Doomed to Fail - Ep 129 - Mother of Sparrows: The Vengeance of Saint Olga of Kiev

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

In this real-life Game of Thrones episode, Taylor talks about Princess Olga of Kiev. A widow, a mother, ruler of the Kievan Rus, and eventually a Saint. But the path... it was not laid with good deeds.... After the murder of her husband Igor, Olga goes on a rampage of revenge and devastation against the Drevlians.There are Vikings, there is pillaging, there is town burning! It's fun, and even if it isn't true we've decided to believe it.  Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's a matter of the people of the state of California versus Hortonthall James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. And we are back, Taylor. Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. Halfway over. Weeks halfway done.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I am on my way to Chicago if it's Wednesday. We went to Chicago for a few days. Are you going to the convention? No, I'm going to be there before. Just like for a meeting because other people will be there for. the convention. I'll be there right before. But yesterday we were at a pool party and my husband was like, yeah, I travel for work. I just
Starting point is 00:00:36 like don't really do anything cool. And I was like, I literally already know where I'm going to eat like the second I landed Chicago. I mean, yeah, if it's Chicago, I mean, yeah. I'm going to get Italian beef and walk to the water and eat it next to the water. I can do that for my hotel. So beautiful. I love Chicago. When the weather is good, Chicago's is incredible. Yeah, which is like
Starting point is 00:00:54 three days of the year, but yes. Right. I think you'll be there for that, though. I think so too. Well, I have it on my thing. I think it'll be a little hot. It'll be a little humid for my taste. But I live there for the first 13 years in my life. I can survive. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Sweet. Wait, you got to do our intro. Welcome to Jepterl, everyone. We are a podcast that brings you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures twice a week. Every week. I'm Taylor joined by Fars. I'm Fars joined by Taylor. Very cool. Today is Taylor's turn. She's going to. tell us a riveting story. I am. I'm kind of going to follow up on talking about saints because you did Mother Teresa last week
Starting point is 00:01:36 and I was already researching how you become a saint because I'm going to do a saint today. Perfect. And I know that one of your things last week was how much fun the Catholic church lore is. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And, ma'am, we watched the first Omen last night. Is it the new movie? Is it good? I saw the trailer. I loved it I thought it was great I was like this is scary shit
Starting point is 00:02:02 I was like scared a couple of times and it's really fun myth building for like it's like it's before the first Omen in 70s can I tell you why I didn't watch it was because I watched the trailer
Starting point is 00:02:14 and I was like okay another creepy scary child movie like it's like how many of those are there but like is it it's worth no because the child isn't even feel that old or doesn't feel that young but the woman who is like the main
Starting point is 00:02:26 character, like the nun. What is her name? Her name is, whoa, her name's dope. Her name is Nell Tiger Free. That's a cool ass name. She is in Servant, which is a show that I devoted a lot of time to and I'm mad about it. I think I talked about that. It's on Apple TV. But she plays in both roles, she plays like a really ultra-religious, really, really, like, creepy woman that you can't figure out and she's so good at it. Sweet. Okay. Well, then I'll go on the watch list. Yeah. So that was fun. I was like, oh, this is fun. Because then the, uh, you know, a lot of the priests were like in cahoots with the devil and all the things and, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:10 That's how it goes. Joy. It's joy. Um, so I also was thinking last Christmas to maybe do some things about saints. Like who was St. Nicholas and blah, blah, blah. So I might bring that back just some like interesting stories from the past. But one thing I did see in my, research for this is there is a young man who passed away recently. His name was Carlo Akitus. I know those. Do you know what talking about? Yep. So he was born on May 3rd, 1991, and he was very religious, made a lot of Catholic websites, and he died of leukemia, which is super sad, but apparently he's performing miracles. Yep. That's how you become a saint. Yeah. So actually, I have a step by step of how you become a saint. You touched in it a little bit, but I have a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It's called canonization. Did you say that? That's like the process. Yeah. Well, I said beatification, which is like the starting point. Yeah, exactly. That's in the middle. So there's like, you have to be a servant of God when you're alive.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Then after you die, there's a posteo, which is a formal report that is to be completed by like bishops and other people. And then sent to the pope. And if the pope likes it, he will write a degree of heroism. virtue, that will kind of get you on the list, on the short list. Then you have to do the miracles. So you're dead this whole time. So the first miracle makes you a blessed person. So you can say like the blessed, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 That's the beatification. And then the second miracle is the canonization. Then there's a ceremony. And it just like, it sucks that you're dead when this happens. Because I sound like. Yeah, but if you're truly religious, then your soul is aware of what's worth. Right, right, right, right. Sure, sure. I guess you're watching it from heaven.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yeah. You can be beatified if you're a martyr, but not canonized. Like, you can skip some steps if you're killed for your religion. Also, the Pope can wave some things if he feels like it. And it can take, like, centuries, you know. Yeah. Kind of like much later. The first person to be canonized by the Pope through the formal process was St. Ulrich of Augsburg.
Starting point is 00:05:21 He was canonized by Pope John the 15th in the year 993. So I don't know, I feel like there's a bunch of more that we can talk about that like have fun stories. But I'm going to talk about another saint, a new saint that I just heard of. Not new. New to me. And she's also a princess and a Viking warrior and pretty awesome. I was going to say St. Nick.
Starting point is 00:05:44 No, I will do that eventually, I think, because I don't really know what his deal was. My friend at work, Ishik, he mentioned this. one of these stories there's like five amazing stories out of this person he mentioned one in passing and i was like holy shit like i definitely want to talk about that so um thank you ijc for bringing that up and i'm sure you do i know you don't know who says you're not going to guess but i'm going to talk about princess olga of kiev so this is also this is like i read a book about the ruse which is like i'll tell you about the people that she kind of came from and i watched a couple of youtube videos that i'll put in the notes but important to note
Starting point is 00:06:21 Everything that is old and also everything that has to do as saints is a smidge of, like, potentially not true. Yeah, sure. You know, so this is a, even if it isn't true, let's just believe it because it's fun. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I mentioned with the mother Teresa one where the lady was like, my cancer was sure. The husband was like, you went through chemo for like eight years. Whatever. So I'm not hurting anyone.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Just believe it. Like, it's fun. So, actually, Olga's going to hurt a shit ton of people. So, well, but not in the name of God, we'll get to it. So Olga was born some time between 890 and 925, which is a huge range. So sometime in that time, she was born. She was a Viking coming from the north. And she ruled over the Kivian Rus people.
Starting point is 00:07:08 So the Rus people aren't necessarily Russians today. They're like people from Scandinavia, Western Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Finland. Like that's sort of where, you know, where they're. They ended up, but they were called the Rus people, and the capital was Kiev, which is the one that is in Ukraine right now. They ruled there from 862 to 1242, so she's kind of in, in like the beginning of it. This is so Game of Thrones. It's like wild. It makes me really sad that they didn't have film and camera.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I know. Because I just pulled up her husband. I was like, he looks like he was drawing. by Gary Larson. It was like, I bet he looked cool shit. I know. She has a lot better,
Starting point is 00:07:55 like, iconography than he does because she's more famous. But like some of them of her, like she looks real mean and it's very fun. She looks intense.
Starting point is 00:08:02 She's an intense with her eyes. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, my favorite thing is when like in history when like Dan, Carlin or other people that I've like listened to to talk about like the Vikings,
Starting point is 00:08:11 the people that came down and how like big they were, you know? And just like how scary it would be to have like a bunch of, like you'd never, you didn't know Vikings existed and when did they show up. You're like, because they're a foot taller. than us, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:22 They'll be freaky. So the dynasty when Olga is alive is a Rurik dynasty from the Varanjian ruse. So that's like the people. And King Rurik was the king first. He is, after Rurik dies, a man named Oleg becomes king. And that's because Rurik's son, Igor, is too young. So Igor is not the ruler just. yet Oleg is kind of in the middle.
Starting point is 00:08:53 So Oleg, the myth behind around him, when he was the ruler of the Kivian Rus, which is this group of people, is that he was told by a prophecy that his horse would kill him. So he was like, okay, well, I'm sitting get rid of this horse. So he took the horse,
Starting point is 00:09:09 sent it away to like, literally to a farm. He didn't kill it. He sent it away. And then years later, someone said, hey, Oleg, that horse that was going to kill you, it died. And he was like, few, I knew that guy wasn't going to kill me, but I want to see his body. So it goes to the farm where there's a dead horse on the ground and he kicks the dead horse in the head to be like, you didn't get me. And the snake jumps out from underneath the
Starting point is 00:09:31 head and bites him and he dies. Just leave it alone. He really poked, poked the dead horse with that one. Yeah. Ah, hey, that's good. So Oleg dies. No, it's beating a dead horse. I know. I said poked because he's like, but you're right. Beating is also right. But also thinking of poking the bear, putting them together. Got it. Either way, don't do it. So Rourik's son then becomes the leader.
Starting point is 00:09:58 His name is Igor, and he is Olga's husband. They get married when maybe she's about 15, but we don't really know the time. So she is now the princess of the Kyivian Rus people. So in Igor is, you know, a pillager.
Starting point is 00:10:16 He wants to go around and pillage, get taxes, get more. stuff and in 945 the year, Igor is like, I'm going to go out and get some more taxes from this neighboring tribe called the Dravillians. So the Dravillians, D-R-E-V-L-I-A-N-S, which is an awesome name. He gets there and they're like, okay, here's some tax money. He leaves and he decides that that's not enough. He wants more. So Igor goes back to the Dravillians. He's like, I need more taxes and they say no and so they take two trees pull them down to the ground like stick them to the ground tie one leg to each tree and then let the trees go and his body gets ripped apart by the
Starting point is 00:10:59 trees pretty metal pretty metal so igor is dead and now olga is in charge of their you know i don't know it's not like an empire it's sort of just like their land and their like kingdom um and so she their son spatislav is too young he's only three so she's like the first um um woman to um to rule this over this people over this area and she is pissed obviously because her husband was just murdered you know right so she's going to get some real real bloody revenge so the prince of the travillians who killed her husband was named prince mall m al and he was like well why don't you marry me now that you're single, you know, that I, like, ripped her husband in half. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:51 So she goes, okay, like, come to Kiev, come to, you know, come meet some people here. And so she says, quote, I don't know, loosely a quote, your proposal is pleasing to me. Indeed, my husband cannot rise again from the dead by desire to honor you tomorrow in the presence of my people. Return now to your boat when they get to Kiev. and remain there with an aspect of arrogance. I shall send for you on the morrow, and you shall say,
Starting point is 00:12:19 we will not ride on horses nor go on foot, carry us in our boat, and you shall be carried in your boat. So they think they're going to get this grand entrance into the city. So like outside the walls and the boats, and then they go like through a moat into the city and they like pick up the boat on, like the people of Kev pick up the boat on like logs,
Starting point is 00:12:42 you know, and carry it like a chariot. you know what I mean? Right. Like how you imagine like an Egyptian barrow being carried through the streets. So they carry it like that. And then, you know, they say carries on a boat. So like they think that they're getting this like really great thing.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And as soon as they get into the city, they had spent all night digging a ditch. They drop the boat into the ditch and start filling it and bury everybody alive. And they say that she looked over the pit and inquired whether they found the honor to their taste. Like, are you not honored? And she buried them all alive. she's not a nice person no so the travillians back home where they came from didn't know this had happened yet and olga sends a second note to them and that note says hey send more guys send your best men we're like super happy here like we really want you to send like your best of the best like join the celebration but they don't know that the first envoy was all killed right so she's like send another group group of people send me your best and they get there and they're like oh we're super happy to be here super excited she goes awesome she's first why don't you guys take a bath like relax go to the bath house it'll be great
Starting point is 00:13:54 so she yeah she locks them in the bath house and burns it to the ground and they all burn alive that was in um that was uh brave heart too yes oh that's terrible yeah or when they're all like hanging yeah that happens in a lot of things that's so bad um so the second envoy of people she burns alive then she sends him a note and she's like okay okay okay okay okay okay like everything's fine but i really just feel like i haven't warned my husband enough like i haven't like really gotten it off my chest yet so can you meet me by the trees where you killed him bring all of your bring up all your army and bring a bunch of booze like bring up a ton of mead you know sweet honey wine bring a ton of it we're just going to have like a boozy funeral and we're going to like you know think about my husband that you killed and then then i'll be over it you know so she they all come they all get wasted and of course when everybody is drunk she has her army attack they kill 5,000 men and anybody who's like burning away they kill them on their way out they kill like the entire army and guess what this event is called in history the drunk fight the red funeral
Starting point is 00:15:10 no yeah it's not fun it is game of thrones I know dude even like I'm reading about the I'm seeing this thing about the Rorix about like how founded by varangian for instance it's very close to
Starting point is 00:15:27 bring your varangian hordes isn't it in a movie well I don't know about that but it sounds really close to Valerian yes exactly let's side bring your varangian Ords. Maybe that's not true. Bigger. I don't know, whatever. But infertile hordes, who knows? But yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so Game of Thrones. Like, all these words could like totally be in it. So then this is like, this is her kind of last thing. They're like, okay, now we're at war, you know, officially. I'll stop pretending to like be nice to you guys. And then she goes to their main, the Dravelians, main home, which is in choristan. Now it's called choristan. Then it was called Ichoristan. It's in
Starting point is 00:16:16 Ukraine. And I, um, Wikipediaed it and looks beautiful. It was like very snowy and lovely. Um, so she goes there and she's kind of, on the way there. She's kind of taking over towns on the way and they're like paying tribute to her. But she goes to their capital town and she's like, why do you persist in holding out? All of your cities have surrendered to me and submit to tribute so that the inhabitants now cultivate their fields and their lands are in peace. you had rather die of hunger without submitting to tribute. She's like, stop making me put the siege on your capital and just like, let me win, you know? It sounds a lot like a spouse being like, why did you make me hit you?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah. It's not good. It's very violent. Yes. And so then they're like, are you sure? Because you've done a lot of avenging. And like, we don't know if we believe you. And she was like, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:17:06 This is totally, I'm totally satisfied by the 5,000 men that I can. killed at the red funeral. No big deal. I'm totally fine and I'm like super happy. I just want you to pay me a tribute, you know, give me some taxes and like I will like, you know, let you go. She's lying through her teeth. She's lying. So she says, here's what I would love to have. I would love to have six birds from each house, three pigeons and three sparrows. Everybody had birds. I don't know why. To eat them for the eggs, whatever. Everyone had birds in their house. She's like, all I want is just like birds from every every household. And they're like, okay, we'll totally do that. her a bird, like those six birds from every household. And then she had her soldiers tie cloth
Starting point is 00:17:47 with sulfur on the end to every single fucking bird. And then when the night fell, she lit it on fire and all the birds went home. So the whole entire city burned down like immediately. It's not spending way too much time thinking about this. She did like, my, my zoom did thumbs up. She sent flaming birds to every single household in the city. A book called The Primary Chronicle says there was not a house that was not consumed and it was impossible to extinguish the flames because all the houses caught fire at once because every single bird went home. So every single house got fire at the same time. Everybody had tried to leave was either killed or sent into slavery and she got the nickname Mother of Sparrow's. Jeez, she's so, why is she a saint?
Starting point is 00:18:36 I will tell you, but that is a great question because there is a lot of blood on her. hands. Yeah, she's not a nice woman. So she got her revenge. I think she felt pretty good after this. And now she's ruling over her kingdom, which has expanded because she did, you know, knocked on all those Dravillian towns. And of course, there is a dude who is like, oh, but you're not married. So shouldn't you be married because you're a woman? And so he says, come and come to my city. Come meet me. And we could be married. And that person is Emperor Constantine. he says come to Constantinople so it's Constantine the seventh of Constantinople and he's like you should marry me so she gets there he's kind of like it's like a diplomatic mission that she goes down there and he says will you marry me and she says I totally would but like I'm a pagan and you're a Christian and I don't think it's going to work you know like you can't marry me because I am like a Viking pagan person and he's like well what if I baptize you and she's like okay cool and so he baptizes her and then in the baptism he is also her godfather so he like signs everything and like hangs out and like is a part of it
Starting point is 00:19:44 and then after it's over he's like great you're christian now we can get married and she goes but now you're like my dad so we can't get married and he says Olga you have outwitted me and so he doesn't have to marry him she's like really like a way ahead of everyone yeah so it does sound though like she's liked being christian at least is what the sources are saying and maybe it's what they wanted to say but she went back and tried to get Stanislav, her son to get baptized. And he said no, he didn't want to do it. But she built some churches anyway. And she was sort of like the first person to, you know, in this record, bring Christianity to that like northern European, Russian, Ukrainian land. So her son never converted to Christianity. Eventually he did obviously become the ruler because he
Starting point is 00:20:34 became of age and he started ruling um he also enjoyed pillaging you know and at one point he says i want to um go to another city i don't want to live in kiev anymore i want to go somewhere else where i have more gold of like you know piles of gold whatever and uh olga was like i'm really old she was like potentially in her 70s and she was like i want to just stay here can you just stay here until i die um and she died soon after in the year 969 um so She got a Christian burial, even though her son kind of didn't want to do that. He wanted to do a Viking burial, which, as we know, sounds cooler. I'm pretty sure you get to be in that boat.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And her tomb was robbed by the Batu Khan, so the Khan's coming in from Asia in 1240. But her body had been moved to the Church of the Tiles, which is in Ukraine, but I don't think exists anymore. In her grandson, Vladimir, he adopted Christianity in 988. so, you know, 20 so years after she died, and then he would start, you know, to bring it to people, like, in the land as well. And now we know that, like, you know, there's a lot of, like, Orthodox Christianity in Russia and in the area is, like, very popular. In 1547, the Russian Orthodox Church canonized her due to her efforts to promote Christianity. And she is often referred to as, quote, equal to the apostles. So, because she did, it's significant. Significant contributions to the spread of Christianity, even though, like, she didn't do it. Like, her efforts to spread Christianity failed, but she did build some churches and did sort of, like, was a very first person, like, in that area to be a Christian and talk about it. But that's not why she's a saint. That is why she's insane.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I thought she had to perform a miracle. Oh, sure. I'm sure she performed a miracle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she was, like, considered in the first place because of her bringing Christian. to those people. And it's in Russia. It's a Russian Orthodox Church.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So maybe it's a little bit different than the Catholic Church. Man, some people's lives are so much cooler than ours. I mean, what a fucking, what a tale of revenge? How fun? There's nothing I love
Starting point is 00:22:48 more than justified indignant rage. You know? It's a most satisfying feeling I think a human can have when like you can never fill the thirst you have of anger.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Mm-hmm. and man she really really committed to it she really did she really did yeah all these guys all these guys had to have read about her like the the um game of thrones guy like oh yeah this all had to people he didn't pluck it out of thin air yeah no totally i think there's the more that i read about like some of these stories you're like oh that i definitely saw that and gave a thrones or like i definitely saw that and like lord of the rings like that idea of like you know this kind of ruler and this kind of relationship with their daughter or whatever you know like yeah it's all you know ancient history is you know as we said storytelling as well so yeah but but this is fun it also
Starting point is 00:23:40 reminds me of just how uh just tiny and new america is the united states it reminds me when i was in when i was in ireland and i was like in that one i was at trinity university and like yeah so this church, not the church, they're like, yeah, this library, it was, the first break was laid in 1482 and it was completed in 1500. I was like, what are you even talking about? Did you see the book of Kells while you were there? Yes. Yeah, so pretty. Yeah, it was really cool. I talked about like illuminated manuscripts. Yeah. Oh, Trinity College is so beautiful. It is. Yeah. Also, just one more thing, if you are so inclined, Olga of Kiev's Feast Day is July 11th, which is the anniversary of her death. So I guess you just, I don't know, put some, put some birds on fire.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I mean, we just missed it. It's a month from today. Or it was a month from today. Yeah. So, yeah, super fun story. I'm glad I learned about it. Are you going to do, is this going to be a series? You're going to cover a saint? I don't know if it's going to be an officially a series. I feel like I might grab one every once in a while when I like find one. There's so many, you know. And so, Some of them, like, it's so interesting that, like, the trying to get like six people to be Christian in Kievan, Kievan Rus, is enough to make you a saint even though you killed, like, thousands of people. I know, meanwhile, Mother Teresa is living in, like, basically a prison cell of room making, washing leper's feet that are falling off in her hands. I know, even though she has the cure. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yes, yes. Very cool. Thanks for sharing, Taylor. Yeah, that's fun. That's a, man, the Catholic stuff is so fun. I love, like, walking into, like, an old Catholic church is really fun. Not in the U.S. Like, in Europe, when you're in Europe, it's like, okay, they're so, they're so dramatic, you know, all of these, like, oh, because also in, okay, I remember this is true.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And this is not a spoiler for the first omen, but in it, like, I forgot that, like, when you are a nun, you're married to God. So you have to, like, have, like, a wedding and wear, like, a wedding ring, you know? Really? And it's just, like, very, very dramatic. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. okay there's apparently a saint who was known for his orgies so we got to cover that guy
Starting point is 00:26:00 yeah i mean i don't know i've it seems like the bars all over the place and they don't really know exactly where it is you really you really were if you were going to shoot for anything you would shoot for being an early saint because it sounds like you kind of got to do whatever you wanted to but also the church was still building so they were like all right well maybe you gave him a lot of money and that's all it took to be a saint i don't know maybe it was maybe it was all a scam. Maybe. I also,
Starting point is 00:26:29 there's also like saints would they have like their finger somewhere? Yeah. Yeah. You know, like relics. Saints also have relics.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I think we just talk about that sometime. Oh, the head and finger of St. Catherine are in Tuscan. Like, what? That is so wild.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It was, it was, is it Urbane, Urbane Grandier? is he a saint now do you remember his story no oh my god the head of st. Catherine and sienna
Starting point is 00:27:04 is real fucking scary it's a dead head I don't love it uh I yes wait was urbane grandier ever a saint was urbane grandier ever a saint
Starting point is 00:27:19 no he was never he was never saint but they do have parts of his body so he was the one that last last podcasted the devils of ludan remember that episode oh yeah yeah yeah where they thought that he was like the women were like having dreams about him and so they thought he was like a devil or whatever and so they like tortured these shit out of him before they killed them and um and they have its body parts like in the church yeah anyways um very very very fun
Starting point is 00:27:50 yeah um cool well thank you for listening i have One listener mail to share from our friend, Nadine, who wrote to me regarding Christopher Hitchens that you mentioned in your last episode. She said, OMFG, Taylor. I can't believe you don't know Christopher Hitchens because you would totally agree with everything he ever said. Biggest antithiest ever, I think. I hope you've done a deep dive since recording the Mother Teresa episode and loved it. I mean, thank you for that. But also, I think I mentioned on that episode, I was like literally every, like, world theory I have that has shaped my mind.
Starting point is 00:28:24 life comes from watching or listening to him well i should i should read about i should read his work but i never did but you don't read i don't read but you know how to but like you don't do i know how to hit the record button i know what the record button looks like um no watches youtube clips his youtube clips is incredible like there's hours and hours of content out there so cool um thank for writing in and also yeah if you have any thoughts you want to write in please do at Dunifelpod at gmo.com. Yeah, any weird, any weird saints that you know about, there's so many, you know, like, who's the one that like, I feel like there's something in Sweden?
Starting point is 00:29:03 I'll look it up, but like, we're like the saints' eyes are taken out of our head so you like close your eyes, but you have candles on your head or something, like the whole thing. Again, who thinks to this stuff? Only, like, it's so fun. And I'm turning, I'm turning the page on it. Like, yes, the Catholic Church does terrible things. Like the molestation, for example.
Starting point is 00:29:22 But they give us so much. The Exorcist, Omen movie. Like, come on. I think popular culture has done good. Well, the storytelling is good. In some cases. Like, I don't know. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:29:35 No. I'm a fan. Not always. But I did, yeah, I do love it. I kind of want to watch the original Omen tonight. I remember watching it when I was a child and being so fucking scared when they opened up that coffin and there's a jackal inside. I don't want my mom.
Starting point is 00:29:47 My mom let me watch that when I was like seven. That's not a movie you watched when you're seven. I couldn't handle it when I was like 19. I know. Yeah, but yeah, cool. Thanks for listening, Dunderfield Pot on all socials. We have found footage on YouTube that I found in my home. And it is up to relaxing jazz music.
Starting point is 00:30:07 It's kind of fun to watch some people that we don't know for the 1960s living their lives. If you know them, let me know. Literally just like have it running on a monitor, like while you're working. It's so chill. Yeah, thank you. I'm glad that I have it up there. I've been meeting to for a while. thank you for sharing you know what one other thing i was thinking before we hop off i was actually
Starting point is 00:30:26 wondering like i was looking at this family line olga's family line and it is deep yeah like i really want to do ivan the terrible like yeah you know like they're so you know we love russia so there's like russian things too in there a lot of russia things and then it made me like i started googling like any of these ancestors like alive now and if they are what are they doing and i can't really get to a bottom of it i'm going to keep googling them but it's a you keep going I have a cool thing to share
Starting point is 00:30:56 no that's it I just want to figure out like where are they now because they look like a crazy dynastic family because I went I went several under issue on LinkedIn or
Starting point is 00:31:07 Wikipedia if you click through like several generations you'll eventually get to like Queen of Denmark or whatever they ended up in like very very steep royal lines apparently yeah totally which is good for her
Starting point is 00:31:21 so I do I have my 23 in me and I like the health reports like it I did it I paid like a lot of money to get the health report to find out that I don't have the gene for Alzheimer's which I was very worried about because their grandma had it so I don't have that and it was like a big relief so I don't know that doesn't mean it's never going to happen but like I don't have that like direct gene so that was good but I paid more money recently to see who my historical ancestors are and It's super fun. So I have some historical matches. I have 10 historical matches. Some of the, and all of them are Vikings, like a Viking age individual found in Denmark, a Viking age individual found in Estonia in Sweden in the UK. So that's super fun. Do you know who? No, it just says that. So if I click on any of them, it says Viking age individual, blah, blah, blah, found in Denmark. So it says, this person was found in a simple unmarked pit grave near the present-day region of Bacendrup in the western part of Zealand in Denmark. It was excavated in 1979 and in the National Museum of Denmark, based on the style of burial,
Starting point is 00:32:33 they believe that they died in the ninth century by analyzing DNA from her tooth. They discover that she was female and that were related. That's cool. Hey, you should do Ancestry.com because I think they can narrow it down to like actual individuals. I don't think there are any actual individuals. I'm from a poor people I'm from like a my dad's always like
Starting point is 00:32:56 do you know what our family was doing this day in history and I'm like what and he's like they're at a bar he's like there's a really good chance that's true and I'm like you're totally right we were like making things but I do I should do that too but I think that
Starting point is 00:33:11 I think Olga is close to my people even though I'm not tall and blonde I know some tall and blonde people I'm related to I believe it. Sweet. Well, thank you for sharing. And yeah, as I said, if you have anything you want to write in, comment about,
Starting point is 00:33:27 please do Dumanafelpot at gmail.com. Anything else, Taylor? That's it. Thank you. Sweet. And we're going to cut.

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