Don't Blame Me! - S7E23: Being Accused of Sending Nudes to Brothers-In-Law

Episode Date: May 3, 2021

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towering above other people i've met him channing tatum we have a selfie together that's cute it is cute everybody was like way too nervous to ask him i was like i'll fucking ask him and i was like can i have a picture and he was like yeah i was like good times were had by all um that was also the same day that i met michael b jordan and i was so you should have like everybody's like oh my god you're so chill and i was like yes because channing tatum is not my type and then they met for somebody michael b jordan they're like oh my god i was like he's like thank you so much gives me a hug he gets it he has to get it a lot he has to because he literally like knew what i was trying to say you know whatever yeah let's not talk about it i'm over him i know me too

it's good though yeah now we don't have any tension in our relationship about that we should get to the update we should we should let's let's let's listen to an update this is um an update we gotta do at the same time okay one two three it was season seven episode 10 and i have very loud upstairs neighbors maybe they can hear me right now hopefully um who knows so you guys said that I should write a note and I really like that and the thing is we have a Facebook group like the building so I actually went and found them on Facebook so I could write to them which is I mean then the identity is just out there because Facebook is not private but um before I even got to that it knocked on my door and I was like what the fuck

we're in a pandemic no one knocks on my door and you need to like if to get into the building you have to live here or like visit someone yeah and uh so I know that it's someone from my building yeah uh and I'm like oh I don't know anyone and like oh I'm very not confrontational and anxious so I was just like so nervous about it but I peep out my little hole and I can see that it's just like this very young woman with a mask and I think okay it's fine I open the door I grab my mask and I open the door and uh it's my upstairs neighbor and she says hey um I live upstairs and you're just playing very loud music and I our mouths just for people listening our mouths have dropped and that was I think she I could tell from her like facial expression that she was very

confused with my reaction because I was like what the fuck um and and I just I was just like oh sorry um I'm working from home and and I work with music so so like I listen to a lot of music it's a part of my job to listen to a lot of music um and she's like yeah no no it's fine it's just I have exams and I can just hear your music all the time and I oh I really apologize but I will be listening to music but can you maybe give me like your uh like dates and times for your exams and I'll just make sure that I don't play in in that like time scan and uh and she's like yeah that was great and she gives that to me and because I mean she was nice I was just very surprised because like that was I was about to do that it was unfair bitch you stole my fucking

exactly and just because I was so surprised and I'm very just not very um confrontational I didn't say anything back I wasn't like now we're at the yeah can I just say so I was just like oh I'm I'm sorry and closed the door and like went our ways but then a few days later I just I like I think around 9 p.m um I can hear music and stuff from up there and I can hear there's several people and I'm like oh okay our our like um like curfew is uh is 10 p.m so I'm like I'll just wait it out like maybe they will turn it off at 10 they don't it's so loud and it's getting louder and louder and it's like the you can hear the people get more and more drunk oh they have a full-on party oh my and you're not supposed to be no exactly and I'm like wait

you came to my door with like asking everything I thought you were being responsible but apparently she wasn't so they have a party and I just I think the last people they leave at like four in the morning and I haven't slept and I I'm already very anxious when I sleep and like my boyfriend got me like uh like a weighted blanket and that's really been helping me a lot but is just I didn't sleep at all this night because they were being so loud but then I just I saw this like an as an opportunity to write her um so I write her saying this uh I'm sorry to tell you but I've just had an awful night because you've had a party and I think that's very uh I said I can't control what you do but just in terms of like neighbors it's very inconsiderate and I just

I think you know please don't do that and please respect the curfew and etc and then I continued into actually in general I think you're being very loud and then I send it and she texts me well she writes me back on Facebook saying that her boyfriend was having a few friends over for drinks and I was like oh but it was like a solid it's relevant and it was also it's irrelevant because yeah you're loud shaking like the walls I felt like were falling onto me yeah and it was for six hours yeah exactly it's insane who even parties for that long anymore and um and she's saying uh of course I'm very sorry we will I will talk to him about this and it won't happen again etc and then she comments on my in general uh loud thingy and she says that

um, I think it's just the building. And I mean, I work out every other day. Maybe that's what you hear. And I'm like, no, you don't work out at like 11 PM. Do you, do you really? And I don't think you like scream while you work out. So I don't like, that's just a bad excuse. And she keeps saying like, Oh, but I can hear our upstairs, um, neighbor as well when they do whatever they do and then I just had to throw back at her listen I lived on a different floor so I know that you it's not the building but I just said but thank you for your message and thank you for having me in your thoughts because she did right I will think about this yeah and I can't then I just what could I say I was just like okay that's fine uh but I just had to comment on the building

thing because I know that's not it um then uh because it continues I think oh yeah so there was a thing on Thursday but before Thursday there was another thing and I had already gone to bed and I decided after the first party that I commented on I was like the next time they have a party I can actually just call the police like it's they have they are like it's not allowed like in i'm in copenhagen you can't um have more than five people in your household and all that stuff you can get like a fine and the police they have nothing to do these days so they will come out to private parties and they will just shut it down and give you a fine i just want to just point out this is copenhagen police and not america oh yeah american police also have nothing

to do and so then they decide to kill people yes which is yeah we wish we it could be a little bit more like the the countries who are ranked higher on the happiness scale we're number one you know i know i know yeah so i mean they're chill the police but um but still that would be like i thought i i should do that the next time why didn't i do that uh but then i have i've gone to bed it's like I think it's like two weeks ago or whatever and uh I hear like uh screams from like I think women and I I like run out of my bed because I'm like it's someone I look out my window to the street and like to our big yard and I think someone is like getting hurt but then in my living room I can just hear like the very loud music and like the it was like oh yeah I hate

woo girls as someone who's been a woo girl like you there has to be some self-realization to be like this is awful like maybe they're younger i don't know like i'm uh i'm 27 so like i it's not that i don't have fun but i think they must be younger because yeah that's you woo you woo and you you're you're late teens early 20s like if you're still a woo girl by the time that you're 23 you are a girl who goes to drag you're like a straight girl who goes to drag shows and is a woo girl and that's never never the girl you want to be um not a good no and she is not a girl i want to be but um they just they they're so loud so i decide i was like okay it's i'm gonna try to text her first before i call the police i will message her and i message her hey you're being

so loud and I I can't sleep you've woken me up once again and um she takes me back saying I'll we'll turn down the music it's just she was like we're just three girls having fun and I'm like it sounds like someone is getting killed yeah and I don't care if you're having fun I'm not I have to sleep so uh she says that she will turn down the music and and they will try to be and she says like because of course you should be able to sleep then uh they do turn down the music and they are quiet and I fall asleep and it's all good um and then on Thursday this is the most recent uh moment and uh I think around like seven or whatever it starts to be very loud like someone is like throwing around furniture loud and um I'm I'm getting anxious like it I

get very like uh just on my tippy toes kind of and um so I decide to text her saying hey this is what I've been talking about what's happening right now is is when you're being loud and uh and it's just really annoying and maybe you can think about what you're doing right now and keep it down and she texts me back saying that uh they are changing like the cushions on their couch or whatever cushions don't make noises no but I guess they must be throwing the sofa around or whatever um and uh she continues into like uh commenting on how it's the building and it's just that she can hear her upstairs neighbor and blah blah and then and i just i give up at this point and i just text her back saying okay that's fine but just in the future i

will text you every time like i will if if you're just open to the fact that i will text you and then you will be quiet then let's just leave it at that and when I play music and it's too loud you can text me and it's all good and uh and she's like oh thank you that makes me so happy that you're saying this blah blah and that that's the end of it that's because she doesn't want you to call the cops on her if she has another party which you should the next party I will and also um I have told the like the building uh there's like a board yeah board member thingy and I have told them but it's like it's so hard to throw people out um yeah because we do like the how this work is like I think you would call it co-op kind of situation so we do like own the apartment

but someone owns the building yeah yeah situation um so it's very hard to throw people out it's like a they need like three written notices and a police it's yeah it's a whole thing uh but yeah that's it wow well thank you so much keep us updated because i want to know how this ends um hopefully they leave um yeah thank you so much for giving us um an update thanks for having me super stay well that was the update we hate neighbors be respectful of people you share walls and floors with yeah and ceilings be yeah again be the upstairs neighbor or the downstairs neighbor be the neighbor you wish to see in the world it is not hard to be considerate and think about

those kinds of things yeah even when i lived upstairs in my same complex i'm in now i would be super careful but then i realized that directly below me was just the laundry room so i didn't need a reason to be but I was cautious for like six months yeah and like my neighbors are so loud and the worst but like that doesn't give me free reign to be that back to them like I'm still not going to like vacuum at like 12 p.m or I mean 12 a.m or like do jumping jack like work out at like 10 at night or any or work out really early either so struggle it's a struggle um anything else or should we get into the rest of uh the episode let's just get on in there get into the calls i would be able to give you much more detail if i were ever to have a listener back or anything

like that but the basis is my mother-in-law is a manipulative narcissistic alcoholic just asshole um she she got me really close when um I got together with um my boyfriend and um she we have a child we have a baby um my mother-in-law got me really close she wanted to know all about my childhood with my father, who is an addict, and my mom, who was very sick with hypothyroidism or Graves' disease, and she wanted to know about the abusive relationship that I was in prior to being with my current boyfriend. She has since used literal phrases that I told her that my ex would say to me when we would argue, when he would gaslight me, when he would try and manipulate me, all of that.

Um, she has called me an unfit mother, a terrible mother, terrible person, you know, all this other stuff. She herself was a terrible mother to my boyfriend and his brothers. Um, she was often gone, um, with her 70 year old boyfriend leaving the boys with no money in middle school, um, leaving them all alone. They have PBS called them multiple times, whatever. she basically just has no place to talk about what a parent is and i'm a good fucking parent i'm i'm gonna go ahead and say that um so just this past week she accused me of sending her other son's naked photos um she then said that she has all of these naked photos and this was a statement made in anger because we became upset with her when

she's bailed on us for watching our daughter for some time this weekend um and um my boyfriend is supportive in us stopping our relationship with her for the time being but he was not a mother to her growing up and he is able to see his mother be a good grandmother to his daughter and i don't want him to not have that relationship anymore um he was thinking about death the other day and was just like thinking about you know well what if my mom died and we left on these terms and blah blah blah he is uh he holds a lot of guilt and is a very emotional person which i appreciate um so like i said i i do have more details but i i just need help in navigating yeah you need to call back i have so many questions this is like trivial but like

your his mom is saying that she accused you of sending nudes to his brother and she has photos like show them to me that's what i would say okay show them to me because that like does she act like if she has if she like has gone and if these are photos that you have like sent to your husband like did she go through your phones and then end up getting like how if she has photos how would you've obtained them what did the brother say right about this like where's the rest of the family at his dad at their like at you and then wouldn't be talking to the brother their brother like she's she's obviously lying like no yeah but it's i'm wondering where the innate like where the rest of the family is on this because i think like it is a really nuanced and hard

situation when you like your boyfriend has um or your I think your partner your boyfriend your I don't know I think you didn't I don't think you said you guys were married yeah but like him recognizing that like hey my mom wasn't a good mom like she did a lot of this stuff but I can see that she's like a great grandmother and I like would like to take a new like take have this be a new chapter in our relationship and I don't need her to be a mom to me now I don't need that like there are no expectations um in that relationship I just want her to be a good grandmother she doesn't exist in a vacuum and she still has the like and the only time that those relationships work is when you can take all of somebody and she's actively harming you and

hurting you with saying these things and I'm not saying it's something that you should be able to brush off at all but the only time that having relationships with these kinds of people work is when it is all on their terms and that becomes like she might be like a great grandmother but like she's also like bailing on babysitting all the time like that's not responsible for her at all and she's also saying all of these things that like are really hurtful and like manipulative to you and if i were your boyfriend i think i mean if he's not in therapy i would get in therapy and like talk to someone um and a therapist who specializes and or really like has like a good understanding of narcissistic parents. Because and I always recommend the subreddit like narcissistic

parents and like kids raised by narcissists and all of that kind of stuff. And one of the really hard things that are there is to like learn there is that the only real solution to that is cutting people off. And it's really hard because no one wants to believe that people can't get better or change or do anything like that but they can only do that if they want to and they really like seek help and get help for working on all that stuff and if they don't they are just going to hurt everybody in their path and you either have to be okay with that and accept that or you set up those boundaries and you don't because yeah I think like the whole like well I don't what if we end on these terms here who did that you guys didn't do anything she did like what are you

supposed to do in this situation like if what does she want out of this and if it's like well I want to make sure we end on good terms well how much of that can you control and like if it's if there is something that you guys can control and you can come to an agreement with each other that it's not harming to find a way to have a relationship and that relationship doesn't harm either of you and it only benefits and it's like x y and z and all of that kind of stuff there's only so much that you can control and controlling on whether or not that you have a good relationship with her is 50 percent her and if she doesn't want to and she doesn't like this is the conditions of how like the only way that she wants to have a relationship if it's this

tumultuous then there's literally nothing that you or your boyfriend could do to make it be a good relationship which sucks like it really really sucks but i think yeah i mean i would just i mean i would really recommend therapy because like dealing with like a narcissistic parent is it's really hard especially because you want more for your like grandkid your child or whatever but i will also say that there's absolutely like no kid in that situation regardless of like who they're related to or whatever is going to benefit from two people or someone being around who hates the other person or having there be any of that tension there the benefits don't outweigh the cons in that like that just like fucks with you psychologically it's i think the same logic of

people are like well i don't want to divorce like divorce is really rough for kids and it's like well an unhappy marriage is actually way way way fucking worse um so yeah i don't know what do you think yeah um i mean i i don't have like personal experience yeah um do i um but i do also think like for you for the caller for setting up boundaries with what you tell her because she clearly uses that as a weapon so don't tell her anything um yeah if she you want her just to be there as the grandmother just she's there as grandmother that's it that doesn't mean that you have to spill everything that happens about you because she probably came from like she set it up as being like i'm caring i'm basically your mother-in-law i'm here for you

i'm all like i'm here for you to uh you know talk to or whatever but she just all she does is use that as ammo because she's not getting all the attention that she wants yeah i think also there's like a way to like i don't know i also don't want to put anything negative in your head with like i mean you're you have a baby baby um from what you've said but like there's also something to be said about um as a kid being around adults who don't like each other and whether it's one adult pick up at that on that so easily some especially narcissists they'll talk to kids about that they'll be like i hate this this they're so blah blah blah they like and that puts a lot of um it creates a lot of issues building interpersonal relationships with that person because they don't

know who to trust and you also don't trust your own reality because you have your perception then someone's telling you their opinion and what they think and what and they're telling you what the other person feels and what the other person thinks and the other person is and they're telling you what the other person feels the other person thinks and maybe it's not both like maybe you guys like have like created a really solid boundary like or planning to when like your kid is like when your baby has grown up a little bit more that like you're not going to talk ill of the grandmother at all but she you don't have control if she's not going to do that to like in front of you or like i mean to the kid once the kid gets older any of that stuff

so i think if there's a way for like you we see grandma at like family functions and that's like that's like where the line is kind of drawn and like we don't rely on her for child care because she's not reliable and we don't she doesn't she can see like our baby on our terms and what we're comfortable with and creating those boundaries and if she's not okay with those boundaries then it's either cutting that off or being like having a real sit-down conversation with your boyfriend and being like okay what are we comfortable with and like are you okay if she continues for like the rest of our lives her saying these awful things to me and all of this kind of stuff like are you okay with that but i would really recommend therapy because it also

does sound a little bit like he's trying to recreate the childhood he didn't have and take the animosity and anger he has to his mom and just reframe that as her being a great grandmother and then having all these expectations of that to kind of override his experience with her as a mother and then if that doesn't work that's just actually twice as much disappointment like it's really what if we put expectations on narcissists it's we're the only ones getting hurt so being a narcissistic parent can also translate just i mean narcissistic person and grandparent and all of that kind of stuff yeah yeah i was trying to look up just like some information about dealing with it and i can't find anything in a short book but yeah i mean it's the recommended

is you can't rationalize with a narcissist and like being a narcissist like narcissistic personality disorder or being a malignant narcissist and all that like is a diagnosed thing and um people can go to therapy for that and like really work on it and it's like a very conscious thing to do but it's all there are also people who have like no desire to do that or also then we'll manipulate their therapist and do all of that but if someone is like in the trenches of all of that it's just so so so so draining especially when it is a like an older figure yeah so i would like to i mean i'm very curious about this fucking like picture thing though because like that's either like a downright lie and like you did this for what like

that's what i would and that's the thing i would call her out on stuff like that i would just be like okay show me the pictures show me where um your children have sent you these pictures like why why would they send them to her they would talk to their brother like is everybody else and i don't mean this in a negative way but are they just kind of like enabling like letting her do and say this kind of stuff and they're okay with it and being like okay well we know that this like she's just being her like blah blah blah but that's what i'm i'm so curious about like what the relationship is like with the other brother and like how he relates to her and all of that kind of stuff because yeah there are whole like so easily people could prove to her that she's

lying but are they also kind of coddling that relationship to not push her away right it's hard it's really hard oh all right next one yep hey megan melissa i'm calling in for some roommate advice. I'm going to talk fast because there's a lot of information. So my roommate, let's call her Morgan, is a 21-year-old Capricorn and I'm a 24-year-old Leo. So we found each other online so we didn't know each other prior to moving in together. It started off great but quickly went to shit. My roommate is in her final year of school because she doesn't have a job. She's home basically all day every day since her classes are online. I, on the other hand, graduated a few years ago and work a full-time job. I work 50 to 60 hours a week while she stays home. Morgan first

started complaining that I wasn't pulling my weight around the house and that the house was always filthy. It wasn't. It was almost spotless. I was trying to be considerate, and so after working 12 to 14-hour days, I come home, I clean whatever there is to clean, I go to bed. About a month ago, our elementary school went back to school in person, and she returned to student teach in person. The night before she returned to school, she sat me down and said, look, I can't be a housewife anymore, so you're going to have to start doing some chores. I called her out on this and told her that I have been doing chores and that just because I'm not home all day spotlessly cleaning the entire house every single day doesn't mean I'm not pulling my weight. We put that

argument behind us and moved on. Well, now she is saying it's fully my responsibility to make sure the house is spotless. I was talking to my therapist about my roommate and she thinks my roommate has OCD. As somebody with a psychology degree and somebody working in the psychology field i know ocd is a very real thing and i'm not holding that against her but if she does in fact have ocd she needs to go to therapy and not hold it as somebody else's responsibility to maintain her ocd standards we don't talk much about the cleaning issue anymore but now she has began controlling every other aspect of my life i started ordering hello fresh due to my crazy work schedule and she's mad because the bags of hello fresh meals take up too much space in the

fridge i do keep them on my half of the fridge but she doesn't like that they look so bulky she has also mentioned that she doesn't want my boyfriend staying the night just because he doesn't pay rent i explained to her that he only spends the night one to two nights a week and this is the only time we get to see each other because we both work crazy hours her bitching has started making me feel anxious and on the edge all the time um she recently so she recently visited home over spring break and the night before she came home I had a full-on panic attack because I was worried the house wasn't to her standards. I know I should sit her down and talk to her about how she's affecting my mental health,

but I don't know how to do so. Please help me. How should I confront her and not have a panic attack while doing so? My boyfriend and parents are super concerned about my anxiety being at an all-time high because of her high standards. Love the podcast. Love you. Sorry.

This is shaking my nervous. Bye. This is tough. this is very tough the thing is that there's never going to be any pleasing her like no matter how hard you try it's not gonna make her happy yeah and there's also nothing that like you can say to you know i mean like i think this is a situation that i would just fully just stand your ground until you can move out and like the one thing i will say that i don't think that um i think it's like shitty but i do think that like i think we got the same thing

the boyfriend staying over staying yep that's like that is something where i don't know what state you live in but if someone stays over for it doesn't have to be consecutive but just like for x amount of times during the month they do have to pay rent so you don't really have um like a leg to stand on on that argument like i would it would suck but i would concede on that one and just stay at his place um but then for everything else like with the fridge stuff as long as things are on your side you're keeping your stuff like clean and you're like pulling your like weight or whatever i would just like stand your ground and just be like i'm doing my part you can like do your part like there you go i think if it's um a difference between if if you're like more of

like a tidier and a cleaner and she's more of like a deep cleaner then i think like incorporate both into those things where it's like okay she cleaned the kitchen she deep cleaned the kitchen last last week i will i'll do that this week or whatever like if it helps you to like lay out like sit down with her and be okay let's come up with like what we've like the what like a cleaning like a chores or whatever like a cleaning um to-do list or like what that is and then i will keep up my stuff and then if we want to rotate back and forth each week between doing these deep cleaning things like let's do that or just have that on there so like because i mean i don't think that you're just like picking stuff up and not like washing things and

like sweeping and doing that stuff but like just to kind of cover your bases and like make sure that like she's aware that you're also doing those things. And then other than that, if she brings it up again, we'd just be like, I'm doing my part. I can't, if you want to clean more, you are more than welcome to clean more. But like, this is from our chore chart and what we're doing.

I am keeping up with everything that I am doing. You are more than welcome to do whatever you want. But like, I have just as much rights to my half of the fridge as you do. And if that bothers you, you're more. Great news. The federal EV rebate is back. Eligible customers get up to $5,000 with the federal EVAP rebate on select 2027 Volt and 2026 Equinox EV models. Visit your local Chevrolet dealer today for more details. Then welcome to get another fridge in your room and get a mini,

like another mini fridge. But I'm, I'm not doing anything more or claiming any more territory than you are. Like this is how the split is. But I don't think that that can be, I don't think you can use it as the argument if your boyfriend is staying over a couple times a week yep that's the only thing that i would say everything else this is just how it is and but with the boyfriend yeah that's something that you can't budge on you just have to split it like everything needs to be split and if she wants to do more than her half she can but that doesn't mean you do less than your half yeah but that just needs to be and I think having that conversation about like if her expectation is oh we need to deep clean the house every day you're like I'm going to deep clean the house

I will deep clean once a week if you would like to do more than that you can but like this is what I'm going to do and that's a completely reasonable thing but I would not I mean I don't bring up OCD to her at all and i also would say that like i don't think you necessarily mean that i mean i think you're like pissed off as fuck about this girl i would i would be annoyed as shit too but not mentioning something about how like oh well you're home all day or like you're like you're just a student i have a job and like now she's student teaching and all of that stuff because like it's not a like you can't factor in in order for this i think to survive this until you can get a new lease it needs to be like completely 50 with no well this and this and this and like

making room for like i don't think you guys are going to be able to like make room for each other's like personal life and what that person's going through and all of that i think it really needs to be super black and white so regardless of the fact that she's home all day and you're not in any of that like it's just split 50 50 but that's that's rough but it does sound like you've been there for a while so your lease is hopefully up pretty soon and then spend as much time like spend nights at your boy's like spend time there if you can yeah but i mean if he's spending time but he might be in a different type of situation where he can't have anyone over too yeah that's true i would also just get a copy um of your lease just to have on hand so you can know

when you can like first give notice to moving out so you're staying on top of everything for like the most timely like oh giving three weeks notice or giving two weeks note like whatever that is because depending if you're like in a big apartment complex you can also sometimes like give your um say that people can do showings of like your place and like or virtual stuff and things like that and then sometimes that can also mean you can get a lease early if someone wants that exact unit so but she had to be on the same page with the roommate though yeah yeah and the roommate probably wouldn't want people yeah she's over she's not gonna want people yeah just get a copy of your lease so you're on top of like all of the timelines for

ending that said lease eventually when you can we are going to take a quick break and then we'll be right back and we are back let's get into the rest of the calls Hi, Megan and Melissa. Love the podcast. So I have some interesting situation I want some advice on. So for background, I'm 21 years old. I'm in university, but I've been home for the past year. I live with my mom my younger sister my dad actually passed away when I was five but my mom remarried about two years ago and she was with this guy for about five years prior to that but the past couple years after they got married they've had a lot of problems a lot of it surrounding my younger sister who has a lot of health problems and so there's just been some

strain in their relationship I don't think for other reasons but eventually in November my mom asked him to move out and they had gotten in a really big fight he had said a lot of really mean things that my younger sister and my mom had made that clear to us and we just kind of had not seen him since and then last week on Monday they were supposed they ended up getting divorced and they were going to finalize their divorce on Monday um and then also along with that my mom has been seeing a guy she met through her work for the past couple weeks um and he seems to make really happy i've only met him a few times but he's really nice um and has made her laugh and you know doesn't seem to be adding a lot of stress to her life you know background me and my sister

have never had a super close relationship with our stepdad but he you know we were we had kind of like a cordial relationship up until like the past couple months before he moved out well on easter the guy we've been seeing he stopped over and brought her some easter presents um it was really nice and then he left but then later that night we were having Easter dinner and my ex-stepdad showed up and him and my mom just my mom didn't warn me my sister at all he didn't really address it um they just kind of were acting like nothing was going on and so I thought maybe my mom cut it off with the other guys she's been seeing but I've seen initially been talking on the phone talking a lot so I'm a little confused my mom hasn't really said anything um and my

sister's really upset because my mom told her that our ex said a lot of really terrible things about her so I'm not really sure what to do in this situation I'm not sure if my mom owes us any explanation because we are both adults now my sister is also over the age 18 so any advice on how to navigate this situation would be great thanks so much broad picture parents don't always necessarily owe their kids an explanation about everything but I also think that not everybody every person owes anyone an explanation about everything um and i hate when parents use like oh well you're an adult blah blah blah blah blah and it's like well if i'm an adult and you're an adult like then what let's have some open communication about this but the issue is is

when you when she started this by letting you all know the terrible things that he has said about your sister that then yeah she owes you a fucking explanation like i would be so pissed if i was if i was your sister in that situation and at least like i don't know i'm like fucking at least hide it like are you kidding like yeah i would i for this yes she does owe you an explanation if he hadn't said like terrible stuff about your sister then it would be like you know let her run her you know her bench main main dude side dude i don't know who's who in this new situation this new light so like are they officially divorced though yeah she said they're finalizing the divorce on monday okay but like did they i don't know i mean yeah like what kind

of divorce was this like was this like did they have a mediator or were there lawyers involved like did they like yeah did they just sign the papers again with like a mediator like was it like an amicable super easy split like that or did like you have to go like were they going to court for assets or anything like because that's a good way to tell if they did sign it and like those are appointments like you can't miss like if you miss them you have to reschedule them right it's not like in the movies where you just have the divorce papers and you're like it might be like a stalling technique though oh what i mean what does he what does she want what does he want yeah who owns the house i'll be i mean that's really what usually people do that for so who

owns the house is it in an area that like constantly gets reappraised and will cost more like is there a re like did they did they not i just think that like i also think regardless like if this was an amicable divorce it's pretty fucked up to consider an amicable after he said hurtful things about your sister who is ill and then your mom was hurt enough by it or wanted to hurt like i don't know what to then tell you both and then not probably give them a reason for why they were getting divorced yeah but then you got to follow through on that yeah so she owes both of you and I mean she really owes your sister an explanation but I think if I were you you're only 21 and she's younger than you so she's over 18 so like she's what 19 20 maybe just turned 18 I think you have

a sit-down conversation with her and it's not like what are your intentions with these men I think it's like hey um I would just focus on the stepdad yeah and like you told us he said these things that's incredibly hurtful we're still holding on to that hurt and it's really offensive that like it's seemingly like seemingly you are completely fine and okay with it and he's like now suddenly back here in like our lives showing up on easter and shit and like it's no big deal you didn't even give us a warning because you she knew if she said something to you guys then you would ask questions yeah and then it's like yeah explain just fucking explain yourself like what is this and I think also I would actually you know what I would do before that

I would talk to your sister and see if she wants you to have a conversation with your mom first before she's there and so you can yeah I wouldn't even actually I wouldn't even involve the sister unless she wants to be yeah unless she wants to be but I think this is a conversation that you have questions about so you should be the one asking it yeah let's hop into our next call hi megan and melissa um jumping right into it i am 25 a sagittarius son uh see her pronouns my issue is with a long time best friend we've actually been friends since they're great um we're still really close but i can feel our paths starting to divide and go different ways things like she wants kids i do not she values marriage a lot i think it's cool but whatever

She tends to be pretty judgmental of people straight out the gate. I try to give everybody a chance. Most notably, my issues are where our political beliefs differ. Generally, we agree on the same ideas, but we disagree on how we think they should get done. So same goal, different path to get there. We've talked about this stuff once before and just decided that we disagree on it. And we're both fine with that because, like I said, we agree on the goals. So it's not a huge deal.

But the problem lies in that she keeps bringing that stuff up, seemingly prompting me to agree with her when she knows that I don't. Usually, I'll just ignore it, not respond, or change the subject because she is a textbook Pisces, and I know from experience that confrontation could cause her to absolutely flip out. She's even gone as far as to make fun of someone who just so happens to share the same ideas with me. Make fun of them for their ideas, by the way. And quarantine has not made it better since she's living with people who really disagree with her, and it seems to have made her dig her heels in with the belief that she's right and doesn't care what anyone else says, not to mention the toll that all of that has had on her mental health.

I try to drop hints or gently nudge her to remind her of where I stand, but it doesn't really seem to help at all. So do you ladies have any advice on how I should handle this emotionally taxing, somewhat fading friendship, which I don't necessarily want to fade? that has more than a decade of history or just advice on starting a conversation with a volatile and hurting Pisces. Thank you so much. Bye.

I mean, I think if you describe your friend as volatile, probably not something that somebody you should have in your life. I mean, there's somebody in my life that big picture, we do agree on things. But then when it comes to exactly what you were saying the execution we strongly disagree for me i um bring up facts um but i don't know what side you're on so i don't know if it's gonna help you or not but for me i bring up facts that

counter because this person in my life reads a lot of headlines and doesn't read the articles and i know you're talking about right i'm pretty sure you do yeah okay um and so they read headlines not the articles and so i will go into the details about what actually things are how there's a process for everything how you can't just hot ready yeah hot and just like create a solution there's a process to doing things and so that's how i break it down um for her in all honesty i would have ghosted her a long time ago just but there's just things that are tying us together so i can't um but uh so i think it's just like do you want to you i mean you can you clearly want to continue this friendship relationship but if she's being

volatile to your mental health then uh it might be time to cut the cord yeah i think like this is like a common theme that we get where it's like well i like i want to set these like i want to keep this friendship i want to set these boundaries or whatever but like you you can set the boundaries you can't ensure that she's going to uphold them and respect them so i think like sure in theory you want to remain friends with her but you're it's under the condition that she doesn't talk about this stuff anymore and you guys can agree to disagree on that kind of stuff and move forward but it doesn't sound like she's okay with that. And so I think if you need to have

another conversation with her where it's not a response to something that she said, but it's starting a new conversation and be like, hey, so we've had this talk before and it keeps happening and you do keep bringing this kind of stuff up and it's getting increasingly frustrating for me. And I'm really drawing a hard boundary with like,

I don't wanna talk about this with you anymore. And if you continue to bring this up, like i'm like i love you but i'm not going to be able to move forward this friendship because like if you can you can respect that and like let her like live her life and have her own belief system as much as possible like as much as you can but like if she doesn't do the same for you then what you're doing is fruitless like it's not what's the fucking point then because like she's just not going to respect that at all but i am curious what side you are on of it but i'm glad you gave because i know i'm glad you gave that example because i i was going to be like

curious like i wonder like what it is that would be kept bring like being brought up but that like that does make no yeah i can i can think of a clearer picture now yeah but yeah because i think like if you're on melissa and i side of this like then i think if you want to approach it with facts and then be like okay I'm I'm done and like here's how you can understand like this process more and all of that but if you are on the other side of it then and she's offering you facts and that stuff like I would look into those things and then see where you lie on that and like maybe it I don't know if you've done it before but maybe it is like hearing her out and hearing what she's saying and if the if she's if she's the one who's bringing those facts and receipts and

how legislature works how all of those things work then reading that to have a deeper understanding of that but if then you're the one with that then i think do that same for her and then from there if after one final conversation about it if she can't respect your boundaries then i think you need to be done but again i think someone you call volatile like that's probably that's just probably not the only i mean you listed off things that you have differences in and with the things that you listed those seem like they're things that you can work through in the friendship you know just like opposite things just because one person wants to get married and the other one doesn't that doesn't mean you can't be friends but if it comes down to like your core beliefs

which you guys do have the big picture same ideas of it but she's being volatile i don't think the vol what's the word volatileness i don't know what the word volatility volatility sure i don't know i don't think that that would be the only section of your life that she's being that way in yeah you don't have to coddle her either like if she's being like if she's lashing out and being a it like i'm so anti the whole like well i don't want to and this is also just me because i'm confrontational but like i'm if someone else is not confrontational but like we need to have a confrontation i'm not going to be like oh well you know they really don't really they this really blah blah like if it needs to get done it needs to get fucking done like if it's not going to be

productive because that person is going to shut down then i'll do it in a way that's like over text message over something that like gives that like i'm not gonna like a like in person just be like oh but it has to get done at some point and coddling someone's like feelings about that like you can only you still have to do the thing just do it in a way that you think will be the most comfortable to them not just oh i can't do this at all because they're not gonna respond well then it's like okay well if they're not gonna respond well to criticism or like having conversation about boundaries then like they're not gonna respect your boundaries and then you shouldn't be friends with this person anymore now it's time for don't blame them this is where

a listener will call in with their own advice um to follow up on a previous call that we gave advice on so maybe they have their own personal insight they've been through something similar or they just had some thoughts that we didn't cover or they're just going to tell us you gave perfect advice you're amazing and you're wonderful and you're so pretty which thank you um so this is from season seven episode 20 about the girl who fell in love with her best friend hi megan and melissa i'm calling for i don't blame them for season seven episode 20 about the girl who fell in love with her best friend they were dating she said she loved him and then he broke up with her the next day i have been in that situation before um i had known my friend for about two or three

years we decided to take the plunge and start dating um we dated for a few months and I wrote him a card that basically said looking forward to you know the next year together I hope it's great looking forward to it and he broke up with me a few weeks later saying that he didn't have as deep of feelings as I did for him romantically and it totally crushed me because when he broke of the city, I realized that yeah, I was in love with him. It did hurt friendship for a while. But we had a really long conversation that we did want to stay friends. And we knew that being friends meant that we really did need time and space away from each other. And I basically had to tell him, I need you not to speak to me until I'm ready. That's what we did. And it's hard. And

it's a lot of work. But we have gotten back to being really, really close friends. And, you know, I've known him for five years now, and we could talk about anything, hang out, talk about our relationship, but you really need to give yourself time and space to heal and to find someone who's going to love you back the way that you love them, because otherwise you are just sinking your heart into a situation that's not going to change, and you can't wait around hoping for it to change. That's not really how it works. You're not special.

You're not the exception to the rule. You're more than likely the rule, and that's what I have to tell myself in that situation. And time really does heal all wounds, and then eventually you will meet someone who is going to love you back. So please don't lose hope and love. And maybe one day you can be friends with him again, but not right now. That's just not how it works. So I hope you're doing okay. Megan and Melissa, I love you guys.

You're amazing. you have kept me company during some very long covid jog so yep have a good day bye i'm sorry you're taking long jogs during covid you are doing better you're doing this better than i am way better than me i when i'm working out i'm reminded that like my workouts are just like how much i would have normally been moving in a day anyway so it's really not even doing anything you're so right i will say the only benefit of adhd sometimes i will hyper focus on something that i like have no need to do i'll sit into a puzzle for five hours without moving but more times than not i do get a good amount of steps in the day because i just wander around the house

trying to remember what i was trying to do um but i think that was great i think that was really good tough love advice from someone who's been there in like recent times yeah and it's like essentially what we were saying but she has actual experience with it yeah and you can be a little bit harsher in that of like i also love the the tie to my book title but yeah about the whole like okay i'm not special not the exception to the rule like that kind of stuff like it it's hard to hear but at the same time i think that stuff is also kind of comforting that it's like oh i'm not the only person going like what the fuck am i like i'm sure i'm allowed to be sad but like i i also should realize that like this is not this is so common like so common like everyone else has

already done this too and they're okay so i'll be okay so i think that's a great some great advice now i feel like i have to work out or something that's it for our episode if you would like to call in and be a part of an upcoming one leave us a voicemail at 310-694-0976 and international listeners you can send us an audio message at meganpodcast at gmail.com again we ask that you let us know your pronouns you keep it under three minutes or you'll get cut off you write down practice and you're 18 or over have your parents permission if you want to check out the video version we have it on patreon for a dollar a month and then you can also sign up for our patreon for exclusive live streams we live stream twice a month only five dollars super easy more megan

and melissa it's a good time also follow our instagram by megan and melissa some some fun stuff coming soon and um our own socials buy my book what would you like to promote um just follow me on uh instagram please your personal and your business yeah but like if you're gonna follow one do my personal so you can get to 10k so you can do some swipe ups yeah i'm almost good five hell yeah maybe maybe we'll um don't try maybe if i actually tried and like posted things yeah just i will say the advice i will give you is don't post um about little noz because some careless some some stragglers those that's what sent them well that's what sent them over the edge because like they like hate a lot of people hate followed me but then

i think they were like oh no she's associating herself with satan so then i think they thought oh i can't follow her because now i have ties to satan the demon will jump into me yeah through the phone the demon's in the music video megan watched the music video megan tweeted about the music video she has a demon in her and now it's gonna jump to me if i keep watching yep exactly so spooky i'm pretty sure i mean i reposted from one of the shows that the queer tea show that i executive produce i reposted for that episode and it was about him and he was in the picture so they already know that yeah they that was like i was dying when like people were like telling cammy that they were unfollowing her for posting this shit and she's like where have you been

like what that's the same thing i said to you i was like it's not like you haven't posted like about this stuff in the last few months like even a month before that's like i was i'm like you can't be shocked one of the things that people tell me they're like oh my god it's so like i was i never really had to worry about you because you've like since you were 16 talked about like your political views and that kind of stuff they're like it was nice to not like i always kind of knew it was like there was no shock and surprise and i was like yeah i don't know how some people are shocked and surprised but you know that's them um is there anything else no we didn't talk about your dick pic saga

oh my god should we talk about it why not if you want to leave then leave but then you can leave yeah okay this is wild so on like a couple days no it was the night before i got the vaccine the same day as the taylor swift re-release which like is so offensive that someone would send an unsolicited fake in general but especially on such a special day for me it was just like so rude i get a text and it said i would look on my computer to read it to you exactly but it was from an android so i can't um but it was how rude green ticks i know the audacity and it said um something along the lines of uh it's all in a vlog too but by the time this is out the vlog will definitely be up so watch it for my real-time responses um but it was something along the lines of i'm so

excited to finally meet you tomorrow um i hope you had a good day here's something that will hopefully make it even better and immediately when i saw that it's like a number that i don't recognize and like it's just a lot of words and so my first instinct was like is this one of those joe biden text messages where they're like asking for five dollars because you know they're really long like yes it's like have a hey hello like it doesn't just it's not like text five it's not like a change petition or something like it's pretty formal and then i kept reading it and i was like no and then i get to the end and i was like uh-oh i feel like i know what's coming and then it just vibrates and i'm already on the preview and i just see a veiny shaft and i'm like

it wasn't even that veiny but no so it crops so it just crops so i just see like i see veiny flesh okay and i'm like this is not a forearm like i know what arm this is this is the one between your legs and i was like oh my god and i was like what the fuck look up the number don't have the number and i was like do i respond do i not and uh i'm sure people listening understand this that like there is an element of like i'm someone like i clap back so fucking much like i am so like i will drag you i will like i will bully you like fuck off if this is new news to you then again where have you been where have you been um but there is a difference of like doing that than a man that i don't know and a a man in general like i am gonna be act very differently because

i'm like now i'm worried for my like state like i have to say i want to say something that gets my point across but also like you are someone who is like not caring about consent or anyone else's comfortability so like you also have a lot of red flag there's a lot of other red flags there that leads to like someone that you could be a volatile man that you can be like really vengeful I don't want you to like show up where I live and like murder me so uh Mott's was gone and I was just like waiting for him to get home I show him we I finally he was like don't respond don't respond and I was like well I'm gonna respond but I just was responding with gifts so I then responded with um a jack nicholson gift that said um wrong number wrong person wrong and he's like

this isn't sarah with like three question marks and i just sent back which real housewife is it do you remember which one it was um it's a blonde one remember that doesn't say anything yeah i think it was shannon the door is i believe is who you sit and it just says like no no no no no no no no no and then he responded yes yeah then he responded saying fuck so my follow-up was like this is all in my highlights too if you want to read it verbatim but my highlights were um i said here i can actually just even pull it up but i i said something back where i have what you said okay what did i say you said moral of the story don't send unsolicited dick pics you haven't even met this girl and you're sending her that and because sarah gave you the wrong number

now i have to be subjected to that picture and he said did he respond to that he said you're right i feel like a complete idiot okay so then here's where i'm like wow this is the best it could have ever gone like do i believe this man no no i think like when you send that picture you do not have like that full character arc immediately being like you're right blah blah blah because like again he's never met this girl like it says in his first text message that he has not met her in person um i responded to you with at least he wasn't a dick about it yeah it was a good one it made me laugh um so i'm like already feeling like i'm annoyed as fuck because he's he's just now pandering to me to be like oh you know you're right i'm like okay fuck off like you're no and

the amount of people who are like well well he was really nice maybe like in the and just the amount of like dick pic apologists from women who are like i was like please have higher standards for the men in your life, like, good God, like, this is not, not it. But then someone had a couple people had tweeted me when I had tweeted about this. And they were like, Oh, my God, something similar happened to grace. And I was like, Oh, that's funny. I should ask her about it. But like, I didn't really follow through with that. And then someone else in my DMS had said something along the lines of it. And again, I was just kind of like, in the back of my mind, I should ask grace. But then someone sent just a link to the video with a timestamp and said, Oh, my God,

watch this grace talked about on the podcast and i was like okay so i start watching it's on um one i think it's literally called grace got a dick pic and it's this might get weird with mamrie harp and she like it's a great soundbite of mamrie opening it for the first time but then they start describing the dick and they're talking about how it's like a weirdly framed photo and it's really close up and I was like my senses are tingling like this kind of sounds like it and then Mamrie goes is that an answer is that what an uncircumcised penis looks like and I was like we're talking about the same dick like this sounds this sounds just like it but then Grace said that the area code was from Los Angeles and I was like okay no maybe not but I texted her or

I don't remember if I dm'd her or texted her um but I asked her I was like hey I heard you got a dick pic i watched the clip um i'm wondering if it's like the same because the way that like the the preamble to it too was like had such a great time with you last night like it was similar just cadence and just writing she sends me the fucking screenshot this was like immediately after i got the vaccine so i already have like my microchip running through me 5g like i'm on i'm just like living my best life like my service is peak and she sends it to me that's sarcasm everybody get a vaccine um she sends me a screenshot and it's the same dick exact same picture same fucking picture copy paste and i am losing it like what the fuck what the actual fuck

and so then some people have said online that like people get off being like digital flashers and that like there's no way that this is like there's like really no way that this is a coincidence that great because like not only do grace and i work in the same industry like we also know each other like we're friends we know each other like this is like it's super fucking weird like it's so fucking weird um and uh neither of us were able to reverse search the phone numbers you looked them up and they're apparently like they're brand new numbers so great grace's has been a lot around for a while well by a while i mean since like the earliest notification for it was uh march 11th for hers and they're all her dick pic was a while ago yeah and they're all

every everyone that has reported this number it says dick pic next to it like you can report like if something is safe or not safe and this number is considered not safe and they're all marked for dick pic um and then i searched the one that megan had and that number has no record to it at all so i think that they get new numbers they probably use google or some other service where they can just get a new number and just send it out i just i like have so many questions yeah but like why that's what i don't some people were saying and the stories are different like the stories that he gave both of you are they're different it's the same cadence but they're completely different stories but that's the whole thing that like you can just but like that's the

only way i could tell was just like how they were written but like they're not the same like yeah it's like i'm excited to see you oh i saw you last night like it's just and also like of all of the dick pics that you're gonna use it's that like what i just think get your tickets now for the dog stars it's no surprise how fast civilization can disappear a therapist kill or be killed jacob elordi there are people out there they need our help josh brolin shoot first and inquire afterwards margaret qualley okay tough guy and guy piers arm up the dog stars directed by ridley scott in theaters friday get tickets now it's absolutely fucking wild and i want to figure out who it is but yeah so i guess what all my

people are saying that some people get off as like digital flashers but at the same time like the fact that it's both grace and i it's like either someone who knows us both personally or it's either or it's someone who knows us both in a public sense but that's like it's not random yeah like it's targeted to both of us or whatever but a couple people had messaged me and saying that they had gotten like random dick pics and then i was like can i see the dick and it wasn't the same thing so i'm like that's the part that's so weird like if it was like oh my god it's like 50 other people are sending me like and it's all the same i'm like okay number breach for a website like something like that but the fact that like too much of a coincidence yeah

what a wild wild wild wild time and mots was like you know being innocent he was like afterwards he was like oh dude that dude must be losing his shit sending the dick to the wrong girl and i was like babe he didn't even like test the number to be like hey like it's like a brand new conversation there's no text history there there's like none of that and then once it came out that it was like this and i was like this makes more sense yeah he was like yeah because he was like i just don't know how you messed that up that bad because it was on purpose on purpose that's how just don't send like unless someone asks for one also someone was telling me that they're apparently they're like a catfish ploy and i was like i'm sorry who does that work on how do you watch

catfish megan no but i can't imagine like you sending me an unsolicited i like get unsolicited titty pic like i get that like but i'm sorry you're sending me a picture of your penis and you're expecting that i'm gonna be like tell me more yeah like what well if i get one i will play along and see how far i can take it that's a good call i know i do really kind of want to call the number like star 67 but i think it'll just be disconnected yeah i don't i think they just use it for a month or so and then get another number because that one with grace's it had like stuff from march till april so like it was still being used wow that sounds like a it seems like a lot of work well if you don't have shit else to do or

if it's your thing that you get off on then i will say though as much as it sucks i would much rather get flashed in a text message than in person oh 100 without a doubt like i don't think you should do either at all but like i guess the perk of the pandemic is that like less i haven't seen like a you know a actually no we did that day as we were driving back that's so funny that day of months and i were driving back from um getting our vaccine injection after all of that happened we saw um a naked person cross the street in Hollywood I've seen so many naked people crossing streets in Hollywood it's not even it was the same intersection where I've also seen someone walking a lion no a tiger on a leash and once where I saw um which was probably one of the

greatest interactions I had ever seen and I like wish I could have filmed it because like my hatred of LAPD runs so deep but I love when people are able to fuck with them um and an unsheltered man had uh found a horse somewhere and gotten a horse was on an lapd horse and he was just standing sitting on the side of the um of the uh like in like one of the um camps right there right off of the freeway just sitting on his horse regal fucking game of thrones shit and then the police pulled over we're just like what and he was like what this is amazing he was just like what they were like um and he was like can i help you and i just loved it like i loved it so much i was like this is the this is fantastic this is the greatest thing ever and like the horse was happy the horse

just living their life like and i i drove on by but i was just like i yes please occupy lapd with this so they like come on it was wild but yeah the lion one was like i mean the tiger one was crazy too so far just walking it down the street i question because it's the fucking um the tiger or the uh the horse the horse whatever the tiger i do not understand because it's literally that like so i forgot what fucking street is it called is it so it's right before i am so bad with like street names and everything so it's like what's around it there's like a grocery store on the left but it's like right as you're about to kind of get to the freeway when if you were going to like um if you were going to like burbank or you're going to like any of the studios i know

exactly what you're talking about there's like a ihop or a denny's or something that's next to the grocery store yeah um but you know and you get off the freeway down that side there's like two ramps you're gonna exit for ivy i think it's yeah so right there um so that's also like the entrance for the um the shopping center like the the mall ish type thing that's to the it's on the left if you're going to the freeway it's on the left hand side it's not the entrance it's where the parking is oh i don't know that bowling alley's right there and we're talking about the same place are we okay maybe i don't know i'm pretty sure we are i can ask mods too i can also be incredibly misleading but uh so the street it's like

right before it's like right as you're about to get into hollywood where the um the tiger was that one was baffling to me because like it's not necessarily there's not really a lot of stages there like hollywood has this idea of being like oh hollywood that's where movies are yeah there's really not yeah there's nothing really in hollywood except like high-rise apartment complexes where like like logan paul used to live like that's like it's like it's there's not a lot there it's more of like the touristy stuff there's not really any production stuff in hollywood so i was kind of like where are you going because i'm assuming it's for a shoot or something but they don't have like it's not like on a like i don't it might have been on

a leash but like they didn't have like any like big cages or they didn't have like you know when it's like a crew and it's like massive amount of people or wranglers and all of that like it was just like four people and it was like really casual so i was like convinced they were shooting it for some like facebook fucking video or someone's like stupid like tiktok or yeah some of that shit it might have been in the era of vine when i saw it but i remember being like is that what you're talking about yeah i think it's right on yeah yeah um and i was like what the fuck i just hollywood is so weird so like it was the same cross-section yeah nate yeah i've seen so i've seen at least three dicks just walking down the street right there on highland

but the you know what the best part is they always have the best billboards and always have the latest like um wraps on it's like what tv shows are coming out with all the posters i always find out what's coming out because they do so many so i'm like okay okay it's a good time and they don't have any of the billboards that like people buy yeah i hate those ones i hate it oh oh well what a story i hope you get it someone else um that's not connected to us also received it but has to be somewhat a little connected to grace to know she doesn't know them either someone just told her that they got it so did you follow up is it the same picture same picture i think that's what she said she either was going to or she was going to follow up but the way it's described it's the

same picture what yeah but a person's also in a similar it's not like a completely dissimilar but it's not anyone that she personally knows but it could be someone that knows all three of us yeah i've only ever received three dick pics in my entire life and two have been to my business email address one of them was the beautiful one with the gigam shirt with the unbuttoned bottom of the shirt just sprawled just with a tent a perfect little framing for the penis uh yeah i've never received any other unsolicited dick pics i don't unless i'm blocking it out which is entirely possible it is true it's like someone asked me once if i've ever smoked like a cigarette and i was like i know not sober but if i did it drunk like i would have i don't remember but like

me and my friend from college we both received the same dick pic from a dude that was trying to talk to both of us um but we were like best friends so there's no way that he would have thought that neither one of us would have like we were inseparable and we would call him long banes because his uh hair on his dick looked like you could just swoop it over as a bang so that was our coat name for him did he have straight pubes yes we're like we were like did he straighten this like how did this happen long bangs i in my life have never seen straight pubes i know and that's why it was very memorable i have a full haircut i'm picturing yeah we're just like just swoops just swoops it over it was in the young beaver face at that point of his life when he was like

just coming out the dickhead side bangs that's disgusting yeah wow wow wow wow i wish you still had it it was so long ago that was like when i had an android and like the iphone one was out that's how long ago it was i don't know when that was it seems long ago though i don't know Wow. Okay. That's it for our episode now. If you listened, we hope you enjoyed. And if you did enjoy, I think you'll enjoy something that potentially will be coming up pretty soon. Yeah. We will see you all next time. Goodbye. Goodbye.

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