Don't Blame Me! - Save a Cowgirl, Ride a Horse (Our Thanksgiving Special)

Episode Date: November 24, 2022

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i love that when i walked in you said or you walked in because i actually was here before you were you were like wow you smell good and um i need to shower so badly what did you i spray perfume on my body because i really need to fucking shower um i was wondering how you got here so fast because when you said you were still posting stuff and i knew you hadn't showered yet and i was like bitch and there's no fucking way i'm showering in the morning there's no way i can like i would get here and then i would be like mons you have to pick me up like because it wipes me out which is why i like to do at night because i also have such a hard time sleeping even though i'm constantly tired but uh i was gonna do it yesterday and i don't

want to give too much away because it's going to be heavily featured in my next vlog but we had at least one roommate as far as we know move in so we spent a lot of oh the rat yeah four-legged friend i saw the picture and dude we spent out like we spent so much time like first it was like we like barbed like we had this like extra like um chicken wire thing that we like were trying to put in the like the the gap turns out it's not like a small little hole turns out this whole fucking time we've had like a massive fucking hole and it's like oh this is the pitfalls of being tall fully missed it like i needed to get on like tits to the ground to see it that's unfortunate uh-huh so we did that and then that didn't work and then we started just stuffing it

with all of our towels that we are going to cut old towels that we're going to cut into rags and then i'd go through and secure everything and then taking all of the dumbbells out of the garage and then weighing all of that down and we set up our ring camera to be a rat cam and took a lot of time so i didn't shower and then i started having a weird allergic reaction which i wasn't sure what it was too maybe from lying on the ground no and that's what because vance was asking he was like because it wasn't like on one side of my face but i was like it has to be dust somewhere because like my ears are like on fire and red and my face was just like on fire and red so well well that sounds fun it was so i'm so excited to shower tonight i am so looking forward to it i really

hope i do it well you look showered and that's what counts and you smell showered it is what counts yeah like you're only to me i'm not like touching you or anything i'm not sticky i mean you still have dirt on you i don't know i'm a really weird sensation person no i mean like you literally like you can't escape it it's just natural no no my daytime dead skin dirt think that type of thing i'm like the uh sweat even if you don't realize you're sweating oh i realize oh yeah you've yeah in addition so i'm just saying like no but you have all that i'm like that little dusty cloud from um that cartoon charlie brown there you go the peanuts well all of that um aside don't you love that intro welcome to but am i wrong starring two

people who have not once ever been wrong happy thanksgiving is it thanksgiving yeah hmm yes christopher columbus was that him no i mean he gets attributed to a lot of things who did the they just say the pilgrims oh yeah that's your people no i know half of my people yeah i'm sorry don't get twisted i'm sorry your black irish side of i'm sorry i apologize lowercase b let's clarify it's lowercase b and who is working what is joe biden's plan on reclassifying the black irish when there are literally black people who live in ireland yep maybe we should just call them the sandy cohen i don't include me in this this is your people my people maybe we should refer to ourselves as sandy cohen's but to me i don't even think that he's actually black irish

i think he is didn't we look this up no i think that the whole point was that he is like the reference for it and he's not what's his real name i typed in sandy i don't know also him as his dad new girl wait he plays his dad he plays a schmidt's dad yes i always get confused with him and then the older guy that work that's like the dad at jess's school who she dates jace jess has no type no she doesn't i also can't believe that they like really he's irish yeah oh okay so i think we like i think my people we need i don't know who's gonna make this put this on what ballot because you know this man's overseas that we need to rebrand as sandy cohen's like i'm actually a sandy cohen irish okay which is confusing because that character is jewish but you know i know i

mean you can be yep you could be a black irish and jewish yeah it's just being the very specific big location anyways i have no idea how we fucking got there because we were talking about the pilgrims and only half of your family there you go yeah there's one half that was and i'm sure they did the bad i'm sure they were like the worst of the worst let's be real because they were like white people with like money from what i've heard from you what you've told me from the descendants yeah no no there's there's there's evil in that blood like that's cursed it's a good thing that i've got i've got some other to you know hold it hold it down otherwise and you don't want to be that pureblood that's that's the oof that's i feel like that would be incest well yeah that's

like in harry potter yeah also let's i'm the one on that side of the family with the darkest hair i'm not kidding darkest hair and darkest blue eyes okay the only reason i saw blue eyes my dad is blue eyes that black irish is really pulling through i know but i did get the black Irish eyebrows like I'm really upset about that because my dad has like Sandy Cohen eyebrows I'm like give me that seen seen videos that don't exist anymore yeah like give me that thick brow give me that uns like give me like a Lily Collins brow but like don't tweeze it don't trim it like give me that unruly give me a wizard brow those old wizards with their unruly brows I'd love it I would anyways um yeah so we're never wrong on this podcast so just buckle up

bitches and prepare for the wild ride yeah so this show is divided into three segments the first is but am i wrong that's the two of us we present things in our lives or hot takes that we may or may not be wrong about cheat code we're not wrong and then there's but are you wrong and that's when y'all write in which i have a few things to say and i'm sure that you would like to say so but are you wrong is when y'all write into but am i wrong pod at gmail.com and share you know if you've been you know on the fence about am i right or am i wrong in this situation and then uh keep it to 300 words or less and share your pronouns if you would like to give fake names but most importantly write it because they've been like lacking through the email address and

then megan posted today on the day that we're recording like hey y'all please write in within five minutes 20 people had written in yeah because i specifically said i'm like for this day only we'll accept dms and i feel like more than 20 yeah i mean i mean like within the first five minutes without a doubt and i'm y'all been sitting on this actually please please send an email we know that it takes a little bit more effort but just like open the email and uh app and it's the same thing think about it as instagram yeah but in text form uh-huh it's just like a little looks a little different like squint your eyes like you'll be fine yeah would it be easier we've just got would be easier if we had like a forum on a forum a form on our instagram that you would

then click and then fill it out like how can we make it easier for you because we know that you have things to say yeah but you don't like emailing and i get it i don't like calling people i don't like emailing or calling or texting i don't like communication i would prefer just to talk me too or not like i either want to talk to you or i don't in person uh-huh and to get to me in person means that you actually like you know need to be in the close to me i just came in through your open side well i told you to come in i gave you consent yeah well i wouldn't i wouldn't know that it's so freaky i was thinking about just making you keys anyway well i mean it it was like me when i was like i hate walking downstairs to let people in so um yeah let us know how we can

help help us help you and we can figure out a way to do this that's more streamlined um because the fact with dms like we can't keep up with them and so that's the thing that's hard so i don't of maybe it's us doing it once every certain amount of time and then we backlog it but we want you to be able to like you know send in as things are happening in your life we don't have to like wait for that when you can just email so oh and then our final segment our final segment is but are they wrong and that's when we pick someone we both nominate an individual or group of things that uh is happening in pop culture in the news and we share if they're well they're always wrong to be honest those people are always wrong yeah they've been heavily vetted yeah we're

burning burning them at the stake so and not in like a you know wrongfully accused which way in a fuck you bitch way i do love bitch as a term of endearment though so the favorite my favorite part is that all of you get to vote on who you think was wrong in every situation for all of the segments and you do that by heading over to our instagram and we post stories the day after the episode comes out so these episodes come out on thursday the votes usually go up on friday sometimes they go up a little bit later but they will always be up before monday or very early and i do want to say fishing friday may come out a little bit late just because it's the day after a holiday this year so yes yes yes yes it may like not come out on friday it might come out on

saturday we we are we it's we're on holiday time everybody okay yeah just it's holly jolly and drink some cocoa and enjoy the shit so yeah and then on 15th friday we released an episode this time maybe on january what we read the results of last week's episode so you can see where you fell um among that and sometimes we have updates or people who have like their own input for all that stuff and we get some more viewpoints and we just talk shit which is also what we're gonna do here oh yeah so should we hop into it let's do it so i have a personal one this week oh la la i know look at me and i literally thought of it in the car ride over and i don't know why it took me so long because i think i legitimately used like would i be wrong if when i was talking

about this and it just like didn't ring any fucking bells like earlier this week so i had a doctor's appointment on friday and up until maybe like thursday night i was under the impression like i assumed it was my cardiologist appointment and i was like okay cool yeah that's what you told me uh-huh gotta get the heart monitor tested like see if i can do that i'm gonna make them do this uh-huh i was like i literally left here you were with the fucking plan i was like i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do this and you're like okay great good you got it and i was like no this is what i'm doing and i'm sorry if anyone can hear that i'm wearing overalls so then like do the check-in the night before and it's like oh for your and nobody come for me for the fucking pronunciation i'm

i can't pronounce anything uh pulmonologist pulmologist i don't know pulmonary your lungs and it's that doctor and i was like what like i knew i had a follow-up appointment that was supposed to set six weeks after the initial one and i was like okay that was like weird i you know I didn't know that that was that what that was going to be but okay cool and as I was like getting ready for the appointment I was like oh I really don't want to go like I don't even remember like what the fuck are we doing on this appointment he's like oh well you know it's like probably the other stuff that like you were supposed to do and I had the impression that the other things that he ordered was a high altitude simulation test and um a couple of other like breathing rehab test

sort of things and I was like I thought that like I would have to do that somewhere else but like maybe they just weren't prepared for the first appointment and like that's what I go back and do and I was like okay well at least I will like get something out of this appointment I get there and they insisted I like set the appointment the day I had my last one and they're like you know calling to confirm really wanted to cancel because I was just so fucking tired but I didn't and I get there begrudgingly and the doctor's like probably 30 minutes like late to see me which is fine I'm okay with it that's how it is but he's like very nice the whole office is really kind and he sits down he's like looking at the chart he's like okay so like let's like let's

see what's what's going on and he like starts to kind of like look a little bit confused and then he goes so did you do the like did you do did you do the high altitude simulation test and i was like no he's like did they call you i was like no he's like what and he was like did you do the like and this all the things that i like assumed we were doing that day and i was like no am i not doing that here and he was like no that's like at a whole different location with like different doctor different appointments like that's a whole other thing and he was like I don't know what's going on and then he like it's like going through the file and looking and he's like okay so these were all like they because he's like did you I was like maybe I missed a call like I don't know

but like usually as someone who screens all of her phone calls usually a will say that we're like it's coming from the hospital or it's coming from like might be blah blah blah but also like I'm I'm on their app like they'll send notifications they'll also send text messages if they tried to call you they'll leave voicemails and I was like I don't think I have anything he like looks through the file and is like okay well it says that these were canceled and he's like I didn't cancel them um okay I'm gonna like go to the front desk and like talk to them and they're like well they all said that like they did the order and you have a PPO so your insurance like wouldn't have like I don't think your insurance would have like canceled this at all like it's pretty right like

routine. I don't think they're not going to cover it. So I sat there and then he like went and like talked to them for a while and then like left and then came back. And so I probably been in that room for an hour. And then he was like, OK, well, let's do like do we do a walk exercise like last time? And I was like, no. Or they just take your blood pressure and you like walk around with a pulse ox on your finger. You walk around like briskly the office. I did it twice. First time i had like dangerously low blood ox um levels it turns out that's the rain house my hands had no circulation so they were just so does that mean when you're at home too it's so he said that like i did it again and it's like you need to like you know blow on my finger a couple times i get it

like a little bit warmer and then not having it my hands be down they like need to be up so when i'm at home they're usually like up and by the time that i'm taking them i'm usually like fucking overheated as shit so it's never been dangerously low before so it was tracking way lower than it had and he's like well your heart is like going absolutely like berserk like this like makes total sense like this is your heart affecting your like your breathing like this is exactly what we thought so I do all of that and then he just like writes in my file that he thinks that the cardiologist should like do more whatever and then he's like so I've reordered all of those things and um don't make an appointment today for the follow-up like let's like wait on it until

like we get all of that stuff and I'm like but is it even gonna happen like are they gonna call me am I gonna find out and he was like yeah yeah yeah and he seemed honestly like really confused and part of me like my my uh conspiracy theory mind I go did my cardiologist cancel these like I don't know if he even could but like did he write something in my chart that then would have made my insurance be like I don't think that we need to do this aspect of it or it was just some fucking fluke and error but would I be wrong for days later dare I say almost a week later sending an email or giving them a call it's gonna be an email and being like hi can I be reimbursed for the almost $80 I spent for this,

not counting gas. Absolutely not. It took me an hour to get there, an hour and 30 minutes to get home. Yeah, I would ask to be reimbursed. And I would like to get to the, because like they don't show in their appointment thing who canceled it.

There should be like a something because somebody would have had to cancel it. So there should be a note about who canceled it in the system. I don't, and that's what I wonder if it was like it wasn't their office because that's why he walked out though and like he was like he felt like I could tell like he was a little bit annoyed and like was kind of like well it wasn't my people who did this and so I think like whatever it was like someone put a

block in this and then nobody then notified me or notified their office to be like oh if this appointment was for reading the results like I don't know what the fuck it's like all this shit is about it was like you need to set an appointment six weeks later like you know I would have assumed if it was a secondary like office I would have to go to they would call me like what what it should have happened and then if it didn't I was like oh I guess I'm doing it here and the fact that like nobody reached out and they're so communicative like I love this hospital like I love like all everyone there and it's just like a little weird because a I don't like that one cardiologist but then two I don't like you know insurance in general but I'm like who fucked up here and

who's gonna give me my money yeah yeah i would definitely figure it out okay that makes me feel better because i can't even it was an all-day fucking activity my appointment was at like i don't know like i think i did get there at 12 45 for like a 115 appointment so by the time i was driving it's like 3 30 like rush hour fucking traffic like it's and there's no they don't validate parking there so it's a 12 parking yeah that asked for all of it great cool i would do it yeah i had similar but not in a health wise but in i have um a food that gets delivered to me every couple months that i enjoy and i had canceled mine for this month because i didn't need anymore yeah and i have like they send like a text thing and it's like hey your order's coming

up do you want this and i was like and i said no and then it said okay confirmed your next delivery will be in february so i was looking through my email and there was a receipt that i had been charged for it i was like no i canceled this what happened so then i emailed them and i was like here's the text messages showed and they're like oh well we've already sent it out and i was like but i don't need it i don't want it this is your bad why am i paying for your exactly exactly because it's like 70 yeah and they're like well we can't like get in touch with the shipping people and i was like that's not my problem i have a receipt showing that i don't need this it's gonna go bad yep there's no room for shit yeah it's just so fucking annoying

and especially because like you prepay for like these appointments so like you don't pay at the end of the appointment you pay at the beginning which like i don't have an issue it's like i also like will do prepay like i can pay on my phone before i even get there and i like that like the less contact like the better for me but like you know it's just like it's not it's the money and the time and gas like there's a lot that and also like mentally you were preparing for one thing and it wasn't that no and it's just like so it's just it's very frustrating and also like i really like that doctor and all that i'm like i also wasted your time like and like and he just kind of came up with something for you to do while you were there and i was like you know this is like we

both know that this is like pretty fucking useless and even after the first appointment it's pretty fucking useless and like if i had had totally normal tests and all of that shit before they probably would have been like oh you don't need to do a follow-up appointment and instead i'm like so now i'm gonna have to do all of this all over again right so i'm just like annoyed as shit so i'm gonna ask for my money back good for you it's just too fucking expensive yeah and i had a lasik appointment that that i had done for like this week to do it like to see if i'm qualified to get like a touch up for it. And the payment for that appointment is $50. And then the cost to get it done again would be anywhere between 500 to like $2,000. And I canceled it because

I'm just like, no, I already spent 70. Like I already spent all this fucking money. And then I'm spending a lot of money, which I will talk about in my Rachel of the week. And I'm like, look at me now. I'm like, I'm financially well, like I'm doing fine financially, but like no matter what like health insurance and shit is so fucking expensive we're all making sacrifices because we actually can't pay for everything so like we have to make choices and sacrifices there which like is fucked up like we shouldn't have to do that and like i made a sacrifice for this like give me my money back that's it well you're not wrong get your money i'm gonna get it all right mine this week is a hot take oh i love it here's my thanksgiving hot takes first of all

when I wake up, I'm going to be watching the Macy's Day Thanksgiving Parade and I'm going to be cooking and I don't want to be bothered. Those are, you know, what I'm after. I've already been preparing all night and I've probably slept three hours anyway. On Thanksgiving, I should only be seeing low vibrational plates if you're posting them on Instagram. If you don't know what that means, that's your problem. No salad. That's taking up room for what? That's a Wednesday food on a friday actually not even friday you shouldn't be eating the salad again until monday if especially specifically if i see a caesar salad if i see a cheesy salad with croutons jail also if i see a chopped salad with salami no where what are you doing you at the deli no

you're not no no moving on macaroni and cheese should always be made in the oven and i i mean i know this is again to you but no breadcrumbs again that's taking up room on thanksgiving you can have it like i don't want them to think that i am like only macaroni and cheese breadcrumbs no no i told melissa completely we had it on no it's on record it came out last tuesday okay everybody but just know that like i just need a crispy top so if you're not able to get your cheese crispy you better throw some breadcrumbs on there because i don't want i don't want like the entire layer it's just like a a whop i want i want the whop underneath exactly but i can't have the whole on the top it needs to be a little dry otherwise we'll have fucking frozen mac and cheese and i

should have prefaced this with in saying that i can't eat most of the things that i'm going to be listing no but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have opinions but i have opinions when i could eat them these are still my opinions and like you still are and i still make them for other people yeah no your voice actually should be the loudest for this regardless if you can eat it or not right also four cheese four cheese minimum turkey terrible meat unless it's thinly sliced and on a sandwich as deli meat but on thanksgiving i'm gonna eat that shit yeah no i will shit talk turkey every single day but if you decide to not make it on thanksgiving i'm sorry i love turkey yeah also ham only for christmas i love ham but christmas it is you eat it on a roll with potatoes

green bean casserole should only be made on thanksgiving no no other day of the year and also the onions that come in the little can that crispy french whatever the fuck it is no make your own just no they look good though they i've never had them they're very oily oh they're crunchy but oily no this may upset some of my palm colored brethren and sister and and them ends sweet potato pie is superior to pumpkin pie even though i dislike both of them me coming up with all of my opinions better thanksgiving pie is pecan pie as an apple rank third for you or does it rank above pumpkin sweet potato apple to me is like the wish version of a thanksgiving pie okay i make a great apple pie and i'm gonna try and make it here's the thing apple pie delicious but like ranking in

thanksgiving like i can have apple pie any day of the fucking year you love a nut i love a nut i don't love a nut so like i'm here to respect you and like your nut ways and to continue on my my nut liking of things uh candy yams are better than sweet potato casserole and if you don't know the difference that's your problem big brussels sprouts they've they've been like the last 10 years everybody just suddenly loves brussels sprouts i don't know like in the 90s that was like a thing where like people would be like oh disgusting i'm not eating brussels sprouts and then last 10 years they became the thing and i'm here to say that their cousin cabbage smother cabbage is way better justice for cabbage at all seasons every time of year yes like cabbage is

bad girl good all the fucking time cabbage can transform like cabbage can be whatever the fuck you want her to be whatever she's a shapeshifter yes i love and they're i mean brussels sprouts are just baby cabbages that have not got their full flavor yet cabbage is where the flavor is i love both okay collard greens wash them first of all because i i ordered some some collard greens a couple weeks ago and they were not washed yeah like you could taste it it's like see that was scallops the kind of seafood where you can get sand in them like they can get gritty and they should be cooked in ham hocks and pork back and they should be soft not crispy and i don't want to see a fucking cranberry in some collard greens who puts cranberries when i when i first moved to

la i saw it a couple times and i was like what the fuck is this and it was like kind of crispy no no absolutely not that is what kale is for exactly and don't get us started on kale the only breads that you should be having at thanksgiving are either cornbread no jalapenos yeast bread but the superior bread is hawaiian rolls exactly justice for hawaiian rolls today and every day uh-huh mashed potatoes on thanksgiving should be smooth no chunks and should be served with brown gravy this is not the time to be putting cheese so at the time we'll be getting jazzy with the little chunks and like little pieces of the skin no that's a summer potato that's another any other time potato thanksgiving potatoes brown gravy i should specify

only yeah no the the skin on the potato that's the potato summer hat take take her hat off right we're indoors it's the holidays it is the holiday season holidays have some decorum cornbread dressing is better than stuffing is that the same i've never heard of that is that just like stuffing but like the base instead of bread is cornbread it's mixed in there but it's different like it's cooked different it's prepared different if you have problems with that argue with your mom i don't know what to tell you that sounds good it's delicious i'm gonna try to make it gluten-free so we're gonna be doing a lot of experiments it's gonna be experimenting this year this is the time to do it is christmas is not the time

for experimentation i'll come back with my christmas hot thought my hot thoughts hot thoughts later hot thoughts dinner on thanksgiving should start at 3 p.m uh-huh i know i i figured you'd be well no i'm not against it like from a concept but as somebody as someone with adhd who is not good at time management that's gonna be hard it's gonna be hard this year especially because we're recording on wednesday because we have to move it but dinner 3 p.m then you the itis sets in you go take your nap and then we reconvene at 6 p.m from leftovers oh yeah yeah

they haven't been put up they're still that's the best because it's been marinating a little bit they still have the tin foil just the entire oven that's when the macaroni

is actually at its best oh it's the best part because it's not like the cheese isn't sliding off like the spoon like it's just I mean I'm not eating macaroni and cheese

I mean I'm not but like but like you want a spoon at that point when it first is served like oh it's so fucking good we're not watching

Christmas films you can start watching your Christmas movies tomorrow none on Thanksgiving i already started i know you did cranberry sauce non-negotiable out of the can or fresh it's delicious and i want to be bathed in it can i tell you the cranberry sauce that i grew up with what and i want to say that this was something that was done throughout like the an entire circle of people it is a cranberry sauce that the only way i can describe it is um separated

when you're trying it's not cranberry sauce when you're trying to like combine like something together and then it goes oh no it's seized up and now it's just like this weird lumpy chunky thing it's that and can i tell you the forward flavor orange peel it is just the amount of orange zest it's just the peel orange peel is supposed to be like a like a like a little but it's not the main it's called cranberry sauce not orange sauce it looks like a sunset the mix of orange as well as the cranberry color and um like you could make like your your orange chicken in it honestly it'd be fucking great for that but it then throws in what every hippie dippy california household had to throw in to anything made from 2000 to now they put it in guacamole here

pomegranate seeds i have never seen guacamole with pomegranate seeds in it have you been to the west no have you been to a have you been to a mexican restaurant chain that is not uh i don't I don't fuck with non-authentic Mexican food. I'm sorry. There's one that does make some really good gluten-free stuff. Tocaya. Tocaya, I'm not coming for you. I know that you put pomegranate seeds on your guacamole and like I can look past it.

You know what? I've ordered from Tocaya. That's where I used to get my family meals from. But I never got the guac because I was like, it's going to go bad. The guac is good. I just like and there's not it's not mixed in. They do like a little garnish pomegranate on top and I go weird. I'll eat it.

But like, I'm not loving it. well also black friday no like sit down enjoy your family if you want to enjoy family or sleep or that's when you can start watching your christmas movies or football whatever the fuck you want to do but preserve your mental health and physical health and those of others and retail workers that don't some of them don't have a choice to be there just like no fuck black friday use your computer like a normal person like some people like oh i love the excitement of what getting punched in the face i do have a friend who loves the excitement and it actually is not of getting punched in the face it's of watching it she usually just like brings

like a drink and stand something i've heard of people doing that but also like things pop off and i don't something might pop off and then somebody's asking for like a witness and i'm not gonna be there snitch on people i didn't see anything right my eyes were closed the whole time no thank you and then lastly and most importantly fuck the colonizers there you go there we go yep yep yep that half of my blood that's just pumping through me that's pure evil fuck you so those are my hot takes what i mean i love it i agree with you wholeheartedly um you know i obviously have already started watching christmas movies but i will say like my christmas thing is like i don't they don't need to be watched on thanksgiving like i i just want like a break thanksgiving

is perfect like it's it's it's christmas up to thanksgiving yeah and then it's just a 24 hour window and then christmas and here's the thing i don't disagree with that because we have something that often gets overlooked and that is thanksgiving episodes of television yes like and i'm pretty sure hulu did at one point where like they made a fucking playlist of all of them so like there you go you're watching the the uh modern family highlights you're watching the friends episodes like i need those all day modern family would be fine that's obviously like that is like it is a thanksgiving show like they they made it not endorsed by pilgrims but like they made the show for thanksgiving every every holiday yeah their halloween episodes that's what i mean i'm like

i think that like we severely criminally underrate the television show holiday stuff and like we've said this is streaming shows that that's the biggest thing that i miss i'm like i need to know what time of year it is based on you doing a holiday themed episodes like don't miss out as and i'm a number one crisis movie fan but like don't neglect you've already done the halloween episodes of all the tv shows like don't neglect the thanksgiving episodes like they're great they're absolutely great like chaos always ensues there's always a turkey on fire yes and it's always gonna end up like your food will always look better than what you saw on tv it's a good time oh i love it i literally just love this fucking food like that's all i care about all

i care about too is the food and like we're officially in thanksgiving food season and i can't fucking wait yeah okay well you're so not wrong thank you and i thoroughly enjoyed all of that now i'm hungry i am hungry too all right so let's take a break wrap from our break and now we're going to read your submissions so i got 20 female have a friend who's engaged and i'm super happy for we work together and everything was great we also have a really hot manager at our job and i recently started hooking up with him nope it's on the down low but she's my friend so she knows well our job had an office party and there were drinks involved and she got blackout drunk i was not there but the next day my boss that i'm hooking

up with oh bitch you did not mention that the manager is specifically your boss yes okay i got that that's why i said no i didn't i don't know how jobs work i was not there but the next day my boss that i'm hooking up with and another friend of mine that was at the party told me she followed him into the bathroom and tried to hook up with him i heard nothing from her for like two days but people at work told me she was laughing and joking about it with other co-workers i got pissed off and told her fiance but had a big fight with her in the process too so am i wrong no i love it this whole thing is wrong everything about this is therefore pem does cancel each other out you can't be wrong because all of it's fucking wrong from the top to the bottom literally first

in her outer last like you're all wrong so therefore i don't think you're wrong at all i think you're absolutely wrong i don't know hooking up with your boss wrong yeah wrong telling your co-worker you're hooking up with your boss wrong because at the end of the day they may be your friend but they're still your co-worker yep wrong wrong wrong her trying to hook up with him in a bath no first them having this holiday party where it's enough alcohol there for people to get blackout drunk wrong wrong her getting blackout drunk at the holiday party wrong wrong her hooking up with trying to hook up with him in the bathroom wrong on two levels because one she knows that you are sorry three levels one she knows that you're hooking up with him

two she is hooking trying to hook up with her boss and then three the fiance oh and i can i say four um don't hook up in bathrooms it's very uncomfortable with the rest of us who are trying to pee or might have had some dairy and are having a little a little tummy issues also sanitary and next all the co-workers talking about it and then her laughing and kiki-ing about this all of this is wrong and then yeah you telling the fiance right right right 100 right right so they're there that you're right you're right you're right because all of this is so wrong in a sea of wrong you did what you had to do you were pushing it what what were you expected to do just lie down while that happened you were also right for not going to this party too yeah dude

honestly fuck work holiday parties like i think there's something fucked up about how much money they spend on them, too. Well, it's because taxes. That's what I mean. I'm like, it's like we're doing this for all of you.

I'm like, oh, you could have actually just given everyone like a nice holiday bonus instead. You're going to do this. Bonuses get taxed more, so just.

Okay, you could have like slipped some money under our doors. Or just like paid everybody more to begin with. No, that's true. But I'm like,

if you want to do something like special for the holiday season, like if you're doing this for you, you're not doing this for us. Unless you're like you're at a company that like mine if i we have extra like we get an uh onslaught of like an extra show at the end of the year and i can't like pay everybody like yeah well you're not like gonna use that money to then

host a party right like no one wants that i give money i don't even give like gifts i give money because gifts like no gifts not money in the pocket no for what i don't need an evening work obligation that i'm like i'm not getting paid for this no it's just it's fun is it no for what for who you know what's fun money sitting at home and money that's what's fun well okay this is great loki loves that we're doing a great episode right now this is a really good episode i think it's because i took my allergy medication pretty like like recently so i'm like my nose my nasal cavities are dry my brain is firing off hi eminem love the podcast and am a longtime listener i am 24 year old female she her who has never been in a relationship i have

had very little dating experience but i would say i am very career focused and picky with who i surround myself with i don't see a problem with the standards i have and i don't really want a relationship actively unless at the moment unless someone i really like came along the problem is every time i see a family member or friend they ask if i'm dating someone even my parents friends ask my parents and when they say she's single they tell my parents i probably have a secret partner i've even had an aunt ask why i've never had a partner and if i'm lying am i wrong for thinking this is totally inappropriate to be questioned constantly on i'm in a fantastic career and working hard on myself and it's really discouraging when all i'm ever questioned when all

i'm ever questioned on is my dating history it makes me feel as if i should have a partner just due to the pressure which i know is totally wrong thank you you guys make my week so much better smiley face emoticon well you're not wrong about that that we make your week so much better and i you're not wrong about anything else i me being older than you get still get i get asked this i mean i have had partners that were secret that i didn't tell people about just because i don't like people in my business they have probable cause yeah you might be lying yes but but also like I'm not currently in a relationship or am I um and I get asked this all all the time it doesn't stop even I'm older doesn't stop gets on my nerves and now I just start cussing people out

so there's my solution yeah my solution is either you do that or you then turn around on other people and it's like oh are you still working that like really crappy job like I would just turn it around to be like oh that thing that thing that one thing that you're lacking in your life like i see all of the great things you're doing like let's focus on that one thing also i don't have right now also a lot of people that ask these questions hate their partners no it's true it's very true i don't think i've ever asked anyone like oh have you been like dating anyone because i'm like first of all if you had good tea if like it was fun like you tell me and like i assume if you haven't told me like yawn boring like i don't need to ask like whatever but i also think that

there is um an underutilized tool and that i would like to say is the lars and the real girl method freak him out freak him out that's not what Lars did which honestly great movie don't understand this reference

take a blow up doll or a fake doll and bring it around and go this is my new partner oh I like this freak them the fuck out to the point where they're like uh what

like you know we're not one for like roping people into fetishes non-contentually this is not a fetish this is a lie and that is very different

yes you're allowed to lie to people without their knowledge or without their consent because that's how lying works my brother-in-law is convinced that I have a full family here and maybe you do and i was like well come visit if that's what you believe

that's on you it's not my responsibility to change your narrative he constantly thinks i'm lying who the fuck knows but yeah that's fucking annoying you're not wrong you're not wrong and do whatever you need to do to cope with it i will say though it is like so rooted in the patriarchy and like just like women are young for like oh my god you have to get married and have babies and blah blah blah but that will always be there but even then when you get a relationship then it's like oh what's the other thing that you have like what's the other thing that you're lacking that like let's ask about this when are you gonna get married when you have kids like one is it's never enough and it's usually because people hate their lives i'm

getting married and having a kid next year i'm so excited for you thank you congratulations when are you getting married i don't know no i don't know okay hi so i'm in law school 23 she her and i'm in a very red state coming from a city that was very liberal and just pretty great i left because i needed the personal growth and i got accepted so i came but i wanted to ask if i'm in the wrong for not liking a classmate 24 ish she her let's call her monica who is so rude and condescending and disrespectful and just has a shitty personality but that everyone lets slide because she was a childhood cancer survivor oh my gosh i know i'm sorry i can't like i i i'm not laughing at childhood cancer obviously okay my opinion is that i treat everyone with

respect until i don't get that back and she was a bitch at one point in class and just so unaware of how fucking rude she is i added the fucking i'm so sorry that was i took creative i felt it i can feel your passion through the message and i just didn't think that that should give you a pass so am i wrong for thinking that just because she survived that i don't have to excuse her shitty personality my peers think i'm wrong but she's always making unnecessary comments in class eating loudly capitals talks down to everyone and one day i walked in and she hijacked the class monitors not a thing you're supposed to do and was blasting christmas music i can give the whole story if you want and i was like i don't think we should be doing this can we turn this

off at 8 a.m. and she went well I know you're a grinch and it immediately made it uncomfortable for everyone and as the only non-white person in the room they all thought I was overreacting love you both long time listener first time writer here's the thing being a bitch is being a bitch being a cunt is being a cunt like being an asshole is just being an asshole you can get cancer and simultaneously be a really bad person you can have survived cancer and be a really bad person like i think like if we think of like horrible people of their times you think of people who are like horrible i'm i don't know off the top of my head how like stalin died but like you know people die from things or they get sick they have all the shit like the fucking that doesn't

discriminate like any anyone is is capable for that and when it comes to overcoming something and surviving something that also doesn't automatically make you a good person like because in turn it would mean that like oh you survived because you're a good person and then everyone else who died was a bad person and it's like well no that's like literally not how it works it's super irrelevant i do want to know how you know this because like she clearly tell goes around telling people like a little like weaponized where it's like it's one thing if it's like oh like by the way like but then i'd be like i'm sorry what does does the childhood cancer survivor want to then be known forever that it's like we let it slide because she had

cancer as a child like does she want that because if she wants that that's even like that makes you even more of a bitch like otherwise like you're just like literally clueless because everyone's been coddling you yeah i co-sign everything you said i'm trying not to get canceled so i'm not to add anything on but like just being like you said your trauma does not excuse your bad behavior it might be like a reason for it but it's not an excuse yeah and like from the examples you gave she just sounds like annoying like it doesn't seem like she's like a from this it doesn't sound like she's a malicious or mean person you might have more examples where it's like really clear that she's like a fucking cold like hearted bitch and it's like so mean and manipulative but like

You don't have to like everybody, regardless of what they've been through in your life. You don't need to like anybody. No, I low key think that sometimes being boring and being annoying are actually like the worst traits. Like, I'd rather you be a cunt. Like, but like, if you're boring or annoying, like, I can't do anything with that. Like, you're ruining my day. And like, I can't even I'm going to get irrationally angry at you for something that like is not

as big of a deal. But like, it will ruin my life. Like, it's just not it. And I the nicest people in the world can still be annoying as hell. You don't want to be their friend. I'm sure there are a lot of like wonderful, amazing activists who are like amazing and wonderful and great. Like if I got in a room with Malala, I don't think we'd have much to talk about.

No, I think she's wonderful and great, but not annoying. Appreciate. No, but I can appreciate from afar. And I'm like people who've gone through all these like amazing things. I'm like, I'm going to read your book. I'm going to do all this stuff. But like, do I think and also if I think about this sense, I'm like, do I think you're You're going to like me.

Right. Am I going to be me? If I can't have my personality and feel like I have to like filter it for you to like be whatever is like acceptable in this idea of what even if it's you haven't done anything to me, but I think that this is how I treat you. Like, that's not fun for any of us at all. So no. And I think it's pretty shitty if everybody like agrees.

Well, also agrees and thinks that she's like annoying or a bitch or like the fucking worst. Everyone's like, well, we'd be nicer because like she had cancer. Like, I think that makes other I think that's so much fucking worse. I think it's so much fucking worse. Yeah. and if I were her I'd be like if I was the girl I'd be like pissed as fuck to find out that I'm like oh all of you hate me you let it slide and you let me be this fucking annoying and I could have pivoted my person out like I could have learned this like I'm not like because hijacking

computer and like turning on like music and all of that like it's just why like what like why I would be upset that people didn't let me give me the opportunity to like grow and evolve and like become a person that is like seen as a whole person not just like as a survivor right so i don't think you're wrong no you're not i've been through some shit like i'm not a cancer survivor but like i'm still a cunt right like trauma doesn't make you exactly a lot of people don't people don't a lot of people don't like me and like and then people that i find very annoying like me and i'm like why yeah and like what why are we lying to ourselves that's the beauty of life is that we get to pick and choose what who and what we like and sometimes the people you

you don't like have been through some shit and some people you like you're like you're a horrible person you've never been through anything and you're completely out of touch and you're like but i love this yep i'm enjoying i'm enjoying watching your life so you're not wrong no all right next one hi megan and melissa love the podcast and both of you here's my issue i'm a 22 year old female she her and I'm a horseback rider people that know me know about the writing but it's not really something I bring it up in conversation ever unless asked about my my hobbies specifically despite this guys that date me guys that I hook up with always talk about wanting me to ride them often using cringy statements like I want you to ride me like your

horse etc this irks me out because a i think it's weird and b no one asks if i enjoy being on top dude horse girls i'm not done are fucking fight in the trenches fighting against these assumptions yeah I'm sorry and the next part is not funny um but just the way that you wrote that was funny you had to know I actually physically can't really be on top I have a labrum issue in my hips that causes severe pain during sex and even during actual horseback riding I get that it's fetishized but am I wrong for hating that everyone expects me to do it am I wrong for not wanting to i also have confrontation issues so i struggle with saying that no and oftentimes put up with it just to avoid conflict but i don't enjoy being on top and i'm always nervous to do it because i

feel bad at it i love you guys so much any suggestions tips for putting up with this will help first of all the fact that people say it is like weird if you really think about it i was today years old when i found out that horse girls are fetishized for riding horses which riding like a horse like okay paint me like a french girl ride me like a horse yeah i'll kick you in the ass like it's weird like because it could because like in turn it means that they think you get turned on by riding your horse it's implied bestiality yes Like, it's gross. Uh-huh.

This is so fucking weird. It's like, who is saying, like, in a serious manner, like, ride me like your SoulCycle bike? Like, they're not saying that. Like, do you know what I mean? And, like, there's not even an animal involved. Like, it should be, it's weirder when you throw an animal in there, but, like, no one's going to be like, yeah,

like, ride me like your mountain bike. Like, ride me like your BMX bike. Like, no, they're weird. No, throw an animal in there? Like, yeah. Ride me like Black Beauty. ride me like sea i can only imagine call me sea biscuit i can only imagine some black girl that is a horse girl and you know that she's been called black beauty by some

white dude that thinks he's so down so woke and i hope you beat his ass yeah i hope you what's it called when a horse goes up on his front legs and then kicks back that i hope you went full horse cosplay and like trampled i hope you stampeded his ass oh my god this is so like i've never even thought about i've never thought i mean why would i think about it but like yeah first i think maybe i just i'm just thinking of like the horse girls gathering and being like asked me to ride but they never asked me how i like to be ridden that's what it is it literally is no you need like a horse girl like you need to like get in your horse girl community and like have a horse girl like meeting because i'm sure a lot of your hips hurt that's

like par for the course with the chef doesn't want to come home and make dinner right i've been riding all day and you want me to hop on that dick and perform like it's not the same like i like honestly i might be petty at one point i go okay cool i'll show you and then like i don't know shit about horseback riding so like i'm gonna bring a lasso like i'm gonna like i'm gonna say like a cartoon i've got um i'm not like into horses so i don't know what the little thing is that you hold the saddle the reins i'm gonna tie a rein around your neck i think someone's gonna like this somebody probably does like that i'm gonna fucking nail i'm gonna nail horseshoes to your fucking feet i'm gonna give you those i'm gonna give you metal permanent claws and then

i'll be like i have to get on your back it's not even your dick so what now honestly i mean yeah you just gotta block people immediately these people are like it's not only just like weird and gross but like i i'm a little wary that these people are um diving into bestiality yeah i would maybe just like when the horse conversation comes up and say like yeah i love you know horseback riding but it's been kind of you know bad on my hips it hurts a little bit and then when we move to the bedroom they won't ask or you just gaslight them and you're like well you don't like straddle a horse and you ride it like you put a chair there and you just like sit like just like you just there's these like things that you built on

but no no but you like just gaslight them and lie about it's like no it's like there's like a recliner chair it's kind of like you put a lazy boy on top and it like wears this kind of like smock dress and i do that or like you can do one where you're vertical where i'm just like laying down and it's just suddenly like you're describing like just like laying on a horse like planking on a horse that's very cool and that's what you do you should bring planking back remember that phase honestly like face down ass up maybe that's what you do and you're like that's how how do you want to have sex and then tell them that's how you ride sometimes i want to be the horse you know that's what i'd say and then you can be face down ass up and then he rides you

from the back i think immediately what you say is like ride me like a horse just saying can i peg you and then oh that's good that's a good one too there you go be fun fun could ensue fun could ensue or embarrassment either way equally fun to you so they get what they deserve either you want to be pegged or you don't want to be pegged that's not what horse girls can do for you but what you can do for horse girls right so any other horse girls if you've got advice if you've got a community i don't know if there's like there's a face there's a facebook group i know that because back when like facebook groups were trying to like rebrand themselves they were having those ads all around town and there was

like an actual one for like the horse girls that's funny yeah i mean i know that the horse girls in our in our community like all of you are like you've got terms that you have with each other i don't know if you all know each other but like i've what i've heard is that the horse community is small so i'm thinking like you know you guys need to have a conversation together and put a stop to these to these men these fantasies because they really have to see this i like i think they really think like they think they're like oh she can really ride like this is a girl that can really it's the same thing when like people like oh like gymnast like you're so flexible and it's like what do you want to do a back handspring on your dick right like what the

fuck you want me to do no i'll vault off your dick i'm sure it'll enjoy that and then i'll show you the episode about from don't blame me of a broken dick and rippling yeah i'm just like really thinking about this now like when men see women ride horses like are they getting turned on by that are there a lot of creepy spectators that's what i feel like i feel like people like get turned on by women riding horses so in that situation they look at a horse they look at this massive creature looking at the horse no but i'm saying that in order to view that as something sexual they're viewing themselves swapped in the place of the horse and like that makes me think that they like actually they might want to like you to pop a saddle on them probably if you've

been sexualizing us for so long i think at this point you're like feed me some hay that's why they like that's why they like to be say like if they're they got big dicks they like to say that i'm hung like a horse like it all it all goes together this just in this just in men want to have sex with horses they do they do they fantasize about horses they fantasize about fucking horses men jack off to sea biscuit so all of us when we were in like middle school watching those like puberty things when we had to learn about periods men were just sitting in a giant circle jerk watching Seabiscuit. Wow. Well, you heard it here. Now we're going to take another break.

now it's time for but are they wrong rachel of the week so i would like to nominate ticket master nobody is surprised should thank charity to be fair yes charity thank you um but also it was on my short list um before you text me back gotcha you hadn't you told me you didn't have it so she texted me and i was like i really don't care but megan probably would this was before shit was going down, too. And then it was like, oh, now I'm mad, mad. So,

it should not be news to anybody that I am a Taylor Swift fan. Been a Swifty. You are? Literally for so long, like, longer than some people

have been alive. Like, I am, I've been there from the start. So, she released her Eros tour and she has a concert, SoFi Stadium, Los Angeles, on my fucking birthday. Like, she did this for me.

This was personal. I see you, Taylor. And what I'm about to say has nothing to do with you. But I would like to fucking nominate Ticketmaster. Because oh my fucking God, this is a absolute shit show. Shit show. And I have been buying concert tickets for, I don't know, a while. Like, I wasn't that kid who, you know, some people like have parents who like would get them like they would go to all those concerts as a kid growing up like I had like friends who like you know their parents would take you or you know I've been to a couple like couple growing up as a kid and usually when I'm buying concert tickets aside from Taylor Swift ones I'm not buying ones that I'm not buying BTS tickets I'm not buying hairstyles tickets like I'm

not buying tickets where like holy shit this is so fucking hard but Taylor Swift tickets have always been hard to get and one of the things that you know I've done is buy them day of and spend a fuck ton of money which is not a privilege that everybody has but like this shit's fucking expensive so they were supposed to be there was an original pre she has all these pre-sales so the first one is like a verified fan pre-sale where all this is through ticketmaster and they send out codes everybody you had to pre-register there was like a time period a couple weeks ago where you had to register for this and you could only have like one per email address like all of this shit and so i registered mods registered like i have other friends who registered and shit

and then the night before the day that the pre-sale tickets were going up you were going to get an email and a text notification if you got the verified pre-sale i didn't get it i got waitlisted so did mots lots of people fucked and people got waitlisted and in like the waitlist email they were like that make you feel being waitlisted it's giving me college yep it's giving me college all over again here's the thing nobody unless you're me and you tell people you got waitlisted but like i went to riverside but like that's like what i will be known as and like their acting department i didn't have to audition for that but like i got waitlisted at like some of like the best like you know acting for film programs like really great acting schools like

i wanted to go to and like that doesn't mean anything to like anyone else and i'm like it's like being like i was one ticket away from winning the lottery like that's actually hard and like but it gets no credit for this and so like this has been a triggering time for me so I'm so fucking upset but I'm like you know what at the end of the day I'm unhinged I'm gonna go no matter what like I'm gonna spend so much money like I will not get endometriosis surgery like I will make poor decisions don't do that I have a financial cushion to be able to decide to do that like so don't take any of my shit as something that you should do like we can only ever think from our own privilege and perspective like it's a privilege that I would say fuck it is it still

smart no no no no don't give me that look so no it just reminds me of that tiktok sound of like people really i think i don't remember what the exact sound is but it's like people think that i'm really rich but bitch i'm just financially irresponsible like and i'm not except for this like yeah i know you're very like not frugal just like we we talked about this before you're you're uh financially like i don't know you put money away yeah you put a lot like you don't you don't spend a lot of money no because i'm not good at math so like i don't know how to spend i don't know how to like live within my means because like i don't know how to do math so i'd just but even that there's people that are bad with math that just go around just spending money

without like you're still budgeting like but you're just like yeah i have a lot of money unconscious unconscious budget yeah no i've got i've got a lot of weird mental hang-ups with money and then also have my own brain issues. So those things. So like, I know that this is like the one thing that like I will spend like all this fucking money for. Like I don't give a shit, like it's gonna happen. And like, I've stressed that to like moths

and all of that shit. But that's like not the case, obviously for everybody. But then, you know, the tickets are popping up on resale sites already and they're like $12,000. Like, and I was like, whoa, okay, hold up. Like, yeah, I will make a stupid financial decision. But like, I can't. no, it can't be that. Like that's, that's an un-fucking-hinged. So again, these tickets have

always been hard to get. Her tickets have always had like a really fucking hard time, but now there's Ticketmaster. So I got wait-listed. All these other fucking other people got wait-listed and in the email, they were like unprecedented times. So many people registered. It's like, bitch, the registration was done weeks ago. You knew how many people registered. Either open it up immediately and say like we're going to actually do more pre-sale tickets here or say after the registration hey we're just know that like less people are going to get them so so many people didn't get them and then lots of fucking people got the email confirmation never got their code texted so they got the verified pre-sale but they never got the code

they run out of numbers i mean maybe and so then the pre-sale starts i'm sad but i'm you know i'm i'm mentally and from a distance supporting my comrades currently in the trenches as i wait for my turn 2 p.m because i'm gonna do the capital one pre-sale because mods the reason why we're getting married is because he has a capital one card and a costco card and then uh jennifer garner she had one too what's in your wallet i think uh samuel jackson too his is the i just anytime someone says capital one i just hear his voice what's in your wallet like in my head like that would be a great text uh sound or a ringtone so i'm like okay cool biding my time waiting my turn so just know that this was literally supposed to happen today like we were like i was texting

melissa i was like might have to start late might have to like depending on what pre-sale i get like like you told me that a couple days ago right no i told you that like when i signed up for the priest like that i told you weeks ago but i'm keeping you updated and like i'm like didn't get that pre-sale like capital what i need to take a break at like before i even get in like to do for the one at 2 p.m then they issue another statement on twitter ticket master i will actually read this one because i just looking at this i was like you think we're idiots so like you think we're fucking you think i'm fucking stupid a few updates on the taylor swift era's tour on sale there has been historically unprecedented demand with millions of showing up to buy tickets for the

Taylor Swift Tix presale. Bitch, you sent out the presale codes. You know how many presale codes there were. What do you mean it's unprecedented? You gave the numbers. The call is coming from inside the house. Hundreds of thousands of tickets have been sold. If you have already secured tickets, you're all set. Oh, no way. Obviously. Thank you. If you're currently in the queue, please hang tight. Queues are moving and we are working to get fans through as quickly as possible. West Coast on-sales for Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Santa Clara, and Seattle are originally scheduled for 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time will now take place at 3 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Queues will open 30 minutes prior. The Capital One on-sale has been rescheduled tomorrow at 2 p.m.

local menu time. All pre-sale codes and links sent via text will still work at that time. Thank you for your patience as we continue managing this huge demand. You literally, it's like you asked us to sign up for an email list and then you go, oh my gosh, we got so many emails how could we have known you you asked we did it what the fuck do you mean like there are people like my friend Kaylee was like in line on the queue for fucking hours and hours it kept booting her out starting refresh suddenly 2,000 people are ahead 100 people like blah blah finally glitched and she was able to get in no tickets left like just awful shitty tickets she bought two and was like okay cool that's what it is like it's just a fucking mess and I just know that I'm

I'm in good company because do you know who else is also currently struggling with this? Oh. AOC tweeted, daily reminder that Ticketmaster is a monopoly. It's merger with Live Nation should never have been approved. They need to be reined in. Break them up. Literally, break them the fuck up. So what happens now is beyond the fact that like this shit, it's like the actual infrastructure

of this is like a shit show. And they like for some reason, like aren't prepared to handle something that they prepared to handle with all the numbers that they knew that they had. They do this thing called dynamic pricing, which means that when their tickets are in really fucking high demand, the prices automatically go up. So artists can opt out of dynamic pricing. It's a relatively newer thing. So, you know, some artists might not know whatever it might be sold to them on this, like really like, OK, it's it's within reason, like whatever. But there are people who are able to get pit tickets for $400.

And there are people who got nosebleeds for $2,500 each, not resale, like through Ticketmaster official. And it's just awful. So when they merged with Live Nation, Live Nation prior to this was like the largest concert venue and like artist managers.

So they were the biggest, they were the biggest clients of Ticketmaster. They bought the most tickets through Ticketmaster. And so when they were like, oh, we're going to make our own like ticket purchasing platform ticket master was like oh hold up no no we'll just merge together instead which is like textbook so not allowed to happen like it's just so not allowed to fucking happen but um the government at the time said it is actually not an antitrust concern which is

why clarify further explain why and what you're doing what tell us tell us how it's not when this is like literally what it was written these laws were written to protect this from happening this like really like blew up a couple months ago with bruce springsteen's tickets they were like being priced like five thousand dollars a ticket and fans are mad and i don't know if this has happened to like other big big big fandoms at this point but you've pissed off the swifties and this is just like i hope something fucking changes oh then the other part of the ticket master is like they own their own resale platform so they encourage resellers to hike up the prices because when you buy tickets through Ticketmaster,

you're charged a service fee. When you resell tickets with Ticketmaster, you're charged a service fee twice. And so they're encouraging people to like upcharge. So they basically get the most money. So it is in their incentive to not get you to get tickets the first time around. It's to make it like so scarce,

blow up the prices so fucking much. So then you're forced to buy them on the resale market through them and pay ten thousand fucking dollars for a ticket hot take i don't think you should be allowed to resell tickets at all unless like you're dying like that i don't think you should be able to buy multiple tickets and then sell them back yeah the cap for this is six tickets and then once you get to like not the pre-sale there's no cap you shouldn't be like i don't think you should be able to buy a lot of tickets and then resell it for more than what the tickets

actually worth like if you can sell it you sell it at face value but you don't sell for more i um got in a fight with somebody about this and they're like yeah but like i need to pay for my ticket i was like you don't pay for your ticket you don't need to charge somebody double to cover your ticket no someone else doesn't need to pay for your ticket you need to pay for your ticket and they like didn't get it i was like are you okay i genuinely think like where is the fucking does Jeff Bezos have any kids who are Swifties like where is the kid with the fucking unlimited credit card who is like I we need the Peter Pan buy the fucking buy all the fucking tickets from the scalpers and shit and then you dole them out to all of the actual fans like how the fuck do we

get anonymous in to like work this system because like this is such a fucking scam and it's only getting worse and worse and worse I mean and the thing is even when they're to go back to some 90s television even when it was like an actual like place physical place where you could go buy tickets there was an episode of say by the bell where they were like camped out at the mall to buy tickets for youtube and i was like at the time i didn't even know who youtube was i was like why are they at the mall but um they they like had to like stay overnight at the fucking mall to buy youtube tickets and it's the same and they were waiting at ticket master it was the same it just

now it's just moved to digital yeah and it's like they're making so much fucking money and then also like they're not because this monopoly

like it hurts everybody like artists can't really say no to these things because then it's like oh well then you can't tour like we're not gonna sell your tickets like you're not gonna

have any contracts with these venues because we like we manage all these venues so like best of fucking luck like you either do you either play our game

or like you don't get to do shit and like it's it's just like a piece of shit. And I would hope that like Taylor would be able to, she has so much pull like through her fans, like to do like something with this. Like she doesn't even do,

like you can't buy meet and greet passes. So like the whole thing that her thing is like, you know, they have like the secret sessions, but then also like, you know, the rep room or whatever they call the one for each concert. And it's like, has her team do a bunch of social media stalking

leading up to the concert for who's going to be there and what seats they're going to be in. her mom walks around before the show like they have people who then pick people out of the crowd the audience and those are the people who get to pick to meet her you don't get to pay to do that like I don't think you should be able to pay for meet and greets like I mean I did that for Jonas Brothers and like do I regret it no but like I don't think ethically you should be charging to do that for tickets that are like oh well you can only meet me if it's like you spend like five thousand fucking dollars like if it's an attainable price you bought a cd like that gets you a meet

and greet like something like that where you're actually supporting the artist like through that way so buying cds these days no but you know back in the day oh i thought you meant current time so it's like no i'm saying like back in the day like that was like what you would do and like that could get you in the lottery to like win something but like right now like i just think that like okay you're someone specifically who is like so against chart like you want it to be an equal opportunity for people like and even like when she like lists her prices like the original price is listed even for vip which include like merch and shit i think the highest they go to is like 500 or something like that and it's like okay so this is something that you were passionate about

and care about like you we've seen you re-record your masters like you have a very loud voice here like even spotify she like like that was like very loud and all of that and i'm like can you and a couple other can you bts and um beyonce's tickets haven't gone on sale yet but i'm sure it'll be the same can like you get together and can someone buy ticket master and redistribute this like this is fucked yeah the thing that you remember when earlier so this was off mic where i was like joe biden had tweeted out about and i didn't know because you know there's a lot of parody accounts jumping off because you can now buy blue check marks but this was real so he uh the white house announced that it was working to crack down on junk fees

in all sorts of transaction banks airlines cable companies and ticket sales airbnb too all of it and so they're the surprise charges the companies sneak in the bills because they can this is a direct quote from biden such as resort fees at hotels and processing fees for concerts according to more perfect union ticket master speeds now cost as much as 78 of a ticket processing fee inflation is connected to the domination of a few big ticketing companies across the market according to breakup ticket master coalition they saw that after the merger of live nation ticket master the company now controls 70 of primary ticketing and live event venues bands have long been complaining about ticket blah blah but anyway the administration is trying to get rid

of the fees and then also looking at the broader scope of breaking joe biden i officially forgive you for that ice cream eating picture now knowing that you're still like the ice cream eating pic i can't stand it but i know you can't no now i love it because you're a swifty so thank you for your service this was before this was on august 20 october 26th okay well i'm gonna need an update because aoc has come out as a swifty and his showbiz is also definitely i think he is i think it is middle-aged grandchildren middle older old white men like that's their shit i was about to say this man is far from middle age hey middle age is a concept far from middle age hey wow melissa here is setting parameters for what i'm just saying that that this man old for middle age

that is 90 years old hold on hold on anyone who's a member of the patreon will understand 79 he'll be 80 and next week he'll be 80 in five days you don't know that he'll need to be 100 and 60 there you know i need you to finish that i don't know how to do that i know that's why i jumped right on in so much hey you don't know that you don't know yeah also live nation ceo in 2017 his salary was 70 million which is like one of the highest ceo salaries at that time like they're just like raking in the money and they should sleep with one eye open yeah well you're not wrong i mean this isn't a you thing but take a master turn everybody hope by the time that you are hearing this episode that just imagine that i'm sitting at home no let me letting i no no don't say i'm

in the fucking you no bitch that'd be for a fucking week no just imagine i'm like horizontal i'm laying down i'm so comfy i'm in my like little wearable blanket like i'm so hard to imagine living my best life and i already have tickets like there's just like a sense of peace over me by taylor swift okay all right well best of luck thank you best of luck for your um beyonce tickets when that happens thank you my rachel of the week is uh sherry papanini she faked her own kidnapping so she could get back together with her ex-boyfriend iconic which led to three weeks of searching not icon it was a multi-state search before she resurfaced on thanksgiving in 2016 so i wanted to bring something festive for the holiday season you're really in a fast

this is our thanks as our modern family thanksgiving episode yeah uh so she's 40 years old pleaded guilty last spring to staging an abduction and lying to the fbi about it In part of the plea bargain, she was required to pay more than $300,000 in restitution. The judge said that he considered the seriousness of the offense and the sheer number of people who were impacted. They included the law enforcement officers who searched for her, the community that believed that for four years that she had been abducted because she kept lying after she resurfaced. okay and then uh those who lived in fear because of her fake story of being adopted by two hispanic women so then the racism is in there and the latino community uh that was falsely viewed with suspicion it's like she watched gone girl and like didn't finish exactly exactly this is bad

this is like a bad gone girl fanfic and like you messed up so she never gave like a rational explanation for her behavior which included months of careful planning before she disappeared and temporarily abandoning her two children her actions stumped even independent medical mental health experts who said that they couldn't conform with any type of typical diagnosis she offered no explanation during the brief tearful comments that she made before the judge she also took money from real victims like because people raised money for her like when she was found like oh to get back on your feet yep what did she do when she like was fake abducted was she just like sitting at like a motel oh don't worry i'll tell you uh yeah she was just hiding

out and then uh some passerbys found her it's like literally gone girl found her with bindings on her body a swollen nose and a blurred brand on her right shoulder bruises and rashes across her body marks on her wrists and ankles and marks on her left forearm all of which were self-inflicted and were designed to go with her story so she watched gone girl and was like this is a tutorial step by step step one she went to like wiki how how to fake your own abduction yeah see amy dune wasn't racist right and also like wait you left your kids and so she was found on thanks was it like a thanksgiving surprise yeah well found to no no was that her plan though was it like about thanksgiving like you're so thankful you found me like it's a little on the nose yeah still

on november 8th she was ordered to serve she still i feel like got off pretty leniently 36 months of supervision after her release a year longer than probation officers had sought the twin charges carried a maximum possibility of 25 years in prison i mean i think like i'm assuming she'd give back all the money give it all back and she also has to pay three hundred thousand dollars i mean she'll never be a danger to anyone right now besides like herself and maybe her kids i don't know where they are i can't i can't imagine they're with her but but i mean like her being in jail doesn't really do much yeah you know it's kind of like yeah i'm just like just like i think like you know how we have like a sex offender registry which like i'm not pro sex

offender at all but like there's also a lot of issues with the sex offender right no no with the registry i'm saying like there's a lot of issues with the registry if you specifically look um there's a lot of uh you know people who are white who are not on there and there's a a lot of people who aren't white who are disproportionately on there because racism and convictions and shit but i feel like we should have like this a similar kind of like registry for like people who've done crimes that are just like fucking this i want to know that i live next door to this yeah you know like you should have to let me know that you're moving next door to me because like maybe i want to become your friend and see like hear all about this or maybe i want

to avoid the shit out of you but like i want to know i need to know before i don't want to know that i don't want to learn this from you yeah i don't want my neighbor to be like oh yeah by the way this happened to me yeah i need to know first so sherry have fun i guess i don't know yeah sure what's going on sherry yeah sherry what the fuck like no man is worth this what does he look like imagine sherry calls in the podcast but his dick was so big and like you just needed to know no but he was a gemini okay sherry what's your sign and also sherry what was the what was the long term game plan because like did this work for you like did you think that like this was successful like what happened like with gone girl we got to follow her around we got to see what she was doing

but like sherry you just pop in pop out i need the details did you vlog this experience done an early vlog miss y'all can look it up i'm not gonna share but let me just show you this man for that man you are kidding me for that wilderness coors light joe rogan man yeah did it work no do you feel silly oh i didn't even know this hold on are you on perez hilton no this is daily mail okay same vibe same layout yeah so source daily mail we'll take it with a grain of salt she's also married to who somebody that is neil patrick harris very much more attracted neil patrick harris i'm sorry one of these is a clean shaven kind of more beautiful and they looking man they look like they're on a pj too neil patrick

harris other one scruffy ben affleck bitch really fucking saw that and was like watch this they left that out of the other article of course daily mail is gonna come with the real dirt i was reading one from like nbc news or something they're keeping it keeping it classy yeah no give me the dirt you're fucking kidding me also this is a picture that is on his facebook well he stormed the capitol yeah you are kidding me so has anyone asked rosamund piger neil patrick harris or ben affleck for comment on this jillian flynn has she been asked for comment wow wow wow cherry wow okay i don't endorse bad people having book deals and profiting off of them i just want to interview i just want i don't even know i honestly want to date it i want a daily

vlog i want oh oprah to no actually i want gail to interview her z-way isn't gonna make jokes i need gail well can gail come in first then can z-way do one afterwards yeah that'll work because i would love to see this i would love to see this woman in her element and then i would love to see this woman flustered as fuck what the fuck sherry well that is our thanksgiving episode are you are you so stuffed well if you want to get double stuffed come back tomorrow are you a little oreo come back tomorrow for fisting friday to get double stuffed you didn't see where i was going with that no i did i did i was going to tell you that i got some gluten-free like fake oreos and i've never i don't know if i've had real oreos i don't love oreos don't actual oreos actual oreos

are gluten-free no i think no i think they are no i think it's that they're dairy-free but they have gelatin in them so they're not vegan that's the thing they are vegan they're not gluten-free they're dairy-free and vegan treat since the launch and since the launch oh despite the creamy center filling the cookie contains no milk i love what they say that as like a they've had to like make that now be like oh look like now we're being allergen inclusive like when before and like truthfully you're like that's weird then like what is this made out of so um so they've always been vegan and dairy-free there's some flavors like the golden ones have like honey in them so they're not vegan but they're still dairy-free well we hope y'all enjoyed this episode tell us

what you're eating head on over to our instagram and comment like what are you eating and i i will if you put what you're eating i'm gonna give you a fair assessment from me from my point of view she'll review like those fucking tiktoks like you should do that for the some tiktok content like people who'd film their thanksgiving meals on tiktok you should review them i should you're right my tiktok is still locked down but yeah i mean you're it's deserved i made a new one yesterday that i think you'll enjoy too enjoying the same ways that you enjoy i saw it there's two skipped it the crab leg was really good no i saw the crab legs and then i saw your face pop up and I said not today, bitch.

Not right now. I'm not in the mindset. I have to prepare. Maybe I'll watch them during lunch. Yeah. If it won't fuck my appetite up. It won't. It'll be very pleasing to your palate.

That's disgusting. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to wait until I'm done eating. Anyways, we hope you all enjoyed. Leave a review on the podcast app. Do we have any new ones? Probably not. You all need to write.

I know I can't read, but if you can write, write. Can you stop saying that? well because i think reading is a lie because i think you're right we just memorize it's the same thing with learning like i don't think i learned a lot of things i just memorized things like what's the difference between learning and memorizing here's one it's from g zero g easy but it's like good luck but with the zero good luck peep five stars love this show love this show love the host real bees i'll take that i will as a real bitch a real bitch okay we will see you all next time excuse me that is not how we end this show

i'm embarrassed should be we will circle back and here's a tag on yeah we just talked about this we stopped recording we had to start again i cannot believe that i forgot to put this in my list because this is something that i strongly am passionate about you are too and you reminded me when we were ending this i was like you know what i was waiting for you to say in your thanksgiving rant that you can't stand because I hate it. It's that no fucking sitting around in a circle or going one by one and saying what you're thankful for. We do not need a familial circle jerk of us just saying what we're thankful for. Also, I know that it feels like this is the time and the place and the opportunity. But like

of all of the days out of the year, I think it was actually the worst time to sit around and talk about what you're thankful for. As a white person, I'm going to sit here like I'm so thankful that half of my ancestors came here and took over and murdered all of these people so I can be having this turkey what no no no no no wrong time wrong place pick another day but also like why do we need a specific day to do it i don't care i don't care i'm here for the food weird mood like my mouth is stuffed as my stomach is getting stuffed in a non-sexual way and like no like no not at all i i i don't need it i don't need it i don't need it save that for your rachel hollis podcast like save that for your other shit like leave me out of your gratitude

journal blessings peace and blessings okay now we're really done goodbye now for real but am i wrong is a production by me megan ranks and me melissa demont plus diamond imprint productions. Post-production by Coco Lorenz and production assistance by Melanie D. Watson.