Doomed to Fail - Ep 14 - Part 1: Demons probably aren't real, but this dude is: Pazuzu Algarad

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

Taylor opens this week's re-release with a story of almost losing a friend in the back yard after a party - If you're listening to this in Jan 2024 it's topical because this just happened in Kansas Ci...ty. It also sort of happens in the story of Pazuzu Algarad [née John Alexander Lawson]. Drug dealer, man who needed a lot of psychiatric help, child who was abused by his mother, and an eventual murderer. Join us! Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, friends, Taylor from Doom to Fail. Today, we are re-releasing episode 14, part one on Pizzuzzo. Pizzou, Algarad. I mean, obviously, that's not, but this man's real name. Pazuzu is an ancient demon, and he's actually the one that was in the exorcist. And this douchebag just, you know, took that as his name because he thought it was cool. But so, if you listen into this in real time, it is January 2024. And this thing just happened in the news where after the Kansas City game, that was really, really cold the other day, this guy had friends over, and then two of his friends ended up frozen in the backyard, like obviously dead. So this tracks because Pizzuzu has friends buried in his backyard. That's why I'm telling you this story. But the question right now, the mystery currently in the news, is like how these guys die, what happened? So I actually have a story when I, I mean, 20 years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I lived in Queens, New York, and we lived in a little house, and we lived in the first floor in the basement, And the basement had a tiny backyard that was like an eight by eight square of concrete between buildings.
Starting point is 00:01:03 And it was New Year's Eve. And we had these huge parties every New Year's Eve. There were like 100 people. Our apartment was wrecked. We had a great time. And the last one we had, I kicked everybody out because someone peed on the floor. And I was like, okay, like, that's absolutely enough. And I was just absolutely furious.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And I mean, obviously, it was in the bathroom, but still. And so we're getting everybody to leave. And we're like, okay, see you later. people cabs, all the things, and no one can find one of our friends. And they're like, where is he? Have you seen him? And we're like, he must have just left. So in the middle of cleaning up, I go into the backyard and the fence is broken. And I was like, these jerks broke my fence and they're destroying my house. So I put the fence back, went back inside. Everybody was going to bed. And then I got really hot in my room because in New York, you have like a radiator. So the radiator
Starting point is 00:01:50 was banging. And I opened up my window a little bit and I heard a cough. And I was like, I know where he is. and I went outside and I moved the fence back and he was behind the fence and my neighbor's yard passed out because he was like drunk and had gone back there to like I don't know throw up or be alone or whatever you do when you're in your 20s and drunk and we brought him inside we had a friend who was a nurse happened to be sitting over so she like made sure he was okay all the things we put him under a bunch of blankets and then in the morning he was okay but like I can definitely see how he could have stayed out there all night I don't think he would have died it wasn't negative four like it wasn't Kansas City but if he would have passed out in the neighbor's yard
Starting point is 00:02:27 I was the only person who knew I moved the fence because I did that. And then I had to hear him. No one else would have known. So I think it is possible to freeze outside. I don't know if that really tracks with this story, but it's friends dying in the backyard is the through line here. And as a reminder, we are re-releasing all of our episodes. But if you want to listen to the whole one, you can always go back to the beginning.
Starting point is 00:02:49 This is episode 14. Thank you for listening. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. I'm like lucky I could talk today because I couldn't talk yesterday. I sounded very gravely. Are you sick? Yes, I've been sick for over a week now.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah, you might have had what I had that last three weeks. Yeah. Okay, well, I'll kick things off. Welcome to Doom to Fail, the podcast, me and Taylor just talk about how tired we are until one of us will eventually die yes not soon not soon but who knows who knows who knows these days Taylor is joining us from Las Vegas I'm in Austin as usual I was just in Las Vegas so we miss each other once again we're going to see each other in Palm Springs in about two weeks give or take so yeah Taylor how are you doing
Starting point is 00:03:56 today good i just well i just drove here so it was like a four-hour drive my kids did really good in the car it was just with three of us and i am yeah i'm good they're playing with my mom they brought all their toys they've already made a huge mess i've already eaten in the ton of snacks i don't know if you just like eat constantly at your parents house but like the mom's house i'm like i'm gonna have for a snack so i've already eaten a ton of snacks it's always carbs with my parents my mom since she retired just baked cakes and pies all day amazing and i'll get there and And she's like, well, I just created a pumpkin cheesecake. Do you want to try?
Starting point is 00:04:30 I'm like, well, that sounds unique. Yeah, I'll try that. And it's like, oh, and by the way, here's a chocolate cake as well if you want to try. It's like thing after thing after thing. You always gain weight when I'm at home. But I think that's supposed to happen. I think it's supposed to. I just had half a box, the triscuits and some cheese and salami.
Starting point is 00:04:43 So I'm ready to go. Yeah. Sounds amazing. So we have our two stories today that are red flaggy relationships. So we're obviously going to be doomed to fail that nobody paid attention to. I'm on the true crime side. Taylor, you on the historical side. Who goes first this week?
Starting point is 00:04:57 I keep forgetting. I think it's you. Me. Okay. Yeah. Why don't you tell us your drink and then I'll tell my drink and then we can segue into the true prime. Cool.
Starting point is 00:05:06 So this week I'm going to, well, I have a sore throat like I told you. So I really should be hydrating. I am hydrating. I'm drinking water in real life. But my drink is like a watery ale from like a time when water was not available. So all you drink was beer. That sounds like my time to be alive. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:23 When like water was like brown and. like had malaria so you just like drink beer but it's not like you were drinking like a IPA all constantly if we have any pathologists that listen to this show can please let us know if you can catch malaria by drinking it I think you can that's how you get malaria it's like in the water or is that cholera collars in the water malaria is in the mosquitoes I think they have to hyperdermically yeah there you go cholera perfect so my drink is a little bit unique this week because our person is kind of unique this week my drink is going to be, it's got to be alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I'm going to make it a little bit alcoholic, just for the hell of it. But it's, but it mostly is comprised of, um, rabbit's blood mixed with vodka. Yeah. So I don't actually know how well those blend together, but I would imagine that the rabbit blood would neutralize. Oh, you don't? I'm sorry. You don't know how well those go together?
Starting point is 00:06:14 I have not. What kind of Somali are you? I know, right. It probably would look like wine a little bit. I'm going to interrupt. But I would assume that the blood would neutralize the harshness of the vodka or the Bacca might neutralize the harshness of the blood. I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I bet it would be really salty, though. I don't know what I think about blood, but I'm imagining it's like, you know, when you drink an Irish carbom, you have to drink it really, really fast where it curdles. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's kind of one of those. Okay. Well, great. I'm excited to learn more about this because that's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah, listeners, go ahead and pour yourself a nice steaming glass of rabbits' blood and let's get going. So the person I'm covering today, his name is John Alexander Lawson. Taylor, do you know who that is? Does not ring a ball right now. Okay. You might better know him by the name that he legally changed to in 2002, Pizzou, Algarad. I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:07:05 No way. You don't know Pizzuzuzu? I don't think so. Okay. Well, this is a pretty fun one. I think I would remember that. This is going to be a fun one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I'm excited. One thing about this case I found interesting is that the reports about what happened here seemed way, way more focused on Pizzu as a person than the crimes he actually. committed he's just like such a freak show like such an anomaly that people were kind of swept away by him as a person and because of that things like dates motives details around the crime even the ages of the victims were kind of hard to come by so for example in some reports that i read they say that the victims are 31 and 32 years old others say that they were 37 36 years old some say he was arrested for accessory to murder in 2012 before he was arrested on first-degree murder charges. Others say that murder happened in 2020. So like details were kind of hard to come by.
Starting point is 00:07:59 The only thing that's actually 100% for certain is the search warrant that I read because I was generated by the police obviously. And so does have hard dates on them. I'm going to get to the search warrant later on in the story. But just highlighting the fact that this guy in his story are kind of hard to nail down exactly what happened and when they happen. But we're going to do our best here. Okay. Cool. Given what I just said, about what a character this guy was hopefully some of you guys have already heard of him if you have you've mostly heard of him because of his appearance his appearance being striking in the most nightmarish way possible okay when should i google him should i google him now just wait wait okay
Starting point is 00:08:39 yeah you tell me when i'll tell you when um there's so much to say about this guy but i'll start by pointing out several red flags so you're probably not going to like me saying this taylor because you're dramatically more woke than I am. But one of the biggest red flags here I want to call out is stereotyping. So, Taylor, now would be the time I would like you to take a look at Pizzou's pictures. Pizzou is spelled P-A-Z-U-Z-U. And it don't say anything. When can I say something?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Did you see it? I did. Well, I see two and I have several thoughts. Why don't I ask you some questions, then you can share your thoughts. Okay. let me ask you when you look at a picture of that guy you haven't heard his voice you don't really know what his aura is being in his presence or you know whether if you look into his eyes and you think they're a window to the soul which i know you don't you have no idea
Starting point is 00:09:34 what he's like but just looking at his pictures is that a guy you would want to spend any time with no absolutely not would you want to do drugs with him no oh if i i say no because i fear i would die because he does so many he does harder drugs than i do so is there any chance if he invited you over to his house you would go to his house with him one night no absolutely not it would smell terrible it would be there'd be bed bugs okay describe describe what your thoughts are now so i see in some pictures he has a shaved head and he has a lot of face tattoos which is like i'm actually whatever face tattoos are fine he does have a big tattoo it looks like on his arm that just says satan which makes me laugh so that's hilarious but um also but then other ones he
Starting point is 00:10:19 has dreadlocks. I don't know if we're stereotyping, but white men should not have dreadlocks. It's gross. Okay. I'm going to, per usual, we're going to combat a little bit on a specific topic you just called out, which is face tattoos. But let me get into the stereotyping piece of this. I'm not like everyone should get face tattoos, but I'm like, this is not the end of the world. Sure. Continue. I'll continue. And we'll decide that. My point around serious. So, In today's climate and culture, it's not really super appropriate to say what I'm about to say, which is that stereotypes and prejudices actually exist for a reason. They do. They're evolutionary.
Starting point is 00:11:00 So as humans evolved into what we are today, the genes that were passed down were the genes of those who could immediately identify danger and had the ability to avoid it. So I read a chapter on this treatise, this like thesis study on psychology. So the book itself is the Cambridge Handbook of the Psychology of Prejudices. The chapter I read on this was Chapter 2 titled Evolutionary Approaches to Stereotyping and Prejudices. So if you want to check that out, you can find it. You can go to the Cambridge's website and they publish all this stuff on their website. So you can actually go read it right there. And it really explains this concept.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It has a lot of details in there and it breaks down prejudices and stereotypes into different categories like race, age, sex, kinship, stuff like that. But the simplest way I can kind of sum most of it up was this quote that I read there, which is, this is a quote, by viewing a particular individual as being like typical members of some group, one need not engage in more effort in lengthy attempts to understand him or her as a unique individual. That's amazing. Well, is that it? Is that the end of that quote? That's the end of that quote. That's on the end of my rant. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Well, if I may, right now, I feel like fair. If I'm thinking about like January 6th, insurrectionists, I don't need to know their life to know the way I feel about them, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, that makes sense to me. And then also, today and next week, I'm going to talk a lot about the American experience and how we got here, and there is some stereotyping involved. So the history of stereotyping involved in a way that I think connects.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Oh, we have a through line. Look at us. That rarely happens. It does not. It happens all the time. Yeah, it's true. So all this is say that all this is kind of evolutionary and we are by nature recoiled or drawn to certain people.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And if you don't listen to that part of your brain that tells you recoil, you're basically going to end up like the people that we are talking about on this story. So, John Wamsley, right? Yeah. Okay. So did I tell you how me and my ex-wife accidentally went to his house for like a open open house and then we like fell in love with the house it was like i forgot where it was it was like cypress hill or something it was it was in this it was a part of l.a that was definitely not
Starting point is 00:13:19 gentrified but it was like kind of almost close to being there that time it was sort of like 2016 or 15 and we have like in love with this house but there's like on apartment complex next to it and this guy came out of the complex like directly next to the house got in this truck that was parked in front of my car and he was just like covered in face tattoos and i was just like, I'm not living here. I don't give a shit with the house cause. Like, I'm not living next to this, dude. And I don't know. To your point, like, maybe this guy had a heart of gold. I don't know. But I just, I don't need to know anything more about you. I don't need to dive into your soul. Like, none of that. Yeah. I mean, if you have face tattoos,
Starting point is 00:13:55 you're not making the statement, come talk to me. Yeah. Yeah. Like, my general theory on it is, like, you chose to become a social outcast. So, like, where's my obligation line? trying to understand who you are. So you take a look at this guy, Pizzuzu, which I'm going to describe, which you just did, covered in this nonsensical, like, prison tats, like homemade tattoos on his face with dreadlocks as a white guy. And we're going to get to this a little bit later. He also shaved his teeth into points.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah. Like, do you really need to, and he, and he's like, hey, come on over to my house. It's like, let's do a bunch of meth. I think, why would you do that? Like, it's such an obvious red flag. There's, yes, 100%. One thing about face tattoos, I have seen some beautiful, like, women, like the Maori women who have beautiful face tattoos, like indigenous face tattoos are cool.
Starting point is 00:14:49 That's so different. We are not talking about. No, I know we're not. I just want to make it clear that's not what we're talking about. And then two, actually, when you Google this guy, the first image is, it says Pizzou, Pizzou Algarad house debris removal. I'm clicking on it, but it's pretty much like shovels of garbage. So, yes, I would not go to that house.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Yeah, we're definitely going. we're going into the house we're not going into the house but we're going to go into orders but i'm not going to go into orders house yeah yeah so one thing i wanted to highlight here again this is not a love letter to prejudices the same article that i just quoted also there's a quote in there saying just because of behavior is an adaptation does not mean it's adaptive i.e. beneficial to the possessor in modern environments so i'm not saying it's best in the world but again if a guy who drinks rabbit blood and has face tattoos and bites you over to his house. Just say that as a sign to say no.
Starting point is 00:15:42 So much has happened in the last 10 minutes. I forgot about the rabbit blood. Yeah, there you go. Refill your steaming warm cup of rather than. Great. I'm glad you brought that back. So the name itself, Pizzuzu, is actually from ancient Babylon. It refers to a spirit, which is oftentimes regarded as a demon, who has the body of a man, the head of a lion or dog, depending on who you're talking to, is talons for feet, wings,
Starting point is 00:16:06 in a scorpion's tail. So Pazuzu was actually the demon that possessed Regan in the Exorcist movies. That was, yeah, that was like the claim to fame for Pizu. There's actually a ton of scholarly articles about Pazuzu's creation, the evolution, varying takes on how powerful the demon he was, so on and so forth. You go to world history.com, which is where I got a lot of my source information on this demon, fictitious demon, that this insane person named him. himself after. His last name, the last name that he took, Algarad, that's the Arabic word for
Starting point is 00:16:42 Lord of the Locusts. All right. So that's the headspace. Individually, those are cool things. It could have been cooler if he didn't. I mean, I think maybe like disassociated from this person. They're cool. Ooh, I'm Google, I Google just Pizzou and you get that scary exorcist face. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Apparently, he was mostly a normal. kid growing up. And around age eight is when his mom put him in some sort of a mental institution because he was acting up and acting out. According to one of their neighbors and an early babysitter of Pizzou, his mom was kind of a piece of shit who spent most of his childhood leaving him alone to go on dates and was basically constantly drunk. That sucks. So, so yeah, I can basically say she was a
Starting point is 00:17:30 piece of shit. If you, I mean, if you look at like how he turned out, if you raise a kid like Pizzou, who was normal by all accounts until basically the parent's separation of the mom going the route that she went and instead you spent all your time pursuing male validation rather than providing like enrichment activities for your kids you're kind of a piece of shit like you're not like really doing your responsibilities as an adult yeah and I mean like you can go on dates but you shouldn't leave your children alone and like abandoned them well he was asking out because he was like abandoned yeah or just like totally abandoned them which we're all for if you don't want to take care of them yeah yeah yeah well at least you can't kill them restaurant yeah
Starting point is 00:18:09 yeah i mean a guess yeah who knows what i think what's to do here complicated it's a little complicated so i wrote this whole thing about so you basically touched on everything i'm going to talk about here but i wrote all about his appearance again white guy with long dreadlocks i have no clue what the face tattoos are i looked at them for hours and i can't make any sense out of any of them and one of them the bald one that you pointed out he also shaved his eyebrows presumably to tattoo the fake eyebrow dots that you see on them they just look like random symbols like they're not tribal he has nothing to do with indigenous well no yeah um yeah and then to your point he has uh the the the word satan and all caps tattooed on one side along the entire length of his arm which like
Starting point is 00:18:53 i don't know that one's kind of cool i think that makes me laugh that's funny he was he actually was high on meth one day whenever he decided to foul his teeth into points so there was that Oh, my God. That's crazy. Have you ever seen when people get veneers that they have to do that first? Have you ever seen that? If you get like really, like rich people, if they get like really, really fancy veneers, first, the dentist literally has to file down their real teeth and then pop the veneers and then over it. And you're like, you just lost your real teeth. What is a veneer?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Like a very like a perfect tooth that you like put over your teeth. So like if someone has like a really perfect smile, like it's not real. you know it's like it's fake like it's when you have jacked up teeth basically yeah you get them fixed okay but to get them to get them like really expensive veneers like getting just like getting dentures but you don't need them yet just live with braces for a year yeah it's gross um oh also i guess this is not this is not a time for me to share this thought but i can invisible is not invisible i can see it everyone america i just want you to know Right now, if you're like, oh, I have a visible line.
Starting point is 00:20:04 No one can see it. I can see it. I don't really stare at people's mouths. I wouldn't even know if someone... It's impossible not to see. It like makes some teeth look like they're fused together and it's full of spit and it's gross. And I can see it. I mean, I get redoing, but like just like, let's not pretend it's physical.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Keep going. Okay. Oh my gosh. It's going to be five hour long episode. I know. I know. I was writing my notes last night. I have 24 pages of notes and I don't even know if I have a story to tell.
Starting point is 00:20:31 So I'm just so excited. to get to mind you so keep going okay okay we're gonna we're gonna soldier on okay so posuzu lived in uh clemens north carolina which is a suburb of winston salem and i did hear his voice and he does sound like a southern hillbilly we are going to right outside we're in winston salem no we're not we are isn't that where jays we're that is where jay is but their wedding is in ashville north carolina yeah he i don't have the invite yet you already have the invite I have to save the date. Okay, okay, good.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I thought that he deliberately uninvited me. He, like, told me he's engaged and then, like, made a point not to send me the invite. So, yeah, going back to Pizzou, he's one of those guys who kind of like to free people out. So apparently after 9-11, he would dress as a jihadist, like, just one of those guys that wants to scare everybody. I think that's also partially why he went the whole satanic, demonic route, because in South Carolina, everybody loves, yeah, everybody loves Jesus. And he just walks around like a psychopath. apparently despite everything I said about stereotypes a ton of people ignored the red flags and his house was apparently chalk full of kids who wanted to party and be in his presence
Starting point is 00:21:40 yeah I kind of I kind of equate him to rescue him because you had this like dark vibe mysterious vibe to him and kind of reminded me a rescue in a little bit and if you're in that if you're in that kind of person that's attractive to a certain point of time in your life and so like being a kid and a teenager wanting drugs yeah yeah yeah yeah he was like an older guy though like he was in his like 30s oh yeah there's always that guy and he's and his mom lived in the house with him and like she was just like he was like cartman from south partly you're just like make his mom make him sandwiches and like go buy him beers like at 33 years old like it was kind of the meatloaf yeah yeah i wrote down one of the guys who's interview was his
Starting point is 00:22:28 kind of named Crazy Dave Adams, who was one of his friends who would always go to his house. I'm just paying a picture of the type of people that are there. This guy's sitting on this, like, disgusting couch getting interviewed by Vice. He's holding a beer can in one hand while he's smoking a cigarette with his shirt off. And he has all these just, like, trash tattoos. Crazy Dave. He was definitely fit the name. He has the word insane in all caps tattooed, like under his neck.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Like, that's the, those are the people that we're talking about hanging out. that's a look that's a thing yeah it's a look so i wrote down the house itself seemed to be its own entity anyone who went near the house would unanimously say it smelled awful and that people there were regularly peeing and taking shits on the floor in the open but his but his mom was there she had her own room and apparently she just did not leave that room right she's also a bad mother he's also she has her own shit going on it's like those moms who were like my son's my best friend and it's like You really need to yank the chain every now and then on your kid. My son's my best friend, but he's six.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Well, yeah, that's slightly different. So there was also, obviously, like, they would all talk about, like, how he would just constantly slit the throats of rabbits or cats that he would find and pour the blood all over him, or he would just, like, use a cat and just hang it on a tree outside. Like, he was, he was invested in this lifestyle. Yikes. Okay, this is probably not going to be a surprise to any of you who've looked. looked up this guy's pictures, he had a serious, serious problem with drugs and alcohol,
Starting point is 00:24:03 and he also was reported to have schizophrenia. Oh. And he was supposed to be on medication. It's a switch. He didn't have a chance, really. Yeah, yeah. He was fucked. Like, he had no chance.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I mean, he had schizophrenia that was mostly untreated, and he was self-medicating by taking meth, acid, and alcohol, basically. Yeah, there's no chance. Like, he needs professional help, and that does not sound like something that would ever have been like offered to him yeah exactly yeah exactly so uh like i said the mom was in the house and uh she i watched an interview with her and like now way after the fact so posita's dad spoiler alert and now the mom when you hear talking she's just so nonchalant about it's like oh he was just a crazy kid and this it's like just dissonance i don't understand it yeah she would like
Starting point is 00:24:53 she like laughed about how he like was kicked out of the second grade because he just stopped attending class like it was funny like not graders don't do that you do that like he's driving himself to school and not going it's actually a really good point i didn't think about that you know like i mean like i get like a high school or not going to school that's like on their own volition but a second grader can only go to school if you bring them to school yeah yeah that's that's actually a really good point um the house again all of it except the mother's room was just wrecked there was a there's actually a ton of footage of police body cams going inside the house i love this one of the officers on the body cam says
Starting point is 00:25:32 quote this guy's got a bad case of whatever he's got which is like the most southern way of saying this guy's fucked up like he was so nice about it you know what i watched this week that reminded me of that do you know the the rapper afro man yeah yeah i heard about this video of the cops in his house no i didn't see it but i heard about it it's yeah it's pretty amazing it's like he has his own security cameras the cops went into his house to like find drugs and kidnapping victim him which makes no sense and he was like you know and it's like are you the the song is like are you going to help me fix my door because they like broke down his door and then there's like one cop who's like looking at a cake and he like stops and looks at the cake again and like you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:26:13 know who they were except the cops sued him because they're embarrassed because he used in the video right yeah yeah yeah and it's like you broke into his house for no reason and then um just like looked at all of his stuff and he's like did you find any children and my CDs because they're going through all his CDs. It's really funny. What a ludicrous. I bet his house was nice too. It was so nice. Yeah. Yeah. Opposite of this. Yeah. So the house, obviously, there were shit everywhere. It kind of looked like an abandoned house with squatters that would be living there. He had a swat, like a giant swastika painted on the living room ceiling. Like everything was just spray painted. Apparently he had a swastika tattoo also on his leg. But again,
Starting point is 00:26:53 I don't even think he had any beliefs because I think he just did anything to shock people. Right. It just wanted to like people have a reaction. Rampant, untreated schizophrenia mixed with alcohol and drugs. Yeah. No. It's worth noting that when the crimes that we're going to discuss here in a moment came to light, the city just leveled the house because it would have cost them a fortune to make it up to code and livable.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So we're going to get into our second antagonist here, which was Pizzouza's girlfriend. Her name is Amber Birch. And she was present for at least one of the murders that and helped hide the body of the first victim, which we're about to get into. She kind of reminds me of like a lost kid, although I'm using the word kid sparingly here because she was 24 years old. But when she met Pizzou, he was 35. So the age disparity was kind of a thing, I think. Yeah. Amber would eventually plead guilty to second degree murder accessory after the fact to first screen murder and robbery with a dangerous weapon and was sentenced to 39 years.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Wow. look I don't think that she's innocent because I'm going to get into what they did together but just choose your with wisely you know like it's such a slippery slope like if okay so my weird edge lord boyfriend beheads a rabbit in front of me what's a whatever we're just going to bury a body next like it just feels like it turned into a very very slippery slope I mean then how do you yeah that's scary then or is it like are you like in a I don't know a thing like I can like spiral then what happens i mean yeah well they were together for a long time because we're going to get into this but the crimes started they originated in 2009 and these people weren't arrested until 2014 so like they were in deep yeah so getting into the crimes uh again details are a little hard to come by we don't know a ton about the motivations for these crimes although the search warrant once it was unsealed did state something in there i'll get into that but mostly it's just random it seems like it's kind of random there could have just really not been a motive in this
Starting point is 00:28:56 we tend to look at this as a satanic and demonically possessed crime and just forget the fact that this guy was a drug addict and a schizophrenic he could have made something up in his mind like anything he could have seen the guy on the couch and be like oh that's a that's jesus i got to shoot him you know yeah satan isn't real so i think that's also part of the part of the same yeah exactly so he's making it up in whatever way that means you know There's making it up, like, intentionally to beat, like, scare people, or he's making it up because he's having a schizophrenic episode. I think he's just doing it because he's antisocial. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So in October of 2014, the remains of two individuals were discovered in Pazooza's backyard. The two were the bodies of Joshua Welzer and Tommy Walsh, who had both gone missing in 2009. So Joshua, again, the reports are different here. one of the reports said that he's 32 when he went missing he went missing in july of 2009 Tommy was 31 and he went missing a few months later in october of 2009 apparently Joshua was shot in the living room and dragged to the basement and Tommy was in the basement where he was shot and killed so they were seemingly buried at the same time because our body was found in the same grave so it's theorized that he took
Starting point is 00:30:15 Tommy down to show him Joshua's body and then shot him once he showed him the body was actually dead for months yeah you yeah the search warrant is going to go into a lot of detail about what he did but when it's the house smells like it does do you really notice a dead body no that's fair for months yeah some random dude took a dump at the living room and yeah you're probably going to pay attention to that first joshua's former fiancee reported him missing in 2009 and specifically named pizuzu is who she thinks killed him apparently this is the part that's a real curiosity with this case. Apparently as early as 2010, the police had enough for a valid search warrant of the property, and they kind of almost sort of executed on it, but not really.
Starting point is 00:31:01 It took another five years after this report was first brought to light, and the evidence needed to search the house was realized that police actually went, did a full in-depth search of the house. It's worth noting that the search warrant itself was sealed, meaning it would not be made public which is rare in and of itself but triply rare when the investigation of sentencing is complete so in 2017 is when the first time the judge unsealed the original search warrant which was from probably 2010 so it's been like seven years that it finally got unsealed and that's where i went through when i read and really what it talks about what it shows is that they could have solved these crimes and months like obviously this guy's not a master criminal he's clearly deranged and
Starting point is 00:31:46 insane. Like he's not like he wasn't going to get away with this. And police just didn't do their due diligence. In August of 2009, less than one month after Josh was a murder, a woman named Tarina Billings visited with the police and said that her father had visited his house and observed a dead body in the basement. Oh my God. Yeah. The father, this is part that how he tried to cover this up. The father told his daughter that the body was covered in a plastic tarp and had cat litter and chlorine around it to help with the odor. Both those things smell terrible. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah. He also was told by Pizzou that he had shot the person 10 times, quote, because he was a snitch. It just seems like what you would say, right? Like almost cliche. He even knew that the body was buried in the backyard. Like he told him everything. He told him every detail he needed to to get arrested. And this woman relayed all of them.
Starting point is 00:32:45 that's the police it's all the more well it gets deeper it goes even worse it gets worse than that so a month later they also got an anonymous crime stopper tip saying the exact same thing from like another source they don't know who it is but it wasn't that the woman who initially told them so police go to the house and they do like a basic search and find nothing they talk to pizuzu with not under not in custody and he says i didn't do anything i don't know anything about this you know whatever apparently what happened was the police wanted to go get some, like, device that can identify objects underneath soil. So they could see if there's a body there. The university was using it and they decided they're just going to execute the warrant without it.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But they just, like, walked around the property. So they didn't actually notice anything because the house was dirty, whatever. But there was no body to be found because they're all in the backyard underground. And they'd bury them, like, years before. And, yeah, years before. So, like, the grass already had gone over and so on. so in 2011 Pazuz's mom finally goes to sheriff's office
Starting point is 00:33:49 and tells her that she heard a gunshot at her house and came down and saw Amber holding a rifle and Tommy on the ground presumably dead there's so much evidence that came to light around this like all these people are just going to the police like please arrest this guy do anything and they didn't do anything so in 2014
Starting point is 00:34:09 that's when they finally came back to that original search form from 2010 when a woman named named Dixie, went to the police and provided a written statement. It was like 13 pages, all details of how she basically helped Amber, the girlfriend, dig a grave and dumped two bodies in the backyard. She even specified exactly where in the backyard the graves were dug. So it was at this point they finally executed the warrant.
Starting point is 00:34:35 They showed up and they found Joshua and Tommy's obviously complete decayed bodies. Oh, my God. Yeah. So obviously, Pizzuzzi gets arrested. arrested and that's kind of where the story ends. What ended up happening was he ended up dying presumably by suicide while awaiting trial. Apparently while he was at the first jail, which was in Forsyth County, it was reported by guards and inmates that he would keep biting himself with the sharpened teeth, trying to try and kill himself. And because, yeah, because this jail didn't
Starting point is 00:35:06 have a facility to deal with some of like obvious extreme mental illness issues, they transferred him to another jail and it was there that he was found unresponsive completely bled out from self-afflicted wounds but what's weird is they'd never found anything that would have cut him he had nothing on him there was nothing that he could like there was no glass there was no steel like he just bled out and they presume he just bit himself hard enough to rip it sounds shady his death sounds really shady i don't know what that means yeah it's crazy yeah i'm reading yeah i'm reading this um this daily mail article and it has like it interviewed one of his friends and the quotes that it highlights are really funny like
Starting point is 00:35:50 the the friend says it seems obvious now that he had mental health issues yeah yeah you think good job it's obvious now if you just look at the house you can tell that that person is you don't even have to meet the guy just look at his house it's so funny that like you're not even mentioning the this stuff but like because that's like he's just doing it to be like edgy edgy but yeah like this the article is like disturbing video of a Satanist home you're like well whatever it's just like a dirty house with like I do see the swastika on the ceiling that is definitely bad but like I think the Satan stuff is it's just like what I mean look like I've we've all met these people where they're such they devil's real and it's this and like they look at this guy and they see
Starting point is 00:36:36 They just, who gives us shit? People can believe whatever they want to believe in. This guy acted on things that were derivative of schizophrenia and acid and meth consumption. Like, you probably would have done this if he didn't believe in Satan, didn't have a Satan tattoo and, like, didn't have a space tattoo. Yeah, that's a, this is a, he, this is not, he's not doing great. But that's why so much of the story was, like, obfuscated. It was hard to actually fully understand what really happened and what the motivations were. Like, I dug so deep to try and figure out what the motivations were.
Starting point is 00:37:05 there's three things three details that should be obvious that are not obvious one why did you do it in the first place if we could ever find that out why did the police finally decide to execute on that search for when dixie came forward instead of the previous three confessions of people that came forward and gave details of what happened to these people and then oh man i forgot what the third one was okay i forgot what the third thing was oh is death like why right like how do we not have more details about what happened is that but it all gets offuscated is like crazy satanist did this thing it's like guys like no it's just like mentally you know yeah that's crazy that i mean just it sounds like what a place to like be when like there's you know tons of drugs and people just like i don't know that's crazy
Starting point is 00:37:59 yeah and yeah and why i don't even think of that like why are those two guys dead sounds like there's no good reason not that there's ever a good reason to kill someone but like why are they why did he kill them and doesn't doesn't doesn't really say anything or why did she if she did it it kind of seems like that Joshua guy was like kind of like a homeless mooture but like you look at like crazy Dave and he looks like a homeless mooture too they all look like homeless mooters are all like garbage fucking trash people like so I mean that could crazy Dave crazy Dave this guy but there's a vice did a great piece on this story
Starting point is 00:38:33 that's worth looking at because they interview a lot more people involved in the case and you get a sense of who who was drawn to him you know so that's it wow that's it that's my story don't follow a white guy with dreadlocks and face tattoos with sharpened teeth to his house don't hang out with him unfriend on facebook yeah or like be like hey man get your shit together and then give me a call yeah no don't listen to taylor there's no help for these people you could be a little you can you know figure something out cool well thank you i had not heard of that i can't live in i've heard of that that's quite a thing yeah what's his name before again john alexander lawson hmm that's a nice name yeah yeah he looks like a normal kid you look at his
Starting point is 00:39:24 childhood pictures like it was yeah but whatever is what it is he's dead now yeah he shoot himself to that maybe maybe we don't know this mouthful of blood i have more questions um that's gross well i look i looked at the autopsy report too the autopsy report i don't know why they would do this but they actually like drew his tattoos i did see that i did so i did he had the swastikana's like i saw that and it's not like he had more wounds like just like one maybe you have to do that yeah so and i think it also sounds like the i guess to your second question like it sounds like finally when dixie went and was like they're literally right here pointing to the spot they were like fine we'll go look could we do the least amount of work
Starting point is 00:40:10 humanly possible fine i guess we have to know you know there's like further shows the corruption of like the prosecution the state we're just like we don't care we're like some of the same things that like you know you're saying like these people are garbage people who cares maybe you know so you're saying i'm more like the prosecution in this case i don't know i'm just saying it sounds a little bit like that that's fair true. It's a stereotype. We're talking stereotypes.
Starting point is 00:40:36 That's true. Nothing could possible I go wrong. Yeah, what's happened to me? All right. I'm going to go to mine. Let's hear it. All right.

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