Don't Blame Me! - BAIW: Splitting the Grocery Bill

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Greetings and welcome to a brand new episode of But Am I Wrong, a show where me and Megan question, are we wrong? Spoiler alert, we're not. And we also have three different segments and we'll go over each one of those before we get started with that specific segment hi megan hi melissa how are you today yeah i am pretty good good you got your contacts we didn't do a follow-up on that thinking about that i do have my contacts um i the delivery driver when he came because like it was ended up being a couple days late they did refund me for my overnight shipping which was kind um but the delivery driver he just couldn't find our mailbox but it did feel like in my heart it felt like he knew that i really wanted my contacts because he's like leaning
Starting point is 00:01:07 over our gate and he goes package miss and i was like yes and he was like yay and he was just like literally like no questions he was like happy you're happy and i was like thank god he was like that's why that's why i'm here and i was so excited um and yeah i've got my contacts i can i can see without my glasses and it was i was thinking about it when we were building our bed this weekend that like my god not having contacts for that would have killed me yeah because you had to stretch out it's like what the fuck is going on it's like not like that's like not even my entire wingspan like i have more room to to stretch further i just didn't understand why the why but then you told me it was a an antique yes and so um there was no
Starting point is 00:01:58 bed slats this was like a whole fucking weekend activity because there's no center support so we had to build a center support beam and then the person who sold us this it's kind of like you know a facebook marketplace that there's like a surge i would say of people selling things like from their parents houses that like their parents have downsized and so like they're like i know nothing about this i'm just kind of facilitating and so he just like gave us a bunch of like wood planks that we assumed were which i think he also assumed were the slats for the bed they're not they're just pieces of pieces of wood and slats are totally but just pieces of wood they didn't need dowels to like go in and like lock and it didn't have any of that so then we had to like
Starting point is 00:02:39 build all of this stuff and we use like industrial velcro which is like the most recommended to like secure slats which i was like industrial velcro thank god this wasn't on my shoes as a kid like how the hell do you get that shit off but we now have like a bed and the rug is too small which is fun love that um yeah that would have just been like get an adjustable bed they fit inside my slats are leaning against the wall is it on a box spring no you don't need a box spring you actually can't use a box that's like it's got its own mechanism well thank god that mods can't hear you because he's like damn that's what we should have done i'll send him a text well shall we jump into our first segment we shall all right first up we've got but am i wrong
Starting point is 00:03:29 that's when we pick something from our lives or rant or just something we want to talk about and then you guys vote on if we're wrong in the situation if you like to vote you can go over to our instagram megan and melissa and it'll be on our stories hell yeah am i first you're first okay my hot take um i want to say the origin of this because i have like a note on my phone that says but am i wrong and i must have created another one at some point and had written other things there so it was kind of like a time capsule and some of the takes like why do women like men dressed as pirates is one i'm still trying to unpack my thought process behind it eventually hopefully one day we'll be able to discuss it but i found one that i was like you know what
Starting point is 00:04:16 i actually stand by this and i forgot i forgot that i felt passionately about this and that is justice for raisins raisins get so much hate so much shit on and like in reality raisins are the marshmallows of lucky charms like we're they are the strawberries of special k with strawberry like you so the rate the raisins and raisin bran exactly and you tell me that raisins and raisin bran i go i'm sorry you like lucky charms you like special k and or the honey bunches of oats the bunches of oats like it is fun to have a different little textural surprise something a little sweet and like we love grapes that people are engineering those fucking nasty ass cotton candy grapes well but the second the grape second the grape gets a little dehydrated
Starting point is 00:05:08 we go yuck disgusting gross no justice for those raisins they're fun to eat they're not like i i'm someone like there's certainly dried fruits that like get so like you can't chew them do you know what i mean like no matter what they're like so dehydrated they're so like hard the mangoes which I love the flavor of it, but it hurts my, like, I would love to go ham on a mango dried fruit, but it hurts my teeth.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Yeah. And it gets stuck. But like with raisins, you know, you, they just plump up and then, hey, raisins and cookies,
Starting point is 00:05:43 a delightful little time. I just think that like, we've shit on raisins for so long. And those commercials were always like, I think like relatively wholesome and more specifically, those commercials were always kind of short, which I like really appreciated. and like they come in little boxes like we're all about like nostalgic things right now everyone's
Starting point is 00:06:00 like i want nostalgic halloween you know what you should get you should get a little box of raisins and eat them while you look at that halloween decorations and i just feel like justice for raisins i thought you were gonna say hand them out i was like i draw the line no i draw the line there as well i'm saying they have their time and place maybe that's what happened maybe that like maybe we went to maybe the raisin the department of raisin went too hard that uh we are like experiencing the backlash of that that like maybe like yeah we shouldn't hand them out but like and i love the name and no matter what when i hear the word raisin i just think of new girl and winston like as i live and breathe raisin and they go you know did i say raisin again they're
Starting point is 00:06:43 like yes her name is not raisin and i just love it and i'm just do i have any raisins in my house no but also there's multiple kinds little golden raisins i have raisins you know i love raisins they're fibrous they're sweet they're a nice little treat back in the 80s i think it had to be the 90s because i was too little in the 80s but or they were showing reruns but there's whole cartoon raisins that would come on they were a music group uh they played jazz music i believe love it um and it was it was a big thing like it inspired people to get raisins it might have been sponsored by the raisin council i'm not sure uh i think the cow i think it's actually the california raisin council hold on because they were called the california raisin
Starting point is 00:07:37 maybe they got budget cuts but like i think we need to give them some more money when i typed in the california raisins it comes up as a musical group like they're so committed to the bit yeah yeah so they first appeared in 1986 last appearance in 1994 created by the california raisin advisory board so you know maybe we need to go speak to them about bringing it back they let out albums on warner brothers oh my god i'm addicted to this yes well it's so fun and whimsical we need to get them hooked up with big kale that yeah that late she because she can do she can do anything yeah even um in 1988 they had a single um what does it take to win you love and then also 1988
Starting point is 00:08:32 they re-recorded the I Heard It Through the Grapevine song that I know from Marvin Gaye I think and it was hit the Billboard Hot 100 at number 84 oh my god they were nominated
Starting point is 00:08:48 for a claymation Christmas celebration for the primetime I thought you were going to say a Grammy oh well I mean they were nominated for Emmys yeah as a two hell yeah meet the raisins a primetime emmy nominee and acclamation christmas celebration so wow and i i have i have stronger beliefs than i did when i even started i love the raisins now i'm gonna go out and buy some actually maybe we do have some in 2015 it was announced
Starting point is 00:09:19 that a live action there's not stop calling cgi live action wait that's exactly the opposite of live action but i mean that's what they call all the disney like lion king they say it's a live action and it's not live action that's cgi oh i'm confused yeah that's weird so it was announced that a live action slash cgi reboot of the california races would be produced but then as of 2025 nothing ever came out of the concept and was most likely canceled well yeah that's 10 years later of course yeah maybe they mean it's gonna be like a sonic like it's james marsden and a raisin but they call like i said they call those all the disney reboots live action they're not that also probably deters people from watching it because like that does sound like first of all for
Starting point is 00:10:07 lion king that sounds like animal abuse like they no please don't actually use real animals for an entire movie only about animals yeah so they think beyonce is like they're on all fours Or like how they do it in the Broadway version. Oh my God, like cats? Yeah. But don't put cats on the Broadway version of Lion King. Oh, sorry, you meant the Lion King. I thought you meant like how they do animals on Broadway.
Starting point is 00:10:35 You mean Lion King Broadway. That was my first Broadway show ever. I loved it. I loved it so much. It's so good. Anyways. All right, we're going to take a break. When we get back, we'll get into my bit of my room.
Starting point is 00:10:52 We'll see you next time. with the moments and fandoms that matter most. Learn more at Accenture.com slash Spotify. All right, we're back. Now it's time for mine. Friends, fellow sports enthusiasts, and families, thank you for listening today. I want to talk about something that's been weighing on me
Starting point is 00:11:50 and I believe on many of you as well. It's about our shared passion for sports and the alarming erosion of decorum we've witnessed in recent times. For generations, attending a game has been a treasured pastime. It's a chance to cheer with all our might, to wear our team's colors with pride
Starting point is 00:12:09 and to create unforgettable moments. It's about the collective energy of the crowd, the shared joy of victory and the camaraderie that unites us. but lately these moments are being overshadowed by a growing trend of selfish thoughtless and downright vile behavior consider the recent incident at a baseball game between the phillies and the marlins a man catches a home run ball and in a beautiful display of kindness he gives it to a young boy boy a moment of pure unadulterated joy but this heartwarming scene is instantly
Starting point is 00:12:44 scoured. A woman, and when I say man, it was his son, a woman angered by what she saw was a violation of baseball etiquette confronts them. An ex-account, as the article states, notes that the woman's reaction of chasing him down and taking it from a child also falls on the side of rude. And the man who caught the ball, he jumped over roughly 10 seats, ending up directly in the woman's area but doing so he invaded her space and effectively blocked her chance to catch the ball two adults so consumed by a piece of leather that they forgot the most fundamental rule of sports it's for the kids the hero in the story is the baseball team which after the fact gives the boy a signed bat and a goodie bag providing that a little kindness goes a long way
Starting point is 00:13:38 and then we have the incident at the u.s open where a grown man in a moment that was in the words of reddit user completely disgusting snatches a hat from a young fan the tennis player camille a man who knows the importance of making a child's day was so appalled when he found out what happened that he used the power of the internet to find the boy and give him a new hat that wasn't about a miscatch or a momentary lapse in judgment this was about a man robbing a child of cherished memories and all for his own selfish gain these are not isolated incidents they are symptoms of a larger part problem we're seeing fans engage in behavior that not just is disrespectful but is criminal and deeply inappropriate the recent surge in fans throwing sex toys into the field
Starting point is 00:14:30 or the court particularly during the WNBA WNBA games is a prime example as WNBA guard Sophie Cunningham said stop throwing dildos on the court you're going to hurt one of us it's a shocking lack of respect for the players the game and the very idea of a family-friendly event it's an act of misogyny disguised as a prank and it's completely unacceptable as Slate's Christina catarucci so eloquently put it throwing a i try so hard on job because like they shouldn't do it but like how do you word it not funny i know i'm throwing a piece of penis shaped penetration ready silicone throwing pieces of penis shaped penetration ready silicone at a woman at a woman in her workplace sends a much different message than tossing one at a man and we can't ignore
Starting point is 00:15:30 the most appalling instances fans engaging in sexual acts in the stands of a public stadium a twitter user asked why would you do this at a baseball game is the question we should all be asking so at a baseball game um a man and a woman were well he was fingering her and she was squirming all around enjoying herself and then when he was done he wipes his finger on his pants and it was filmed the people behind them were filming them so uh why are we doing this at a baseball game it's a question we should all be asking it's a brazen disregard for thousands of people around them including children who came to the game to watch sports not to watch you come and it shouldn't be witnessing this public spectacle and so i just want people to have
Starting point is 00:16:24 some decorum stop doing these stupid things stop stealing from children stop fingering people stop throwing dildos and let's have respect for the players in the game thank you wow that that was so wonderfully said i i could not agree with you more i saw a video that like i don't remember i think it was either a dodgers game or a giants game like i remember it being like close and there you know how they'll like uh have like beach balls and like you hit them or whatever and there's like one little girl like you know going to hit it and this old man next to her like spiked it away so she couldn't hit it and like laughed to himself and the dad's like filming his daughter because it's like she's finally gonna get to hit the ball and he like sets it up so like he lifts
Starting point is 00:17:08 it up so she can hit it and it's not like the ball was gonna hit her from another person and the guy saved her dad set it up so she could hit the ball and this other dad just comes in there and then he had two like probably teenage daughters who were just sitting next to him whose like faces immediately fell and were like mortified and he's like giggling to himself and i'm like well you get off on it like this is just such a weird way to like live your life is like having this like no i i want to get to do this thing by the way you look silly this is for kids you're a big are you a big old baby just a big baby that lady too just like screaming embarrassing embarrassing well you're not wrong thanks all right we're gonna take another break
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Starting point is 00:18:41 our form or you send us a message on social with a circumstance situation you found yourself in that you would like to know if you are in the wrong about we also accept your own hot takes and yeah keep it under 300 words it is all anonymous so please use fake names we do want you to tell us how old you are because you have to be over 18 but we need to know how old you are and give us as many details as possible and we'll tell you if you're wrong okay i'm 19 she her a first year at a big state school in oregon if you're at the school that has puddles as the mascot i recently just discovered puddles big fan i've been trying to clean up my eating habits to help with my mood and overall health nothing extreme just more real food and fewer fluorescent
Starting point is 00:19:21 snack foods here's where i might be the villain my three roommates and i do weekly do a weekly grocery run together. They fill the cart with pizza rolls, soda, and family-sized bags of candy. At the checkout, they say, let's just split the total four ways. It's easier. Meanwhile, I'm holding my little basket of veggies and oatmeal thinking, why am I paying for snacks I'm not even going to touch? I already buy my own food separately. Last week, they teased me for being bougie when I said I would rather just pay for my items. I swear I'm not trying to be difficult. I just don't want to fund their junk food mountain. Now I'm wondering if I'm the jerk. They see it as a shared household expense, and I keep pushing back. Am I wrong for refusing to split the bill
Starting point is 00:19:55 when i'm not eating any of it how do i stand my ground without sounding like a self-righteous kale crusader or should i just chill and venmo my share to keep the peace help me figure out if i'm the roommate with the problem here no no like i've never split food with anybody i've lived with that i was wasn't fucking no i've never split split that's exactly what i was gonna say like groceries i've never split groceries with roommates like that if it's like oh hey I'm gonna get I'll get these things you get these but like that's like if we're having a we're having people over for dinner and we're all cooking together but like not like a weekly grocery run no some people don't even like some people are a two percent milk some people are
Starting point is 00:20:38 like there's so many things that you're like I'm actually never going to touch this yeah I don't think you're wrong at all I think it's weird that they want to split food that they know you're not eating and then they're like oh my god you're being bougie and it's like wait i'm eating what i want to eat then add mine into the are you gonna put are you gonna pay for mine too right like that's that's so weird yeah this to me is like not i don't know i will say that like the only way that i think that like there could be like an ounce of you being wrong in this but like it doesn't sound like that from like how you are saying this to us the only way i could think that like you would possibly be in the wrong but like it does not sound like this is like how you're
Starting point is 00:21:20 phrasing it at all because you're like literally being like i'm trying i don't want to sound like a self-righteous like you know health nut is if you were doing that and like that's the only time that i would just be like you know i might give you some shit for it because like if you're being rude about it or you're like judging them but it doesn't sound like you're doing any of that it kind of just sounds like they want you to either pay for the food you're not eating so it makes there's cheaper or co-sign what they're eating and you're making them feel bad about themselves which is not your responsibility and that they want you to pay for it so then it's they feel like that's i don't know a seal of approval or that it's a you're just like that
Starting point is 00:21:59 that's okay then that they're feeling judged yeah if you can if it's possible don't go grocery shopping with them that's a great point because that you have to coordinate that that like feels like it'd actually be quite not the easiest you know you don't have a car they have a car you're all going together but other than that just don't go with them and don't just make sure you don't eat their food if it's necessary i don't know if you have your own room but if you do if you can get like a small refrigerator to put in there do that yeah because i can see that they're they would probably eat your food i do wonder if that or maybe they hate oatmeal but like also if you're getting like produce and stuff that goes bad quicker than their things so like you know are
Starting point is 00:22:43 they going with you because you don't have a car and then they're like okay well now contribute but like if it's like gas money then contribute to gas money but like i think the principle on like if it's like a money thing then like for gas pay for that but i think like the idea that you would pay for food you're not eating is very odd even if you used to eat the food maybe it'll just they need some time to be like oh okay she's really not eating this with us anymore all right but it's only you said this is your first year you've only been in school a few weeks oh wow good fucking point and also on occasion when you do want to do that split that with them or like being like oh this thing looks really good i'm gonna add it to mine that i'm doing you're more than
Starting point is 00:23:27 welcome do you mean like i think that there's a way to or like before parties and stuff just making it clear like we're not paying separately all the time if we're sharing something but like when we're not sharing something you're not wrong at all this is weird stop it now before it gets any more serious now that you bring up this is the first year i'm a little concerned all right next one i'm 24 my best friend and roommate riley also 24 has been tangled up with a guy named Ethan, 26, since college. They were never exclusive, but she fell for him hard. Years ago, he got drunk and sent her cruel texts. They stopped seeing each other for a while, then slid into a friends with benefits thing. She'd drive four hours to visit him, still completely in love.
Starting point is 00:24:19 This spring, she visited him again and came back glowing. A month later, he bailed on this turn to visit and told her he could never love her i thought that was an end but she reached out they started flirting again and he promised to try for real and be better she's been ecstatic and talks about him constantly i this is really hard for me to breathe i'm like cut this out but like i don't know that i can be friends with someone who's like this stupid me either like I would be so I would be so fucking annoyed. Recently, he got drunk and sent her more nasty texts. She said she'd walk if it happened again.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Last week, when she was stressed about school, he told her to go to therapy, which stunk, especially since he clearly needs therapy, too. When she tried to talk, he ignored her all day, then texted that he needed to focus on himself and doesn't know where they stand, even though they're supposed to be official. that night they had a long call and she told me it was all a misunderstanding now she's excited to visit him again this weekend i'm watching her get hurt over and over am i wrong if i step in and tell her i think this relationship is toxic or am i wrong for even considering saying something and should i just keep quiet and let her figure it out you've never told you haven't said something you are wrong because you haven't said something before this has been going on since college and you have never said hey this is toxic oh god you're both are like everybody in the situation
Starting point is 00:26:04 is wrong you should have been told her she should have been left this piece of shit and he should be gone why is she driving four hours for somebody that treats her like shit the dick cannot be that good there's just there's just fundamentally no shot but also like you must have like the the tolerance and patience of like a something that I have never related to like I can I do not understand how like you have like been in the orbit of this for this long and like have been able to maintain a friendship with her no I don't understand unless you used to always date shitty guys too and now you're finally like maturing past that and you're like i don't have a leg to stand on to tell her to stop that i understand but like no get get rid of him and
Starting point is 00:27:00 stop hide her keys hide her phone yeah this can't be like a like hey just like heads up like i i'm a suit i have to assume you've like danced around it or like you have like not shut her down when she's implied things are toxic but like at this point i think you are at a yeah take her keys and being like you need to stop he's like you have to go like going so hard like you need to the shit you need to say needs to be you're picking this relationship with him this horrible thing or you're picking a friendship like this is this is to a level of like this is and again the thing i say that is like the it's the last the last hope the most cutting you have to say this is really embarrassing i love you and this is really embarrassing and also say i'm embarrassed
Starting point is 00:27:47 that i've i'm embarrassed for myself that i've taken this long to say something to you i'm embarrassed that i let it get this far and i've like i have these pent-up feelings that like i've watched you develop stronger feelings for him when like i should have i should have like insisted like earlier on that you deserved so much better than this because i don't know if you saw on tiktok the girl whose boyfriend sorry husband unfortunate um she like forgot her lunch and at work and he packed her dog food and he did it with her sister and they thought it was so funny um i saw a really great take on that from someone who had like left like a horrible marriage and it was like she thinks it's normal because her entire circle tells her it's normal her entire
Starting point is 00:28:29 circle whether they say that it's normal or when she like hints about it they don't pick up they don't say anything about it they like let her get to that place on her own and she's like and i remember like when i like there were people when i finally divorced my husband were like oh my god why would you that he was so great i can't believe that and she's like and then there are people being like thank god finally and she's like why didn't you say something like and then well you know i didn't want to whatever and it's like in order for that behavior to happen there are people who enable and enable and enable whether it's passively or actively but at the end of the day if you hate to see someone being treated like this say that like that's like how you show care
Starting point is 00:29:05 for the people in your life four hours and i don't know where you live but like here that's la but other places that could be a whole other state yeah takes me in northwest arkansas take me to get to dallas that's five hours and so like that's crazy yeah we're in a long distance situationship i'm in arkansas and he's in texas yeah yeah no no no no please stop stop stop stop enabling it and stop her from going and everybody does need therapy but usually the people yet the person yelling that somebody needs to go to therapy also needs to go all right we're gonna take a break and when we get back we'll get into but our day road.
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Starting point is 00:31:32 aura ring i think in general these wearable tracking devices of things um sound like really good in theory i'm always very wary of things that are about optimization because like very quickly that gets to like eugenics and like a lot of these companies that invest in like oh optimize your optimize this optimize that can get into you know selective breeding and all of these sorts of things but aura ring is one that some people have told me to get and i was like it literally does nothing that i need and like i understand that some people have like caught other things for them like that's great it also increased like medical anxiety and like so many people but like it doesn't have metrics that i need or things that i want i'm not i'm uninterested
Starting point is 00:32:18 And in general, I'm quite uninterested in things that require data in a in a way that feels a little Big Brother is watching. So Oura Ring has just announced their partnership with the U.S. Department of Defense. And people are very not happy about it, obviously, like immediate backlash. But they have defended themselves, saying that that the relationship with the Department of Justice is actually, in fact, longstanding. this seemingly has already been going on and we just are finding out about it and they're like don't worry we've already been working with them and the quote from tom hale or aura's chief executive officer said we are proud to expand manufacturing to the united states are committed to empowering the department of defense with technology that prioritizes security and
Starting point is 00:33:09 promotes readiness resilience and effectiveness to support service members in their missions huh that doesn't sound very comforting so they're saying it is totally separate from consumer offerings and none of your data will be used to support military projects which is a very odd odd statement to to make people are not really thinking hey i think you're going to use my data for the military more along the lines of i think you're going to use my data and the government will have access to it i don't think you're using my data to arm the military with my readiness score but then in an email that they sent to mashable aura said that it would never sell rent or share your personal day with any third party without
Starting point is 00:33:51 your express consent and um it's it's exclusively limited to our project support for the u.s service of men and women and um it's working closely with active duty military to determine factors that impact soldier effectiveness advancing military readiness which not comforting and it should not feel comforting to people when you hear that of being like oh no no not me they're just working on optimizing humans to become better killing machines oh okay that makes me feel better so they say unless you're a service member who's enrolled in department of defense health or human performance program that uses aura ring and you have consented to share your data with that program your data will never be shared oh okay for sure don't worry we just have like two separate
Starting point is 00:34:35 folders they just have access to this one and then not this one this one we would we would never do any of that also like who knows what's in the thing that you have to sign up to opt in i mean i know you know if you sit down and read it but a lot of people don't do that most people don't do it and i always question with things like um like tesla or anything that you like buy a product but then the technology updates and advances that I'm like, but you sign terms and conditions for this initial product. And when you have things that update technology wise, it makes the previous versions obsolete.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You like can't keep using that. So I'm like, so then do you buy like a physical ring that you didn't consent to any of those things the last like six times you've updated it. But now if you want to use the heart, if you want to use the physical item that you have, the hardware you have to update has to be a whole new level of terms and conditions
Starting point is 00:35:25 of things that you don't stand for or you don't feel really comfortable about so i think that um yeah then they've got a connection with planteer the software company that works with intelligent agencies uh and defense departments um which which has a presence in israel and the united states and they're it's it is just very very very sticky and icky and all of these like clarifications i feel like i've seen people being like oh okay we we got we got too nervous and it's it's it's gonna be okay now but like in general i think like this idea of like trusting companies who's saying that they're working with these things but don't worry we'll never we'll never let these two things cross don't know these are also the the same companies that have done left everything up
Starting point is 00:36:15 to like automation and ai and think there are not humans for the checks and balances of this and if you have a relationship with the government like the data breaches that happen in general for apps and websites and things that don't have relationships with the government happen all the fucking time like data breaches happen all the time when there might be a data breach and there's a government door to get to that no and especially because a lot of people talk about um using their aura rings during pregnancy or tracking like for their cycles and all of that stuff that this feels like very icky and then just morally and ethically wearing a trackable item that is also being used to make the best soldiers feels like really scary
Starting point is 00:37:01 real life captain america coming yeah there's like the fucking ad on the bottom is it is for peacemaker and i was like yeah literally the whole time i was reading this i was like this feels like it feels like captain america and like you can't be like well i'm not using it for that so therefore you know separating the art from the artist and i'm just like but it's the no and also the money that you're spending is to this company and they're also getting paid by it's just i yeah it's not worth it i don't think at all yeah all right and then mine is toy brim so um this happened in georgia and it's a situation that brings into a sharp focus the complex relationships between domestic policy economic prosperity and international relations
Starting point is 00:37:53 and so i'm talking about the ice rate that happened at the hyundai lg battery plant and the role of local congressional candidate tory branham who instigated all this so the facts as reported are straightforward tory who is a candidate for congress proudly announced that on social media that she tipped off immigration and customs enforcement about alleged workplace violations at a new battery plant under construction. Her stated goal to get rid of what she calls illegals. The results of her tip was an immigration rate that led to the detention of over 475 people. A significant majority of those detained, more than 300 were South Korean nationals so let's take a step back and consider the big picture this battery plant is not just
Starting point is 00:38:49 another factory it's a key component of a massive 12.6 billion dollar investment from hyundai and lg energy solutions in georgia an investment that was poised to create an estimated 8 000 jobs bringing the economic vitality and opportunity to georgia for generations to come this project wasn't just a random act of foreign investment. It was part of a broader strategic economic partnership between the U.S. and South Korea, a close vital ally. This partnership was forged on the promise of mutual benefits with South Korea agreeing to the monumental $350 billion investment in the U.S. in exchange for favorable trade terms. The raid instigated by Tory was for her own personal agenda. She put the entire partnership in jeopardy. The optics are
Starting point is 00:39:46 devastating. The images of armored vehicles and shackled workers were broadcast to the world and they were received with outrage in South Korea. Their government officially expressed concern and regret over the operation. The South Korean government has had to intervene to negotiate the release of its citizens and a charter plane is being arranged to fly them home. The diplomatic fallout is significant and it has sent a chilling message to foreign investors everywhere that even when you make a multi-billion dollar commitment to the United States, your personnel and your investment could be at risk due to local political maneuvers. Tory has attempted to frame her actions as patriotic, as protecting American jobs and
Starting point is 00:40:35 upholding the law, but the claim is unfounded. The very jobs she claims to be protecting, thousands of them, are now in greater peril than ever before. If Hyundai and LG lose confidence in this project, they could decide to pull back on their investment. Who will be responsible for those 8,000 jobs lost? The answer is clear. As a South Korean business publication aptly put, her judgment rings hollow because her actions have actively sabotaged Georgia's long-term prosperity. Furthermore, it has been reported by immigration attorneys that many of the detained South Korean nationals were in the U.S. legally on B-1 business visas. They were not quote-unquote illegals but highly skilled engineers and specialists brought in for essential tasks
Starting point is 00:41:27 that American workers were not yet trained to do. Their presence was crucial for getting the plant up and running. By her actions, Tory has not only disrupted a critical economic project but also demonstrated a profound lack of understanding about the global nature of modern manufacturing and the strategic importance of international partnership this situation is not about is not just about protecting the economic benefits of the country it's about a candidate using a highly charged issue for political gain with complete disregard for the economic and diplomatic consequences this is a walking talking contradiction and conundrum you cannot champion the idea of bringing jobs back to America while simultaneously undermining a multi-billion dollar investment
Starting point is 00:42:18 that was doing exactly that. You cannot claim to be a patriot while damaging a crucial alliance with one of our global partners. The actions taken by Tory Branham were not in the best interest of Georgia or the country. They were short-sighted, they were ill-informed, and they have created a serious geopolitical problem as citizens or people that live in the united states we have the responsibility to look beyond the simplistic slogans and to recognize that true patriotism lies in tranquil and steady dedication to our nation's long prosperity and its place in the world it lies in building not tearing down and tori has not backed away from or apologized for what she did she stands by it yeah her campaign website says that she's her back she's
Starting point is 00:43:11 got a background in psychology yeah she has a degree in psychology and she said that like that has helped her see how the world is and she understands how it's icky it's spooky like it's like i that is you did you're the exact opposite thing of what is supposed to happen in all those years of education so like i am curious like what level of that that she got to like and like trump now being like wants them to stay in the u.s i'm just like contradiction but they yeah but like yeah they should be here because they were training for 8 000 they were training people for 8 000 jobs yeah so what's the plan girl mm-hmm she's standing 10 toes down okay so you did this and so then now how does this
Starting point is 00:44:03 improve how are you doing eight are you doing 16 000 jobs what are you gonna do what was the plan because if this was just a plan all you did was eliminate jobs yeah what's branch two and she has none no she might have won i don't think she's gonna win now because no because also the people whose jobs that like she fucked over her constituents who's gonna vote for you now right it's fucking stupid stupid stupid stupid that's it thank you all for joining us tune in tomorrow for see you next tuesday wednesday you've got a little break thursday you've got don't blame me and friday fisting friday and we'll be back on monday for but am i wrong we will circle back bye
Starting point is 00:45:01 Bye-bye. This is a Sister Sign production hosted by me, Megan Rinks. And me, Melissa D. Montz, plus Diamond Imprint Productions. Post-production by Coco Lorenz. Production assistance by Melanie D. Watson. And music by Ryan Hunter and Giacomo Picasso.

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