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welcome to but am i wrong
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did everybody agree with us people not agree with us it's okay if you didn't agree with us
depending on the fucking topic right but also if you don't agree give a full statement as to
why you don't agree not something like
yeah finish that sentence finish it i go ahead i i would love to hear how you do it i i
give me a topic any topic pineapple pizza okay don't say i like it
explain why give a full thought out explanation just saying i like it doesn't do anything for me
to talk about it or if you're like you know what no like this is cool then tell me what brand that
it is that actually works yeah change change my mind like explain to me being like why am i wrong
like if you think i'm wrong like well why what is the not just like i just it's a vibe i got a vibe
and i'm like okay like am i your personal gina rodriguez like that's crazy and why are you still
here i know because you won't even i refuse to watch jane the virgin i can't even start that
will trend show because she's in it now yeah there's only one one thing that we both agree on
we allow everybody is entitled i think everybody is entitled to one gina rodriguez project and the
and if yours is jane the virgin i have questions because there are multiple red flags within that
it someone great is one where i go i can separate the art from the artist when the art is someone
great which is the movie that movie is so fucking good movie is perfect why is i need to make my
why is everybody that is in it why are they not like a star star no it like they literally were
like let me take people who have who are literally actors who have been people's like hyper fixation
or like obsession and like let me employ the hardest working people in hollywood yeah let
me give them a job here let me give them let me give them some of the greatest work that they
will ever do and the way that like people are just making other rom-coms that like
after someone great that like aren't that where i'm like we've redefined like we have brought to
the age of the 2020s actually that's probably 2018 2019 genre yeah of what rom-coms are what
do you mean you're just ignoring like i don't understand netflix was doing something real
special around that time where they had that movie and they had the one you and matzah uh-huh uh
match pitch some it had tennis i don't know oh perfect match i don't know i don't know what the
name of the fucking movie is i knew it until you started saying random fucking words uh
and then there's that other one that like took place in ibiza like there were some really good
movies that came out where set it up see it was something but that's not like tennis related
sure but like it also relates to date like it's not like yeah because there's assistants setting
a calendar and then dating match is a dating show on netflix i'm pretty sure never heard of it um
wait no perfect match is that not the mtv one that i watched don't know uh but they were doing
something really special and then they just stopped it is it's a dating show on mtv
well i should actually spell match right to confirm um no it's netflix okay
and netflix bring back those good like they felt like they were written specifically
for us no and now they just make random stuff with fucking chris pratt like i you keep talking
about chris pratt and i literally have not seen this man by the way i was like so excited to
watch this new sci-fi movie starring a very like lovable and cute robot millie bobby brown and
john carlo and then guess who's guess who her buddy is throughout the whole movie
chris fucking pratt and i said i can't why is it a cartoon the robot is is he a robot
no i have to see chris pratt's face i don't know the robot's very adorable i might here's
the thing if john carlo's in it i might just watch it and chris pratt's supposed to be like
lovable he's kind of getting john mulaney jaw right now i mean i think he gives that lovable
vibe because he parks him right outside of yeah if you just like if you only see him in the stuff
that he's acting in yeah that that makes sense i literally have not seen this man in years
oh that's so nice and you bring him up like once a week because i really hate him and hey we're
so far all of the enemies of the show yeah they're gonna take him down one by one
anyway let's get into but am i wrong but am i wrong is when we pick something from our personal
lives it could be a person a place or a thing it could be a situation that we were in it could just
be a rant and something we want to talk about and we present it and we discuss amongst ourselves
if the other is wrong and then you guys can of course vote on it perfect am i first me okay cool
do you have yours yeah that didn't sound convincing either well it's like not a sentence
and so i do have to figure out like how i'm gonna phrase it i will say mine is kind of speech
this is the type a and the type b friend um i will say but i'm i'm in the middle i'm trying
8.5 the part that is like i'm really hung up on for mine is a way to phrase it coming off the
heels of your last one because i know that sounds crazy that like i'm on the other side but i'm not
but like i can't find a way to phrase this thing that doesn't then include that i would feel this
about that which i don't at all we're talking about old men and young women okay i'm trepidatious
now i know because you this is the thing you will agree with you will agree with me okay in this but
like i'm just trying to find a way to like describe it that isn't like that excludes the effect of
this which is what you talked about last week okay you can listen to last week's episode
or the last episode before this one okay okay i'm ready for your fucking sermon
anyone call it a sermon but it is very theatrical well you're wearing the you're wearing the outfit
for it if i could stand i would stand and give this as a theatrical speech which is a sermon
monologue friends enemies cunts bitches lend me your ears
or perhaps lend me your microscopes we're gathered here today in the dazzling city of
los angeles where this event took place a place known for its illusions and grand spectacles
to witness what has been
billed as
the world's smallest racetrack
we've seen the hype
the flashing lights
the celebrity endorsements
and yes
even the
enthusiastic
pantaloon adjustment
we've been told to tell
of tiny titans
a microscopic marathon
i don't even know what we're talking a sperm race designed to raise awareness about the very serious
issue of male fertility or infertility no fertility so we're just talking we're talking
about strong swimmers 17 year old eric zoo with a vacuum of over millions of dollars
has presented us with a spectacle.
Giz samples, bravely navigating two millimeter track
under the watchful eye of a microscope.
Their progress gloriously rendered in 3D
for our viewing pleasure.
You should send this to that job you're talking to.
This is a script.
We've heard the earnest proclamations from the organizers.
Quote, sperm racing is a serious company.
They declared their sincerity almost palpably.
They speak of declining male fertility, a crisis, quote unquote.
They aim to combat through the power of entertainment.
They want to turn health into a sport to make a once taboo topic of sperm mobility.
something we track something we improve they even handpick contestants offering them
weekly stipend stipends to optimize their biomakers
and who are we to doubt
such a noble endeavor we saw two young men i mean boys really step forward and one even boasting
a remarkably clean lifestyle much to the audience's playful
derusions and i implore everyone to go look at this because think of a boxing match and how
before the match when they're doing their
weigh-ins, how they're smack-talking
and really amping
the other up. And this
was that. Who's doing that talking?
The two
people involved
that jizzed. Do they personify
the jizz? Are they speaking as the jizz? Or are they
just like, there's my little guy.
It says they're the father of the...
It's their jizz.
But are they treating it...
Are they role-playing as the jizz themselves?
Or are they encouraging them as
like you know the coach i have been living this lifestyle where i don't drink oh and so my sperm
is gonna beat your sperm i thought you meant that it's kind of like when you like um like a uh like
sing to your plants to make them grow faster no no i mean they're coaching them along too during
when the race is happening they're also talking yes before there's also a large crowd people are
cheering can you see it yeah
allegedly and i'll get to that oh hey brings me right back to the davinci
um we witnessed the dramatic final race the victor showered in a celebratory liquid and
the proud winner tristan milker pocketing a cool ten thousand dollars i don't think i think he needs
to change his name if he's going to participate in this. I don't think that's okay to do in this
name. The narrative is compelling, right? A clever, albeit unusual way to grab our attention
and spark a conversation about real concern. The organizers were quick to distance themselves from
those who might exploit the topic for less savory agendas, emphasizing their focus on health and
awareness they want us to believe that this is about optimizing biomakers about making male
fertility a topic of mainstream discussion and my thoughts are men really drive these discussions so
if they just want to talk about it they can talk about it so i don't know why we need to have
jizz offs no i i'm i actually truly am addicted to men thinking they're like so so horribly
victimized when they're like we need to care about men's mental health and i'm like do you
know who doesn't care about men's mental health men like this sounds like a interpersonal problem
don't bring us into it you said we're too emotional and you get mad we suggest you go to
therapy what the fuck do you want us to do i've got another pun coming that i'm really proud of
by the way i literally just looked on his instagram and it's startup founded by 17 year
old raises 2.3 million dollar seed which i go god damn it now any stop stop oh sorry i'm revealing
but as we marvel at the miniature drama unfolding on the screen
a tiny seed of doubt has been planted
that was good wasn't it so there is an actual expert a voice from within the very field of
fertility on TikTok named Dr. Stephen Palter, and he's a specialist of fertility. And he literally
said, I watch sperm all day long. And he raised a rather significant question.
Is the spectacle a sperm race or is it actually fraud? Because he said that what we're seeing
under the microscope isn't human sperm at all he thinks that it's a clever piece of computer
generated imagery cgi a digital deception designed to look like a real thing and he listed several
reasons he said the anatomy and the movement on screen of the on-screen participants seem to defy
biological reality he points out the disproportionately short tails that should be
about 90 percent of the sperm's length he also highlights that the unnatural stillness of the
sperm head as the tail whips back and forth a stark contrast to the characteristics jiggling
motion of live sperm even i know that and he does a side-by-side comparison of actual sperm that he
looks at during the day in this race and also in the race they're going like in lines and that's
not how sperm move no you like will lose but when you watch it in like a health class in high school
you'll be like okay everybody like they did this in our class like okay everybody pick one and
follow it and like you would literally lose them because some would like go behind other ones and
then you wouldn't be able to see them any like it is not yep you can't track it exactly but the only
the thing is is that I haven't seen any other doctors saying anything about this I tried to
look it up to see if like anybody else any actual professionals working on the field are even
helping with this and the answer is no and so he's one voice and that's the only one that I've
heard corroborating opinions from and there's no other experts that have weighed in um and he has
his video has been up for days and he hasn't taken it down and i haven't seen like anybody saying
you know you're wrong is this awareness campaign built on a foundation of digital trickery is the
world's smallest racetrack merely a stage for sophisticated illusion as i said earlier cunts
bitches anyone in between we came here expecting to witness a biological ballet a testament to the
tenacity of the microscope. We were told this was about measurable metrics, about tracking and
improving a vital aspect of male health. But if the racers themselves are figments of a computer's
imagination, then the entire premise begins to unravel. The questions multiplying. Were the
samples even real? Were the pre-race health assessments anything more than a theatrical
window dressing? Was the data supposedly being collected and analyzed based on genuine biological
specimens? The organizers have presented a compelling story, one that blends entertainment
with a serious message, but we, me, Dr. Poulter, we have a discerning eye. We must consider the
possibility that the spectacle might be precisely that, a spectacle, divorced from the reality it
claims to represent. I think further investigation is needed. More experts are needed. And
for now, as the confetti settles and the echoes of tie dollar sign fade, let us hold both the
inspiring narrative and the unsettling questions in our minds. Am I wrong for thinking that this
is fraud you're not wrong at all i found his linkedin uh first of all this kid is as you
guessed it he follows you know trump mr beast rfk like all the uh who's that fucking smokes
guy or whatever like all of like the rage baby like turkey brother all that shit um his
his linkedin truly rule reads like he's trolling yep um and i i will say that like this feels like
a very well-timed and curated push because he just three weeks ago like had all of this like
uh press about how his like other startup that he has which is the one he raised like 2.3 million
dollar seed for and the the catch line of that which makes this even fucking grosser because
it's not related to this but like they are coming out at the same time so like you're getting that
crossover everything you keep saying is use your words get ready he started in a high school
bathroom and i'm like he's like this this this tech bro started just started in the high school
bathroom we're moving out of garages parents garages now now we're moving to the high school
bathroom you're making it sound like this underage boy is jizzing into a cup and then conducting
experiments because that's not what this one is about but like when you're pairing it with
talking about both at the same time um and he his banner image on linkedin is him sitting in a
bathroom like with his laptop um and his about section on again linkedin is at his username on
insta and twitter don't check linkedin messages email me here if you want to chat smiley face
and then the fucking his education lists two high schools because at first i thought he went to like
carmel valley like in california and i was like this is a deeply rich kid but indiana and his
it says grade nine and ten and then a caption under his education there it says got kicked
out of the bathroom like slap like smiley slash face and then the next one is laurel spring school
which seems like it's probably an online extension saying one of my bathroom perms back so i switched
to online oh okay and then he his first thing listed on here is a brand called growth that he
had from 2020 to 2021 and then when he was a little child yes and there's literally no punctuation
all lowercase parentheses sold in april 2021 did some growth stuff and then uh soma capital fell
no he did fellow soma cap whatever and then dinners were very tasty then general partner at
botchmanity capital full-time present for three years backing deeply technical projects
and and it's like wait genuinely what like it's just he's attached to pictures
and then co-founder sperm racing full-time and then the caption number one swimmer yeah
yeah he has 31 000 followers he's based out of san francisco now i felt like he was going to be
a california kid but he's not well they'd have the race here in la so it's all part of his plan
hate i hate men who do troll marketing like i he's still a boy oh sorry i clicked on a man
he he's got one recommendation from this man named scott hinkle and scott hinkle is a adult man from
unless he's aged up his photo or he's like aging rapidly um and his is he has a toilet in his
fucking username and it says go in here co-founder of throne whoop for your poop emoji stop like
genuinely stop so
yeah i'm glad i got to share this with everyone i've like how did you find out when did this
happen i've heard they've been talking about this for weeks who has people like the news i've been
hearing about it for weeks whoa you just missed out i fully did and like i thought it was a joke
when i first heard about it but then i saw the actual video and i was like like leading up to
it before they actually had it i was just like this is a joke right oh my god they have a live
stream manifesto method methodology tryouts oh my god you can watch this feels illegal
this feels like deeply like it was in the news they were saying the world's first sperm race
yeah la racetrack ended april 25th 2025 usc won you have to pay to watch the live stream how are
they making money from this well he has all this yeah but who gave him the money where is his
parents wow there was a halftime show i'm sorry yes this is like it they they treat it like an
actual sports competition well i wonder why he follows logan paul same vibes wow and where's
all this money coming from we're gonna get you're gonna get to come up with some this one yeah
wonderfully so thank you for this that's exactly what it is what is it come up and
we're not really able to escape this today like that's just going to be the entire day yes it
will be you did a phenomenal job and i do actually think you should submit that as a
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We're back from our break and it's time for my hot take.
And my hot take is this is dated on May 1st, 2025.
So if you're listening to this and like it's been a while
or like something has fucking changed.
Oh boy.
I want you to know that like this is the state
that I'm coming at this from.
So I am allowed at any point in the future
if some new information comes,
I'm very cool with changing my mind.
But as of today.
This makes me nervous.
No, no.
As of today, in this moment,
i don't see an issue with what jordan hudson is doing who is jordan hudson she is the woman who
is dating bill belichick i this was my second choice the way i am seeing people eviscerate
this woman online about she just is using him for his money oh my god they need to launch and
invested all of this stuff and yet we're not questioning why a man in his mid to late 70s
is dating someone in their 20s he's dating her because she's young and hot she's not dating him
for his personality it's transactional in that way in this whole thing of being like if anyone
i will say the people who are like there needs to be investigative claims of elder abuse that's
totally fine he also then shouldn't be working that's exactly where i literally me and avia were
having this conversation uh because she was talking when the stuff with shannon sharp came up
and then she brought up him and then these interviews happened after that where she is
running a tight ship and i gotta say that's a girl in pr and i said not well but yeah i said
I don't think he's well
and that's fine but then you also then
can't say but I still want him to fucking coach
whatever is it whatever team he is whatever
college he was coaching now that you can't have both
yep you can if he is not in the mental
capacity which is fine that
is fine I think we should have
protections for that there then he
should not be working he should not be
but this whole thing of being like
no like he should
have he's like she's controlling all of this
kind of stuff and I'm like okay if she's controlling
all that kind of stuff you do have to give up your precious
precious coach then yeah like you cannot have it both ways what this idea that like she is supposed
to love him for like who he is and he likes her for her money i don't think either one of them
are in love no and that is fine and that's fine that is i don't also don't think they're having
sex and i'll put that out there i also don't think they're having sex either i mean if anyone wants
my theory i think that this is uh he does not want to lose his job and he is i'm not saying
he's dealing with dementia or something but i think he's probably dealing with maybe an early
onset of it could be cognitive it could be uh muscle related could be a parkinson's day it's
something and i think that she is quite literally hired and in order to you know not raise up
suspicions or like have people work like and because he's in the public eye and also for his
ego I think they are pretending that they are dating I think that like this whole narrative
that like she is this horrible horrific evil woman and this is where like you I might lose
some of you I think like if that is like oh my god you know she's this she's elder all of these
kinds of things to have that there's like zero culpability for this man to suddenly start because
at the the story which they're now saying is they're not corroborating but then they did a
release statement afterwards that he he wrote saying that like essentially about how they met
on the plane which they wouldn't answer in that interview which has been the story all along and
then they like in the this follow-up statement they were like well that's how we met and it was
like well then why didn't you fucking say that in the interview super weird that like she would
have been a college student when they met and this was in their own timeline words of this years ago
it has been a good amount of years the idea that like he met her at that age and he has
he's so incapacitated that like he has no idea that it shouldn't be appropriate for him to be
attracted to and start courting a 17 year old 18 year no what was she yeah 18 i don't know that
part she's she's fucking young she's so fucking young that like this whole thing of being like
oh my god she took advantage of him as if it is it is a any man ever to be like well i thought
she was really into me that's a problem it's a problem if you are why are you on a plane with
someone who is this young and if she is the responsibility the her it's she's the person
who's responsible like oh like this is elder abuse she did she did all these things like this is we
need to save him this is so bad ask yourself how did they meet on a plane as she's a broke college
kid who's the story is that she's like studying for something and he helps her with like her
textbook or whatever is she sitting in first class as a broke college student or is he a
bajillionaire sports tycoon is he sitting in coach or do you think maybe that they were on a private
plane and who invited this random college student there the if you were fine with this before being
like oh she's a gold digger and he just wants a rant he just wants like a hot young
girl like they they are if if it is transactional it is transactional both fucking ways
i think she worked in pr his health is declining i wonder if she worked in marketing and she is
his she was his PR person they were traveling on a plane and then she noticed what was happening
but knew that he had an image to maintain she says we'll trick everyone out by saying I'm 20
or however young that they were that's what they'll focus on well I'm running the shit behind
closed doors just like ailing presidents when their wives stepped in were and were actually
running the country quite often but so people are giving her shit now being like oh my god like
she's just she's using him for like she has appointed herself like a coo of his company
that like is a brand new company that exists she's got she bought in this course of like three weeks
she bought like three multi-million dollar properties and i just i truly just want to ask you
why would why does she want to spend time with this man and if you have like a reason for that
of being like oh she just wants him for his money now ask me why does he want to spend time with her
like if one is not acceptable then the other is not acceptable if one is acceptable the other is
like but this whole fucking notion that like old men should be able to date women as young as they
want and those women should be entitled to none of their money they should not be wanting them
for their money and they should remain forever hot and desirable for them you're an old man and
you're being like well he you know he's got a lot of money so like he's got to be careful like but
you also don't want her to have any of his money like you just want the idea of being associated
with him and i have to say like she's getting fucking investments from this she's doing like
she's quite literally on his payroll she's running the company
and like okay go off girl boss but like it's just like this idea that this is like the most
like egregious thing that anybody could ever think of and i go not when this 70 year old man started
dating a 20 year old it's just the fact that this 20 year old is seeing what she can get out of this
relationship which is the only benefit of being in a relationship with a man who is this old
why else do you fucking think if he wanted to marry if he wanted to be with someone for love
he can find someone his own age he doesn't want to he wants to be with someone who has a certain
kind of look and that's what you're gonna get like that's what you're gonna fucking get and
people are like well he you know he had his last girlfriend like just was stupid of her she should
never done this like he never married the last one's like she won't get anything out of it
clearly she got something out of it she's still getting stuff out of it there you go
yeah i agree with you i have had this conversation as i said with avia
this is a different circumstance yeah and like i said i don't think they're having sex
no no and this whole like poor him i think like infantilizing these like fully grown adult men
who date like young young young women and like oh we have to protect him not her what yeah what
what the fuck do you mean her mom also owns a sex toy shop which i find delightful love it yep
all right we're gonna take another break when we get back we'll get into but are you wrong
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may have forgot is that you can also write in with your own thing to rant about too oh yeah yeah
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reading all right hi Megan and Melissa TLDR my sister is cheating on her girlfriend who happens
to be our cousin wait I am a 26 year old female and my sister Lisa is 23 year old female started
dating our cousin maddie 23 year old female last year yes our cousin they've been justifying it
because we're not actually blood related i don't care however she has been raised as our blood
related cousin since her dad married into the family a very long time ago unfortunately that's
not the main issue lisa and maddie are long distant and haven't seen each other recently
so you can imagine my surprise when lisa showed up to our brother's birthday brunch
with a big old fresh hickey unfortunately the cheating isn't out of character and i usually
know to stay out of it however this time it's family stop although things have changed for
obvious reasons i used to be very close to that side of the family and i feel guilty knowing this
information would i be wrong to tell maddie about this lisa will for sure know it was me who titled
i think these two need to break up by any means necessary i'm so sorry does your whole family
know that you're that there's there's incest brewing because like not a brewing it's already
brewed it's boiled over i i think that like being like i feel guilty knowing this information do
you feel guilty for knowing that does everybody know is everybody okay with this the thing is
a lot of the um older generations don't care because they have also married cousins i can't
i have where do you live that like lesbians or women dating them like quite literally like is
you're so strapped you have to date a cousin and it's also long distance that's even crazier
that's why i say you have to tell because they need to break up by any means necessary
i don't even care if you make up lies lie lie make a whole if you need somebody to write
something for you oh i'm right here without a doubt do you need someone to act i'll say it was
me yeah i'll be like hey i yeah whatever we need to this is horrible and also um i know what you
need to get your sister for christmas or hanukkah or any sort of celebration that is coming up
therapy a gift card to therapy i thought you were gonna say hinge no well i would say what is that
one um or get her you know they have um stipends and incentives for people who move to um alaska
and in certain parts of Alaska that are very rural,
which is also where they're trying to get people to move to.
I do think that similar to like in Norway or Finland,
there's other places that are like,
I don't know why they're cold,
but like very like little populated places
where I think when you have to get like a marriage license
or whatever, you like are required to do a like genealogy
and blood test to see if you're related
because it has been within family so much.
They're not blood related though.
That's the thing.
Well, but I would hope that those at least maybe there'd be more shaming there.
Yeah.
But I'm just saying when you did that, nothing would come back because they're not blood related.
I need people to know that like being a cousin is so cut and dry.
You are cousins or you are not cousins.
And you are sometimes cousins means that you're blood related.
Sometimes it does not mean you're blood related whatsoever.
But you are still fucking cousins.
The same level of cousin.
My God brothers are God brothers.
i would never we are not blood related by any means but those are my godbrothers like no like
that's their parents are my godmother and godfathers we are we are related yeah and then
cousins again doesn't matter second cousin first cousin third cousin removed that is still your
fucking cousin i have my great grandmothers the fact that that is so many so that technically is
my i don't know they made all that was my great-grandmother's cousin so that is still
in my line of that being my cousin too i was here in la at a grocery store and i said that woman
looks like my great my great-grandmother and the fact that i knew and i've never met this woman
before and i went up and we started talking and that was my great-grandmother's first cousin
if I
I don't care
like
that is a lot of cousins removed
but
still look like family
someone told me
because
it is family
in the words of Dominic Toretto
family
yes
and I
if anyone wants to have their day ruined
you should know that Paul Rudd's parents
are in fact second cousins
right
I didn't find out until after
yes
they had already had children
which I'm gonna be
I'm gonna be honest with you
I think that
in the scope of things
it
if you are
blood cousins and had no idea i think that is makes far more sense to me than being raised
socially as cousins not blood related and then fucking dating yep that to me i'm like no no
are you like no i think the socially being raised in that way like i think that is like
psychologically to be attracted to that afterwards is like so much of a bigger fucking issue
than being like oh my god i had no what we had no idea we have never met before what like that's
still like you know don't do that yeah but like there's there's you can plead an aspect of like
i did not know their ignorance there this is like the exact opposite of that and like but the whole
like leaning on the fact like we're not technically blood related is so deeply fucking irrelevant to
me and i did learn when i when people were trying to correct me on like different kinds of cousin
like what i was saying or whatever i literally was like i swear to god that like someone invented
all of these different lines of cousinhood to justify marrying cousins to get confused someone
responded and said um that is actually exactly why they were invented i was like oh and because
they like oh no they made a category of like at what point can you and it was literally just about
like certain aspects of genetics and like it's not zero percent like that they're saying like
okay no it's under a certain amount that they're like well there's less genetic or abnormalities
and all of those things and all of that like we're not talking the actual like social psychological
aspect of it to me is like that's the one that is like you can't test your way out of that that
you need some help for yeah that's no different than your parents uh your biological parents
adopting somebody that's the same age as you and you've been raised as siblings and then y'all
start dating it's the same thing yeah this is like if they were to get married where do people
in the family sit what side of the aisle if you have to if you have to ask that no no they sit in
a big circle and they hold hands and they go this is what our family tree looks like and also i i
would i would throw whatever i can at the wall to make it stick i also would say this feels homophobic
that you're not upset that they're dating
because they're cousins
because they're not,
if they have children in the future,
they at this point in science wise
cannot use both of their like DNA for this.
And I think that's the only reason
why you guys are okay with this as a family.
That like, would you be okay with this
if this was a quote unquote boy girl cousin in this way?
No, but they're not blood related.
No, no, but like explaining it to like a kid,
like I mean, in the sense of like,
yes, like it's not going to have that part.
But like, if you marry,
if you end up with a cousin
and you are not blood related and you have a biological child together with a with sperm and
an egg explaining that to your kid of being like well we're not actually blood related that whole
conversation you do have to bring up that you're like the cousin part is is inevitably going to
come up but if you are not having a child that is biologically both of yours there is no like don't
worry you're not we're not actually blood related and so like to me i would just and it's not a
sound argument i'm just saying throw anything at the wall that sticks like anything that will get
them out yeah that's what i said lie this is crazy break them up you know what you should
the way i find in general that is really helpful to like get people like shake them out
you tell them what they're doing is embarrassing like this is really like this looks really
embarrassing and the other word desperate those are two things that you oh my god but it's long
distance too that's just break that's even more embarrassing and desperate with whoever gave her
a fucking hickey uh-huh also you know what you actually need to do you need to encourage this
cheating yeah you need to encourage it encourage this cheating on her end and then go on the other
side to your cousin and say and tell the the cheating's happening like you have to come at it
from every every angle that you can and also maybe um you could even like pretend to be
you know i'm the person who cheated on but whatever you can just lie make up a fake instagram account
all right next one i can't believe that you said mine's worse
it is melissa i'm not afraid not worse as in the sense of worse than this
but for you personally it's worse melissa you and you couldn't take one for the team she read
them both i hadn't yet this is like a really fucking cruel i'm so scared i think i saw a
word that starts with a t i'm afraid hi megan and melissa i'm 22 year old sophomore in college
i've got these i've got these two friends identical twins we've been a trio since freshman
year this is actually multi-triggering being twins they've always been close but
i can't read this i'm so afraid do you want me to read it no but lately their quote-unquote twin
thing is next level same obscure everything a total shared brain look i get their twin bond
but it feels like it's excluding me their inside twin world leaves me constantly asking for
explanations feeling like an outsider am i wrong for feeling sidelined by their intense twin
connection. The thought of them continuing as this unit while I build a new social life solo
feels lonely. So am I wrong to feel this way? Am I overreacting to their twin closeness? If not,
how do I talk to them about feeling left out without sounding jealous or trying to break them
up? They're twins. How do you break them up? Allergies are rough today. Sorry if I sound off.
And if I'm not wrong and things don't change, how do I even start making new friends in college?
I'm not super outgoing. And the idea of new social circles alone is daunting. But the joy with them
is fading am i wrong for feeling like i need other friends any perspective helps thanks are you in
love with them do you want to be a triplet like i i just there's such a bond that twins have that
you will never be no and objectively i do think i i do think this is crazy that you are like
why are you friends with twins i'm fine with being friends with twins twins as like a whole
not a person who is a twin but like what do you mean that you are the third you are in a trio of
three there are twins and then you and then you're like oh i feel left out yes that is true
like they've known each other their whole lives a whole pre-life they were and you've only known
this since freshman year and you're 22 yeah wait this isn't a year i think you have a crush
there's you will never penetrate this ever unless they are their names aren't here
yeah unless there's like a and you are gabrielle union uh-huh uh-huh this like i i know a lot of
twins grew up with a lot of fucking twins and i don't know and this is why i have an issue with
these kinds of twins because i don't know any twins like this i don't know part twins who are
this close and that's how i know i'm like by the way you don't have to be fucking weird but also
like what ramped up in these last few months that their bond is even more closer what happened by
the way you don't know them for long enough to know like this is out of character for them
what are you talking about you're a sophomore and you met them freshman year like what so to me
I do it too much you have a crush on them and then you realize we can never be together because
they're related this can't happen I I do I'm going to be so honest with you I do not think
this is a friendship jealousy issue because like objectively that is that's crazy you don't oversee
the fact that they are twins and they will always be closer in that way like they're not just
friends do you have siblings do you is have you always longed for siblings and now you're like
I see what they have and that's what I have and that's what I've always wanted and now I want it
with them I mean there's got to be something else there because I'm I was raised I have a brother
but I was raised as an only child so like I did not have a sibling growing up and my like growing
up and through the most pivotal parts of my life my two closest friends were siblings who were not
like not both of them but like they one had a sister who's two years older than us and then
the other friend had a sister who's two years younger than us and so like I was and I was very
close with both of them so like I very much understand like the dynamic of being the only child
in like a with a friend and again same sex same sex friend who has the same sex sibling but like
there was there's no there was no part of me at any point like did i ever
i'm asking this because i'm like do you feel like that way toward if you have siblings do
you feel that way towards your siblings and like i don't have a twin but i have sisters and like
they have their own friends but like nothing's going to break our sisterly bond no matter what
but like i'm not there's no one that's like yearning to come between us in a sisterly like
this is weird yeah this is weird and like i'm sorry you're you're wrong you're wrong and like
i i also say this again only and like if you're an only child only child i i get it and like am
i erasing my brother yeah okay but he's older than you yeah and like you were racing three
times in my life in the same house no and like we are not siblings like we're we don't have that
we never had that relationship we don't have the relationship now like it's just it's i've
literally met him less times than i've met like uncles near my fucking life closer in age with
his children literally like like uh alarmingly um so but i i think that like i understand
if like you don't have a great hug family situation if you are even if you're just an
only child i in general almost all of my friends were not only children because i did gravitate
towards very like you know more happy homes and like uh parents were together all of that kind
of stuff just like in the sense of like houses that were loud and people who had all of that
kind of stuff um and i understand that like in certain life events when things are happening
and you're seeing how like there's like a family unit depicted and you're like oh i don't have like
that'd be so cool to have a sister or they'd be cool to have that or whatever but like as a it's
longing for like a like as a concept it doesn't get it should never get projected onto a specific
like specific people and that's the part that i'm like i just i just don't view this as solely
like i and maybe i'm being ignorant but like i never in my life have had these kinds of feelings
in towards someone that are like quite literally like i can recognize as being deeply fucking
irrational if i don't like have feelings for like if there isn't like another thing in at play here
so like getting irrationally angry when like this girl when the my guy best friend got asked to
prom by this or this girl was gonna ask him to prom and I was like so mad everybody's like why
are you so mad I was like I just think like they're like you like her and he's your friend
like you whatever and I was so and then I realized I had feelings for him but like I've never had
that kind of like visceral reaction to being like I have to change something like I'm not I can't be
friends this person or whatever like why because again this is such a rapidly new friendship
they didn't get closer they've always been this close they will only they will always probably
be this close and also do you like and like even like i i don't want to sound like i'm jealous or
trying to break them up that word choice is crazy to me break up what their genetics like
break up what yeah like kill one of them like what do you mean like tell me how you break up twins
unless again this is like sister fuckers like what how do you what are you trying to do no no
but also like what are you trying to say you're not trying to do like i'm not trying to break
them up what does that mean what's the long game here this is wild it feels like you want to wear
their skin this is might be one of the wildest but in my wrongs that we've had might be number
one i have to say dealing with these feelings at 22 years old and you're also saying you're not
like in your clear mind because you're on allergy medicine or something no i know go to the doctor
like we may need to change medication i'm not i'm really not trying to like be no allergy meds can
fuck you up yes i'm not trying to be playful i'm not joking like maybe let's go totally check this
out and like make did you check the expiration date for those medications how long you've been
feeling this way like uh do you have pmdd like are there any other like things because like this
is with love a totally irrational fucking thought and like there are bits of you that you're
clocking that this is irrational but like you can't let that be at the forefront of your brain
like you are you are squashing that voice in your head that's telling you hey this is fucking
irrational but like it's still there and we can hear it and like we are validating that voice
that this is a fucking insane this is this is just this is this is out this is wild um but like
yeah i've one time i took allergy medication that was uh expired and usually that just means it like
doesn't work as well that's not the case allergy medication i was seeing double i had to go to an
audition i like literally couldn't even stand up straight like i was just swaying i had to call a
friend to drive me to the audition i was wearing thigh high like heeled boots for this fucking
audition thank god it was a comedy i improv so many of so many of those goddamn lines uh and
thankfully they loved me i didn't book it mostly because i was not the right type canonically this
would have been a rachel brasenhan situation um and they thought it was great but like literally
afterwards i was like i feel like i'm on drugs like i don't feel good good and you saying that
you're oh i'm allergic it shouldn't make you feel like that let's let's go get this checked out mama
uh-huh oh yeah we're gonna take a break when we get back we'll get into butter they wrong
all right now we're back for but are they wrong that's when we pick someone from the
real world that we have issues with. And my nomination this week comes from St. Louis Park,
Minnesota. It involves neighbors, a basketball hoop, and what seems like a growing legal battle.
We've got Julia and Fred Ramos on one side of the court and their neighbors, Lily and her husband,
ross and also their two boys who are playing basketball in their own driveway it all started
back in the summer of 2024 when julia ramos reported that the modlings basketball hoop was
too close to their shared property line according to the court records the city actually agreed
initially finding the hoop was indeed too close, which was like an inch. Ms. Ramos mentioned
a couple instances where the basketball rolled onto her property and Ross came onto her land
to retrieve it. And this raised concerns from her saying that she was being bullied and saying that
they were darting in her driveway when she was backing out of out of her garage and so the
Mowglings are trying to be good neighbors they proposed to move the hoop and the city deemed a
new location which was five feet from the property line as sufficient and you'd think that'd be the
end of all that no Julia Ramos challenged the new location arguing it still didn't meet the city's
zoning code she mentioned that while the city thought a basketball hoop needed to be five feet
from the line the actual code specifies that a sport court needs the clearance and here's where
the crux of the issue is a sport court according to the documents includes activity area plus three
feet of surface behind the hoop and this would mean that the basketball hoop to be compliant
should actually be eight feet away from the property line according to Ramos's interpretation
and she also went to a public hearing with the city council and they were hearing her out she
also filed a restraining order which immediately got dropped because they're neighbors and no one
was harassing as she said and she also said that she didn't like when she was in her kitchen
washing dishes that she could see the boys playing basketball i don't want to see me that is weird
that's so weird you're like i don't want to see them close your blinds close the windows why are
you so concerned about children enjoying themselves also the moldlings set a time where
and said they could they would only be outside for 20 minutes so during those 20 minutes you
just happen to be washing your dishes every day you sound like the weirdo to me you sound like
the sound like the fucking street weirdo and now she's suing them and the city
and i don't understand how anybody who lives in a neighborhood thinks that this is okay if you
want to be secluded by yourself not for me hearing the children play outside bring me joy if you that
does not bring you joy go live on a farm somewhere go live in the middle of nowhere don't live in a
a full neighborhood and so didn't they recently move in yes yeah and so like they just moved in
you don't just like move and these are like big houses too yeah like you had money to go somewhere
else and this is where you decided to move also like when you have a house that large i'm never
assuming that there's going to be no children who live in these five bedroom fucking homes yes
i don't think that these are just single like these are single adults or two adults living
together with no kids in houses this large yeah so um and you think that you have to sue the city
over this how evil are you i'm addicted to the fact that they they threw out the um harassment
the one with prejudice which is basically being like stop you fucking loser this is like not real
like you're being like i do at this point i'm like i think you're gonna be i think the town
is gonna be like can you just leave forever like you're pissing off every you're banned from the
town just go i think they're like the town is gonna evict you like you are wasting time coming
to city hall meetings when your defense is i don't like looking at them close your eyes put
up some blinds i don't understand why are you in your kitchen every day at the same time that
these children are out when the i think the mom when she's doing the interview like i will be
honest the first time i heard it she was like she's literally like it starts with like just
her talking and her like voice is shaking and she's like almost crying being like i'm just
like scared for like saving my family and i was like oh my god and then it's her and i was like
oh yeah you have reason to be scared too there's i don't know what's happening with the father but
something where like she's she's scared for his life yeah because she's like i'm scared he i'm
scared they're going to make something and he's going to go to jail like he literally they literally
like made up all of this stuff about him like him like stalking her when in reality it was that one
of the ball like the basketball rolled over there and he grabbed it yes yeah and apparently she is
and i think the reason why she's so worried which i also read is that i don't know that this i don't
know that the woman the neighbor practices in this state but she's a lawyer or was it like was
at some point was a lawyer barred in a certain state which i'm like oh yeah that's cause for
concern and worry leave get out get out scram right now okay okay my turn as my quick pivot
thank god i had a couple of time people really did a lot this week they did i would like to
nominates katie max sorry kate max and max is m-a-c-k-z now this is someone who honestly
surprised i haven't blocked them but uh i've only ever heard of this person like one time in a
stitch or something and that is because i so glad i'm not on run talk i'm not a runner i'm not a
track star unlike someone over here um but she's into the uh long distance kind of okay that's not
so i guess she does interviews with people and being like hey like can like how long is your
how many miles are you running today and like this person says like however many and then she goes
well if you double it i'll buy you a pair of running shoes um i did see some comments people
being like she never bought me the fucking running shoes so i think that's like how she started but
now it's like that fucking guy who is like hey how much you pay for rent in your apartment and
then it's like it's fucking barbara corcoran and she was like oh i own it he's like can i see a
tour and you're like this is just these are pr yeah pr setups so it uh is very much that now at
this point where it's like you scroll through and it is literally just like whitney cummings and uh
uh someone named lauren edelston and try and bella sario adam stewart all of it like whether
they're influencers or actors or whatever they had uh she had patrick schwarzenegger on talking
about like white and he like did all these white lotus bits in it or whatever so she does this and
i guess she's a relatively large and run talk i will say i've never heard of her i know nothing
Not much about her, but I end up on run talk commentary of people talking about this kind of stuff.
And I kind of say I don't think we should be shocked at this point, because so far from what I'm hearing in that community, pretty much everybody's conservative.
Like, you know, and so we're getting to that. So should Gabby Thomas on and then being like, how many miles?
And Gabby's like, I'm a sprinter, but like, you know, we'll do we'll do one.
And she's like, this is hard or whatever. So she does typically keeps like the integrity of the show.
And like, there've been times where she's had people on who are like,
Troy and Bell, sorry, it was with her like very old dog who was like,
can't run this time.
But like, what about a brisk walk?
But it's like, it's very much that it's, you're wearing athletic clothes.
This is the vibe.
You catch them in these certain places and then you like go on a run together.
But for a lot of them, you're, they're quite literally running and microphone talking.
Could never be me.
Don't understand it.
Can't be me either.
So she just posted and then deleted and then posted and then deleted and then posted and
then deleted and then posted.
I think as of now, we are up to five times she has posted and deleted the same video.
What is it?
She interviewed Caroline Leavitt, the United States press secretary.
Oh, I was like, I know that name.
Speaking of people that date old men.
So she goes to the White House.
This Katie Max, Kate Max goes to the fucking White House, interviews her being like, what
run are we going on today?
And it's no miles.
We're just at the beautiful White House.
Let's just walk through and get a tour.
and neither of them
are wearing athletic clothes
for the first time ever.
She has someone on
who's wearing a,
I don't know what this is,
a short sleeve pants suit
and she's wearing,
and fucking Kate is wearing
a goddamn fucking suit jacket.
So her caption from this one,
and I don't know if she's
changed the captions
on all five of them
as she's posted and deleted
the same video over and over again.
From being at the White House
last year and speaking
on a mental health panel
and meeting President Biden
to being back again this year,
thank you for having us
truly surreal to walk
through a place
with so much history and meaning.
And it is fucking crazy as she is quite literally interviewing someone and being like, you know, it's just like such a pleasure.
And she's just fucking gooning like her.
She's like, it's just like such a pleasure to be at the White House.
Like it's just and she had to mention Biden so she can say no matter who it is.
It's such a giving very much that fucking athlete answer.
But no matter who it is, it's a huge honor.
No, it's actually quite literally not.
and you are literally interviewing a 27 year old who is being paid to pathologically lie to the
american public and spread misinformation and propaganda all the while being a bitch who can't
even do fucking makeup if you're gonna have like if it's gonna be like oh she's young and hot
first of all where second of all what the fuck are we doing like and you're as if this is like
a credible part it like literally i'm like if i was anybody the fucking else who had been
interviewed by her i'd be like delete my fucking video and uh speaking of that one of the top
comments on this is uh unpin the tim walls video which is her pinned video and hope walls also
commented that message her and said hey delete the pinned video with my dad so yeah i will say
in general from what i have seen and heard apparently a lot of people on run talk are
like it's a very conservative there's also like one girl who's like famous on run talk who's like
who like dated a high schooler when she was like a teacher there or like something like yeah yeah
I just have to say, um, if the content creators you're following, for some reason, that community
is like very conservative. And I would say that like, if you are a big runner long distance,
specifically, I guess if you're a big runner and like, you're like, Oh, but I love these content
creators. The only ones that have ever popped up on my for you page are being like, hi, I am a
content creator who makes content about running. I'm a long distance runner. I love trans people.
I love gay people. I love women. I voted for like, they're so fucking straightforward with it. And
they're like and if anyone else who you follow on run is not doing this you should know that
they align with this x y and z or whatever and like yeah it turns into like a lot of like pushing
pseudoscience and all this shit and like it's just fucking crazy so yeah fuck that girl
and god imagine just you couldn't pick some like she's deeply representative of
the current state of our political climate but like did you do a full and she has full-length
podcast interviews like do you do a full-length podcast interview with like i know that like we
literally have someone who has a has a worm in their brain and then we have people who have
worms for brains but like any credibility you even had as like an interviewer of like having
engaging conversations nobody want no one's gonna want your like criteria and level you got someone
who is quite literally not intelligent not a good conversationalist not a good communicator
on a platform about connecting and communicating and they also just lie you're not gonna get
anybody else on your show ever again and if you do i'm gonna judge it then she's gonna make that
swift turn she already yeah to only be right-wing propaganda and she's gonna get paid for it so
this is actually gonna work out in her favor yep yep yep yep and i i don't know i got bad vibes
from from the start mostly just because like with love i think if you are a long distance runner
and you can't acknowledge that like you know you're kind of a you're very you you've got
you're you're a lot like it's a it's a it's a big personality trait to be able to run like
you're just a very different they're different built person usually no i mean most people i
know who do long distance running they're like hey i'm incredibly neurotic and like this is the
only thing that helps my nervous system. And I'm just built like that. If you can't acknowledge
that, like, I think most people can acknowledge that that's, that's, you have to be a specific
type of person to be able to do this. And so I think in general, when someone showed like that,
I go, I don't want to see where you go. All right. Well, yeah, this has been a great episode,
TBH. Thank you so much for listening. Please join us tomorrow for see you next Tuesday,
Wednesday. Use that time to catch up on any episode you've missed or listen to your favorite
episode. Thursday, we've got Don't Blame Me. And Friday, we've got Fisting Friday. Then we will
circle back. Goodbye. This is a Sister Sign production hosted by me, Megan Rinks. And me,
Melissa D. Montz, plus Diamond Imprint Productions. Post-production by Coco Lorenz.
Production assistance by Melanie D. Watson. And music by Ryan Hunter and Giacomo Picasso.
