Doomed to Fail - BONUS: The Olympics Parts 1-4 - Ancient Olympics to Paris 2024

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

Happy Olympic Opening Ceremony Day!! How did we get here? Join us as we present all four of our Olympics episodes!Ep 1 - Ancient Olympics & Pierre de Coubertin bringing us the modern games in 1896Ep 2 - Hitler's 1936 Olympics & The Domination of Jesse OwensEp 3 - Munich 1972 - The Massacre of the Israeli Olympic Team by TerroristsEp 4 - Atlanta 1996 - The Atlanta Centennial Park Bombing & The Case Against Richard JewellWoo! #teamusa See our individual episodes for sources!https://www.doomedtofailpod.com/ Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

Hi, friends, Taylor from doomed to fail with the podcast that brings you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures twice a week, every week. And surprise, I'm here just to drop one more omnibus-ish re-release and all four of our Olympic episodes and one long episode, if you want to listen to it this way, because today is July 26th, and this is the day that the Paris Olympics starts. So join us. We have episode one on the history of the Olympics, how you get an Olympics, and how Pierre de Coproutine brought them back. Episode two on the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. Episode three on the 1972 Munich Massacre and episode four on the 1996 Atlanta bombing and Richard Jules, the accusation of Richard Jule. So hope you enjoy. Here's to a peaceful sportsman-like Olympics and we will see you on the other side. Thank you so much. If you have questions or things you want us to cover, we're at Doomed to Fillpod at gmail.com. Please tell your friends. The matter of the people of the state of California versus Hortthall James Simpson, case number

B-A-019. And so my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. And we are live and recording. Welcome to Doom to Fail. The twice-weekly podcast hosted by myself Fars and Taylor about things that are doomed to fail hi Taylor how are you I am good how are you that was a great intro I got feedback from my husband that was very like your intro does that better was that better intro that was for sure should I ask Juan to rate it yeah maybe write us one or something yeah cry about it yeah one once you do one better oh yeah yeah make your own twice a week podcast about I don't that are doomed to fail and then you do your I'm derailing okay anyways um so happy

sunday happy father's day happy fathers all the fathers all there and dog fathers count so happy father's day to me um and one who I just uh railed against um heavy to my victim um okay anyways so we are off to another topic and I think Taylor I go first this time. I thought I did, but you can. I don't care. Um, because we did last week, I went, you went first. You did you Sarah that I had a reaction. So I go first. You go. Okay. Um, okay. Um, okay, well, now I feel like I'm not ready. Now I feel kind of thrown into this. Um, cool. You were going to go first anyways. I know. I'm just kidding. Okay. Um, I, as I told you last week, I'm going to do a four-part series starting today. Um, um, um, um, I, I, I, as I told you last week, um,

And this should be an entire podcast, but on its own. I'm sure that it is because there's like a thousand different stories to tell about this thing. I'm going to do, I'm going to tell you some stories about an event that is about to happen in Paris. Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, Olympics. The Olympics. The Olympics, indeed. So today, let's talk about the ancient Olympics, what they looked like, who was there.

and then the revival in the late 1800s, early 1900s, how you get in the Olympics, and then what's going on in Paris right now as they're getting ready to host the Olympics starting in July. Then part two will be Olympics, but now Hitler is here, which will be pre-1950 Olympics. So I'm going to tell the story of the 1936 Berlin Olympics and some other anecdotes that happen between then and then. Part three will be, they're even more political. It's going to be civil rights involved.

There's going to be the massacre at Munich involved. And that will get us from 1950 to 1980. And then part four will be about Los Angeles and the police, the Atlanta bombing. Honestly, I can't remember what that was about. So I'm excited to try to remember that. I don't remember at all. Who did that or white? Richard Jewell, was that his name?

Was that him or was that the guy who we thought did it? That's the guy that we thought did it. But really, it was a white supremacist. who is now at the Supermax ADX in Florence, Colorado. Nice. I know that because I was like, I started like looking up weird prison stories and I found out what ADX Florence was.

I was like, this sounds like hell on earth. Who would possibly be here? It was like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. All the days.

We'll talk about that in part four. There's also going to be some fun stories. You know, like we'll talk about the Jamaican bobsled team because that's a delight and like all the things. So we'll talk about little things, but there's some big mean stories.

But today, let's start us off with what the Olympics were, where they were, and then how they were done. Cool. Sweet. Do you enjoy the Olympics first? You're going to be shocked to hear that I do not. I'm going to kind of love them. And I know it's stupid and I don't care. I cry every time.

I'm going to talk more about that later. So in ancient Greece, the Olympic Games took place every four years, four year time span is called an Olympiad, if you ever want. to put your life into those quadrants. You can say, I went to high school for an Olympiad. I think you can say that because it's four years. You are total nerd. Don't you sound cooler than that? Anyway, they

took place every four years from 776 BC to 339 AD. So, a long time. They were mostly a religious event. Like, yes, there were sports, but it was had a religious context, and it was to celebrate Zeus.

There's a few myths on like why they do this for Zeus and like why this came up but essentially like the Greek and Roman gods are always like wrestling each other and fighting and trying to figure out who's the strongest so sports were you know the same the same thing for for humans and all free greek males could compete so it was all all dudes they had to be free so they couldn't be a slave but anyone from like a poor person working in a shop to a king or an emperor could compete and eventually they would become the Panhellenic games, which means like more of Greece, but this is basically the Olympics in Olympia.

Women had their own games. They were called the Herrera Games, and they would have one race every time the Olympics was done. And it was a 190 meter race, and it was divided into groups based on age. So, like, you would win based on your age group, just like the 5K that I was in that did I win. But that you did participate in and a newspaper did not recognize. Indeed. Got it. Thank you for remembering.

So the one thing that women could do is they could own a chariot. And when a chariot won a race, the owner was the one who got the prize. And so in 396 BC and 392 BC, Kiniska, the daughter of a Spartan king, did win the victory wreath, which is like an olive wreath, those two years. So she's the only woman who won in the ancient Olympics. It's because she owned a chariot. And that was something that she was allowed to do. So there were games all over Greece. These people were sporty, like I said.

The most common one was Olympia. So now they have like excavated stadiums. It could hold 40,000 people, like the big stadium that they had there. It's also where the great statue of Zeus, which was one of the seven wonders of the ancient world was as well. So it sounds like it was pretty fun. Pretty awesome there. They had a lot of stuff. Huge stadiums.

They probably had a ton of infrastructure. It was like a big party for Zeus. Obviously, they're like slaughtering all these animals to Zeus. But really that means it's a barbecue. What's to meet. Yeah. Everyone's eating. There's like vendors outside selling stuff like dumb t-shirts.

You know, like you get it at a concert. I mean that sounds fun. Yeah. So all this stuff is happening. They're probably tailgating in some way as well. The stadium in Olympia would be rebuilt a few times during like the thousand years of the ancient Olympics. and when it wasn't a stadium, it was a wheat field because Olympia wasn't really populated except during that time.

So they would grow wheat in the field and then harvest it and then have the Olympics again. Every Olympiad, which is how long? Four years. Perfect. So I don't basically talking to the Summer Olympics. So there was a book that I did not read that I was trying to find a book to read about this. And I found one on Amazon, but I couldn't find it at the library and like all the things. So I read some articles instead.

but one of the reviews was like this book on the ancient Olympics doesn't talk about the winter Olympics at all like do you think they were fucking skiing in Greece a thousand years ago, 2000 years ago? No, what was talking about?

I mean, yeah, I guess if it's invented in Greece it doesn't make sense. There's no like bobsled. There's no luge in ancient Greece. You know, it's just like obviously that I'll talk about when the winter games came but we're talking summer Olympics. We're not talking winter.

And all honestly, it's really the summer olympics that we're excited about like the winter is like whatever but winter has figure skating and that's always fun and space skating also fun um but but yeah no we're just talking summer summer olympics everyone who participated in the olympics was naked which seems hard like i don't have i have girl parts but like if i'm not running with like seven sports bras on it's really really hard to run. So it feels like it'd be hard to run a race naked. I don't know. I mean, I could, I could. You're okay with it? I think I'd be okay with it. I think I'd probably do better

naked. All right. Because they want to like be out of eyesight as quickly as possible. That's fair. Everyone's looking at you and you're like terrified like running as possible. I like that. That makes sense. Some of the things that started off in the ancient Olympics, some of the games that were played. There was wrestling, obviously, and boxing. There was something called the pancreasian. I didn't know how I say it. P-A-N-K-R-A-T-I-O-N, which is both wrestling and boxing, and there are no rules. It's kind of like M-M-A, I feel like, but like really there are no rules. So some of the people who are like famous for being ancient people who were in this, in this event one guy his name was archion he was in the middle of this like wrestle punch battle

and he was being strangled i'm acting this out for you he was being strangled with like one arm from the guy that the guy was strangling him then archion took his hand and crushed the guy's foot and the guy screaming out in pain and he gave up like raised the finger to like i give up and as soon as he did that the guy died anyway so he won post-mortem the guy who crushed the foot is the one died mm-hmm weird that he took his last bit of strength to crush the foot and then he died but he won because the guy had surrendered or like tapped out tapped out um one guy named milan of croaton he was huge he was like a famously huge guy he would bring in his own cow when the olympic started like on his back like he would hold it like paul bunyan this all sounds like

bullshit this all sounds like weird myth building he would hold the cow on his back and then he would eat the whole cow in one day just to prove how big and strong he was then he would drink nine bottles of wine and then he'd go out and and do this event and then eventually he he was like 40 he couldn't do it anymore which is fair and um he lost his last his last fight in the olympics but even though he lost they like held him up and they were like he's a champion like we really like you know he's a legend and then later he died because he was trying to pull up a tree stump by himself with his bare hands and he got tangled up in the tree and he got eaten by wolves this is all this is probably not true but it's fun i know but what a fun story

yeah but you could anybody anybody could be anybody back then because whoever makes the most audacious stupid lie is like only I don't know whatever we can move on I know that's what makes it fun yeah even if ancient history isn't true

you have to believe it yeah I think that's the damn crawling thing another guy named so Stress of Sion his signature move is he would break fingers so I feel like he'd be like oh man I don't want to go in there with that guy

gonna break my hand you know so there was that that there was a long jump where you would hold weights that were like kind of like a like a curve like half a circle with like a handle and the weight would help you jump further you know so you would like throw yourself forward with the weight that's how they would long jump does that make sense would that work um i did watch a recreation of it and it like kind of worked i feel like you're weighted down so you can't even get enough inertia but you're like throwing yourself with the weights, I feel like that would totally work.

Yeah. Do we know why they stopped doing it? Well, they stopped doing the whole thing. So I'll tell you why they stopped doing the whole thing. Yeah. So there were javelin and discus, which we still have today, chariot races. The very first Olympic game was probably the stadium, which is that 190 meter race. And that's where the word stadium comes from.

So that 190 meter race was called the stadium. That's where we get the word stadium. there's also a pentathlon and i think there's a modern pentathlon that is a little bit different because the ancient one was running long jump discus throw javelin throw in wrestling i think we took out wrestling and added something else in the pentathlon um but there's that people actually i mean actually obviously died in these little bit games whether it was from you know exhaustion or being beat up or being murdered or whatever um and technically the greeks invented sports medicine because they had a lot of people to take care of after these you know yeah of course imagine all the shins um

other countries weren't there obviously but it was just like different greek city states like against each other so there's a lot of like nationalism like there's now like you're excited for your country um another thing is like when you were running races it wasn't to break records it was just to win that's probably because you couldn't like accurately time something you know i mean yeah there's no photo finish. You're not going to, like, break it down to the seconds or milliseconds, really. Yeah. Sometimes emperors would do it. So a little bit toward the end of the ancient Olympic Games, Emperor Augustus held a revival. And King Herod from the Bible, he helped pay for it. So it's happening on then. You'll remember that Nero wanted to win everything. And he would win a

bunch. He won a chariot race, even though he fell off his chariot. I mean, he's aero. Good for him. So obviously, like, he did a bunch of it. But the ancient game stopped in 393 because Theodosius, the first, or maybe his son, they're not 100% sure, just said, cut it out. It was probably because, like, polytheism was going out of fashion, and it was a thing for Zeus, also the temple burned down. So they just, like, stopped doing it around then. And there were still, like, games around the area, but nothing like the Olympics. Like, you know, hundreds of thousands and people would come to these games to watch them to sell their things it was like a huge deal and they stopped doing it around 393 80 um so let's talk about the modern olympics for a little bit

so like i said i love the olympics i think they're super fun they're almost impossible to watch because like cable stations will have them and they like some of them will have commentary and some of them won't and they'll be at weird times and they make it as hard as humanly possible to watch them on TV. Let me ask you, what do you love about them? I like a sporting event. I like stories of people who work really, really hard all their lives for like their one thing and then they get it. And I like the part where all of the countries come out and they're all dressed differently and they're all like really excited and happy to be. They're really proud. And I like when I like watching the metal. I do the whole thing. Like watching the metal count. That's really exciting. I'm just happy

the people who have like something to do. Does you make sense? I don't know. I think it's fun that people get together and do a thing. And then like as we're going to talk about in the next month, we can't just get together and have a good time. Because people are terrible. But if we could, how fun would that be?

I mostly like the things that are fun and cool to watch. Like I think, you know, like that figure is getting. is incredible. I think that gymnastics, it is always incredible to watch that. But I also think about the people who've spent like 15, 20 years

becoming the best at something kind of useless. I mean, like the curling people or like the archery people where I'm like, you're never going to be on a serial box. You're never going to how are you going to turn this and like you could have literally just learned a skill in that time

well no i get it but like then what they'd be like the best accountant at their accounting firm who cares well no i just look at them like like it sucks that somebody could become the best that's something that is kind of useless and leaves them kind of sort of you know i know but i but i I'm laughing because I'm like, yeah, but like, I'm not the best of anything. Well, I mean, you know, like, if I, I'm not going to agree with you. I'm the best at like one random ass sport. Like, that's really cool. But I, so the other thing, Taylor, is like, I look at basketball in the, in the Olympics,

and I just do not understand it because it's supposed to be amateur, it's supposed to be amateur sports. That's the whole point of the Olympics. And then the U.S. takes LeBron, James, Steph Curry, like the greatest by leaps and bounds in the sport and puts them on a team and calls the team USA. And it's like, what is, how is this sandwich for sports? Like, these are the. Well, I think that they changed that in 1994, right? Let's talk about it later because we'll talk about the game team.

And I had that's really great CD that had a bunch of songs. on it, including, I think, possibly songs, a lot of songs I Will Smith on it, but they changed that rule. But it's amateurs on purpose, and I'm going to tell you who decided it should be amateurs. And then we can go from there. Let's keep learning.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I agree. That is weird. And also, we, like, didn't win last time. I don't remember. I definitely don't watch the basketball stuff. I watch the ice skating in the, anyways, go ahead. So, okay.

ancient olympics done things are romans the greeks empires blah blah blah they're not doing it anymore so modern olympic i did go to a special olympics opening ceremony in la and i cried the entire time it was lovely it was so fun everyone was so excited see if you wonder sang a song michel obama was there it was and the kennedy's when was that it was in florence was a baby so it must have been in 2015 wait the olympics were in l.a when we were there the special olympic Oh, the special Olympics. The Olympics are going to be in L.A. in 2028. No way.

The next Summer Olympics will be in L.A. And we're definitely going to something weird. Like something weird that you can get tickets to. You know, like, that you can get tickets to. Yeah. Okay. That was the other thing I was going to say that, like, I am turned off by the Olympics. It feels like a luxury thing to attend.

It feels like you have to be like in the upper, upper, upper class, even consider attending. I mean, especially if you travel, you know, if I'm like, oh, I'm going to travel to Paris. to go watch the Olympics, it's going to cost me so much more than normally would to travel to Paris because of the Olympics. And then I have to buy the tickets and stay in an expensive hotel and like, blah, blah, blah. I'm sure that like you can't get an Airbnb in Paris in July at the moment. So yes, it's a very privilege to be able to go to for sure. And it's a privilege. I think there are some, you know, obviously like we've seen in films. I'm thinking of the cutting edge. But like, you know, if your child wants to be an Olympian and something and they're

good if you keep doing it, it is such a time and money commitment. It's like crazy for a family. You know? Yeah. Like I mean, yeah. Like if you want it your kid to be a master figure state or like that's like, yeah, we've all seen the Nancy Kerrigan, Tanya Harding movie. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh gosh, I didn't even think about that. I'm going to put on my list of things to talk about. So now it is 1894. And we are in France. And there is a dude. His name is Pierre Day, Cobartine.

We'll call him Pierre. He's an aristocrat. He's a rich guy. He goes to boarding school. Most people at the boarding school go home, you know, sometimes. He stays there the whole time. It becomes pretty religious. And after he's done, he's like, okay, what do I do now with my life?

He could pretty much do anything. He has a lot of money. And he goes to England, like on vacation. And he sees all, he's like, oh, the people here are. in much better physical shape than the French, and they work well together, and he attributes it to physical education. So he sees, like, people in England, you know, playing sports and doing things as a team, and he's like, this will be helpful when there's a war that they already know how to work together, and we're not doing that in France, and we're, like, not prepared to work together in this

way. So he goes back to France and tries to start, like, a physical education revival thing in France but it doesn't really work out but um it does give him an idea to start the modern olympics so he's like let's give people an opportunity to like work in a team to train to like be physically active because it really wasn't that in France this is what's why he did it so there's a lot of back and forth but he creates the international Olympic committee which is still around wait till you basically saying that from 300 whatever AD until the 1800s it was in olympics yes that's wild okay yeah i mean it was like frenchman that did it yeah weird right because he was like these french guys need to up their ante sort of working out yeah like stop just

having wine and cigarettes and baguettes and run with your cigarettes run with your cigarettes there we go get naked and run because you're embarrassed until you're not embarrassed anymore um so um the first Olympic first modern Olympics were in 1896 in Athens the second were in Paris and 1900 sometimes they were coordinated around the world's fair so it'll be like at the same time that the world's fair was but finally in 1906 it kind of like gets going and rolls into what more of what we know today somehow pierre the man who brought the Olympics back won a gold medal in poetry which feels like that is not currently an event that is the opposite of a sport But whatever.

And so there's some criticism about, about him, like, he was definitely like a romantic and idealized ancient Greece and was like, this is going to bring world peace. This is going to bring people together. People are going to love this. And it does not, obviously. Humans don't want world peace. Humans don't want peace. Like, it's just not in our DNA.

No. But he, but I mean, you. know, bless his heart, I can see how you would think that it could, you know, but it didn't. So a little friendly competition between all the people. So that's going. The Winter Olympics start in 1924, and those include the things like bob sledding, curling, ice hockey, Nordic skiing, which is like the one where you cross-country ski and then shoot a gun. Have you seen that one? No.

You're like, cross-country, yes. You cross-country ski and then you shoot like a target. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. Like, if you had just worked at Burger King, the griddle at Burger King for like those 25 years, you could have owned a Burger King, but instead all you learned how to do was a leisure sport like ski and shooting gun, which points to the fact that like why I'm kind of against the Olympics in this context, because it's like only only the Uber, Uber, Uber, Uber, Uber, rich can possibly have that. Is there only thing they do for like 20 years? A thousand percent. So I agree. Yes.

I totally agree with that. It's definitely a rich person's sport. A lot of these things are. Like, Princess Zara, who has Prince William's cousin, she was, like, in the Olympics for, like, horses. You're like, well, of course you were a fucking princess. You can have a horse and be in it all the time and learn how to ride it really well, you know? Whatever. um but the um sorry dogs were barking yes understood but you know what i mean and then like but

also like you only have one life shit you got like something go do it we'll talk about more inspirational stories we'll talk about inspirational stories of poor people doing this i mean the vast majority of my resentment towards everything has to the fact that it's ritual can do it so i can't and therefore my resentment builds no that's totally fair totally fair um So, yeah, there's, there's the, the, whatever, whatever it's called, like the cross-country skiing and shooting. I'm going to look at it. It's called something. Oh, it's called the biathlon.

It's just skiing and shooting. Anyway, bias. Okay. Cut that out. No, no. We don't, we don't, we, do you really want me to cut that out? No, it's fine. I was going to say.

It was like 20 minutes where I was Googling. You can cut it out. If I told you. that my hobby is to fish and then when I catch a bass detonate a bomb it's like you don't mean like it's like no it doesn't make it's it's like well it comes from okay so it comes from the Norwegian military because they that's how they would have to learn how to fight is they would cross-country ski and then shoot because it's cool to shit up there it's so charming I wish I was in a war as like a Nordic soldier you've come around um no and then there's

also like I remember one time oh gosh I'll talk about this maybe later but There used to be like ski dancing who would like dance on their skis in like the 80s. So there's like some sports come and go. Some are more popular than others. But two things I wanted to note about the winter versus the summer Olympics. One is both come from my childhood. So one, I did report on speed skating in fourth grade and I had to write a letter to like the American Speed Skating Association. And they sent me back like a bunch of pamphlets and a poster.

And it was very cute. That's very cute. That's how you, that's how you researched. in the 80s. And then, oh my God, I remember, so the last Winter Olympics,

they used to be the same year as the Summer Olympics. Do you remember this? So they were always held the same year. The last one was in 1992, where the Summer Olympics and the Winter Olympics

were held in the same year, then they'd wait four years, and then they would, you know, do it together again. They changed it so that then the next one was in 1996, so it kind of like pushed it out a little bit,

and now they're every two years. It's one of the other. But it changed in the 90s. And I remember I had this fucking bitch of a English teacher in sixth grade. And this is when people were, this was like a thing that was in the news. And she was like, let's talk about something that is in the news right now that is like, we could have like a debate about or whatever. And I like, raise my hand.

And I was like, what about the Olympics? And she was like, already decided that. That's dumb. She told me I was dumb. She was such a bitch. And so I always think about her when I think about the Winter Olympics and I wish I didn't. And then last night, I was like, I hope she's dead. I looked it up.

dead. She died in 2021. I read her obituary and I smiled like three times because I was like, I'm so got my bitch and dad. Taylor, when I was in like second grade, it was like a weekend and my mom took me my brother to like the local park and it was like springtime. And so blue bonnets were everywhere. And I picked a blue bonnet so I could take it to my teacher on Monday. And I gave her my teacher and she took me outside of the classroom. She grabbed my arm and took me outside the classroom. It's like picking a blue bonnet, which is a state flower of Texas is illegal. And this is a crime. And this is a crime. and she basically made me seem like I was a criminal for trying to give her a flower and I don't remember her name I cried for like fucking weeks after that and I now as an adult I'm like I hope you're dead I was dead too I'm so sorry what a piece of shit yeah I'm kidding yeah what a bitch um anyways if you're a teacher if you're a teacher be better yeah and you know that we remember you yeah we will remember you and we will sweat you and we will wish bad karma on you. I know I think a teacher's hard, but she was terrible.

So that's when they separated. So now the question you're asking is, how do I get my city to host an Olympics, Taylor? That's what I was, because I would love to do this. Yes. I would love to have all of this. I'd love to spend billions of dollars, really. I'll make itching to do it. Does it host in the Olympics almost always inevitably bankrupt the host city?

Yeah, it's horrible. Yeah. So the IOC will have a bid. the International Olympic Committee has a bid for the game. So you have to kind of like fight for the game. Even to bid, it's tens of millions of dollars. So you have to like put together infrastructure plans. You know, you have to like do marketing, put up your case, all the things.

It's settled about seven years in advance. So Paris announced its intention to bid for this year in 2015. And it ended up going down to Paris and Los Angeles for this year. And they made a deal that Paris got this year and L.A. gets 2020. So once you get it, now you're in trouble because you have to build Olympic villages. You have to build more transportation. You have to build the Atlanta airport was new in the 90s because of the Olympics. You have to like rebuild everything.

Some of the Olympics had it have like absolutely insane price points. The Beijing Olympics in 2008 reportedly cost around $45 billion. And the Sochi Olympics exceeded. 50 billion in 2014 because that was in Russia also had no they probably had nothing infrastructure wise to be exactly but I will say if you're the mayor of a city a really incredible way to completely fuck over your successor is to win the Olympic bid because at the time yeah you're going to look like a superhero like oh my god do you believe Paris the guy at Paris did this and like fuck the guy in seven years Western has to execute on all this oh my god let me tell you

the Paris mayor in a little bit, which what her deal is. So, yes. And of course, also, like, there are to build these things if they're like, aren't things already. Because you have to build, like, all sorts of stadiums. So the, you have to move people around. So in both Rio and Beijing and everywhere, they're doing it in Paris right now. They're displacing unhoused people and people who, like, live in the areas that they need. In Beijing, they displaced 1.5 million people. And they were doing things like just putting up walls between the Olympic stadiums and like really poor neighborhoods. So you couldn't see

them. Of course. Um, so. How else did you do it? No, I know. But there's also then, like, now they're going to displace the rich people. I know. But like, but so that's what I'll tell you. That's what people in France are protesting right now is they're like, couldn't we use this money to help

the poor people? Rather than like box them up behind a wall. Like, you're the first one kicked out of this behind the wall. Yes. Whoever raised the topic. Exactly. So their building is huge buildings in record time.

So they're cutting corners. And what do you do with them afterwards? Like, do you need 17 stadiums in your city? You probably don't. So a lot of the ones like in Beijing are like in ruins already. Like they're like falling apart. No one needed them. No one uses them.

So now it's 2024 for everyone to listen to this in the future. And Paris, France had Olympics in 1900 and in 1924. So it's been 100 years since they've had their last Olympics. This year, they're hosting the Summer Olympics. It starts on July 26th. And the Paralympics start right after. So the Paralympics is for people with, like, physical disabilities. They'll be right after also in Paris.

They're going to be games in 16 other cities around Paris, like in the Paris metropolitan area, and one in Tahiti, which France technically still owns part of. Some of the stadiums already existed and were renovated. Some fun things is beach volleyball. it's going to be held in a park in front of the Eiffel Tower. It's fun. Yeah, that'll be delightful. The equestrian events and the modern pentathlon will be held at Versailles. Super cool.

Very cool. The, oh, guess what the first, do you want to do what the new sport is this year? I could not even venture a guess. Break dancing. I guess that's as much of a sport as skiing down still and fucking shooting a gun is. Yes. So breaktancing the first time, which will be super fun. And the mascot, John Oliver talked about this other day, the mascot is this like cap called the syrigan.

It's like a French cap. It's like a red cap that kind of like pops over. So it looks like two weird droplets of blood, but it's like a cap. It's very strange. But there's like people dressed like it and like waving. That's their mascot this year. There's already some problems happening already. There are some security concerns.

France, obviously, they are, they love protesting. They're big protesters. So there's going to be a lot of protests. The Qatari Amir is coming. So they've got to be extra security for that. Japan and the United States are modernizing their command structure. That's supposed to be able to like help with security. Do you know who the U.S.

ambassador to Japan is right now. No clue. It's Rahm Emanuel. I just feel like I didn't know that. Weird. Weird, right? Man, that guy can be good for himself, huh? What a fucking job.

He's been crushing it since like 2008. Like, good for him. I know. They are worried about the opening ceremonies, that there might be some sort of like attack or violent protests or something. So it's been cut down. Initially, you could just show up. and now you have to have like a special ticket like they're going to be really careful and hopefully

everything is is okay um but the fun thing that involves the mayor of paris and mcrone the french president is that they want the swimming events to be held in the sun which is the river that goes to paris did you just watch under paris no what's that oh my god it is a Netflix movie the the all of the dead bodies? No, it is a shark movie and it's based on people doing a competition in the sun which is incredible.

Yeah, you gotta watch it. It's very, very stupid. It is dumber than shit. Open like three bottles of wine for you and one and then have the kids asleep and then just like after your first bottle is done when you're a little bit tipsy then start playing in. It's fun. It looks really fun. No, I like

I love one because I won with like the crocodiles or like the all over Florida like eating people in a hurricane. It was great. No, that's exciting. But yeah, it's in this end. So you have not been able, you have not been allowed to swim in this end since 1923. And that was before the last time that Paris hosted the Olympics 100 years ago. That's how dirty it is. It's like parts of it have like no life. It has no life in it. Like you're so fish. There's no, like it's full of E. coli. It's like really, really gross. And it's not ready. So it's today's June 16th. It's going to start in a month or so. The river is not ready. They're going to spend $1.2 billion to clean it up. And the mayor of Paris has said that she will swim in it. And so did Macron, but they're both keep pushing their dates back because it's just like still disgusting. And then people are protesting. And there's a hashtag that's in French that I do not. I'm not going to venture to say out loud. But the hashtag is I shit in the sun on June 23rd, which is a whole bunch of people.

are planning to shit in the Sen prior to the mayor swimming in it and there's like a website that you can go to to show where you are in the send like upriver and what time you should poop so that your poop gets there at the certain at the right time. People are nuts this is why you can't have nice things.

Yes, this is what I can't nice things. So that's that's what's happening in Paris right now. We will see what happens and of course other things are happening like underpaid illegal immigrants are building the buildings. A lot of unhouse people have been displaced. They're definitely not. prepared for the influx of people and events. So we'll see how they do, but we'll learn all about it as we move up to it. And I think then I should be we should be pretty much done

with this series by the time it starts. So we'll know a lot about it by the time we get to the Olympics and we can talk as a group about our favorite events and what's happening. If we can figure out how to watch it without like getting our parents cable password and trying to figure out how to get it on TV and then watching it without commentary in some ways and that's always so annoying but I'm super excited for gymnastics I'm excited for the running um I'm excited for a lot of it wait the mayor of Paris is a Hispanic socialist woman yeah when did this I do not keep up with other countries politics and Hidalgo Spanish-born French politician has been she's been mayor of Paris for 10 years so we're way

behind. We're way she's from the socialist party oh yeah she's literally wait she was born in Spain that is like weird I'm shocked that French people are that

open about things they seem like an uppity people right yeah it looks like she moved to France there were refugees in France after the Spanish Civil War

Man they must be super liberal in France or in Paris I think they are I think that's part of all the all the protests and such she gets to live oh my God

she gets to live in this huge palace really yeah the Hotel de ville super fun anyway I'm excited that's how it started that's what's going on right now and then next week I will talk about the 1936 Berlin Olympics which was hosted by Hitler and also I learned in this research that Berlin tried to host again and they've been on a thing a couple times and people are like no you've lost your privilege you can maybe do it in Hamburg but, like, you cannot do it in Berlin again, so. Berlin's dope, though. I love Berlin.

I know, Berlin's awesome. But, like, you know, we'll see if they ever let them do it again. Um, this palace the mayor lives in is insane. I know. Like, what on earth is this thing? Oh, my God. It looks like Versailles. It does.

Um, hey. I just want like higher ceilings. You should, um, you should watch that movie. It's really fun. The whole thing is about swimming in the sand and how they find this shark and the shark tracks itself into the sun and yeah it's a whole it's a whole thing that sounds amazing i love that i love um the i mean i love well i love thinking talking about paris and how like the catacombs of paris is like built on top of a bunch of dead people anyway it's terrifying yeah

that was super fun and then um yeah i love the idea of being chased by a shark i had a friend who was going to swim from Staten Island to Ellis Island one time and she asked me and Juan to be her partners or we would be in a canoe and she would be swimming but then she ended up getting sick and not being able to do it but I was like 100% yes I'll be your canoe person and we would like canoe next to her and like give her snacks that's a lot of responsibility I think

I know but I was like this thing's awesome I'm bummed we never did it because I think that would have been really fun well as always next time sweet well this is exciting our topics are actually going to overlap this week kind of like sort of almost but they're like sweet a little bit little bit there's something there so please um yeah please friends if you have something about the little things that you love or like a little story that you want to want to hear more about let me know because i'm going to do like the big ones but also some other fun little stories in there too so um let us know what you think

we're at doom to fell pod at gmail.com um we had a couple people write in Kiara said it's a bunch of ideas that I'll forward over to you for us so you can you can have that and then Nadine our friend Nadine is in London right now and she was just telling me

that she was in London which is super fun so I asked her to report back if she sees that weird ass painting of the king so creepy did you hear you got banalized yes it's so stupid has the balls and grommet on it about cheese or something yeah it's what it is but yeah

on all of the socials that doomed to fail pod. I swear to God, I'm going to get our website working. I'm going to potentially murder someone, but now I have stopped even trying to do C names and text records, and I'm now moving the URL over to Squarespace. All right. There you have it. We will have a website soon,

seemingly. Who the fuck knows. We'll try our best. Well, thank you. Thank you, Taylor. Thank you for sharing. Excited. Always love your multi-part series, and this one's especially topical given the Olympics. And yeah, there's so much richness to, like, the topic.

You got, like, what happened in Munich. You got, like, the Nancy Kerrigan situation I just mentioned. You got the Atlantic Bond. There's a lot that's wrapped up in it. You know, I might have to add, like, just, like, fun scandals as, like, a last one or something that we'll talk about. Because there's, like, all of the drugs. The doping, uh, project at gris, all that stuff. Like, yeah.

There's a lot to it. Yeah. So we'll see. Um, sweet. Anything else you want to, uh, say before. we wrap? Nope. All right to us again

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Boom. We are back, Taylor. Happy, happy, happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. A nice, smooth, easy week so far. Hopefully it's been easy for all of our listeners as well. And for you, Taylor. I mean, they're all exactly the same. They're exactly the same. I know. This is our life. Taylor, are you going to be introducing us because you fired me from that role? Welcome, friends, the doomed to fail. We're the podcast that brings you twice a week. Histories. Most. epic disasters and notorious failures i am taylor joined by farz far's doing well i'm doing well uh is is is one like revising and writing scripts on this or he needs to be i mean he's the one with the opinion so tell your friends um yeah yeah anyway it's my turn today it's your turn

oh we're going to do a guessing game or is it going to be futile um well i told you what I was going to do last week because I'm doing a four-part series. Olympics. We're in part two. Thank you. Part two. So we are going to talk about the Olympics between the beginning and 1950. And a lot of stuff happens.

And I read several books this week. I have a lot of articles in the notes. But the two books that I read, one of them was called Games of Deception, the true story of the first U.S. Olympic basketball team. And then I read triumph. for the untold story of Jesse Owens and Hitler's Olympics. I also not for this, but in the last couple of years, I have read a book called Hitler's American Model, the United States in the making of Nazi race law. So I'm going to talk about that a little bit. And then I have some

articles as well that I read. So we will kind of get to all of that. I kind of go back and forth in this story. I'm not sure how organized I am. But it's super interesting. So let's talk about it. Last, to recap, last week, we talked about the ancient Olympics, how you get an Olympics and some stuff to prep for the Olympics this year. Have you seen more Olympics news since then, Fars? Is it like in your algorithm now? It is not. It is not.

Luckily, luckily the overlords have not discovered this. Well, hopefully we'll get there. So we're going to go to Germany, to Hitler's Germany, specifically for the 1936 Olympics. And before that, let's talk about other things that happened up until. 1936. So as we learned, the Olympics were sort of restarted at the very, very end of the 1800s. And there were a couple, they were tied to like world fairs and trying to get it to be popular again. In 1906, the Olympic Games were held in Athens. They're not officially recognized as Olympic Games now because of like some rule thing that I don't understand. But they were more organized than the other ones and got people kind of to be like, okay, we actually can do this. And every four years, you know? And what? No, sweet.

So a couple of things that we know that we like, well, we people who have seen the Olympics and like remember parts of it that you kind of like think have always been there. One thing is this one in 1906 started the parade of nations. So do you know what that is? Everyone walks in. So Greece will always start and the host nation always ends. And everything else is in alphabetical order. So to just sidetrack about that tradition, so someone will, every country has someone carry the flag.

And in the beginning, you would, when you pass the host city's leaders, like the people in charge of the host committee, the president, whatever, the people in charge of the country, you would dip your flag. So one person's carrying your country's flag, you would dip the flag. that is something that almost immediately stopped happening because in the early 1900s there were games in London and an Irish-American person was a flag holder and he was like, fuck you, England. And he did not dip the flag to the king because Irish, obviously, like a lot of animosity between those folks.

So, and then so they kind of stopped doing it. And so you don't really see that anymore. There's also an Olympic salute, which is raising your right hand kind of off to the side, but it looks a lot like a Nazi salute. It sounds like a sick hill. Like almost exactly. So they stopped doing that in like the 1940s because they were like, yeah,

this looks a little bit too much like the Hitler salute and we don't want anyone to do that. So now you just kind of like walk by and like maybe wave, maybe have your hands over your heart, something like respectful, but you don't do any sort of like special salute. In the 1912 Olympic Games were held in Stockholm. And the big thing there, Jim Thorpe won gold medals in both the pentathlon and the decathlon. He was stripped of his medals due to the amateur rules, but he got them awarded post-human post-death in 1983. 1912 is also the first time they used electric timing, start timing things. So things can get a little bit more accurate because people are winning by like, speaking of like measurements by like tenths of a second, you know.

So in 1920, they were in Antwerp. and this was the introduction of the Olympic flag, which is those five rings that we see all the time, and the first Olympic oath. So every Olympics, one athlete will take an oath on behalf of everyone. It's basically like, I'm going to be a good sport and try my best and blah, blah, blah. Great. So that still happens, that happened in 1920. Was it a flame around at this point? Not yet.

Not yet. Good question. So in 1924 was the debut of the Winter Olympics. So they were held separately, but the first time like figure skating was in the summer Olympics.

I was kind of like figuring that out in 1924. There was a man named Pavonormi who was the Flying Finn from Finland who won five gold medals in track and field, which was like a huge, so he became like really famous from that. In 1928, and Amsterdam was the first time women were allowed to compete.

so before this it's just been just been dudes so now women are allowed to compete and this is when the Olympic flame is introduced in what year 1928 got it and the Amsterdam games in 1932 the games were in Los Angeles and another person a woman named Mildred Zaharius she won two gold medals That was a big deal. It was obviously 1932 was the Great Depression. So the games, they actually did a really good job organizing them. And it was the first time they built an Olympic village for the athletes. And so that was like something that Los Angeles was credited for.

So those are just some like fun facts about things that happened at the other Olympics. I'm sure there's like inspirational stories, but we're not going to have time for that. But I'm sure they exist. So 1936. We are in. Berlin. This is what we're going to talk about for the most part today. Some of the fun facts is this was the first time that the Olympics were televised live. So this is like a new technology. You could only really see it like in and around Berlin. But still it was a technology. So like there's a story where like the athletes are in the Olympic Village and they're able to watch the competition. That's the first time that it ever happened. People were like this is happening now like super big deal that it was live. Just for context, 50 years after the first time we can televise the Olympic game in the immediate vicinity where the game is taking place, we launched the Hubble telescope that can take a picture of 250,000 galaxies in deep space and show us the origination point of the Earth. Things are moving too fast.

Crazy. Anyway, go ahead. I know. You're totally right. And then this was also the first time that the flame was lit in Greece and brought to the host city. So that tradition started here. And they still do that now. So, like, someone in Greece will light and then they, like, run it all over the world, you know?

And then they bring it to the final place. Did you know that? Yeah. That's pretty cool. So. Is it true, though? Is it really true? Has that really been the same flame for all those years?

I think it's a new flame every time, but it like, come. But maybe it is the same flame. It just keeps going. I mean, who would know if it wasn't? True. What do you, the DNA test of flame? Exactly. What are you going to do?

Like, I feel like someone's probably fallen or, like, drop. dropped it or left it at a bar, you know. I'm sure there's something. My dad told me this story. I don't know if it's true. And I have no, no sources for this where, like, a Canadian team won the Stanley Cup. And they had a party in the next morning, like, one of the guys' neighbors called him and was like, dude, you left the Stanley Cup on the lawn. I do love the idea of, like, some German runner getting drunk is some beerhole and leaving the Olympic flame there.

Yeah. I think someone, didn't someone recently drop, like, the World Cup trophy off a bus? like in the middle of the parade. I feel like he dropped it and it was pretty funny. So we're in Berlin again. Berlin got the Olympics in 1931. So they talked about before you get the okay to host Olympics like 10 to five years before you actually host them.

So 1931, Berlin got the games. And that was a very different Germany than the Germany of 1936. So Hitler became chancellor on January 30th, 1933. and the Nazis are now in power, and they're starting to do, they've already done a ton of stuff. It's before Kristallnacht, where they destroy just like thousands of Jewish businesses all over the country. But it is after the Nuremberg rallies. So people can see that the Nazi regime is like really, really strong in Germany. And they do, of course, like every city that hosts the Olympics, try to hide their bad things.

So they do things like declare the week of the opening ceremonies, the week of laughter. They want everybody just be in a good mood. They hide their anti-Semitic posters. So they're like, we still believe this, but no one else is going to understand. So let's like take these posters down. They send thousands of Romani people to concentration camps. They send unhoused people to jail. They are just like, you know, cleaning up the streets any way that they can.

And again, like everybody who hosts the Olympics. They always do this. So they're also like very, very obviously prepping for war. So they're like, oh, no, no, no, no. Like we're super cool. We just like are like Germany. Like whatever, no big deal. But like people are getting there to compete in the games.

And they're like, are they building tanks next door? Because they totally are. You know, like it's very clear that they're prepping for war. They're going to instigate something big. But they're trying to hide it. They brought back banned books, which. It's ridiculous, but they, like, have them back on the shelves for a little bit so people don't realize that what it's happening. And some big concentration camps have just opened. Soxumhausen just opened. So nobody ever didn't know that this stuff was happening, but they were like trying their best to hide it. A little bit of just history is that eventually 30 people who had won Olympic medals from around Europe were killed in concentration camps eventually because they were Jewish. One really. good. A couple examples. They're just so sad. A young man, they're all very, very young, named Bronislaw

Czech. He was an alpine jumper from Poland. He died in Auschwitz. Victor Perez was a French boxer. He died in the walk out of Auschwitz in 1945. He was only 33. But while they were in the concentration camps, they would make him like box other people, even though he was like an Olympian, you know, and like make him hurt people for like their sport. Brannislaw, check, they offered him Clemency if he would coach the German high jumping or alpine jumping team and he said no

so he ended up dying there as well. I mean I probably would have done it. My prize is not worth that much. So we're going to focus on the 1936 summer Olympics because that's the big one. But there was a 1936 German Olympics. It was

in Garmish Parton Kirshin, Germany from February 6 to February 16th. It was the only winter game that have ever been held in Germany. It was the last one before the war. It was really militarized. So by the time the summer games happen, there will be less military.

So like in the first, in the winter games, they had like, everyone was wearing their uniforms. Like the SS was there. Hitler youth were all wearing their uniforms. So they really, it was really intimidating and scary.

People were like, they said it and they saw it. So by the time the Summer Olympics happened, they're a little bit less militarized. Like they just like, they're not, but they look a little bit less. So, like, the Hitler youth get to wear, like, later hosen instead of their terrifying uniforms,

just to, like, kind of balance it and look less scary. It's kind of more scary when they're not wearing the uniform. It's like when, like, a kid is evil. And it's, like, the fact that they're a kid and don't look evil is what makes it more scary. And, like, also, I don't know, have you, you've been to Germany. Yeah. Everyone looks the same. I mean, I can't say that, but.

You don't, no, not you, you, you can't. Everyone, German is tall and blonde. Like, they look the same. They kind of engineered it that way, though. Exactly. So, like, they, like, this is like, going there and seeing everybody, like, being like, we're super happy. You'd be like, okay, like, you're very, you're really stressing me out, German children, especially in this time. So some of the, some other, just facts about those Winter Olympics, there were 28 countries that participated. It was Liechtenstein's first time. And everything, like, kind of went okay but everything was covered in swastikas people were a little bit creeped out so that there was but why were they creeped out they didn't know what that meant of that time they did they knew like they knew that they were like

persecuting Jewish people they knew that they were you know fascists like they knew those things and then they like saw the way that they were acting you know like it was creepy and weird has there ever been a time when a political symbol being used for by a country was a good thing I don't know I can't think of a single time

when you get like nationalistic and I know that Ben Franklin wanted our national bird to be a turkey you learned that in elementary school that's a little different that would be instead of a bald eagle that would have been very cute in Super Troopers 2

Farva shoots a bird and it like falls out and they go Farver that's a bald eagle it's like really funny well I'm thinking okay so the Hammer and Sickle, that was the communist symbol. And that became the national flag of the USSR. The swastika was the Nazi symbol.

That became the national flag of German. Like, I don't think it's ever been a good thing. And so actually, I wrote this down later, but let me skip to it. Because we looked this up last night, I wrote, Juan asked a good question. So last night, Juan, they're watching a movie that I'm going to tell you about in a little bit. But so the current German flag is three colors. It's black, red, and gold, like three bars. that flag was adopted after World War I

because you'll remember that like Germany is just newly unified so before World War I it like barely had time to be a country before World War I happened it was like a bunch of little like principalities or whatever and then it became one thing so that was a German flag then when the Nazis came into power they changed it to black white red so their colors but still the three bars and then it just became the swastika that we all know like the red with the white circle and the swastika and that became germany's flag and then after world war i wrote then they just said fuck it it's a swastika that's like they made it that and then after world war two it went back to where it had been that's

what it is today interesting well i guess yeah given how new a country it was nobody's attached to the flag at that point like yeah like whatever making a swastika who cares I mean, it's not good, but still. I also follow a Instagram account called Old Hollywood Swoon, and they always talk about how handsome Captain Von Trapp is from Sound of Music. Have you seen Sound of Music? Yes. Guess the answer to that. I don't know. He can surprise me. So there's a part where he gets home from his honeymoon in Austria and they have put Nazi flags up on his house and he takes them down and tears them up. And then the Instagram account is always, was like, girls only want one thing, and it's Captain Von Trapp, like, tearing up a Nazi flag. Wait, was Donald Sutherland this guy? No.

Oh, okay. Um, no. Um, anyway. He's a real person? Yeah. Where the sound of music's a real story? Yes. Okay.

I went, yeah, we can talk about this later. I know a lot of the sound of music, but yes, the Von Traps are real. and Captain Von Trapp he did a thing in World War I where he killed a lot of people in a submarine and there's a couple like things about his past that are interesting that we can talk about later we're in the summer Olympics now

there's swastikas everywhere some of the stuff that happened like in the background is Hitler's obviously like super excited to have Aryans win everything because that's his philosophy deal yeah He's kind of known, he's kind of known for this. Yeah, that's his thing.

And so it's fun to be like, we really showed him because we have some, you know, black people from America won a bunch of events. And like, that's great. But we have to remember. And we'll talk about this a bunch that in America, Hitler was literally looking at the way that we segregated race as a model for what they were going to do in Germany. They obviously went further. But that was like, it was, he knew that that was a.

America had no moral ground to stand on when there's segregation and horrible inequality in America in 1936, you know? So there were, like I said, black and Jewish athletes on the American teams, but it wasn't easy for them to get on there and they were treated differently. Some of them didn't go out of, you know,

people knew what was going on in Germany and people would say, like, don't go, we should boycott this. And then some of them, them were like, let's show them that we can do this. So there's like one Jewish person on the U.S. basketball team. And like he was very brave to go, you know, but he was like, we have to show them like we are plates and all the things. It's all amateurs like, like we said before, but there are like amateur leagues that people are in. And if you're like, there are a couple ways to get in.

If you're really, really good, you're going to get like sponsored and be able to get in. If you are like, oh, if you're rich, you can also get in. You know, mean like if you're rich and you have the time to like practice and do all these things you'll be able to get in so in germany they were like yeah yeah yeah totally if you're a member of an amateur club you can be in the olympics like we're not discriminating against anyone but like no jewish person could join the amateur clubs so it was like he didn't say that you know but obviously no there there's no no jewish people in there um 49 countries were in the olympics around 4,000 athletes competed the Soviet Union didn't go.

I feel so bad for athletes when there's like, even like the one that was moved for COVID or when they like, their country decides to boycott it because like we said last week, like you train your whole life for this like one thing. And if you, the four years difference is huge. Yeah. Like you're not going to be the same person when you're like 28.

You will be when you're 32. Yeah. So, so, you know, some people did did boycott. But let's talk about something. things that happened before we talk about some of other stories. So there were the opening ceremonies, obviously, which is like the big pomp thing. And the biggest question was like, who was going to do the Nazi salute? Because Hitler was there.

And, you know, in the book I read, it talks about like, you could tell when Hitler was coming because people were like losing their fucking minds on the street. You know, like hundreds of thousands of people, like giving the Nazi salute. So excited to see him in the arena. They're so excited that he's there. And so who is going to salute him and who isn't? most countries didn't um some of them did like obviously like japan did the the nazi salute the bulgarians fucking loved it and they stepped it up and did goose steps they were like we love you like they were super into it um the u.s. walked by with their hands on their hearts um the some of them did the

Olympic salute which was close but like it's easy it's easy for them later to give it on television on television 1936 it'll look the same exactly so they were like oh no the Olympic So you're like, yeah, whatever. So there was a lot of, a lot of that happening. Also, the Hindenberg was there, which is kind of fun. The Hindenberg flew over a couple times. So all of this is being recorded by Lenny Riefenstahl. Have you ever heard of her?

No. Okay, so I wrote, this bitch deserves her own episode. Because I'll probably talk about her maybe next year on Women's History Month, because she's so interesting. But she was a German filmmaker. And so she made the movie The Triumph of the Will, which is about the Nuremberg, rallies, like the big Nazi rallies. And she made a movie called Olympia about the Olympics. So she was

Hitler's like documentarian. And she got to live to be 101. Like she got off. Like she was like at Hitler's house, like good friends with him and making this propaganda for him. And she got to live to be 101, which I think is absolutely bullshit. And I did read a book called Hitler's Furies about like the women in in Iraq in his circle and then like another one that pisses me off it's like Ilsa Koch she was the bitch of Buchanwald she was a terrible terrible terrible person

and she died by suicide in 1960s or fuck her to the moon and back so fuck her boyfriend doll but I did watch her movie last night on YouTube you can you can see it's there's no way you watch Triumph of the Will no I watched Olympia

I think I've seen parts of Triumph of the Will but I watched Olympia which is the one that she made so there's like stories of her, like, you know, running around with her cameras, fighting with garbles, trying to, like, make sure that she could see everything. So she recorded the opening ceremonies. The first, like, 10 minutes or, like, this really weird, like, artsy thing with, like, um, scarves in the air and the Acropolis and, like, all these things. And then she has the, some of the, um, some of the athletics in there. So she, there's no way to understand how excited the Germans were

about this. So, like, no way to, like, understand underestimate or underestimate or underestimate. But, like, they were so excited about this and so the movie shows them you know like in the streets and in the crowds just like being super excited um another fun thing is they let out hundreds of birds at the end and they pooped on everyone which is hilarious predictably um but if you do watch it i'll put the link to the the youtube version i watched there's a bunch of them but at a minute 58 is when you can see jesse owens doing the doing the long jump that we'll talk about but that's that's what you'll want to see after this after this episode so that's where you want to go um taylor um lenny uh

rivenshaw thank you um she has a website that's still up and active and the home page looks like a nazi's site like the font and the colors and everything look at but then if you click on her biography just shows all these like pictures of her being a cool awesome having a great life. There's a picture of her with Mick Jagger for some reason. Ugh. Yeah. Do you believe that she like saw September 11th? There's her with

those two tiger guys. What are their names? Siegfried and Roy. Thank you. Yeah, she lived a great life. I mean, not a well-lived life. No, but it is absolute bullshit that she got off.

Yeah. Totally. I definitely want to talk more about her later. So there are several black people there. There were other black, especially track and field folks on the U.S. teams. And I'll talk a little bit about them later. The, oh, one more thing. Oh, in 1955, Refinished All agreed to remove some Hitler from her movie so she could have it screened to the Museum of Modern Art in New York. work like oh guess who else was there um the nazi charles lindberg was there and he sat next to guring

the whole time and talked about the air force wait actual linberg was there yeah yeah because he was like an american but he was obviously also a nazi which we've mentioned in passing before so he was super excited to be there and like meet with especially goring who who was in charge of of the German Air Force. Yeah. So that's opening ceremonies. Another thing to note is Hitler's plan was for the next one. The 1940 Olympics would plan to be in Tokyo.

And then after that, they would just all be in Germany. Of course, because they would win everything. Right. Like that would, they would be in Germany for, you know, the thousand years of the Reich or whatever. Also to note, these stadiums that they built in 1936, later they would be the places where they would do mass shootings, you know. like as the world was ending as like their world was crumbling they would do like last minute shootings in there um the i read a book about basketball because there's like a big basketball story

here that i'll tell you about but the nuremberg um after the nuremberg trials the people who were hung they were um it was on a basketball court so it's like basketball became like a national sport and it's where um they ended up actually like executing a lot of the nazis on basketball court which is just creepy interesting yeah so let's talk about the u.s team So the United States team, again, for amateurs, they got there in kind of a roundabout way because Olympics is pretty new. But like track and field is actually pretty popular. People like know good track and field people. So other sports are starting to get more popular.

And the teams would qualify, but then like not have enough money to get to New York because they had to take a boat from New York to Europe. So they would do things like fundraise in their communities to be like, you know, we need $1,000 to get this basketball team all the way over to New York City. There were qualifiers on Randall's Island, which is right next to Astoria Queens, like on the Triborough Bridge. And the swimming trials were in a pool in Astoria Queens that I used to live right next to. One and I lived right next to this pool. It was like a beautiful outdoor pool. And it had like a diving area and like an Olympic-sized pool. And it would be open in the summer for people to go in and swim.

That was built specifically for that. During the qualifiers on Randall's Island, President Roosevelt was there. to help kick them off. And also, a young boy from Queens named Anthony Benedetto sang at the opening of the Olympic trials in 1936 and later he would be Tony Bennett. No way. It's kind of fun. Yeah.

What was he saying? Anthony Benedict. Anthony Benedetto. That's so cute. Isn't that cute? So he was nine years old. Is he still alive? No, he just died like last year.

I was looked at up. Yeah. But he, I saw him. sing one time and he was I mean obviously it was insane but yeah I thought that was fun

so it's a little Italian boy from Queens so the U.S. team once everybody qualified like you know whatever they and they get to New York

to go to Europe they take a ship called the SS Manhattan from New York City so once on board they had a ton of food and that's something that they talk about

every book I read like the food was really good they had a bunch of drinks Jesse Owens was a little bit C-sick, so he didn't eat a lot. One fun story, there's a woman swimmer named Eleanor Holm. She seems fun. She got kicked off the team for being drunk every night. And she was like, even drinking, I'm going to beat every world record.

Like, what is wrong with you? And she said, quote, this chaperone came up to me and told me it was time to go to bed. God, it was about 9 o'clock. And who wanted to go down in the basement and sleep anyway? I said to her, oh, is it really bedtime? Did you make the Olympic team or did I? And I had a few glasses of champagne. I love that for her.

So she was fun. She was married a bunch. She was in movies with another Olympian that was there, who won the decathlon. She was married to a Hollywood guy. This is like later, just like a fun side. And she got divorced. And her alimony was $30,000 per month, which is equivalent to $340,000 today. Oh, shit.

Which is dumb and amazing. So she's great. She's in the swimming hall of fame. she seems fun. At the pier when the SS Manhattan was going off to Europe, one dude, there was one dude with a sign that was like, don't go. Like, the Nazis are bad. Don't go. But obviously they went. Once I got to Germany, there were a bunch of Germans there waiting for them, looking all the same, you know, being really happy to see them. The men got to stay in an Olympic village that was very nice. And I have pictures of like Jesse Owens's room.

Olympic Village is now like a museum. But it was very nice. They had chefs that made food from all over the world, which is very interesting. They had German chefs making Indian food. You know, like, I'm really impressive. I'm sure it tasted amazing. I'm sure Germans cooking Indian food came out. That Germans, like,

they made Japanese food. Like, that is pretty impressive. That they would, like, bother to do that. The women, of course, were in a shitty dorm with, like, no food, and they slept on straw mattresses. But the men's dorm was really nice in the Olympic Village. Fun. Yeah. So,

okay. Tell you next question. Yes, please ask questions. Are you going to talk about Helen Mayer more? No. Okay. Who is that? So when the boycott was being kind of bandied about from other countries,

Hitler allowed one Jewish woman to take part. Her name is Helen Mayer. And she ended up having to flee the country after. I bet she did. She won silver and I have no idea what she won silver and it's called women's foil. I don't know what that means. I think it's fencing. It says German fencer fencer.

That's cool. Good for her. I mean, it's, yeah, really crazy. And she, yeah. She looks cool. Because I'm also like, do you win or do you lose? Because if you lose, you prove to them that you're not superior. But if you win, you put it in their face that you are superior.

Like, what do you do? You leave as fast as you can. You leave as fast as you can. Exactly right. Oh, poor thing. She died of cancer. Yeah, no, there's so many stories of like little ones that I'd love to talk about. And I didn't get to that one.

But yeah, that's super interesting. Yeah. So, okay, I have couples for us to tell you about. basketball. So I read a book about basketball, because basketball was, like, relatively new during this time. This was the first time basketball was in the Olympics. James Naismith, who's the dude who invented basketball, he did it similarly to the peer who started the Olympics. He thought that people needed more sportsmanship, more physical activity. He introduced it at a YMCA and they would bring it around to college campuses. The rules would change a little bit, but essentially he's a person that, like, invented modern basketball. he the people on the basketball team played for amateur basketball teams which like they stopped playing on like a team which seems rational but whatever and a lot of them came from the universal pictures basketball team which is fun that they had one and um there were these were the guys who needed to fundraise and eventually they would lose their uh lose their jobs and when they came back there wouldn't be a team anymore but they did get to go uh to do it um the team was entirely white There was one Jewish person on the team. James Naismith actually got to go. So when he got there, no one really knew who he was.

And then someone said, he's a guy who invented basketball. And then he got more of a welcome and he got like tickets to go see it. But he was there. And the U.S. did win. They won the gold. But they played against like a bunch of other teams who played it a little bit differently against it was like brand new. The way that they had made the ball, they made it have like, stitches like a football you can't dribble that because the stitches are in the way yeah you know

the film the team from the philippines was so good they considered having a separate category for short people because they were so good but they didn't stand a chance and um the final game was in outside in a flooded field that was like covered two inches in mud and then they had like the ball was like totally waterlogged and they had to like try to get it to work and the the USB Canada 19 to 8 in the final game and won the gold battle. Right now you could put LeBron James against

all 10, actually put them against every person combined and you just I should have 1,000 to 1 point? A thousand percent. Yeah, but it's brand new which is kind of fun that it's like a brand new sport pretty much for the world and then it gets into the Olympics. Another thing about boats,

George Clooney made a movie called The Boys in the Boat. I didn't watch it, but like it's like another Olympic feel good movie it was kids from the University of Washington they ended up narrowly you know what I mean they ended up beating the Germans and the Italians which was great but

that's that's what happened I'm sure there's like personal struggles in there as well in the movie that I didn't watch doesn't matter the personal struggles of people that have been dead for 100 years don't really matter Germany's metal count like they kind of blew it out of the water

101 to the U.S. which is number two of 57 in 1936 yeah nice yeah probably as i mean home to advantage that's probably a thing but i guess what it really boils down to is like you don't really care that your country was number one and again not to make fun of curling i know we have a lot of curling listeners out there but if you win gold and curling it's not nobody's going to care as much of you win gold in like thicker skating or in like gymnastics right yeah and i think it's like a matter of percentages too of course, like the United States in China and Russia always have the most medals in all of the Olympics, because they have most people, you know? And if you're like, if 0.001% of population is great at gymnastics, like, you know, that's a lot more people here than it is in France. Right. You know? Um, so yeah, I think that they have a lot more athletes too, just in general. But like, I think that's on purpose because they were, you know, trying to prove that they won. So, okay, the reason that we're here is to talk about. track and talk about Jesse Owens. Do you know who Jesse Owens is? Yeah, of course. So my cousin and

Juan's cousin both went to the Ohio State University where Jesse Owens went. And I texted them both. And I was like, is there Jesse Owens stuff at Ohio State that like talks about him? And one of the cousins sent me back said, yes, every single sports thing is named after him and sent me a website to an archive that has like his papers from when he went to Germany, tons of pictures from his life. It's super, super helpful. And then the other cousin said, is that a football thing? Which made me laugh. Which I can almost understand because Ohio State is so up and up its own ass about football. Yeah. The Ohio State University. No. I know. Um, yes, Jesse Owens is, was the fastest man in the world, uh, during in 1936. Who is the fastest man in the world today?

It's still got to be Usain Bolt, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you seen the videos of him, like, slowing down and laughing? Like, he's just so fast. He does the thumbs up. He stops and he does the thumbs. It's so cool.

He's so fast. Yes. Usain Bull is the fastest man in the world right now. Jesse Owens was the fastest man in the world in 1936. And, like, it's a shame that we can't put them in the same circumstances and have them race. You know, like, if Jesse Owens had access to trainers, or even like skin-tight clothing, you know, what could he have done differently? And who would win?

Like, all that stuff was really fun to think about. So James Cleveland Owens was born September 12th, 1913 in Alabama. He was the grandson of an enslaved person and his parents were sharecroppers. They moved to Ohio when he was nine for like better opportunities. And when he was in school, his teacher asked him his name and he said J.C., which is James Cleveland, but she heard Jesse. That's what she wrote down. became his name because he had like a really thick southern accent and she didn't understand

what he was saying so he became jessie jesse owens will always be working besides doing track and besides going to school and besides having a family he had a ton of jobs his whole life well he was in junior high he was working to deliver groceries after school but his track coach charles riley knew there was something special like saw him running and was like this is this is different and convinced him to run before school. So before school, he would run. He'd go to school, then he'd work all night, just like always, always busy. He met his wife, Minnie Ruth Solomon, when they were in junior high.

So they were like always together. They had their first child in 1932, and they didn't get married until 1935. But during this time, while he's in high school, he's a new dad, he's working all these jobs. he is breaking records like unbelievable. He equaled the world record in the 100 yard dash and the long jump in 1933 at the National High School Championships. In college, he's going to get a whole bunch of other awards. I'll talk about in a second.

But just to note him and Minnie, they get married on July 5th, 1935, and they'll be married until his death. So, and he has two more children with her. Do you have a question? No. Okay. So he's at Ohio State. He is great, but he doesn't get a scholarship because he's black.

You know, like, that's just, he's still, like, fighting against that. The team is a traveling team, but he has to travel separately from everybody else. He can't stay in the same hotels that they stay at and he can't eat the same food that they eat. Because there's a lot of places that just, like, literally won't let him in. Yeah, that's not a green book situation. So he has a job with a local legislature. He has a job at a gas station, which is like a bunch of other jobs while he's running track. while he's in school, while he's on the traveling team, he goes to LA and it's in the papers

that he's hanging out with this woman who's like a socialite. And then his wife is pissed, obviously, because she's at home with a baby. And as soon as he gets home, they get married. Because he was like, sorry. In 1935 and 1936, he won eight gold medals in the NCAA championships, four in each. That record wouldn't be beat until 2006. So he was just like winning medals. one of the biggest days in sports was March 25th, 1935, during the Big Ten track meet in Ann Arbor. He set three world records and tied a fourth. So he's like this college kid, just like literally setting world records. He did a world record for the long jump at 26 feet and 8 and a quarter inches, which would last 25 years.

He got a goal in the 220-yard sprint, the 220-yard low hurdles. And like the way he would run the hurdles wasn't like the right. we had to run it. He would just, like, run really fast and, like, kind of hop and, like, do it again. But he was still so much faster than everybody else, that didn't matter. I do. When I see them do their hurdles and I see them kick their legs up, I'm like, that looks so much harder to do it that way than to, like, just hop over it. Totally. So he would just, like, hop over it. But he was still faster than everybody else. Yeah. And a lot of those records are actually, like, double records because, like,

like, 220 yards is, like, X amount of meters or whatever. So he's just, like, kick an ass. Right. Taking names. So now it's time to get ready for the Olympics. Like he knows that he's going to go and he qualifies obviously pretty easily. A couple of people try to get him not to go, specifically the NAACP, you know, want the black athletes to boycott it because of Nazis. And the, I know this because I know a lot about the Roosevelt administration, but the president of the NWACP at this time wrote Owens a letter, but he didn't. ended up not sending it,

but his name is Walter White, and that always makes he laugh because I think of Breaking Bad. Of course. Yeah. So, but he is going. He does go. He passed all the trials.

Obviously, there's a bunch of other people that are with him. He's on the SS Manhattan with everyone. He was very seasick the whole time, but he gets there and, like, gets his balance again. It's like ready to run. There's two conflicting stories I read about shoes.

One of them is probably not true that Adi Dasler of Adidas sponsored his shoes that gave him shoes. And then, another one that he didn't have any shoes. So his coach bought them off the rack for him. Just like regular shoes, they didn't have time to break them in. That one's probably more true than another one. He's in the Olympic Village.

His diary, I read that in the Ohio Archive. He's having a good time. He's like, the food's good. Everyone's super nice because that was true. So it's also important to note that he's not the only black person on the team. There are 18 black athletes that go to Germany. I have a link to an article from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. that has some notes on them.

But, you know, these were all, like, young men, like kids who were going to Europe to win these awards for their country and he's going home to a segregated America, you know. So John Woodruff, who won the 800 meter, after he got home, he said, quote, after the Olympics, he had a track meet to run in Annapolis at the Naval Academy. Now, here I am, an Olympic champion. And they told the coach that I couldn't run. I couldn't come. So I stayed home because of discrimination.

That let me know just what the situation was. Things hadn't changed. Things hadn't changed. You know? Yeah, it's nuts. Nuts. So against all odds, the Germans are pumped about Jesse Owens because it's just so fast. And they're just like really excited to see him, you know?

And so Hitler gets pissed because they cheer for him all the time. And Hitler's there and he's always mad about it. Hitler does greet the first handful of gold medal winners. And I think like you said, as far as a lot of the gold medal winners are German. So the first couple events, Germans win. He greets them in like his box or whatever. And then he leaves before the first black person win something.

And they were like, oh, he's busy or whatever. And then someone was like, you can't do this. Like this is a bad look. So he didn't greet anybody else. So he didn't look like he was discriminating. Obviously he was. Did he think that only Germans were going to win? or only like people were going to win.

That was the hope. And that's what it would be like, that was his Olympics. His Olympics would be like white people against white people forever. That was a plan. I know. And so he,

um, there are rumors that he wait, he did wave at Jesse Owens when he started winning his medals. He may have, he may have done his like little half hile that he does sometimes. Who knows what really happened. But like they never met. He never actually like shook his hand.

Like they never talked to each other. Um, Jesse Owens did say, quote, Hitler didn't stub me It was our president who stubbed me The president didn't even send me a telegram Which is true and fair Roosevelt didn't send him anything He should have

What FDR? Yeah Weird So and then Hitler later was like Oh he was up later he was like Yeah we definitely need to ban black people From the future Olympics Because they have an unfair advantage

Because they're closer to living in the jungle Which is exactly something that Hitler would say When he was losing You know, I don't need to say what an asshole, but you know what I mean. So back to running, Jesse Owens easily qualified for each of the things. So he didn't just run. He did a couple dashes. He did a long jump and he ended up doing the relay as well.

So he made a good friend with a German man named Luce Long, L-U-Z. I'm literally on his Wikipedia page right now. So Luce Long and Jesse Owens were legitimately friends. There's a couple of stories like Jesse has had that. Luce helped him with something but that's probably not true they probably met after the meet this is what that

minute 58 on the Lenny Riefenstall movie shows them in doing the long jump together and they show like Jesse Owens he wins but there's pictures of them walking arm and arm and this is like a tall man who looks like a Nazi he's like blonde you know very German yeah his I mean his

their track suits have swastis on them I mean obviously but like it's just wild oh you can't make it out in the picture it's in like the middle yeah so luce and and jesse become friends they would write letters back and forth um after after the olympics the last letter he sent to jesse owen said can you tell my son about the time that we ran together and people got along and then luce was killed in italy in the invasion of sicily in nineteen forty three and in the 1960s jesse did go back to uh germany and meet with his son and tell him about his father oh yeah um So Jesse Owens wins four gold medals. On August 3rd, he wins 100 meter dash with 10.3 seconds. On August 4th, he wins a long jump. He wins at 26 feet 5 inches, which is still 3.5 inches short of his own world record.

So he didn't beat himself, but he beat everybody else. On August 5th, he won the 200 meter sprint with a time of 20.7 seconds. The second place silver medalist in that event was Mack Robinson, who was the older brother of Jackie Robinson. So the sporty family, the Robinson's. In August 9th, he won his fourth gold medal in the 4x100 meter sprint relay. He, him and another black runner replaced two Jewish runners. And it's a little bit of controversy. Like, why did he replace them at the very end? Usually they don't put their best runners in the relay because they were so good anyway that they were going to win no matter what, even if they weren't the very best. But also then like, why wouldn't you just put your best runners in the relay? So, there's like a whole bunch of back and forth as to why but either way he got his four gold medal and no one would get four gold medals in track until carl lewis did in 1984 so he did great in in the in the Olympics came home with with four with four gold medals and um yeah do you have a question you know can't be weird well no i'm i'm like now you know i was like actually looking

on usain bolt and i mean like i said before like there's some some sports where if you're the best of it you are upset right like you same bowl's going to get 50,000 different contracts from shoe companies a serial company all that stuff what did this guy get nothing yeah that's what I'm thinking I'm like man all this like for what I'm going to tell you what he got he got nothing yeah um I mean today I think around this down everybody would be wearing Jesse Owens track shoes you know like it'd be he have all of the endorsements it'd be a huge deal um but yeah no so at the end of the Olympics Hitler was embarrassed

that all white people didn't win which is great because he sucks but Jesse Owens doesn't have a full-time job he's still in college who was in college during the 1936 Olympics he goes back to Ohio State and this whole time he's been in college

there was like a semester where he wasn't allowed to be on the track team because his grades were failing and I'm like when does this man have time to go to class you know like he's a father he has jobs he has on the track team but he also is going to school

after the games are over he gets sent around Europe to do like exhibitions with the team but he doesn't make any money from that it's sort of like a way for the American Olympic committee to like make back some of the money they spent but doesn't go to the athletes

he does take a few he gets offered some things like some big endorsements but they're all not real they're just to like get in the paper you know to be like oh we offered Jesse Owens $50,000 but they don't know one really like was going to follow through on that he does take a couple low-level endorsements,

which means that the amateur league kicks him out, and now he can't run anymore. He just can't win. Like, there's just no we're waiting for him. When it gets back to New York, like literally the day he gets back to New York, him and his wife can't get a hotel room because no one will let him in because he's black.

Finally, the Hotel Pennsylvania lets them stay where they have to go in through the service entrance. So he comes home, and this is actually something that I just saw via my algorithm on Instagram, but History Channel has a new show that just premiered this week about what happened when he gets back because he gets back and he's just a black guy on racist America.

You know, like it doesn't matter that he was an Olympic hero. He works at gas stations. He would race horses. Like he would run a track next to a horse. Like the horse, he would get like a little of a head start and just like run next to each other. He said, quote, people say it was degrading for an Olympic champion to run against a horse.

but what was I supposed to do? I had four gold medals, but you can't eat four gold medals. So he did a lot of work. He had a dry cleaner that failed. He did work at Ford for a while in the Civil Rights Division. He campaigned against President Roosevelt. He filed her bankruptcy in 1966 and got in trouble for tax evasion. So he was never rich.

He never had a lot of money. Eisenhower sent him around the world as a goodwill ambassador, which is fun. so he became a speaker of a talk he would speak at like colleges he would speak at he got an honorary degree from ohio state i think later so he was like he was sort of those things but it wasn't like lucrative um when jesse owens was 35 he started smoking cigarettes and that's what killed him so he smoked a pack a day from when he was 35 until he died in 1980 of lung cancer lung cancer um and he is buried in in ohio and um he died a march 31st, 1980, Jimmy Carter said, quote, perhaps no athlete better symbolize the human struggle against tyranny, poverty, and racial bigotry after he died. So after these Olympics, there wouldn't be another one. The Olympics in 1940 got canceled and 1944 got canceled. And then the next one would be in 1948 in London. But guess who wasn't invited? Germany. Yep, in Japan. I mean, I don't feel bad for them.

They don't either. They were not invited. So I definitely, there's a bunch of movies about, about Jesse Owens that look, that look good. The book Triumph was really good. It's just like, so exciting to see someone just be excellent at something and so insane to see them not get Eddie, they get treated so terribly when they get home. You know, it's such a big description. So next week, we're going to go from 1950 to 1980 and talk about stuff that happened during those Olympics. So one thing on the Jesse Owens' Wikipedia page that I found really fun and interesting is that in the movie Get Out, the girl's dad who played, oh God, I forgot his name, he was on West Wing.

Yeah, yeah, Bradley, something. Anyways, he's like the bad guy. He apparently said that he lost a qualification round to Jesse Owens in 1936. And that is when he started researching how to replace his brain with the brain of a black person. Crazy, right? Yeah. The movie's wild. Let's watch that again.

It's pretty good. Yeah. Fun. Well, that's not fun. It's not good. It's wild. I mean, I recommend watching Olympia. just like having it's not there aren't a lot of words in it it's mostly just like sounds but

watching that him uh jesse owens and lutzong do the long jump is really cool i'm sure i'm sure yeah looking at the pictures of them it's um you know it kind of it kind of speaks to what you mentioned before to like the whole point of of the limbics just of bringing people together but and like that's kind of how it always felt like on a political level too it's like if the people could talk to each other without the governments then the people would be It's the government's getting in the middle of it that causes issues. I agree. And that relationship you had with that guy, Louis Long was a good example of that.

Yeah, that's cute. Sweet. So our four-parter is down to two more parts. We're going to kick this off again next week. And which parts are we getting to next week? So I know, something happened in 1960. So I have a book that I'm going to read, what is it called? It is called, that's about 1960 in Rome.

It says, let's see, have my thing here. Oh, it says Rome 1960, the Olympics that changed the world. I don't know how it changed the world. I'm going to read that book and tell you. And then I'm also going to talk about the Munich master. Oh, I was going to ask about the Munich one. That movie is amazing. I know.

I don't think I've seen it, but I think I should obviously see it for us. It is very, very, very well done. Yeah. Was it Spielberg that did it? It stuck my memory. Like, it was one of those movies that I just, you just like every now and then are like, what was that memory of I have? And it's like, oh, yeah, that thing, that movie.

Yeah, 2005. Yeah, it was Spielberg. Yeah. Something else I wanted to tell you when you were talking about yours is the guy who wrote the book, Chernobyl, that was like what the show was, like, based off of, not like based off of, but like that book was, like, used to, like, do the HBO show, just wrote a new book on The Challenger. and I'm on the list to get it. Sweet. From the library. I'm on, I'm on, in 14 weeks.

I can, I can listen to it. He wrote Minda and Chernobyl, Adam Higginbotham, but I'm excited to read the Challenger book. Right. Because that's crazy. I would do the space shuttle ones, but they're so, I mean, it is so not obscure. Like, everybody who's paid any attention knows every detail.

Yeah. I know. Well, Taylor, thank you. you for sharing and we have plenty more Olympic news to look forward to in the next two weeks I haven't heard anything about the um um um hoop in the sun yet oh we almost watched the sun movie last night I think we'll watch it tonight the shark one it's so stupid you love it I can't wait um and hopefully by the time we join you again uh those two poor bastards on the international space station on their way home

Godspeed I wonder what they're doing right now I think they have like cards like what are they doing is there nothing just like praying that this all works out I wonder what their internet speed is up there I can download our show anyways anything else to say Taylor that's it no thank you so much if you need anything

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versus Horenthal James Simpson case number B8-019 And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. There we go. We are back up and running my audio. It's probably going to be kind of crappy because I'm in Dallas, but that's the way it goes.

Hi, Taylor. How are you? I'm good. How are you? You're also, like, laying in bed. I'm very relaxed. I know. I just, like, what's the point?

Why am I going to get up and go sit in an office? I'm just going to be holding the laptop this way instead of on a on a desk. So anyways, how's your weekend? Pretty good. I slept all day yesterday. And then today, my family's going to see Planet of the Apes and I'm jealous, but I couldn't make it because I had to do this. Womp, wow. That would have been fun.

I know. Happy to be here with you. Yeah, I'm sure. It's so much better than being in the movies. Um, all right, well, will be intro us? Yes, yes. We decided that you're way better at this than me. Hi, everyone.

Welcome to James to Fail. We are the podcast that brings you history's most notorious failures and epic disasters twice a week, every week. I'm Taylor, joined, as always, by Fars. Hello, Fars. And I just got bad at Fars because he wants to talk about the debate. And I just don't think that it's over yet. And I just don't want to talk about it. it's like all I've talked about for the past like six days with people and I'm just like

I can't um it's going to be a bit of a disappointment for you because I'm going to be discussing presidential debates later oh perfect are you doing Nixon Kennedy no no no I'm like all people talk about this week no I'm kind of exaggerating only a little bit um I'm going to talk about residential races and you know the way things have worked out I'm going to address one specific campaign um but i'm not going to spoil it because i think you go first this week i do i do and i'm going to continue talking about the olympics um if you log into our instagram as us all of all of our algorithm is just olympics and it's very very fun there's like trials happening right now there's divers there's videos of like divers parents crying because they're so excited there's

people breaking records everyone's really fit it's just it's very exciting um so everyone's in trials right now getting ready to go to paris um i bought well i had to buy two pairs of new jeans so i bought new jeans for old navy because i'm i don't know i still feel like that is where i buy jeans and i bought a team usa sweatshirt and then i was like i have too many sweatshirts but i was like i would literally never wear one of those old navy fourth of july t-shirts but i was like i will 100% We're an old Navy team USA sweatshred for no reason. So that's coming because I'm very Olympic out right now. Is it in like 100 degrees where you were?

It is, yes. Okay. I keep a cold in here, cold and expensive in this house. Got it. I don't care. My friend at work, we have like weekly presentations and sometimes it's about work. It's about like data and the internet or whatever. But then sometimes it's about fun stuff.

So I actually did our Able Archer 83 episode on, I did it for my work. I like had a presentation and like did it, did it again. And then my friend Taylor at work, she did one this week about Mothman and other cryptids. And I, to support, I made a tinfoil hat. So my husband walked by the office and it's like, it's dark in here because I keep it really dark. And I have like, I have my satanic temple candle lit. And I'm staring at the computer and I have a tinfoil hat on. So it's a great picture.

It really kept slates what's going on. There's a lot going on there. Yeah. He said to my family. He was like, I don't, I don't know. Let's keep this door closed when I want. Yeah. So, yeah, it's a lot.

I don't know how I got there. Oh, because it's cold in here. And I bought a sweatshirt. But anyway, let's talk all the Olympics again. And this story is fucking horrible. So I apologize to literally everyone that I have to tell you this. We talked about the origins of the Olympics. We talked about ancient and the modern. Last week, we talked about Hitler's 1936 Olympics and Olympics up to 1950. So today, we're going

to do Olympics from 1950 to 1980. There's some fun things. There are some bad things. And there's a very, very, very bad thing. And I've been like kind of sick to my stomach for the past couple days. I'm kind of nervous. You're kind of setting this up the way I set up the tote family murder. It's really fucking honestly The most terrible thing One of those are terrible things I've ever read So I watched a bunch of videos I couldn't find like a really

Like the book that I wanted to read Like I wanted a book about this and I couldn't really figure it out I couldn't get vengeance Which is the book that the movie Munich was based off of It didn't come an audiobook and like I don't have time to actually like sit down and read a book of my eyes So I listened to another book And then a book about the 1960 Olympics

And then a bunch of videos that I will I'll share in the notes oh my first thing is okay this has been an awful week for me i think this might be why i've been depressed and sad all week and this might very very well be why but let's talk about some fun things or other things that happened in the olympics before we get to munich in 1972 um every olympics or every olympics and i'm sure i'm going to miss some of the highlights has like really heroic exciting things everything has a political undertone which we know I think that, like, the dream of Pierre Coubertine was like, this will be something that transcends politics, you know, just athletes and the beauty of sport.

And it's not that. And it can never be that. It's always going to be something political happening. But a couple fun things. I'm going to tell me to list where the Olympics were. And then some ones and things that happened that were fun. So in the 50s, the Winter Olympics were in Oslo, Norway. And in those games, Emil Zapodic of Czechoslovakia won the gold in the 5,000 meter, 10,000 meter, and the marathon, which has never been repeated before.

So he's like a runner, which is cool. Or again. Then they were in Finland, then they were in Italy. In 1956, the Summer Olympics were in Melbourne. The equestrian events were in Stockholm, Sweden, which led me to search, how the fuck do the horses get to Paris? And the answer is, very, very fancy planes. And yeah, so for all of the equestrian events, like, I think I mentioned this in the first episode on the Olympics, but they're going to be at Versailles, which is like real cool. So like in front of Versailles in the gardens, they're making the whatever for the horses to like jump and and shit.

But the horses get there, you know, through Europe, they can probably take a train. But for everywhere else, they have to take like really nice, really fancy airplanes. Once again, showing that many of these Olympic sports are just for the every moment. man to do i actually also just like my husband was sharing me a story of a man who had like taken a little boat across the pacific and he was like oh he did it he got there in like 46 days and i said that sounds like some rich kid shit and he said it looks like his parents are rich and i was like yeah poor people aren't doing that like that's the guy was like was like an interview with him and he was like yeah dude i was like worried and i was like i just hate that rich people shit you

probably get like sponsorships. I mean, I don't think Greta Thunberg is like a millionaire, but like she takes like a private yacht everywhere or sailing yacht or something. She doesn't want, she wants to do carbon neutral. So I think that she just gets sponsored by a bunch of like. To sail everywhere? Yeah. I love that about her. So anyway, exactly.

Aquest union events for the everyday folk. In Melbourne also a couple countries had boycotted that due to political reasons. there was a Suez Canal crisis at the Soviet invasion of Hungary. So things were happening in the 50s and 60s, obviously. The 60s is going to be the Cold War. The Winter Olympics in 1960 were in Squaw Valley, United States. And in the summer, they were in Rome. So I read a book called 1960 Rome, the Olympics that changed the world.

And like, after I was done reading it, I realized that I read the abridged version. And I was like, did they abridge the world changing out of it? Because I didn't really see it. Like, I didn't. Changing out of what? Out of the book. Like, I didn't see any world changing in the book. It was just, like, a typical Olympics, but whatever.

I read the whole book, and I learned a lot about the 1960 Olympics. It's not a grandiosity added to, like, this feat of, I don't know, it's probably one of those things. It's fine. Like, they, one thing that is fair, the USSR, they hosted the trials in 1960, and they were calling out the racism in the United States, which is absolutely. fair because it was, you know, the 1960s. Cassius Clay was there for the first time. He's obviously going to become Muhammad Ali. And as all accounts are, he was very full of himself and, like, very excited.

Another fun story is that he screamed the entire flight there because he didn't want to do it and he was scared. Wait, oh, you didn't want to fly. Yeah, you didn't want to fly. It's the Cold War. I'm not going to talk about doping at all, I think, during this series. But one of the big things that happened. happened at the very first day of the 1960 Olympics. Knude, K-N-U-D, Knude, you know, Jensen, he was, I must have been from Sweden and Norway.

He was competing in the 100-kilometer team trial on his bicycle, and he passed out and died, and he had traces of amphetamines in his blood. So that was like one of the, they haven't before, but it was like a first, like, a really high-profile thing where someone had died and potentially had done it because they were, because they were doping. and I know that like it's also like you know when Lance Armstrong was doing it they were like getting new blood every day you know yeah like really weird like really weird shit so that happened in 1960 Ethiopia was there that was a big deal because they had been invaded by Italy but they were there in Italy for the for the games and Ethiopian Abbe Bikula won the marathon with no shoes on which is incredible because Rome is very cobbly and he did it again in Tokyo the next year, which is super cool, or the next time. Why can Italy invade Ethiopia for? Land?

Weird. You know that, or you're just saying that? Resources, probably. I don't know. Weird, okay. I can look up later. There are the boxing finals where the U.S. versus Italy and the Italians were getting really rowdy and everybody was kind of mad.

And Bing Crosby stood up and sang the Starkey. star-spangled banner to calm everybody down, which would totally work. And I love that because he has such a beautiful voice. So I love that. And then also in 1960, there's a lovely story about a track team of black women called the Tiger Bells. And Wilma Rudolph was the first American woman to win three gold medals. And she won it in track and field during 1960. So that was really fun. I feel like it was world changing, but like fun stuff happened in 1960 in Rome. 1964, they were in Tokyo.

That was the first in Asia and the first televised via satellite. So that was the first time you could actually see it, you know, not live, but like near live or like the same day. In 1968, it was in Mexico City, Mexico, where there were also a bunch of high altitude records were broken because Mexico City is high. It's also, I think it's also a mile high, just like Denver. Did you tell me that? yeah it's one of those things i watch a lot of like like fighting stuff and anybody who goes to mexico city when they have an event like they always just gas out immediately and it's like what just happens like oh they're in mexico city oh it totally makes sense yeah um you can talk about how

Barack Obama did that shitty debate in in Denver was the Mitt Romney one yes I should I should. So another thing that happened in 1968, the summer, was a black power salute. Do you remember that? Yes, yes. So Tommy Smith and John Carlos, they won the 200 meter. They were gold and bronze. They raised their fist in a black power salute.

The other guy who won silver was an Australian named Peter Norman. He obviously, he was, he got it. He was like, I'm not going to do that because I'm a white guy, but they all wore human rights badges. who was definitely in solidarity with them. Tammy Smith said later, quote, we were concerned about the lack of black assistant coaches, about how Muhammad Ali got stripped of his title, but the lack of access to good housing

and our kids not being able to attend the top colleges. So, you know, it was, it kind of brought that to the forefront. And that was a big deal as well. And to the 1970s, in 1972, the Winter Olympics were in Sapporo, Japan. In the summer, they were in Munich, which we'll talk about in length, in a second. But two other, or one other fun thing that happened in Munich, nope, the only, not other, a fun thing that happened in Munich in 1972 was Marks. Nice recovery. Yeah, no. Mark Spitz

was the American swimmer. He won seven gold medals and he set world records with each one. And I just want to note that he had a mustache. Yeah, I know Mark, I actually do know what Mark Spitz looks like. But like, don't you feel it was funny that he had a mustache? Like, isn't the idea, idea now to be as hairless as possible he was like I have to have a mustache it's 70s. My identifying characteristic and trait

all my powers. What of his power is in the mustache? I think it is in the mustache. I think that maybe that was it. Maybe it was like pulling him forward somehow. So I thought that was lovely. The 1976 Winter Olympics were

relocated from Denver. Denver, they ended up being in Innsbruck, Austria. A couple years before, Denver was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we can't do this because it was just like too fucking expensive. And the people were like, stopped doing this. So they stopped in Austria. I was like, we'll take it. The 1976 Summer Olympics were in Montreal, Canada, Romanian gymnast, Nadia Komenski,

scored the first perfect 10 in Olympic gymnastics. And she won three gold medals, which is fun. And this is also where Caitlin Jenner won the gold and the decathlon. Um, and yes. Um, and the decathlon is fucking insane. So I read about it a little bit in 1960 book and just to tell you what the decathlon is. It's a two day event and it's a point system. So you could have like something you're really good at and something that you're not very good at. But you, um, day one, you do the 100 meters, the long jump, the shot put, the high jump and the 400 meters. On day two, you do 110 meter hurdles, discus throw, whole vault, javelin throw, and javelin throw, and, and the long jump, the long jump, the long jump, the long jump, the long jump, and the long jump, and the four hundred and and 1,500 meters. It's just like the two most exhausting days you could possibly think of. It kind of reminds me of a field day

in elementary school, which is like the funnest day. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Hopefully you get popsicles at the end of it. Oh, yeah, we did. Oh, no, I mean the decathletes. I know you do.

The last Olympics of like this time period, the 80s, the 80s summer Olympics were in Moscow in several countries, including the United States, did not attend, which led the Soviet Union to win most of the medals. which makes sense. So next week, we'll talk about

1984 because there's a lot of stuff with Los Angeles in 1984 that resulted in the way that L.A. is policed. That kind of ties, sort of set the stage for like race riots of the 1990s. So we'll talk about that. And then also the Atlanta bombing. So I will, that's where we'll end, I think, next week.

Because it's a lot. I feel like I'm really. That's a lot. Yeah. I'm overwhelmed by this, by these stories. stories. So let's talk about Munich and what happened in 1970s. Is Munich the thing you were promising this with? Yes. Okay. This is the bad thing. This is, okay, ultimately, this is a revenge story. This is a story of revenge for all sorts of wrongs and revenge after revenge after

revenge. We have not talked about Israel. It's still happening right now. Exactly. So we have not talked about Israel and Palestine because like this is a fun podcast and who cares what we think. It seems to me that anti-terrorism becomes terrorism very, very quickly. And an eye for an eye for an eye for a thousand eyes, it's always going to lead to innocent people dying. And that's what this does. Innocent people are going to die all over this story. The families of the murdered athletes in 1972, they wanted the truth. They wanted justice.

And they wanted help. They wanted to be compensated for their loss. There were huge. Well, are you going to get into what happened, though? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm just prefacing, like, what? Okay. I want to share about like this. Like they didn't want revenge. They wanted justice. They wanted to know what happened. And they wanted money because like the their their husbands were had been killed and it was a ton of people's fault. And they didn't get any of that. Eventually they would get a little settlement like the 2004, I think. But they didn't get like what they what they deserved out of this. But they did not want revenge. They were like that will only lead to more innocent people dying. And it did. So I just wanted to like.

start with that. Like there was huge errors on behalf of anyone, but this is just like revenge is for revenge and there are absolutely no winners. So the 1970s sounds fucking terrifying. There are so many terror groups around the Middle East and Europe and they're like very, very active. There's the Red Army from Asia. There's a Baderbeinhof from Germany, the Muslim Brotherhood, which is the predecessor to Hamas, the IRA. It's like a fucking scary time. time. In the 50s and the 1970s, there was a plane hijacking one every five days. Like, would you, what? Like, there are, there have been zero for many, many years now. Yeah, but that's probably not like in the U.S., right? No, but all around Europe. Yeah. So in 1969, there were 86 hijackings. In 1970, there were 78. So your 80 Amin story with the hijacking is part of the, like, reviving. part of this story that I won't even get into, but like that kind of shit was happening all the time, which is like crazy. So there's like a lot going on like a lot of tension in Europe and in the Middle East. Like in part of the revenge story, people are going to get shot in like cafes in Italy. You know, like there's tons of tons of going on. So to preface, which is like not at all doing it justice, but a lot is going on here. Yasser Arafat is the president of the PLO, which is a

Palestinian liberation organization. He would lead a nationalist party that he founded in 1959. Their goal was to destroy Israel. They still exist, although in 1993, their goal was for Arab statehood for Palestine. The Prime Minister of Israel was a woman, which I find interesting, named Golda Meyer. And in 1970 to 1971,

so in the immediate prelude to the Olympics, there was a Jordanian civil war that was led by the PLO, This is a long story, but like Jordan's involved, Gaddafi is there, Egypt's involved, Israel's involved. One day they hijack a Swiss air flight, a TWA flight, and a Pan Am flight, and they bring them all to one air strip and blow them all up. And there's a really dramatic thing. No one was in the planes, but they blew them all up after the hijackings. So just like a wild time to be alive. And in September of that year, the worst of it, and that became known as Black September.

And a whole bunch of stuff happened during Black September, but just remember those words together, and we'll talk about them in a second. So all that stuff is happening, as always, in the background. But think about Z Germans in 1972. They are like, everything is fucking fine. We are great. Look how fucking nice we are. So the German Olympics in Munich, they called them the Olympics of peace and joy. They were like, do you remember the last Olympics?

We do not. they were like everything is wonderful everything is fine so because of that and then far as you'll remember last time that we talked the in 1936 in the winter Olympics like everyone wore their like SS uniforms and people were like that's a little much so in the summer they were like trying not to show that they were like SS people but they were like very clearly the SS you know of course can't really hide that so in 1972 there is almost zero security. The cops and the Olympic security do not have guns. They have nothing. They wear these like powder blue suits and they're like, everything is fine and there's not very many of them. So some people had the assumption that like behind the scenes,

there was more security and they were just hiding. But that wasn't true. There was really like almost no security at the Olympics. It literally just dawned on me that this is Germany like 30 years after. it's so not that long ago. So not that longer. From it, exactly. So, yeah, it's 1972.

Like, I mean, they're like barely repairing, you know? It's just like- And not even 30 years ago. It's like 23, four years ago or something. So there's like, everything's fine. So they are, that is, you know, that's the mood in Germany, is that they are, okay. So it's 36 years.

It's in 36 years since 1333. I just said the math because I think it's like that doesn't sound right. I'm going to have to sell this out. So they're like, everything's fine. We're fine. Every country did have their own security team that would go beforehand. I'd be like everything seems fine. The Israeli security, they seem to be more worried about the security of their press than the athletes themselves.

And they seemed not concerned either. One of the coaches did go early. And he said, this is not safe. for our athletes. The Israeli team, the women were somewhere else, but the men's team was in an apartment on 31 Connolly Strasser. They were in apartments one through five in the Olympic Village. So they had five apartments.

They were all first floor apartments, but they were two-story apartments. And they housed some wrestlers, some fencers, and a lot of coaches as well. So one thing that was, if you look this up, you're going to see pictures of someone looking over a balcony and that was confusing to me for a second because I also because the first thing you also see is that it was a first floor apartment which seems very very unsafe but there were two story apartments yeah that's why um I was confused yeah that is a scary picture of the guy with a mask on yeah it looks like strangers I know I'll tell you what he was doing in a second you'll be like Jesus fucking Christ that's what you'll say when we get there um So there was no security, like I said, and the door to this part of the apartment block was always left open because it also led to the apartment garage.

I'm sorry, the car garage, the parking garage. So you would, you could always get in. Like, you'd always get up to the door of the apartment. So this is terrible. It is a long operation to get the people from the PLO who are a group called Black Suss. September. That's the name that this specific terrorist cell gives themselves as Black September in relation to the war that had happened the year before. They had spent some time like faking passports and getting into the country. At one point in one of the airports in Germany,

there was a couple and they had five bags and they got pulled over by security and security. It was like, what's in your bags? Open them and they were like, no, we don't want to, whatever. And then they opened up the, he's like, which bag do you want to open? And then the guy pointed to one, opened it up. And it was full of lingerie, you know. So the Germans were kind of embarrassed and they closed it. And they were like, fine, you can go. The other four suitcases were full of AK-47s.

So like, they just were shit lucky that they, those weren't the ones that they saw. And that's like, and then they took the four suitcases, put them in lockers in the train station in Munich. And then they like went on to the next person. So it was like one thing after a thing to get the guns to get the people there. and it all culminated on September 4th, 1972. So the athletes, who I will tell you all of their names, they were out in Munich seeing fiddler on the roof, which is fun.

They went to a show. They saw a very famous person who played the lead role. It was a mix of athletes and coaches. One of the doctors, that was a team doctor, his 13-year-old son, had asked to stay. in the in the Olympic village with the athletes and he said no and the sun was really mad and he didn't stay there which is like obviously saved his life but it's really just like a gross side story you know yeah um so at 4 30 a m eight members of black september scaled the fence

but there's only six feet high and got can i pause how do they know were they trying to I saw the movie Munich, but I saw it, like, I was into college. I remember only that Steven Spielberg corrected it. Yes. And Eric Banda was in it. They knew who they were going after. They wanted to go after the Israelis. That was the point.

And they knew they were there. Yes. They had spent a lot of time, like, sneaking around. They didn't really have to sneak around. They could just kind of walk in and see. And they knew exactly where they were saying. They had a set of copied keys to the room. They were, like, ready.

They were dressed in tracksuits, and they had all of their stuff. like their weapons. So they specifically wanted to target the Israelis, and I'll tell you what they wanted, what their demands were. But they scaled the thing. Two drunk Canadians helped them. It's like, isn't their fault.

They were like helping them get over it because it was like, just imagined that everybody couldn't get in. It was 4.30 in the morning. They had stolen keys and they opened the door. So one of the, a wrestling referee named Yosef Gute Freund, he heard a noise.

And you might remember this from, the movie. He, because it's like one of the clips that I saw, I just couldn't watch it because I'm just so upset. But he heard the noise, went to the door, saw them opening it, saw men behind the door wearing like ski masks and threw his body against the door to try to stop them coming in. Gutfreund was 300 pounds, like a really big guide. He was tried his best to keep them out. He, doing that a lot of enough time for his roommate, weight coach, Tuvia Skukovsky, to escape through a window. So he went running out to start to try to tell people what was going on and tried to, I think he ended up at a hotel calling people, tried to figure out what to do. But there was no security patrol that could have helped him. There's like no one there that should have been there. Coach Moisha Weinberg fought them as soon as they got in. He started fighting the terrorists. They shot him in the cheek and he lived from that shot. It was a terrible, obviously, like it went through his face. And then he took. did a very brave thing that like makes me want to cry the the terrorist asked him where the next

group of Israeli athletes were and he's because they were in apartment one and he said they're not an apartment two they're in apartment three and he walked them past apartment two to apartment three because apartment three was where the bigger guys were that's where the wrestlers and the weight lifters were so they think that that's his thought was like hopefully these guys can stop them, which is like, I don't know, it just gives me the chills and makes you want to die. You got shot in the face with an AK-47? Yeah, or some sort of gun. Probably not because of it.

Yeah, his head would have exploded a bit. Yeah. Because he was able to do that and, and kind of like, at least the big guys in, in Department 3, they were startled awake so they weren't really ready to, like, help. It was very confusing. The last guy to escape was weight coach, two via, Skokovsky. Wait, he escaped. Wait, one more person escaped. Gad, Tosabari, a wrestler. He actually, he got to escape as well. So two guys escaped. He was the last person to escape.

Weinberg is going to be shot and killed almost immediately after this, after they gather everybody together in an apartment. And I think that this is the body that they show, like the press and show people to be like, we're serious about this. Like, we're actually killing people in here. Weinberg's son, Guri, plays him in the movie, Munich. Oh, wow. He was born on August 1st, 1972, so he never met his father.

His father died when he was a month old. That's crazy. Isn't that crazy? It's sad. It's so sad. I don't know what to do. Another person that was killed in the apartment's weightlifter, Yosef Romano was so cute.

He's just, like, cute, he's big. He's, like, curly hair on these big, fun 70s. mutton chops and he had three little girls and he was killed trying to fight he was on crutches because he had just hurt like a ligament in his legament in his legion during one of his last weight listening competitions but he tried to fight he ended up being his body was mutilated he was castrated and his body was like put at the feet of of everybody else and they had to sit next to his dead body all day long so the people that were there the terrorists I think they were eight or nine of them.

Some of them, the guy who was in charge, his name was Lutif Afith, but they called them Issa. So the names are Issa, Tony, Paolo, Sala, and Abu Hala. Those are their, like, fake names that they used. So you saw they wore, like, a lot of, like, ski masks and face masks so that people couldn't see who they were. They were kind of stand outside on the balcony with their guns and, like, knew that they were there, and they were trying to negotiate with the German police. What they wanted was the release of 200 Palestinian prisoners, as well as some Red Army prisoners from different jails around the world.

This was going to be something that was like really hard to do. They were in a bunch of different places. It's like Air Force One. Yeah. They wanted something that was like nearly impossible. They said the first deadline was like 9 a.m. But that was impossible. And they kept moving it and moving it.

And they ended up being there kind of all day long. the Germans fucked up so hard during this entire thing even though this was a huge deal they didn't get the federal German government to help

Bavaria didn't necessarily have to do that based on the rules so they used the Bavarian government and law enforcement to negotiate but nobody was really a hostage negotiation person they didn't have anyone who was actually qualified to be doing these things.

One thing that they do, and so the picture that you see on the cover of the book one day in September and the one that you just looked up with the person on the balcony with the guy in the track suit with the mask that his gun on the balcony looking up was because the freaking Germans in the afternoon, they had an operation called Operation Sunshine, which was to have snipers at different places all around the apartment, to try to shoot them. But this is literally being broadcast live across the world,

and they had TV in the apartment. So what that guy is looking at is he's looking at the balcony being like, are you guys fucking kidding me? I know there's a sniper up there. I can see him on TV. That's the guy in the hoodie or whatever it is. Yeah. The mask.

Yeah. He's saying, like, I know they're there. I can see them on TV. Like they didn't turn the TV out for any reason. So, like, they knew, so that was a total blumber, blumber butt, didn't work at all. They tried to sneak cops in with the food, but they're like, no, we're not going to let you do that. Obviously, I'm going to have you, like, drop the food and then we're going to bring it in. Like, they're not going to, like, do a thing.

For some reason, Walter Troger, who's the mayor of the Olympic Village, got to go in the apartment and see the hostages. And he was like, are you guys okay? And he was like, they seemed very resigned to their fate. And I'm like, help them. Like, what is happening? You know what I mean? Like, help them. What's that guy supposed to do?

I don't know. Like, why was he even, like, allowed in there? It was just such a weird thing to have happen. And meanwhile, the Olympics are going on. There will be a 36-hour break. But eventually, Avery Brendidge, who is a president of the IOC, asks them to continue, which I feel like makes sense, you know, like, I don't, I don't agree with that. I think, like, this is a big deal.

Like, there's athletes, like, can't, I mean. I know, everybody else is already there. I mean, obviously, like, the rest of Israelis went home, but, like, I don't know. But, but I think even worse than that, it's, like, while it's happening, you can see in, like, the news reports that, like, 200 yards away, there's a, like, a green area with, like, a fake pond where athletes are, like, playing ping pong and sunbeating, you know? Like, life is going on, even in the Olympic Village while this is happening, which is pretty wild. Yeah. So the Germans do things, like, we're going to get them a helicopter. after our, they were like, fine, we want to be taken to an airfield to be taken to an Arab country to continue these negotiations, you know, and the Germans were like, that's fine. You can definitely do that. That sounds great. So they wanted it first to get them there through the parking garage that was below, but then the guys were like, obviously you're going to try to shoot us in this parking garage. So they like ended up getting on a bus and going to a smaller airfield that had helicopters and taking those helicopters to a larger airfield. The helicopters didn't have to go very far.

But they made them, they were full of gas. They filled them up with gasoline. They didn't have to do that, but they did. So they were like very flammable. I'll keep that in mind. So there's four hostages now left alive. They're on each of the different helicopters. They are taken to, it's 10 p.m.

So it's dark. They're taken to the first in a field book air base. It's a NATO air base. They're taken there in helicopters. When they get there, the Germans have a 740. that's ready to take them like wherever they want to go. 77 has cops dressed like flight attendants, but it's like very clear at their cops.

Like they don't even change their pants. They just put on like a flight attendant jacket and like try to do it. And in the middle of it, they give up. Nothing even happens. But the cops in the plane quit and like leave. So at the time the terrorists get there, Issa, the main terrorist gets there and he goes into the plane. He's like, this plane is empty.

Like this is weird. can tell that you all are lying to us they also had snipers that were um obviously like around the air base but none of them were actually snipers they were guys who like maybe knew how to shoot a gun but none of them were trained none of them were snipers it didn't know the thing to like coordinate with each other like there was like nothing they were never ever going to shoot these guys so now that now that they know that they're duped it's chaos everyone starts shooting so the terrorists shooting. The Germans are shooting and they end up throwing a grenade into one of the helicopters blowing up half of the hostages and the other half. Issa, the main terrorist guy, goes in and

shoots them all, point blank really close and kills them all with like the Akey 47 and they all die in the helicopter. So all of the hostages died. Just to go through kind of kind of who they are, again, and everyone who died in this, the, during the initial break-in, Moishe Weinberg and Yosef Romano, they were both killed. Later, killed by a grenade in the helicopter, they were seated from left to right, Zav Friedman, David Berger, Yaakov Springer, and Elizair Hofflin. David Berger was actually an American, and he, but he was competing as a weightlift, for the Israeli team he was so young he died of smoke

inhalation he didn't even die in the grenade blast the next day President Nixon called his parents and said what can I do for you and they said can you bring him home and his body was flown to America and everybody else was flown back to Israel which is so sad shot the people who were shot

on the other helicopter seated from left to right Yosef good friend Hayhat Shore Mark Slavin Andre Spitzer I'm at Sir Shapira they were a wrestling referee shooting coach, a wrestler, a fencing coach, and a track coach. During the gunfight, a West German police officer named Anton Fleggerbauer was killed, and then five of the terrorists were killed in the fight at the Air Force Base,

like in all of the chaos of the Air Force Base. Including Issa, who was the leader. Andre Spitzer's wife, he's a fencing coach. She is dope as shit. She's in one of the documentaries I watched, and she, you know, speaks like seven languages, is, like, wildly smart, wildly on all of this. And she's the one who's going to fight for the families to have, you know, any sort of justice to get to know anything that actually happened. They don't tell them anything.

And the saddest thing, I think, that happened is, I mean, one of the saddest things ever is that they were live on ABC and they had said that everyone was okay, that they had gotten all. all of the remaining hostages out at the airfield. And that was the last thing they said before they ended broadcast for the night, like the night before. So they said that and some of the people celebrated. Like the families across Israel and across the world were celebrating that the hostages had been let go. And some of the wives were like,

I will believe it when I hear his voice. He will call me as soon as he's okay. Like that will be the first thing that he does. I know he will call me. And then in the morning, Jim McKay on ABC, he I don't know why this like really has upset me so much this week I don't even know what to do but um in the morning when they found out that everybody had died Jim McKay on ABC said when I was a kid my father used to say our greatest hopes and our worst fears are seldom realized our worst fears have been realized tonight they've now said there were 11 hostages two were killed in their rooms yesterday morning nine were killed at the airport tonight they're all gone and that's how the world to find out, found out that they were all, they had all died. Right away, Israel wants to avenge them.

And like I said, the families don't want that. They want compensation for the shit job everybody did, keeping them safe. They want to know what happened and they want justice. They want to know what happened in the last hours of the lives of these guys. And they will fight for decades for this. Mrs. Spitzer will end up a, like, the Bavarian government tells her that they have no information about this

that they don't know anything that happened and she will have like some person calls her like an informant says this information is in the archives in Munich and then so she's like on the news talking to someone about it someone's saying that it's not true we don't have it

she starts reading them some of the documentation that like she got sent by this person and they're like fine we have it and they had like 50 boxes of stuff that was just like talking about what had And that was all she wanted to know, you know, like what had happened. And then, you know, in the aftermath of all of this, some of the terrorists are still in jail in Germany for a few months. They end up being taken back to Palestine because there's a hijacked Luftanz a flight and they want to trade the three terrorists or in jail in Germany for the Luftans of flight. But the Lufthans of the flight only has 12 people on it and they're all dudes, which is like very suspicious and doesn't make any sense.

So it's pretty clear that Germany was like, we don't want to deal with this anymore. Get them the fuck out of here. You know? So they weren't arrested. They were. They were arrested. Okay. Yeah, they were in jail in Germany.

Like one of them ran away. They found him like 40 minutes later. Some of them, the rest of them were taken into custody. They were being extradited. They were being extra. Germany wanted them extradited to get. get this whole mess out of their hands. Yeah, and they did it through this like ruse of this like fake hijacking.

You know, they like had to do it, you know? Yeah. And I like traded Lufth on the plane for that. So they went back. Eventually, though, the thing to avenge these deaths is called Operation Wrath of God by the Israeli government. And they will go all over Europe. They will kill people who they think were like tendentially involved.

They kill historians and professors who talk about this in ways they don't like. They kill at one point a thing called the Lillehammer affair. They go to Lilleyhammer Norway, which is like a really small town. And they think that they found one of the guys who's involved. They follow him around. They find that he is, he works at like this small shop. He has a pregnant wife. And him and his wife seem totally normal. They go to the movies one night. They take the bus home. They're holding hands. She's very pregnant. And someone jumps out of a car and kills him, shoots him in the head, and he was totally the wrong person. He wasn't even the guy at all. And like so many things would have been like, that guy was married and had kids. Like,

why would he also have this like pregnant life there? Why wouldn't he have any security? Like, all these things. There are people who are like, who know that they're targets and they will like, you know, move every day and like try to do all these things. And one of the ways that they that they kill people and they did it several people in the book that I read, um, They would put a bomb on their telephone in their apartment. They'd go to their apartment, break in, put a bomb on their phone, and then call them. They had a weird time when they knew they were home. So they'd pick up the phone and go, hello, and they would know that they were there,

and then they'd blow up their phone and kill them. Well. Which is wild. So a lot of, like, car bombs, a lot of being, like, mafia style shot in restaurants, shot on the street. Many, many people will die for this. and I think I think that's the end of that which is I mean I think there's like a lot more to the operation of wrath of God and like the justice and all of that but man it's just a tragedy of so many levels it shows like how we get to where we are and why you know I was it was I was talking to someone like a strategist and politics and someone was like in the weeds on this stuff and like listen like the reality is this is never

gets off you can't you can't unwind the tape that's already there it's just way too much water under that bridge for it to ever get unraveled and I don't yeah and the thing is like how far back do you go to identify who was right and who was wrong yeah like do you punish the people, their grandparents, the great-grandparents, the great-grandparents, do you punish the Allied forces? Do you punish, like, Germany still? I mean, there's no answer. Yeah.

I don't know. It's such a long story. It's just such a fucking sad, sad story. Those poor men, they were just, had to sit there all day, you know, knowing that they were going to die. knowing that no one was going to help them. And Joseph Romano, the weightlifter,

his mom and brother apparently committed suicide after this. Ugh, so sad. This is such a horrible, a horrible way to die and a horrible, you know, I think, I guess as we'll see in, like, other stories, like, even though it wasn't a safe space in many ways, because, like, it was the 70s,

And there was no security and all these things. Like it was supposed to be a safe space, you know? It felt like a safe space. So there's a thing around how citizens, like when average people are being punished for their government's actions, you know, it kind of touches on. So things that we talk about right now, though, it's like, the people aren't the government. like iranians aren't like you talk to the average iranian they don't agree with any of the stuff that goes on in iran but they can't vocalize that they can't say that all they can look at is again who do you punish it was their great grandparents who ended up getting these people into office right and so

how do you punish the the kids of that so i don't know touch you touch your own on subject but i'm glad you covered it because it's um again i saw the movie but i saw it so long ago that I didn't really recall all the nuances. I forgot about the helicopter situation. Yeah. There's a lot to it. There's also, there's just

reminded me like, really quickly and I'm reading this. So in, do you have watched Dairy Girls? It's like with, it's a, it's on Netflix, it's like, a, show about these um sweet girls in in dairy in northern ireland and they talk about a lot of

northern it's during the time when like the um all of like the there's tons of terrorism in north ireland and all these like terrible things were happening and they're catholic and there's like the protestants and all these things but at the very very end they do a vote to decide to like move on essentially and it's like in the show they show it's like there's people that they know that we're like in jail for being IRA terrorists and they're going to like be forgiven because they want the country needs to move on you know and it was like 71% of the people people voted and they chose to to move on they're like we need to get past this you know I don't know if that like worked but it's like that reminded me of that you saying that um I think that until

we get to the point where I mean we can probably get there if we get to the point where we have to by AI. AI is making our decisions. Honestly, I was thinking, like, the best thing would be aliens, maybe, but I don't even know if we could agree to fight in aliens together. Maybe the nuclear war, when we see each other again in 10,000 years, when we can communicate across the world, we can be like, let's forget about it. It says a lot about our psyche that when you said aliens, my first thought was, I guess

if, like, really smart beings landed here, we'd quite listen to them, and they probably tell us stop fighting and your mind went to how do we kill them no no no no no no that's what i was thinking i was thinking well yes i guess that's right like we'd work together because they'd probably try to kill us because we're stupid but if i'd like on a planet full of idiots i'd be like you guys are idiots yeah yeah and that's what this planet is full of so yeah oh it's just i'm gonna do something fun after this is over like i'm so excited for the Olympics and like I love all the sport stuff, but I'm just like, we can't have

nice things, can we? You piece of the shit. It makes you feel like that. My episode is actually pretty fun, but given that you started this conversation by saying you don't want to hear anything about presidential debates, I don't actually think you're going to have fun. I think you're actually to hate this episode.

Let me a break. I have a messenger degree in political communication. The only thing we talk about is presidential debates. So I'm ready. Tell me what color tie Bill Clinton was wearing in 1992. I would love to hear that. yeah I don't know I'm sure it was blue

we'll get into it so we'll leave it on a more upbeat note I guess yeah this is sad it's a devastating story yeah yeah well

hopefully I have some listener mail I know I hope so too I mean knock on wood just like have people just fucking run and do a great job and swirl and shit

and There's a lot of videos of Simone Biles in slow motion and I still can't figure out what the fuck she's doing in the air. It's so amazing. Is she competing this year? I thought she was tired. No, no, she's in it. Yeah. So, super good. Yeah.

Yeah, I have a listener mail. Okay. From Morgan. A bushel and a peck is from the musical Guys and Dolls, which I didn't know. But we talked about that song. Yep. Is that the main?

Yeah. Because I told you I sing that song and you were like, I don't know what you're talking about. Do you remember that? No. You said the British measure things in bushels and pecks and I said, I sing the song. Oh, that's right. That's right. You did. Kisses on the neck to my kids all the time. And you were like, that sounds insane. And Morgan was like, that's from guys and dolls. So her grandma was sent it to her too. So I didn't make that up. The correlation is that you are into, you actually know musicals and plays enough to have internalized some of the dialogue, but not the, but not the musical. But not the musical. itself, and I just don't know many of it. Cool. Well, thank you, Fars. Thank you, friends, for listening. Please continue to tell your friends about us. We, our website is up and running. You can go there, doomed to failpod.com to sign up for our newsletter to our march, to see all of our episodes in different places to listen, learn a little bit about us on there as well. And then if you have any questions or suggestions,

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And we had a story about serial killers from South America on Monday. And then today, I am going to finish my series on the Olympics. Are you excited? I am very, very excited. excited. I will also note that we are waiting for a hurricane to hit Texas. And so if you're in the path of the hurricane, get out of the path. Go somewhere else. It's something different. That's it. It's not going to hit you. It's going to rain. If you're like it's going to rain. If you're in Houston, yeah, if you're like Houston Galveston area, like it's not going to be good. I think that like

what we're going to experience is going to be a ton of rain. um which is great we need it but uh but yeah hopefully it doesn't beer any further off so t bd i mean it is record hot here it's like just you can't even go outside it's in the one tens seriously it's terrible so we're here it is right now it's 100 and it's six o'clock at night um every day this week it's going to be okay it goes back to 90 next week every day this week is going to be over 100. Today, the high was 107. So hot. That is, that is worse than here, which is really weird. Usually we get it, Texas gets it worse, but when you're, it's humid there. It's not humid here. But Palm Springs is right now, it's 111. Tomorrow's high, high is 117. Palm Springs is just so hot.

So bad. I'm like, I don't know how, how much longer can we go on like this. It's, I mean, yeah. Yeah. you know like what do you do yeah he's gonna just go up forever and then like you can't live here I think so I think that's probably the most likely outcome unfortunately yeah what a bummer but we'll see what happens but yeah I know it's bad it looks like it's gonna yeah it looks like what well it looks like it's gonna rain for you tomorrow this is so dumb sorry everyone rain for you tomorrow but that's it's only 65% chances of rain so still can I can I claim to be a victim of this hurricane or no

sure sure sure sure go ahead thank you um okay and today so yeah we're going to get into part four of olympics is this is the last one you said right uh yeah yes i can't do it anymore has it been that trying for you well i just feel like i've learned a bunch of these are there's just like so much more that i would like to talk about and i'm not going to get to it and that is a bummer you know

but i'm like with every olympics there's like all these little So I'm not going to talk about, like, all the doping scandals. I'm not going to get to the Winter Olympics things like Cool Runnings and Nancy Kerrigan. Maybe in two years in 2026 when they're having the Olympics in Milan, I can come back to those, you know? Yeah, Nancy Kerrigan was a fun one. Yeah, no, definitely we should talk about that, but like it didn't even, not even going to get to it. Because today, in our final installment, we're going to talk about the Atlanta bombing. in 1996, and Richard Jewell, who is the man who was suspected of being bomber.

Poor bastard. Poor bastard, Jesus. So we've talked about the origins of the Olympics. We talked about Pierre de Coubertine, who brought them back. It's kind of fun because now every book I read recaps what the Olympics are, and I'm like, oh, we already know all that, which is fun. We know about the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. We know about the 1972 Olympics in Munich, and now we'll focus on 1996.

So some of the things that happened between 1980, which is where we cut it off last time and now, just to kind of go through what they had. In 1980, the Winter Olympics were in Lake Placid in the United States, and that was a miracle on ice. And I know there's a movie with, is it Kurt Russell? Probably. I think it's probably called Miracle on Ice, but the U.S. team beats the Soviet Union, and it's very exciting. in the 1984 LA Summer Olympics actually.

And so the 1984 Winter Olympics were in Sarajevo. The Summer Olympics were in L.A. And those are the ones that I wanted to talk about just a little bit.

So some fun things that happened there, Mary Lou Retton became the first American woman to win an individual all around gold medal in gymnastics.

So that's super exciting. She's like super cute. I was like old 80s short hair. That was a big deal. There is a woman named, Madeleine de Jesus, and she had an identical twin sister who's also in the Olympics, and Madeline hurt herself during the long jump. So she had her sister pretend to be her during the

relay. Seriously? Just super fun. Yeah, and they got caught, and then they got the metal taken away, but like, that's hilarious and kind of fun. The opening ceremony for the LA Olympics was in the, that's called the Coliseum by UCLA. Yeah, that was, Muhammad Ali was the one who lit it. He lit at the end. No, no, that was in Atlanta. Was it? Okay. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, he did it in 1996, but I don't know who did it in L.A. But there was a guy in a jetpack. I don't know if you ever seen this video. Watch it later. Just Google 1984 Olympics Jetpack. It's like the late. It's so lame. He just like kind of goes up in the air like 10 feet and like moves around and it's just like hilarious and like very fun. You can look it up now. Jetpack guy 84 Olympics. Um, so I wanted to mention that, like, this in general, because obviously, as you know, the Olympics are coming to L.A. again. Is, is it, so this is not a jet pack. So he's not actually being propelled by a jetpack. He's just on a string or a wire. No, it's a jetpack. Isn't it? Like, from the bottom. I mean, there's no flames coming out of it. I don't know this. I don't pretend to know the science, the schematics behind jet packs.

Okay. Got it. But. But. So the Olympics, as we know, is coming back to L.A. in 2028. And I found a website called no Olympics, LA.com that goes over all the Olympic, all the reasons why L.A. shouldn't have it. There's a lot of them, obviously, like, we've talked about how having the Olympics, like, a bunch of unhouse people get displaced. You know, it doesn't really help the community.

It costs a lot of money. The 1984 Olympics actually was one that, like, made some money for the city because they had just insane sponsorships and things that they hadn't had before. But there's also an article that I'll put into our sources from the nation. It's called Want to Understand the 1992 L.A. riots start with the 1984 L.A. Olympics. So the gist is that the police got so much funding. So this is like a couple years, well, it's like a decade after Munich. But they want it to be like, you're safe because there's so many police here, right? So they were just like a huge police presence with tanks, with all this stuff.

And the police became like very aggressive because they had so much money being funneled into them. And that would eventually lead to Rodney King. Yeah. That's, I'm on the no Olympics page. And that's, yeah, what they're saying is likely going to happen this time. So, yeah. So it's fair to say that they were like worried that something might happen during that time. It went off without any.

really terrible happening there was a thing where this is important for our story an officer a police officer named jimmy wade pearson discovered a bomb on a bus and he like very heroically took out of the bus and like ripped all of the cords off like in a movie but um it wasn't a real bomb he had planted it to be a hero so oh so there was some precedent for yeah yeah okay i didn't know that exactly yeah so it had it had happened it happened recently and in the u. So just kind of remember, yeah, remember that that had happened. So that's 1984. In 1988, the Winter Olympics were in Calgary, Canada.

This is the Cool Runnings Olympics and the Eddie the Eagle Olympics. So like silly comedy movie Olympics, those happen then. In the Summer Olympics in 1988, there were in Seoul, South Korea. And Ben Johnson won the Ben's 100 meter sprint, but he was disqualified for doping, giving the gold to Carl Lewis. and Carl Lewis is going to dominate track and field in, like, the next four to five Olympics. In 1992, they were in Albertville, France, and the summer Olympics were in Barcelona, Spain. This was the dream team Olympics, when Michael Jordan and Madge Johnson got to actually, like, and crew got to actually be in the Olympics.

And also, I posted something about, I have this amazing CD called Barcelona Gold and had all this, like, great 90s music on it. So that also happened during 1992. Not that it matters, but I thought it was really fun. In 1994, they were in Lillehammer, Norway. In 1996, they were in Atlanta, which we'll talk about in a second. Some fun things that happened during that one, I think the funnest is Carrie Strug. Do you remember when she did the vault with her hurt ankle? Oh, my God, yeah.

How excited it was. She did the vault, when she landed in her ankle, right? Was that the one where she was already hurt? Oh, it was already hurt. And then she landed on one foot because it was hurt, you know? Yeah, I remember that. And then, like, the coach carried her to get to get the gold. And it was like a whole thing.

So that was super exciting and cute. And then in 1988, I don't know where that was. In 2000, they were in Japan and Australia. 2002, they were in Salt Lake City. So in the U.S. In 2004, the Summer Olympics were in Athens, Greece. And that's when Michael Phelps comes on stage. He won six gold and two bronze medals in his first Olympics.

And then in 2008, they'll be in Beijing. Usain Bolt, that's his first Olympics. He won three gold medals. Michael Phelps won eight gold medals in 2008. I remember that. Incredible. In 2010, yeah. The dream team, if you look up the scores that they racked up

against other countries, it's just like dumb. It's so stupid. Yeah. So one game, June 28th, 1992, U.S. points, 136 to Cuba's 57. Oh my gosh. I mean. I'm shocked that even got 57 actually.

Me too. So, kudos to them. One day you're just like playing a basketball team and the next day they're like, oh, hey, Michael Jordan's here against you, good luck. And you're like, I remember being a kid and playing at the YMCA, like the basketball. Every now and then it's like, it's like the other kids will like, the other team will have someone that's like crazy good and crazy down. And it's like, nobody wants to guard that guy.

It's like, nobody wants to be the guy who, like, is obviously going to lose the game for you. And I just can't imagine being like this Cuban team. I mean, like, so who's got Michael Jordan? Yeah, yeah. Do you want to cover him or do you want Michael Jordan or do you want Carl Malone or do you want Patrick Ewing or do you want Scotty Pippen? Who do you want to cover today? It's like, what a nightmare. I don't know this is not news, but man, these guys are tall.

Patrick Ewing is seven feet tall. It's just so tall insane Yeah so that That was a really fun year For America What else So just in general

2012 Gabby Douglas She's the first African American women To win the gold medal In gymnastics Which is super exciting They're in Russia in 2014

They're in Rio In 2016 Where Simone Biles comes to stage She wins four gold medals And won bronze Usain Bolt completed the triple triple. He won the 100, 200 and 4x100-by-100 relay for the third Olympics in the row.

Like, he's just insane. He's so fast. Out of control. That's what he's doing for. Then they were in Pyongchang, South Korea, and then they were in Tokyo. I think it's super cool of Simone Biles that she withdrew because she was having mental health issues. I think that was a good, you know, the thing of her to do, take care of herself.

So she did that, but she's back this year. And then in 2022, they were in Beijing. And then this year, of course, they're in Paris. I'll let you know. I'll do a follow-up if anything crazy happens. But I'm following so many Olympics accounts on her Instagram. It's wild. And I'm excited about track, of course.

And swimming, Katie Ledecki is back. She's insane. And every, like the top 15 records for her events are all her. She's just like out of control. There's also a woman's rugby player named Alona Mayer, who I love. She's a great Instagram account. She's super, like, can be super excited about that. And I only know about women.

I don't know. That's also what's happening on our algorithm. But a woman named Sunny Choi is on our breakdancing team. There's 16 men and 16 women. And Sunny Choi, I watched a little documentary on her. She was a global marketing director at Estee Lauder and quit to be. be on this breakdancing team, which is really fun for her. And I'm excited.

She's a breakdancing. Yeah. So that's what's coming up in the next, I don't know, a couple of weeks when it actually starts. But let's talk about 1996. So, fars. It's 1996. You are a preteen.

I'm a little 12-year-old fars. A little fars. So lest we start thinking that our times are uniquely turbulent, all times are turbulent. And the lead up to the 1996 Olympics, a bunch of crazy shit's happening, like, in the world. So there's a few things that you have to remember that backdrop this story. And they happen in quick succession. So in August 1992, there's Ruby Ridge. And you know about that, right?

Oh, yeah. Yep. Do you want to say what that is? That was when the FBI and the Bureau of Tobacco Firearms rated this compound where this white nationalist, was living with his family off the grid and sure he's a bad person overall whatever but he wasn't actually committing any crimes

it was entrapment and they ended up actually killing his wife I think they might have killed this kid and arrest the guy Ruby Ridge was basically the precursor and the setup to domestic terrorism as we know it

like that was the tee up to the Olympic the God will was a Timothy McVeigh bombing. Yeah, and all that stuff. Exactly. Exactly. Thank you.

Exactly right. Because in April 1993 is the Waco branch Davidian standoff that ended up, you know, killing a bunch of those folks in that cult. At April 1995 is Oklahoma City bombing. So there's a lot of like domestic terrorism, like you said, and a lot of like tension between the government and people who want to live off the grid. So that's what's happening right now. And so that's in those like geist.

There's also one thing that happens right before the Olympics start. On July 17th, 1996, TWA Flight 800 exploded 12 minutes after takeoff. Have you heard about this one? That's not Lockerbie, is it? No. So it was flying to Rome from JFK via Paris. So it was headed to Paris for a layover. And it ended up being just like a short circuit in the engine.

so the flight took off fine 12 minutes later other planes were calling in saying they saw an explosion in the sky and the burning wreckage was on on the ocean everyone died like almost 300 people died in addition to the people on the plane like one of the groups on the plane was a group of 16 students and five adult chaperones from the french club of montorsville high school and pennsylvania and that is inspiration for final destination. No way. Yeah, which is kind of fun, because fun decisions fun. Because it's like a group of kids going to France, you know, and then they're playing explodes. It's great. Those movies are awesome. Everybody should see them. They're so good. They're great. I love all of them. The first time I saw them, I was so scared. I didn't know what to do, but then I was like, I need to face my fear and watch them. And they're great. When they tied the last one. Exactly. They pinned it all together. Yeah, I was like, this is way, you didn't have to do that. But you did. We loved it anyways, but man, y'all really care about us. Thank you.

Final Destination creators. Yeah. So this is the inspiration for it, which is a terrible tragedy. But. Sorry. No. It's a tragedy.

I think Andy Warhol's boyfriend was on the flight. A couple other higher profile people were on it. So definitely a tragedy. But fun, that we got Final Destination. But by the time the Olympics start, the investigation is not done.

And they think it might be a terrorist attack. Like it isn't, but it's still out there that it could be. Basically, are you just framing? it as like the world is topsy-turvy. Yes. And nobody, okay, got it.

And no one knows what's going on. You know, so that's like in the background. But the games are in Atlanta and there's a lot of background reasons to why. But, you know, some, a couple of people were like, we really wanted to be in Atlanta. They put out the bid. They spent a lot of money like wooing the people who get to vote. It's the 100th anniversary of the modern games. So Athens was like the favorite to get it because, you know, Greece, 100 years,

all the things. And Atlanta did the Abraham Lincoln thing and made themselves everybody's second choice, you know. So that's how you win things. So in 1990, it's like 200 people on this committee get to vote on which city. And the vote on like all 10. And then the two of the least votes are out. And they do it again. And then they do it again.

And they do it again until finally it was Atlanta. And they got that in 1990. The games are in Atlanta now. They got voted in. they were everyone's second choice. They wanted the park and Olympics to be open to everyone. They expected bomb threats, but they had a lot of security. They did a training in the airport before with like fake gas.

So like there was a bomb in the airport. So everybody was like really ready. Lots of famous people from the 90s were there. The Brian Setzer Orchestra played. That's fun. It's very 90s. It's like it's like 90s swing. Remember when everybody like swing in the 90s?

Everybody was swinging. It's all we were known for. there's a very on-brand story that Donald Trump was at the Cheesecake Factory and he dropped his wallet and a kid picked up his wallet and gave it back to him and to thank him Donald Trump asked the kid for a $20 bill

and he signed that one. I mean, I guess that's kind of nice. He didn't even give him any money for returning his wallet. He took the kids money and signed it. Oh, he took, I thought he meant he took money out of his own wallet. No, no, no, no, the kids. That's funny. that is funny it's very it makes sense um so all that's happening everyone's excited

atlanta is excited um and so is a security guard named richard jule and if you have seen this man or heard any of the story for better or worse richard jule is rod farva oh yeah um and i mean that in a very loving and endearing way yeah looks like him too well so j leno is being an asshole this whole time and like talking about Richard Jewel when he's not convicted but Jay Leno will liken Richard Jewel to the person who hurt Nancy Kerrigan you know with the the bat or whatever he hit her with and the same actor Paul Walter Houser plays both those men in the movies

so it does make sense that those two look to like the same actor plays him and Paul Walter Houser also plays Lonnie LaLouche, who's the Canadian Farva and Super Jupers too. Right, well then, he was right. It's a brand. So he's like a fat guy with a mustache. He just like loves being a cop. And that's all he wants to talk about.

You know, like he's so excited about it. He wants to tell you about his training. He wants to tell you how he could. He could stop a bomb. He could do these things. All of that. This is like his personality. So he's probably like a little annoying, but he's, that's just who he is, you know? He just likes what he likes and we don't have to understand it.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. So Richard Jule was born Richard White on December 17th, 1962. His mom, Bobby and his dad, Robert, divorced when he was four. His mom remarried a man named John Jule, which is why he changed his name because he adopted and ended up adopting Richard. Things are going well until one day John Juel has stepped down. dad just leaves. He just abandons the family. He leaves a letter that says, I think I'm a failure. I can't do this anymore. And just leaves. So Richard, who had just started college,

moves back in with his mom to help her. And he has some law enforcement jobs. He got fired from two of them. One was because he pretended to be like an on-duty officer when he was being a security guard. He had like a side gig as doing security at an apartment building. And he sort of overstepped. So he got in trouble for impersonating an officer. And then he also wrecked a police car because he was kind of a reckless driver. So he always considered himself law enforcement, but he had been fired from a couple law enforcement jobs for like the dweeb. At this point, he kind of sounds like that Zimmerman guy.

Like who? Zimmerman, whatever it was. The guy was like just a fake police officer and he shot Trayvon Martin, remember? Yes, but like minus the racism. Yeah. Right. Yeah, I wasn't going with that. I was just being like he's a rent-a cop who's just like thinks

too highly of himself in that capacity. Yeah. Yeah. And his goal is to go back into law enforcement and get a police officer job eventually. He's also overweight, which like doesn't help, you know? Like, you can be a fat cop if you've been a cop for like 25 years. But like, and your first day, you can't be. You'd be a fat detective.

That's true. They don't run after anything. That's fair. But he wanted to be like a cop. He wanted to be like a on the ground. Right. So during the Olympics, he got a job as a night guard. at on a tower at Centennial Olympic Park,

which was this big park that was supposed to be like the central park of the Olympics where there were bands and there were gatherings and there were parties and all the things. He had the night shift, which was like not boring because things went into really, really late at night. So it wasn't like just quiet evenings. But he had like a very strict thing that he would do every day. He would like check the perimeter.

There was a bench next to him where he would let police officers sit there and he wouldn't let anybody else sit there. He'd be like, that's reserved for the police you know just like a little bit annoying taking his job a little bit too seriously is how people like had perceived him he sounds very obnoxious he sounds like an absolute fucking dweeb he's a dweeb but it's like not a bad guy he's just a dweeb you know um so on july 27th nineteen ninety six richard took a break from work he usually never took breaks but he had food poisoning and he had to go to the bathroom so he went to the bathroom which is like

going to be suspicious later because he never took breaks but he had food poisoning um he would remember everything in like such intense detail because that was his like I'm going to quote quote training you know like he was like I'm trained to remember faces and remember this and it's like annoying but also helpful if you need someone to do those things you know such a dork so he remember that there were some drunks and he was trying to get them to move it was like one o'clock in the morning and there was a band called jack mac and the heart attack playing and um richard noticed that there was an Alice pack, which is a very big Green Army backpack underneath a bench.

And they had had people leaving their bags, you know, like they do, like all over the place before. But he got closer to it with another guard. And they kind of opened it, like poked at it, and saw that it really was a bomb. So Richard alerts the GBI, which is the Georgia Bureau of Investigations, like the state place.

And meanwhile, so this is happening. him and the guy that he's with are trying to get people to leave, but also not cause a panic. So he's like trying to get people to move away from the bench, trying to get back up, trying to figure out what you do next. He's doing everything right. He is trying to get people to move. And meanwhile, someone calls 911 from a payphone and says there's a bomb in the Olympic park. You have 30 minutes. And this is like one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. But the 911 operator doesn't have the street address. Centennial Park because it's a brand new park.

So she has to call around for like 13 minutes to find someone who will tell her the address because she can't send people there if she doesn't have an address. Kind of wild. It also sounds very like diehard. Yeah, exactly. Like someone's on the phone. They can't do it. Everyone's panicking.

And so Richard Joule and another guard are trying to get people to move. But the bomb explodes at 120 a.m. And it is a shrapnel bomb. so like the boom obviously people hear it from all over but the real damage is going to be in the shrapnel so people get like you know nails and pieces of metal like thrown into their bodies only one person dies from the bomb her name is alice hawthorn she's 44 years old she was there with her daughter who was also injured a cameraman with turkish radio and television his name is melia euznil he was 40 he quote survived coverage of wars in azurbanian bosnia and the Persian Gulf, but died of a heart attack running to get coverage of the bombing. So technically only two people died, but 111 people were very severely injured. So Richard is there, you know, from before the bomb went off, and after the bomb went off, he's doing everything right. So he's like, if you can walk, come with me, like getting the people who are okay out of the way so that anyone

else can get help quickly. And he's just being a hero. Like he, you know, got people away from there. He helped people who needed help. He had all this information that he had remembered from when he scanned the perimeter, you know, all those things. And everything that he does is very helpful. And, you know, everything that you should do, what you would expect an officer or a security guard to do. He did, he did all those things. But then people start thinking, maybe he's helping too much maybe he knows a little too much and that starts the whole thing

so the two people who deserve blame for this for this debacle are reporter Kathy Scruggs and FBI agent Don Johnson so Kathy was like a reporter for the Atlanta Journal Constitution she was like a

cute female reporter who would like always be at the bar with the police trying to like get there give them to give her information and tell things. She was the first person to report that Richard was a suspect and um was it true it was but she's going to be in court later when this is all it kind of over and they try to get her to tell her source because someone involved in the case told her at a bar that Richard Jewell the hero was the main suspect. And it finds out later that the person who told her this was Don Johnson, the FBI agent in charge. So Don Johnson thinks that Richard Jule did it and he will not give that up. He won't even

look at anybody else. You know, Johnson had, you know, had some like kind of bad moves in, when he was in the FBI in New York and ended up in Georgia. And Kathy, her career is going to be destroyed by this. She eventually is going to die by suicide in early September 2001 and Don Johnson is going to die of lung disease and they both die before this case is closed.

Don Johnson dies thinking that Richard Jule did it even after he was let go. What was he even the woman again? Kathy Scruggs, S-C-R-U-G-G-S. I mean, it's sad. Yeah, it ruined her life. Essentially. Which it probably shouldn't have

because she was taking the advice of an agent or an investigating officer. Yeah, he sounds like a real piece of work, this guy. Yeah, it sounds like it was mostly his fault. Yeah. So, but Richard was like on Good Morning America. He was on Katie Couric. He was like a hero, like in the news, in America, all over the world. And but once he becomes a suspect, they make his life like a living hell.

The FBI goes to his house They take all of his things They take some 10 hours To go through his house And take all this evidence out It takes them four minutes later to return it They just give it back to them in boxes His poor mother Bobby

She's not just like a dumb woman Like she's very smart She has a career All these things She had a Tupper work collection That she'd been like working on for like 30 years And they ruined it They like wrote on it with the Sharpies

Isn't that terrible? So mean And so she ended up suing them and got $2,000 in the end. But Bobby is, you know, a great mother to Richard, and he's there to help her, and, you know, she's going to be with him during this whole thing. So after they do this raid on his apartment,

he lives with his mom, they do this raid, they bring him in, and Don Johnson, the FBI agent, is the one that interviews Richard for the first time. And he does something weird. He does the Miranda rights in the middle of it, which you can't do. you know he like does it at the wrong time and at first Richard is like I'm here to help look I'm super excited to be with fellow law enforcement and help you find this person and then he realizes

that they are interrogating him thinking that he did it and then they do the Miranda rights and then it's just like that's going to be part of the reason that Don Johnson's career gets destroyed as it should be because he did this in absolutely the wrong way he will Richard will call his lawyer Watson Bryant, who's like a person who he had known at a previous job, like an older man who he had a friendship with. And Watson's going to be in over his head. He's not really a criminal lawyer, but he's his first lawyer. And he's like, stop talking to the FBI right now, you know, as a lawyer would tell you to do. Right.

When he gets home after his first interrogation by the FBI, Richard Jules' mom, Bobby asks him if he did it. He said, no, mom, I didn't do it. And she never asked him again. She believed him, you know, the whole time. I'd be pissed to my mom even asked me that. What are you talking about? I know. She's like, can I, like, she's, I think she's like, how can I help you, you know, from here on?

Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough situation. And she believed him, you know, they are like 100% sure that it's him and the media loves it. At one point, there's a reporter on TV kind of yelling about it, like this woman in, in Atlanta yelling about it. And the assistant U.S. attorney calls the attorney general in Atlanta. says get this woman off the air now she's making this into a scandal that it like she's like way going overboard um and guess who that woman was no clue nancy grace no yeah yeah okay that was her first her first big thing and by the end of the year she'll have her job on court tv and become you know

be the yeller that she is so annoying yeah um so now people are interviewing richard jules friends as well and they are saying things like yeah it's weird they talk about being a police officer so much, you know? Like, he does want to be a hero. That is true. So things like that, I think, make it more suspicious, especially because the guy who did it in L.A., you know? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He kind of set the precedent. Yeah. So he gets a new lawyer named Jack Martin, who's more of a criminal lawyer to help him. They're making him do things like pretend to make the phone call. Like, there's a bomb in the park. You have 30 minutes, but like it doesn't match his voice. When he does meet with his new lawyer, his lawyer, his lawyer

does the thing where he's like is there anything that you want to tell me before we go off you know and do this like at the end and um richard jules says yes i haven't done my taxes in two years we're just poor guy yeah um the fbi is constantly trailing him they are at his house they're listening to his phone calls like he has a friend who's in the gbi and he wants his friend to come over because he's like hey i made a lasagna we come over so we can chat about this and his friend is like okay he comes over but his friend is wired you know so he like can't even trust anyone and they like you know he orders pizza and they grab the delivery guy to hold the door open so that he could like they can get pictures

of him they're just like camped outside out of his apartment they're making it he can't also he doesn't have a job you know he's like he doesn't have a job he's like really trying to figure out like how he's going to live his life now um there's jailhouse informants who were saying that they know that he did it but elbows didn't obviously didn't pan out um and then he also passes passes this lie detector test. There's just no evidence that Richard Jewell did this. You know, like there's nothing. No, it's just, it's just, if you're

kind of like an annoying pain in the ass, yeah, you're just an easy target. Yeah. Don't be an annoying pain in the ass. Yeah, exactly. He's definitely an easy target on this. So, also just to note, he has a best friend named Dave Duchess, and he's often there to help him. Dave Duchess

died in 2021 of COVID, but I just want to bring up that he was a good friend to Richard Jewel, like during all of this. So this is only a few months. So the bomb goes off in July. By October, the U.S. Attorney General in Atlanta sends him a letter saying that he is no longer a suspect. If they don't apologize, they don't like, you know, they just say you're not, you're not a suspect anymore. In 1997, Janet Reno did apologize.

She said, quote, I'm very sorry it happened. I think we owe him an apology. I regret the leak, the leak being the leak that, like, he was a suspect at all. so he didn't he's jane reno didn't leak it no no no but like the fbi i did right okay she's apologize yeah yeah yeah exactly um so richard tries to get his life back he does get a job offer in pendergrass georgia which is like a very very small town he becomes a police officer there eventually he'll be deputy sheriff in maryweather county georgia um he gets to be on saturday night live um norm mcdonald interviews him um during uh weekid update and ask

him if he also killed Lady Teresa and Princess Diana or brother Teresa and Princess Diana because they just died as well. It's a joke. He does sue the Atlanta Journal Constitution which is the newspaper because they were

comparing him to Wayne Williams like the guy who killed a bunch of children. They were like doing all this stuff like Jay Leno apologized to him. Tom Broca had to apologize he did make some money from those things but he had a a hard time you know meeting women and like one time he met a woman on a plane and they went on a date

and she turned out to be a reporter who just wanted to write an article about him which is shitty you know but he does meet a social worker named dana and they get married in 1998 they moved to a farm he's deputy sheriff he's he's doing great he's actually feeling healthier he lost a bunch of weight but he still has diabetes and on august 29th 2007 his wife called him a couple times and he didn't answer and she rushed home and found that he was dead in their bedroom. He had died of a heart attack. He had heart disease. And Richard Jewell died at the age of 44.

I mean, kind of a sad life overall, I would say. Very happy that he met Dana. It sounds like they had a lot of fun. He was very sweet to her. Richard would bring a rose to the spot where Alice Hawthorne was killed by the bomb every year. And Dana continues to do that the years since Richard passed. That's very sweet. Yeah.

so I mean he sounds like I mean he was in the right place of the right time to help but there he was like the kind of guy that was easy to pick on and obviously they wanted to like get this solved really fast and all of that so they just like focused in on him and really just like ruined his life for the rest of it I mean he probably wasn't going to last that long anyways yeah I mean pictures of him he does not look like he's doing good he looks good toward the end he looks thinner When he doesn't have his mustache on, he'll because he's a little bit healthier,

but it, like, wasn't enough, you know. He's just like a guy. He's just like Farva, you know. He lost 40 pounds. Yeah. But Fars, what are you thinking right now at the end of the story? Who actually did it?

Who actually did it? That's a great question. This isn't like, oh, God, there's a murderer out there that murders children and kills Casey Anthony's daughter, you know? like she did it like it's not like oj simpson where you're like there's a murderer out there if you didn't do it

dude but of course there isn't you know but in this case like there is someone out there who planted this bomb and guess who it is uh it's going to be one of those white nationalist groups right a thousand percent it's a dude it's one dude but he is a white nationalist dude um his name is eric robert rudolph so eric robert rudolph is mad about everything in his life he joins the army but he gets kicked out while he's there he just says a bunch of racist shit you know he's just like a piece of shit guy he is mad at the Olympics later he says this because of global socialism he also hates the official olympic song was imagined by john lennon and he hates that song so much like i mean i kind of get it and he wanted them to cancel the games but they did not cancel the games for the bombing they just amped up security and people were okay with that um So the FBI in trying to find this person actually did some, like, funny things. One thing that I thought was hilarious is so he had, he was kind of on the run for a while. He, Eric Rudolph, like, lives in the forest.

He only has a driver's license. He has no other identifying, you know, information. Like, he's very, like, as off the grid as you possibly can be literally, like, starving to death in the woods for a big part of the story. But he, when he snuck into or like walked into Centennial Park to plant the bomb, he has a goatee and he has like a hat on and the FBI has like pictures where they think that they might see someone dropping off the backpack and they send them to NASA to enhance them and NASA can't. Isn't that hilarious? I mean, yeah. I mean, what, I don't think their technology is going to help in. But I just like imagine.

Yeah, they do it in supertubers where he's like enhanced, enhance. enhanced enhanced It's like a pixel Yeah That's why they did do it in super shippers you're right Yeah So he Would do a couple other things

So he's just like basically a White supremacist Nationalist piece of shit Who like you know Wants to make this global statement He sets out this bomb He also will do two other bombs In the next couple of years

Because they don't find him for years he bombs a lesbian nightclub he bombs an abortion clinic killing a security guard which is the first murder at an abortion clinic in America and then but he like really really is on the run so he like camps in the in the woods he first becomes a suspect in the abortion clinic bombing on February 14th 1998 so it's two years after the Atlanta bombing he's not a suspect there yet. But he is in Alabama for this one because two witnesses and these two are also heroes. So Jeffrey Tikal and Jermaine Hughes

they see him leaving this place where they like a bomb wet off and they're like, that guy's weird and suspicious. So they follow him. One of them follows him when they get his license plate and they were able to find that the car was registered to him and that's how they get his name

for the first time, which is that they like went out and did that. Sorry, what year was that? 1998. Okay, so two years later. Okay. Yeah, so two years later. He also does stuff where like he's planting bombs all over, but he remembers where they

are. But when they do end up catching him, they have to like make deals with him for him to tell them where all this hidden dynamite is because he's like, oh, this is at like the FBI headquarters in Birmingham or this is like somewhere else. And like at one point he gets scared and he has like a. a bunch of other bombs, and he just, like, sets them off in a garbage can. So he, like, there was a chance that he has bombs, like, in parks and in forests, and someone else could, like, accidentally set them off.

You know, like, that's dangerous. So on May 5th, 1998, he becomes the 454th person on the 10 most wanted list. So he's, like, the 454th person to get on the list. He's on the 10 most wanted list. They're looking for him. They know he's dangerous. And he spends five years in the wilderness. He does stuff like he kills animals to live.

He has a friend who lives in, like, who owns like a food store and he like starts stealing stuff from him. And then ends up like stealing his car and his friend calls the police and says like, you know, he's out here. He's out here in the woods. Eventually they, eventually they find him. and when they find him he kind of like walks out of the woods and he's like behind a convenience store like dumpster diving and in the middle of the night a cop like sees him and finds him and you know and apprehends him and then they figure out who he is while they're trying to find him just as an aside like how we were saying how a lot of these you know people come from families that are fucked up his brother his his brother Daniel recorded himself. cutting off his hand with a saw to send a message to the FBI. What was the message? I have no idea.

Like, just to be like, I don't know, honestly. And then, like, his hand got reattached because someone went and found it and they put it back on and it was fine. But he was just like, like, it doesn't come from a great background. That's so weird. Maybe the message is, if I'm going to do this to me, imagine what I'll do to you. I guess, but it's not even the guy. It's his brother. So weird.

You know what I mean? So they end up, you know, they find him. He would do things like, one thing he was like, he was like eating salamanders and acorns and like stealing food from people's houses and dumpsters and things. And eventually they catch him. And he goes to court and he is convicted. And he is at the ADX Florence Supermex in Florence, Colorado, which I think we've talked about before. Yeah, it's like the crazy prison. And that that's where Eric Rudolph.

I think that he has been there since 2003, like a lot later. You might see of Tekazinsky. Yeah. Yeah. Very similar vibe. Like,

I'm living in the, I'm living in the woods. You know, he was caught on May 31st, 2003, which is wildly late. Yeah, you got seven years.

Yeah. But he like, those were shitty seven years for him, he really was starving to death in the woods just like Ted Kaczynski though also starving to death in the woods yeah it's um it's interesting how shitty these guys live and how much pride they take and how shitty they live

yeah who are you doing this for yeah yeah yeah losers so um yeah that's it that that's the story that's the 1996 Olympics and you know Richard Jule I'm glad we can remember him as a hero because he was

even though he's a dork, you know, he, he did, he did save lives by moving people out of there. And he was just a guy who wanted to be a cop in like a, I want to help people away. Tragic, tragic existence. I mean, 44 years. And so young to die of a heart attack, you know. And a big, I mean, a not insignificant chunk of that was spent being harangued 24-7 from all angles. Oh, another thing I forgot to say is he did. There was, remember when in Japan, when the Amshariqio cults gassed that subway line in Tokyo?

There was something else that they had gasped in like a suburb and a man had found it in like a weird way. And he was wrongly accused as well. And he reached out to Richard to be like, hey, like this happened to me in the media just like it happened to you. And Richard went to Japan and did spend some time there, some time with him too. hated the food. Nice. Wait, you said he hated the food?

He did, yeah. Yeah, he looks like a pizza hut kind of a guy. Exactly. I think he found all the pizza huts in Japan. But that was cool. Then he got to travel to Japan, you know, and like meet another person who had the same thing happen to him. So, you know, I think, I don't know if I feel torn about it because he also then,

now we know about him, you know, wouldn't have if this hadn't happened to him. He would just be, you know, another, another guy, but we know about him because of this story um which is you know kind of fun it's i mean it's it's yeah like it adds something to the lore of the olympics you know yeah exactly exactly so um yeah wild so there's something wild i think every single time there's an olympics um and i think because you know people want to make a statement you know people want to like you know the world is watching it's it's not ever going to be like the dream of like a a lovely everyone gets a long sporting event it's always something else happening and they're at times a very very tragic um but um i don't know hopefully

everything goes smoothly this year we'll see what happens but we also live in turbulent time so i don't know it um it reminds me of those people who throw like soup or whatever or paint on art it's just like they just need to get attention in whatever way they didn't need it I guess yeah yeah hopefully there's some cool sporting things that are going to happen i'm excited for gymnastics i'm excited for this brig dancing to start um yeah i want to see hopefully hopefully it's also i'll keep you posted on how i'm going to watch it but i also have not received my team USA sweatshirt yet from old navy so that's a tragedy we'll wait with beta breath yeah wait till i posted something on instagram because it was someone who's like how you judge people who

wear like anything with the American flag on it up, but then during the Olympics, you're like, woohoo. Yeah. Which is me. You got to flex that pride. Yeah. Um, exciting. Well, very, very fun story, Taylor, fun little series, a little four-parter. Yeah, I learned, I learned so much. And I feel excited because I feel like I

can take these little tidbits of things that I learned about the Olympics with me for the rest of my life. Yeah. And the rest of us will as well, now that we have it. Um, yeah. And probably some really fun, exciting things that are going to be happening here a little bit with the Olympics starting up in Paris. When does it start? I think, oh, that's a good question. I think the 27th.

All right, so end of this month. Yes, at the end of July. Yeah. I wonder when the opening ceremony is. It is July 26th at 10.30 a.m. Pacific time. So convenient to be watching TV. I mean, honestly, who knows? I hope, hopefully I can have it on one of my monitors because I really, I do want to see it.

And then, you know, stay tuned for 2028 when Fars and I will be broadcasting live from Los Angeles during the Olympics, and that will be very fun. We're going to be correspondence at that Olympics, I believe, yeah. Yes. So that would be super exciting. We're going to get, wear blazers and American flag ties. And, yeah, it's going to be really fun. Totally. I'm so in.

I can't wait for that. Very in. Sweet. Well, Taylor, thanks for sharing. Is there anything else you want to read off for? the folks before we I have one note from a listener Nadine wanted me to tell you

that she loved the Operation Pistorius and likes the idea of like bumbling spy keepers There's actually quite a few of those Yeah, those are so fun They might have to be like mini episodes Or like I just string a couple of them together

To make it a full episode but there is There's a lot of content there Yeah, they are really fun so thank you Nadine I agree that was a fun one cool yeah so please find us on all the social media at doom to fail pod email us doom to fill pod at gmail.com if you have any suggestions and please please please tell your friends thank you to my friend jen who left us a review on apple podcasts really appreciate it um if you can do that for us that'd be awesome sweet thank you thank you everyone thanks taylor thank you thanks for us yep bye

I'm going to be able to be.