Doomed to Fail - Ep 12: I'm Troy McClure - You Might Recognize Me From The Nika riot - Phil Hartman & The Nika Riot

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

This week Farz breaks everyone’s hearts with the tragic death of beloved comic Phil Hartman. Seriously, what a loss for humanity. Don’t kill your spouse! Sheesh.Taylor brings it way back to the year 532 when the Green and Blue chariot teams got into such a brawl that 30,000 people died. There’s other stuff like Emperor Justinian and his wife Theodora - so it is relationship related!We’re also up on Youtube! If that’s where you listen, we’re there! Please subscribe! Follow us on Instagram & Facebook!  @doomedtofailpodhttps://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpodYoutube - https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpodPhil Hartman via Vulture, SNL Wiki, and Amazon.Justinian and Theodora, and the Hippodrome via the public domain along with the painting of how crazy a chariot race is. Don’t you feel like 4 is too many horses?Deadly Moments in History - The Nika Riots Stuff you missed in History class Blue versus Green: Rocking the Byzantine Empire Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

In the matter of the people of the state of California, first is Hortonthall James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Dean to Fail. I'm Fars. Join here.

Fuck it up again. Hi, everyone. Well, that's her name. That is my name, but that's not how. I got to do this. I do the funny. Welcome. Hi, everyone.

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I'm Fars. I'm joined here by Taylor. Taylor, how are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm tired. I locked myself out of my house last night, and I sat there for two hours and 40-degree weather, waiting with like no clothes on, basically waiting for a locksmith, which was awesome.

My dog looked at me. I was going to. She was like staring at me, like, you realize this is stupid, right? Like, she literally used giving me that eye. She's real embarrassed, I bet. Yeah, I was going to ask about the weather. So it wasn't raining? I don't know.

That was, yeah, at the very least it wasn't raining. So that's what I had your phone. I did have my phone. Did you have your phone? If I didn't have my phone, I don't actually know what I would have. What would you, what do you do? Like, I don't know. I don't know my neighbor's house and hope they don't call the police.

I don't know. I guess. Were you wearing shoes? I don't know. Yeah, I was wearing shoes. That's good at least. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you got in and don't do that again.

Yeah, I'm going to try my best. Taylor, did you want to call out the most recent addition to the media channels portfolio of the Doom to Fail network? Oh, yes, absolutely. So I started uploading our audio to YouTube. So it's just like our picture and then the audio, but I know that YouTube is a big platform for listening to podcasts. So I put everything on there. And our episode about Alex Murdoch and him being a murderer has 180 or something views already. I don't know people are listening to the whole thing. It also has two thumbs downs, which I feel like is not necessary. And I can't find out who thumbs downed it. But we did gain two more subscribers. We have four subscribers. And so, yeah, that's a fun way to listen to it. So if you're on YouTube, please subscribe.

I'll put the link in the notes, but it's just like doomed to fail podcast at YouTube. And I want everyone to subscribe. Just come on there. It's another way to listen to it. That's super fun. And then also we've been hopping on Instagram this week. I posted something about RFK Jr. Making an exploratory committee at Run for President.

And I have several crazy people. wrote comments about how he's a great man and a great liberal and upholds his family's legacy. And then when I go to their profiles, there's one person who's literally their entire profile is trying to get chat GPT to confirm that trans people aren't real. And I'm like, grow up. That's so dumb. What are you doing with your life? I wonder how we strung the theory together that you use chat GPT.

I don't know. I mean, I guess chat GPT is pretty powerful. Teller, how many views did you say we had on the Dope Murdof, your family? I think like 180. I can actually, I can look. Okay, we're at 183 because you messaged me yesterday saying 120. So wait, at 8 p.m. yesterday, my time, we had 128 and then we went up by 60 as of this morning. Yeah.

In like 14 hours. I know. I think that's because of some keywords. And then also people started watching the other ones. So traders and terrorists, Russian to the apocalypse got some views. not as many but a couple so I don't know many people look around so that's exciting we'll eventually know yeah it's definitely not people we know it will eventually actually just because we record these as videos so we'll eventually just upload the videos as well once

yeah we'll get there I need I need to learn how to edit better as you all already can tell for my regular editing I think you'd do great you too you try itself to do it in like four minutes so great job so Taylor what is a first off who's you want first today is it me Yeah, too. Okay. Do you want to tell us what you're drinking is and I'll segue into the true crime and tell what my drink is? Yeah. So for me, we're going to drink, we're going to drink more wine because we're going back into ancient times where wine was like water.

You just drink wine. I don't know if you drank water because we're going to go to the Eastern Roman Empire and Byzantium later. So get your red wine out. Byzantium, love it. Over to you. Awesome. Okay.

I will kick things off. My drink today is a drink. y'all probably won't remember because if you're much younger than taylor and i you won't remember much of what i'm going to talk about today the drink is slice soda which if y'all do remember it was basically in competition with spright and seven up for the war of the lemon flavored sodas which we all remember of course in the 90s of course the reason i picked slice is because the pitch man back in the 90s is who I'm going to be discussing. He was really funny and he calls the cans that they come in, metallic containers and promotes it by

saying if you buy six of them, they come with a plastic carrying container, which of course is the plastic thing that holds a six cans together. It's silly. It's over the top. It's a commercial. It was legitimately their pitchman. But it's also an accurate descriptor of who I'll be discussing today. this was probably one of my favorite humans we lost in a very very tragic way and i think you remember this person taylor uh this is another one of those people when i found the found out the news that they had passed it was a complete take to the gut i'm going to be discussing today phil hartman oh yeah i love being our age i love being our age because like we We understand.

These kids don't get it. Oh, my heart. I'm going to get on my rocking chair with my spittoon and straw hat in a minute. So let's go into the bio of Phil Hartman and who he was. So Phil was born in Ontario, Canada, which I never knew. I didn't know he was a Canadian. I thought he was one of ours, which he clearly is not. His early life really isn't all that interesting.

He had a ton of siblings. The family moved around a bunch. That's basically the gist of it. Except there's one weird connection he has to Marilyn Manson and the Manson murders. He went to school with Squeaky Fromm. Did you know that? Oh, no way. Charles Manson, but what I say?

No way. You said Marilyn Manson. I've been listening to a lot of rock after the Nirvana episode. Yeah. That's interesting. Squeaky Fromm is from Canada? No, no, when they moved to California. Got it.

Yeah. So. I'm going to look up a picture of Phil Hartman, have him to smile at me. during this uh yeah i i watched a lot of phil hartman while i was doing this so i remember him hold on i'm gonna go admonish luna okay oh i'm looking at far as i'm gonna tell you where he remembers phil hartman from but news radio oh he was so delightful in news radio obviously he was on SNL just like a really sweet man admonishment complete i think great i was going to say say Taylor, I mostly remember Phil from Saturday Night Live. I'm wondering how you remember him the most.

Definitely from SNL. I watched it like live in the 90s. I also feel like his voice comes up and like a ton of like animated things. And like whenever hear him, I'm like, oh, it's full heart man. I can tell. And then also, not recently, but like 10 years ago, we rewatched news radio. And he was so good in that. And also I'm looking it up and being reminded that two awful people, were in news radio joe rogan and andy dick who are both fucking terrible so that's interesting that they just happened to be in there too but uh yeah he was so sweet in news radio radio radio again i'm going to disagree with you on the joe rogan bit but i will agree with you on the andy dick bit and both of those are going to be pretty prominent characters in in this story as i go about discussing it we can we can discuss joe rogan offline but he is going to come up i'm surprised no continue ahead oh his bill clinton impression his bill i watched i watched so many of his clips where he's he the one where he goes to a macdonald okay you know what

i'm going down a rabbit hole right now and i'm totally derailing everything i wrote this outline so let me let me continue on and then we'll segue way back to all that stuff but yes s and l i think of people of our generation that's how you know phil harman he started attending improv classes when he was 27 years old for work around this time he was actually a graphic artist and part of what he did was he would design logos and album covers so i didn't know this about him but he did the album cover for one of steely dance albums and the logo for crosbie stills and ash which super cool right that's cool yeah the comedy group that he joined was called the groundlings they also throughout their not necessarily when he was there but it was a fairly prominent comedy troupe so kathy griffin will feral Lisa kudrow Melissa

McCarthy, Paul Rubin, Maya Rudolph, those were all folks that came out of this comedy troupe. And I don't know much about comedy troops, but they kind of sound like NCAA sports programs where like there are some programs that produce the best of the best, the cream of the crop. It seems like ground leagues is one of them. Second cities is another one that people probably Yeah, that's the one I know is Second City. That's what I would say. Yeah, exactly. In this case, it's worth noting that Phil is part of the reason why the ground links became who they became because he joined the troop a year after it was formed. And then he went on to, he's the reason why all these other folks, you know, like Will Ferrell, Maya Rudolph and all them, have, it has this reputation to attract them. And I just listed up Paul Rubin, who if you don't know is the actor who played Pee Wee Herman in Pee We's Playhouse.

another thing I learned doing this they were in the groundlings together at the exact same time and during this time Phil is the one who created the character of Pee-Wee Herman and he was in the show and he produced a bunch of them yeah he's in it yeah

it all started it all started during this time when they were both in the groundlings he's so interconnected he started off as like an adult show right like it was it wasn't always for kids I think it was like a little like raunchy

year in Inception. And then it was like, oh, kids like this. But I think it was like, because he was in it. Anyway, we can have we can talk. Let's have a second Phil Hartman episode. We just talk about how much we love Phil Hartman. I could go on for like weeks on that. Like I mentioned earlier, Phil joined SNL in its 12th season in 1986. I'm okay. So we need to start having sections where it's like Fars starts his rant here so that people. people know they can fast forward from there because it's just going to be me yelling can't wait for those of you who are younger the SNL actually used to be amazing there seems to be like fits and start so my current my opinion right now is I don't watch us and all I think it kind of sucks and every now and then if something gets if like a skit is actually particularly good it gets enough media play where I'll pay attention to it but outside of that it's not my go-to to watch yeah there seems to be fits and starts. So there are particular cast members in seasons where when they came together,

it created just comedy gold. The biggest of those years in cast members would be at the very beginning of S&L. It wouldn't last very long. If I remember correctly, it was three or four seasons where they caught lightning in a bottle. Those would be the years of John Volusci, Dan Ackwood, and Bill Murray, which are obviously like the, you know, the Mount Everest of comedy, essentially. another one of those peaks i mean i would argue others might not were several of the seasons phil hartman was on the show as well so the cast members during this time were dana carvey

do you remember his george bush impressions oh yeah gold absolute gold chris farley was on at this time they overlap with each other chris rock was on it adam sandler al frankin David Spate and Rob Schneider To us I think Taylor like our generation Like this was our You know Mount Everest of comedy Absolutely absolutely

I definitely watched it all the time I think I stayed up to watch it as well Yeah same Because obviously like how else would I watched it It's not like it was on reprints Yeah Or the internet So yeah yeah I remember

For this work happy art thing A couple of years ago I was out with my former boss At the time Who's a few years older than me like same similar generation and for some reason we started discussing our favorite chris farley skit and one of our younger colleagues who was there with us goes who's chris farley how can you tell me who that was you side to chat me who that was um i'm gonna say it here and then i'm gonna send it to him it's marco sweres oh marca i'm beautiful i'm actually just

yeah i'm glad actually you know what i'm gonna call out another one morgan say she also was there and said, I don't know who he is either. Yeah. Jesus Christ. That's hilarious. And also, I'm looking, while looking at pictures of Phil Hartman, lovingly on Google, do you remember you had to buy the DVDs that was like best of Phil Hartman? Yeah.

And you'd buy the DVD and it would have like 20 skits on it. Yeah, good old days, right? That's nice. The Chris Farley thing, like when I heard that absolutely crushed me. He's actually like my favorite S&L cast member. and I actually kind of assumed he'd be number three on the list of all-time greatest, only behind Belushi and Murray. I found this list that ranked him number 15,

which seems like insane. Like, so Kristen Wigg and Dana Carvey ranked higher, which I love both of them, but they're not better than Chris Farley. No, no, no, no. Do you remember his Chippendale character or like Matt Foley? well i mean so we again we get into this but like the chippendell sketch like really hurt him emotionally he was like i never heard this really really really upset because it's like essentially a body shaving

sketch you know and people are like laughing at him because of his body and afterwards he was just like what the fuck am i doing like i'm just this like fat guy being you know taking advantage of and he felt terrible after that i think that i read that somewhere when i was reading sad things about Chris Farley one day. Well, now I feel bad. He's only like 25 when he died, too. Yeah. No, I mean, it's funny, but that's a stick, but I think he was probably like getting

a little tired of it, even though he was so young. Anyway, we're talking about Chris Farley later. Well, no, we're going to go into a little bit more of a man here. So the author of this, because I just like personally was like, how are you ranking these people? So he ranked Norm MacDonald 139 out of 145 of cast members. Yeah. He ranked Dennis.

Well, fuck this list. This list makes no sense. He ranked Dennis Miller ahead of Kate McKinnon. No, out. Get him out. Okay, I'm going to call him out here. His name is Rob Sheffield of Rolling Stone. And by the way, I also read your ranking of the top 100 country albums. Taylor Swift beat at Folsom Prison by Johnny Cash. Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

Shania Twain was 10 spots ahead of Loretta Lund's coal miner's daughter. his list no no crazy no i remember watching the cole miners daughter movie with my grandma and my mom one of the all-time great albums ever ever yeah not just country just ever yeah i'm okay i'll stop i'll stop but i'm just saying like this guy seems like he's throwing darts at a board when he's deciding who's funny and who's the best album anyways back to the story so again like this era of snell these actors they were basically the best thing on tv and and for comedy in the early 90s essentially I mean, you mentioned Phil Harmon's Clinton impression. That is actually the thing that started the whole how we mock presidents thing.

Nice. Going forward. Yeah. Yeah. So now we're familiar with Darrell, Darry Hannah or Will Farrell or all those guys doing president mockery things. And really it was Phil's impression of Clayne that kind of set this off. Phil would eventually leave S&L to go work at the show that you just mentioned, the sitcom. mentioned news radio which to be honest teller i've never seen it it sounds like people who watch

it you should watch it okay yeah does it hold up yeah absolutely i mean honestly the only part i don't know how many it lasts like one season after phil hartman dies and it is different and so sad and everyone's sad yeah it's like you can feel the sadness in the room so after that happens i think we like maybe watched like half of it and then stop watching it because it's not the same and everyone is just fucking heartbroken. Yeah. Yeah, I read that he actually posthumously won an Emmy for his work on that show. So it must have been, must have been good. Between his time on SNL and news radio, he also worked on The Simpsons where he voiced one of, well, some of the best characters that were on the show, Troy McClure and attorney Lionel Hutz, which were probably

the most well known, but he did others as well. In the middle of all this, he was also starring in movies. Well, you know, sometimes starring, a lot of times doing like, um, supporting character work and stuff like that. Generally speaking, he was basically everywhere. Like, his voice was so, how would you say it? Like, it was, it was so recognizable and noticeable. You'll know what if you hear it, you know, like, it's definitely one of those things that like, if you hear his voice, you'll be like, oh, that's Philharman. Exactly. I hear him everywhere. Yeah. If you're, if you are familiar with his work. His typical characters come across as kind of larger than life. They're a little bit arrogant, a little bit narcissistic. It's the over the topness of how he plays

these characters that make them hilarious. By all accounts from people he worked with on the Simpsons or Lauren Michaels of S&L to the team over news radio, Phil was considered incredibly humble and down to earth and very helpful to his colleagues and just generally a pleasant guy to be around again he got his start in life or not in life like he got a start in comedy his rise in prominence was so late in life that he wasn't one of those guys who was just like raised a celebrity child and like just thought he was the greatest thing in the world he knew what it was like to kind of struggle and come up and so he was very very thoughtful about it he married several times he was married for two years in the 80s then he married another woman for three years

and then the main antagonist of this story phil married in 1987 this woman is called Her name is Bryn Omdahl. Brin was an aspiring actress, and it seems like that in a cocktail of alcohol and narcotics were ultimately the cause of her and Phil's downfall. You mentioned one of your least favorite people. Joe Rogan actually plays a part in this. So as you mentioned, he was in news radio with Phil, and by all accounts, they were friends with each other.

Yeah, they would have been pretty close to the same age, I think, actually. around that time. And also because the Joe Rogan podcast is so prominent and he has so many people that are on the show, there's tons of content that's out there. He's had pretty much anybody who's been on news radio, connected to news radio, connected to Phil Hart. All of these people have done interviews on his show. And Phil Harmon comes up a lot, obviously, because a lot of these, because everybody who worked with him, loved them. And they were all struck by what happened to him. So like I mentioned, Joe and Phil were friends through other time in news radio

and to your earlier point Andy Digges also going to make an appearance here because he was also in news radio as you mentioned and he played a role in this to varying degrees depending on who you believe on what ended up happening to Phil and Brent. From what

Joe himself has said on the podcast so much of the toxic dynamic of Phil and Brin's relationship had to do with her career aspirations and where Phil was was in life. They married in 19, 87 so think about that they made they got married a year after phil gets on s and l so he was not like the guy yet like he's just like he's like just his heads poking out of water basically at this point right but he still has like a really good job he has a he has a good well so we don't

really know that because if you for context the entire cast almost the entire cast the previous season had been fired so he started in 86 the cast of 85 which includes included Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Michael Hall. All of them got fired because nothing was hitting. Weird. I don't remember them. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, Estinal has fits and starts. There's moments where it's comedy gold. There's moments where it just totally sucks. And the year before Phil started, it was in the totally sucks category. Taylor, this is funny. On the first, on the first episode of this season, this was season 12. That's the season that he started. The announcer called them Phil Hoffman. It's like, again like they're just like amateur hour right there's like whatever yeah yeah again like he

wasn't who he eventually became but by the next year so that would be 87 88 his star was on the rise he was three years away from being big enough to where he was on the simpsons which again to younger folks the simpsons back then if not paralleled almost certainly eclipsed s andl in terms of popularity i think so right would you say that's accurate I think so. I think it was more accessible. I mean, like I said before, like, I don't remember how the heck you ever watched anything, like more than once. There definitely weren't like SNL reruns, I don't think, but there were Simpsons reruns. So it was on more. It had the opportunity to be amor often, right? Yeah. And also this, I would, yeah, and also this would have been like the golden air of the Simpsons, like the funniest, the best, like all the most memorable stuff that the Simpsons produced. So getting on there, I would argue, was probably. harder than getting on SNL because everybody wanted to be on The Simpsons and because they have a very finite number of characters they can have on there. His star was skyrocketing

at this point. It was very clear apparently to those around Phil and Bryn that their relationship was toxic. At this point, they had two kids together and those around Phil would notice that Bryn made it a point to embarrass him publicly, like talking down to him just basically making everyone around them feel uncomfortable in their presence. This had gone to such a level. Go ahead, sorry. You can talk about his intro in SNL with her in it. Do you know the part? I don't remember that.

So when they do the thing where they say like Phil Hartman, you know, I'm like it's someone like standing in New York City like smiling, you know, like how they still do that, you know, like someone, whatever. So in his, you'll see that he's at a table with a blonde woman, and that's her. And her earring is swinging like really, really fast because she wouldn't stop staring at the camera. and they had to be like move your head this isn't about you and so she was so mad and she like swung her face backwards and her earring is swinging and he smiles and that's his intro

I'm gonna go back and watch that she had just moved her head because people were like it's not fucking like of the camera and we're introducing you or introducing him oh I'm gonna go back and look at that yeah I never saw that I watched a ton of SNL skis but I never went back to the intro how do you remember that Taylor I feel like I read that in an article that was like a I don't know how I know that i don't know it's in there

i don't know much math yeah that and the fact that you know that tote is german for murder or like the weirdest random things that are connected to my story that i never would have anticipated anyone knowing that you did so i'm full of surprises full surprises

apparently this toxic if you level got to the point where joe rogan would frequently tell phil he should consider the divorce he said that he talked to him but like five or six times about this like hey this isn't good like we can tell something he's going on. Phil didn't want to. And what Joe said on the podcast is the reason he didn't want to do this was because he'd already been divorced twice. And because at this time, he had this squeaky, clean family man quality to him in Hollywood. He thought that a divorce would actually

tarnish his image and inhibit his career essentially. Okay. So we can say that Joe Rogan in this story is a good friend of Phil Hartman. But now Joe Rogan is a good friend. is a lunatic because he gets people to take ivermectin i don't i don't agree with any of this like you sound what are you talking about i had this whole discussion yeah okay so the i'm not going to the whole covid thing i don't really like care about it's like i think that just generally speaking he has this reputation is this like right wing insane person it's like no he was a stand-up comic and like a ufc commentator and then sort of a podcast and just like talks to people like it's kind of crazy all right we can talk about this later we'll we'll say we'll have a whole

why don't we do a joe rogan section i'm willing to say i'm willing to say that joe rogan is a good friend of phil hartman okay i think that's been documented because like everybody who's been on the podcast has also brought this up which again a lot of people have been on the podcast about this actually andy dick was on the podcast once and that was basically enough can we say fuck andy dick yeah well i don't know even about that because like i think that the guy really really has a lot of problems, like, psychologically. That's true. Yeah, it's like, I don't want to, like, shame him for that.

But like I said before, Brin also had substance abuse issues and it tried unsuccessful to get clean. She would bounce from one substance to the next. And at a new, so this is where he comes in. At a news radio Christmas party in 1997, Andy Dick would give Bryn cocaine and cause her to relapse and go back down the. hard drug pass. So I don't know how you categorize. That's what I heard. That's the thing that I heard. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how you categorize this, but like to me, there's like three

categories of substance users, right? There's the drinkers. There's the chill drug users, which is like marijuana mushrooms, like organic drug users. Then there's the powders, right? There's the people who get into the powders and then like, I feel like that is a diversion path that escalates any psychological issues that might be pre-existing do you do you sense that too or yeah I think well I mean obviously there's other like has like heroin and meth and like worse things you could be on I think yeah yeah that's true but but yeah definitely so so that's what partially why I think people also put this because like sure it was cocaine it was one time but you're dealing with someone that has like a history of substance abuse and clearly isn't doing well mentally she's

not the right person to give that to right right and he knew it right like he did not know but he also has his own problem so yeah exactly apparently this caused quite a rift with the castmates because everyone loved phil and everyone could see that brin was unstable and they were pissed that andy did this like they solid why would you give this person that we know that has his issue but again to your point he he has his own issues but there's also this presumption that maybe he

didn't know that she had a history of substance abuse and that's me who's just like trying not be a good time guy you know yeah the fighting in the house got to such an extent that Phil would have his kids go stay elsewhere on occasions I don't know if you've ever been in a relationship like this you I mean I certainly have

but when you're with someone where yeah like when you know exactly where their triggers are how to read their mood and just brace yourself for battle that's kind of like what this sounded like to me in my mind i can see brin in a robe like sulking around the house with the empty bottle of vodka at noon and phil being like kids you got to go to your aunt's house tonight like knowing that the next 12 hours are going to be absolute absolute hell Phil did try to help her for what it's worth it's actually completely in line with what everybody says about his character he got her into rehab a few times it ultimately failed like i said before

and as it became more clear to him that she resented his career, he would try to pull strings in Hollywood to get her roles. She did have a few roles here or there, but this is Phil Hartman. People, like, yeah, you might not remember how huge this guy was back in the day. She would have had to be Nicole Kidman in this era to not be in a shadow. Like, ketchup. Yeah.

So all this culminates on May 28th of 1998. Bryn went out to dinner with a friend and had some drinks. She gets home. Her and Phil have a fight, which seems to be the typical standard of their relationship. We don't know what it was over, but regardless, he goes to bed and she stays up. She apparently still has, like, is doing drugs or drinking or some combination thereof. Around 3 a.m., she goes into their bedroom where he is asleep and shoots him three times. Once in the head, once in the neck and once in the chest, which is like a weird.

like just what were you thinking about going up and down like you're doing crack the dots with his like spine like crazy just like I don't know who knows yeah oh my god yeah that's so sad yeah and look the kids home they were they were I'll get into that oh no

going back to the Andy Dick thing later on they found out that she had a cocktail of Zoloff cocaine alcohol in her system so the cocaine thing stuck after that Christmas party apparently Bryn leaves the house then and goes over to a former boyfriend's house, a guy named Ron Douglas, and tells him what she did.

They go back to the Hartman House together, and Ron discovers that she's telling the truth, it immediately calls the police. Good job, Ron. At this point, yeah, the police show up and the police take the kids out of the house. They, she left them there? Well, Ron was in the house, too. Ron was with Bryn in the house. But she left them there when she went to get Ron.

Yeah, yeah, she did. Oh, what? So the police show up, take Ron out of the house. take the kids out of the house. Bryn locked herself in the bathroom and then shoots herself in the head and kills herself. Ugh. Oh. The Andy Dick thing again, like you're familiar with John Levitts, right?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So John Lovitz was also part of this whole, I mean, all these guys, it's like L.A. comedy, right? It's the L.A. comedy scene. They all know each other. So they were all part of the comedy store scene, the improv. They were all, they were on. Actually, I don't remember if Andy Dick was on Estnell, but John Lovitz definitely was on SNL.

And I think John Lubbitts, after Phil Hartman died, went on news radio as well. Do you recall that at all with that season that you watched half of? Okay. I don't remember. I just remember. So they have him die of like natural causes, but he was like the main character. He was just such a great character on that show. Very Phil Hartman, like a very, like a conceited, like funny guy.

So without him, it just, I mean, the whole was just, I don't know, enormous. like you never they never ever ever would have written him out of that show you know so it was like a plot line they never would have had it's almost like the show wouldn't have been wouldn't doesn't need to exist without that character in it exactly and they all knew it and they were all just so fucking sad yeah yeah yeah like with with the whole john levitt's thing so apparently he he he's one of the guys who really was pissed off about this he was apparently really really close to phil and they would get into physical fights when they would see each other and like they're in the comedy scene in LA together they would see each other all the time they'd be at the comedy store there's

stories about John Lovitch just bashing his head against a bar at the comedy store when they ran into each other like it was it was yeah because that's how responsible that crew of people saw and like like in the in in one of the episodes Roblo was on the Rogan podcast and he was like yeah I had Andy on once definitely don't need to talk to him ever again like we're good like it's like this cause like this like legit riff amongst that entire castmate or the crew like i mentioned so phil would have died in at the age of 49 that was in 1998 he started his rise in fame in 86 so that's 12 years and probably like really it's 10 years where he's kind of living out his dream which is kind of the fact that i found find really sad he did yeah he did the thing that they say can't be done or it's hard to be done

which is finding your calling in life really late in life, by this math, he would have been 37 when he got his big break, that first year of S&L, which that's awesome, right? Yeah. Oh, my God.

That's awesome. As someone who has no big breaks, it is 40. This is our big break, Taylor. This is it. Guys, please tell your friends. Please tell your friends.

Taylor needs this. She's literally crying. Yeah. Yeah, going back to the two kids, so they ended up being taken in by Bryn's sister and her husband. Apparently Bergen, the daughter, she ended up having her own substance abuse issues, but I checked out her insta page, which is fairly active if you want to see it's Bergen, Bergen Hartman. She is now 11 years and four weeks cleaned from opioids and apparently happily married, so good for her. Not much to say, yeah, there's not much to say about Sean the son other than he lives in California.

He's a musician and artist, and I couldn't really find much more about him on there. So hopefully he's living his best life as well. I don't know how you can after your parents do that or your mom does that, but hopefully he gets over that trauma. Yeah. So that is Phil and Bryn. But now we're going to go to a super uplifting story, right, Taylor? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm just sad. Hold on. Let me continue to be sad for a second. I'm looking at. He was so good. It sucks that, like, people, don't recognize who we i mean if you don't recognize if you don't know chris farley's you sure or should don't know who phil harmon is i would assume i would say chris farley was

christ farley yeah seriously morgan am i right in saying that chris farley is probably bigger and more prominent in the public exactly than phil i feel like me if you don't if you know nothing um you could see you could probably be like oh i can picture chris farley you know um maybe you can't picture phil hartman but i feel like once you saw his characters you could picture him and definitely his voice you could absolutely hear his voice it's so i don't know it's so like obvious just as soon as you hear it you like oh it's philharman you know yeah i can hear troy mcclure like some of the best the best um simpson's moments were linal huts the one there was one that there was one that he said he goes he was trying to defend

The Simpsons in some court case. And he goes, yeah, I think I understand. I watched Matlock in a bar last night. The sound wasn't on, but I got the gist of it. Like, he's just, what he says it in that Phil Hartman voice, that's like so self-assured. Oh, it's so good. Yes, he plays such, like this like confident guy, you know?

It's so great. It's so great. Well, that's, I want to all watch some Phil Hartman stuff tonight. Maybe some skits. Yeah, that's sad. I miss him. Also, reminder, somebody ranked. a Taylor Swift album

ahead of Johnny Cash like old Johnny Cash like that makes no sense I don't like Taylor Swift a lot but that makes no sense also what was I going to say a reminder to people

to watch old SNL skits I don't know I think of something else but yeah thanks for sharing oh don't kill your family that was a reminder don't kill your family to Bryn's credit

she only killed her husband and not the rest of the family that yeah that's true i guess i guess awesome well thank you for sharing fires that was terrible but very very sad is your sweater like supposed to be like an only fan's reference but it's only murders oh it's only murders in the building why would i have an only fans reference sweater it's only murders in the building the show in the podcast oh i don't know what that is it's on hulu it's with steve martin speaking of saturday live it's with steve martin and martin short no way okay yeah it's great you should watch it

So, okay. So let's transfer over to our history story. And I, this week, I don't know if it came out this week or if it's because of you talking about Nirvana, but on Netflix, I found a three-part documentary about Woodstock 99. And I was like, this is bananas. This is crazy. I was like, you know, it's, if you don't know, watch that documentary. It's, you know, trying to recreate Woodstock in 99, which did not work because, like, the people who tended just, like, were a bunch of assholes. There was tons of rioting, tons of sexual assault. A lot of crimes, they, like, burnt the whole thing down. And I also was wondering, like, what is the Venn diagram of dudes who are at Woodstock 99 and dudes who are at the instruction on January 6th? And I feel like that might be in June toward a circle. It's like that kind of dude, you know? So it's definitely the same gene type.

Like if you go backwards, like a couple of generations, they definitely shared an uncle, I think. Yeah. I put definitely more than five people were at both places. Yes. I'm sure. I'm sure there were. So it's super interesting. And I was like, can I do what's like 99? And I'm like, Taylor, go back, go back further. So I was like, what are deadly riots and insurrections of history? And it's obviously a ton, but I found one that revolves around a couple. So there is a relationship in this one. And so I want to talk about the Nika riots of 532. So, all the

way back. Way back. Going way back. I listened to one YouTube video called Deadly Moments in History of the Nika riots, a stuff you missed in history class, a Smithsonian article just information about this story. So it involved

a couple, Emperor Justinian and his wife Theodora. So they're like big players in this story. And we're in the Byzantine Empire, which is the Eastern Roman Empire around the year of 500. And they're actually based in Constantinople. I'll talk about that in a second.

Emperor Justinian, the first, was born in Turusium in northern Macedonia. And if you're Dan Carlin, you say Macedonia. So I might go back and forth, but I wanted to do the Dan Carlin one. I'm going to say, I'm like really proud of you for picking something where the names all sound incredibly hard to pronounce. Thank you. Good. Thank you.

I'm going to go Macedonia because that's what Dan Carlin says. but Justine was born in 482.80. He was a like a poor, humble person. He grew up speaking Latin instead of Greek. Greek was a language of the court. So this is like the Eastern Roman Empire is like more Greek. And then the Western one is more Roman, Italian Roman. They speak Latin.

So in the end he does learn to speak Greek in his court. And I would have to like really study the, you know, the way that they do like the lineage for becoming. emperor but even though he's humble and doesn't come from super wealth his uncle is the emperor and his uncle is emperor justin which i like laughed out like for an hour justin like i know there's like justin trudeau is a world leader but like emperor justin i just can't makes me laugh so king king bill or something right i just can't so justin is his uncle and when justin dies justinian becomes his successor so um i don't know if it's like just kind of like next best who's like kind of related to you because I can't imagine that these emperors had zero sons, but it definitely seems to be handing

off to nephews. So it's probably just like who around my circle, my family has like the most potential. I think probably that makes sense. So yeah. So Justin died in 1527 and Justinian became emperor. Justinian married a woman named Cedora. She was born also into humble origins, like actually humble. Her dad was a bearkeeper in the hippodrome. So that's humble. that's not like a humble upbringing that sounds like an awesome upbringing i mean guess awesome but i can't i don't think he like made a lot of money being a bearkeeper but also it is awesome and like maybe you had to hug bears which is cool that's very cool so we'll talk about the hippodrome in a second but you know i'm thinking like imagine you know being a bearkeeper obviously terrible things

happen to the bears and also those bears probably killed a lot of people so there's like a lot going on in like with being a bearkeeper you know what it's not like a zoo i was romanticizing this a lot more than you just laid it out i thought you'd like right they would start treating you like you're one of them and like you could like go forage with them and like you're a family together but i guess there's probably a lot of abuse in that yeah yes yes and you probably get a bonus every time your bear eats someone you know i don't know but it's definitely you're not like it's not a sanctuary for bears it's okay okay thank you okay that's the way i was thinking sanctuary for bears It's not a sanctuary for bears.

Okay. Okay. Awful situation for the animals. I bet the bears are having a bad time. Everyone's having a bad time. Okay. Yes. Yes.

I don't approve. So Theodora became an actress and a dancer, which is like, we talked about this before, like, in like ancient Roman times, like an actress basically was like the same level as a sex worker in society. She may have actually been a sex worker. That's unclear. Some people say that she was and that, you know, before she met Justinine, but they did fall in love. and they got married

and she became kind of a co-ruler with him and she had a big influence in the government so they're married they're in charge there was a little bit of conflict that has to do with religion obviously

it's a Christian society at this point Theodora was part of the sect that believed that Jesus was many things like also a ghost in a person again I don't know and then most people thought he was one thing like one entity so that's like a big deal

and just like another like reason to fight within Christianity. This one guy started so much shit, started so much shit. So yeah. So there are people are kind of mad about that. But it's not all religion and politics and all those things. There's also sports. So this is a sport story mostly. So the biggest sport in in the time is chariot racing. Let's talk about that in a second. So I love a sport riot like i don't want to be in one but i appreciate it when philadelphia tries to burn itself down whether they win or lose you know like that's hilarious people just like going

absolutely nuts like that sounds really like it's fun in as long as someone dies it sounds fun also did i mention that we're in istanbul which was constantinople and you know that song why did they change it i can't say maybe they liked it better that way you know that no who is that It's Constantinople. I have no idea. It's like a, it's from like the 80s or 70s. I'll sure. If it's not Nirvana, I'm not going to recognize anything for the next like month. It's not. It's not. So I do have a list of like what Constantinople was called, but it's gone through a lot of changes. But at this point, it's probably called New Rome at the moment. Oh yes. Okay. So it's called Igo, Spazantium, Augusta, Antonia, New Rome, Constantinople, Constantinople. So now it's Istanbul, but at this point, it was probably called. New Rome. Okay. So we're in Turkey, like modern New Turkey. Yeah, yeah, which would have been back then part of the, like a much larger swath of land, like the Ottoman Empire, which I think was one of the

biggest empires ever. Okay. Right. It goes over there too. Yeah. So that's where we are. In the middle of Istanbul right now, you can visit the hippodrome. So the hippodrome is like such a cool word. I don't even know what to do. Like hippodrome. So the hippodrome is a place where you can watch races and other games that still exists. You can still visit it. It's huge. It can hold like 50 to 100,000 people. It's a big stadium. You could go in and like rent cushions to sit on the on the steps like the Hollywood Bowl. You could like rent a cushion and like sit on the steps and watch the races. It's a really, really long oval, like a really thin long oval. In the middle, there's like a wall with statues that even had, I think still have an Egyptian obelisk in the

middle of it. So like beautiful statues in the middle, all stone is huge stadium. It's obviously not there's no like safety measures, you know, because it's in the year of 500. What you do is you race around the oval in your chariot. And it's very dangerous. So chariot racing is one of the oldest forms of sports. It involves pulling a two-wheeled chariot driven by four horses in this case in the hippodrome at this time. So you're kind of standing on your chariot and you're racing as other people so like you can remember this from like gladiator right didn't they do that gladiator they did this looks like a place you were meant to die in yeah absolutely it's very like spectator yeah yeah like i mean even like the location of where they put the things to draw your eyes like

it's meant to be like you're all in the center of this thing and god help you if you don't do the right thing in that moment and we know that bears work there so like obviously some other stuff happens too involving theirs and like eating people for sure For sure. But chariot racing can be traced back to ancient Egypt where they were used in warfare and hunting. It became a very popular form of entertainment and like a religious ceremony. It was considered a good profession if you could like buy your way out of slavery doing it. If you like, a lot of them were slaves because a lot of people died like right away.

I mean, imagine like you fall off your chariot. You get crushed by horses. But people who didn't die and who continue to do it would be able to eventually buy their way out of slavery because they would start to like make money. That's like the main thing there. In the hippodrome, there is a spot for the emperor to sit, and that is connected to the palace by like an underground tunnel. That's how he gets there. And he's always like there around. So I think this is hilarious for some reason, but in this time, there's four main factions of teams. And their names are the blues, greens, reds and whites. Like that's it. There's a immature color. It's like kind of like the Harry Potter

houses except Lamer. A little bit. Yeah. I guess I'd say more, I was going to be like more death, but there's so much death than Harry Potter. So yes. They weren't just sports. sports teams are also social groups, so you kind of like choose yours and like, you know, be a hooligan. Like, this is my, like, I'm, I'm the greens. Like, you're the blues. Like, fuck the blues. All the things. Like, lots of fighting. Which again, it's fun. Sports fighting is fun as long as women gets hurt. But people are about to get hurt. I feel like it wouldn't be fun in this era because there's no rules or laws and like people. Right. Absolutely. Like now you get prosecuted, but like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, to bring up Philly, like, that's where you get punched in the face.

if like your team beats philly and you're like in philly but for the most part it's fun that's also partially why i have deliberately never been to an eagles game because yeah because it just feels like a really bad place to be a sports fan of the rival team absolutely absolutely in this time the blues are associated with the aristocracy because like the emperor supports them they were more traditional more like wealthy fans and the greens were associated with the lower class intended to be more populist. They were like more progressive, more people who like lived in the suburbs, like more common people liked the greens. So at this time, by the time we're in this story, it's really just the greens and the blues. Those are like the biggest, the biggest two

sides. The greens don't like the queen and the king or the emperor and empress because they like the blues. So it's like a whole thing like Jacinian and Theodora, they support the blues. And so all the regular people who are greens are also like mad at the emperor. So it's like a whole thing. There's also a lot happening with like the emperor is taxing people for wars and taxing people to like build stuff for himself and people are hungry and all like political unrest things actually happening while this is happening but it's going to kind of culminate at this sports event on january 10th 532 there's a mini riot and there's lots of riots like kind of all the time but there's a mini riot between the green the greens and the blues and seven men get sentenced to death so two of the

men yeah so like the emperor is like stop fighting the leaders sentenced to death so Was it all greens? No, it was half blues, half, seven, like, it was mixed blues and greens. And when they do the execution, they do it by hanging, and two of the men survive because the scaffolding breaks. And it's one blue and one green. So now they're kind of together and saying, like, maybe God is on our side, like the side of the people. Because the emperor wanted the blues and greens to get, like the leaders of this little, like mini riot to get killed. But maybe now God's on our side because he saved them.

I mean, that tracks. Yeah. I mean, but I think if I was the emperor, I'd say like, now y'all just have to each fight to the death and whoever wins. This is why I shouldn't be a leader, actually. Yeah. No, they didn't. They let them go. Now tensions are like super high because people are like wondering what the hell's going on because of the way that they, those green and a blue were saved.

Justinian instead of the canceling upcoming chariot races, he continued to have them. And another thing about the hippodrome is, like I said, like, I said, said before like that's how they got in the emperor and empress and like the court would get in through a secret tunnel from the palace and then like be in the hippodrome on their like up box again like think of gladiator like they're up higher than everybody else i have the picture up right now like there's a obvious like i'm assuming that the hippodrome all has like one kind of uh like from the top level down looks the same except there's one section of it that's like this white obelisk looking thing that looks like it's connected to like a court area like a royal court area so i would assume that's where it is. it's yeah like when you're watching a game and you're like they show you someone like up in a box and you're like okay fine that's not relatable yeah but um this is the only space where the common people ever really see the emperor so it's also a time for like political things that they like yell up to him like we want less taxes and like a lot of yelling and like chanting and things that they want the emperor to hear because he doesn't really see the common people ever so that that happens these things as well so on january 15th 532 so 10 days after this first riot there's another race planned for the day and it starts to break out into another riot there's 24 races planned they don't get to that many people start to fight there's some like fighting within the people watching it starts to get bigger and bigger and the fight spills over into the city the crowd starts shouting nika nika which means victory conquer so that's what's called

the nika riots because they are trying to like overthrow the government because now it's an insurrection they're trying to overthrow the emperor so all these people all these tensions from the sports and all these things are rampaging the city they're setting the city on fire constantinople is a burning they're looting shops the palace was besieged so they took over the palace it was about to completely collapse and justinian was considering just leaving at this point and everybody hears just shithouse hammered on wine right oh yeah absolutely you got to be like be yeah no that doesn't water a belly full of wine wouldn't make you want to like be active i think i feel like beer is a good riot beer and whiskey are good rioting drinks yeah i

think beers a good riot drink yeah but really but all they really had was wine so i imagine like everyone's kind of stained with red wine and blood you know like it's a whole thing could you could you imagine like if you were just like drunk on cosmopolitans and like trying to flip over like car like it's what i don't know it just doesn't have the same tone to it no no but i'm sure straight vodka inspired a lot of riots in russia so yeah it's different the city's about to burn down the the ia sophia is burned so how do you know what that is that building never heard of it's um it is a religious building in the middle of constant constantinople assemble it was built before this time It started off as a church.

It's like a beautiful dome with turrets. It kind of looks like, it has a Taj Mahal look with like the dome and the four turrets. It's really beautiful on the inside. I definitely did a paper about it when I was studying our history. So like it's like a beautiful building. It was burned down and they built a new one after this. And it started off as a church. Then it's called Haggita Sophia?

Yeah. Yeah. H-A-I-G-A, but I think it's A-A-Sophia. And so it was built during the Byzantine Empire during this time. kind of refurbished after this fire as a Christian cathedral. It was converted into a mosque after the Ottoman conquest that it talked about in 1453. So much later, it became a mosque. And then the Turkish Republic took it over at 1935 and turned it into a museum.

But in 2020, the Turkish government took it back and now it is a mosque. It's beautiful. I mean, I'm looking at the view of the inside the dome interior on Wikipedia and it's amazing. Yeah. It's really, really beautiful. So now it's a mosque. it just and it's one of those things I think we actually talked about with the Taj Mahal too where Christians are like it was originally ours and they're like no it's ours and people are kind of trying to fight over who gets to worship there I think people never change people never change yeah yeah never never never change so biosophia's burning the city's burning on January 19th so four days after the start of the riot the people choose another nephew of Justin to be emperor his name is Hepatius and they put Hepatius on the throne and they put Hepatius on the throne and they hippodrome and they're like we have a new emperor so things look really really bad for justinian and theodora

and they're thinking of leaving and she says to him this is a quote and it's going to be hard if you my lord wish to save your skin you will have no difficulty in doing so we are rich there is the sea there two are our ships but consider first whether when you reach safety will you regret that you did not choose death and preference as for me i stand by the ancient saying the purple is the noblest winding sheet so she is like you have to stay like you can't we could run away but like let's stay and fight for our empire what's the purple thing mean purple is the color of emperors it was a hard color to come by so like they would wear like purple capes and purple trouts so like caesar wore purple like purple was the color that you would wear when you were in charge yeah she's saying like be a

leader yeah exactly so he says i'm going to stay and i'm going to stand tall on this and And he had his army led by General Belisarius suppress the riots. And so here's some stuff that happened. So like I said before, there was a mini riot that started this. There's tons of riots during this time. We know a lot about this one because it was like heavily documented. But there probably were worse ones that we just like don't know a ton about. But this is the one we know the most about.

So Belisarius takes his, finally the Justinian says go. He takes the troops. They go out and they just start like killing the people who are riot. They end up going to the hippodrome. So the hippodrome had become kind of a sanctuary. People are talking there. The new emperor they made, Hapadius is there.

A lot of families, people are just like kind of hiding and trying to stay in this spot while the rest of the city is like on fire and crazy things are happening. But Belsarius and his troops come in and they kill everybody. It's estimated they kill 30,000 people inside the hippodrome that day. So, Taylor, sorry, I'm confusing some people here. Is this the current emperor? who slaughtered his people or the newly crowned emperor.

Okay. That I have such a disconnect there because it's like I'm going to be a lead. You know what I pictured? I picture this like proud moment of like just like a gladiator movie of like the empress like stealing the nerve of the emperor like you can do this. You are you are the godsend, you know, king or whatever. And then just like just goes and kills everyone. I didn't see it going that way.

Well, that's what happens. And that, you know, later, you know, it, one of the outcomes of this Nika riot is it weakened to the power of the factions, so like the blues and the grains of political factions. And it served as a warning that the emperor would not hesitate to use force to stop a rebellion. Yeah. So before maybe you were like, maybe he won't kill and isn't people to stop us from doing this. It's like, no. If you do this and get out of order, like we will come in with the army and you will get killed.

I still don't think that's leadership. or good leadership. I mean, it's not great. Okay, okay. No, definitely real scary. Yeah, yeah. The Belis and his troops go in and they kill 30,000 people in the hippodrome. So, like, think of the logistics and how gross this is.

In the, I read a Smithsonian article, and they quoted an author, John Julius Norwich, on his history of Byzantium. And he says, quote, within a few minutes, the angry shouts of the great amphitheater had given place to cries and groans of wounded and dying men soon those two grew quiet until the silence spread over the entire arena its sand now sought in with the blood of its victims so like shit ton of people that killed there yeah the outcome is that you know the people kind of were like they stopped writing and and justinian became became powerful again like you said it was a controversial decision you know and it's been criticized by history because a lot of the people were were you know unarmed

unarmed civilians, but it also has been seen as necessary as history to prevent future uprisings. So it's kind of like in a smaller scale, like dropping the nuclear bomb. You know, like, do you do it to like stop further war? Is that justified? I'm trying to, I'm trying to put this in context that I would understand. And because you brought up January 6th already, I'm like, how would I feel if like the National Guard or whoever just like mowed people down as they like entered the capital building then i was like yeah no i really feel i don't know i know no i would feel terrible you know like people are dumb but i you can't do that and but if if they did do that then you definitely have like a whole new feeling about the government where you'd be like legitimately

very very very very scared yeah it's like it's like a two-pronged thing one is like the moral implications just doing that to another human and then there's the like democracy ramifications like what does it actually mean for the country as a whole so yeah generally probably not a good move no but you know it was for justidian he got he was still emperor he was emperor for another 33 years after this so he definitely like held on to his spot he wrote a justidian code which is like something that's a basis for law for a lot of europe still he rebuilt iosophia did a bunch of like stuff for like education um with theodora she died in 1548 he lived longer he died in 15 in 548 she died in 548 he died in 565 at the age of 83 so he you know got to live a

long life as emperor he was succeeded by his nephew just in the second and he had been co-emperor for a little bit and it just kind of continues like you know nephews and sons and eventually you know there's more more tragedy and you know a thousand years later the ottoman empire takes over all kinds of stuff happens in this part of the world would probably come back to it but that's the story of justinian and how he ordered 30,000 people at least to be murdered to maintain power i don't know was that good or bad i don't know was it what's the was the was theodore the one who who kind of convinced him to do it what was what would their life have been like if they weren't together was it always a powder keg so i don't know let's think about very bloody i'm going to see

what the largest rebellion death is in the world. Okay. 20 to 70 million. Whoa. Well, that's like over a long time, not like a day. I don't know. I don't know what this rebellion is. Typing. What is that? Okay. So yeah, that would have been over the course of 16 years

or 14 years. That would have been a long rebellion. Okay. That sounds like a war. That does not sound like a one-day rebellion thing. Yeah. No, this was like it was like five days. So five days. So five days from the first mini rebellion, five days later, or ten days. So five days later is the two men survive the attempted hanging. They have another race on the 15th. That's when the riots start.

And by like the 19th, he has everybody killed. So it happens real fast. It's a rough January for the folks of Constantinople. Yeah. I'm kidding. Interesting. I wonder if those two guys made out alive completely. that's a good question maybe they are had already left and been like like get out of here while the iron is cool yeah yeah i like it um can i make a special request since you're the history buff yeah okay i should probably know more about my ancestry than i actually do so can you do can you like do one on persia like ancient yeah lots of happen in persia yeah i've heard i think we've been there a little bit a little bit

well we were kind of there well ancient persia was kind of like coming down during the um into india for like the tajma hall there's like persian and stuff in there but let's definitely do more so i see yeah it's so much of the same place like yeah that part of the world just macadonia yeah that whole part of the world just seems like there's like a million ancient stories of things going on yeah i'll find some i mean there's so much cool stuff that happened down there so four sure. Do you have any special requests for me, Taylor? No, I haven't thought about it, but I will think about it. This is a new segment called Special Request Corner. Special Request Corner. We also

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