Doomed to Fail - Ep 1 - Part 1: Catherine the Great & Peter III

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

We are Re-Releasing our first episodes as stand-alone stories! We'll pull apart one of our earlier episodes every Friday into shorter half-episodes.This week we're going back to our very FIRST episode! Taylor started us off with the story of Catherine The Great and her 'wet noodle' of a husband, Peter the III. Learn how this influential leader dealt with a man-child husband and a controlling Empress -- all while orchestrating of the greatest coups of the Enlightenment!Pictures via the creative commons & AI. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] Sources:Catherine the Great by Robert k. MassieGreat Catherine by Carrolly Erikson  Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

Hey everyone, it's Taylor from Doom to Fail. Today, it's our first re-release episode. So our first 30 episodes, we did two stories per episode. Then we started dividing them and releasing Mondays and Wednesdays. So to make it a little bit easier to go back into the archive, to pick out your favorites and re-listen, we're going to re-release our early episodes, divided in half. So first up is episode one, part one, the story of Catherine the Great and her husband, Later, hope you enjoy.

In a matter of the people of the state of California versus Orenthal James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Welcome to June Fail, the podcast, where we evaluate other people's tragic relationships so we don't have to evaluate our own. I'm Fars, joined by my co-host, Tay. and every week will be bringing you two tales, one historic and one true crime related of

relationships that were doomed to fail. Taylor, what is our signature drink today? Well, today I will be talking about Catherine the Great, who was Empress of Russia. Signature drink. No, I know. I'm getting there. And the signature drink, because talking about Russia, is just vodka. Love it. No mixers. No, no tonic, nothing, just let's do some shots of vodka. That's our signature drink from the alcoholic side. Perfect. And on my side, the signature drink is going to be water because we are going to be covering some teetotolers who strayed pretty far from their belief system. So with that said, let's go ahead and kick things off. Taylor, do you want to start us off? Yes, I will. And you know what? Hello, Fars. I'm going to focus on

historical relationships that were doomed to fail. Kings and queens and emperors and arrangements and arranged marriages and a lot of violence in coups and that sort of thing. I might talk about some more modern ones later, but right now we're going to start in the 1700s. And so I mentioned already, I'm talking about Catherine the Great. It's a little bit selfish because I do have a podcast that I've been thinking about doing for like years and have not done about America's first ladies. And what is cool and what I want to talk about there and talk about here is that we're in the Enlightenment. We are in like the late 1700s. This is the same time that like in America, there's Martha Washington. And then also there's Maria Antoinette and also there's

Catherine the Great. So like a lot of really like interesting stuff that's happening like with women and with rulers and with like revolutions around this time. Make sense? Do you know where we are? Yep. Okay. So yeah, in general, I just freaking love it. I think it's really fun that we're all all these people lived at the exact same time. Have you seen Hamilton? I have not, but I've heard the playlist of Hamilton. Got it. So I feel like this reminds me of, you know, when the women are like, how lucky are we to be alive right now? Like, that's how I feel about this time and history. It's just like super exciting. I have some sources. So, you know, how lucky you are to be live right now. This is enlightenment. Super exciting things are happening in the world on the globe.

My sources are I read two books on Catherine the Great in 2021 during pandemic reading time. The first one is called Kathy McGrath by Robert K. Massey. It was okay. The last quarter of it is just like a list of people that she slept with. And like there's more to life than that. You got to know. Yeah. Well, I don't want just like your biography isn't going to be like a list of people you slept with.

I hope. I don't think. I hope that's not the case. I mean, like maybe it'd be interesting for like a little bit. But after a while you'd be like, okay, good for you. Whatever. So that one was okay. But book two that I read was better.

It was called Great Catherine, but Carole Erixton. So that's the one that I recommend reading for this. So I read those in 2021, and then I did some Wikipedia and chat, GVT stuff to, like, jog my memory. And then also, have you seen the show The Great on Hulu? I have not. Oh, my gosh. So it says it's a mostly true story because it's not very true. It's like some things are true, people, different timelines or whatever.

But essentially it's Catherine the Great and her husband, Peter the Third. It's super sexy. Everyone is like really cool. And in real life, they were not. It is not that sexy or that cool. But definitely still watch it because it gives you like the vibe of being in Russia. And that's where they do the tons of shots of vodka. And then they just throw their glass on the ground and go, huzzah.

Did they have indoor plumbing back then? No. How sexy could have really been? That's such a good question because not that sexy. Yeah, not very. Yeah, no. I feel like people didn't shower that much. Well, definitely not shower, but didn't bathe that much. A lot of like heavy makeup and like powdered wigs. And you're totally right. No, no running water. There's a story that is not in my story, but to share. And someone was like,

oh, I got a new summer house, essentially. And all like the royalty went to the summer house. And in the middle of the night, half of it collapsed into a lake and there were rats everywhere. Not great. That was just like normal and that was like a nice house. Yeah, not fantastic. So no indoor plumbing and no architect. Got it.

Yeah, no. People are, they're dirty. They're a little sticky. They're also cold because you're in Russia. And you're really, really far from the rest of Europe. And you're isolated like Russia is. It always has been feeling is isolated, both, you know, physically and like culturally.

Before we go to Russia, we're going to go to Prussia. Have you heard of Prussia? Do you know what that was? I feel like that was the opening scene in the Gladiator movie from forever ago was them being in Prussia, and that is the extent of my knowledge of Prussia. Maybe. I don't remember that, but sure. I'm sure they probably are. It's like where Germany is and like northern area of Germany, because Germany became a country like very recently. Like in the beginning of the 1900s, like it was like a collection of different states and different places. So we're in Germany. Catherine the Great was born, Sophie, Frederica, August von Anhalt, Zerb Storneberg, and 1729. That was impressive. Thank you. I tried.

It's a long, it's a long-ass name. She was like minor royalty. So, like, not someone who was, like, going to be queen, but she was, like, kind of, like, hung out in those circles. Her mom, Joanna Elizabeth of Holstein-Gahtwarp, had to get her married. Had to get her married to someone, like, soon to be able to, like, up their family status. that was her mom's goal. In The Great, she's played by Jillian Anderson, and it's very sexy and fun. But in real life, she was kind of, she kind of sucked. She was kind of awful. And so she wants to strengthen Prussia's relationship with Russia. And so is going to send her daughter to Russia to marry Peter III, who is, well, he's not Peter the third yet, but he's going to be, and he's in line to be the emperor of Russia. So that's where she's sending Sophie, our daughter, over there. This also leads to things like, have you ever seen that? I'm going to ask you a lot of questions. You're going to be like, no, what are you talking about?

Have you seen that picture of King George, Kaiser Wilhelm, and Tsar Nicholas together right before World War I? Surprisingly so, yes. Nice, nice. So this is the start of that. So everyone's going to be related. We're going to have a lot of cousins and relationships across Europe before all the World Wars. I'm excited that you seen that photo. Yeah, I'm actually surprised that you asked me if I saw something and I actually had.

So, close to me. Oh, gosh, I love it. So Peter, the third, will be. Peter the third. He was, they actually met when they were kids. There were second cousins. She didn't like him because he was a wet noodle. So I feel like I might be describing people in terms of their noodle wetness. And he's a wet, he's a wet one. Like the last noodle in the pot that's like stuck on the bottom and you can't get it off the pot where you're trying to clean. Hold on. So the two people that are supposed to get together are cousins. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, just like, you know, Queen Elizabeth and what's his face that just died? They're cousins. Learning a lot, got it. Yeah, that's, I think that's kind of part for the course in royalty is that there's going to be a lot of cousins getting married. So they're second cousins. So like, you know, whatever. So Joanna says, I want to get my daughter to marry someone who is rich, all these bachelors everywhere. There's like King Louis in France.

Like all stuff is happening. I got to get my girl in front of. of a guy. So she sends him to Russia. She goes with Russia, with Russia, goes with her daughter to Russia, blah, blah, blah. And they stay there for a little bit. The repress Elizabeth is currently running Russia, likes her, doesn't like her mom, sends her mom home. And then Sophie lives in Russia than forever. She never sees her mom again. She also never sees her dad again. When she left Prussia, her dad was like, promise me you won't convert to Russian orthodoxy. And she does like immediately when she gets to Russia because one of Catherine big things is like I am

Russian. I'm going to learn language. I'm going to talk to the people. And that was a lot big part of her ruling style like later on. So I actually have a fun quote from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica describing Peter and his like wet noodleness. So you can kind of get a better idea of what he was like. And I'll show you a picture of him. You'll be like, oh, okay. I mean, not a picture, like a painting, but like they couldn't even make it flattering. But in the Encyclopedia had said, nature had made him mean, smallpox had made him hideous, his deranged habits made him loathsome, and Peter had all the sentiments of the worst kind of small German prince of the time. He had a conviction that his friendship entitled him to disregard decency and the feelings of others. He planned brutal practical jokes in which blows had always a share. His most manly taste did not rise above the kind of military interest, which had been defined as a corporal's mania. The passion for uniforms, pipe clay buttons, the tricks of preyed, and the froth of discipline. He detested the Russians and surrounded himself with Holsteiners. So he wasn't great. He doesn't sound like a picnic to be in a relationship with, at the very least.

And when I say like, when I say corporals mania, like he would, he would play with toy soldiers until he was very old. And then once he got more power, he would make his serfs and his servants dress like soldiers, but not Russian soldiers, like Prussian soldiers, and then play toy soldiers. with real people. So kind of like a Kevin Spacey from House of Cards. Yeah. And then maybe a Kevin Spacey in real life as well. But like, yeah, yeah, but like less manly. I don't know if I agree with that. But carry on. I'll go with your interpretation. Like if that's possible, I just that's, I think come like shorter at least. I feel like you're shorter. I don't know how tall Kevin Spacey is either, but shorter anyway Peter barely spoke Russian you know played his played with his toy soldier

sometimes they were real people so he actually was not born in Russia either he was born in like another Prussian Holstein area in northern Europe and was brought to Russia because his aunt Elizabeth was the Empress and needed an heir so she was considering him to be an heir he's actually the grandson of Peter the Great but very far removed from any of that greatness so let me ask me questions yes i feel like the red flag in this relationship is like who these people are it sounds like peter is the worst match for anybody and this poor girl was ripped from our homeland and her family to marry a cousin who's also a stranger it just all sounds bad yeah no i feel like any any arranged arranged thing i feel like has is probably red flag any like especially

if it's like for royal purposes you know like to enhance the relationship between prussia and russia it's not to like because you like each other or because like maybe you like each other or like whatever it's like all about land it's all about like um you know getting getting power um it's it's you know doesn't matter if it's your cousin so like it's definitely um you know a little game of thronesy because it's just like power and incest and all of that stuff so i think that obviously is a hugest red flag. And then Peter's just like not mature enough to be in a relationship. He's he's never had to be and he doesn't understand like what it would take emotionally to be in a relationship with someone. But I don't know if that was a thing then. Yeah.

Does it sound good. Yeah, we'll probably get to this later. But do we know if they were in love at any point or? They weren't. No. Okay. Of course not. Of course. Sorry. No, definitely not. Like she gets there. She's 16 when they get married. And she gets, She goes there in 1744. She gets married. Her mom leaves. She starts to just like really fully be like, I'm going to be Russian. So she learned, like I said, she learns Russian.

She becomes friends with the Empress. Empress likes her. She starts to like get involved with the Russian community. She's also reading a lot of stuff because she speaks Russian and French and Latin and German and blah, blah. So she's like corresponding with Voltaire and like really trying to like bring these Western ideas to Russia because Russia is like way behind everyone else. like economically, infrastructure-wise. And part of that is because of the isolation. You know, like, it's cold as shit.

You have to take a sled to get there. You know, that's how far away it is. It's not, like, easy to get to. So Catherine's now the Grand Duchess, Katarina, Alexevina, but so no longer Sophie, she's, Katarina, she's Catherine. And her and Peter get married, and she's, you know, reading and doing all this stuff,

but she's not having babies. And the question is, like, why isn't she having babies? It's been like a couple years, like what's going on. And the, the rumor is Peter just didn't know how. Like he didn't, no one told him how. To what? To make a baby. Oh, the whole process.

Yes. Interesting. Okay. Quite simple process of baby making. He just didn't know. So. It's not always simple. Like maybe they like slept in the same bed, but they just like never, it was never

consummated. They never had, they had, didn't do that. So eventually he figures it. out someone tells him like it's pretty much like a drunk bros around a thing and then being like so peter you know your wife is not pregnant what's going on and he's like oh we're hugging a lot i don't know you know and then someone like tells him how babies are made and then he's like oh and then he gets a mistress because he's like that sounds fun you know yeah yeah he sounds like he learned how uh most of us learned from bros well not bros more more so like in you know middle school

probably but yeah yes exactly so he's like mentally there he's like mentally in middle school so Catherine's like okay fine well then I'll also like take a lover and so she you know they both have relationships which is super normal in this time also like a king or queen will have a favorite you know someone who is like they're a person to like you know have sex with and not worry about like you know getting pregnant so much because ideally like your wife would just be constantly having babies because half on they're going to die got to get a boy all that kind of thing Right. Like, you've seen, you've seen, did you watch House of the Dragon?

No, but everybody tells me too, but I'm going to be a contrarian and wait until it's done and then watch it the way I did with Breaking Bad. Anyway, spoiler alert, like 75 women die in childbirth. So like, it's the same idea where like everyone's dirty. And if the baby's like not coming out perfectly, you're going to die. So they just have various lovers. That's totally normal and totally fine. But they're trying to, you know, get to power in Russia and they have a little bit of a idea to do a coup against. Elizabeth and who is, you know, Peter's aunt, she's a current Empress. They're in line to be

to be next, but they're trying to overthrow her. Elizabeth finds out and says, listen, you guys got to give me an error and I won't have you killed, essentially. So they do, they do make a baby. His name is Paul. He's a boy. He does become emperor of Russia eventually. He is also a wet noodle, which I think is proof of his, you know, parentage is that he's a butt noodle just like his dad. It is interesting, but you named him Paul. It's, it's like Paul's, the guy you study with at the library like you want something more powerful than like an ivan or i don't know maybe that's just me i have an ivan in this story perfect so this timeline is wax please if anyone is a as a russian historian don't come to

my house and tell me but elizabeth is empress of russia when we know when they're when they're there she became empress but overthrowing um emperor ivan who was two months old so emperor ivan was just two months old he was like you know a baby and she was like fuck this i i'm even though i'm a woman i'm still going to do it so she put him in jail and he was in jail for 20 years and then one day there are people who were like trying to help him escape and accidentally killed him wow lots of bad luck yeah yeah didn't have the stones at two months old to withstand a coup i take it yeah so Ivan didn't make it but he was he was also someone who who could have been emperor but he wasn't so we have Paul eventually. So now, you know, they're hanging out. Peter has a mistress who's rumored to just

be awful, just like not very nice, like not pretty. People are like, why do you have this terrible woman as your, as your mistress? But he like loved her. So that's like Peter's great love is, is this woman. And Catherine's great love is a man named Gregory Orlov. And they are, he's a general. And he's like, you're so smart. We know better than Peter. like we have to be prepared to overthrow him when he becomes emperor and they kind of they start thinking about that and planning that for a really really long time nobody was they were surrounded by people was this was this wouldn't so clear that something was going to be going awry at some point when she your wife is hooking up with the guy who controls the military yeah you didn't see this

coming i take it i think he just like doesn't care because he's doing like kid stuff you know He's playing with like toy soldiers and he's probably just talking to this woman who's his what is he should be mistress. Yeah. Oh, totally. So he's just like not really, I don't think he's all there. He just wants to play. He wants to. He also has a lot of plans to like align with Prussia and like side with them in like different wars and things that where Russia really wouldn't do that. So, you know, he's just kind of like busy doing his own things. They don't live together. You know, there's like a whole all sorts of things. Like they're. they're pretty separated. And then, so Elizabeth, who is empress, is she dies in 1762 and Peter becomes emperor. He is emperor for about six months. That's as long as he makes it. So she, you know, he's making everybody really mad. But he does pass like 200 new laws. So there's actually a little bit that I was reading where like, maybe he's not the worst and like new, new historians or like being like, well, he did some progressive things. He definitely wanted to separate like church's date. And like, you know he couldn't he wasn't like the worst human ever maybe he's like a not soaking wet noodle

um but i don't know i didn't read a lot about that but he did a bunch of stuff so 200 new laws in his first six months katherine is just like smarter than him you know and people can see that and she's like doing this thing and people are excited about her so um in july 1762 six months after elizabeth dies peter starts to actually get a little nervous he's like oh i can see you're hanging out with people that maybe could not want me to be emperor. So he finally catch you on. Yeah. Yeah. So he has them all arrested. So Catherine said it happens like in the middle of the night, in one day, all of a sudden, all her people are arrested. And like she's like, I don't know what, getting letters from pit horses. I don't know. It's like happening really fast. And she's like,

so she runs to where the soldiers are. And she says, listen, everyone, you need to protect me for my husband. He's going crazy. He arrested my friends. Like he's the bad guy. I want to be in charge of Russia. I will do a better job than him. And she says the same thing to the clergy and everybody fucking loves it. They're like, this sounds great. It's been rumors. People have been talking about it. So they all swear allegiance to her. And they do this like weird thing with like boats where like Peter's on a boat and she's on a boat and she's like, oh my God, just give up. He like tries her and away. Then he finally, he like, he gives up and she makes him sign over abdication paper. So she is now the Empress. I love how directly the parallel here is when a relationship break.

up and you have shared mutual friends. And it's like, are you my friend or are you his friend? It's the exact same thing, except with like armies and people of the court, I guess. Exactly. And like 90% of them chose her, you know, because they were like, you seem like, at least you fucking speaker language, you know, like you, if they knew nothing, like they knew that. So, so Catherine says, okay, thank you for signing this over. I'm going to send you to jail for a little bit and then we'll talk later. Like, that sounds great. But guess what happens? she kills him yeah they never talk he dies he mysteriously dies in jail like two days later so just like all those people in russia right now who get thrown out of like windows of hotels

basically yeah like oh that's crazy just like iven who got killed by his people saving him that makes no sense you know you get killed when you're in a russian jail probably i could i could have guessed that i could presume that yeah so peter is now gone they never had a chance to talk it out he's just gone and Catherine is the Empress of Russia and she rules Russia for three decades. She does a bunch of like cool modernizing reforms, some stuff she doesn't do. She just has more kids. She meets, you know, a couple other men who become her favorites. When she gets older, when she's like 60, she has his favorite, like, boyfriend who's, like, in his 20s.

And she just, like, loves him. And they just have, like, such a good time together. And he dies and she's so devastated because he was, like, another person that she really loved or love. He chews on her a bunch. So she, like, you know, gets, like, kicks him out. but ends up still, like, you know, hooking up by a bunch of people, which, again, it's not the most interesting about her, but it happens. So she has more kids.

She expanded the empire into Asia, into Europe. She was, you know, had an alliance with England. So she was really just kind of talking to everybody. And one of the cool things that she did first was she visited as much of Russia as possible, which is really, really hard. Like, literally, she was in, like, a sled full of furs and, like, going across, like, the, what's it called? What's it called there?

the russian andra the siberian yeah yeah so she's like doing all that she there's a big part of russia that it's islam so she's like you know cool with them she's cool with different religions she's like you know really doing that kind of stuff she um expands to paper money she creates banks they're the thing that isn't great that's not great with any of the leaders during this time is a relation to like slavery and serfdom so in russia they didn't really have the like the transatlantic slave trade. That's really how that's happening at this time. But they did have like, you know, half of Russia was a serf, which is pretty much like you are indentured to, you know, the person who owns your land, who owns their land. And it's a pretty crappy way to live. So, you know,

that still happens. And the serfs were very much like, well, she's enlightened and all these things. But why are we still living this really shitty life? Which is like, yeah, why are you? But it's because people still need, rich people are still like, we're still rich. She became a painter of The arts, her art collection is now the Hermitage Museum in Moscow, right? Or Cipater Roots or wherever it is. That's where, that's her collection. She invited a lot of people to Russia. She also inoculated people against smallpox.

So she was like pro-vaccination and did it herself. So did they also accuse her of embedding microchips in her or when they got vaccinated or? No. The concept was too foreign. Yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting is like they were scared. People were scared. And then when they saw people didn't die from it, they did it themselves.

So they, like, used logic to be like, oh, maybe this does work and then did it and then we're okay, rather than being like, I'm going to be mad about this forever and never do anything. So the people in the 1700s, Russia, who have no running water, were essentially more enlightened when it came to vaccines than modern day people. Got it. Yeah. That's fantastic. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know.

And then one is the last people that she was with another, like, great. love of her life was General Potemkin. And did you ever see, this is far, the Battleship Potemkin, which is like one of the first movies ever made? Definitely did not see that. It's in, it's silent obviously. No. But it, I mean, honestly, it's like, this is what I remember from, I took like a film propaganda class in grad school. And it's like, this, it's a story of a battle. And the battleship's named Potemkin. And it's like coming up to port. And like, I just remember people, like, falling down the stairs. I don't know why there's stairs because it's also a battleship, so I don't really understand.

I should watch it again, but there were people falling down the stairs and rolling, but one of the first movies ever made in Russia and the world. And that's what I think of, or think of Potempton. But then, so they were married. They actually, like, got secretly married, most people think, and they were, like, pretty happy towards, like, the end of her, end of her life. He ended up leaving her to go out and, like, do, you know, army things to go out to, out to battle.

And then he ended up leaving her for several of his nieces. like he dated several of his nieces which is gross and then he died um you know in his 50s like pretty young out in the battlefield so another kind of gross incestual thing that was like happening then i'm gonna go on limb and say those relationships were also doomed to fail yes his sister was like can you stop baiting my daughters yeah so gross so you know whatever katherine liked him and that one didn't work out either so once she died you know she did have a favorite around but she basically you know she was married to peter she might have gotten married to Potemkin. She did it or love for a long time. They went to like dinner, but like they

did the coup. They were together for a long time. And those are the great loves of her life. And she died on November 16th, 1796. People who didn't like her said that she died having sex with a horse. Okay. But you know, might kill you and it's not true. But she had a stroke like old people do. So after her son, Paul, other wet noodle became emperor and made a bunch of bad decisions that led to the fall of the Russian Empire later. Wow. For World War I. So she was kind of the beginning of all of that, tried to do a lot for the

Enlightenment. You know, I think she was really successful in her life out in Russia, but definitely not meant to have like a fairy tale move to a place, Mary the Prince, become the queen. That part of the fairy tale was not, not in the cards for her. So what would you, what would you say? I mean, this seems pretty obvious at this point. But what would you say are the clear red flags that were going on here? I mean, I want to say, like, her, I think she made the best of that situation because she could have done, like, Marie Antoinette also was in a very similar situation, just like buried to someone random who sucked.

And she did more like hanging out in court. And, you know, the reason that people feel the way they do about Maria Antoinette versus Catherine the Great, because she was like, I really want to do these things. I think that she wouldn't have had that opportunity if her husband had been more of a green flag, you know? Yeah. Like if she had been, if he had been like, hey, I'm awesome. And then she'd been really happy, then she would have had, you know, 10 kids with him. And she would have just been, you know, the, you know, his, you know, there with him while he did all of his stuff. And she would have been, she could have been happy doing that.

But he sort of gave her the opportunity to do other things because he ignored her. And he was like playing with his friends and like, you know, doing stuff that like, he, he, he, didn't, he didn't see her as a threat, and he should have. Yeah. He didn't have capacity to do that. It sounds like it worked out for Catherine. And the fact that she has now gone down his history as Catherine the Great is a huge indicator of that.

Yeah. He came from, like, a lineage of Peter the Great, and he's just like, Matt, Peter. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Wet noodle. I don't like wet noodles. Okay.

Really interesting. Cool. So that, that's the story of Catherine the Great, her wet noodle. Peter the third in the relationship that was never going to be super in love, but ended up making her very successful, which was, you know, always fun to see. And then Fars, I handed over to you for, give us something more recent, give us some true crime relationships that turned bad. I'm like, I'm nervous. All right, there you have it.

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