Doomed to Fail - Ep 12 - Part 1: We miss Phil Hartman - here's what happened to him

Episode Date: December 28, 2023

Hello! Happy Holidays! This week, we're casually releasing re-releases at random times! Join us for Episode 12, part 1 - where Farz tells the tragic story of Phil Hartman - who was murdered by his jealous wife (and she was jealous because she wanted to be famous and she wasn't). It's devastating - but a good reminder to check out some of his SNL skits! We 11/10 recommend Bill Clinton at Mcdonald's!  Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

Hi, friends, Taylor from Doom to Fail. It is the week between Christmas and New Year's. So trying to do as little as possible. But I do want to put some re-releases out for you. So we're going to start with episode 12, part one, the sad, sad story of our dear, dear Phil Hartman, gone way, way too soon. If you have any ideas or questions or things that we should do was kind of move into doing more disaster stories, send us an email, JimtofellPod at gmail.com. Thank you. It's a matter of the people of the state of California

versus Orenthal James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Dean to Fail. I'm Fars. Join here. Fucked it up again.

Hi, everyone. What? No, you didn't. That's her name. That is my name, but that's not how. I got to do this. I do the funny. Hi, everyone.

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I'm Fars. I'm joined here by Taylor. Taylor, how are you? I'm good. how are you i'm tired i locked myself out of my house last night and i sat there for two hours and forty degree weather waiting with like no clothes on basically waiting for a locksmith which was awesome my dog looked at me i was gonna she was like staring at me like you realize this is stupid right like she literally used giving me that eye she's real embarrassed i bet yeah i was gonna ask about the weather

so it wasn't raining i don't know that was yeah at the very least it wasn't raining so that's what you had your phone i did have my phone If I didn't have my phone, I don't actually know what I would have. What would you, what do you do? Like, I don't know. Walk to a neighbor's house and hope they don't call the police. I don't know. Yeah.

I guess. Were you wearing shoes? I don't know. Yeah, I was wearing shoes. That's good at least. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you got in and don't do that again. Yeah, I'm going to try my best.

Taylor, did you want to call out the most recent addition to the media channels portfolio of the Doom to Fail network? Oh, yes, absolutely. So I started uploading our audio to YouTube. So it's just like our picture and then the audio, but I know that YouTube is a big platform for listening to podcasts. So I put everything on there. And our episode about Alex Murdoch and him being a murderer has 180 or something views already. I don't know people are listening to the whole thing. It also has two thumbs downs, which I feel like is not necessary. And I can't find out who thumbs downed it. But we did gain two more subscribers. We have four subscribers. And so, yeah, that's a fun way to listen to it. So if you're on YouTube, please subscribe. I'll put the link in the notes, but it's just like Doom to Fail podcast at YouTube.

And I want everyone to subscribe. Just come on there. There's another way to listen to it. That's super fun. And then also we've been hopping on Instagram this week. I posted something about RFK Jr. Making an exploratory committee at Run for President. And I have several crazy people.

wrote comments about how he's a great man and a great liberal and upholds his family's legacy. And then when I go to their profiles, there's one person who's literally their entire profile is trying to get chat GPT to confirm that trans people aren't real. And I'm like, grow up. That's so dumb. What are you doing with your life? I wonder how we strung the theory together that you use chat GPT. I don't know.

I mean, I guess chat GPT is pretty powerful. So how many views did you say we had on the? Don't Murdof, your family? I think like 180. I can actually, I can look. Okay, we're at 183 because you messaged me yesterday saying 120. So wait, at 8 p.m. yesterday, my time, we had 128 and then we went up by 60 as of this morning. Yeah.

In like 14 hours. I know. I think that's because of some keywords. And then also people started watching the other ones. So traders and terrorists, Russian to the apocalypse got some views, not as many, but a couple. so i don't know many people look around so that's exciting we'll eventually we know yeah it's definitely not people we know it will eventually actually just because we record these as videos so we'll eventually just upload the videos as well once

yeah we'll get there i need i need to learn how to edit better as you all already can tell for my regular editing i think you do great you should you try itself to do it in like four minutes so great job so taylor what is a first off who's you want first today is it me yeah it's you okay do you want it to do you want it to do you want it to do you tell us what you're drinking is and I'll segue into the true crime and tell me what my drink is. Yeah. So for me, we're going to drink, we're going to drink more wine because we're going back into ancient times where wine was like water. You just drink wine. I don't know if you drank water. Because we're going to go to the Eastern Roman Empire and Byzantium later. So get your

red wine out. Byzantium. Love it. Over to you. Yeah. Awesome. Okay. I will take things off. My drink today is a drink, y'all probably won't remember because if you're, much younger than Taylor and I. You won't remember much of what I'm going to talk about today. The drink is Slice Soda, which if y'all do remember, it was basically in competition with Spright and Seven Up for the War of the Lemon-flavored sodas, which we all remember, of course, in the 90s.

Of course. The reason I picked Slice is because the pitch man back in the 90s is who I'm going to be discussing. He was really funny, and he calls the cans that they come in metallic containers and promotes it by saying if you buy six of them they come with a plastic carrying container which of course is the plastic thing that holds a six cans together it's silly it's over the top it's a commercial it was legitimately their pitch man but it's also an accurate descriptor of who i'll be discussing today this was probably one of my favorite

humans we lost in a very very tragic way and i think you'll remember this person taylor uh this is another one of those people when I found the new found out the news that they had passed it was a complete kick to the gut I'm going to be discussing today Phil Hartman oh yeah I love being our age I love being our age because like we understand these kids don't get it I'm gonna oh my heart I'm gonna get at my rock and chair with my spittoon and straw hat in a minute but so let's go into the bio of of Phil Hartman and who he was. So Phil was born in Ontario, Canada, which I never knew. I didn't know he was a Canadian.

I thought he was one of ours, which he clearly is not. His early life really isn't all that interesting. He had a ton of siblings. The family moved around a bunch. That's basically the gist of it. Except there's one weird connection he has to Marilyn Manson and the Manson murders. He went to school with Squeaky Fromm. Did you know that?

Oh, no way. Charles Manson. But what I say? no way you said you said Marilyn Manson I've been listening to a lot of rock after the Nirvana episode yeah that's interesting squeaky from is from Canada no no when they moved to California got it yeah so I'm gonna look up a picture of Phil Hartman have him to smile at me during this yeah I watched a lot of Phil Hartman while I was doing this so I remember him Hold on. I'm going to go admonish Luna.

Okay. Oh, I'm looking at, as far as I'm going to tell you where he remembers Phil Hartman from, but news radio, oh, he was so delightful in news radio. Obviously, he was on SNL. Just like a really sweet man. Admonishment complete, I think. Great. I was going to say, Taylor, I mostly remember Phil from Saturday Night Live. I'm wondering how you remember him the most Definitely from SNL I watched it like live in the 90s I also feel like his voice comes up

In like a ton of like animated things And like whenever I hear him I'm like oh it's full heart man I can tell And then also not recently but like 10 years ago We rewatched news radio And he was so good in that And also I'm looking it up and being reminded that Two awful people were in news radio Joe Rogan and Andy Dick

Who are both fucking terrible so that's interesting that they just happened to be in there too but yeah he was so sweet in news radio okay i'm going to disagree with you on the joe rogan bit but i will agree with you on the andy dick bit and both of those are going to be pretty prominent characters in in this story as i go about discussing it we can we can discuss joe rogan offline but he is going to come up i'm surprised no continue ahead oh is his bill clinton impression his bill i watched i watched so many of his clips where he's the one way he goes to a mcdonald okay you know what i'm going down a rabbit hole right now and i'm totally derailing everything i wrote this outline so let me let me continue on and then we'll

segue way back to all that stuff but yes s and l i think of people of our generation that's how you know phil harmon he started attending improv classes when he was 27 years old for work around this time he was actually a graphic artist and part of what he did was he would design logos and album covers so i didn't know this about him but he did the album cover for one of steely dance albums and the logo for crosbie stills and ash which super cool right that's cool yeah the comedy group that he joined was called the groundlings they also throughout there not necessarily when he was there but it was a fairly prominent comedy troupe so kathy griffin will feral Lisa kudrow Melissa McCarthy Paul Rubin, Maya Rudolph, those were all folks that came out of this comedy troupe.

And like, I don't know much about comedy troops, but they kind of sound like NCAA sports programs where like there are some programs that produce the best of the best, the cream of the crop. It seems like ground leagues is one of them. Second cities is another one that people probably are. Yeah, that's the one I know is Second City. That's what I would say. Yeah, exactly.

In this case, it's worth noting that Phil's point. part of the reason why the ground links became who they became because he joined the troop a year after it was formed and then he went on to he's the reason why all these other folks you know like will feral my rudolph and all them have it has this reputation to attract them and i just listed up paul reuben who if you don't know is the actor who played peewee herman in peewee's playhouse another thing i learned doing this they were in the groundlings together at the exact same time. And during this time, Phil is the one who created the character of Pee-Wee, Herman, and he was in the show and he produced a bunch of them. Yeah, he's in it. Yeah, he's in it. Yeah,

but it all started during this time when they were both in the groundlings. He's so interconnected. He started off as like an adult show, right? Like it was it? It wasn't always for kids. I think it was like a little like raunchier. Really? In inception. And then it was like, Oh, kids like this, but I think it was like, because he was in it. Anyway, we can have, we can talk. Let's have a second Phil Hartman episode. We just talk about how much we love Phil Hartman. I could go on for like weeks on that.

Like I mentioned earlier, Phil joined SNL in its 12th season in 1986. I'm, okay, so we need to start having sections where it's like Fars starts his rant here so that people know they can fast forward from there because it's just going to be me perfect yelling can't wait for those of you who are younger the SNL actually used to be amazing there seems to be like fits and start so my current my opinion right now is i don't watch us and all i think it kind of sucks and every now and then if something get if like a skit is actually particularly good it gets enough media play where i i'll pay attention to it but outside of that it's not my go-to to watch yeah there seems to be fits and starts so

there are particular cast members in seasons where when they came together it created just comedy gold the biggest of those years in cast members would be at the very beginning of s andl it wouldn't last very long if i remember correctly it was three or four seasons where they caught lightning in a in a bottle that those would be the years of john volusci dan ackwood and bill murray which are obviously like the you know the mount everest of comedy essentially another one of those peaks i mean i would argue others might not were several of the seasons phil hartman was on the show as well so the cast members during this time were dana carvey do you remember his george bush impressions oh yeah gold absolute gold chris farley was on at this time they overlap with each other chris rock was on it adam sandler al frankin david spate and rob schneider like to us i think taylor like our generation like Like, this was our, you know, Mount Everest of comedy. Absolutely. Absolutely.

I definitely watched it all the time. I think I stayed up to watch it as well. Yeah, same. Because obviously, like, how else would I watch it? It's not like it was on reruns or the internet. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. For this work, happy art thing a couple of years ago, I was out with my former boss at the time, who's a few years older than me, but like same similar generation.

And for some reason, we started discussing our favorite Chris Farley skit. And one of our younger colleagues who was there with us goes, who's Chris Farley? He's like, how? Can you tell me who that was? You side to check me who that was. I'm going to say it here. And then I'm going to send it to him. It's Marco Sourrez.

Oh, Marka. I'm beautiful. Yeah, I'm glad. Actually, you know what I'm going to call on another one? Morgan's saying. She also was there and said, I don't know who he is either. Morgan? Yeah.

Jesus Christ. It's hilarious. And also, I'm looking, while looking at pictures of Phil Hartman, lovingly on Google, do you remember you had to buy the DVDs that was like best of Phil Hartman? Yeah. And you'd buy the DVD and it would have like 20 skits on it. Yeah, good old days, right? That's nice.

The Chris Farley thing, like when I heard that, absolutely crushed me. He's actually like my favorite SNL cast member. And I actually kind of assumed he'd be number three on the list of all-time greatest, only behind Belushi and Murray, I found this list that ranked him number 15, which seems like insane. Like for, so Kristen Wig and Dana Carvey ranked higher, which I love both of them, but they're not better than Chris Farley. No, no, no, no.

Do you remember his Chippendale character or like Matt Foley? Well, I mean, so we, again, we get into this, but like the Chippendale sketch, like, really hurt him emotionally. He was like, I've never heard this. Really, really, really upset. Because it's like, essentially a body shaving sketch, you know,

and people are like laughing at him because of his body. And afterwards he was just like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, I'm just this like fat guy being, you know, taking advantage of and he felt terrible after that. I think that I read that somewhere when I was reading sad things about

Chris Farley one day. Well, now I feel bad. He's only like 25 when he died too. Yeah. No, I mean, it's funny, but that's a stick,

but I think he was probably like getting a little tired of it. even though he was so young anyway we'll talk about chris farley later well no we're going to go into a little bit more of a man here so the the author of this because i just like personally was like how are you ranking these people so he ranked norm macdonald 139 out of 145 of cast members yeah he ranked dennis well fuck this list this list makes no sense he ranked dennis miller ahead of kate mckenon no out get him out okay i'm going to call him out here his name is his name is rob sheffield of Rolling Stone. And by the way, I also read your ranking of the top 100 country albums. Taylor Swift beat at Folsom Prison by Johnny Cash.

Yeah, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Shania Twain was 10 spots ahead of Loretta Lynn's Coal Miner's Daughter on his list. No, no. Crazy. No. I remember watching the Coal Miner's Daughter movie with my grandma and my mom. One of the all-time great albums ever, ever, ever, ever made. not just country just ever yeah i'll stop i'll stop but i'm just saying like this guy seems like he's throwing darts on a board when he's deciding who's funny and he's the best album anyways back

to the story so again like this era of snell these actors they were basically the best thing on tv and and for comedy in the early 90s essentially i mean you mentioned phil harman's clinton impression that that is actually the thing that started the whole how we mock presidents thing nice going forward yeah yeah so now we're familiar with darrell daryl hannah or will feral or all those guys doing president mockery things and really it was phil's impression of clean that kind of set this off phil would eventually leave s&l to go work at the show that you just mentioned the sitcom you mentioned news radio which to be honest tell i've never seen it it sounds like people who watch it you should watch it okay yeah does it hold up yeah absolutely

I mean, honestly, the only part, I don't know how many, it lasts like one season after Phil Hartman dies. And it is different and so sad. And everyone's sad. Yeah. It's like you can feel the sadness in the room. So after that happens, I think we like maybe watched like half of it and then stop watching it because it's not the same. And everyone is just fucking heartbroken. Yeah.

Yeah. I read that he actually posthumously won an Emmy for his work on that show. So it must have been, must have been good. between his time on SNL and news radio he also worked on The Simpsons where he voiced one of well some of the best characters that were on the show Troy McClure and attorney Lionel huts which were probably the most well known but he did others as well in the middle of all this he was also starring in movies well you know sometimes starring a lot of times doing like supporting character work and stuff like that generally speaking he was basically everywhere like his voice was so how would you say it like it was it was so recognizable and noticeable you'll know what if you hear it you know like it's definitely one of those things that like if you hear his voice you'll be like oh that's phil herman exactly hear him everywhere exactly yeah if you're if you're if you're familiar with his work his typical characters come across as kind of larger than life they're a little bit arrogant they're a little bit

narcissistic it's the over the topness of how he plays these characters that make them hilarious By all accounts from people he worked with on The Simpsons or Lauren Michaels of S&L to the team over news radio, Phil was considered incredibly humble and down to earth and very helpful to his colleagues and just generally a pleasant guy to be around. Again, he got his start in life, or not in life, like, he got his start in comedy. His rise in prominence was so late in life that he wasn't one of those guys who was just like raised a celebrity child and like just thought he was the greatest thing in the world. He knew what it was like to kind of struggle and come up. and so he was very, very thoughtful about it. He married several times. He was married for two years in the 80s.

Then he married another woman for three years. And then the main antagonist of this story, Phil married in 1987. This woman is called, her name is Bryn Omdahl. Bryn was an aspiring actress. And it seems like that in a cocktail of alcohol and narcotics were ultimately the cause of her and Phil's downfall. You mentioned one of your least favorite people. Joe Rogan actually plays a part in this.

So as you mentioned, he was in news radio with Phil. And by all accounts, they were friends with each other. Yeah, they would have been pretty close to the same age, I think, actually, around that time. And also because the Joe Rogan podcast is so prominent and he has so many people that are on the show, there's tons of content that's out there. He's had pretty much anybody who's been on news radio, connected to news radio, connected to Phil Hart. all of these people have done interviews on his show and Phil Harmon comes up a lot obviously because a lot of these because everybody who worked with them loved them and they were all struck by what happened to him so like I mentioned Joe and Phil were friends throughout their time in news radio and to your earlier point Andy Dick is also going to make an appearance here because he was also in news radio as you mentioned and he played a role in this to varying degrees depending on who you believe on what ended up happening. to Phil and Brent. From what Joe himself has said on the podcast, so much of the toxic dynamic of Phil and Brin's relationship had to do with her career aspirations and where Phil was in life.

They married in 1987. So think about that, they got married a year after Phil gets on S&L. So he was not like the guy yet. Like he's just like, he's like just his head's poking out of water basically at this point. Right, but he still has like a really good job. He has a good. Well, So we don't really know that because if you, for context, the entire cast, almost the entire cast of the previous season had been fired. So he started in 86. The cast of 85, which included Robert Downey Jr. and Anthony Michael Hall, all of them got fired because nothing was hitting. Weird, I don't remember them. Yeah.

Yeah. Like I said, Estinnell has fits and starts. So there's moments where it's comedy gold. There's moments where it just totally sucks. And the year before Phil started, it was in the totally sucks category. Taylor, this is funny, on the first, on the first episode of this season, this was season 12, that's the season that he started, the announcer called him Phil Hoffman. It's like, again, like, they're just like amateur hour, right?

It's like whatever, yeah. Yeah, again, like he wasn't who he eventually became, but by the next year, so that would have been 87, 88, his star was on the rise. He was three years away from being big enough to where he was on the Simpsons, which again, to younger folks. The Simpsons back then, if not parallel, almost certainly eclipsed S&L in terms of popularity. I think so, right? Would you say that's accurate? I think so. I think it was more accessible. I mean, like I said before, like, I don't remember how the heck you ever watched anything, like more than once. There definitely weren't like SNL reruns, I don't think, but there were

Simpsons reruns. So it was on more. It had the opportunity to be amor often, right? Yeah. And also And also this would, yeah, and also this would have been like the golden air of the Simpsons, like the funniest, the best, like all the most memorable stuff that the Simpsons. So getting on there, I would argue, was probably harder than getting on SNL because everybody wanted to be on The Simpsons. And because they have a very finite number of characters they can have on there. His star was skyrocketing at this point. It was very clear, apparently, to those around Phil and Bryn that their relationship was toxic. At this point, they had two kids together, and those around Phil would notice that Bryn made it a point to embarrass him publicly, like talking down to him, just basically making everyone around them feel uncomfortable in their presence. This has gone to such a level.

Go ahead. Sorry. You can talk about his intro in SNL with her in it. Do you know the part? I don't remember that. So when they do the thing where they're like, Phil Hartman, you know, I'm like, it's someone like standing in New York City, like, smiling. You know, like how they still do that. know, like someone, whatever.

So in his, you'll see that he's at a table with a blonde woman, and that's her. And her earring is swinging, like, really, really fast because she wouldn't stop staring at the camera. And they had to be like, move your head. This isn't it about you. And so she was so mad. And she, like, swung her face backwards and her earring is swinging. And he smiles. And that's his intro.

I'm going to go back and watch that. She had just moved her head because people were like, it's that fucking look at the camera. We're not introducing you or introducing him. Oh, I'm going to go back to that. and look at that yeah i never saw that i watched a ton of s and else because i never went back to the intro how do you remember that taylor i feel like i read that in an article that was like that was like a i don't know how i know that i don't know it's in there i don't know much math yeah that and the fact that you know that tote is german for murder or like the weirdest random things that are connected

to my story that i never would have anticipated anyone knowing that you did so i'm full of surprises full surprises apparently this toxic if you level got to the point where joe rogan would frequently tell phil he should consider the divorce he said that he talked to him but like five or six times about this like hey this isn't good like we can tell something's going on phil didn't want to and what he what joe said on the podcast is the reason he didn't want to do this was because he'd already been divorced twice and because at this time he had this squeaky clean family family man quality to him in Hollywood he thought that a divorce would actually tarnish his image and in inhibit his career essentially okay so we can say that Joe Rogan in this story is a good friend of Phil Hartman but now Joe Rogan is a lunatic because he gets people to take Ivermectin I don't I don't agree with any of this like you sell what are you talking about I had this whole discussion yeah okay so the I'm not going to the whole COVID thing I don't really like care about it's like I think that just generally speaking he has this reputation is this like

right wing insane person it's like no he was a standup comic and like a UFC commentator and then sort of a podcast and just like talks to people like I know it's kind of crazy all right we can talk about this later we'll we'll we'll have a whole why don't we do a but I'm willing to say I'm willing to say that Joe Rogan is a good friend of Phil Hartman okay I think that's been documented because like everybody who's been on the podcast has also brought this up, which, again, a lot of people have been on the podcast about this. Actually, Andy Dick was on the podcast once, and that was basically enough. Can we say, fucking Andy Dick? Yeah. Well, I don't know even about that because, like,

I think that the guy really, really has a lot of problems, like, psychologically. That's true. Yeah. It's like, I don't want to, like, shame him for that. But like I said before, Brent also had substance abuse issues and it tried unsuccessful to get clean. She would bounce from one substance to the next and at a new so this is where he comes in at a news radio christmas party in 1997 indy dick would give ren cocaine and cause her to relapse and go back down the hard drug pass so i don't know how you categorize that's what i heard that's the thing that i heard yeah yeah i don't know how you categorize this but like to me there's like three categories of substance users right there's the drinkers there's the drinkers there's the

chill drug users which is like marijuana mushrooms like organic drug users then there's the powders right there's the people who get into the powders and then like i feel like that is a diversion path that escalates any psychological issues that might be preexisting do you do you sense that too or yeah i think well i mean obviously there's other like has like heroin and meth and like worse things you could be on i think yeah yeah that's true but but but yeah definitely So that's partially why I think people also put this, because like, sure, it was cocaine. It was one time. But you're dealing with someone that has like a history of substance abuse and clearly isn't doing well mentally. She's not the right person to give that to. Right. Right. And he knew it. Right. Like he did not know. But he also has his own problems. So. Yeah, exactly. Apparently this caused quite a rift with. the castmates because everyone loved Phil and everyone could see that Bryn was unstable and they were pissed that Andy did this like they solid the why would you give this person that we know that has his

issue but again to your point he he has his own issues but there's also this presumption that maybe he didn't know that she had a history of substance abuse and that's me who's just like trying to be a good time guy you know yeah the fighting in the house got to such an extent that Phil would have his kids go stay elsewhere on occasions I don't know if you've ever been in a relationship like this you i mean i certainly have but when you're with someone where yeah like when you know exactly what their triggers are how to read their mood and you just brace yourself for battle that's kind of like what this sounded like to me in my mind i can see brin in a robe like sulking around the house with the empty bottle of vodka at noon and phil being like kids you got to go to your aunt's house

tonight like knowing that the next 12 hours are going to be absolute absolute hell Phil did try to help her for what it's worth. It's actually completely in line with what everybody says about his character. He got her into rehab a few times. It ultimately failed, like I said before. And as it became more clear to him that she resented his career, he would try to pull strings in Hollywood to get her roles. She did have a few roles here or there.

But this is Phil Hartman. People, like, again, you might not remember how huge this guy was. back in the day. She would have had to be Nicole Kidman in this era to not be in a shadow. You can't like ketchup. Yeah. So all this culminates on May 28th of 1998. Brin went out to dinner with a friend and had some drinks. She gets home. Her and Phil have a fight, which seems to be the typical standard of their relationship. We don't know what it was over, but regardless, he goes to bed and she stays up. She apparently still has, like, is doing drugs or drinking or some combination thereof around 3 a.m.

She goes into their bedroom where he is asleep and shoots him three times. Once in the head, once in the neck and once in the chest, which is like a weird, like just what were you thinking about? Jesus.

Going up and down, like you're doing track the dots with his like spine. Like crazy, just like, I don't know, who knows? Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. That's so sad. Yeah. For the kids home?

They were. They were all getting into that. Oh, no. Going back to the Andy Dick thing, later on they found out that she had a cocktail of Zoloft cocaine alcohol in her system. So the cocaine thing stuck after that Christmas party, apparently. Bryn leaves the house then and goes over to a former boyfriend's house, a guy named Ron Douglas, and tells him what she did. They go back to the Hartman house together, and Ron discovers that she's telling the truth. It immediately calls the police.

Good job, Ron. At this point, yeah, the police show up and the police take the kids out of the house. they She left them there Well Ron was in the house too Ron was with Brin in the house But she left them there When she went to get Ron

Yeah Yeah she did So the police show up Take Ron out of the house Take the kids out of the house Brin locked herself in the bathroom And then shoots herself in the head And kills herself

Ugh Oh The Andy Dick thing again Like you're from with John Lovitz Right Mm-hmm Yeah So John Lovis was also part of this whole

I mean, all these guys, it's like LA comedy, right? It's the L.A. comedy scene. They all know each other. So they were all part of the comedy store scene, the improv. They were on, actually, I don't remember if Andy Dick was on SNL, but John Lovitz definitely was on SNL. And I think John Lovitz, after Phil Hartman died, went on news radio as well.

Do you recall that at all with that season that you watched half of? Okay. I don't remember. I just remember. So they have him die of like natural causes. But he was, like, the main character. He was just such a great character on that show. Very Phil Harmon, like a very, like a conceited, like, funny guy. So without him, it just, I mean, the whole was just like enormous. Like, you never, they never, ever, ever would have written him out of that show, you know?

So it was like a plot line that they never would have had. It's almost like the show wouldn't have been, doesn't need to exist without that character in it. Exactly. And they all knew it. and they were all just so fucking sad. Yeah. Yeah. Like with the whole John Lovett's thing.

So apparently he, he's one of the guys who really was pissed off about this. He was apparently really, really close to Phil. And they would get into physical fights when they would see each other. And like they're in the comedy scene in L.A. together. They would see each other all the time. They'd be at the comedy store.

There's stories about John Lovitz just bashing his head against a bar at the comedy store when they ran into each other. Like it was, it was. Andy Dick? Yeah. Oh. Because that's how response. that crew of people saw and like like in the in in in one of the episodes

Roblo was on the Rogan podcast and he was like yeah I had Andy on once definitely don't need to talk to him ever again like we're good like it's like this cause like this like legit riff amongst that entire castmate or the crew like I mentioned so Phil would have died in at the age of 49 that was in 1998 he started his rise in in fame in 86 so that's 12 years and probably like really it was 10 years where he's kind of living out his dream, which is kind of the fact that I find really sad. He did. Yeah. He did the thing that they say can't be done or is hard to be done, which is finding your calling in life really late in life. By this math, he would have been 37 when he got

his big break, that first year of S&L, which that's awesome, right? Yeah. Oh my God. That's awesome. As someone who has no big breaks, it is 40. This is our big break, Taylor. This is it. Guys, please tell your friends. Please tell your friends. Taylor needs this. She's a little crying. Yeah, going back to the two kids, so they ended up being taken in by Bryn's sister and her husband.

Apparently Bergen, the daughter, she ended up having her own substance abuse issues, but I checked out her Instapage, which is fairly active if you want to see, it's Bergen-Hartman. She is now 11 years and four weeks clean from opioids and apparently happily married so good for her not much to say yeah there's not much to say about Sean the son other than he lives in California he's a musician and artist and I couldn't really

find much more about him on there so hopefully he's living his best life as well I don't know how you can after your parents do that or your mom does that but hopefully he gets over that trauma yeah so that is Phil and Bryn but now we're going to go to a super uplifting story right Taylor oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm just just saying hold on me continue to be sad for a second i'm looking at he was so good like it sucks that like people don't recognize