Don't Blame Me! - S8E6: I Slept with My Lawyer’s Ex-Husband
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hello everybody welcome back to the podcast if you are watching and i mean you'll probably
even be able to tell in just like our spirits so connected physically
we're touching hands your hands are really warm that's because they were like oh in your
they were not in my cooch or in my pants they were between my thighs which also doesn't sound
any better i mean i understand i understand this is our first official podcast where we are
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well we also did have have kind of just also sat here for like 45 minutes and i played you
all of the songs from the playlist songs that excite the white folk
and if someone that grew up around the white folk then i knew a lot of them and as a member of the
white as a white folk what's a single for folk folk you can still say as a white folk i can
why are you saying i'm excited midwestern like folk i don't know
folk folk yeah you did it it's a weird thing i don't want to think about it too much folk
yeah that's fine nope okay okay no i want to say it again i'm done i'm done i'm done um i didn't
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uh well i guess we can get into the first one it's so exciting to be in person i know i'm just
gonna stare at you oh my gosh let's get into the update so i originally called because i had
questions on whether or not i should tell my guy best friend that i still had feelings for him
um after we took a trip um like a solo trip together um and i listened to the call again
before this just to see like what I said and what y'all said and um I ended up like the day that it
came out um and I heard the advice I was like okay I gotta I gotta tell him I gotta do it like
I'm I'm gonna like blow up my life right now and then my I told my friends about it and they're
like okay just like wait it like wait a day see how you feel in the morning like how you feel
about it and so the next day um I still felt the same way I was like I got it I gotta say something
So I took the advice of telling him, but also like saying that I was going to take a break
from the like relationship.
And I really liked that because it made me like, it didn't make me feel as vulnerable.
Like it kind of made me feel empowered because I was like, I'm still like in control of this
situation.
And I don't know what I was expecting, but he took it better than what I was expecting.
He was just like, okay, like I understand, you know, stuff like that.
So the update more of that is, um, so we didn't talk for a couple of weeks. Um, and then I like
muted him off of social media. Um, I took him off of my private Snapchat story. I deleted our text
thread. Like I did everything. And, um, and then he messaged me on the day of my graduation
and just said like, congratulations. Like, I'm so proud of you, all that stuff for like graduating.
and I was like oh thank you like it was really short conversation um and then I moved so I'm
in my own apartment now it looks very cozy so cute thank you thank you um uh yeah in a different
completely different state um and I hadn't talked to him since I since he texted me on my graduation
and then he randomly like sent me money for coffee like a couple days after I moved and I
texted him I was like what is this for he's like I just wanted to let you know that like I'm so
proud of you blah blah blah things like that and so like it's always the conversations that we've
had have been really short but he's initiated it so I I guess that means he's not like freaked out
by me like I guess having a major crush on me or the crush on him since like I was 19 um but I think
now that like I've come away from it and from like the relationship I realized like it was basically
all in my head but like I've been there I've been there yeah I still really care for him and I think
he's a great friend and I do want to like stay friends with him and I think the one thing that
like I romanticized was that I think him as a person is what I would look for in a person as
a relationship but we just like don't click that way which I mean I've had to like come to terms
with before and I guess I still like was harboring some of those feelings um but even though like I
don't know we're still good friends though I guess because he still talks to me so I guess
that's a good sign he's sending you money yeah yeah he sent me money that was so unexpected
so I was like I was like what is going on so I texted him he was like I just want to let you
know that I'm so proud of you and I was like that's really nice damn were you annoyed at all
like when he like because I think you have such a good and it makes sense that like this not that
it was like all in your head or whatever but like you we romanticize people and like he's like the
alternate reality version of the person you would want to end up with and so like you kind of just
put him in that spot for the time being but do you have like I mean I guess you guys are such
good friends you don't have any ick at all now like now that you're gone and separated from the
situation like do you have any ick or it's just like oh full friendship no I don't have any ick
I think right now I don't have any ache.
If I were to like see him in person again, maybe, I don't know.
Or I can just be like, I'm just going to keep my distance just so I don't like fall into
anything again.
But no, I definitely think that like, I still would like to be good friends with him.
And I think we still are good friends.
Like he didn't seem to be angry or like wanted to distance himself or whatever.
But yeah, I just like, I think it was just, it was just the brain.
oh my god what this is a good this is great this is great good result yeah hell yeah did um i have
a question though i think you mentioned that when you guys went on the trip you were acting coupley
you said that right um what was what did you mean by that it was like i don't know it so i thought
about this too because um i think melissa i think you said this it was like if you were to if i were
to switch it out with someone else and go on the trip would it be the same and I feel like for me
it would be different like it'd be a completely different trip but for him if he were to switch
me out with someone else um it would be like the same thing and it was like we weren't like
cuddling or anything but we're always like close like we're because we are we are close so we're
always just like you know like close yeah yeah and then like actually no like glances yeah I
would die i know i would die i'm happy for you and you have like you know new place like new
city like all of that kind of stuff yeah and now like new people to date new crushes oh i love new
crushes me too that's so fun and you're like oh butterflies like are they gonna text me like oh
that's the best part yeah i haven't done that in so long so that's that's what you just graduated
from college right yeah yeah it's new now you're entering into adulthood crushes oh yeah it's fun
i start my job next week so don't crush on anybody at work oh no there's no one too so
that's good okay as someone who did that don't do it don't do it it's stressful yeah yeah they're
all way older or women so okay perfect absolutely perfect well thank you so much for giving the
update um this is great this makes me i feel like we're starting off on such a good foot
smiling thank you of course have a fantastic day and thanks for listening to the podcast and
everything thank you of course y'all are amazing and i love love that makes us happy
have a good one have a good day bye great update love it absolutely love it did not think it would
go this way and then you found out you don't actually like the person that is like that's
that's the real shit that is what happens and that is like the big people always talk about
like what's the biggest issue of or like the pitfalls of like liking a friend it's actually
i don't think it is actually like ruining your friendship if you break up i think the issue is
is think not actually like liking them because like it clouds it so fucking much and then you
also like i feel like when you like someone a lot and you're trying to hide your feelings you're
never your true self around them anyway so you're always like trying to put like your best foot
forth plus trying to flirt but also trying to hide yeah and so you're not going to be yourself
as it is so no yeah as somebody who is really only my very all my serious relationships are
all with people i was friends with first but like yeah it is like fucking weird but i've you know
we've we've all been there where we think we like someone then you tell them she took time which i
i think it's smart i think it is too um and you know you're like i actually don't you're just a
really good friend yeah and it's probably proximity but thankfully he didn't have feelings for her and
then you don't figure out that you don't like them i think he does at that point i don't want
to say it i love keeping that too well she's gonna listen to this now and then be like bitches why
didn't you fucking say that to me because she's in such a good place i don't want to yeah the money
thing yeah it's the money thing also just popping up and checking in i know and like that also what
i was doing going through in my head because i was like i feel like he likes you but at the same
time like i'm like would i do that with my would i find it weird if like my guy friends did that
or i did that too and i would say no but what's the conversation that's right but like if the
conversation wasn't there like i were him i would be like so conscious of everything i'm doing to
like not give the wrong idea and so like i'm like so are you trying to give the hint that you're in
or you maybe just you aren't thinking about that we'll see we will see but she's moved anyway so
yeah cute apartment too yeah we should have asked for a tour should have asked for her pillows
because that couch looked comfortable as fuck oh my and that that the this the the yellowy ones i
love i loved them yeah we should have asked i was gonna ask when the plant was real too
hi my name is melissa um so i am 24 and i got out of a relationship on literally march 5th 2020
so the timing of that we broke up and then went straight into quarantine and i basically didn't
leave my house for a year um so obviously that was a pretty difficult time to be coming out of
a breakup because i couldn't just go out and like hook up with other people and get over him
whatever so it took a really long time for me to finally get over him and you know I thought
forever like I'm never gonna love anybody else um but then finally like a month and a half two
months ago I met this guy on Hinge and he was the first person that I've had any feelings for
since my ex like he clicked immediately he's the first person that I could ever like
see myself dating again since my ex um and things have been going really well between us we're both
vaccinated so you know we've been seeing each other safely etc um and I don't I just have a
big crush I like him a lot but I hate the face that he makes when he comes like he looks this
he's so evil and mean to say but like I hate the face he makes and the sound he makes when he comes
and it makes me like so turned off during sex and I don't know what to do about it because I like
everything about him I really I I like him so much and he's the first person that I felt this
way about in such a long time but I really like the sex in the church got me crazy what do I do
I mean I candidly I think that you probably don't actually like like him this much like
this is like I think this is like an ick and for me when I get an ick I'm out like I don't work
through icks but the other thing is maybe maybe it's the more mature thing to work through an ick
and you just close your eyes and listen to music that was but I was gonna say you can close your
eyes but it's the noises so like have you already i'm taking you haven't got off by this time
because i feel like if you've if you've already gotten off then it doesn't matter
what noise oh yeah because you're already done but if he's taking you out of the moment and you
can't be like you're completely thrown off and like dried up because of the noises that he's
making then that's where the issue comes in i wish we knew the noise in the face because i mean i'm
like that's what he's doing he just turns into like land before time like it's because like i
will say like i've like hooked up with guys like guys or whatever that like it's fun like i can
laugh like not laugh at them but like it doesn't take me out of it or make me like less attracted
to them but it's like hot like oh that's a loud noise or that's like a startling but i would have
to assume it's really bad because like there's no offense if there's any people with penises watching
um there i don't the spectrum of what it is like it if it's like so insane that like it makes you
like so turned off and it's so out of the norm that has to be it has to be awful awful yeah
awful awful awful but i just think that i don't know i think maybe you like like him a lot more
on paper and in theory than you do like practically and because this to me would ruin
all of sex and then you are just friends you know it's coming yeah literally
do you know what i mean though like it seems like no i think maybe because you can really
like someone like you can like them and then they could be bad at sex you know what i mean
or you can like really like someone and they just make weird noises or like you just got
get annoyed because of the way they chew their food but do you still like them you could yeah
like is the sex good that's what i wonder that's i think that's a big part of it that we're missing
like is it is the sex like good enough that it's worth it and it doesn't seem like it is no and
this seems like i get like the you know you get annoyed with your partner like there's certain
things or whatever that you're like oh my gosh stop like gross but that's it's not really that
early on yeah and like anytime that there's like a big ick really early on to me i'm like this might
just be a sign that you're not that into them or like this isn't it and this isn't a like like a
character flaw it's literally the definition of an ick like this isn't hi i don't want you to do
this this is like an unhygienic or problematic thing that you're doing it's i don't like the
sound the sound that you make when you come or the face that you make the face like i said that's
easy i'm picturing it like
you gotta you gotta get it uh explained to the podcast so um think of the spongebob face that
he does where he's like catching butterflies he's like where like the lips are pursed the
tongue is out and curved upwards that's what i'm thinking and you had your head thrown back
well yeah or is it weird if he's like i'm just like in different positions
maybe he just hits it from the back yeah and you put in
i don't know it's the sex worth of noises in the because you can't change that you cannot say
like that's like unless he's like putting on a show you put your hand over his mouth when you
know he's gonna come stuff something what if you're really kinky put a ball gag in his mouth
and then because i don't know what it could be a gutter like it comes from the back of his throat
because then that doesn't help but like if it's something else you know get a little kinky
and unless he's doing something real weird with his eyes that makes it kind of
imagine it's like the eyes are heavily involved and it's a guttural noise i'm like then you're
you gotta put the whole mask on you've seen those like leather masks i die die die die
yeah you just have to decide if this is this is the is the sex worth what's better
the sex or you know i mean like everything else yeah you gotta pick and pick and choose because
it's but yeah it should be like yeah i don't know like that also like kind of ruins it because like
when you get someone off you're like yay great this is hot awesome go me but imagine like the
anticipation of like don't do it um but we would love if you could i mean obviously give us an
update but if you could specifically maybe slide a photo into our dms of you recreating the face
and a voice memo audio message on instagram with uh the noise or sliding to our email anything
please let us know we would love to i know what it is and then we can give everybody an update
oh speaking of email this had nothing to do with this call and i haven't told you about this but
this girl keeps sending us she has this long story talking about how she likes us whatever i didn't
read it because it's like 10 million paragraphs but there's a dick pic in it what and she asked
and she sent it twice because i think she thought i didn't see it the first time and i ignored it
but she sent the exact same email twice and it's not the dick pic no it's a different but i didn't
know there was a dick pic in there and that's not fair that's not fair if dick pics you have to ask
when she showed me that weird dick pic that was sent to her she asked me before she sent it i said
do you want to see the dick pic and you said i would like to yes you have to ask and like i will
say like on instagram people will see dms like um who respond to my dick pic story instagram um
they they filter them so people either say like hey can i like i think i got this similar dick
pic or like something like can i send this to to you or it's already automatically censored in
there and then you give a warning of hot like open at your own if you want but at the same time
that shouldn't be that you gotta yeah you always have to ask no matter what even if it's girl to
girl you still need to ask yeah even if we're both going to be shitting on it like yeah not
literally shitting on but we're both going to be like fuck this dick pic yeah you gotta so i don't
want to i don't care if it's attached to you or not attached to you like we you need some consent
oh gross yeah that is the only other time i've gotten a dick pic besides the time that it
happened before was in my email yeah the one with the with the button the gingham button
you said it was very artful it was he made a little tent with his shirt right around his penis
perfectly it was weird uh well should we uh get on to the next call hi megan and melissa i need
to know if i'm the asshole i was on vacation with my best friends who are married in orlando
on the day we left orlando as i'm in the middle of trying to load the car so that we could head
to my vacation house in pensacola my friend's wife walked off from the car and told me to watch
the child, he began screaming. It is important to note she did not ask me to watch him, she just
told me to, and these kids always start screaming the moment she walks off. It is also important to
note that these kids do not even listen to their parents. So I waited with the screaming kid trying
to keep them calm until she came back, at which point I asked her, why the fuck would you leave
me with them? He's your kid. I apologized for this, however, later on, and she threw a fit saying she
didn't want to hear it upon arriving to Pensacola she acted like a total bitch about being there and
was rude the entire day including screaming about not wanting to be there we stayed one night and
she convinced her husband it was time to leave the trip was supposed to last another six days
and I am unhappy about how she acted both her ending the trip early and her screaming so I
blocked her on Facebook her husband and I are still talking and he is trying to mend things
power she is mad that i blocked her and she feels blameless i feel i may have been more guilty that
morning if i should not have kissed at her however i feel that line was crossed when she was rude to
me in my own home for an entire day and ended the trip early because she was having a temper tantrum
i'd appreciate your guys's thoughts on this thank you goodbye i mean neither of us have kids so i
think this is like a weird like yeah i don't i i i mean but i do have nieces and nephews but like
you don't you why where did she go was my question yeah and how like and it was both of them it was
her and her husband right like where did they go and it doesn't sound like you have kids yeah
and also like the not asking like as somebody who not only babysits but like hey can you watch
him for like my nephew like for like i'm gonna be i'm grabbing him from the car or whatever like
that or family and they still like ask yeah so i just i mean i would have been annoyed if i were
you too and i probably would have like i don't know i think it's also like she put you in a
hard position because if you don't have kids or you're not like well like you're not i don't know
you're not like close with her kids or whatever that if you they're screaming and fighting like
it puts a lot on you to be like what do what do i what am i supposed to do and like it's hard am i
making this worse how old are the kids like whatever all of that kind of stuff how many were
there at least two yeah because i would yeah i would have been annoyed and i think snapping like
i think it's understandable yeah especially if they're screaming yeah it's just you're not the
no you're not the asshole i am just like so confused why that was her reaction do you what
i mean yeah it's like you she didn't hire you for your babysitter you were going you guys were
going to your vacation house i mean just sounds like she was embarrassed and like decided to be
pissed instead of embarrassed i you're i would be pissed i would be so pissed yeah they ruined
like did you have to drive then drive back with them or did you get to stay at your vacation house
and they went back they went however they went yeah that's so weird to me i don't i mean i think
that like you've said that the her husband is your friend specifically of that and like he's
trying to mend it i mean i think that like if she wants to like swallow her pride and like
be okay eventually like fine it doesn't sound like you're holding a massive grudge towards her
it sounds like yeah she just was like ruined your vacation was like shitty when you were there and
so you're like fuck you i don't want to see you on facebook anymore but i mean i think like if i
were you i don't think you're the asshole at all but if i were you i would like ask your friend
like what's you want to maintain the relationship with him what like what should i yeah are we good
right is there anything else i need to do or like we okay from like where this goes forward
weird so weird we are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back
all right well we're back
so sorry we got a little distracted by my new crush yeah and then it as it does it
leaps us into other things that we then have to look up and then suddenly we're looking up
joe biden's behind not his ass
we're looking at the back of joe biden's head yes all right next call
hi so i've been listening i've been listening to your podcast for i think since the beginning and
i'm just now calling for the first time so i'm a little nervous um to start i'm 24 i'm a virgo
so i have notes but i also have adhd so buckle up um a little bit of background i just got out of
a three-year-long abusive relationship at the beginning of december um so since then i've
gotten vaccinated and have been a little bit of a hoe. We love that for me. Also, another,
I guess, detail. I used to work at a law office when I was in college, and that kind of comes
into play in the story. Basically, like a month and a half ago, I got a DUS. I'd never been in
trouble before so i called fed law office um they ended up getting the case dismissed and doing it
for me um that was awesome and then fast forward to like last friday i was out at the bar with
my friends ended up uh seeing a guy like across the way that i thought was super hot
ended up going up and talking to him uh we talked for like i think like three hours like literally
until bar closed. In said conversation, I ended up finding out that he is actually my lawyer's
ex-husband. They have a kid together. They're still in contact. They've been divorced for like
six years because she actually had an affair with another attorney that I worked for
at said law office. Basically, the night ends. I end up hooking up with this guy,
and now that i'm sober i'm kind of freaking out um i really don't want her to find out being that
she just did me a huge favor um also she knows my dad so uh if she were to find out um
that would probably get back to my parents um the guy was 42 and i'm 24 i really don't know
what to do um yeah i'm a little disgusted thanks what does dus stand for oh yeah i was gonna will
you look that up driving under suspension so your license has already been suspended
for what you're driving why would you get a license suspended because it could have been like
you got a ticket and you didn't show up for court it could be a you she could have been
driving drunk and then take out her license taken away and she was driving i mean in some states
you just go straight to jail at that point i guess what i'm wondering is like how what were
they involved the first time that like for the reason why the license was revoked or suspended
i don't know but she also intentionally didn't include the story of it because like i
because i'm like if you if she was driving before and was maybe under the influence before and got
her license taken away and now she's sober and now she is drinking and then hooking up with this guy
and then she gets sober and realizes that she made a mistake i don't i'm just i don't know
based on the information maybe you have a yeah substance problem yeah well because i'm gonna say
that the decision to hook up with a 42 year old man when you are 24 not only is it just a 40 year
old man it's someone who is like not only from like you're like a part of your old workplace
but like the people who have just bailed you out of a really shitty situation that to me is like um
intentionally bringing chaos into your life it is it's fully self-sabotage not but like your
direct lawyer because she said her lawyer who also knows your dad and then he tried to sympathize
with you by telling you that she slept with somebody else i don't buy it even if it happened
he didn't have to share it well that he said it to be a predator against you well he said it to
get yeah he said it to make it more okay like make it to to sell him to be like oh you should
date me it's like the same thing when people who are like in relationship like oh but like we're
gonna break up or like my girlfriend's so mean to me or like my boyfriend's so like blah blah blah
like they create this window to make you feel morally like oh this is this is okay but all of
these things added up to me I'm like this is like a self-inventory time I don't know if you're in
therapy but I would definitely go to therapy I mean I don't know is this lost stuff like
is this done like do you still have work to be done they have they have they finished completed
doing all of this do what I mean like because my question would then be I think they're probably
not done because she said my lawyer like as if this is something that's revolving I don't know
because I think that like you it's really 50 50 chance like if this guy is like a piece of shit
or not even necessarily like he's just like vindictive which it kind of sounds like he is
for saying that stuff about his ex-wife um it sounds there is a high likelihood that he will
tell her and you have to decide would it be better coming from you or him and you also don't have to
say anything and then you can hope that he doesn't say something but like you do run the risk of this
blowing up in your face and like you did know that going into it and that's why i think that
like this is yeah like i said like a self-inventory therapy kind of time because
you saw this chaos it was explained to you and you think you walked headfirst into it yeah
i would i think i would ignore it unless it came up yeah i mean i think without a doubt if like
the case is done you're not working with them anymore i would without a doubt ignore it ignore
him yeah you've got to get a new lawyer i think even if the case isn't done yeah maybe because
now there's like conflict in there i don't know what if that's a problem but yeah this is because
if she's still if she's still your lawyer and she finds out that this happens is she still i don't
know what the type of person that she is but is she still going to be the best person to do the
work for you because maybe she's vindictive i don't mean i she i don't know there's a lot of
shady lawyers out there so i don't know it's odd and i will also say like not to be on not i don't
want to like it sound like i'm downplaying like your worry with this but like i'm so confused why
at any point your dad would find out because he's friends with the and that guy would tell him no
he's friends with the lady lawyer so like what if if something happens and then yeah
she's like your daughter slept with my ex-husband i that would that's insane i would also like if
your dad brought that up to you i would be like this is deaf 100 therapy time because like that
is like i mean if your dad her dad might bring it up because he's concerned for her no that's what
i'm saying like if if it gets to the point where like people are it is getting back to your i would
just assume hopefully that the adults not that you're not an adult but the 40 year old adults
in the situation if it ever got back to your like it's not going to be i don't think of it as like
a gossipy thing like i can't imagine like a friend gossiping to another maybe but like fuck i think
she would say it out of concern yeah because if she's already helped you with the dus
was it would be like adam and she probably like i'm guessing since her dad knows the lawyer she
probably like helped her dad probably helped her get the job at the place oh yeah well because then
my whole thing that boils down to is your fear of your dad finding out i you're right i don't think
the i don't think it would be gossip i think your dad would find out because he'd be concerned like
why if you were standing by your decisions and knowing that you were making like good choices
like you would not you mean like even if you make something that like your parents don't agree with
or whatever but you're like my choice like my whole thing or whatever it sounds like you were
are you worried because you think he will be concerned and like something is up or whatever
yeah i'm concerned for her me too this is i think you can have the whole phase
but you should be doing it with a sound mind well hoe and hoe safely and this doesn't this
is not hoeing safely not even just like physical safety but like for your mental health and all of
this stuff like you are picking and choosing a 42 year old man should never be sleeping with
24 year olds that's not on you at all but the thing that made that is concerning to me is
that these personal connections there and you knew that they were there and they pose a massive risk
so this is yeah this is this is not how like a hoe face goes and you said you like pretty
recently december ended the three-year abusive relationship and i don't know if you're in
therapy but if this has been sometimes people who like go through like really rough stuff like i
mean i even find that with like things that feel quote-unquote more mundane i'm like i don't my
favorite like whatever but we talk about more if you're not talking to your therapist about this
if you do have a therapist like you really should because this is not this is not something you
should be taking lightly at all because i think that they're you're okaying the whole phase by
also drinking on top of it which if you're like she said you need to hold safely and
you should be more of a sound mind while doing this and you i don't think that you should like
the little alcohol is okay but if you're drunk enough where you're making a decision that you
wouldn't have made sober then you need to re-evaluate how you are going through your
hopeless so i think that therapy if you're not already in therapy talking about this three-year
long abusive relationship you're in and then other ways that you've been coping since then
then these are discussions that you should be having with your therapist yeah because it is
not any time that there's like a massive like i mean this is the power dynamic this man should
have never slept with you and it's not on it's not on you in that sense but like there is
some responsibility there is some again like the self-inventory that it's like
you know not to make light of it but like you know in those movies where it's like record scratch
how did i end up here and it's like in these situations where um your decision making
is impaired and that can be like alcohol it can be trauma it can just be like a bunch of other
things that are like playing a part in all of that and it can just lead to some like this
specifically is like a really intentionally risky situation especially with your future and like
what this could be and subconsciously i think that you wanted that and maybe subconsciously
like you're not doing well and your parents think that you're doing fine like maybe subconsciously
you are trying to create some chaos in your life because you don't feel comfortable opening up to
people that you're not doing super great and you need i don't i hate to use the term like a cry
for help or whatever because that sounds really thought out and intentional but um it could be
an unintentional part yeah like something in in the sense that like you you are not doing great
and you don't know how you don't know that and so you're making these decisions that will
inevitably cause all of this risk and harm which also is again the cycle of trauma of like putting
yourself in things that will inevitably blow up in your face because it's like what you think you
deserve or like what you're used all of that kind of stuff but this is like and especially like i
cannot stress this enough if the reason why your license was suspended was anything related
to uh alcohol or drugs or substance abuse or anything like that you said you were at a bar
with a friend tell a friend if you're not comfortable attending like a meeting or having
like like talk to your friends and have them be aware of that kind of thing and even if it's just
like mental health wise if you're going through something like make sure that you tell somebody
someone that you trust that's going because it could be a friend that also makes bad decisions
yeah where was your friend probably making another hooking up with his friend
yeah and i'm all for a hoe phase and i will reiterate till the end of time
um do not sleep with men twice your age for free like especially if they're connected
people that are helping you get out of a law and even then i wouldn't don't even do it for money
yeah because that seems illegal well i hope that you are not angry with us
for the tough love yeah i'm just concerned yeah hi guys um i'm calling in because i am currently
in a relationship with a guy who is a very, I guess I'm just going to say moody guy.
I love him a lot, but I'm a very anxious person, and I'm the kind of person who,
if anyone's in a bad mood, I want to try to fix it.
And as much fun as I have with this guy most of the time, when he is in a bad mood,
I find myself constantly trying to fix it to the point where I am just not being kind to myself about it.
And my advice, the advice I need is, is this a relationship that I should just end?
Or is this a relationship that I should continue to pursue while working on my own issues with taking his mood swings personally and, I guess, internalizing them to make them about me when it's really nothing to do with me a lot of the time.
So, I don't know.
I just need some advice.
I'm not sure what to do.
I have friends telling me I need to break up with him.
they think he's a jerk but i don't think he's a jerk i think he's just moody i don't know i don't
know if this is normal or not anyway um i would just love some advice on that thank y'all so much
in advance bye until you said your friends think he's a jerk i i think two things can be
happening at the same time he can be moody and he can also be a jerk and just because you're
working on your own issues doesn't mean that you need to work on his issues too yeah so
mox is a fixer like the definition of a fixer and this is something that like we have we work on all
the time in therapy and this is something that we've gotten a lot um better with that like
he is someone not in the sense that like it takes on i mean we both are like we both are very i take
on other people's moods and I will feel like really want to like cheer them up or whatever
but he's specifically like we've talked this before like he's a game plan fix this how can
we do this and that and the beginning of this call made me kind of think that that's what this
was going to be and I was like well from his side as someone like when I'm in like a bad mood or
I'm feeling shitty like having someone try and fix it isn't helpful to me and can be really
frustrating and then I can get irritable with that person but like there is communication there and
Like Mott's knows that this is not what I,
it's helpful for me.
But now that you've said that your friends
think he's a jerk and now think,
now knowing that your specific word choice with moody
makes me think he's an asshole.
Yeah, it makes me think he's an asshole.
And I also think that you think
because you're in therapy
and you're working on yourself
that you deserve to be with somebody
that isn't great.
you know like it's practice like oh great perfect time to practice and also like i'm not great so
he doesn't have to be great yeah no that makes sense yeah yeah this is
is this relationship serving you do you enjoy being in the relationship
and once you're you've worked through your own
issues do you think you're still going to want to be with it
and is he actively working on himself yeah because like
yeah i guess i think the word choice of moody now that you can be in a bad i wouldn't call
someone who's in a bad mood a moody person i also wouldn't call someone who's like
depressed moody yeah moody is a temporary state and moody is like
it's like what uh like a fucking like disgruntled boomer describes their teenager as as a personal
attack yes like moody moody feels not that i'm saying that like you're doing anything wrong at
all but like this might be fucking with your head because like moody does feel personal like moody
is kind of like it's like it's like the the like the um more lethargic version of like snappy like
yeah it's it does feel like a response and I wonder if you feel like this is something like
you said that you I mean you've been working on but this is like a like a problem that you've had
and that you're interpreting this as oh this is this is a great practice for me and this is
something that I really need to work through and this actually isn't that and he is just a jerk
but you're seeing it because you're working on yourself through that like lens so yeah i think
also just because you didn't give us like any details of like the communication you've had
with him about this and like conversations makes me think that he is a if your friend if all your
friends see it it's for me it's like i'm working on myself so it's okay for him to be like that
yeah and unless there's like some serious communication between you and him that you
haven't like disclosed in the call i feel like you would have disclosed it if it like was there
but if it's like a sulking i'm moody i'm doing my own thing like i don't want to talk about it
there's no like boundaries of like hey i'm feeling depressed and like this is like what
like i need some space and like blah blah blah if you are able if you are still getting in your head
and being really anxious about like oh is this my fault blah blah it sounds like you're having
this entire dialogue with yourself and not him and if he can visibly see that you are like getting
anxious or upset or something like that and he's just like okay cool i just don't think he cares
yeah yeah does he support you not i'm not talking about like financially i'm just talking about
support you as a partner okay now it is time for don't blame them this is where a listener will
call in and give their own advice on um a call that we have previously had on episodes and maybe
they have personal experience maybe they heard something or thought of something that we didn't
or maybe they like us love the sound of their own voice and their own opinions no shame no shame at
all this person gives all the details in their call um then so i'll just play it hi i'm calling
in with a don't blame them this is for season eight episode four this is the girl who found out
her friend lied about getting covid tested so i'm gonna state this first off i am also
non-confrontational unless i need to be and i am the friend that like people send me things to make
sure they're not being a bitch so when i say this girl is not your friend she's not your fucking
friend. This girl put your health, her health, and the health of all of your other friends in
jeopardy. She does not respect you. She does not respect your friends. She does not respect your
friendship. If you need to keep this friendship for whatever reason, you still need to tell her
that she fucked up and what she did is not acceptable. I don't care if it's a political
issue. This is just basic human respect. If you need to get your other friends that went on the
trip to support you do that but you need to fucking tell her and you need to like you need
to make her understand that what she did put all of your health in like your lives in jeopardy
just because she couldn't be bothered to go get a fucking test it's it's bullshit that's all I
have to say on this hope y'all have a great rest of your day bye I love when non-confrontational
people like have their thing or the have like the their um their threshold and then they snap
i love that shit i do too i think she was spot on with everything she said
and that actually brings me to a review that someone left for us
toxic this is in direct response to this call i hate everybody with that name
i mean this is public so you can say it
so we had i usually do not like to read negative reviews but i think this is called for just
because you don't owe being nice to anyone when they're putting your health at risk you don't
owe nice to anyone point blank yeah point blank but especially at their point so someone left
and i think this is something that we can all like learn from they left a review do you think
this is from yeah because we said that i said i don't know how to be nice yeah so you think this
is this one is in response to this call okay so they're saying taking pride in being mean this
was i said that in when we did the call so this toxic advice i used to be a huge fan of this
podcast but the advice has really taken a turn from what it was it encourages toxic behavior
and vilifies the person the caller's story question is centered around sad to hear the
host taking pride in being mean and bullying others so when the call came through i had said
because the original caller said um i want to still be nice when i confront her and i had said
we're not the nice people to be calling i usually have one of my sisters read like emails when i'm
supposed to be nice to someone so i feel like this is the direct yeah no you're right you don't
You never, oh, being, this, we didn't give toxic advice.
The girl literally put everyone's health in jeopardy.
And also, that's not even the caller.
No.
Like, why, and that's the always thing I'm like,
okay, you heard yourself in the caller's friend
and you are upset about that
because you don't want, when you inevitably have
or will do that to somebody else,
you don't, you want to be met with sunshine and rainbows.
Like, you don't want that.
Yeah, I'm dying.
encourages toxic behavior this is not call her daddy no and we're not if someone is putting your
health at risk you don't owe them anything you called it and it's not even about calling someone
out it's about calling them in yeah you call someone in when they're in the wrong and you're
telling them this was wrong you shouldn't have done this period i hate when people police reactions
because i'm like if you wanted to ensure that there was going to be like if you want to be
able to control the reaction and make sure there's all pleasantries and all of that stuff
then you shouldn't have done that like i'm allowed to react however i choose to this thing that you
have done or said or whatever and being like aghast or like oh my gosh too far with the reaction
you can't control my reaction but you can control the shit that you do yeah point blank yeah and i
mean for the taking pride in being mean and bullying i always get people that's why i had
put it in my twitter bio where i said we'll bully you there are there are bullying exists
without a doubt as somebody who got bullied and like dropped out of college all of that kind of
stuff there is it reminds me a lot of the cancel culture uh argument or whatever of like bullying
again in response to other people's actions and the shit that they've done that it suddenly
becomes a personal attack as if what they did was not a personal attack and that shit always
pisses me off because i'm like yeah if you're bullying like yeah kicking a kid while they're
down doing anything like that but like how you respond and react to someone who's done something
problematic or dangerous or fucking hurtful or anything like that that is that is by design
not bullying yep yep it doesn't bother it doesn't bother me that's the other thing i'm like i just
think that a lot of people think that you especially women think that you have to be nice
to get your point across and you need to be respectful for people even though they disrespected
you no i'm like you it's disrespecting yourself if you go there and you take a different attitude
than they have you know it it's just it's such a it's so fucked because like it is that person
deserves to treat i deserve to be treated like that by this person the person who is like saying
some nasty shit or doing some stupid shit getting offended when someone reacts away it's like i can
treat you like that but you can't treat me like that and i'm like you created the energy dish it
right back right absolutely right back and again yeah i just i hate this whole like i don't know
crying bullying and um like all of this kind of shit because like it's if someone does something
fucked up and they and you tell them like tell me what the right way to say it is without
backtracking like what do you think it should be or being like well don't stoop i also hate that
don't stoop to that person's level and i'm like if you're gonna be an asshole to me i don't have
to be an asshole to you if that's not something that serves you or not what makes you feel right
situation or it's not how you would want to react like don't censor or like water down your reaction
to be more tolerable to them i'm not michelle obama if they go low i'm going to the fucking
gutter have you seen that tiktok there's like one guy who says that he was like i'm so sorry
michelle obama but when they go low i do not go high i go low i go six feet under i go it was like
all of that was like that is me yeah yeah and that's my prerogative here michelle obama go
listen to her podcast with fully which i love her and i listen to her too but like the world
needs everyone yeah that's not who i am and also we're like not mean i mean if you ask people who
i've been mean to i'm gonna be mean to somebody because they were mean to me yeah i'm not just
gonna go out of my way to be mean to someone no unless i was in middle school and that's because
i was a cunt but like you've grown up i oh thank god thankfully a lot of therapy but yeah like this
yeah i just i mean this get don't even get me started this gets me on the whole
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