Doomed to Fail - Ep 14: Puritanically Pazuzu - Pazuzu Algarad & Thomas Morton and William Bradford

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

This week Farz ended the recording by saying ‘we really phoned this in didn’t we?’ It’s fine! Farz judges books by their cover now, and tells us the confusing and often sad story of Pazuzu Algarad and the people he killed in his very dirty house. Taylor brings us to 1600s America - where the Puritans (who are awful) win over the folks who are trying to have a little bit of fun. Is this how we got here? *Gestures EVERYWHERE* It’s the story of Thomas Morton and William Bradford – Taylor wishes she had more time to read more about this! Follow us on Instagram & Facebook!  @doomedtofailpodFollow us on Instagram & Facebook!  @doomedtofailpodhttps://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpodYoutube - https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpodSources:I should have read this - Bradford’s Morton: The Lord of Misrule in Early New EnglandAnd this In Colonial America, Thomas Morton Took the Pure out of PuritanI did read ChatGPT and WikipediaPazuzu Algarad pics from Oxygen & Daily Mail Older pics in the public domain #Puritanism#TheGreatAwakening#SalemWitchTrials#PuritanBeliefs#PuritanLifestyle#PuritanValues#PuritanHistory#williambradford#thomasmorton#pazuzoalgarad#truecrime#historypodcast#truecrimepodcast#storytelling#podcastfinder Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

In the matter of the people of the state of California, first is Hortonthal James Simpson. Case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. I'm like, lucky, I could talk today because I couldn't talk yesterday. I sounded very gravely. Are you sick? Yes, I've been sick for over a week now.

Oh, God. Yeah, you might have had what I had that last, like, three weeks. Hopefully not. Yeah. Okay, well, I'll kick things off. Welcome to Doom to Fail, the podcast for me and Taylor. Just talk about how tired we are until one of us will eventually die. Yes. Not soon. Not soon, but who knows. Who knows? Who knows these days? Taylor is joining us from Las Vegas. I'm in Austin, as usual. I was just in Las Vegas, so we miss each other once again. We did. But we're going to see each other in Palm Springs. brings in about two weeks give or take so yeah Taylor how are you doing today good I just well I just drove here so it was like a four hour drive the kids did really good in the car it was just with three of us and I am yeah I'm good they're playing with my mom they brought all their toys they've already made a huge mess I've already eaten in a ton of snacks I don't know if you just like eat constantly at your parents house but like my mom's house I'm like I'm going to have for a snack so I've already

and it's have snacks. It's always carbs with my parents. My mom, since she retired, just bakes cakes and pies all day. And I'll get there and she's like, well, I just created a pumpkin cheesecake. Do you want to try? I'm like, well, that sounds unique. Yeah, I'll try that. And it's like, oh, and by the way, here's a chocolate cake as well if you want to try. It's like thing after thing after thing. You always gain weight when I'm at home. But I think that's supposed to happen. I think it's supposed to. I just had half a box of triscuits and some cheese and salami. So I'm ready to So yeah. Sounds amazing. So we have our two stories today that are red flaggy relationships.

So we're obviously going to be doomed to fail that nobody paid attention to. I'm on the true crime side. Taylor, you on the historical side. Who goes first this week? I keep forgetting. I think it's you. Me. Okay.

Yeah. Why don't you tell us your drink and then I'll tell my drink and then we can segue into the true prime. Cool. So this week I'm going to, well, I have a sore throat like I told you. So I really should be hydrating. I am hydrating. I'm drinking water in real life.

But my drink is like a watery ale from like a time when water was not available. So all you drank was beer. That sounds like my time to be alive. You know what I mean? When like water was like brown and like had malaria. So you just like drink beer. But it's not like you were drinking like a IPA all constantly. If we have any pathologists that listen to this show,

can please let us know if you can catch malaria by drinking it? I think you can. That's how you get malaria. It's like in the water. Or is that cholera? Colors in the water, malaria is in the mosquitoes. I think they have to hyperdermically. Yeah, there you go.

Color. Perfect. So my drink is a little bit unique this week because our person is kind of unique this week. My drink is going to be, it's got to be alcoholic. I'm going to make it a little bit alcoholic just for the hell of it. But it's, but it mostly is comprised of rabbits' blood mixed with vodka. Yeah.

So I don't actually know how well those blend together, but I would imagine that the rabbit blood would neutralize... Oh, you don't? I'm sorry. You don't know how well those go together? I have not. What kind of Somalié are you? I know, right? It probably would look like wine a little bit. I'm going to interrupt.

But I would assume that the blood would neutralize the harshness of the vodka, or the vodka might neutralize the harshness of the blood. I don't really know. I bet it would be really salty, though. I don't know what I think about blood, but I'm imagining it's like, you know, when you drink an Irish carbom, you have to drink it really, really fast where it curdles. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of one of those.

Okay. Well, great. I'm excited to learn. more about this because that's disgusting yeah listeners go ahead and pour yourself a nice steam and glass rabbit's blood and let's get going so the person i'm covering today his name is john alexander lawson taylor do you know what that is does not ring a ball right now okay you might better know him by the name that he legally changed to in 2002 pizuzu algerad i don't know who that is no way you don't know pizuzu i don't think so okay well well this i wasn't i said

i would remember that this gonna be a fun one okay i'm excited one thing about this case i found interesting is that the reports about what happened here seemed way way more focused on pizu as a person than the crimes he actually committed he's just like such a freak show like such an anomaly that people were kind of swept away by him as a person and because of that things like dates motives details around the crime even the ages of the victims were kind of hard to come by. So, for example, in some reports that I read, they say that the victims are 31 and 32 years old. Others say that they were 37, 36 years old. Some say he was arrested for accessory to murder in 2012, before he was arrested on first remurter charges. Others say that murder happened in

2020. So, like, details were kind of hard to come by. The only thing that's actually 100% for certain is the search warrant that I read, because that was generated by the police, obviously, and so does have hard dates on them. I'm going to get to the search warrant later on in the story. just highlighting the fact that this guy and his story are kind of hard to nail down exactly what happened and when they happen, but we're going to do our best here. Okay, cool. Given what I just said about what a character of this guy was, hopefully some of you guys have already heard of him.

If you have, you've mostly heard of him because of his appearance, his appearance being striking in the most nightmarish way possible. Okay, when should I Google him? Should I Google him now? Just wait, wait. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You yell me when.

I'll tell you when. There's so much to say about this guy, but I'll start by pointing out several red flags. So you're probably not going to like me saying this, Taylor, because you're dramatically more woke than I am. But one of the biggest red flags here I want to call out is stereotyping. So, Taylor, now would be the time I would like you to take a look at Pizzou's pictures. Pizzou is spelled P-A-Z-U-Z. And it don't say anything. When can I say something?

Did you see it? I did. Well, I see two and I have several thoughts. Why don't I ask you some questions, then you can share your thoughts. Okay. Let me ask you, when you look at a picture of that guy, you haven't heard his voice, you don't really know what his aura is, being in his presence, or, you know, whether, if you look into his eyes and you think they're window to the soul, which I know you don't, you have no idea what he's like. But just looking at his pictures, is that a guy you would want to spend anything? any time with. No, absolutely not. Would you want to do drugs with him? No. Oh, if I, I say no,

because I fear I would die because he does so many, he does harder drugs than I do. So is there any chance, if he invited you over to his house, you would go to his house with him one night? No, absolutely not. It would smell terrible. It would be, there'd be bedbugs. Okay, describe, describe what your thoughts are now. So I see, in some pictures, he has a shaved head and he has a lot of face tattoos which is like I'm actually whatever face tattoos are fine he does have a big tattoo it looks like on his arm it just says Satan which makes me laugh so that's hilarious but um also but then other ones he has dreadlocks I don't know if we're stereotyping but white men should not have dreadlocks it's gross okay um I'm going to per usual we're going to combat a little bit

on a specific topic you just called out which is face tattoos but let me get into the stereotyping piece of this I'm not like everyone should get face but I'm like, does not have been to the world. Sure. Continue. I'll continue and we'll decide that. My point around serious, so in today's climate and culture, it's not really super appropriate to say what I'm about to say,

which is that stereotypes and prejudices actually exist for a reason. They do. They're evolutionary. So as humans evolved into what we are today, the genes that were passed down were the genes of those who could immediately identify danger danger and had the ability to avoid it. So I read a chapter on this treatise, this is like thesis study on psychology. So the book itself is the Cambridge Handbook of the Psychology of Prejudices. The chapter I read on this was chapter two titled evolutionary approaches to stereotyping

and prejudices. So if you want to check that out, you can find it. You can go to the Cambridge's website and they publish all this stuff on their website. So you can actually go read it right there. And it really explains this concept. It is a lot of details in there and it breaks down prejudices and stereotypes into different categories like race, age, sex, kinship, stuff like that. But the simplest way I can kind of sum most of it up was this quote that I read there, which is, this is a quote, by viewing a particular individual as being like typical members of some group, one need not engage in more effort and lengthy attempts to understand him or her as a unique individual that's amazing well is that it is that end of that quote that's the end of that quote

that's on the end of my rant okay well if i'm if i may right now i feel like fair if i'm thinking about like january 6th insurrectionists i don't need to know their life to know the way i feel about them you know yeah um so yeah that makes sense to me and then also today and next week I'm going to talk a lot about the American experience and how we got here. And there is some of stereotyping involved. So the history of stereotyping involved in a way that I think connects. Well, we have a through line. Look at us.

That rarely happens. It does not. It happens all the time. Yeah, that's true. So all this is kind of evolutionary and we are by nature recoiled or drawn to certain people. And if you don't listen to that part of your brain that tells you recoil, you're basically going to end up like the people that we are talking about on this story.

So, John, one time, you remember Dan Walmsley, right? Yeah. Okay. So did I tell you how me and my ex-wife accidentally went to his house for like a open house? Yes. And then we like fell in love with the house. It was like, I forgot where it was. It was like Cypress Hill or something.

It was, it was in this, it was a part of LA that was definitely not gentrified, but it was like kind of almost close to being there. That time, it was something like 2016 or 15. And we have like in love with this house. but there's like I'm part of my complex next to it and this guy came out of the complex like directly next to the house guy in this truck that was parked in front of my car and he was just like covered in face tattoos and I was just like I'm not living here I don't give a shit with the house cause like I'm not living next to this dude and I don't know to your point like maybe this guy had a heart of gold I don't know but I just I don't need to know anything more about you

I don't need to dive into your soul like none of that yeah I mean if you have face tattoos you're not making the come talk to me yeah yeah like my general theory on it is like you chose to become a social outcast so like where's my obligation line trying to understand who you are so you take a look at this guy pizuzu which i'm going to describe which you just did covered in this nonsensical like prison tats like homemade tattoos on his face with dreadlocks as a white guy and we're going to get to this a little bit later he also shaved his teeth into points yeah But do you really need to any and he's like hey come on over to my house it's like let's do a bunch of Matthew I think why would you do that like it's so obvious red flag there's yes 100% one thing about face tattoos I have seen some beautiful like women like the Maori women who have beautiful face tattoos like indigenous face tattoos are cool um that's and then and then we're not I don't know I know we're not I just want to make it clear that's how we're talking about and then to actually when you Google this guy the first image is it says Pizzou Pizzou Algarad house debris removal. I'm clicking on it, but it's

pretty much like shovels of garbage. So yes, I would not go to that house. Yeah, we're definitely going, we're going into the house. We're not going into the house. But we're going to go into orders, but I'm not going to go into Orders house. Yeah. Yeah. So one thing I wanted to highlight here, again, this is not a love letter to prejudices. The same article that I just quoted, also there's a quote in there saying just because of behavior is an adaptation does not mean it's a adaptive, i.e. beneficial to the possessor in modern environments. So I'm not saying it's the best in the world, but again, if a guy who drinks rabbit blood and has face tattoos invites you over to his house, just say that as a sign to say no. So much has happened in the last 10 minutes. I forgot about

the rabbit blood. Yeah, there you go. Refill your steaming warm cup of rather than. I'm glad you brought that back. So the name itself, Pizzou, is actually from ancient Babylon. It refers to a spirit, which is oftentimes regarded as a demon who has the body of a man, the head of a lion or dog, depending on who you're talking to, is talons for feet, wings, and a scorpion's tail. So, Pizzouzzi was actually the demon that possessed Regan in the Exodus movies. That was, yeah, that was like the claim to fame for Pizzu. There's actually a ton of scholarly articles about Pazuzu's creation, the evolution, varying takes on how powerful the demon he was, so on and so forth.

You go to worldhistory.com, which is where I got a lot of my source in for. information on this demon, fictitious demon, that this insane person named himself after. His last name, the last name that he took, Al-Gurad, that's the Arabic word for Lord of the Locusts. All right. So that's the headspace. Individually, those are cool things. It could have been cooler if he didn't. I mean, I think maybe like disassociated from this person, they're cool.

I'm Google, I Google just Pizzou and you get that scary exorcist face. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Apparently, he was mostly a normal kid growing up. And around age eight is when his mom put him in some sort of a mental institution because he was acting up and acting out. According to one of their neighbors and an early babysitter of Pizzou, his mom was kind of a piece of shit who spent most of his childhood, leaving him alone to go on dates and was basically constantly drunk. that sucks so yeah

I can basically say she was a piece of shit if you I mean if you look at like how he turned out if you raise a kid like Pizzuzu who was normal by all accounts until basically the parent's separation and the mom going the route

that she went and instead you spent all your time pursuing male validation rather than providing like enrichment activities for your kids you're kind of a piece of shit like you're not like really doing your responsibilities as an adult

yeah and I mean like you can go on dates but you shouldn't leave your children alone and like abandoned them well he was asking out because you're just like abandoned yeah or just like totally abandoned them which we're all for if you don't want to take care of them yeah yeah yeah well at least you didn't kill them restaurant yeah yeah i mean a guess yeah who knows what's to do here it's a little complicated so i wrote this whole thing about so you basically touched on

everything i'm going to talk about here but i wrote all about his appearance again white guy with long dreadlocks i have no clue what the face tattoos are i looked at them for hours and I can't make any sense out of any of them. And one of them, the bald one that you pointed out, he also shaved his eyebrows, presumably to tattoo the fake eyebrow dots that you see on them.

They just look like random symbols. Like they're not tribal. He has nothing to do with indigenous. Well, no, yeah. Yeah, and then to your point, he has the word Satan in all caps tattooed on one side along the entire length of his arm, which like, I don't know,

that one's kind of cool, I think. that makes me laugh that's funny he was he actually was high on meth one day whenever he decided to file his teeth into points so there was that oh my god that's crazy that have you ever seen when people get veneers that they have to do that first have you ever seen that if you get like really like rich people if they get like really really fancy veneers first the dentist literally has to file down their real teeth and then pop the veneers and then over it and you're like you just lost your real teeth what is a veneer like um very very like a perfect tooth that you like put over your teeth so like if someone has like a really

perfect smile like it's not real you know it's like it's fake like it's when you have jacked up teeth basically yeah you get them fixed okay but to get them to get them like this really expensive veneers like getting it's like getting dentures but you don't need them yet just live with braces for a year yeah it's gross um oh also I guess this is not this is not a time for me to share this but I can invisible is not invisible I can see it everyone America I just want you to know right now if you're like oh I have invisible I know I can see it I can see it I don't really stare at people's mouths I wouldn't even know if someone it's impossible not to see it like makes some teeth look like they're fused together and it's full of spit and it's gross and I can

see it I mean I get you redoing but like just like let's not pretend it's visible keep going okay oh my gosh it's going to be five hour long episode I'm sorry I know I know I know I was writing my notes last night I have 24 pages of notes that I don't even know if I'm a story to tell so I'm just so excited to get to mind too so keep going okay okay we're gonna we're gonna soldier on okay so Pizzou lived in Clemens North Carolina which is a suburb of Winston-Salem and I did hear his voice and he does sound like a southern hillbilly we are going to right outside we're in Winston-Salem no we're not we are going to where Jay's but their wedding is in Asheville North Carolina. Yeah. I don't have the invite yet. You already have the invite? I have to save the date.

Okay. Okay, good. I thought that he deliberately uninvited me. He, like, told me he's engaged and then just, like, made a point not to send me the invite. So, yeah, going back to Pizzou, he's one of those guys who kind of like to free people out. So apparently after 9-11, he would dress as a jihadist, like, just one of those guys that wants to scare everybody. I think that's also partially why he went the whole satanic, demonic route, because in South Carolina, everybody loves, yeah. everybody loves Jesus and he just walks around like a psychopath apparently despite everything

I said about stereotypes a ton of people ignored the red flags and his house was apparently chalk full of kids who wanted to party and be in his presence yeah I kind of I kind of equate him to rescue him because you had this like dark vibe mysterious vibe to him and kind of reminded me a rest of you in a little bit and if you're in that if you're in that kind of person that's attractive to a certain point of time in your life. And so, like, being a kid, a teenager, wanting drugs. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was like an older guy, though. Like he was in his like 30s. Oh yeah. There's always that guy. And he's living with that guy.

And his mom lived in the house with him and like she was just like, he was like Cartman from South Park. Like you just like make his mom make him sandwiches and like go buy him beers. Like you like 33 years old. Like it was kind of. The meatloaf. yeah yeah i wrote down one of the guys who was interviewed was this guy named crazy dave adams who was one of his friends who would always go to his house i'm just paying a picture of like the type of

people that are there this guy's sitting on this like disgusting couch getting interviewed by vice he's holding a beer can in one hand while he's smoking a cigarette with his shirt off and he has all these just like trash tattoos crazy dave he was definitely fit fit the name he has the word insane in all caps tattooed like under his neck like that's a those are the people that were talking about hanging out of this house that's a thing yeah it's a look it's a look so i wrote down the house itself seemed to be its own entity anyone who went near the house would unanimously say it smelled awful and that people there were regularly peeing and taking shits on the floor in the open but his but his mom was there she had her own room and apparently she just did not leave that room right

she's also a bad mother she also she has her own shit going on it's like those moms who were like my son's my best friend and it's like you really need to yank the chain every now and then on your kid my son's my best friend but he's sixed well yeah that's slightly different so there was also obviously like they would all talk about like how he would just constantly slit the throats of rabbits or cats that he would find and pour the blood all over him or he would just like noose a cat and just hang it on a tree out like he was he was invested in this lifestyle yikes okay this is probably not going to be a surprise to any of you who've looked up this guy's pictures he had a serious serious problem with drugs and alcohol and he also was reported to have schizophrenia no and he was supposed to be on medication it's a smidge he didn't have a chance really yeah yeah he was fucked like he had no chance i mean he had schizophrenia that was mostly untreated and he was self-medicating by taking math after acid and alcohol, basically. Yeah, there's no chance.

Like, he needs professional help, and that does not sound like something that would ever have been, like, offered to him. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. So, like I said, the mom was in the house, and she, I watched an interview with her and, like, now way after the fact.

So, Pizzu's dad, spoiler alert. And now the mom, when you hear her talking, she's just so nonchalant about it. It's like, oh, he was just a crazy kid and this, it's like just dissonance i don't understand it yeah she would like she like laughed about how he like was kicked out of the second grade because he just stopped attending class it was funny like not graders don't do that you do that like he's driving himself to school and not going it's actually really a good point i didn't think about that you know like i mean like i get like a high

school or not going to school that's like on their own volition but a second grader can only go to school if you bring them to school yeah yeah that's that's actually a really good point um the house again all of it except the mother's room was just wrecked there was a there's actually a ton of footage of police body cams going inside the house i love this one of the officers on the body cam says quote this guy's got a bad case of whatever he's got which is like the most southern way of saying this guy's fucked up like he was just so nice about it you know what i watched this week that reminded me of that. Do you know the rapper Afro Man? Yeah. Yeah. I heard about this. Do you watch the video of the cops in his house? No, I didn't see it, but I heard about it. It's yeah, it's pretty

amazing. It's like he has his own security cameras. The cops went into his house to like find drugs and kidnapping victim's which makes no sense. And he was like, you know, and it's like, the song is like, are you going to help me fix my door? Because they like broke down his door. And then there's like one cop who's like looking at a cake and he like stops and looks at the cake again and like you wouldn't know who they were except the cops sued him because they're embarrassed because he used in the video right yeah yeah yeah and it's like you broke into his house for no reason and then um just like looked through all of his stuff and he's like did you find any children in my CDs because they're going through all his CDs it's really funny what a ludicrous I bet his house

was nice too it was so nice yeah yeah opposite of this yeah so the house obviously there were shit everywhere it kind of looked like an abandoned house with squatters that would be living there he had like a giant swastika painted on the living room ceiling like everything was just spray painted apparently he had a swastika tattoo also on his leg but again i don't even think he had any beliefs because i think he just did anything to shock people right it didn't it just wanted to like people have a reaction rampant untreated schizophrenia mixed with alcohol and drugs yeah no it's worth Donating that when the crimes that we're going to discuss here in a moment came to light, the city just leveled the house because it would have cost him a fortune to make it up to code and livable. So we're going to get into our second antagonist here, which was Pizzouza's girlfriend. Her name is Amber Birch. And she was present for at least one of the murders that and helped hide the body of the first victim, which we're about to get into. She kind of reminds me of like a lost kid, although I'm using the word kid sparingly here because she was 24 years old. But when she met Pizzuzzi, he was 35. So the age disparity was kind of a thing, I think.

Yeah. Amber would eventually plead guilty to second-degree murder, accessory after the fact, to first-degree murder, and robbery with a dangerous weapon, and was sentenced to 39 years. Wow. Look, I don't think that she's innocent, because I'm going to get into what they did together, but just choose your with wisely, you know? Yeah.

It's such a slippery slope. Like, okay, so my weird edge lord boyfriend beheads a rabbit in front of me. what's the whatever we're just going to bury a body next like it just feels like it turned into a very very slippery slope I mean then how do you yeah that's scary then or is it like are you like in a I don't know a thing like in like a spiral then then what happens I mean yeah well they were together for a long time because we're going to get into this but the crimes started they originated in 2009 and these people weren't arrested until 2014 so like they were in deep yeah

So getting into the crimes, again, details are a little hard to come by. We don't know a ton about the motivations for these crimes. Although the search warrant, once it was unsealed, did state something in there. I'll get into that. But mostly it's just random. It seems like it's kind of random. There could have just really not been a motive in this. We tend to look at this as a satanic and demonically possessed crime.

And just forget the fact that this guy was a drug addict and a schizophrenic. He could have made something up in his mind. like anything like he could have seen the guy on the couch and been like oh that's a that's that's jesus i got to shoot him you know yeah satan isn't real so i think that's also part of the part of the thing yeah exactly so he's making it up in whatever way that means you know there's making it up like intentionally to be like scare people or he's making it up because he's having a schizophrenic episode i think he's just doing it because he's anti-social yeah so in october of 2014, the remains of two individuals were discovered in Pazooza's backyard. The two were the bodies of

Joshua Welter and Tommy Walsh, who had both gone missing in 2009. So Joshua, again, the reports are different here. One of the reports said that he's 32 when he went missing. He went missing in July of 2009. Tommy was 31, and he went missing a few months later in October of 2009. Apparently Joshua was shot in the living room and dragged to the basement and Tommy was in the basement where he was shot and killed. So they were seemingly buried at the same time because our body was found in the same grave. So it's theorized that he took Tommy down to show him Joshua's body and then shot him once he showed him the body. Was Joshua done for months? Yeah.

Ew. Yeah. The search warrant is going to go into a lot of detail about what he did. But when it's, the house smells like it does, do you really notice a dead body running there for months? Yeah. Some random dude took a dump at the living room and yeah, you're probably going to pay attention to that first. Joshua's former fiance reported him missing in 2009 and specifically named Pizzou as who she thinks killed him. Apparently, this is the part that's a real curiosity with this case.

Apparently as early as 2010, the police had enough for a valid search warrant of the property. and they kind of almost sort of executed on it but not really it took another five years after this report was first brought to light and the evidence needed to search the house was realized that police actually went did a full in-depth search of the house it's worth noting that the search warrant itself was sealed meaning it would not be made public which is rare in and of itself but triply rare when the investigation of sentencing is complete so in 2017 is when the the first time the judge unsealed the original search warrant, which was from probably 2010. So it's been like seven years that it finally got unsealed. And that's where I went through when I read. And really what it talks about, what it shows is that they could have solved these crimes in months. Like obviously this guy's not a master criminal. He's clearly deranged and insane. Like he's not like he wasn't going to get away with this. And police just didn't do their due diligence. In August of 2009, less than one month after

Josh was a murder, a woman named Tarina Billings visited with the police and said that her father had visited Pizzou's house and observed a dead body in the basement. Oh my God. Yeah. The father, this is the part that how he tried to cover this up. The father told his daughter that the body was covered in a plastic tarp and had cat litter and chlorine around it to help with the odor. Both those things smell terrible.

Ugh. Yeah. He also was told by Pizzuzzi that he had shot the person. 10 times quote because he was a snitch it just seems like what you would say right like almost cliche he um he even he even knew that the body was buried in the backyard like he told him everything he told him every detail he needed to to get arrested and this woman relayed all of that to the police it's all in the war well it gets deeper it goes even worse it gets worse on that so a month later, they also got an anonymous crime stopper tip saying the exact same thing from like another

source. They don't know who it is, but it wasn't the woman who initially told them. So police go to the house and they do like a basic search and find nothing. They talk to Pizzou with not under not in custody. And he says, I didn't do anything. I don't know anything about this. You know, whatever. Apparently what happened was the police wanted to go get some like device that can identify objects underneath soils. They could. see if there's a body there. The university was using it and they decided they're just going to execute the warrant without it. But they just walked around the property. So they didn't actually notice anything because the house is dirty, whatever, but there's no body to be found because

they're all in the backyard underground. And they'd bury them like years before. Yeah, years before. So like the grass or the grass already born over and so on. So in 2011, Pazooza's mom finally goes to the sheriff's office and tells her that she heard a gunshot at her house and came down and saw Amber holding a rifle and Tommy on the ground, presumably dead. There's so much evidence that came to light around this. Like all these people are just going to the police like, please arrest this guy. Do anything. Oh my God. And they didn't do anything. So in 2014, that's when they finally came back to that original search warrant from 2010 when a woman named Dixie went to the police and provided a written statement. It was like 13 pages,

all details of how she basically helped Amber, the girlfriend, dig a grave and dump two bodies in the backyard. She even specified exactly where in the backyard the graves were dug. So it was at this point they finally executed the warrant. They showed up and they found Joshua and Tommy's obviously complete decayed bodies. Oh my God. Yeah. So obviously, Pizzuzzi gets arrested and that's kind of where the story ends.

what ended up happening was he ended up dying presumably by suicide while awaiting trial. Apparently, while he was at the first jail, which was in Forsyth County, it was reported by guards and inmates that he would keep biting himself with the sharpened teeth, trying to try and kill himself. And because this jail didn't have the facility to deal with some of like obvious extreme mental illness issues, they transferred him to another jail. And it was there that he was found unresponsive, completely bled out from self-afflicted wounds. But what's weird, is they never found anything that would have cut him. He had nothing on him. There was nothing that he could, like, there was no glass, there was no steel. Like, he just bled out. And they presume he just bit himself hard enough to rip. It sounds shady. His death sounds really shady. I don't know what that means. Yeah. It's crazy.

Yeah. I'm reading, yeah, I'm reading this, this Daily Mail article and it has, like, it interviewed one of us. friends and the quotes that it highlights are really funny like the the friend says it seems obvious now that he had mental health issues yeah yeah you think job it's obvious now if you just look at the house you can tell that that person is you don't even have to meet the guy just look at his house it's so funny that like you're not even mentioning the satanist stuff but like because that's like he's just doing it to be like edgy edgy but yeah like this article is like disturbing video of a Satan is home and you're like well whatever it's just like a dirty house with like I do see the swastika on the ceiling that is definitely bad but like I think that the Satan stuff is it's just like what I mean look like I've we've all met these people where there's such they devil's real and it's this and like they look at this guy and they's they just who gives a shit people can believe whatever they want to believe in it's just like this guy acted on things that were derivative of schizophrenia and acid and meth consumption like You probably would have done this if you didn't believe in Satan, didn't have a Satan tattoo and, like, didn't have a space tattoo.

Yeah, that's a, this is a, he, this is not, he's not doing great. But that's why so much of the story was, like, obfuscated, was hard to actually fully understand what, what really happened and with the motivations were. Like, I dug so deep to try and figure out what the motivations were. There's three things, three details that should be obvious that are not obvious. One, why did he do it in the first place? Yeah. If we could ever find that out. why did the police finally decide to execute on that search warrant when dixie came forward

instead of the previous three confessions of people that came forward and gave details of what happened to these people and then oh man i forgot what the third one was okay i forgot what the third thing was oh is death like why right how do we not have more details about what happened was dead but it all gets obfuscated is like crazy satanist did this thing it's like guys like no it's like mentally you know yeah that's crazy that i mean just it sounds like what a place to like be when like there's you know tons of drugs and people just like i don't know that's crazy yeah and yeah and why i don't even think of that like why are those two guys dead sounds like there's no good reason

not that there's ever a good reason to kill someone but like why are they why did he kill them and doesn't doesn't really say anything or why did she or if she did it it kind of seems like Joshua guy was like kind of like a homeless mooture but like you look at like crazy Dave and he looks like a homeless mooture too they all look like homeless mooters they're all like garbage fucking trash people like so but I mean that could be crazy Dave crazy Dave this guy but there's a vice did a great piece on this story that's worth looking at because they interview a lot more people involved in the case and you get a sense of who who was drawn to him you know so

So that's it. Wow. That's it. That's my story. Don't follow a white guy with dreadlocks and face tattoos with sharpened teeth to his house. Don't hang out with him. Unfriend on Facebook. Yeah.

Or like, be like, hey man, get your shit together and then give me a call. Yeah, no, don't listen to Taylor. There's no help for these people. You can be a little, you know, figure something out. Cool. Well, thank you. I had not heard of that. I can't live in.

I've heard of that. That's quite a thing. Yeah. What's his name before again? John Alexander Lawson. Hmm. That's a nice name. Yeah, yeah.

He looked like a normal kid. You look at his childhood pictures. Like it was... Yeah. But whatever is what it is. He's dead now. Yeah, he chewed himself to death, maybe. Maybe.

We don't know. This is mouthful of blood? I have more questions. That's gross. Well, I looked at the autopsy report, too. The autopsy report. I don't know why they would do this, but they actually like drew his tattoos. I did see that. I did. So he did have the swastika on his leg. I saw that.

And it's not like he had more wounds. It's like one. Maybe you have to do that. Yeah. So. And I think it also sounds like the, I guess to your second question, like it sounds like finally when Dixie went and it was like, they're literally right here pointing to the spot. They were like fine. Fine. We'll go look. Can we do the least amount of work humanly possible. Fine. I guess we have to you now. You know, it's like further shows the corruption of like the prosecution, the state. We're just like, we don't care for like some of the same things that like, you know, you're saying like these people are garbage people who cares maybe, you know? So you're saying I'm more like the prosecution in this case?

I don't know. I'm just saying it sounds a little bit like that. That's fair. That's fair. I mean, I've- The stereotype. We're talking stereotypes. That's true.

Nothing could possible I go wrong. Yeah, what's happened to me? all right i'm going to go to mine let's hear it all right i forgot where you're drinking already oh like a watery ale instead of water cool okay so to transition over to history this story and next week's story are like an attempt to somehow talk about america and like how it got so weird like it's always been weird but like now things are really bad like good versus evil bad so for this one cousin oh yeah actually okay this is like the origins of some of our stereotypes is actually also what we're talking about as well as I'm also put the word stereotype in my notes too so talking about stereotypes in a

different way my cousin Lindsay who's the smartest of my cousins suggested this and also her birthday was yesterday so happy birthday Lindsay you're the best and I also wrote this very very late last night and I wrote in all caps highlighted warning this story contains 843 tangents so it's a lot tangents in here. This is kind of a ruling story. It's like story time with Taylor what's happening right now. So come back with me in time to the 1600s. Someday, I might talk about the Salem Witch Trials. It's not today. They happen like 50 years or so after the story we're going to talk about today. And I'm going to talk about Thomas Morton and William Bradford. One's fun and one is not fun. And they sort of represented two different

Americas. And Lindsay and my cousin called them that they're a minder of a hairy and a Draco, which I think totally makes sense. Like one's fun, one's not fun. What's Drakeo? I'm from Perry Potter, Draco the Bad. Oh, Drackel Malvoy. Yeah. So I also like to introduce a new segment to the show. It is called, I already have children and I will have no more. Here are some names I forgot to consider when I was having them and I give them to you. You're welcome. I'm excited. I'll I'll tell you off line why I'm not, but go ahead. Two names that I forgot to name my children from the Salem Witch Trials are cotton and increase from the who are the Mathers who are part of the Salem Witch Trials.

I just like love those names so much. And they're just like so weird. They're both bananas. Like cotton is like not a name. An increase is like a verb. It only works because of the Mather's part. It's so great. Cotton Mather.

Is it Mathers? Yeah. Matters. Mathers. M-A-T-H-E-R-S. Yeah, yeah, M-A-R-S. Yeah, yeah, M-A-R-R-S. So, so many times it stops making sense. So I have two places to start for some contacts. One, Salem, which is, we'll talk a little bit about that,

and then the whole area of, like, Massachusetts and this time, like this is, like, the beginning of English people coming over to America. So I'll start with Salem, even though it's not what we're talking about, talk about it a little bit, because it's something that, like, we learn in America very early. Like, we learned this story, like, really early. in school we love it it's like super fun we watch the movie or a play of the crucible we think about how cool it is you know i i don't know being a teenage girl in america i feel like you think about this all the time when you're like in that time we'll also hear that maybe it's like ergot the um fungus

that can make you crazy and it wasn't um some people might think it was god it wasn't but the feeling that i get that i empathize with with the salem witch trials is the feeling of like being a teen girl and being like, won't something cool happen ever? Could something cool happen? Could something have happened to these girls? Like, couldn't something cool happen? But the answer's no. Like, this doesn't happen.

And I remember, like, thinking about the Salem Witch Trials and, like, this period of time. A couple years ago, there was a new book written about it. And I was really excited about it. And it came out, but it was awful. It was, like, unreadable. It was, like, really bad. So if you do want to read anything about it,

read the Shirley Jackson, kind of short essay on it. But essentially, just to, like, put some context around Puritans and the Salam Witch Trials, what happened to them? is Puritans are boring. They suck. Life was hard. And they make it a hundred times harder by being boring and mean. So the girls were told again and again that they had no purpose. They were lonely. They were bored. They had no future. They saw women who were widowed begging door to door. They saw old women alone and dirty, poor and hungry. They didn't want that. They just wanted something to happen. And if you just pray all day, nothing happens because that's not real. So they felt

disappointed and betrayed by life. So they made shit up. They wanted to be touched. They wanted to be noticed they wanted to do something that moved any needle before they were expected to be married and have 45 babies and die in childbirth like that's what happened but it's still fun to talk about it and think about how crazy everyone got like the crazy mass hysteria and so many people died you don't think or got had anything to do with it no um there would have been other things that happened as well it was not like a one symptom thing it's something like other things would have happened that did not happen so it was not that okay it was just girls meeting attention but yeah but it's still fine like I love thinking about it I think it's a great a great story of great piece of our history and then thinking about so there's like that is in the background like people believe in witches they believe in all this stuff Massachusetts and they say this in last podcast when they talk about the sailing witch trials but like Massachusetts is creepy in like the woods and the dark you know have you been there like in like a big northeastern woods so I haven't been there but I remember we discussed it I forgot which case it was maybe it was the Murdof

where I discuss, like, the opposite of Southern Gothic is American Gothic, which is, like, the northern version of that, which is awesome. Like, I think I love that aesthetic. You too. It's really creepy. It's cool. Like, the, um, did you see the witch? That movie? I did.

Yeah, so, like, picture like that. Like, I always, I love the part in, like, the very beginning when they're leaving the, um, like, the settlement and the gates are closing, and you just see, like, everyone's covered in mud and it's raining. And there's like a Native American who walks by and everyone just looks miserable. So like that's what kind of happening. I remember in time in high school, like I went to Massachusetts with some friends and we saw the Blair Witch Project and like lost our minds. And then like we went to our friend's house and these dudes were like telling a ghost story about the woods. And like I thought I was going to die. Like I screamed for hours.

It was like super fun. And like that's what the woods are scary. So we're like a scary time. I wanted to like wear all black and a witch's hat. But my headphones wouldn't work with that. So I didn't do it. But it's witchy. We're witchy in a fun way.

So I also want to mention that every Thanksgiving. I like to yell about how the Puritans left England because they sucked. Like we were told in America in school that they left for religious freedom. And at least when I was little, I assumed that that bent or I was told or I believed that it meant you could be whatever religion you want. And America was a melting pot and it was awesome. I don't feel like that's what they're doing at all. And that's not what's happening today either. we know it's not true it's just christians who want to be the only religion so blah blah blah so

that's the place that we're in it's dark and creepy you know we're about to hit the witch trials in a few in like a few decades so people are like have their very very puritan um at the moment here's this relationship it helps really shape the american story of like two different americas so we're in the early 1600s there's thomas morton he's the fun one he was a lawyer and a who arrived in 1624 from England. He settled in an area called Merrimount and established a trading post there. He was free thinking. He supported Native American rights, which put him at odds with some of the Puritans.

So he was born in 1579 in Devonshire, England. He went to Oxford. He sailed to Newfoundland in 1612 to start a fishing colony. and he moved to Plymouth where he became a fur trader in like 1613. So he had his own by, you know, the 1620s, he has his own little village. Like he's not like in charge of, but he lives there called Marymount. And as fun there as it can be in this time to live, if that makes sense. So dire and grim and awful.

Yes. Yes. In 1625, he wrote a book called New English Canaan that described his experiences in America and criticized the Puritans for like being intolerant because they are they were there so the other person in the story william bradford he's not fun he was a leader of the plymouth colony he was a governor of plymouth for like 30 years which is like the famous one and he if someone might say like oh that's the you know good american values but like no he was pretty awful and he's also this very much a slitherin like there's lots of capes and he's not any fun I mean, you're kind of describing a pretty cool guy, though. I mean, he's not fun, though. I know, but I would like to wear a cape and... I 100% support capes.

You can definitely do that. So he... So just some facts, some numbers about William Bradford. He was born in 1590 in Austrofield, England. He became part of the separatist movement, which ties back to England being with the Church of England. He didn't want... He thought that was corrupt, which we know it is. It was because it was made for King...

Henry the 8th to be able to divorce and kill his wives. But Bradford, this is cool. So he escaped to Holland to escape religious persecution. So this is part of the American story that we hear where like the peer trans are being persecuted in England. And they had to leave. So they went via Holland and he ended up flying sailing to America on. What's the most famous ship that sailed to America? The Mayflower, Santa Maria.

The Mayflower. Okay. He felled over on the Mayflower. There was three, right? No, you're thinking the Nina, the Penta, and the Zanda Maria. Those are Christopher Columbus. So ridiculous. Fars, you were born in England.

Better. So he came on the Mayflower, which is cool. He was the governor of Plymouth, which is like the famous colony. He had a common course system. So like there was like communal farming. and property ownership, which sounds a little socialist, but he was kind of like a stern ruler of Plymouth. So he and William Bradford didn't get along from the start. And in 1627, he goes over and arrests Morton and dismantles his trading posts because he didn't like what he was doing. So they're

just like, they're like two like kind of rival towns like living next to each other. So here's the year where the big fun versus not fun battle happens between these two. So it's. So, In 1628, there's a May Day celebration. Do you know what May Day is? That was a Canadian thing. Is that when their prime minister is born? Can I make that up? Do we not celebrate Justin Trudeau's birthday?

I totally don't know. I mean, you don't celebrate the current president's birthday. Maybe they have a prime minister day. I have no idea. Canadians, let us know. So May Day is now a holiday for workers' rights, but it's in pre-Christian Europe so a long time ago it was the beginning

of summer and fertility a time for feasting and dancing winter sucks and I feel this like you just want to be happy and have it be warm finally so do you know have you ever seen a may pole it's like a tall wooden pole and you do like a dance around it like did you ever see where would I see this like in what

situation would I be exposed to this? Did you see midsummer? Yeah so like they do it in there I think so it's like a big pole and you have like ribbons and then you like do a dance around it and as you do the dance a ribbons tie on the pole. It's very pretty. It's like a spring festival. And then, of course, the Christians were like, make it about Jesus. So it became about like devotion and prayer. There's the May Queen, which is like what Florence, Florence Pugh was in midsummer. And so, I don't know,

I remember this very late last night, but I wrote, have you read any books or seen midsummer to anyone? So just like that's what we're looking at. Hey, Taylor, can I interrupt you for a second? Do you think that maybe it's a good idea if you put that jug of milk behind you in the fridge instead of letting it sit outside by the window? It's not milk. Could you imagine? First of all, it says it's just filled water. It's a mom's ironing water.

I see. Okay. Just checking. Why would I just have a gallon of milk in here? I thought maybe you forgot and you can't see it, but I can. So, oh my God, whatever? I was just like drinking a glass of milk. It's almost as gross as rabbit's blood.

It's, can imagine it's gross. Okay. So it's 1628. It's May. You can assume the winter's been awful. Morton, the fun guy, and his followers, celebrate May Day with like a huge party. There's drinking, dancing, merrymaking. This is a quote that was on Wikipedia. It says, they set up a Maypole, drinking and dancing about it many days together, inviting the Indian women for their consorts, right? Dancing and frisking together, like so many fairies or furies, rather, and worse practices. As if they had a new revived and celebrated the feasts of you Roman gladys flora, or you ye beastly practices, if ye mad, Bacchus, like the god, you know. Anyway, it was rowdy. Bacchus is that? That's the god.

Of wine. Of wine, okay. Yeah, it was like wine, a lot of drinking, a lot of just like sex and not Puritan things. So it sounds super fun. And I, there's always like something in history that would be fun to like go back to. This feels something that's like not known as well as like,

you know, going to like a big battle or something, but I think it was super fun to go back to and be like, this party is super fun. It's like, you know. Yeah, like Coachella when we're in Palm Springs. It'll be just kind of almost like that. So imagine that with like Puritan stare at them, which is exactly what's happening in America right now.

So yes. And I also like love, well, I was thinking about like, what if I was there, like, what would it be like? And also wanted to, if I haven't told you before, we did one Christmas in Colonial Williamsburg. And it was awesome. And like I love like doing immersive history. There were a lot of capes.

and they have like join these activities and like went to like a ball and learned this like dance like line dance or whatever and I was dancing with someone like some like actor you know and he was like did you hear that Washington is going to speak later today in the town square and I was like that is so fun that is so fun I you know one thing I never talked about is when I was a kid I used to love going to civil war reenactments those are my favorite thing because they would go so in detail like they would have like the little shitty tents and there'd be like a pot of stew over a fire and it was just so much yeah it was really good that's so fun i remember um in brooklyn they do like a reenactment of like a revolutionary war fight and um i met someone that was dressed like

benjamin franklin that's a picture in our slack is me and the benjamin franklin because i was so excited i was like this is awesome it's just like weird old man but i was like this is so fun oh my god that is benjamin franklin yeah yeah it's very very fun so so they're so about this over in in plymouth that they go over and they arrest arrest morton for having this big party and they give him a trial and they're going to send him back to england but instead of like giving him a ticket back to england they just maroon him on an island and wait for someone to pick him up which is like be fun if you have an axe with you and like you know some survival tools and water would be cool but he did get picked up and he went back to england and then the colony the community

of Marymount lasted about a year without Morton but then it collapsed without him as like kind of their leader so the puritans kind of took over and like they kind of took up for the rest of the land so I'll tell you a little bit more about what happened to them later but really what this is is like this is a story of we've barely England people have barely even been here for like a couple years and they're already this huge clash between like the old world and the new world so there's like a new world where we're going to be more free and be more, more creative and, like, more, you know, not so strict and religious. And then there's this old world that the, that the Puritans are trying to replicate in, in the new world. But the whole thing is, like, the old world never

existed. Like, there is no, like, perfect Puritan world. And so they were trying to do that, and, like, nothing nostalgic is true. So it's, like, kind of a, whatever, they're trying to do something that was, like, almost impossible, which is why there's, like, so much conflict. So there's, like this is like a story of the conflict between individuality and being more diverse and more tolerant and then not being like really religious well that's our i think that's like our interpretation of it so what was the actual what did they think they were fighting about they were fighting about this big party and being like not being as religious as them that's it yeah they were offended by the party they called it ungodly okay that's kind of yeah that's like

you're just saying you're invited that's the problem your problem is eating invited it's a good point also everyone i just my shoes just squeaked on the mat underneath my feet that was not a fart just so everybody's clear if that did pick up in the mic which i don't know if it did i'm just gonna flag that somebody knows that's so funny so yeah so you can just like use this story as like a manifestation of that old versus new super religious versus a little more lax like still religious but like not as like strict and in puritan which is like a word we use be used as, you know, an adjective. So, you know, Morton was the new world, individualism, tolerance, freedom.

Bradford was the old world, religion, social hierarchy, conformity. So in 1628, Morton does go back to England. He returns a year later, and they arrest him again because they're like, we told you to leave. They like found him somehow. He had 1629, like, go anywhere else. But they catch him out of Massachusetts, so we could never go back to Massachusetts again. And then he ends up going back to England and coming back and trying to make a colony in Maine. So Morton goes back and forth a few more times, a couple of failed ventures.

He either died. I got two conflicting stories. One said he died in England at 64. Another said he died in Maine when he was 71. So either way, he never went back to Massachusetts and didn't really contact with the Puritans again. And Bradford died in 1644, which is about 40 years before the Salem Witch Trials in Plymouth at the age of 67. he just continued to like be the leader of Plymouth and continue to have it be really strict which as we saw with Salem continued to be kind of the way that people acted and lived in in that part of the colonies for a long time after what's the stereotype I think it's a stereotype of like a not fun really strict religious that like I am really like offended by you know and then I think maybe the other way they could see a stereotype of like someone who is having being like a little bit more fun being like ungodly and maybe like of the devil which is like

we get to kind of like later with with witches and stuff like if you're not doing exactly what I tell you to do and conforming then like you must be in league with the devil interesting yeah I um I don't know if it's like an Austin thing necessarily I don't think I really exposed to much in LA it's been most mostly here where the whole like witchy vibe that some women have here it's like awesome like i love that whole it's so fun it's so fun oh my god i love it i mean i told you all those crystals and all the stuff that i keep buying those are all these witches markets like they call them witches markets and you go there and it's just yeah it's a bunch of groovy people just living their life and like it's it's i think that some of them do like believe the stuff that they say

but in large part it's like it's like having a rent fair it's like they just want to have a good time and pretendly they're in an old timey you know moments and this sage it's going to poured off evil and it's like I have fun believe see that's like with like that has whatever yeah if you want to like burn stage in your house or if you want to pray to make things better I don't give a shit my problem is when you ruin other people's lives because of your beliefs you know like and I think like witches like you're awesome witchy ladies like they're not ruining anybody's life they're just burning some herbs and like I like I had to you know like everyone I had 45 mental breakdowns during 2020 and I did buy some spell books you know I was like

I'm going to start bearing stuff in the backyard and like protecting my house and like doing these things and like that seems fun you know like why not I'm gonna I'm gonna look this up real quick because I can't remember it off top of my head I did get a book that was absolutely disgusting that you should look at because it was free books and reading this is the least used part of of my Amazon account. Okay, so, damn, where's the... The silent part of the episode. If there's any Puritan names that you wish you'd name your children,

please give us an email at june to fill a pod at gmail.com. I've already called cotton and increase, but there's got to be more. Goody? Do you want to put the word goody in for your daughter's name? Have you thought about that? Send me an email. I thought about it. We should talk about it more.

I mean, no, that's why I can't find this. there's a book that I got it was it was Alistair Crowley's son who became like a super lame version of Alistair Prowley himself on all these books of spells

that you could do and they were like disgusting it was let's just say there was a lot of like leaving bodily fluids out in the open so much of it was that

it was just like this guy like it like male bodily fluids yeah we can say that or yeah like it was if i wasn't positive that he believed in the things that he was saying it sounded like recipe books for pesuzu algarad like it was exactly it was really really bad it's so funny um yeah i think our stories are super similar because i think we're in like creepy like east coast woods and people are just like, whether or not, like, Zuzu's schizophrenia had some to do with it, which I assume that it did. Like, it's that idea of being like, when will something happen, you know? Like, when will something happen to me? And then, like, I have this terrible childhood and, like, I want something to happen.

Let me be provocative with this. And then, like, in colonial America, some people are like, maybe we finally have the chance to make something happen and to, like, do something different and to, like, have some free thought. And the puritans are like, no, it's not where we're. here and then I just think it's so it's a more think about it the more like of a big deal it is of a larger problem thinking that like when I was younger I definitely was told like we're here because people wanted to practice whatever religion they wanted and we wanted to be you could be whatever you wanted in America and that's not true you know and like that's not but that was never true but like I don't know why I thought with that for a while come here my daughter just

keep in look what she has flow I flow did you get that did that a lion what is that how do you make it oh they're having a there's like a perfect sign mom's house and there was a clowns got a well who made that then a balloon person i'd rather that than a clown there's a lot of finger pointing happening off screen very cool cool balloon animal break very cool very very you know but you know what i mean i feel like you can come it out but you know but you know what i mean i think it's like it's it's and now we're in this time in in America today where there's this Christian rights movement that's like trying to destroy public schools and destroy publicly funded things so that everybody has to pay to go to a Christian

school so they can pick up what books people read and like just why I'm so well I don't have to pay attention to any of this stuff I just live in my little bubble you can't you cannot live in your bubble you live in America you're going to find that something that's going to happen to you you want paying attention to everybody else just tell me what's a vote for it I don't like you tell me I don't I don't want to pay attention to politics anymore I don't want to pay attention on what's going on in the world just you tell me what to do

perfect okay yeah something tells me to get kicked out of Texas but as my first thought was you should move out of Texas but okay we'll talk about later I was surprised you even convinced Blair I am gonna I mean I'm gonna wait Blair sorry I'm gonna wait until you're past having an infant

but we should talk about using a daughter in Texas. I'm sure you've thought about it. Blair's very smart. She can, she knows. Trend to the math. Cool. Well, we'll go ahead and pause recording. Thank you everyone for listening. Yeah. Thank you for the suggestion, Lindsay, for this. And thanks everyone who sent us things.

Yeah, absolutely. And I'll subscribe all the things. YouTube has a lot of views, which is super cool. We got a comment, but it was from an account called by YouTube followers. and I was like, well, I'm not going to buy YouTube followers, but thank you for your interest. That was my dog shaking and her collar ringing. That was not me making that sound just now.

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