marks.
Hopefully, he doesn't spend no more time in college.
You're already smart enough, Jimmy.
Yeah, college, we done.
We got our degrees.
We done, yeah.
We out, we out.
And my man, I don't know what you,
what are you, what are you, what you what are you? Jermaine?
Jermaine 40. Y'all know
I'm Jermaine 40 Johnson.
I want to go out.
We're in the studio. This is not our space
but I want to do something different. I want to go
I wonder
if the streets
know where the man's is.
If y'all got time, we're in Harlem.
We're in New York City.
I love this place.
My second home.
Let's hit the streets.
Yeah, let's just do it.
Let's just figure it out.
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Thank you, Don Air.
Fire in the hole.
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We're going to get it together.
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Peace. Thank you.