Don't Blame Me! - BAIW: Get My Boyfriend Out of My House

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 hi hello sweet little angel fairies hello sweet numbs welcome to a brand new episode of but am i wrong question mark question mark this is but am i wrong where we tell you when you're wrong doesn't that sound like a good time i love that time and here's the thing we're not telling you listeners when you're wrong we're telling people are submitting themselves they're subjecting themselves to being like hey pass some judgment from from two gorgeous hotties who i trust their judgment would love to hear it but also can be like hey i'm presenting the situation i want to judge this one where who do you want to judge and then we say yes it's this one actually no it's the other one and then we also do things where we just we judge people that like you're
Starting point is 00:01:05 probably judging already on your timeline you know you're scrolling through tiktok it's like the hyper fixation the thing that you've been thinking about or someone you've never heard of before and that suddenly is like your mortal enemy by the time the episode's over yes i got a little lost in there but i know what the show is so i don't really need an explanation and that's all i need from you because you also just watched me take my medication i did so you know that it will kick in and ideally what you what i want in my day is is to have the crossover where like you know it starts to taper off and then it picks back up unfortunately sometimes as in yesterday yes when we recorded it tapered off and then about two hours later i realized oh shit i gotta take it
Starting point is 00:01:48 again so that was more of a struggle anyways we have three different segments in this show we will explain each one before we get into it but we want you to participate that's really what you need to know we don't just want you to listen obviously we love when you listen we love when you watch the video version on patreon but we really love it when you participate so we post on our instagram stories all of the different segments and who do you think was wrong and you vote on each one and then we read the results on our see you next tuesday episode of who was wrong what what the masses said we read the percentages of where the what the jury's verdict was as well as your responses on why you voted the way you did your thoughts and your feelings so you can
Starting point is 00:02:30 just reply to those stories we also put them in a highlight as they're up and we do now do a quicker turnaround with these yeah but we love to hear from you and truly unless it's like really fucking insane there are no hard feelings if you vote opposite unless you pick something racist yeah unless you're like yeah i'm i'm actually a big fan of of of the cop who's actually harassed who did all these horrible things i love a pointy white hat yeah if you say that then i would go i think you were lost and thank you for letting us know who you are anything else or should we into our first segment let's go ahead and dilly dally triple dog dare somersault backflip dive into but am i wrong and which one is this this is where we pick something from our personal lives
Starting point is 00:03:24 or a rant or something we just feel very passionately about that we like to educate everyone else on and not scream but let it marinate into the juices of our brains oh yeah i love a marinated psyche and then we also put that up to vote and you're first this week megan what do you have i am first my first is i don't know if this is a hot take but really what this is classes in session motherfuckers oh words have meaning do you need a ruler smack some ass words have meaning and the word in question today is bullying oh gosh now the oxford dictionary definition of bullying i'm pulling a u seek to harm intimidate or coerce someone perceived as vulnerable now this man named clayton i don't know what the fuck his last name is he was the
Starting point is 00:04:22 Bachelor he and I will say it and here's the thing Clayton I will bully you I'll show you what bullying is that was in your profile for a long time isn't it is it still there well I did I do like to give people a warning that I will in fact bully them he responded because Gabby why is my mind code Gabby Douglas Gabby Windy Gabby Windy who was she was a contestant on his season of the bachelor and then she went on to do like a dual season of the bachelorette her and this other woman rachel and then she also went on to win the traders she's got a very funny podcast she is married to this comedian robbie i do not know these people so i'm not gonna be able to help you at all robbie hoffman i'm like 99 sure it's hoffman yes robbie hoffman and
Starting point is 00:05:15 she was just recently gabby gabby's hilarious she's like so funny she's she's just wonderful she's got she's got mommy problems so i'm like i relate i see you i've shown you some of her tiktoks when you say mommy problems i'm more so thinking of mothers that have problems instead of mommy issues oh yeah yeah so yeah yeah for sure but she was recently a guest on the lost culture he says podcast with matt rogers and bowen yang and one of the things that she is asked about frequently is her history of being on The Bachelor because Gabby is a lesbian now I that's as far as everything I've seen her how she describes herself is that she was like she was like yeah I went on The Bachelor I was like oh how did that end she goes well I'm married to a woman now
Starting point is 00:06:01 so not well so Robbie is a woman Robbie is a woman okay and so so it's like she incorporates this in a lot of her bits about like being like can you believe it like that this is who i was before i was on the show and everyone's like oh were you she's like i didn't even know i was gay like i she's like everybody would message me in the dms afterwards being like gabby we knew and she was like everybody knew why didn't you tell me yeah and so um she is like talking about it on their podcast being like can you fucking believe that like i like essentially like that i crashed out over a man who looked like he looks like a thumb like and he treated her so poorly like he he really like he slept with all three finalists i didn't watch his season but i saw this when it
Starting point is 00:06:47 was going down because i was like this man is i think i've called this man a toe and a thumb before she even did i was like what's his name a thumb thumb clayton if i just put it in clayton clayton bachelorette yeah clayton etchard eckard you showed him to me before so she was like just talking about me like okay like he wanted he slept with the last three contestant finalists which like objectively as someone who used to watch the bachelor is poor form you should not sleep with the last three finalists because by the way they will find out like it is not something that you can like you can't secretly like it just doesn't fucking happen and so remember that time you were in the audience for The Bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yes, I think they still literally use that as a reaction. And I was like, that was from one year, like one time, but they reused it all these other seasons. And then one of the girls found out that he slept with all three of them. And she was like, she self-eliminated and basically was like, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Because usually how it is, is like, you know you're the one who's getting picked because it's who you slept with. Like, and by the way, I think the women, the Bachelorettes, should be allowed to sleep with all of them. The men, they don't, they keep it a secret. and then they're like
Starting point is 00:07:58 oh my god she found the women who were like yeah I'm sleeping with all of them I gotta figure it out the guys don't do it like that so the girl found out
Starting point is 00:08:06 that she so she self-eliminated and so then he was like okay you know like sad about it but like I'm still I've got I've got Rachel and Gabby here
Starting point is 00:08:13 and you know Gabby tried to self-eliminate and then he was like no no no begs insists on her staying then like whatever
Starting point is 00:08:20 two days go by they're sequestered and he goes actually to both of the girls same time I'm gonna go get the other one
Starting point is 00:08:28 dumps them at the same time together for the girl who left wow did her so dirty on fucking national like did her so dirty and this man is a fucking thumb so of course she doesn't have nice things to say about him but in the context of how she's talking about him on the podcast it is like of all of the people for me like can you believe that i did like perceived to be one of the straightest things ever which is like going on the batch and doing all of this kind of shit And she goes, and for this man, like this was the man that was standing between me and realizing that I was gay. Like, what the?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Sometimes it takes a man like that, I guess. And so she's talking about that. And so then he makes a response where he makes a fucking response video. And she talks about his skinny jeans and how he's like making cringy dances on TikTok. That thick man wears skinny jeans? That pea-headed man. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Uh-huh. Body like a hoagie. Straight one size all the way down. I can tell just from his neck up. Yeah. We've got the tiniest little head. She's got a P on top of a hoagie and skinny jeans with,
Starting point is 00:09:30 without a doubt, the ankle is out. And low socks probably too. Or no socks. No show socks. With low foot. Boat shoes. Yuck.
Starting point is 00:09:39 So then he makes a response video on his TikTok to her being on a podcast. She didn't like make a TikTok. It's, she was asked a question on the podcast about it. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:09:51 Gabby, bullying is never okay. Like, I'm just, this is my passion which i did recently have what is his passion well i had one of the top comments on a tiktok about this because i was like skinny jeans are his passion like that's what she was really making fun of him for of like this man wearing skinny jeans like no he meant they meant dancing i was like gabby was a broncos cheerleader and on dancing runner up on dancing
Starting point is 00:10:12 with the stars and they're and his his dancing passion is tiktok dances this man went on charlie kirk this man is like manosphere like men's mental health awareness which is the alt-right fucking pipeline and now all of bachelor nation by all bachelor nation i mean like the the people who self-identify as bachelor nation so the white women of ohio they are so mad at gabby of like she is a bully she's a horrible person all of this these are the same people who defend contestants for doing the most racist shit of being like it's not but it's this and Clayton Gaby wasn't bullying you. She was talking shit. And by the way, that is as a society, we have to maintain the passing along of storytelling. And sometimes storytelling
Starting point is 00:10:57 smells a little stinky. Sometimes it's a little shitty. It's a little poo-poo. It's a little shit talk. And I can show you bullying. And this is objectively crazy also because this is the same man who like had that whole thing with that girl. I'm like 99% sure it was him. The girl who like pretended to be pregnant with his like oh yes and i'm like okay okay clayton let let's talk about but like we have bigger fish to fry like you're upset about gabby here and really what it is giving is like straight guy who is like feeling offended as they do for some fucking reason when their exes come out as gay afterwards that's the vibe he's giving me and i'm like ew and also clayton you have eyes you do look a little bit like a thumb and like
Starting point is 00:11:49 that's okay i look like i've been told sometimes i look like someone told me i look like a pug once and i was like i think your eyes would need to be i've seen people that look like pugs and their eyes and i knew what they don't have that eye those eyes no but like baby me looks like what amy schumer grew up into like that we can be self-aware about our own appearance There was one time a Got Milk ad with a man in chain mail and I looked exactly like him. And I did a side by side photo and I said, twin, where have you been in the pages of the magazine selling Got Milk? So words have definitions.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And I really cannot fucking stand, cannot fucking stand when a man's going to get up here and say, bullying, please explain to me the power imbalance here. please explain to me how how you are being picked on for being weaker lesser and little mr hoagie hate it the end you're not wrong the pictures of side by side that they do though clayton in like a stupid little suede jacket gabby in like a suit with her glasses looking gorgeous and cunty i love it i think you'd really like her she's really funny and she's really smart all right we're gonna take a break and when we get back we'll get into mine all right we're back from our break and now it's time to get into mine
Starting point is 00:13:32 and mine is protests should be a little scary so there are a plethora of reasons why people protest there was a big one this past weekend well when you're hearing this two weekends ago protests happen as a collective expression and action aimed at bringing about change or prevented unwanted change. In this case, both. You also go to express grievances and dissatisfaction, demanding change, raising awareness and education in the public, exercising rights and freedoms, showing solidarity and support. People protest because they feel something is wrong and they want to make it right. They use the power of the collective action to express their grievances, demand change, raise awareness, exercise their rights, and show
Starting point is 00:14:28 solidarity. Protests are a vital part of democratic societies and a powerful tool for social and political change throughout history. And like I said, there was a protest a couple weeks ago. I did not attend because I'm Black and I voted for Kamala Harris and also I had class. I am classy, but I had a physical class to go to in school and for quite a few people, white people, the majority of the people that were out there, it was their first protests at big old ages, too. And they didn't know how to act. And I just want to reflect back on to some of the biggest movements in this country all came with violence. And so like the civil rights movement, my ancestors family, people were getting sprayed down with hoses, attacked by dogs, beat by police. even in recent if we want to go to like 2020 guns were being pulled out people were hit by
Starting point is 00:15:39 rubber bullets and maced and a lot of horrible horrible things yes kent state with uh people sitting having sit-ins for palestine students losing their degrees for like you should be a little bit afraid that's why like a lot of times when people are protesting they will make sure that they don't have any unknown warrants out for their arrests like they forgot to pay um like a parking ticket or something because there's a little fear that goes into this you are you're disrupting the people in power and so then they don't like that so they try to fight that with the police or unauthorized remember when they were just picking people up in the streets they're still doing that like ice is doing that now yep so like civilian clothes it's like yes
Starting point is 00:16:33 it's not like you see on tv that's with dupe due process is out the fucking window right like there is a part of fear that goes into it i'm sure your dad probably had a lot of stuff going on too well i was gonna say that like as a kid who grew up at like going to protests there were specific ones that i went to there it's not everything so like my memories of protests as a kid are parade protests yeah which are going to celebrate something that you know before gay marriage was legalized like having i don't think it was during pride but like having a celebration of it it is not about disrupting necessarily the status quo but showing support and showing up for a cause and then also like things that are like you know the honk honking ones where you're standing
Starting point is 00:17:25 with a group of people but like they are not mass organized at like massive levels like this or even ones that are protests about like like uh action based of like signing up and trying to get people to like sign a petition for this and do x y and z whatever those are the ones that i went to as a kid that was like not all the not all the protests my dad was going to like he won't even tell me how many times he's been arrested yep and specifically most as far i mean some of them could be not at protest but like i assume most of them are as far as i know yeah so like you grew up going to protests but going to ones that were a specific subset yes appropriate for for a child to go to yes so um this woman megan not this one with no h right no h okay gilman got on threads
Starting point is 00:18:12 and type this out. Thoughts from my first protest. One, my kid was bored. I don't think it would be too hard to arrange a bouncy castle or something. Two, people laughed at my sign. So I made some friends and that was nice. Three, IDK. I think there should be more singing. Overall, eight out of 10 would do it again so i'm gonna go through these one your kid was bored if your kid was bored that means that you didn't educate them enough to even be going to this protest and if they're too i don't know how old her kids are if they were too little to understand and they had to be pushed in a stroller give them the fucking ipad and then arranging a bouncy house you do know people like gets pepper sprayed and rubber bullets are shot out what if they hit the bouncy
Starting point is 00:19:13 house hit your kid these are things that you need to be very aware of while you're there not that your kid is bored what is wrong with you no it's literally what is wrong with you and then people laughed at my sign so i made some friends okay also show me your sign i want to see this sign what did it say are you and are you sure they weren't laughing at you that's my question are they laughing with you or at you because when i read it i assumed it was at and then i was like when you just read it again i go oh i actually think she means with three there should idk first of all idk i think there should be more singing do we need we need buzzfeed to hire the people who make listicles back
Starting point is 00:19:59 because clearly this is what she's destined to do. What do you mean? You think that everybody should be singing and chanting like there should be more of this? Might I advise you to find a give peace a chance
Starting point is 00:20:12 fucking rally in Marin County, California. You will find so many, so much sing song and zero, like quite literally a lot of performative aspects. Like it is just like,
Starting point is 00:20:25 this feels like the biggest like self-tell ever. And then she said later, me to the Internet. I'm going to my first protest. I'm nervous. The Internet, we got you. We can do this. Thanks for showing up.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You're going to have so much fun. Three hours later, that was my best SpongeBob impression. I think that's what she wanted you to do. Yep. Me to the Internet. I went to my first protest and I think it was great, but it would be awesome if we were more inclusive of children and families. First of all, that's not what you said. And also still objectively weird.
Starting point is 00:21:01 The internet. Are you crazy? Protests are not supposed to be fun. Why don't you organize your own protests next time? You don't understand anything. Exactly. Thank you, internet. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But like, is this supposed to make us have sympathy for you? I would bet you $100 that she has a sub stack linked in her bio. Like, it is giving BuzzFeed listicle. Yeah. Because, like, why are you even raiding a protest? And then she goes later, today I got very confused because a lot of strangers on the internet implied that I was in some way uninformed or ignorant
Starting point is 00:21:39 about what a protest, in quotes, a protest was supposed to be. And that a protest, quote unquote, and a rally, quote unquote, are totally different things. Yes, they are. And then she goes through and lists things that she clearly got off of the AI at the top of Google. like you woman you could have gone and had all these thoughts and you did not need to post it on the internet of course she wants to be seen yeah she probably has a sub stack and this is
Starting point is 00:22:09 what's wrong with white feminists this is everything in one it's just encapsulated in in one thread by this one woman yep you want you you don't want the pain and the hurt you don't want to be out here really fighting for a cause you wanted to go to a day party that you could bring your kids to you should have just gone to the fucking farmer's market you know she didn't want to be left out yep that's what it's there is a and i say this as a white woman there is this intrinsic need within my own community of of needing to be included in everything that's absolutely everything this intense thing of like FOMO and then it becomes like oh well this is the thing like this is this is what this is what everybody's doing like i gotta be a part
Starting point is 00:22:56 of it and it's not like oh i have to be a part of it so like i can tell my grandkids i did something it's no i i gotta be a part of it so in the moment when i'm there i'm not scrolling and then seeing that other people are doing something it's not like about like the guilt or the onus of like response of responsibility you have for your community it is just about like an experience that like well i everybody else is doing it i can't be left out and i need to get my pictures And it's really again. And I know I had a really, really, really different upbringing than like most specifically most white women on in progressive cities. But like to just like get online and say like you've never been to like a protest before and that you're afraid of it while also simultaneously like bringing your kid like it just doesn't add up and it doesn't make sense to me. And like I like you got through all of college without going to a protest. Like you got through like, you know, you got through all of 2020 without going to a protest.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Like I will I will give like COVID. And if you were pregnant, like I don't know how old her kid is. Like if she was. But even like after Hillary lost and there was those that's the pussy hat protest would have been perfect for her. There were there were a lot of us there. I was there. That's just like the thing that I'm like, I look at and I'm like, there's just to me, it would be it's shocking to think that like at this day and age and the part that's like disheartening to me is that like you found this to be relatable content to share. You should have been embarrassed that you this to me, it's like the same level of people being like, I'm going to vlog my first day ever voting.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I am 29 years old and I've never voted in an election before. And I'm like, I hate that, you know, there's an audience for this. Like, I hate that this is a like a relatable thing of like, oh, let's not judge or whatever. I'm like, sometimes I do think we should we should judge. Right. And like her being like turns out like a rally and a protest around the same. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:24:50 When she did her own Google search, she concluded it was the same thing, but she was just using the AI at the top. They're not the same. They're not the same. And then also, like, I saw this black woman say she was at work and this white woman had asked her like are you going out this weekend like doing the same type of vibes and the black woman was like no because when we show up they call it a riot well and that's like the part of the reason why this white woman felt safe bringing her children and it's like this idea of like you
Starting point is 00:25:22 can't claim to be oh i'm afraid what's going to happen well simultaneously knowing that the the turnout is going to be almost entirely white women specifically and that's why you felt safe enough and comfortable enough to bring your your kid but then you also can't acknowledge that that's the reason why you felt safe enough is because you knew it wasn't going to get violent because you knew it was also just a bunch of other white women there so then have this conversation with them right don't put it online right and then she kept double triple like quadrupling down on it and it just was not it's threads it threads it's not like she's getting paid to say this shit it's for free like i don't understand how you just get on the internet and then people are telling you
Starting point is 00:26:09 why you're wrong and you're just keep pushing and pushing i think she has a humiliation kink well especially because it started with uh i've never been to one of these before i'm scared and i go now suddenly you're an expert right suddenly you know so much and also ma'am there are rallies with fucking bouncy like this is you i'm the women's march in 2017 at the end of it there was face painting there were bouncy houses there were balloons do you know how many times i've gotten a pride flag painted on my face before the age of 10 like there is just no effort put into the the thought process of all and just assuming that everything is accommodating for you and your family and like do i think that in general things should be accommodating for children yes but the
Starting point is 00:26:56 world is not built like that and then specifically the goal of this if you really thought that this this protest was going to do much of anything it has to disrupt the status quo and therefore there's a liability don't bring your fucking kid right but i promise you you can find things to support political moral ethical causes that are family friendly involve your children and will also teach you fucking something so if this is your first time experiencing something shut up and learn from the people that have been before and also keep your thoughts off the internet there is no rating a protest and that's crazy you should be a little scared to go and also just think of like the like what happens would you do if you if you saw a bunch of pointy
Starting point is 00:27:47 white hats like that's not if that woman thinks like that's great that's not it what would happen if you thought what would happen if you saw a group of proud boys like what would you what would you do like are you wearing shoes to like you shouldn't even be wearing like sandals you need to be wearing closed-toed shoes with laces that you can run in you need to have your location like all that like what were you what are you gonna do with your kid like it's not about reapplying sunscreen it's about like if shit gets serious what's gonna happen to your kid right insane just give give them a fucking little sign and do the honk a honk if you support you could have just whatever in your car honking yeah like it's just like it's also like it's really not it's really
Starting point is 00:28:36 not hard and i do think involving your children in politics and like taking a stand for things is great i do think that there's a huge reason of why i am the way that i am is because like there was never a point where like that wasn't a thing i have an issue with authority and i think a lot of it is because of like that was just how I was brought up and it's not even necessarily active teaching but it's also like the environments I was in the communities I was in and then the questions that that would pose me to ask and do all that like it's a great thing and I do feel like she's gonna be like fine I just don't ever bring my kid again I'm like and I do and there was probably a point where you were bored when you were little probably but I don't remember
Starting point is 00:29:11 and the thing is is like I survived you were there you were still just because you're bored doesn't mean that you're not soaking in the information and also being bored didn't kill me i'm fine i survived it didn't turn me against any cause whatever and like i even remember like you know making signs with my friends i remember inviting like new friends that i had if they asked what like my weekend plans were and i was like oh i'm going with my dad to this thing and having them come along like there is such a way to have there be an entry point for children but like if you can't even do the bare minimum of researching this then i'm like don't bring your kid right even if this is the safest thing in the world i'm not don't bring your kid because you
Starting point is 00:29:50 haven't even done enough research that like god forbid even something as like non-political as a like a road being shut down and then someone not paying attention to that and then turning down a closed down street that happened like it's not like a it's not like an anti-protect like it can literally just be an accident in that matter if you haven't thought about all of those things and prepared all of like this like i don't think you should bring your kid like that it's not safe I don't think you raise your kid to the farmer's market if you haven't had those conversations. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:19 She has a deprogramming diaries newsletter, yoga and movement IRL. She looks like Midwestern. Like I'm thinking. The secret to earning more without burning out. Free course. Of course she's got courses. Good girl deprogramming.
Starting point is 00:30:37 What? She has a coaching thing called good girl deprogramming. Okay, deprogramming from what? Because the alt-right? from being a people pleaser okay i would like you to please me a little bit more i'm now thinking colorado new york upstate new windsor new york well yeah that's to me even more ridiculous if you're in new york yeah that's fucking crazy all right well that's mine yeah you're not wrong thanks
Starting point is 00:31:11 We're going to take a break. When we get back, we'll get into, but are you wrong? When WestJap first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion. Inline skates were everywhere. And two out of three women rocked the Rachel. While those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get
Starting point is 00:31:41 when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to WestJetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. We are back. It's time for But Are You Wrong? This is where we read your submissions that you send to butamirongpod at gmail.com
Starting point is 00:32:08 and tell us about the thing that is plaguing you. If you are wrong about something, would you be wrong? Tell us the situation. Keep it under 300 words. You have to be 18 or over. Please let us know your age.
Starting point is 00:32:21 It is all anonymous. So pseudonyms are fine, but just give us all relevant information and we'll rule on it. Here we go. Hi, Megan and Melissa. I'm 26, she, her,
Starting point is 00:32:32 and I've been with my fiance, 28, he, him, for two years, engaged for three months. something has been bothering me since the holidays we went back to his hometown to spend christmas with his mom he's from a relatively small town no matter where we went target pre-boycott christmas tree shopping church we ran into somebody he slept with town bike i've slept with my fair share of guys so at first it didn't bother me we've always been super open about our past and i thought i wanted complete honesty in a relationship but the more people he ran into
Starting point is 00:32:59 the more uncomfortable i felt would i be wrong to tell him that i actually no longer want complete honesty when it comes to our past hookups because it really made me feel some type of way his high school reunion is coming up and his high school reunion is coming up and i think i'd rather not know for more context he is bi so it was both men and women i don't know if that matters but i thought i'd throw it in there the reason why you said i don't know if that matters is because it was a lot of people it doubled it was like you were like no i just need you to know he was popular amongst everybody he people loved him here's the thing if they were happy to see him I know that this would without a doubt be tough I understand but like if they were happy to see him pat yourself
Starting point is 00:33:40 on the back like you got he was popular you got a good one yeah you would not be wrong at all I think this is a perfect mentality to have me like hey you know I love the radical honesty I would actually like to be a little less radical in that honesty yes yes yes and I think knowing that it's leading up to the high school reunion, but you said, hey, I've already seen what I needed to see. I don't need to know. Oh my gosh, this is so funny.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Because to me, I'm like, at this point, how you're describing it, it's like, are you going with him as a date? Because like, for me, I'd be like, I don't want you to point out the people you haven't slept with. Of course she's going. That's why she's like, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I don't want to know anymore. Here's the thing. We even went to church. Yeah, and the pastor is like, hey. It's like, oh my God. He's the youth pastor. Exactly. it's always a gay man here's the thing though that it's like you will be able to tell when
Starting point is 00:34:32 and i've had that before like monsoon will go to like one of like his college friends weddings and like i'll see someone who's looking at him or like looking at me and like they not even necessarily have a conversation i'll be like oh they definitely fucked in college and then i will ask later and he'd be like oh yeah but like you will know already he doesn't need to be like just just for transparency we slept together you make by the way i fucking understand yeah i got it like i i i now have seen enough of this that like i can i have my own level of discernment to be like yeah this one you slept with this one you and if there's any gray area i can ask follow-up question but like i think we can scale back on the on the explanation or even just
Starting point is 00:35:16 closing voluntarily if i ask yeah if i ask that means i want to know if i don't ask because it could have been like a joke before or just something they'd been like you know like I slept with him or her or whatever well also especially like if I don't know how far away you moved but I think it is different when you're like in a city or something that you know they haven't been in it's on because like usually that means that like you know this is someone you date this is like an ex that you might have heard about but like a high school like this isn't this isn't necessarily have like this usually doesn't bode to be a very a significant relationship in your past but also like anything you're gonna have to like deal with on a regular basis right right right like i don't
Starting point is 00:35:59 think you should like make a new friend and then your boyfriend not tell your fiance not tell you like but we we boned one time right right but if it's just in passing just somebody you're seeing in a small fucking town at target at like scoop which was our ice cream place like no like this we leave that here leave that here but i just have to say congratulations to you for signing clearly what was an incredibly desirable partner someone's very giving yes and especially if like they're everyone's like hey i'd be like oh my god yes were you just dishing out orgasms left right and center you can come you can come you can come like just hey but i also i personally my taste i love a run-through man yeah but it might just get tiring when it's everywhere you go i can figure
Starting point is 00:36:48 it out on my own and at this point you've already figured it out and she was like i've been i've had my fair share i thought i was right he was yeah so uh yeah you're not wrong you're not wrong at all and you're handling this in a perfect way thank you for sharing yeah i love that thank you all right the next one hi megan and melissa i have a but am i wrong 32 she heard my boyfriend and 30 he him and I've been together for two years and we've been living together for six months because I thought it was time and it could save money and he was over my house all the time anyway I love him so much and I love spending quality time with him but I need physical space not time away from him if that makes sense the problem is I hate waking up next to him every single morning
Starting point is 00:37:38 I hate that his stuff is where my stuff should be. And I hate that I have to plan my meals around what we jointly want to eat. I think I value my independence way too much, even though I deeply love him. Would I be wrong if I asked him to move out? Oh, my God. I didn't know we were going there. I think that's the only way to save our relationship. He has to move out.
Starting point is 00:38:00 He has to because you're going to. Here's the thing. If you stay with him, he needs to move out. if you break up with him he's going to move out anyway regardless this man needs to get out he's gotta get out of your house this man needs to get out of your house my other thing it might be because this was your house before and now it's not just your house before and you might just feel suffocated it might be where you need to find a new place that's y'all's place together yeah and then that way it could possibly be bigger there could be more things but also you don't have a
Starting point is 00:38:35 claim on every you didn't have a claim on everything before i i i don't think you're wrong you try it was a trial period it could there are a lot of couples that have two different bedrooms in the same like that one person has their own bedroom the other person has their own their bedroom and they are in the same house yeah i mean i'm we've said this on this podcast before i'm like a firm believer in one person should never move into another person's established space you should always move into a new place together and like even when mons and i were dating like we started dating in october of a year one of those years and then in january years ago yeah in january we moved just to the upstairs unit of that same place and like it's just about
Starting point is 00:39:21 like because yeah why would a man be there why is a man encroaching on yours like you're having to adjust things that have already been established that you have had and like you you have familiarity with like you're used to this thing being there and now suddenly his thing is here and also there's like a level of if he's already like you know coming over to be a guest men also get real comfortable real fast so i would also ask yourself like is he being respectful of your place because sure he can pay rent there he can pay whatever there but i do think there is a power imbalance when you move into someone's established place because i do think if this is your place first whether you own it or you rent it or it's your furniture whatever that is
Starting point is 00:40:00 i do think you have a bigger say like i just i i just fundamentally do because you have more liability there whether it's like your security deposit or your furniture or mortgage or whatever so if he's like you know being kind of like more lax with like of all of those things if he like has shifted from a guest in a home perspective to i i live in my mom's basement versus i live with a partner and a roommate and someone i care about and this is a place that they care about i think they're to me that is a move out and then maybe we can see about you growing up and getting back together but like whatever he you don't have to break up no but he has to leave he has to leave though i hate this for you yeah you shouldn't feel like this at six like you really like you
Starting point is 00:40:48 probably felt like this at two months and now you're just like and you're like you're like i just need an adjustment period nope no no an adjustment period is normal you're past the point of an adjustment period like i love mots to death but the level of like annoyance that i had from my because like when i moved down when he moved upstairs with me it's still he wasn't on the lease yet it was still just my place but like i factored him in from the beginning but the way that like if i had to like like had to uh lower my standards of like my living of a place that i have the liability in and you've established it if i have to lower that for for a man who's just knocking some money off of the rent that i don't need him to do because he was not factored in from
Starting point is 00:41:36 the beginning right it builds a level of resentment that like you will just hate looking at him you will hate everything about him and like i love him to pieces but like you know sometimes he leaves his clothes on the floor and it's annoying but like i don't wake up and like roll over and like look at him and get annoyed and like you're getting annoyed with him because to me that's it's a combination of being disrespectful not sharing any of the responsibility and he's just too he's just around and he needs to get out yeah and you're like no not just like physicals you know no i think he needs to leave like forever and then you know work his way back in with a gauntlet so hunger games yeah you're not wrong have him leave or go find a new place around
Starting point is 00:42:17 what we both want it sounds like you're it sounds like you have a nanny job what do you mean the kids want to eat yeah kick him out or find a place together that's more expensive i don't i whatever he needs to get out of your house that is your house why is he there yeah he's lost yes Send him on his way. Send him on his way. Sorry. Sorry for him. Happy for you.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Can't wait for you to have this freedom back. I can't wait for you to breathe. Yeah. Take a shit in peace. I know this man shits with the door open too. All right. We're going to take another break. And when we get back, we'll get into, but are they wrong?
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Starting point is 00:43:56 or revelance that we'd like to point out and say you're wrong. Oh, shame on you. And who do you got, Megan? I would like to nominate J.K. Rowling. Again?
Starting point is 00:44:13 Yes, but because I have ended up on a deep dive and a Mount Rushmore that I guess has been going on since about 2022, but I was not privy to it and it's brand new information to me. So that's, we have to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Which means it's probably brand new information for me too. Yes. And it was brand new information when I told Mott's because that's how I will, I asked him to gauge if maybe, like to see if he knew
Starting point is 00:44:37 if I was the last person on earth. So I think you also don't know. So on International Asexuality Day, which was April 6th, and I will say, thank you, Joanne, because up until you mentioned this, I didn't know this existed.
Starting point is 00:44:51 So thank you for bringing attention to it. She tweeted, happy international fake oppression day to everyone who wants complete strangers to know they don't fancy a shag what an odd thing to say very weird very odd and she also tweeted how do asexual people know whether they're gay or straight i wonder is that a coherent thought to you they're asexual yeah so anybody who has like a lot of people have like kind of moved on from the jk rolling like discourse because they're like oh you know she she doesn't hate trans people she's just like you know the the typical like turf talking points it's like she's just like concerned
Starting point is 00:45:31 about like women's safety um if you or anyone in your life still believes that you actually have not checked in with her in a very long time she hates everybody she outwardly and always has but like she's not hiding whatsoever or claiming she does not hate trans people she does she's coming after gay people she's coming after lesbians she's coming after people who are asexual someone asked her who she would like to cast or like something something about like who's who should play that i think it was about the like who should play the new harry ryan hermione or like something about whatever her implication was like i hate those three fucking kids now because they don't stand by her so you become enemy number one if you don't outwardly vehemently support
Starting point is 00:46:20 her agenda of insanity. And so this like popped up on my feed and I was like, of course, here she is doing her fucking shit again, again and again and again. And then I ended up in a comment section where people were saying, dang, that mold is really getting to her. And I was like, huh? Which brought me into thousands and thousands of videos, tweets, people talking about this. again since like 2022 of this pretty well documented and I think most people are pretty confident in saying that nearly factual deception of the fact that we are watching a woman go mad in a home full of mold what her house is molding she's been living in this same rich rich billionaire lady castle for years and she does these video interviews and over the course of the last couple
Starting point is 00:47:15 years there is black mold growing all over her walls that was not there before mold rage is a very real thing like it makes it doesn't turn you into a bigot or a racist or a transphobe or anything like that the same thing how we talk about like the lead paint generation it can completely remove your inhibitions or it removes your filter it removes all it removes your sense of like, should I say this? Should I not? Your impulse control, your, you know, how you feel about certain things, like it makes you rage out. And so to see this woman who always was a transphobe, always was, always was a bigot, has like completely deteriorated into this, like she feels like the anger fucking thing from inside out. Like she's just like literally like just sweating and angry
Starting point is 00:48:08 all of the time and her house is covered in mold. Why? She has all the money in the world. She is too busy. With her little
Starting point is 00:48:18 Twitter fingers. With her trans agenda. For her it's X, I will say. As the entire home is covered
Starting point is 00:48:26 in mold. Most likely it's everywhere. Like for real, why doesn't she, why doesn't she have somebody come in? Because she can't recognize it because she's so
Starting point is 00:48:35 fucking deep in it. Why can't she leave? Because she but she's at a level people are saying that it's like a level of mold in her home that is it's fucking with her brain so much that this is like every time we're like if i had as much money and as power as i would quite literally just like shut the fuck up and do whatever but she can't like she's living a miserable life because she insists upon living a miserable life and uh i have to there was one specific tweet that killed me because it was very poetic
Starting point is 00:49:08 and when i told mons and mons was like wait what now like yeah brand new information to me too brand new oh yeah she also tweeted at this point it's quicker to list who isn't under the queer umbrella than who is if there's one thing all religious heteronormative people have in common it's that they require all family members to be in constant date of sexual arousal i'm amazed you don't know this carol which is like her responding to just like a normal fucking person who's like being like can you not but someone did like a tweet of being like r.i.p edgar allen poe you would love to watch a billionaire be driven mad by the mold in her in her fucking castle like it is just and again it's like it's not an excuse whatsoever it doesn't make like it doesn't make
Starting point is 00:49:53 you like change it's the same thing with like roid rage like it it amplifies your emotions that you already have towards things it doesn't change it no it doesn't it doesn't change what that is directed towards but it changes your the level of you how much you care about it and like the anger the fervency you have towards that and it's like i think we should all you know feel pretty good at knowing that she goes to bed absolutely miserable choking on black mold every night fucking crazy and i told matas and then i saw on our to-do list which was check our house for mold and i was like am i angry and he goes no i'm just i'm always worried about mold and i was like okay well i had i'd never heard of any of this and i would have thought of me of all people would have
Starting point is 00:50:31 yeah because like there's so many things to hate her for and just adding to the list would be great and you're just now hearing about it and watching and like she does it has the same setup of where her computer is over all these years so people have like literal documenting of the mold growing on all of the walls and like that's how you know that people are like well she's new much like this to me like that is I think that is that is like peak white woman with money behavior is like living in like a musty like moth eaten sweaters and like a stink like just like it she's a she it's like a damp shut-in in this nasty home because if I had that much money I would have people that came in and cleaned like they would be living there with me cleaning every day and
Starting point is 00:51:19 they would know because they wouldn't want to live in that and they'd be like hey there's mold but she doesn't even she has nobody must step foot in there besides her i don't even know if she leaves it i know it feels like a horror movie thank you for sharing that you're welcome it makes me feel really good knowing that this is what she's what she's suffering with the end my turn and my pick is the k-pop group kiss of life yeah first i heard of them yeah first i've heard of them what an intro uh-huh uh so there's this rising girl group kiss of life that has come under fire recently because they're this article says accused but we saw it with our actual eyes they're mimicking black american culture that is both offensive and disrespectful and this isn't
Starting point is 00:52:12 an isolated incident in the K-pop industry, there's a lot of appropriating Black culture. And K-pop clearly is heavily influenced by Black Americans because they're singing R&B, they're dancing. A lot of them are doing the exact dances of R&B stars in their videos. And I think a lot of them are very talented, but a lot of them don't give credit to where what has and i won't even say influence some of them are directly copying and giving absolutely no credit and so um kiss of life got on a live stream and it was one of members birthdays and the group itself has quota has like adopted a quote-unquote old school hip pop vibe and as part of this birthday celebration they were wearing some of them had cornrows
Starting point is 00:53:12 they had on gold chains they were also doing like stereotypical mannerisms and saying words that are associated with black american rappers one of the members whose name is bell wanted to be referred to as the little taco bell during this uh and i don't even know what that was like i don't know what you're trying to insinuate in any type of way like it doesn't that doesn't even make sense no we're we're being offensive and also there's not a strong clear through line yes and then their agency s2 entertainment made this handwritten apology and there was even more backlash because the it wasn't really an apology as many apologies go it was just vague in nature they said that they were being culturally insensitive but they failed to directly
Starting point is 00:54:13 address the black community in this and then there was one actual like black k-pop idol is what they they're called um in the group black swan and they pointed out and stated if you want to apologize to us black people make sure you actually address us and you know and there's a lot of uh k-pop groups that have been embroidered in a lot of controversy there's been some that even use the n-word because again they're just copying and have no reference to what they are they think that they're honoring so but since this is but are they wrong and i'm just pointing at one group then that's all i'll talk about for now but it was ridiculous they looked so dumb yeah it i had secondhand like embarrassment and i don't even know who these
Starting point is 00:55:06 people are i mean and it was but it was just it was like it wasn't a good feat like no what is that thing there were no decorations like and there's also and this was somebody's birthday It looked like a shitty birthday. And like, what is this? I love a theme. I love a dress code. And it's like, you picked to do something offensive and then you did it like incredibly half-assed
Starting point is 00:55:30 and like, there's no decoration. It could have been like a rapper. This is like a way to do it where you're honoring someone. It could have been like, let's dress up as our favorite female rappers. And then they come dressed up as like Dochi or megan or uh glow like but in a tasteful way of doing it women like women entertainers women of hip-hop or it could be like 90s right 90s r&b like there are there are so many and like
Starting point is 00:56:02 i can't imagine sacrificing your birthday party theme to be like well let's get every stereotype there is and that's what we're doing like you could have had you could have had like a a fun party sparkle themed party yeah and there could have been decorate like this is the least fleshed out fit it was it was offensive to objectively offensive intentionally at the expense of the quality of the party right and you're just mocking people too you just like all of this sucks there's a there's nothing if i went to a party like that i'd be like where's the where's the fun where's the fun you wanted so badly to make an offensive joke that you said i'm sacrificing the quality of the party i'm zachary but we're not doing that we're not doing any of that
Starting point is 00:56:45 and i go for couldn't couldn't you just had an offensive tweet like right you'd make a whole a whole party for it and then live stream and film and also like with their management i don't believe that they did this on their own anyway because of the way that k-pop groups are set up they had to have already been okayed by their managers to do this also the idea that everyone in a k-pop group those are the only friends that they have the only people they spend time with the only people they're going to spend their birthday with not their families just just that multi photo op yep and like a lot of people in like western media a lot of i will say a lot of white specifically like white k-pop fans in the united states will talk about like how the you know we
Starting point is 00:57:31 don't you know this is why like why they're doing pop stars better than we can because you know we used to have mickey mouse club we used to have this a grueling training process for pop stars we used it used to turn out britney spears granular like all of these people and like we don't have that anymore and that's why like i can only respect k-pop and i'm like okay i don't know that anyone who went through the mickey mouse club is going to be like yeah that was a very healthy environment for a young entertainer and also like the psychological like people who've gotten out of k-pop groups or even just like have their lives have ended while they have so it's like very explicitly like oh this is very much big brother big sister mom dad everybody's
Starting point is 00:58:08 it is like you it is so all-encompassing and like to praise it as like this is what everyone should be doing those that weirdo man that founded NSYNC Backstreet Boys O-Town and there's others that didn't really pop but that man stole all their money and was abusive towards them yeah like to romanticize it and then at this and they like sing the praises of the of the people who are putting these groups together and representing them but then also using them to like distance from like well they didn't know like you know their management just set this up and i was like but you're kissing the ground that they walk on because like what and i literally looked it up because I don't listen to much K-pop.
Starting point is 00:58:50 But if a song comes on that I'm like, oh, I'll like write down just with anything. But in general, it's not like in a lot of the media that I consume naturally. But the one song that I had always had on a playlist was by Blackpink called Ice Cream. And I was looking it up when you're talking and I was like, I would bet my money
Starting point is 00:59:06 I'm going to know some of the songwriters. Victoria Monet is on it. Yeah. Like, there is a very clear style. And I think if anyone's even denying that, it's ridiculous and like like you said it's management infused or uh directed fandom so like i'm not saying that i don't believe that any of these women or i don't mean any of these women in this group i think these this group regardless about how your management should
Starting point is 00:59:32 have told you this but like you shouldn't have done this point blank but like to feel that this comes across as a very natural like oh i'm a huge fan of this i think you'd have had a better fucking theme yeah i think you would have had a better i think that would have been actually appreciated instead of appropriating then there would be a better thing and you have had a problem how your other band like your other the other members of this group interpreted at this thing because it would mean something to you right so yeah yeah fuck them fuck them fuck them all right so that's the end of our episode how you feeling megan i'm good have i ever told you at that los angeles subreddit where someone posted saying like hey i'm uh i'm traveling
Starting point is 01:00:12 coming from i forget somewhere uh actually no i think they were in la it was like where can i meet cute boys who look like jungkook and like who look like the guys from bts like any any places where you can tell me we're like hot young korean men hanging out and all of these people in the process going no no and everyone's kind of like don't tell her this is this is really creepy and then someone responded like three months later and then it got like brought up again on the subreddit being like oh my god i would love to meet you everyone's like stop no no you're on you're unfamiliar what they're trying to do and now it's an ongoing joke in the ass los angeles subreddit where someone goes hey i'm looking to meet uh big bosomed milfs in downtown l.a
Starting point is 01:00:49 can anyone tell me how far to go to be like hey i'm looking to meet friendly seagulls with a with a gaggle of talking snow leopards can someone give me more i was like oh but i remind yeah the the obsession so fucking weird so weird and they're so talented but like and let's not be offensive yeah and then they'll also get more talented if you stop like forgiving them for doing horrible shit and then also praising them for like doing like do you know what i mean like yeah have higher standards and they will actually you will enjoy them a lot more all right um join us tomorrow or see you next tuesday that's where you get to vote on this episode but you're what you'll hear tomorrow will be last week's episode wednesday that's where
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Starting point is 01:02:26 This is a Sister Sign production hosted by me, Megan Rinks. And me, Melissa D. Montz, plus Diamond Imprint Productions. Post-production by Coco Lorenz. Production assistance by Melanie D. Watson. And music by Ryan Hunter and Giacomo Picasso.

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