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Episode Date: September 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello! Hi! Welcome to a brand new episode of But Am I Wrong? we're not wrong and that's why i made the podcast because we just have so many correct opinions and so many correct takes all of the time and we thought it's our duty to share that with the world and hey maybe if we're not wrong you'll catch us on an off day put it in the put it in the history books they were wrong one time well don't ask me to do math i know on record i was wrong but i was lying on purpose which is right so therefore you you already knew that you were lying and then people didn't know you were lying therefore you were right and they were wrong yeah exactly exactly that's how it works those are just the rules of feminism so uh we will explain
Starting point is 00:01:13 the each of the segments on the podcast before we get into them but what you need to know is we want you to participate so you can participate by voting on who you think was wrong in each segment over on our instagram stories you can also participate by writing in for our written in user segments you can also nominate people all of those kinds of things uh but when you write in but when you vote also write why you voted the way you did tell us we would love to hear and read those on our see you next tuesday episode so shall we get into our first segment we shall the first segment is but am i wrong where we pitch to the other person and to you the audience about a circumstance a situation in our lives that we want to know if we're in the wrong about
Starting point is 00:02:04 or it could also be a rant or a hot take so what do you got i have a combination of a rant and a hot take i wrote a letter okay dear southern white racist people my ancestors were left a plantation by their enslaver who's also their grandfather slash father a man who in depth seemed to make final gesture to his children. But the white people didn't like the idea of Black people owning land, so they ran them off. This wasn't a unique story. It was a blueprint. You wanted us gone, but you couldn't stand it when we tried to go. Fast forward to today. There's a group of people in Arkansas building a whites-only community, and I've read about it. They called it return to the land they say it's about preserving western culture about protecting their families
Starting point is 00:03:08 they're using innocuous language but the article lays out that it really is a project rooted in white supremacy their leader praises hitler the kkk and are connected to neo-nazis it's a throwback a modern attempt at an old idea. And honestly, I don't care about it. Please, I'm begging you, segregate yourselves. Build your 160 acre compound, raise your own children in your own schools, and live as far away from me as possible. I would be relieved. I would applaud it. It would mean I wouldn't have to deal with your racism, your microaggressions, or your threats. You see, the assumption was and has always been that we Black people would care, that we would be devastated by your attempt at separation. On the contrary, if you had done this, if you had just
Starting point is 00:04:09 built your own worlds and left us alone, history would be very different. But that's the thing, you wouldn't, you can't. You can't just separate and leave us alone because your entire identity, your supposed heritage, has always been built on our oppression and our labor. So when Black people try to do what you're doing now, when we built our own communities, our own thriving towns, our own success stories, you came and you burned them down. You didn't just stand by, you interfered, you massacred us. Think about the Rosewood Massacre in 1923, a prosperous Black town in Florida with homes, businesses, and thriving communities. All of it was destroyed by a mob of white supremacists who murdered its residents. Or the Tulsa Massacre of 1921, Greenwood, Oklahoma, was known as Black
Starting point is 00:05:01 Wall Street, a vibrant, wealthy, self-sufficient Black community. In 24 hours, it was leveled by white moms, and hundreds were killed. My own family's experience is a microcosm of this history when my ancestors tried to claim the land that was legally theirs they were run off not because they couldn't survive on their own but because their existence as free land-owning black people challenged the entire racist system so when people like eric orwell the founder of return to land say that they want to be left alone to preserve their culture i just don't believe them the history is too clear. Your actions have always proven your words to be a lie. The freedom of association you claim for yourselves is freedom you have violently denied
Starting point is 00:05:50 us for centuries. If you really wanted to be separated, if you really wanted to build your own lives and be free of us, you could have done that. You should have done that, but you didn't, and you never will, because what you project isn't about separation. It's about control. It's about maintaining a hierarchy where you are at the top and everyone else is beneath you. So go ahead, build your towns. The rest of us will continue to build a world where all people can thrive and a world not based on exclusion. The difference is that our project is born out of resilience and yours is born out of fear.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And we've already shown that we can build something beautiful on our own. We'll continue to do so without you. but what i do care about is the cracker being taken out of crackle barrel for me this segue is beautiful like you i was gonna say you can't write this but clearly you can clearly you can and you did write this oh i care about the cracker being taken out of cracker barrel for me crackle barrel isn't just a restaurant it's a feeling it's a memory it's a taste of home the last time i was back home in
Starting point is 00:07:06 arkansas my family and i went after church and when we walked in it was packed just the way it should be but the line was long which meant we got to sit in those rocking chairs on the front porch and play checkers on an oversized quilt it's a tradition i'm sorry are you being serious is that what fucking crackerbill has oh my god okay it's part of the experience this is a brand new information and then when you finally get inside you get to wander through the old country store and it is legit callback looking at all the kitschy things you'll never actually buy but still have to look at the knickknacks and the nostalgic gifts but you always end up with a bag of that old-fashioned taffy every single time and then when gas station like why can you
Starting point is 00:08:01 buy taffy to me that's like going to denny's and being like could i also get some taffy no you could buy so much at this store like the most tacky gifts oh my gosh and then when you get to your table you're hopefully lit by a fireplace that no matter what time of year it is it is burning and you get to enjoy your meal while you play that tic-tac-toe game with little golf tees that stick out of the wooden table this is not a real place the food is good i mean where else can you go to get chicken and dumplings on the menu they also have incredible biscuits with apple jam or apple butter and beignets and what really makes the meal is every guilty white passerby that stops and tells me that i'm pretty
Starting point is 00:08:56 now i really gotta go it's a whole vibe i wonder why you love this a feeling of coziness and community that you just don't find anywhere else. But now I've seen pictures and read articles and I'm seeing that the new Cracker Barrel design is horrendous. It's a betrayal of everything that makes this place special. They call it modernizing and freshening up. But what they're really doing is taking away the character that makes it so unique. One article that I read said that they're decluttering the interiors, removing all the country thing trinkets and line walls they've gone for a brighter more open concept shifting away from the dark woods that gave it this warmth they're even dropping the barrel
Starting point is 00:09:48 and the man from the logo the very thing that makes it recognizable so like i said they're taking the crack a marketing professor even said the new logo makes the brand new the brand stand out less and risk diluting the brand's uniqueness. And I couldn't agree more. The CEO, Julie Fells Massino, says that it's all part of a $700 million plan to shake off its stodgy image and lure in new diners. But it's always packed. She also claims that the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive and enthusiastic. But I have to ask, who are these people? Because social media is telling a very different story videos of the redesign have gone viral on tiktok and from my end all by black people with comments saying the nostalgia is gone and i don't want another bland box store
Starting point is 00:10:46 type restaurant one person even wrote can we please go back to the original work the nostalgia is gone but i'm sure the conservative on the conservative end they're probably blaming the woke left for this, but this is not what we want. Cracker Barrel is a place where you're not just a customer, you're a guest, and you feel it the moment you walk in. The cozy, the clutter, the slightly dark interior, the old-timey country store, the fireplace, the rocking chairs, all of it works together to create a feeling that is completely and totally unique. And now that they want to strip it away what exactly does it bring a crowd that wants bland sanitized food in a soulless modern space we already have plenty of those i don't want my cracker barrel to look like every
Starting point is 00:11:36 other restaurant chain i want it to be what it is has always been a home away from home not my home but somebody's home somebody's border home but you keep calling it cluttered as a restaurant to is objectively crazy like that has to be a health code violation no it's not that it's because it there's just like the tables are close together so much stuff the tables are close together and it's just like the walls are filled with photos that's so overstimulating um the company might say that the numbers are working but they're missing the point the value of cracker barrel isn't just in the cell it's in the soul it's in the cozy chaotic and kind-hearted atmosphere that has made it a favorite for decades so i'm asking them in the name of the biscuits and oversized
Starting point is 00:12:30 quotes and every grandmother who has ever told me how pretty i am put the crackers back the problem as i see it is that so many people are confusing these two ideas the dangerous destructive project of so-called heritage built on hate and the beautiful, simple nostalgia of a place like Cracker Barrel. The first is a threat to the foundations of our society, a violent lie that must be exposed. The second is a comfort, a piece of our lives that a corporation is destroying. At the end of the day, do I really care about Cracker Barrel? No. What I care about is the way we confuse heritage with hate, nostalgia with nationalism, and comfort with control. A restaurant can strip away its rocking chairs and lose nothing more than atmosphere. A society that strips away
Starting point is 00:13:21 humanity loses everything. So if you want to retreat into compounds and call it culture, go ahead. Just know the rest of us are building something bigger, warmer, and more real. something worse sitting down for even without the barrel sincerely melissa demonts the coastal elite of 13 years but a southern bill for eternity i think we found your new bio that was a ride i as a coastal elite of my entire life the way that you have described cracker barrel um has actually like blown the ceiling off for me because like i thought this was just a restaurant i didn't i didn't understand the interactive level i didn't understand i didn't really understand any of it i will say when i heard that people were getting upset
Starting point is 00:14:15 about like removing stuff and i was like is it because like white people are offended by the term cracker like was that what was going on it's still being called crack when they were like this is going like you know they're revamping to be more palatable and i was like and also like i don't really think the people who run cracker barrel are like yeah like we're about like like i'm not thinking they're like we love gay pride and we are super anti like that's like the theme of this has always been i didn't think that corporate was like hey you know our audience really wants this let's let's switch this back up so i was like ah so i had to assume that when they were like they're making changes and i was like oh they're catering
Starting point is 00:15:01 to the white people who are like i don't like being called a cracker and i was like okay but no that's not it no wow i sent you a few images i can't believe that there's rock there's rocking chairs this sounds like a warner brothers set oh wait till i show you the old country story that you have to walk through what the fuck is this this looks like a what is that bait and tackle store like one of those horror stores oh my god i'm surprised they don't have the employees wearing like military uniforms or like something like really wild like i'm surprised he's not like wow they just have regular aprons this and yet they have the mcdonald's floor this is so confusing this is so crowded do you see the pictures of the store i just think you
Starting point is 00:15:53 the store yeah oh my god what the fuck you have to walk through that to even get to the restaurant this is like a hudson news this is insane it's like you put a hudson news in a bass pro shop yeah that's a good a good characterization why are there so many things hanging from the ceiling yeah there's no question by the way literally farm equipment that looks so deeply dangerous that's like spiky hanging from the ceiling do they have those like nasty ass little like puffy peanut candies that look like peanuts that look like styrofoam that like nobody eats i know these candies are old as fuck too they don't even make like i just know that these this shit is stale they have not restocked some of these they have tate's cookies what the fuck
Starting point is 00:16:48 is this place good question a whole selection of soy is that soy sauce or beer or soda probably soda what the fuck is this oh my god are these honey sticks no they're also uh they do sell honey sticks but those are um yeah that puffy those puffy peanuts are in the picture that i sent you the uh one that says nostalgia candy it's on the right there yeah i knew they i knew they'd be there and then they have this book on the side that says this book is literally just pictures of animals silently judging you what the fuck is this place i am like how do you ask he has to have been they're in atlanta right he was in atlanta he 100 100 went i have to say the sheer number of rocking chairs on didn't know a restaurant could have a front porch the front
Starting point is 00:17:49 porch of this restaurant is so deeply sinister like i don't know why especially because in this one they're all empty but like that is so creepy and now i see the oversized checkers yeah i gotta to go we got i got i gotta get to when you go to when i go to arkansas yeah you can go i will go where's our closest cracker barrel 48 miles away is our closest that's not that far no it's not at all camarillo between fontana and san bernardino it's in the renaissance marketplace what the fuck is that it's in rialto i've never heard of one in camarillo too camera by the outlets that's what it says oh that's actually quite easy for us to get to i love those outlets wait i'm shall we take a little yeah we're taking we're taking a trip we are it's in the outlet
Starting point is 00:18:45 melissa we're going time to go to cracker barrel and le crusade i don't know if you're gonna get the same experience because you're not in the south but i have an imagination yeah but you can you can see all the if they haven't sanitized the store yet you can see everything that i'm talking about well i bet we've already had the soft rollout of like woke cracker barrel it's just covered in pride flags like it's just it's the gayest cracker barrel you've ever seen you know like yeah i have so many goddamn fucking questions please ask them i'm happy to answer like how do you think the um the uh racist commune cult is gonna how do you think are they do you think they're gonna be sad without cracker barrel or do you think they're gonna
Starting point is 00:19:38 have their own they're gonna have their own they're like we didn't get we don't have a seat at the table so we built our own cracker barrel also i have to say i forget what the phrase is is it like like shooting ducks in a pond fishing well you don't know how long i spent while you were talking trying to think of what that phrase was and i literally landed on ducks in a pond i think that's right no fishing to me i'm like perfect you're all in this one area what if kaboom oh no oh no use it out again like you did that i can do that too like it's just to me i'm and also the ins like i'm like the incest there everything they love everything they love i don't none of them are handy enough to like you know figure out electricity or actually
Starting point is 00:20:35 i think they will be i think they will be yeah yeah yeah a lot of these people are blue collar people they they know how to do that type of thing but i also think that you know these are people that marry their second cousins first cousins you're being so generous i know i'm gonna go sick i'm gonna go second yeah or right now but their kids they're marrying their first cousins yeah because it's getting smaller and smaller and i have to say that's the gene pool i'm stuck with yuck yuck my other question the shape of the cracker barrel logo is it an embryo is it a it looks like it has a nose i'm actually not sure what that is okay because is there a meaning of cracker like is that like a besides the restaurant
Starting point is 00:21:29 as far as i know no okay because i wondered if the barrel is the barrel and the bean is the is it crap like so it was founded in 1969 for by dan evans a representative for shell oil who developed the restaurant and gift store concept initially as a plan to improve gasoline sales so you were right as far as it like being a service station that's initially that's what it looks like it has to be it looks like a rest stop on like on the side of the road i'm sorry this happened in 1969 so like people are going to woodstock and he said actually what we need is a gas station where you eat wow here's a story for you oh multiple origin stories yeah multiple origin stories of the name exists from the 1760s onward scott's irish settlers
Starting point is 00:22:29 on the southern back country were called crackers oh hey hey what's up barrels of soda crackers could be found for sale in small town stores across american south in the early 1900s people would stand around the barrels chatting and catching up similar in purpose to contemporary water coolers huh oh and it's on there's a dictionary now but too especially of a philosophy plain simple and unsophisticated and you know what as you sent me the interior plain not what i would say simple no unsophisticated i don't know if i would go there but i would say i'm I would think Osha has a couple questions about the layout. I do think it is not the most thought out,
Starting point is 00:23:22 which to me has an air of down-home country for you. It's like you're eating in your hoarder grandma's house who also happens to work for Enron. This is so wild. It says the man on a local, his name is Uncle Herschel. Yeah, I was going to ask, is that a real man? colloquially known as old timer an illustration of a man resembling company founders dave evans real life uncle herschel mccartney so do they think that he's offended that he's next to the
Starting point is 00:23:58 word cracker and they're like we must remove because they took him away not just the barrel yeah now i'm just thinking about him we're just crap now we're just cracker then but he is that's what i'm saying it's not even anything you know i'm just like okay and this whole thing like trying to frame it as like a dei thing and i go it's quite literally called cracker barrel and you removing any name of like or association with whatever that is this is an old white man and cracker for for white people so i'm just like this is not this is this is not what they think it is yeah and i'm not gonna lie the company has been racist oh my god i'm shocked right and uh homophobic and i know that the woman i don't i guess taking
Starting point is 00:24:50 the pictures down the lady's like you know what i saw what she's like i saw what the ceo did to red lobster turning it around i'm gonna follow suit we need to get more blacks in here and i know the way to do it remove the cracker no wrong wrong you're going about this the wrong way i am just so is if i'm not mistaken cracker barrel is something you go to after church with your family waffle house is where you go late night college with your friends yes okay but would you say similar food no no no waffle house is breakfast food oh i fully thought cracker barrel is breakfast it has breakfast on the menu but like but you know they have meatloaf and okay comfort food stuff okay okay and waffle house i
Starting point is 00:25:56 assume waffle house has an all-day menu because i saw someone get a bond at waffle house what waffle house were they at somewhere and the people there with me like did what the fuck did you just order at waffle house that reminded me of the snl sketch about ordering lobster to diner yeah i've never seen a bami on a menu maybe i'm maybe i'm mistaking but it was like a it was like a not a sandwich i would have been like okay it wasn't like a patty melt or tuna melt you know they have patty melts and yeah of course but it's mostly breakfast i i guess i want to know waffle house does very well like waffle house does well like bottom line wise but also like cultural relevance wise like people who don't live in the south people i mean from the u.s like
Starting point is 00:26:45 no Waffle House like it gets name checked and things like it's like a it's a cultural aspect that I'm like Cracker Barrel was that not the pivot to being like we like dinner and a show like what if there's something like that pivot to being like more like this versus who are they trying to be you said like Red Lobster you think I think just now because the new CEO of Red Lobster is Black and they their sales have gone up they're like we need to get Black people in here oh because i was like i can't even envision i'm like what so like who are you trying to like what's your i don't understand i don't know because it sounds like such a weirdly unique restaurant that i'm like yeah if you're making a full pivot are you trying to be panera like what are you trying to
Starting point is 00:27:26 do the food isn't changing it's just the look of it so i just feel like half the reason you go is the is the look of is the vibe and the look of it yeah she doesn't understand you know not at all maybe she should work at Panera let's see what her work history is if you tell me IHOP I'll be devastated because you know I love IHOP a board member for Vivid Seeds
Starting point is 00:27:51 a board member for Cole Haan a board member for Physician One Urgent Care president of Taco Bell for a while 2020 to 2023 but she worked at Taco Bell since 2019 she was the svp of mattel ceo of sprinkles
Starting point is 00:28:17 cupcake star yeah wow she was the cross country at starbucks also was an assistant buyer seems like that's where she got her start at well she started as an executive training program at macy's in 1993 then was an assistant buyer for j crew in 1995 to her oh and she also worked in marketing at godiva huh an interesting uh track record yeah but i wouldn't say here's who we need to helm cracker cracker barrel into this no um well i loved that that segue will go down in history that was truly i was so fucking not prepared thank you so much that was beautiful i had tears all night i said i yeah i said i all right well we're gonna take a break when we get back We'll get to Megan's.
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Starting point is 00:31:33 of, hey, maybe I shouldn't be here? Yeah. Well, not the people of Burning Man who claim to be so deeply in touch with the earth with their spirituality with mystic signs are you not getting the big signs of mother nature saying get the fuck out of my house and if we want to get like less woo-woo and less spiritual there's a reason why capitalism has not built multi-story high rise apartments in that big, wide open space. If you look at a big, wide open space, specifically in the state of California, and you go, huh, this feels like it has a lot of potential. No, it doesn't. Somebody's already had that thought. Somebody's tried to figure it out and somebody's gone, oh, that fundamentally will not work. So the idea that building a city
Starting point is 00:32:31 in the course of 48 hours just to be taken down and burned after a the fumes horrible stop that don't do that but also if you think you can bill the city in a weekend of course the wind's gonna come knock that down of course the sand and i recently found out that specifically the like the sand the dirt the clay that they have that is like all on the ground that they're on the playa it has so much salt and clay in it that the water that you have to use to wipe yourself and the showers that you have allotted for like what seven seconds are filled with vinegar so everybody smells like vinegar because it's the only thing that cuts through that disgusting that is so nasty isn't that the grossest thing you've ever heard people aren't even
Starting point is 00:33:24 showering no and then by the way you're not showering you also smell like vinegar everything is vinegar it is just so gross and the fact that like they keep their gray water from the showers like out on like a big open thing to be like oh it'll evaporate and i watched a video guy goes yeah it never evaporates we just like have to figure out how to dump it and all they do is then just bring it to the fucking next town over and just litter everything and completely dispose of everything there but the elements are begging people to stop going to burning man and this idea that this is like this otherworldly cosmic kind of thing of like oh you'll never understand like it changes you as a person really changes you as a person because all of you go back to your
Starting point is 00:34:03 fucking tech jobs ai and you go and then sell your app to sell government data like to sell our data to the government being like it changed me i understand empathy do you do you you all are like bajillionaires who work in tech and do all this caught like pretending to be like oh poor under all of lovingness and like we're all together in this no you're on ecstasy and you're horny you didn't understand empathy you didn't figure any of that out you rented a a rv for like fifty thousand dollars you spent all this money like it is so fucking wild and then beyond that people bring their kids to burning man there is like rampant sexual abuse obviously sexual abuse that happens but also there is so they're like body cam footage of it they don't have real police
Starting point is 00:34:53 there they have like their own like our own governing body here who's here who's dealing with all of this but there's like a footage of this of people being sexually abused and them trying to report it and then being like don't report it to the police don't just discouraging people okay um there's also people die there's death and then this year guess what murder there's motherfucking murder there was one year where someone ran into the burning man like a i don't know if it was an intentional self-immolation like as a stance to that because i'm pretty sure self-immolation has to have a political or uh social it has it's it's a it's a cause-driven thing not necessarily a drug-driven thing as the primary factor i don't know about
Starting point is 00:35:37 this one i don't know if it was just here i'm on a lot of drugs and i see the light now i'm running fucking to to fire or whatever um but now there was a person who was found in a pool of blood and guess what they just dismissed everyone i'm burning man too many people go home go home the fuck the food disgusting the fact that i literally watched the whole time to being like let's go get pancakes at burning man and it's just dick pancakes in the desert and i'm like you're eating you've got pasties on you've got furry boots on like you're going to a rave the weather is atrocious and they get this thing called um something lung something lung where it like is literally leading to like emphysema like not just like oh you're getting sick after going to this but it's like
Starting point is 00:36:21 no no it's like long-term effects on your cardiovascular system specific and like your lungs like the fuck and you're paying all of this money to go do this all of this money because it changes you as a person you know you can do lsd at home just get like get one of your little like buy a lava lamp and like trip balls at your fucking house you don't need to do this to the desert you don't need to like fucking absolutely destroy the neighboring towns and cities and you don't need to bring your goddamn fucking kids no yeah um they tried to do something similar like they might be doing it but something similar like this in arkansas and i had got invited and i was like absolutely not no thank you like on paper there's no way that anyone
Starting point is 00:37:14 thinks like yeah this sounds like this is gonna be wonderful and safe and and great like there's also like people who like go there to like preach and i was like doesn't counterintuitive to like pay all this money to go there and then be like oh yay the orgy tent finally broke down because of the winds and i'm like is it those same people that stand outside like concerts and loki i kind of think that would be better at least in outside the gates with your signs that you already have you're spending thousands of dollars to get in there in there like they're doing it because those people are counting on getting hit by something and suing no they're like enjoying burning man and i was like okay so i just think this is like and if someone wants to be oh and
Starting point is 00:38:06 like this whole thing of being like no it's like an anti-capitalist society too much fucking money that people who run burning man make do you know how much it costs do you also like know what little thing you're getting for this like astronomical cost and guess what everyone's like you know if it's not just rich people you can work for it yeah you know you can go and get a discounted ticket if you are working to the bone and serving those goddamn fucking rich people who can just pay a fee to get out of the community helping you just pay a fee and then it goes hey poors we'll just give you the money then you work to the bone you sleep in a goddamn fucking tent that like is thrashing you all around like you need a stronger sense of your mortality my god and if anyone wants
Starting point is 00:38:48 to make you just don't understand no i actually really understand i deeply understand i didn't even know burning man was like a thing that other people went to outside of where i grew up like this is like so this is like so where i grew i'm like so deeply fucking familiar with this and it's just crazy it's just crazy to me like stop like go to a like i don't like raves but like go to a rave like no but there's not gonna be a burning bush at the rave oh my god get into arson like i don't care like it's just so fucking weird to me that like and the whole thing is like it's all about how everything's temporary we build these things and then and then we just destroy them and i go what good message is that like look at all these things
Starting point is 00:39:35 i can do look at all this energy that i have to build and these resources that i have now let me just like quite literally break it apart burn it and shit on it how about you like find the cure for cancer like how about you solve world hunger or at least again do all of this weird fucking shit in your house in your multi-million dollar mansion or everyone do this year round and you form your own community and leave the rest of us the fuck alone so there you go so that is like a cult and that is in fact uh there is not a not i wouldn't say a pipeline to that cult that was in marines and i'm and that's the same thing yeah same as these white people that are self-segregating themselves no it's this is the other spectrum of those people yeah as as someone who uh didn't
Starting point is 00:40:26 necessarily grow i didn't grow up on a commune that was not for lack of trying from people like that like this to me i'm like yeah i know where this goes i know where this goes uh sin and on that was that was our cult yeah all right uh we're gonna take a break when we get back we'll get into but our euro when west chat first took flight in 1996 the vibes were a bit different people thought denim on denim was peak fashion inline skates were everywhere and two out of three women rocked the rachel while those things stayed in the 90s one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when west jet welcomes you on board here's to west jetting since 96 travel back in time with us
Starting point is 00:41:19 and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years we're back it's time for but are you wrong where we read your submissions for situations that you want to know if you're in the wrong about or your hot takes or your rants send them to but am I wrong pot at gmail.com or fill out our form or send us a dm for all of those you have to any form that you do it under 300 words give us all the info it is anonymous um give us all the anonymous info all right shall we get into the first one we shall i'm 32 she her i've been with my boyfriend for about a year and a half and the one thing i struggle with is his ex who he was together with for five years they broke up two years ago because she cheated on him but he still
Starting point is 00:42:21 follows her on instagram she occasionally messages him and she even chats with his mom sometimes when i bring it up he tells me he doesn't like cutting people off and just wants to keep things civil i get that he's a nice guy but i don't understand why he'd want to stay connected to her the bigger issue though is me i catch myself comparing myself to her constantly i'll check her instagram even though i know i shouldn't and it always makes me feel less than she cheated and yet she looks like she's moved on effort effortlessly while i'm left spiraling about whether i measure up my self-esteem isn't great and her presence in his orbit makes it harder so here's my real question am i wrong for wanting him to unfollow her to unfollow her or is the problem really me
Starting point is 00:43:12 and my own insecurities i don't want to be controlling but i also can't stop myself from going down the comparison rabbit hole i mean you're not wrong for wanting him to unfollow her but like you're also like not wrong for like wanting your like middle school bully to have like a bus dropped on them like doesn't mean that those things are gonna happen or that like those things should happen or those things are like the ethically correct thing to happen i think if it's like a if that's like well i need him to unfollow her that won't make you any less insecure like at all and do i think it's like odd that he is like still comfortable with him with her in his like orbit or whatever i'd be also pretty annoyed if like my parent like was like still like talking
Starting point is 00:44:00 her and being like this person cheated on me like I would probably have a little more animosity um but that's me and I'm you know I I'm I can be petty like that so I don't think we have to like align the same way that we would handle everything as like our partner but I ultimately like with love I do think this is more of a you problem yeah I agree I am of the mindset keep your enemies close because what was this girl's personality like was she someone who's a little bit scary so you want to know what she's doing at all times and make sure that you're still on the same page as far as like you know i broke things off with you but we're going to keep things civil also like how often is she talking to a mom like is it just like a hey just saying hi
Starting point is 00:44:53 like something like that or is it like they're getting dinner on Sundays that's two different things do you not have a relationship with his mom like do they have a closer relationship than you right and they were together for five years five years that's a long time yeah I just kind of I I like to see what people are doing at all times just to make sure that I'm safe so I wouldn't have a problem with this but i remember that he is not with her he's with you they're not together he broke things off because she cheated on him yeah so just don't cheat on him yeah like if he wanted to be with her he probably still could be but he's with you yeah like if all of these positive traits that you view is like well i don't really compare to her like if those things all
Starting point is 00:45:47 mattered so much to him he would have looked past the cheating but he didn't and so like to me i'm like the comparison is that like well one of you cheated on me and one of you didn't and so like you're you are winning there so like i i think that that's why i think it is like an insecurity of you thing because like objectively pro con list positive traits negative traits you have more positive traits than her point blank and like you thinking not and like were you like weighing the cheating thing versus like i don't know however other aspects of the things that you're jealous of of her or you're comparing yourself to you're those are not the same weight those are like so like wildly different so that's what i'm saying like it is very much you because
Starting point is 00:46:29 like you should objectively be able to like take a step back if this was not your life and be like no you you beyond measure like you far like far surpass who she was and what she was like yeah and then also like you've been together with him for a year and a half and he's not hiding this this is something that you're well aware of um and also you're aware that his mom still communicates with her so i i think you're you're fine like know that you won not that it's a competition but like if it makes you feel better it makes you feel better and helps your self-esteem you won he won you yeah he I'm sure he thinks he won and he knows he won that he's like oh I lucked out like not that oh I wish this thing hadn't happened with this person and all that it
Starting point is 00:47:23 was like no I would have never ended up with who I'm with now and that's like a positive thing but I also think that like you know if this like continues on for 10 years and they still like talk often and mom goes to coffee with her every week and like hates your guts and like he's okay with that that's an that's that's a separate issue but that's not what you're currently facing right now and i think the fact that you can acknowledge that like you're having like comparison and insecurity issues is because like you know that that is what this is stemming from and i promise you that like as soon as you stop looking she stops existing yep like she's not she's not in your orbit and even if she was this like supreme evil villain who's like trying to get under your
Starting point is 00:48:12 skin you then are you gonna blow up your relationship to have her quote-unquote win even though they're not even together and he's not interested in being with you i mean like it's you're gonna blow up a good thing that you have because someone who did a bad thing is still stuck in your head and not his i think our final verdict is you're wrong yeah with love yep with love you are wrong but i don't think it's a permanent state right all right next one i-30 she her started dating this guy and he is basically a walking green flag he's 29 makes a lot of i'm already skeptical he's 29 makes a lot of money treats people with respect calls his grandma every Sunday and even planned a drive-in movie date with snacks and
Starting point is 00:49:00 blankets just because I mentioned I'd never been he's literally everything people say that you should want in a partner but when he kissed me I got the ick dude relatable I got the ick so hard it felt like I was kissing my crypto obsessed cousin at Thanksgiving there were no sparks no butterflies nothing and I cannot figure out if that is on him or on me the truth is I have a history of only being into men who are absolute chaos yeah if he is emotionally unavailable bad texting or drinks too much suddenly i am swooning my therapist says maybe i'm not ready to date but i feel like i just don't don't know how to like the healthy option we have so much in common that it almost feels like dating a mirror same coffee order same suburban upbringing both aquarians oh
Starting point is 00:49:41 dump him i hate male aquarius maybe that's why i'm turned off but part of me feels guilty because there's literally nothing wrong with him am i wrong for not feeling it with a guy who checks every box should i push through and see if the spark grows or is it unfair to keep dating him when i already feel like faking a cold sore every time he leans in but you have to get out of there you have to like you have to like fire and you have to like emergency roll out of that car like driving i need you to open the door and like roll out of the car this is an emergency you have to get out this is not your fault he's your cousin yeah that's the thing like from a query for me me aquarius this would be a great guy for me because i don't like arguing with people i don't
Starting point is 00:50:26 like i like people that just yeah are into the same things i am i'm in we go with the flow you can make me heehee and you can make me make the old face we're good like but if i'm kissing somebody and they seem like a cousin to me i'm out not just a cousin a crypto obsessed cousin That's the worst cousin to have. That's the worst. That, like, to me is, like, wet tongue, dry lips. No, wet lips, dry tongue. Where you go, how does this work?
Starting point is 00:50:58 This guy that I kissed and it felt like a pariah. Like, he did this thing. That's what I meant. He felt like a pariah. A pariah also kind of worked. Yeah. He, like, he pursed his lips, but there's a little butthole. But, like, I could feel his teeth.
Starting point is 00:51:16 and there was a sucking motion and it was a sucking and he also tastes like cigarette like it's easier just to learn how to kiss yeah open your mouth relax your lips chill i want to slap across the face relax your fucking face no this to me like he's not perfect like also i will say i would get the ick from this honestly probably from before we even kissed because i don't like someone who like immediately is just like whatever i say goes in a way that i know that like they're just trying to like do it like i want you but yeah i want you to have your own opinion and then i want you to think my opinions better and still let me do what i want to do but like i don't want it to be like a no i like that too and i'm like no i don't want them to like
Starting point is 00:52:04 things because i like them i just want it to be like in the sense of like you and i are on the same page with most things that we never fight about anything and that's how we like our friendship yes that's that's how we like this but like to me I have a red I like that is not a red flag for me in friendships early on it is a red flag for me in dating early on with because I date straight men that I'm like when everything feels like it's going like so well and it's like perfect but like the feelings aren't there for you the feeling I have a hard time with that because I'm like well the the the only way that works is if the feelings are there from both parties and i don't believe that feelings can get there from the other half of it if your feelings
Starting point is 00:52:46 aren't like at least close to being there so then it becomes like a you are just playing out the movies you've seen you're playing out this idea of what you think women want you're playing out this like role of like the male love interest and to me that is like the ultimate motherfucking ick and that's why you're like oh this is exactly what everybody wants that's why he's doing it he's doing it it's not because that's who he is he's doing that because he knows that everyone wants and nobody wants and he's single right okay okay like I just think this like even like the big grand gestures and all of that like I've said it before like you should be with someone how you know someone's also being like earnest and honest in themselves is like they're also like protecting
Starting point is 00:53:25 their own feelings and like their own they're not like putting themselves so wholly out there to a point where it's like oh this feels like reckless because I'm like yeah this isn't about me then this is about you and like we should both be nervous we should both be excited we should both be a little trepidatious we should both be taking those steps like side by side as opposed to like I'm over here I'm obsessed and then I have to get there I think that only makes sense like a slow burn is a friend's thing when you're friends first you've grown up together and like you have these feelings and you're just hoping one day that they realize they have those feelings too but like this to me this reminds me of like i have gone out with guys in like college and like college age
Starting point is 00:54:09 that were very much like this and it was like oh my god they went to an ivy like they went to harvard like they are like so he's showing up with like flowers and i'm like i don't know this man like this is a weird level of like feigned like intimacy and like closeness and like being super personal but like you don't know me at all personally you just think that this is going to resonate with me because like you're like and I have a mom and I go okay like I love women I have a mom it's like no but a bad kiss and this is also kind of why I mean this is ultimately why I say that like I could never do um a dating show because unfortunately for me a kiss doesn't tell me a kiss can be like I can enjoy the kiss and you can pass through to the next round but
Starting point is 00:54:56 unfortunately i will not know how i feel about you until i've had sex with you like if i like a kiss i could then end up not liking i could get the ick from sleeping together even if i didn't get it from kissing but i'm never going from an ick kiss to then sleeping with you because i know for sure that the ick has already happened i don't i don't want to sleep with you that's why i can't go on a reality dating show because i go unfortunately i do have to sleep with you just to figure this out first we'll kiss i'll eliminate then and then i figure out the rest but this is also part of the reason why you like toxic people sometimes is like yes they're unavailable because i've been there that was like very much my type for a long time um is like you
Starting point is 00:55:33 don't actually have to like act on it and like unattainable crushes or whatever but like also sometimes you like those people better and like you actually have chemistry with them there and those people you didn't necessarily like them because they were toxic you really liked this person and they happen to be toxic doesn't always have to be it's only attractive yeah well i mean i just think that there's no there's no reason to think that you won't have you won't feel that strongly about someone just because they're not toxic like that's not a make or break kind of thing in like terms of like how you're gonna feel for them because i think if this guy was toxic by the way there's still a chance he's toxic i don't think it would make you not have the
Starting point is 00:56:13 when you kiss them yeah i will just as an aquarius woman i do just want to put it out there that i do like an aquarius man which one i just want to say that i i did know you've already said you don't you've already said you don't like aquarius men so i just want to put that out men men is plural not man you said yeah no i said i said man i didn't say man yeah and guess what there's an exception to every rule by the way guys we found white michael b jordan melissa found him on her for you page and we will say he's not black michael b jordan yeah we're not entirely sure if this man is is white yeah but he's certainly not black so um i did post it on our patreon page the public one so if you would like i've been periodically just posting
Starting point is 00:57:07 random things so um join our patreon even as a free tier and you can get extras it's so fun i literally was like i showed mods on saying mods went whoa yeah because he was like at first i go i know at first you go now and then you go i still really don't see it but you know the humor is there teehee teehee you have to like do the hand over the certain facial features and i'm like okay i get this i get this i see this but the whole package i think i could date that man and i would i would never click and let someone else edit to me so so if the um person who is with my their own white michael b jordan please confirm or deny if this is him if this is the vibe all right we're gonna take a break when we get back we'll get into but are they wrong
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Starting point is 00:59:38 Mastronardi yeah so I want to talk about a recent event that has sparked some debate about teaching literature and professional responsibility and so a Spanish teacher and let's keep in mind that he's a Spanish teacher at West Valley High School is not as simple as it has been portrayed on online discussions it's not a straightforward case of censorship versus free speech instead it is a nuanced and deeply troubling example of a professional failing to understand his role and his audience. So Matthew stated intention was to respect authorial intent and to have a teachable moment. He claims his actions were about confronting history rather than erasing it. while these phrases seem noble they are hollow when divorced from the context in which they were
Starting point is 01:00:37 applied the facts as reported reveal a series of misjudgments that led to a predictable and avoidable outcome so first this incident occurred in a spanish class not an english class the west valley school district english department has a long-standing well thought out protocol for handling the racial slur in To Kill a Mockingbird. According to Superintendent Kyle Riedel and English Department Leader Christine Coolstone, this protocol, which has been in place for over 15 years, involves English teachers consistently skipping the word or referring to it as the N-word. This approach is not a form of censorship. It is a professional safeguard designed to create a safe learning environment where students feel heard and understood. It shows respect for the
Starting point is 01:01:35 text's message while acknowledging the harm the word itself can cause. So this Spanish teacher chose to disregard these careful constructed guardrails and insert himself into a curriculum that he is not trained to teach. So what happened was that he was in class and he overheard two girls talking about two students talking about how in their english class they don't say the n word and he was basically like i don't see what's wrong with that so after he said the slur which was prepped by a student who just happened to have the book open on the page where the word is handed it to him and basically said say it these students hate him what's that one news who was that on the news that they invited the guy
Starting point is 01:02:30 and they're in like it's not a big deal just say it say it i mean it's a tv show it's an act yeah but that people think it's a news it's the guy that's in uh sinners yeah but it was on it was like a new segment on the show yes yeah yeah yeah but it was it wasn't real yes yes a lot of people think it is real no that was the acting is phenomenal yes so after he said the slur the students in his class could be heard giggling and shifting in their seats this is a quote this was not the silence of profound contemplation it was the sound of discomfort and unease a truly quote-unquote teachable moment doesn't produce nervous laughter it fosters respectful dialogue and deep reflection keep in mind they recorded
Starting point is 01:03:18 him saying this so they have all the proof. When he overheard his students English teachers were skipping the word he disagreed calling the practice silly. In that moment he prioritized his own opinion over the established thoughtful and humane approach from his colleagues. And then the most serious misstep his professional duty. A teacher's primary responsibility is to be the a well-being and safety for their students. This duty takes precedence over rigid, single-minded interpretation of authorial intent. The vice president of the Spokane chapter of the NAACP, Jamie Stacey, spoke directly to this point, explaining that the teacher's actions lacked cultural humility and were insensitive to the experiences and emotions of Black students. The incident, she said,
Starting point is 01:04:12 was about centering whiteness and white people's opinions on the use of the word rather than the harm caused to the black students in the classroom. We cannot claim to be confronting history while simultaneously inflicting real-time trauma on our students. Confronting history requires understanding the impact of our words and actions, not simply repeating them for shock value. Matthew said this is the kicker he doesn't regret his actions and that his conscience is clean and while I personally cannot speak on his conscience the professional world operates on a standard of accountability not personal absolution the school district's decision not to renew his contract was not an overreaction it was a measured response to concerns from parents
Starting point is 01:05:05 and a recognition of poor judgment and the teacher's ability to serve as a good role model. This situation is not about a teacher's right to speak. It's about a teacher's obligation to act responsibly and to use their professional judgment within the school environment. It's about recognizing that there's a difference between teaching from a book and using a position of authority to inflict harm a truly bold and virtuous teacher understands the differences and chooses the path of empathy and professional standards every time not even his class no he would have absolutely crushed it at my school growing up though our spanish teachers were so fucking weird all they would do is put on music videos of titties i feel like most spanish teachers
Starting point is 01:05:54 are fucking weird like first of all one of them did i bully him yes was i 14 also yes that man literally was like but became like to the point where like i didn't go to school if he was a sub because everybody's like yeah he has it out for her pretty sure he's gonna he like started filming me in class like very weird um and i hope to god they don't do it now but if i'm not if i'm remembering correctly it was said in our class when they're as soon as you started talking about i was like i know exactly what book you're talking about and all that i remember correctly it was definitely said in our class i want to say our teacher it was not censored but i remember being like deeply fucking uncomfortable and i hope to god they don't do that anymore here but like my
Starting point is 01:06:36 god this sounds like something like a teacher at my school would have fucking said like i think that's why it's a ongoing joke that these like white especially a lot of white male teachers that speak spanish are fucking weird yes it's like in so many different tv shows never have i ever had one that was just like overly woke and just weird and would say offensive things that everyone noticed except for him and this seems like it came straight from that script without a doubt like it's like a prerequisite that it's like hey are you like a little pervy and like uh make do you make students women and people deeply uncomfortable do you have not that many friends because of your well i'm just being honest kind of mentality do you know when to shut
Starting point is 01:07:30 the fuck up and also are you a little bit of an incel hey do we have the job for you come teach spanish at this school like we literally i remember like the we had a spanish teacher who was like a woman who was like fantastic like she was amazing and she was for your family was like mexican from mexico like she that was like bilingual and also again if you're teaching i have a strong belief if you are teaching spanish in california do not teach spain spanish teach mexico spanish yeah and she did and she was wonderful and then she retired and she like literally would tutor me our school was so weird the amount of teacher who would come to my house to tutor me is fucking crazy or i went to her house and when after she left because i said i need fucking help with this
Starting point is 01:08:16 and by the way the guy who's replacing you real creepy help me out fucking creep but then they hired a man who was like in his probably like early 30s would be me being generous like i don't think he was that old and he like literally like learned to speak spanish we could like study abroad in spain and like with girls which no one's hooking up with him he's a fucking loser like it's just this like weird kind of like and i'm it's taking everything in me not to say his radio vj name because of course yes that is also what he was doing radio vj that i'm like this like suave mentality kind of a thing mixed with like the edgelord aspect of it of like something or like i don't even know do you did you take you took spanish not french right i took
Starting point is 01:09:03 overachiever but like do you remember like some of like the very like weird and like this idea of like well no in spanish this gendered like they would like make gendered language in spanish like as like a gender conversation that it was like a okay no yeah it was just like very french also has gendered like yeah but in a way they're trying to make use that like as opposed to being like oh hey this we don't have this here in the same way so like it's not a one-for-one translation but then to like use that as like a i feel like they did that at your close coastal elite school that's what i'm saying he would fit in one like this whole like we're very progressive like we voted for bill clinton but also we will be doing a sit-in to make sure that they build
Starting point is 01:09:53 no low-income housing here like it's like yeah okay for sure for sure um so and if i'm mistaken and they didn't i just like i have i just have a memory of like dread like knowing that it was coming knowing from other students that this like we're reading that this happens in the book i've also seen the plot like i i'm familiar with the piece of work and i just remember like having a stomach ache flipping through the pages because it'd be like popcorn reading being like i don't want to hear anybody say looking in class and going none none of us should be saying this and i really and i don't even remember there being like a conversation of like hey what's going to happen with this and i just if i'm not mistaken someone just said it like and i if in my
Starting point is 01:10:40 mind it was the teacher but yeah at my school it was i remember when we read it and they're like don't say it but then point it out but melissa if you want to say it you can't thank you for sure yeah i'll do that yeah like someone else it's like someone else's term for popcorn reading and they go and now to melissa and you just say the fucking word and then they pick back up where they left off like it's just it's just so fucking like and i just really and like really just to me again like has this like perfect encapsulation of like limousine liberals like west coast elite like of this idea that like well we're not like those and there there is a thing like we're not like those poor racist republicans those like rednecks anything
Starting point is 01:11:31 like that like so when we say it it's different we're saying it in an educational and i'm like no this is not just like it's just so fucking weird to me and i if you had not told me what teacher like what subject he taught but you told me it was in english spanish would have been my motherfucking first guess yeah first guess spanish teacher in 11th grade she went on maternity leave so we just had a revolving door of teachers from all walks of life half of them didn't speak spanish oh yeah and it was just and keep in mind the population of spanish speakers in northwest arkansas is very high and and specifically in springdale is very high they could have tried harder yeah i learned nothing that year um except for when we did have um a lady that was a native
Starting point is 01:12:32 spanish speaker and she came in but she was mean as hell she was like i am sick and tired of you fucking kids yeah yeah no i think about that all the time too because the way that we were scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel and i go this is california specifically the bay area like we have kids in my class who could teach this motherfucking class like i remember literally turning to like i could turn to so many fucking kids of us but like turning next to a kid who sat next to me because our last names have the same first letter and i would be like how do we and he goes yeah he's wrong about all of it and literally would help me and then they would be like don't help the students out and i was like okay so spanish was his first language you are
Starting point is 01:13:20 trying to change all of us into speaking spain spanish because you also think that's the better kind and you think that's more applicable to our lives for when we go to europe and i was like we're we're next door to mexico this is not fucking helpful for us and none of us could understand a single fucking word he was saying and i literally get so mad at him i was like can you stop with the lisp like just i understand that this is your i need you to know that you are coming in midway through the fucking year to students who have been two years deep in mech i need you to not and then they well actually so in spain we do this a little bit different i go that is lovely that's not that's not where we're at today it's not where we are not what we're doing
Starting point is 01:14:00 i wonder what he's up to yeah i just looked up just to see what the the split was springdale is 41.04 white and 39.55 hispanic or latino like there's no excuse yeah not at all all right well your turn my nomination for wrong of the week is the sansom clinic in santa barbara this is one of the fucking most fucking insane things i've seen we talk about in general like people posting like stupid shit from their jobs and like saying wild shit whether they're wearing a uniform whether they're at work or even if they're not like you do something wild online it will get tied back to your job it will also happen when you're doing something related to your job filming it at your job with every single one of your
Starting point is 01:14:59 co-workers and guess what all of them were fired one fell swoop so uh they were fired for posting a TikTok, which I saw, not from their page, saw someone reacting to it, pointing to wet spots on the exam table. And I also want to point out, this is not an OBGYN office. This is an urgent care. These are people who are coming in with emergencies, urgent emergencies. This is not routine. These are not like routine visits. And they're just every time. Whose fucking phone is that on? how long has this been going on why are you keeping these all of you had to get in and pose around and point to it like it's so wildly dehumanizing specifically like you work in this field these are patients you know this isn't like hypothetical like he he ha ha if this happened
Starting point is 01:15:51 this would be fun this is like no no you saw these patients and now you're laughing at these patients and you know these patients are going to see this the fuck uh and the caption was guess the substance. To be fair, if I'm going to guess, the vast majority of it is the lube that you use for your exams. And the text in the video said, are patients allowed to leave you guys gifts? And then it was all of them smiling that these were the gifts that were being left for them. It is insane to me. And of all shapes and sizes, well, they're pointing out all of this. Make sure you leave your health care workers sweet gifts like these i will say i do not have necessarily a personal tie to this but it is partnered with sutter health which is their position they're
Starting point is 01:16:42 like said to be their largest non-profit health care networks which is like supposed to like you know help with health care so our my hospital where i was born growing up it switched to Sutter and like everything went to shit like it was like very they had like so many fucking legal issues they like fucked up they like violated like antitrust laws like they did like under the guise of being like oh here health care we're being so helpful like they did like really fucked up insidious things and specifically like I remember that there was something with like the staffing of nurses which is like hard any any time but it was like they were not giving them like any time off and someone that was like working and i'm gonna say alleged because like i was a kid when
Starting point is 01:17:23 this happens like i don't remember all this but this i want to say this happened at the hospital that i was born in but that uh they had like a nurse working something like an insane like not a normal level of like it's something insane like they had categorically in terms of like sleep deprivation torture had fully surpassed the threshold of that and there was a patient who had a uh life support machine that just was non-stop beeping non-stop beeping non-stop beeping and they just walked in and they turned it off because they were not of their right mind yes and that is i think you talked about that yeah like that is this organization heard about it yeah so them making this like statement of like we don't stand for this or whatever like they have like so many
Starting point is 01:18:09 fucking issues and like problems and i think they maybe like shit has like really like changed immensely but i just remember growing up that like it was something that like they tried to be like oh look at this stupid nurse who did this and everybody was like why did you have her working this many hours with like no checks and balances there like why was she even able to do that and why was she being forced to work for this long um so i don't know if like shit has like It's changed immensely since, but their legal action, they did, let's see, yeah, they implemented a system-wide policy for charity care and health care discounts for uninsured patients, expanding their policy. Then they had a settlement agreement for class action related to the billing of said policy. They were sued for violating antitrust laws, leading to higher prices for health care insurance premiums.
Starting point is 01:19:04 they agreed to pay 228.5 million to settle class action lawsuit for towards three million people they filed another there's another antitrust lawsuit against them another one all of these settles like they were not required to admit wrongdoing but are paying like almost six hundred thousand dollars and like it's just like there's a lot so oh this yeah yeah this part so in 2022 over 8 000 nurses and health care workers in the 50 northern california sutter health facilities did a strike for one day asking for safer staffing levels and other contract demands and sutter locked them out for a week so i'm i i have like always been and that's also a personal bias of mine because like that's they took over the hospital that i was born at and in my town
Starting point is 01:19:57 or not town we didn't have a hospital tiny town but um they have said that they're deeply concerned about the employees actions we are deeply oh we are deeply concerned about a disrespectful that's light uh social media post made on a personal account by a former employee and we are now conducting a full review in line with our policies they stated that the individual who had posted these and all who appeared in the viral tiktok have been fired as of wednesday it was claimed that the former employee hasn't worked the facility in two months and then i'm like how do you so then you have you let people have their phones and they can film and record and like no one said hey by the way there's a former employee who has video because like what if there's like
Starting point is 01:20:36 patient information in the back of the video like there's just like you're filming at work in like a medical space you don't work there anymore and you're going to post this and if it's like oh well made sure that what did you really go through the like the the avenues to make sure that there's nothing private there when by the way what you're posting is private but like just because it's technically and like it still is HIPAA compliant because you're like well you can't tell who the person is based on the wet spot on the fucking table saying that they're the Sansom Clinic released a statement saying it shares the concern but it's just fucking wild um but the original user was angie uncut and they have obviously since gone private yeah also the people that
Starting point is 01:21:20 were in they were going like posting a photo of a group of people that worked in the hospital with her that were not in the photos of the jelly incident and some of those people are innocent so they after they did an investigation so i want media companies to stop using the group photo because some of those people did not know what was going on no this to me though it's like you have to do this over multiple days like you this is like such a long this is probably a joke that they all had together and to me it says so much about the work culture because I'm like there's too many people involved in it that like you had to keep it a secret either you had to keep it a secret from one person who got oh they're an arc but
Starting point is 01:22:12 like it does seem like the vast majority based on like you know how how many people we're usually seeing in these like medical facilities who are working there in a day it doesn't seem like you were not amongst like-minded people who also found this funny and appropriate it just is like so horrible and demoralizing and like again like knowing that this is like an urgent care this isn't just like typical routine exams like this is like usually because like something's going on like something's wrong and people already don't go to the doctor in general let alone like to get like gynecology health care anything like that because like there is this stigma of this being embarrassing of this being like dirty of this being gross and something to be like ashamed of
Starting point is 01:22:56 and like of all the fucking people like even still we're like i don't i'm like we're folding our fucking clothes when you're getting a pelvic exam like you're still like oh let me make sure my underwear is not out like you're still worried about that even though of all of the people in the world the same people who are telling like it's like uh um pilots being like of me of all people you should trust me when i say it's safe to fly when a health care worker is like of all people i'm the person that you shouldn't feel uncomfortable with this like i'm the person i'm like oh great now what like now now the barrier to health care even greater and to me i do hope that this uh helps push forward the access of at-home pap smear tests yeah because
Starting point is 01:23:36 i think this makes a lot of people feel like yeah not safe going to get medical attention fuck those people all right well that's the end of our episode thank you all for joining us tune in tomorrow for see you next tuesday wednesday take a little break thursday we've got don't blame me and on friday prepare your booty holes and cook for fisting friday and then on monday we'll be back for another episode of but am i wrong yeah all right well we will circle back This is a Sister Sign production hosted by me, Megan Rinks. And me, Melissa D. Lantz, plus Diamond Imprint Productions.
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