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hello welcome to brand new spanking episode it was supposed to be spanking was the word
i don't think i said the n there you go in true california fashion i just cut out a letter
do you do you do that now do you cut out all the t's no i'm very big on enunciating everything
that i say megan
my ancestors felt that too the irish one thank you for the clock of that one welcome this is
a podcast where we two people who are not once have her wrong tell you when you are wrong tell
other people when they are wrong talk about uh famous people celebrities pop culture current
events things in the zeitgeist who is wrong think of it like ethical gossip ethical shit talking
and it's like we're doing it for the greater good we bitch to each other you bitch to us
bitches run the world who run the world bitches i love a bitch love a love a love a bitch i love
a bitch too this bitch oh yeah you can see we are rocking as you know you would in high school
after you go to a concert the next day you show up to school wearing the merch except i was never
one of those kids because merch is expensive this merch is worth every penny yeah i still might
make make moths go get the jersey tomorrow am i that crazy maybe but we're wearing our cowboy
carter merch if you missed it you park like in the lot and pay a hundred dollars no so they let
they there's some aspect of it that there's a reason why they're letting you they're opening
it at two for merch oh you don't have to go i thought you meant like when the actual concert
it was no so like i don't know what it i'd have to look it up but there's like a thing yes you
can just park there yes yeah so i think i might have him do he did offer and yesterday he was
like i'm sorry i forgot because i didn't text him and he was like oh i didn't i should have done
that he goes i gotta go tomorrow do you want me to and i was like well if he's offering then go
that's true do it i will but we are so excited that you're here joining us oh look at you
it's pretty good it's actually not because i don't i don't stretch so like i probably shouldn't be
able to no i mean as a non-stretch it was pretty good okay i just think that like sometimes i i'm
like i should be tighter than this like my body's a little bit you have eds don't you i don't know
so i do i think that might be i mean yeah you and your weird skin well this is the this was the
first one when she goes you should listen to those people who are saying that stuff because
i love you but you're i've known your skin was weird for a while i can't believe you're just
realizing i was like you're a guy it's stretchy i didn't even know that until you told me right
i'm pretty sure melanie has it too yeah also she has weird knees i'm talking about my disney knees
right here those are almost like a baby's knees okay lacking in the cartilage yeah
very soft and her knees been back like oh yeah that's very yeah that's very and i told her
maybe let's look into this yeah yeah yeah yeah hey been there so uh anyways we also do video
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Shall we start with our first segment?
Yes, we shall start with, but am I wrong?
This is where we pitch a hot take, a rant, something that we're going through,
something that's happened that we want to know if we are in the wrong about.
Okay, my hot take spurs from a TV show I have never watched about two people I know next nothing about.
And of course, I saw a clip on TikTok and now I have incredibly strong feelings about.
what show i actually don't know okay stassi schroeder is on it oh so it's one of the new
shows maybe there's a new one that's far away okay exactly from wherever her family is from i think
like i think like lisa vanderpump was doing it and then she's like a hotel or something yeah and
or restaurant okay and then i know nothing sasi was like hey my family's from here
can i be on the show yeah i think i might be making that up you know what no hard feelings
here because guess what i have strong feelings i know nothing i know nothing about okay i did
not do nearly as much research as i did for the uh scandal thing which mott's literally brought
up the other day he goes isn't it crazy how like we watched the reunion episode of that
of venom of rules and we've literally never seen that because you cared so much and i was like
That makes perfect sense to me.
Like, of course.
And my hot take is,
it is weird to get a sibling tattoo
with your sister,
who you met later in life,
who you were not raised with,
while also saying you would never get a tattoo
to honor your wife.
What?
So Stassi, Stassi?
Stassi?
Yeah, she's sat on my couch before.
Which show?
Don't blame me.
No.
that's our show sorry uh not today that's fair that's a fine mix up i understand
same number words i just said it was such confidence we do that all the time where we
will say like one of our pot you will be welcome back to this and one of us goes no that is not
what we're doing yeah so is it stassi or stassi stassi like anastasia or something sure but her
name stassi okay so stassi's husband his name is beau i learned that okay they are on whatever
this fucking show is like a little cameo something about it or whatever and it's the clip of her
talking with her friends and he's also there that's like they're at a party or whatever
and he's also there and he's talking to his sister and they're talking about like i think like you
know this is like really weird like he got a tattoo to like honor his sister who he met later
in life like they were not raised together anything like that and then all the while being
like I would never like you know I wouldn't get a tattoo for my wife I wouldn't get a tattoo for
Stassi or whatever and she like went up to him and was like pissed about it and I guess he referenced
um people are gonna kill me like something dark the dark the
I don't know but she has like this how Beyonce has Sasha Fierce Stassi has like her evil
like villain side of her or whatever like the dark passenger well her middle name is bianca
so if you she started to say bianc yeah i was gonna say that she um i'm on her so her name is
nastasia okay so she's russian no i'm thinking of nastia lucan sorry um but she like so i get
he like starts basically using this against her of being like her like crazy side of her like the
toxic the toxic reality tv version of herself is like like oh my god you're breeding into this too
much and like no i fact i think it is fucking factually i think it's fucking weird to be
precious about like the real estate of your body in terms of like tattooing and then being like i'm
only gonna get it for something that's a really important relationship and like picking picking
your sibling who you did not grow up with and were not raised with and like you did find later
in life i don't know how late in life i actually don't think that really matters at all but it
she was at their wedding but i and you wouldn't get it for your wife you have kids that's really
fucking weird that's really really really really really fucking weird well if you're precious with
the real estate be precious with the real estate and by the way your your wife and your child
should rank over your sibling and like you know me the second someone says there's something fishy
about that boy girl sibling i go say less my guy say less and i trust a group of girls sitting
there saying this is weird they are a little too close okay and that is my hot take i don't even
know what the fucking tattoo is if it's her name it's crazy this is what i would know about stassi
oh that she's a racist yeah yeah and um she was fired and then hired a diversity coach to help
her in life like just in her daily life wow oh i'm sorry he tattooed his sister's name okay so
full name full name yeah that's weird that is weird the name is weird because in general
having a sibling i wouldn't put well i don't like tattoos but i wouldn't put any of my siblings
like names on me unless they're so unfortunately like that is kind of the connotation is like most
of the time when siblings have names not like a sibling tattoo where you have a matching tattoo
usually it's because that sibling has passed on yes and you usually would get that far before
like it's because you've known them for all of that kind of stuff like it's not like a later
in life thing usually getting a name tattooed is also like kind of a curse which i understand why
he doesn't want to get his wife's name tattooed on him i understand when people think that is a
purse so then don't get someone else's name tattooed on you yeah that's weird yeah i do think
it is crazy though that people are forgetting um that she quite literally called a police tip hot
line to report her co-worker because she heard somehow which by the way the way that you have
to seek out hey there is like someone committed a crime we're looking for this person that's not
just a common knowledge you know like shit happens all the time and like you don't know that it's not
like unless it's a fucking Amber alert,
you're not getting a notification.
Yeah.
I mean,
she was fired from Vanderpump rules because of that,
but now she's back on Vanderpump.
And people who are like,
oh my God,
I'm so glad she's finally back on TV.
When I say she's an active racist,
I mean like,
she's like,
she has a racist coach.
She's like a practicing racist.
Like this is not a passive part of her life.
Like she tried to report a black woman who has nothing in common with this
person who committed a crime,
a black woman.
she knows to the police like on her she said did it let me dial that number have you ever thought
about entering a radio contest there are so many other things you could fucking do with your time
like that to me i'm like is like so and like her being like it was a mistake and like oh then i
got canceled and i'm just like you try to have someone like that's crazy yeah that gets objectively
like just they're like that that is that is like fucking insane like you are a practicing active
every day with a coach the coach isn't coaching her to be right to be fair to be includes like
you said an anti-racist coach okay i thought you said a racist coach at first i mean that's what i
said but i tried to make sure that they're like she hired a coach to make her more racist this
first time i said it correctly but the second time i was being funny and you were funny i just don't
want this person to catch flack i want saucy to i don't want the coach to uh okay that's it
all right we're gonna take a break and then we'll get into mine
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all right we're back so mine was first inspired by there's this man on tiktok who posted a video
of him in a job interview a virtual job interview and in the video at first well there's a ai picture
up he's in a zoom meeting and there's an AI picture up and at first it sounds like the person
is speaking German and then it glitches real hard because he's getting interviewed by AI
and then the second video pops up and in the second video he's getting reprimanded by
allegedly somebody that works at the company but it sounds like this person is actively dying
they sound like they're in crisis they're like talking like this and then like
hacking up a lung he works for mitch mcconnell and he's it it felt a little not quite mitch
mcconnell a little more rfk oh uh-huh a little more imminent yeah then i was like and the things
were saying made sense but i was like there's no way that they got on was like hey we saw your
video and you need to take this down and you won't continue with the hiring practices and whatever
in the voice that they were using let's say the man of that by the way that man's never been
online that man is it was a woman i believe but yeah sorry uh-huh i just pictured rfk immediately
yeah yeah yeah mixed with like monsters ink do you remember oh my god without yes yes yes
amelia de moldenberg uh chicken shop date girls she was her for halloween last year i think it
was a good costume so then i looked in their profile well first a thought came to me it was
like we gotta stop ai of course hey that's always a correct yes it's always a correct thought and
then i looked in his profile and it says satire but i don't think most people are looking at his
profile because all the comments are very genuine about like stopping ai and that inspired my
take for today is that stop letting ai ruin your business because what he did while it was satire
and that's the best type of satire is that satire is grounded in reality yes and so we've been i've
talked about how we receive marketing emails that make zero sense but they've gotten increasingly
worse since people have started using ai it's very evident that they have not one never listened to
our podcast but like we've gotten ones that were like talking about wmba players that we had on as
guests and i was like we've never had w i was trying to find the exact screenshot but i couldn't
find it but i was like y'all aren't even trying anymore or it'll be like the can uh hey megan and
melissa the candid conversation on navigating complex social situations provided relatable
insights into personal boundaries and communication the discussion on friendship dynamics and honesty
was especially engaging after listening to this episode i thought your audience would be would
love benjamin somebody we don't love anyone named benjamin i like the benjamins yeah i don't want a
singular benjamin the uk's most hated sales trainer what the hell does that have to do with
our podcast sales trainer i don't know unfamiliar with that work i can't wait to see what they do
we loved your episodes about cousins fucking we think you would enjoy this fundamentalist
right definitely isn't running a cult but someone else said i hope this message finds you well i
wanted to reach out because i'm an avid fan of your show and love the way you dive into deep
into deep topics such as empowering women inspiring relationships and fostering business
growth when have we talked about fostering business growth now if you're an avid fan
tell me about hey i pissed my pants at that episode about the cousins fucking like i would
rather you incorporate something that is like not business professional that we have talked about on
our podcast right then like make something up to going these two boss ladies have are definitely
grabbing the world by storm with their synergy and they're circling back and then for another show
we were trying to book somebody and the person person quote unquote that responded we got three
messages within minutes of each other and the first one was like i don't understand what a time
zone is you don't understand what a time zone is oh my god stop the ai instead of having a
conversation with the person who's using the ai they said i'm just go straight to the door right
and then the second email again this was a couple minutes later was like what do you use to schedule
candidly and then listed some other services that use booking but like we are actively booking in
this email so why would we be doing that and then another one two minutes later was like
he's not available for this time but can do 11 30 p.m this person was i just told megan who it was
but we'll cut it out but this person is somebody that works at a top university yeah claimed in
our field uh-huh and it makes them look so stupid and then like using this for anybody that is a
client makes it like you said lose their credibility like I you know nothing about
my show you're pitching somebody that does not belong on my show so you're wasting time and
energy well and like hey if you actually were a real person who reached out and you had like a
real conversation we might want to work with this person who like it doesn't seem crystal clear but
like you're a real person who can explain hey I've actually done the legwork I've listened to
your show this is why I know it sounds unconventional but this is why I think this would
work yes but like now it's like even if you i'm assuming you're not even a real person so i'm not
even going to respond yes so like you've lost this now and then a trick that they try to do now which
i've seen across several different shows is they'll send an email and then once you don't respond
they'll be like megan and melissa i've been listening to your show on apple podcast is that
the best place to leave you a review or do you prefer spotify so they'll say that in a way that
they'll so then you'll respond to that and then they think they're hooking you but again i've seen
this in several different emails across different shows it's just something that they use as a way
to hook you and also ps sent you an email yesterday not sure if you got it gmail can be wacky sometimes
and then have like a weird emoji in it no that actually really that scares me i don't like their
use of the word wacky i don't like them using emojis i don't like no bumblebee would never do
this so along those lines Duolingo the little chirpy owl that has taken TikTok by storm I mean
it recently died by getting hit by a Tesla and then had a funeral and then came back to life so
you know now we've got this frustration that they've unleashed because AI has become an obsession
that is threatening to strangle the very life out of a good business so Duolingo that little
chirpy owl who is supposed to help connect with human languages is going AI first with what are
the silicone soaked algorithm world does that even mean it means they're ditching the very people
who made their content engaging who brought the nuances and cultural differences and
understandings to language learning for some cold calculated pieces of code it's just such a crazy
thing to be like hey making announcement it's really exciting everybody we're actually firing
everyone and relying entirely on computers which like you said their prior big thing that they got
in the press about was about their people for it and and culturally sensitive and topical and like
knowing the knowing their audience which is like mostly millennial gen z and like having duo get
hit by a tesla felt like a statement yes and now it's like oh no jk we love technology right and so
some corporate buzzwords that they've been using are removing bottlenecks and letting employees
focus on creative work creative work what's creative about managing the output output of a
digital paradigm no that's that's fucking insane what's creative about cleaning up the inevitable
messages messages that a program designed to mimic human interaction will undoubtedly create
and the gall of it comparing it going mobile first in 2012 that was about access to executives and
this isn't about reaching more people it's about replacing them it's about squeezing every last
drop of profit by sacrificing quality by sacrificing the human touch that is essential
to something like language learning and the thing is is like they made it sound like this big
innovation but the users are like we're not stupid a lot of people are canceling their
subscriptions deleting their accounts and they're saying that understanding language isn't just
about vocabulary words and grammar it's about connection about culture about shared human
experience and you want to replace this with an algorithm you want to learn the subtle art
of conversation from a glorified chatbot which it is a great point and good luck with that and
it's not just duolingo duolingo there's been attempts across different genres like i said
with podcasting we're getting all these soulless pitches that clearly haven't ever listened to the
show and then businesses are you listening this isn't innovation it's a race to the bottom you
think you're saving money by replacing human beings with the lines of code but you're sacrificing the
very soul of the business because there is no soul you're alienating your customers demoralizing
your remaining employees and contributing to a world where genuine human interaction is becoming
a luxury and like i said they're devaluing human contribution there's also concerns for quality
impact on contractors because they did hire contractors from around the world to make sure
that everything was correct and also relevant and current like when you're in school you're not
you're learning from textbooks not in a way that's conversational and that is something that
Duolingo pride itself on is actually being this is the way that people talk and now they're taking
that away yeah like that specific character in Duolingo who's like supposed to be a teenager
like the conversations you have with her are much more like teen like how you talk about it it's not
that it's not everything's not nearly as formal right and on top of that they've been priced
they increased the price oh my god hey we have to pay the little robot who lives inside the phone
so it's going from 65 to 70 and then um they're also looking at bundling the price from 100 when
you get like the bundle of different things from 110 to 118 there's also a lot of in-app purchases
to gamify it and what they're doing is that the user backlash against duolingo's ai first pivot
is significantly amplified by the concurrent trend of rising prices many users feel that they are
being asked to pay more for a service that is potentially diminishing in quality and losing
human touch that made it appealing in the first place and the combination poses a serious risk
to Duolingo's reputation and long-term user retention and you're not getting those people
off TikTok anymore no you're not getting any of them and hey I fell off the Duolingo train on
what day let's see it's been 205 days so hey it's like I saw into the future and predicted this and
that's actually why that's why that's why that's the reason you stopped that's the reason why I
i stopped yeah this is it's fucking crazy like and it is just like the idea that like
you're going to increase the cost for something that like by the way once you remove humans from
it all of this like ai algorithm all of those things come at me if you have any like differing
opinions of this but like as someone who like coded her own myspace when you take the humans
away from it and you make a computer generated pretty much anyone can do that job anyone can
do that so they don't need to spend money on your product when you are not even producing your
product you are outsourcing your product this way they can outsource for the same goddamn fucking
thing it's like the same thing right now with all of this um people sewing and label like white
labeling things drop shipping and all that stuff people being like i'll find the same thing on
alibaba like i can do that if you are not putting any like creative person forward effort into it
you are outsourcing that outsourcing contract will never and especially in terms of technology
ever be fucking exclusive yep ever no ever ever ever ever ever you can seek that out
someone else doing that you can seek that out anyone can do that you've no longer made a product
worthwhile it's yeah and i just encourage everybody even if you view as like you know using
i like it's crazy to me that people don't google anymore and like matz was talking about like how
we had like a conversation with like a younger person about this where they're like oh i'll just
like chat gpt and he was like you mean google i google it and they were like oh and he was like
just google it like don't read the ai thing way less energy it's and it's doing the same thing
it's a lot of things with chat gpt is just pulling a conglomerate of different information
and not actually fact checking it's pulling it's pulling from the same access of google
searches that you have but it is placing a different value on importance and fact and what
they view as valid than you would so like if you're pulling your sources that you're you're
grabbing this from as being like truthful sources and you pull from fox the onion and a wordpress
account when i'm gonna go to router routers routers routers routers uh barium webster and
like uh the yale a yale journalism like study piece of work those three things
on the same topic are all available for you to access via google ai has no additional access
to information that you do not have yep it is going from the same pool of things that you are
can search from but it is placing value on different things and like that's how things
get fucked up and like you should never listen to the ai aspect also because like it tells you
what you also want to hear which like is not the best way to do it it's just like it makes me like
so annoyed as someone who like googling is a skill like that is a skill you can't do your
own quote-unquote research literally when i was in college there's a lot of pointless classes
and in my business i was doing a business minor and i did have a class on googling and everybody
was like i'm sure it's different now but everyone was like why are we learning how to do this but
it made sense for older people who didn't know yeah but like we grew up doing this well i've
even had to like check people who i know who like they google and then the first thing that they
click is a sponsored link and i go no go down uh-huh yeah even if you like want to even if
it's like the brand that you're trying like whatever that is like don't don't do that part
like just click don't go into the business side of it just find that way even restaurant reviews
Even when I'm researching things for like something that I found for whatever my wrong of the week is, I'll find, I'll Google, but then I'll go to specific like three or four different reputable sources, but they all have different information.
So I put it all together.
Like you have to have that skill to be able to have a full rounded thought.
and guess what that will also teach you how to cook and bake yeah because that's what you have
to do like you have to get things from multiple sources pick and choose what what is like this
makes sense this is not backed up by anything i'm reading reviews on whatever this is like
you have to be able to have that discernment yourself otherwise like you are going to start
falling for shit online you're going to start do x y and z all of this kind of stuff like it
it is a skill and as much as like people are shocked by like oh my god megan you can find
anybody on like yeah i have an amazing skill that like that is a level that like i don't expect
every other person i think everyone should have i think everyone should have it and if you don't
have it your best friend needs to have it you need to have someone in your circle who has that
or someone you can reach out to again we are available if you need something like that but
the idea that like a chat gp like that is that is better is not increasing any of your skill level
even the same thing of like help me practice interviewing that won't help you no that won't
help you there are certain even ones of um there's ai ones to help you like practice reading your
lines it does not help in the same way that it does with you have a face-to-face person who's
doing that even when i record the other lines on my phone and i like practice myself back and forth
it's just not the same so i yeah it's getting like i'm getting like increasingly annoying people like
oh let me ask i even saw someone on podcast like let me ask chat gpt like what the last project
this actor was in go to imdb and they did yeah so they asked that you don't fucking wait for the
whole response they get the response and they say that and everyone's like no and then they check
imdb cross-reference and it's like oh they missed the tv oh i should have specified movie i said
project i'm like this is just like it's there's no point to it it's just and it is fucking killing
the environment there's literally no need to do that and i just think about the sense of like
if you wouldn't feel comfortable with your doctor your lawyer or your like your brain surgeon or
you're the person who's building your house if you would they are using it in doctor's office
that's what i'm saying but if you wouldn't if you would not be like stoked that makes me feel a lot
better and more comfortable and safe and like that this is this makes me feel more assured this is
going to go flawlessly if those people relying on those things rather than the research the history
their past all of those things then you should not be using it in your career either or even
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am i wrong pod at gmail.com or use our form or send us a dm with issues in your life that you
may be wrong about or you just want to rant about something and i think we have our first rant we do
so happy to hear it this is from someone 31 he him hi megan and melissa today i'm ranting about
Big Egg. Ready for it. I've noticed an increase in videos about egg flights or eggs six ways on
TikTok lately, and I want to know if this is Big Egg coming back and trying to get people to buy
eggs again. Did we not forget about the bird flu, the rising grocery prices, or the fact that most
people shouldn't be eating upwards of six eggs at a time? These people are putting peanut butter
and jelly on an egg and genuinely thinking it tastes good? I'm all for getting creative with
food within reason. Trying something new or getting on a trend, but do we think Big Egg
has something to do
with dropping a little video
or incentivizing
slash convincing people
to start the egg flights again?
We know about Big Kale
and how it may have been
a social experiment
that was pushed
that was once a decorative plant
into our homes and kitchens.
But do you have any thoughts
on Big Egg?
And if I'm wrong for thinking
there's a conspiracy theory
to recoup the lost sales
and rebrand eggs
as cool again,
would either of you
try the PB&J egg?
By the way,
you both looked amazing
for Cowboy Carter
and I cannot wait to see it
for my birthday in Las Vegas.
You're going to have
a fantastic time and and you're one of the last shows yeah there's if i don't know if you're going
to the last one or second to the last but yeah it's gonna be great it's gonna be good um i think
egg flights are i think they're a crime against humanity by the way i've never heard of this i've
never seen an egg flight i've never heard of an egg flight i think this is if you've seen it is
algorithm specific because it has not come across my page at all back to me like but i trust this
person saying that egg flights are coming back because that means that they recognize when the
egg flights were big that's when i saw them never saw but if they're recirculating for you i think
they are fucking insane oh my god you're right this is from only a couple days ago no that's
all i see is deviled eggs okay so yeah and by the deviled eggs on egg flight most of these people
aren't even making deviled eggs and they like look down upon deviled eggs i will say i think people
who are eating egg flights if those people look down on a tuna sandwich there's this whole idea
of like oh we're making eggs like cool again I'm like this is the same thing as like an egg salad
sandwich or like this is this is squishy beige food you can't have this elitist idea of squishy
beige food I love I love deviled eggs how many do you think you could really realistically eat
three yeah and that's whole and that's them cut up I love deviled eggs but I've again I've never
heard of any of this peanut butter and jelly on an egg do not bring that near me that is disgusting
i do not want to see it i don't want to smell it i don't even want to see it on a menu that
could take out a kid named brayden or a kid named everly like so fast those kids have all of those
out like that to me is a liability and peanut butter and a fruit no get an epi pen ready for
those that is disgusting who is doing this who thought how how is this being prepared are they
taking because i can halfway understand if there's no yolk because a egg white doesn't really taste
like anything but that texture is nasty well that's what i was gonna say like the texture regardless
you can't get rid of an eggs check that's why people struggle and they have baked those out
eggs like eggs regardless of what way you fucking make them eggs are gonna egg they're gonna egg and
they're gonna do their egg thing hard-boiled eggs there's quite literally nothing except maybe
jello but that's way waterier that like has that like you know it's an egg you can't close your
eyes and be like what's that it's an egg you will know it's an egg i'm so disgusted right now and
i'm glad that i didn't have a full lunch no it's because i would be and now that like i do think
that it is a flexing a wealth thing here so like i don't know if big egg is behind this because i'm
also curious who big egg is it would have to be like a what's that one of those i'm thinking of
like the eggs that are sold in the styrofoam like 24 flats something like that where it's like a
you know pump and dump kind of a thing like it's really one of those we don't have a ton that's
not like overrun in california because we have so many farms here i will say i got a carton of
very beautiful blue and brown eggs and i was like oh these must be local and then i looked on the
carton you know where it came from mexico rogers arkansas i said i guess hometown local hey that
is local to you just not currently where you are that's your local hometown they were trying they
were trying to pull a switcheroo styrofoam or cardboard packaging cardboard okay to me styrofoam
styrofoam really says something different yeah it says something different says school cafeteria
it says only suitable for college campuses as well as jails which is what all of the food printed at
my college said so now i do wonder though if it is one of those big conglomerates that's like not
a small farm like that they are trying to make money and it's something that has you know they
do everything they make milk they've got one of those big big big fucking farms i could see they're
all based in northwest arkansas i could see that being the big egg if they are doing the proponent
of it because but also the flight aspect of anything is like a rich people thing like that
is a rich people thing so like having the egg flights come back specifically during not only a
economic recession but like an egg recession to me yeah it seems like a sign of like flexing
wealth but also being like weirdly anti-science again i've never heard of this and i do
like the finer things in life i miss when kombucha flights were a thing that was incredible they're
no longer a thing and make me sad i went to a place where i regularly got kombucha flights
and they were gone everyone's getting a little too buzzed someone put goldfish on one
see that seems relish ketchup and mayonnaise and mustard see this to me doesn't even feel like
something that is high brow this feels very low brow this feels very also i will say depending on
that one felt really diet culturey this feels like the uh uh which i without a doubt partook in
as i think a lot of women were were like the like oh my gosh like you know swap this thing out with
this thing and if you use the same condiments it'll like taste the same like that shit big
cottage cheese yeah exactly so like that's to me like some of these are giving that some of these
that are like oh it's we've got prosciutto and i've got like a local raised like jam and honey
thing here some of these are giving like that and then other ones are it's like it's diet culture
like this is the new rice cake but it's like i'm flexing that i have money and which is really
crazy that in general like body quote-unquote body trends like they follow the economic
times and when you have but like right now if you don't have a lot of money and you don't have a
lot of money for food that automatically makes the style quote-unquote being thinner but then
if you have a lot of money you can buy drugs to take that will make you even thinner so then you
have to be thinner then the economic recession will make people be who are already having their
jobs cut and their pays cut so like i think there's i don't think that you are wrong i think
there's i think we could i think i could tack on a diet culture sort of influence on this as well
and at this point who knows like all you have to do is hire one good bot and then the we're in the
era of copying where everybody just wants to conform conform conform and then they just start
oh i'm gonna make a video because i saw someone else make an egg flight video and now it's like
They did all the work for you.
So this is not helping me with my eggs.
Oh my God.
Wait, no, there's a lot of them
that are peanut butter and jelly, Melissa.
I don't want to see it.
All right, moving on to the next one.
So I finally got around to binging your podcast.
I'm 28 she her.
Seven months ago,
I dumped my on again, off again situation
that had been going on for two years.
I started hanging out with a new guy
and things were going good we've been seeing each other for three months this is like the longest
the problem is he just got this new job makes a lot of money i'm happy for him but the job
is super demanding and now we're seeing each other a lot less before the new job i could tell
that we were headed towards something serious but now i'm not so sure i don't want to come off
clingy because he's overwhelmed with his new job but would it be wrong for me to ask him now
if he wants to be exclusive are you trying to lock him down because you feel like you're losing him
yeah what's the job they didn't say so no i'm just like because i wonder is the new job an excuse to
make distance or is it just that they're super they are actually super busy which
does when you get a new job and it's like a promotion from what your last job was
especially when you're settling in and learning a lot of new things it is very busy in the beginning
yeah because i agree with you to me this sounds like a scarcity thing like of being like and is
it like are you concerned that he's pulling away because like you don't you think he's not
interested in the job really isn't that serious or are you feeling like he is picking your his
job over you and like because you said you had a on and off again situation that went on for two
years and so I could really see how someone pulling away but like not actually pulling away
but like just being a little more busy I could see how that would ignite that sense in you of
like being like gotta lock it down I gotta get him because a lot of times with like situations
that go on for a long time people will look back on them and being like if i had only put my foot
down here everything would have changed it wouldn't have it wouldn't have it would have
you may have been like you put your foot down and he was like no yeah and then you could have
freed up more of your time yeah and maybe you're thinking like if i put my foot down now and he
pulls away then you know what i don't have to waste the next two years of my life and i think
that is perfectly valid I'm on that I'm without a doubt on that track because I would say that like
I think three months of dating someone and you said like I'm happy for him job supermanings
we're seeing each other a lot less so like I don't know how much you were seeing him before
or how little I I think three months and like defining it as like oh are we exclusive or are
we not or whatever depending on your age depending on how often yeah but just generally depending on
how old you are depending on how often you are seeing each other how much time you're spending
together. I think that the more time you spend together, a lot of people are like, well, he has
no time to date anyone else. I go, no, no. Even if it's a shorter length of time you've spent
together, but consecutively, you've spent more time together over and over and over again. You've
built up the hours, but like not so much in the weeks or the months. That to me is like you have
that conversation quicker than if you only see someone once every like you see someone once a
month for three months probably a little too soon yeah and that's usually more of like a long
distance kind of a thing but i don't think three months is too soon at all i think like being
straightforward of asking someone if he if he wants to be exclusive if you're interested in
being exclusive with him even if he hadn't started this new job and hadn't started to pull away if
it's not like an anxious attachment aspect of it then i say without a doubt go for it if it is an
anxious attachment aspect or if you can't decipher how much of it is that anxious side of you and how
much you actually really want it um i would go out on a date with someone else first yeah yeah
before you say i think you should go out on a date with somebody else regardless yes because you were
in a two-year on a off again relationship why don't we try dating around a little bit
yeah i guess he's because you've said you've been wait so seven months ago
seven minus three is four right so you spent four months single including get like processing and
getting over that last relationship and then get into this one how many other people yeah that's
a good point how many other people did you date and i think like i'm someone who like i push my
op i haven't avoided attachment style not anymore thankfully but like that was mine like i would
push people away. I was not like a lock it down kind of a person. I would, if I immediately started
like noticing that someone had feelings for me or I started having feelings for them, I'm ghosting,
I'm leaving, I'm running away. I am, I'm not responding. I'm deeply avoidant. So for me to
know that like, Hey, am I running away because I have feelings for this person or because I don't
have feelings for this person, I would go like literally the second I started dating anybody new,
i would like go on dates with like six other people just to be like let me gauge is it this
person or is this me actually having feelings and so like i in general think dating more people
solves a lot of problems yeah so do you actually like them a lot and if the answer is yes then
let's have that conversation if it's more i just like the attention yeah and i'm missing that
attention then we can go get attention from somebody else and also you can go get attention
from somebody else and like realize like oh no i actually do like this person and like i'm gonna
ask him if he wants to be exclusive and like you did nothing wrong because you were not exclusive
or you can be like oh i actually don't like this person as much i'm gonna it was just the attention
break off things with this person and pursue things with some other guy or other person
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We are back and it's time for What Are They Wrong?
And this is where we nominate a person, place, or thing, something, current event, pop culture,
who we think deserves some public attention, parentheses, the negative kind.
This could be as obscure or as popular.
And we also solicit if anyone's like, hey, talk about this thing.
This is another one that you can submit, tag us in things they want to talk about.
And this one is something that I have been like following for, I would say, like a couple months.
And it's one of those corners of the internet that, do you ever like get into like a deep dive?
because you're like, I have to be missing something. Because the reaction to this is
so disproportionate to this. It feels so wild. There has to be something here. And humanity
can't have gotten to this place. This can't be what humans are doing. And the way it was brought
up was in a TikTok comment. And it was brought up in a very normal, logical way of telling this
person like hey you should check out this thing and I was like I click on the it turned into a
blue comment clicked on it it takes me to someone's TikTok profile and I was like oh I've seen this
person before this doesn't make any sense to what this person's saying they said go on the Reddit
I look on the Reddit it is the most vile fucking insane thing I've ever seen so for my nomination
I am nominating the members of Sid Towles Snark which is now a sense band subreddit
which uh for months to the point of i think even like the past year have made it their entire
mission to quote-unquote prove in their mind that this 25 year old is lying about having cancer
and reading this subreddit a couple months ago was like quite literally the most disgusting thing
i'd ever seen and it was like it was a mindfuck because there were people posting in there who
like you look on their accounts and they're posting in just everything everyone they think
is faking illness it's all these people who have all of these things their entire social media
time is spent and it's not wasn't a huge community it had like a thousand or something members or
whatever but like it felt like dozens of posts today like these people were so active it was
so much of their life trying to prove that this girl did not have cancer and she was an influencer
before she was diagnosed with cancer and she is like a young pretty girl she got diagnosed in 2023
she like never had really any major health issues but like she had like a sizable decent
platform she's not like the biggest influencer in the world and like she's definitely grown a lot
exponentially since 2023 but like she hadn't she had she had a following to the point where people
were probably already not huge fans of her that her getting cancer as opposed to them being like
oh wow i'm gonna lay off talking shit about this woman instead was like i hate her so therefore
she must not actually have cancer because if she has cancer and i'm hating on her that makes me a
bad person so instead she actually doesn't have cancer okay and uh i saw this the comment that
someone told someone to check out was this guy who he had cancer at a very young age and he is
like talked about he talked about the show apple cider vinegar which i tried to watch and i could
not get through it's too it's just too much um and he talked about how when he had cancer he
ended up like on sides like seeing things of people who are like faking about having cancer
and how and everyone he knew who had cancer also had people in their life personal lives accused
them of faking cancer that it became this epidemic of like suddenly even people who aren't famous are
being accused of faking cancer and like this whole thing so he like is he's like i researched this
stuff and like there's not a lot of cases like i'm he's working on like a book or something about it
like the demographics of people who usually do this it happens most often in english-speaking
countries most often with white women and like there's like the socio-political economic aspects
of this so he comes at it from like an intellectual perspective and someone had commented you should
check out sid tau and he was like oh he responded because i remember i saw his response he said i'll
check it out and then i think afterwards he was like she has can't like this is not this is not
a girl who's like on a go fund me begging for money like this is not like she has videos of
her getting chemo and like you know the response to everything was it's AI it's AI it's AI it's
not real it's AI AI is ruining uh-huh and so anytime like that I saw like I would just I
blocked the subreddit because I was like as soon as you look at it one time it starts popping up
and I was like this is so fucking detrimental and like I already have like a very hard time with
people who participate in things like illness fakers because like statistically statistically
it is the same like as being like oh no this woman is lying about being sexually assaulted like
sure there are the amount of people who are sick with these things specifically women versus the
number of women who are lying about that disproportionate and to focus on that very
very small group as if that is going to help the very large group of people who are not being taken
seriously by the medical field that doesn't they're not fucking correlated whatsoever um and
I yeah I blocked it wished this girl well engaged with her content every time I saw it but like
didn't participate until last week I think it was or a week before the New York Times came out with
a profile I have cancer the TikToker said then came the torrent of hate from about a week ago
as a time of recording this the research that was done on this was
beautiful the article deep dives everything and there is somebody who then I saw this on Reddit
when I opened it all to like when I went back to look at everything yeah she talks about how hard
it was to be like if I quit YouTube if I quit because she makes I think she's making YouTube
videos too but if I quit making videos and updating it's going to look to the people who
know that I have cancer or who like aren't privy to the side of people on the small side of the
internet which yes it's filtering into her regular comments but like it's not huge it's going to make
people who have no idea about that think that I died and it's going to make people who think I'm
faking cancer thinking that I am faking it and I'm running away she's like there is no like
positive way to do this and like yes the love totally outweighs the hate but like
the more if she gets bad news they're all like she's lying about that and like
while you're going through cancer to like target somebody to have all of this like attention and
snark on her while she is like dealing with this is like so fucked and someone who was following
this who is just a fan who has remained anonymous or not even a fan someone who just like enjoyed
her content and then saw people talking about her in this negative way made their own like snark
page infiltrated everything did a huge massive deep dive and this person works in the medical
space and that's they were like i know this girl's not fucking lying did all this deep dive
found the names of like i think about like half a dozen of these people new york times published
them incredible and some of these people women in their 30s and 40s who work in the medical field
but of course not in anything that requires any sort of medical degree or certain certification
no something that where you have like the the kinsey skit no that's the sexuality one
the dunning cougar effect or whatever the little amount of information you have feeling overly
confident about it being like oh i work in the medical field and it's like you
no you you you work you answer phones you don't have access to the you don't have a better
knowledge than anybody else in this they published it and the new york times reached out asked those
people for comments and they were like i would like to be left alone during this time like
I don't want to be targeted. I'm going through a hard time right now. Hmm. Maybe similar to the
girl, the 20 year old who has cancer. And one of the other things I thought was like,
just the evidence, quote unquote, was so fucked was that she's from California or she was living
in California and moved to New York because it's like a very rare cancer that usually affects
people much older than her. So she, you know, went to she moved to New York by herself.
and everybody's like if she really had cancer her her mom would have moved with her and like
they couldn't afford that she had to move here by herself she had to go through and they're like if
she really had cancer she wouldn't be going treatments through treatments by herself what
the fuck does that mean like what what does that mean and the only time that she even ever listed
a gofundme was she wanted to get her mom a trip for her birthday and it like went so above and
beyond and she immediately shut it down and felt really bad and everybody's like no said we want
to help like
you're living in New York
by yourself
going through cancer
like we want to help you
like we want
and like she's not getting
a lot of good news
like and like
but she hasn't lost her hair
so people
so these people are like
well she obviously
like all of these
kinds of things
like this is
it's just so fucked
so so so fucked
and
I just think in general
like snarking
quote unquote
on someone
who you think
is like lying about
having like a health thing
or whatever
when someone is lying
about something
it is like
incredibly obvious and like you don't do that if you are doing well mental health wise and like
I hate to break it to most people like as someone who has been through her fair share of mental
health things that mental health stuff like is an invisible illness until it is not and like if you
are at the level where you are faking having cancer your mental health is not an invisible
illness at this point like this is something that is so clearly like I have seen people who
people like oh this person is faking this meant this thing they're going through if you are faking
that is a that is a mental health problem in itself like that is a problem in itself and i've
even seen it with this other influencer who like you know i don't even want to give caveats of like
oh this person isn't great or whatever because it's nothing to do with it but people like snarking
on another influencer because they were like well she's done all these bad things in her past like
so why are you snarking on her losing her hair from chemo right like those things are unrelated
and also like by the way if you want someone to like do better and be a better person
like coming at them with like like like just nasty nasty vile things right now i promise you
they are not receptive to be to to learning and growing from their past mistakes right now when
they are like violently ill from cancer treatment like if you want better for someone you hope for
them to get better and you send a message about you and you and you or you just like stop falling
like you hope for that later on but thinking someone's going to do all of this like growth
and whatever and like prove to you why you should care if they live or die when they are going
through cancer treatment is like to me like a level of like a lack of empathy that like is like
startling okay so that's it and um yeah fuck that subreddit all right and then my i was
and it had been requested but i had already written it down to talk about lisa from black
pink having rosa park on her crotch but it has come out that is not rosa parks so we will move
on yeah i will say i think the fact that it was even close enough that it could have been rosa
parks maybe we shouldn't put anybody on the cross yeah i agree um but mine so imagine you're at a
party for the Kentucky Derby, and you're at a reputable hotel. You go use the bathroom. You
walk into the women's bathroom, and this is supposed to be a place where you go to use the
bathroom. You go in with your girlfriend, and so for Ainsley Baker, this turned into a whole ordeal.
A security guard, a man security guard, walked into the women's bathroom, barges in, starts
banking on the stall door and then Ainsley comes out and it's like what's up and the guards like
basically saying you don't look like a woman you're a man so uh you need to leave the women's
restroom he accused her someone who is a woman was signed female at birth of not being a woman
even if she wasn't assigned female at birth who cares again this is a thing where they're like
we need to protect women but you have a man going into a bathroom to berate women so who
is actually being protected here she's humiliated and basically going through a nightmare he then
made her show id and the guard then misplaced even more authority and was like you need to
prove your gender protecting women from who right and so ainsley and her girlfriend liz
as they were leaving other women in the line fueled by ignorance and prejudice start yelling
at them saying get him out of here he's a creep they were being very judgmental homophobic
and just doing things that turned a simple act of going into the bathroom as humiliating
this wasn't just like a simple misunderstanding the liberty hotel in its initial response offered
a flimsy excuse about that there were two adults in one stall and i will say as as women we do this
often we do go to in a stall regardless of sexuality like especially if there's a line
the way that like i have gone into a stall with strangers because there is a line yes like this
is like you that is not uncommon no whatsoever and like you don't get mad when other people
no that's like a that's a no no and men use all use the bathroom together anyway and if you have
an issue or historically have an issue with like how your bathroom line is run you have a bathroom
attendant and if you don't have a bathroom attendant and you have like preferences about
how the bath i'm i don't believe you yeah and so they're basically at first they were victim
blaming saying because there were two in the
stall and both Liz and
Ansley said they were not
in the same stall
and even if they were who cares
who cares
they're just friends they're roommates
so then there was public outcry of course
and saying that there was
a clear injustice here
the security guard was suspended not
fired suspended
and the hotel is promising
retraining and a donation
to an LGBTQ
plus organization i don't really buy it though me either and why wasn't he fired because he was
doing exactly what they wanted him to do that's why he wasn't fired and if you're always old he
can't be retrained i'm sorry is he your is your grandfather or is he an employee ruins your
reputation a suspended guard doesn't erase the humiliation that ansley endured and a donation
doesn't undo the fear of violation that she felt and this incident isn't just about one
overzealous guard it reflects a broader social issue a climate where people feel entitled to
question and harass others based on their gender expression so the liberty hotel gets my vote for
this week yeah it's it's wild and i like there's like a a pecking order of who this comes for and
i think there's like a lot of like straight cis women who like the idea of like trans rights is
something that's like oh you know like i don't but like they have no fear in that and like hey
your empathy you should leave with empathy and like regardless if it's ever going to come to you
you should care you should care just as much about people being targeted regardless if that will end
up being the group of people you are in but objectively it is it will be the group of people
that you are in because it is not about genitalia it is about what you are presented like in women
and like as someone who is like a tall kid like the amount of times like as like as a pre-teen
because we were taller than like me and my i had like one other friend who was taller than the boys
they'd be oh you guys are actually boys it's like no but like if you're a woman and you are tall
yeah if you are a woman who and she is and if you are a woman and you uh are dressed not in like a
fucking sundress if you're a woman who has dare who looks like you could be scouted by willamina
models you've got a strong jawline you have an androgynous look to you you have short hair
you have anything you have anything that is not perceived to be the most feminine but even at the
same time fake boobs fake boobs can be oh perfect feminine or trying too hard to be feminine like
it is making such a rigid narrow idea of what womanhood is because it's about what womanhood
they see what womanhood they see as valid yeah and there is nobody safe in that aspect of this
and i yeah i just every day i think about the fucking turfs and shit that i'm like by the way
you this is what you wanted this is what you wanted and it will come for you too and ansley
said that she came forward because this isn't the first time that this has happened and unfortunately
she doesn't think it'll be the last and so she wanted to speak out because she is tall she does
have an androgynous look she has more of like a square jaw and like again who cares yeah who cares
i truly at home we don't separate bathrooms here's the thing as long as you don't pee on the seat
i'm good that's all i care about and by the way you can pee on the seat just clean it up before
i get in there i'm perfectly fine sharing a bathroom with whoever i am fine sharing about
with literally anyone else i i have ibs i am not one to judge like and how many times have us like
we've the women's line is so long that we go into the men's bathroom oh my god every fucking concert
like every sports game like so many so many fucking times like this is just yeah it's really
scary and it's like really fucked up and i saw someone online who i'm i don't remember exactly
who it was who had said this but they had like they are a long they do long distance marathon
running and they were accused as they were sticking up for uh trans athletes they were
accused of being trans yes i remember them and she was like they were like tell us if you aren't
she was like no like i this idea that like to prove i am not one of it it fucks us over for
all of us so like and she was like i encourage everybody if you are accused of being trans
a there is no way you can prove it that will satisfy them and b if you make the effort to
prove it we are normalizing that behavior of that so just don't do there's nothing wrong with being
i'm not i'm not insulted by it i don't feel a need to defend against it it doesn't matter if
I am or I'm not it is not any of your business and like that mentality is something that we just
we we need to we need to keep because it is uh it's getting really fucking scary yeah it's been
really fucking scary but especially yeah and not just here like in in the UK like all like all
around the world yeah so all right that's the end of the episode thank you so much for listening
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