Doomed to Fail - Ep 160: Santa's history + Real life Reindeer Games

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

Happy & Merry! Today, let's talk about Santa, old St. Nick, Father Christmas, etc. Then a quick true crime story from the heyday of bank robberies - 1927. In Texas, 4 banks were robbed a week! So, rec...ently pardoned by Ma Ferguson, robber Marshall Ratliff decides to join the fun. On December 23rd he enters a bank, dressed as Santa, what could possibly go wrong? https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/11604398/george-emory-bedfordhttps://texashillcountry.com/santa-claus-bank-robbery-past/ Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's a matter of the people of the state of California versus Hortonthal James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Uh-oh. Let's try that again. Hello, Taylor. How are you? Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:00:23 How are you? Are you naked? I can only see the top of your head. I just wanted to. Okay, great. You're not. Just wanted to make sure. They'll be really strange.
Starting point is 00:00:29 after 15 years of friendship. Yeah, no, it would be, it wouldn't be great. No, no, I think that'll be the end of the podcast, actually. Hi, welcome to doomed to to fail. We are the podcast that brings you history's most epic disasters and notorious failures twice a week, every week. And I am Taylor, joined by the clothed of ours. Fully, fully clothed.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Should we announce that we're going to take a two-week break? for the holidays? We can do that now. Yeah, we're going to take a break for the holidays and we will be back then in the first week of January. I think we deserve it. I think we deserve it.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And Taylor and I are going to put our heads together as part of this little break come up with some cool, fun ideas for the podcast going forward and so I'm very, very excited for that. But yeah, that's kind of all I got. I did just Oh, I just picked up a book on
Starting point is 00:01:33 from the library to read for what I want to do in January and it's 14 hours long that's what I'll be doing between now and then but at double speed it'll be seven hours I'm listening to Wicked
Starting point is 00:01:45 right now it's pretty good they book Nice, nice Should we go ahead and hop in? Sure I think I'm going first right? I think I am but it doesn't really matter Okay you go first
Starting point is 00:01:56 I'd rather you go first Okay, great. I don't think anyone cares. So no, my God, where did I even put my stuff? Okay. So as we head into the holidays, I did want to do this a little bit last year and I didn't get around to it because I think we just like took a break last year, but like we didn't announce it. We just like, oh my God, we're tired. So this year we're announcing it. But I have been watching Christmas horror movies. Just wanted to bring that up. Love, love, love the genre. One of the coolest genres. Oh, my God. So I've watched some, like, 80s slashers that are, like, dumb, but, like, good. Black Christmas? Yeah, I just watched Black Christmas.
Starting point is 00:02:37 That's on my list. I was going to tell you. I wrote Oves, very good. I watched, it's a wonderful knife, which it's, like, as new, it was stupid. But it was fine. Jonathan Long's in it. Do you know who that is? No.
Starting point is 00:02:50 He's like, he was in Jeepers Creepers. He's, like, a couple other things. Oh, you mean Justin Long? yes Justin Long okay yeah I know that is I'm so sorry America I just think he's so annoying and he's like plays annoying characters but like he just like his face is just like good ways of shit I love him
Starting point is 00:03:05 maybe he's just like a really good actor and like he plays annoying characters and then I get annoyed I also ran into him when I was in Hollywood I was waiting for I was at this one small diner across the Scientology Celebrity Center you know the big mansion and I was waiting in that little deli they have there and I was waiting for the bathroom and he came out and I just like sat there and stared at him and I didn't go in the
Starting point is 00:03:24 bathroom I was like did that just happen that just launched walk by me did you have to have to the bathroom yeah yeah I wasn't stalking him I was like there
Starting point is 00:03:33 I was waiting for him to come out of the bath or I was waiting for someone that's funny he I've also watched some compilations which are just like so bad but like good
Starting point is 00:03:43 you know the ones with like bad actors doing like 10 minute little stories of Christmas there's so many of them on Shutter it was just like 15 stories in one movie
Starting point is 00:03:53 you know what I mean yeah so Anyway, it's watching those. They're fun. And I wanted to talk about Santa for a little bit. And it's funny that you said that I looked like I was dressed like Santa right now because I kind of am. So this was deliberate.
Starting point is 00:04:09 No, I actually did not think that this looked like a Santa sweatshirt, but I see that now. Got it. And it's very obvious. It looks like I could be wearing a Santa shirt. So I want to talk about Santa. And then I want to talk about a time when Santa robbed bank. This is going to be fun. A little true crimey with Santa.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So here's some stuff I learned about Santa, just today in Wikipedia. Father Christmas and St. Nick are not the same person, which I was surprised by. They, like, turned into the same person, but they didn't start as the same person. In the Middle Ages, et cetera, in Europe, Christmas Tide was celebrated, which was the 12 days between December 25th and January 5th. And who knew the 12 days of Christmas was like really a thing that had to do with Christmas. religion. Yeah, I don't know that. So those are those are the, I think it's Advent. Those are the 12 days of Christmas during that time, Jesus' birthday, merriment, et cetera. In 567, it was called Advent. Oh, it turned into being called the Advent, Advent, Advent. Am I saying that right? Advent.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Advent. Wait, what God turned into being the Advent? I'm actually. Christmas time, like the 12 days of Christmas and Christmas time was also called the Advent during that time. Oh, that's why, okay. So the advent calendar is based on this. I think so, but then I don't understand why my advent calendar is all of December if the 12 days of Christmas were the 25th or the 5th, and I did not dig any deeper into that. All good. But remember how we talked about calendars and time
Starting point is 00:05:41 and how we should talk about that eventually as in episode? Because in 567, the Romans had to do some stuff because people were becoming Christian and they had to be like, okay, we're going to fit this into this, and it kind of moved around the holidays. So you give gifts at Christmas time because of the wise men giving gifts to Jesus. And Father Christmas, which is like from the UK and Europe, is the personification of Christmas, which is like different than Santa. Of course, the Puritans tried to ban Christmas in the 1600s and they managed to do it for 15 years at one point. They totally abandoned because it was fun.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Because Puritans are not fun. It was a little because it was not fun. Yeah, because it was like, you are having to. much fun during this time when we're supposed to be thinking about Jesus, so cut it out. And I'm pretty sure that, like, when we talked about the William Bradford story a long time ago, I think that they tried to do it in Plymouth, too, to get rid of Christmas because it was too much fun. And they don't want people to be having any fun. So, but it came back in obviously the Victorian era. They loved it. They loved all, like, the decorations and having parties and all of that.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And eventually it doesn't matter because Father Christmas and Santa, clause kind of merged together into like one myth person who brings gifts and is kind and is around during this time of year. The St. Nicholas, who is St. Nicholas that is the person who Santa Claus is supposed to be from, St. Nicholas of Myra was born maybe on March 15th, the year 270. He was of Greek descent and lived in Turkey. What do you say maybe? because who the fuck knows? All this is written like years after he died. Oh, so he was a real person, though.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yes. Okay. Yes. So I'm kind of going, we did Father Christmas as the personification of Christmas. Now we're going to do Santa Claus, but Santa Claus was started as St. Nicholas, who was a real person, and he's a saint. And he was a saint, and he was a saint. And then he probably, like, perform miracles and stuff. That's how he get to be a saint, which we've talked about.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Some of the things that he did, well, he was called also Nicholas the Wonder Worker. because he used to do stuff to help people. He is the patron saint of sailors, merchants, archers, repentant thieves, children, brewers, pawnbrokers, boymakers, unmarried people, and students in various cities and countries around Europe. I should know this, but does that mean that if you are one of those classifications, you should pray to him or that he, like, what does that mean? I think you should pray to him and, like, ask him for stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Because, like, God's busy. Okay. Please someone write in, because I'm positive that Taylor's representation of God is busy is probably not actually what it means. I mean, either that, he's just, like, not paying attention to anything. Or just not paying attention.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But if you know, for sure, right in, please. If you were in charge of God's calendar, please let us know. So some stuff that the real estate Nicholas did, that's legend, but maybe true, I don't know, is he saved some girls from being, like, sold into sex slavery by putting sacks of gold through their window so their dad could have a dowry for them and then they could save them. There's a renaissance painting about this. It's in the
Starting point is 00:09:03 Vatican that you learn about if you go to art history school. At one point, they say he calmed a storm at sea. He resurrected three children that were butchered to make into like meat pies because it was a time of famine. He brought the children back to life. And my favorite thing that he did is he chopped down a tree that was possessed by a demon that's pretty cool what did the tree do I don't know and like maybe he's the only person
Starting point is 00:09:29 brave if I have to try to chop it down because that feels like that's like a good solution this time period sounds like it would be kind of fun I don't know what else you're supposed to do so after St. Nicholas died his bones were put in a church in Myra where he's from but later
Starting point is 00:09:45 they were stolen during the crusades and like moved around So that's the St. Nicholas that eventually turns into Santa Claus because the Dutch called St. Nicholas Cinterclass, because that's, I don't know, that's what they called him. And that sounds more delightful than St. Nicholas anyway. So in the Netherlands and up in that area, Cinterclass is St. Nicholas, who brings you toys, if you're good, all those things. And he is an assistant named Zvartapit, which is, he has an assistant named Zvartapit, which, which means Black Pete, who's essentially just like a helper in Blackface. And they have to stop doing that. I feel like I'm listening to Dwight Shrewd describe his culture. So now Black Pete is a chimney sweep and has like a little bit of ash on his cheeks. And he is no longer a person in full blackface. That is more appropriate.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah. So now let's talk about, but Cintra Claus up in the Netherlands, he wears red robes. so our Santa Claus is essentially like from America the first time Sinter Claus from the North was called Santa was in the US press in 1773 so that's when they they turn Sinter Claus into Santa Claus during that time and he still like already has like the he like bring his children things like oranges and pennies you know on Christmas there's a couple things to kind of like turn him into the Santa that we know today
Starting point is 00:11:15 he in 1821 a poem first mentioned a sleigh the night the night before Christmas was the night before Christmas that poem was written in 1823 that describes him as having that that belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly the first time you hear that he's kind of kind of fat and then in 1863 a Harper's Weekly magazine has him wearing an American flag and talking to the troops during the Civil War you can buy a copy of that magazine for $750 on eBay. Sorry, he's wearing the American flag? Yeah. That's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It's kind of fun. El Frank Baum, who wrote The Wizard of Oz, wrote a book called The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus. And Santa also shows up in the book The Road to Oz as one of Queen Osmos' friends. And she, like, has all her magical friends over. He's one of them. And, of course, the 1930s Coca-Cola Santa that everybody knows of.
Starting point is 00:12:13 They didn't invent the idea of using Santa for marketing, other things had done that before them, and he'd worn running right before then, but that was like a really popular one. So, and then just kind of like morphs into the Santa that we know now where he's like in a million movies and everywhere and at the mall. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:12:30 One more aside. Rudolph was thought up in 1938 by a man named Robert L. May as a gimmick for the Montgomery Ward Department Store. So he wanted, they were giving away books to children at Christmas time. And so they decided to make their own book. and he created this for them. He said that he was, Montgomery Ward is from Chicago. He was in Chicago looking over Lake Michigan,
Starting point is 00:12:54 and it was really foggy, and he was like trying to think of a story for this book. And he said, quote, a nose, a bright red nose that would shine through the fog, like spotlight. So that's when he got his idea to have Rudolph have his nose. And then I have the most exciting news for you of ours. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:13:13 our boy Rudolph the red nose reindeer will be in the public domain in 2034 that is going to make some amazing horror so hopefully we live until then because that's going to be fucking amazing and I can't wait so it seems like that's the secret to amazing fun horror movies is yeah like domain access absolutely so I cannot wait for the Rudolph the red nose reindeer blood and honey Flooding gifts. It's going to be so good. That's just a little bit history, Santa, Father Christmas, all of that. Real quick, before you move on to the actual real story. Yeah. Did you do any research on Crampus? No, and I know that I could have.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I actually have a scary Christmas book that I'm going to bring with me on our Christmas travels to read to my kids because I bought it because it's like scary folklore, but I didn't do my crampus stuff. I should do that. I did watch some like crampas parades that are always really fun because it's really scary. people get really into it. All good. Just curious.
Starting point is 00:14:15 There's a, there's a, crampus movie starring, I can't remember the name of the guy from community, the comedian. But anyways, there's a movie on Netflix called Crampus,
Starting point is 00:14:24 and it does look like, it's on the rotation for Christmas War movie. I think I've seen it, but I need to bring that out. He was in, he was also in, is it,
Starting point is 00:14:35 is it Joel McCall? Yes, yes. He was also in, it's a wonderful knife. Nice. So he's doing the rounds. It's very exciting. for him. So, all right, let me tell you a little true crime story of ours. We did Bonnie and
Starting point is 00:14:49 Clyde a while ago. And there's so much more to like the bank robbing shoot-em-up gangsters. We should totally do that. We should do more of it. Like Pretty Boy Floyd, all of those guys, they're so fun. So it's 1927 and bank robberies are all the rage. Everyone wants to rob a bank. It's easy money. You see people doing it in the papers, all these things. It's almost Christmas, and it is December 23rd, and we are in Cisco, Texas, right smack in the middle. Have you been there? Risco or Cisco? Cisco.
Starting point is 00:15:23 No. It's in the middle of Texas. Our main criminal mastermind is named Marshall Ratliff. He was in prison for 18 years for another bank robbery that he had failed at, but he got pardoned by the governor at the time, who was Governor Miriam Ma Ferguson. And we've talked about Mahergson before, haven't we? Maybe with Bonnie and Clyde? I actually remember it mostly from last podcast, but maybe. Because I feel like she's fascinating because she's a woman governor in the 1920s of Texas.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And she was super corrupt. So his pardon, Ratliff's pardon, was one of 3,595 pardons that Mahergerson granted. And most of them were bought, probably, which is super fun. So Ratliff immediately, when he gets pardoned for this bank robbery, decides that he should rob a bank. Rob a bank. Exactly. So he gets his friends together. Harry and, or Harry Helms and Robert Hill. Then they have a dude who's good with safes named Lewis Davis. So the four of them decide to rob another bank, ASAP. In Texas at this time, four banks are robbed a day. So it is like, a dangerous s job to work in a bank or like be anywhere near a bank if you killed a bank robber in today's money the reward was $85,000 so like it's $5,000 in 85,000 out not if you caught them or turned them in if you killed them you got that money yeah that doesn't really shock me that
Starting point is 00:17:00 kind of keeps in spirit with texas i know i wonder if anyone ever actually got it but still so the crew was in Wichita Falls, which is about 50 miles from Cisco. And Marshall's like, Marshall Ratliff is like, I grew up in Cisco. I can't just like walk into this bank and rob it. They're going to know it's me. So he decides to dress like Santa. Santa. He borrows a costume from the woman who ran the boarding house that he was using. He certainly never returns it. And I guess you just had one around. Anyway, she doesn't wear it. I like the UN that was like, of course he didn't return it. It's like, yeah, I'm figuring this isn't going to go well. They're not getting back. So they steal a car and drive to Cisco. They stashed the getaway car. So the bank is like a one story brick building on like a street. You know, they make of like an old West town.
Starting point is 00:17:51 It's like one of those. So they're in an alley. They stash the car behind the bank in an alley. And Ratliff, he puts on his Santa costume and starts like a block away and walks to the bank. And while he's there, he gets surrounded by children. So he's on his way to rob a bank, and he's, like, reminding children to be good and patting them on the head and, like, trying to get rid of them. I love these stories. So he's, like, trying to get rid of the kids, on the way of the bank.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Finally, he gets into the bank. The banker says, hey, Santa, and there's more children in the bank. There's, like, people who have their children, and they're like, oh, my gosh. And the kids, like, want to talk to him. But the accomplices don't know this is happening. So they rush in and do the stick them up, hands up. So now they have hostages, and some of them are children. because they were excited to see Santa, obviously.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So there's a woman named Mrs. BP Blassengame. She was in there with her six-year-old daughter. They actually escaped out the back and ran to the police station, which was only a block away. She's screaming the entire fucking time, obviously. So she's screaming, gets to the station, she's screaming. So the police are there right away. You know, like they had no chance.
Starting point is 00:19:00 They're surrounded almost immediately. The police chief is named GE Vit Bedford. Bitt was his nickname, and he was like a big guy, a police officer for years. He ran over with his gun. You know, everyone else is called. Everyone else is on their way. So they start, the robbers start trying to back up. And in the meantime, they did steal some money, and they're trying to back up into an alley to get out.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And they end up finding two more people. So now they have eight hostages, two of them are children, and they stuff them all into the car. which I think is fun because you know how like cars aren't very fast yeah so a lot of times like I don't know if Bonnie and Clyde did it but like definitely some of the other ones would do it where you would have the hostages hold on to the side of the car because you know the cars had like that like step so that cops couldn't shoot at them which is super smart because of course the cops are going to shoot at a car that has like human beings on the outside of it but I guess that means they didn't I guess if you're the
Starting point is 00:20:02 kidnapper, you also have to be holding onto them from the inside so they don't jump? It's true, because it's not going very fast. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But either way, there's a shooting. Shooting happens.
Starting point is 00:20:15 They end up losing six of the hostages, and they actually only end up leaving with the two girls. So leave with like two young girls, the four robbers. And while they are doing the shootout, the sheriff dies. So the sheriff dies and another deputy dies later. Six civilians are wounded. Like, why are there so many people in the middle of this gunfight? But I feel like they're probably trying to kill the bankers to get the money, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah, what a nightmare. If I was like the guy being like, yeah, I'll join you guys. It seems like it'll be a fun, fun little thing. And then it turns into this. Yeah, exactly. So the sheriff's grave, I found it on find a grave. And his name again is George Bit Bedford, but I'll put the link to his grave. You can see a picture of him in our showruns as well.
Starting point is 00:20:58 So now they're on the run. And they're on the run. two little girls, four robbers, a lot of them are bleeding, and they start throwing nails on the window, like, nails to, like, stop other cars, which works until they realize that they're almost out of gas. So either, like, their gas steak was shot or they just didn't have enough gas in the first place, they're almost out of gas. Davis, the guy who was a safecracker, he is very injured. So they end up finding another car that's being driven by, like, a family. They kick the family out of the car, and they try to take that car. They move the money they've stolen, the very injured Davis into that car before they realized that they don't have the keys. Like the kid who was driving the car, took the keys with them and ran. So they can't take that car. So they go back into the car that didn't
Starting point is 00:21:41 have that much gas left, but they leave Davis to kind of bleed out in the new car. So he's gone. Now we got two girls, three robbers on the run. But, so Davis dies. On the 25th, he dies like the next day.
Starting point is 00:21:59 This was his only known crime. Like he was never in trouble For anything else I think it's wild Because they don't think he'd become a safe cracker For like Good intentions Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:08 Well he just Yeah, well he just Yeah, we're caught probably Yeah But do you remember what else They brought into that second car with them Besides their dying friend That I just told you about
Starting point is 00:22:18 The girls No, they brought all the money Oh the money, yeah You know what they did? They left it there Oh So now they're on the run again And they don't even have any of the money
Starting point is 00:22:27 They stole I'm wonder if they had any money at all I know, probably nothing. They stole $12,000 in cash and $150,000 in non-negotiable securities, and it would have been the largest Texas bank heist to date, but they left all the money back with their dying friend in the other car, so they didn't even have money anyway after all that. What a waste.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So I wrote, guys, all in caps, like carries it together. That makes no sense. So now it's the biggest manhunt in Texas history to date. There's horses and passies and an airplane. and they the girls must have been like very scared and also very annoying like they would have been like crying the whole time like you know what I mean and so it's Christmas Day it's two days later they get another they steal another car it's being driven by a young man named Wiley and Wiley's father sees this happen and he shoots at the car and shoots his own son he's fine but like
Starting point is 00:23:24 bumbling everyone's a mumbling idiot and so Wiley didn't die but he's he said later once they let him go he said that they were doing terrible so the three robbers were awful everyone was starving everyone was dirty they were bleeding like they were like very very injured and they had food they had oranges it's all they had to eat and they didn't give them to the girls which is really mean and it's also freezing it's icy and snowy and they're in like the middle of nowhere texas eventually they end up in south bend texas which is 55 miles away from Cisco. They're in a shootout with war cops in an oil field. Ratliff, our leader, gets caught. So he gets shot and finally falls. Once they get him and like pick up and look at him, he has six gunshot wounds and six guns when he gets captured. So like he was just like running for the fucking hills. And two of the police during that shootout were wounded by their own guns. A total of eight people wounded during that shootout. So just like also your gun's going to explode in your face.
Starting point is 00:24:24 yeah that's what I was thinking I was thinking like there's probably a lot of inaccuracy with firearms back then and like misfires but also I was wondering were they like running around in the aftermath of this wearing their Santa costumes because I feel like I'd take that off immediately I think he got that off immediately but I think it had like bullet holes in it and it was probably buddy or maybe he used it as like a tourniquette because he's definitely bleeding this whole for two whole days so then now there's no so and sometime during the time the two little girls get They escape, they get taken care of, probably during that oil fields fight. So now we have the two guys that are left. They end up being found a week later in a place called Graham, Texas, which is another 10 miles away. And they just got caught because they were tired and, like, very suspicious because they're, like, covered blood, dried blood and, like, limping. And once they were caught, you know, Frank Hammer, remember him? He's, like, the most famous Texas Ranger. No.
Starting point is 00:25:26 He's the one that led the group that ended up killing Bonnie and Clyde. He was, like, the first Texas Ranger, just like exactly what you think a Texas Ranger would look like. He's, like, huge, has a hat. Big mustache. On a horse, exactly. So he said that part of this problem was the reward because people are looking for people to kill to get this money. And he said that they call it, he called it, quote, the banker's murder machine. So it's like a way to, like, kill people who are even,
Starting point is 00:25:54 being like a little bit suspicious than a bank, but also like, I don't know, those four bank robberies a day, what are you going to do? It's something, yeah, it's not the worst idea in the world. So Ratliff, our leader, he gets life for the robbery. Then he goes back to Cisco and has another trial where he gets the death sentence for the sheriff and then another life sentence for like other stuff. So he's on death row. Helms gets death.
Starting point is 00:26:22 and then Hill talks about being an orphan. So he's just like one of the other guys. And he talks about being an orphan and how hard his life was. And he gets life in prison. So Ratliff is on death row at the same place that Helms is. And Ratliff gets a record player and plays like a hymn called When the Roll is When the Roll is called Up Yonder, which I Googled and you can watch a bunch of white people sing in a choir if you want to on YouTube. It's like a church song.
Starting point is 00:26:48 He would play it and people pass the cell to die, but he didn't play it for Helms. Helms tried to pretend insanity so he wouldn't get executed, but it didn't work. And he died in the electric chair on September 6th, 1929, so a little less than two years after the whole ordeal. So Ratliff is like, absolutely not. I do not want to be a loud trick shared. So he also tries to pretend insanity. His is even worse. He does a better job at it than Helms.
Starting point is 00:27:17 He kind of believe him. So they kind of lower their guard. so he ends up escaping on November 18th, 1929 That's exactly what I was thinking this whole time I was like, this is prison in like the early 1900s like can't you just like Walk out?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah, can you just like I'm supposed to be getting out of prison today, not in Carve like a fake gun out of like a thing of soap And just stick up your jailers Like it seems easy I imagine drawing like a train Tunnel and then just like going through it like a cartoon, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:51 So he escapes, but he only got to, like, the lobby. He didn't get very far. They saw him. In that time, he managed to kill a guard. And then the other guard, there were two guards there. The other guard beat him unconscious and threw him back in the cell. So he didn't get very far, but he got out and managed to, like, take their guns and kill one of the guards. So now, it's the next day.
Starting point is 00:28:11 It's November 19th, 1929. And the people of Texas are pissed. They're like, this is ridiculous. This man should have been electric chair a while ago. He pretended to be insane. We know that he's not. He just escaped and killed someone else. Like, he is very dangerous.
Starting point is 00:28:25 So a thousand people form a mob, and they break into the jail, and they take him. So this mob takes Ratliff out of the jail. They try to hang him, but their rope breaks. So they get a better rope, and then they successfully hang him. So that's how he dies from, like, a mob lynching. And they never, no one ever is in trouble for it. Like, no one ever did it. This is Texas Justice.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah. His body was taken to a furniture store and put on display. And about several thousand people saw it on display, which is like a wild thing that they used to do all that time. When someone died, you just like get to walk past their body for a long time. So wasn't that long ago. I know. Is that crazy? It was like a hundred years ago.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah. And so eventually Ratless mom got his body and he was buried in Fort Worth. So he ended up going back there. But he obviously was like going to live life of crime until the very, very end. The last guy, Hill, he was the one who was an orphan when he was younger and had like a hard life. And eventually he does get let out from his life sentence. He only serves like 15 or so years of it. And then he gets married and he is a model citizen.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He dies in 1996. He never quit another crime. Yeah. Do we know what he did with his life? I think that he worked in a factory because he got let out and like right before World War two and they like needed people in factories
Starting point is 00:29:54 and they were like fuck it let him out you know and they let him out and he just like it was like a normal 50s working guy until he died in the 90s but he could have been your grandpa I mean he probably got a lot of free drinks at the bar
Starting point is 00:30:07 yeah are you the Santa heist guy I was also thinking about reindeer games which is also another really good Christmas movie which was all about sand as robbing in casino i watched die hard too the other day nice that's a good one too it is a good one i like how much smoking cigarettes are in it yeah yeah which like now at our age i'm like i know you i know you feel different you probably feel different about it i mean i just can't imagine because also in black christmas i think it's in black christmas like oh no we're
Starting point is 00:30:43 another one of the 80s ones that whatever whatever I watched a movie where a police officer got woken up in the middle of the night by a phone call you know but he picks up his phone next to the phone is like an ashtray full of cigarettes and I'm like yeah I know like having your bed smoke cigarettes doesn't sound great do you remember when we're kids and we go
Starting point is 00:30:59 to a restaurant and it would be like smoking or non-smoking section mm-hmm that's crazy when I was in high school I was a waitress and there was smoking and non-smoking sections and like a very small restaurant like it was like very dumb to have like it was very stupid you were like oh this person 10 feet wait for me smoking cigarette cool yeah smoking non-smoking just been smoking yeah yeah um yeah
Starting point is 00:31:19 yeah anyway that's it fun little story of a santa robbing a bank very cool very cool um and we learned a little bit about santa himself so good we'll uh we'll use this as uh inspiration maybe for the next person who wants to go rob bank yeah stupid idea though because kids are going to swarm you exactly like they're gonna be excited they're gonna talk to you do you ever see the santa claus with tim allen i'm positive i did but i can't remember we've watched it like we've obviously watched it a bunch because i have kids but as he's slowly like morphing into santa more and more kids just like follow him around it's so funny that's right that's right he's like trying not to do it people are like trying to sit on his lap yeah we went through like a phase with those movies all
Starting point is 00:32:05 coming out at the same time like i think jingle all the way came around at the same time Oh, it's fun. Yeah, super fun. Sweet. Well, thank you for sharing Taylor. Is anything you want to sign us off with? Yes, of course, my friend Morgan, who has been to every single place we could possibly imagine, has drank from the fountain of youth. It's in Florida.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It is in Florida. Okay. Nice. Do we know specifically where? I do. Let me check my texts. I might not be able to find it fast enough for this recording. It's going to take a long time.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But no, she showed me. and it's incredible of course oh here you go um she said it is in st augstein and she's drank from it nice did she feel any different do we know um I don't know if I told you but she's like 150 years old so I think it went well good good for her congratulations Morgan
Starting point is 00:32:55 yeah um well look yeah if anybody has anything so one thing that I would ask is like I would love feedback from folks like honest like feedback of like hey this is good this sucks this is what I want to hear like whatever it is like you know give us your honest perspective on things because we like doing this and we want to know where we are doing well and more so we want to know what we're doing badly and they can improve so please write to us doom to phelpot at gmol.com or post a message to one of our social accounts at dupnafel pod and let us know what you think so we can improve
Starting point is 00:33:33 cool i love it sailor no that's it thank you sweet we'll go on and sign on Oh.

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