Doomed to Fail - Ep 176: Who's to say Virgin Blood doesn't stop aging? - Elizabeth Bathory

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Let's get creepy for Women's History! Farz walks us through the tale of Elizabeth Bathory, who murdered countless peasants in her Transylvanian castle. Did she bathe in their blood to stay young?? Did she just like killing people? How many places in a castle can you hide a body??? If you live in a castle and know that answer please email us. Main Source:https://ir.library.illinoisstate.edu/etd/135/No Blood in the Water: the Legal and Gender Conspiracies against Countess Elizabeth Bathory in Historical ContextRachael Leigh Bledsaw Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

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It feels nice to be welcome every now and then. Yeah, yeah. We'll welcome everyone. Let's do it. To Doom to Fail. We're a podcast that brings you history as most notorious disasters and epic failures twice a week. I am Taylor, joined by Fars. We are so close to being famous people.

Just keep telling your friends. We're like right on the cusp and we're not going to forget the people that brought us here. I was telling my husband how you did the math and the math was like, you will be successful in 35 years. Hey, you know what? Okay, in theory, if social security runs out when we think it's going to run out, this can be our social security. That's true.

Okay, great, great, great, great, good for us. Great, we get to work till we're 100. This isn't work. It's true. It's true. I learn so much when I do these episodes, like, from you, but also because, like, I also learned from my own research, but I also learned from, like, the 17 topics I have research, but then give up.

Yeah. To go to my main topic. No, I definitely think that we're smarter. Oh my God, also, I'm number five in my learned league right now out of 26. Okay, do you know when you can invite me to that? I can, but I have to talk to you about it because it made me nervous about it. It said that you have to make sure if you fuck up, I get kicked out. Wait, how could I fuck up?

If you don't do it, so you have to do it every day. You have to. If you don't do it every day, then you get kicked out. You know me, Taylor, you know me for a very, very long time. Do you think I have the accountability within myself to do this? every day. I think so. Then we're doing it.

Okay. Okay. You can set it up. You get a text message to remind you if you haven't done it by a certain time. So you should do that as well. Okay. Just to make sure. Deal. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay, fine. I'll invite you. Thank you. Don't mess up for me. I won't. Okay. Cool. But wait.

So when am I, well, tell me when I have to start doing it. I'll invite you now. There's a wait list. So I'll invite you. So I'll be on the wait list and it'll tell you. Okay. All right. Deal.

Yeah. Cool. Okay. So, topic-wise, who goes first today? You do. Yay. I'm going to be saying a lot of names that I absolutely have no idea how to pronounce. I've spelled them out for myself phonetically on the outline.

Nice. But I'm going to mess up a lot of names, just as a heads up. What language are we getting into? Say what? What language are we getting into? English names? I'm going to tease it first, Taylor. So the tease part is we are about to go into Women's History Month

And as a firm believer in equality of the sexes I wanted to cover, do a little three-parter on some historical women Look at that. Look at that, right? Yeah, I'm excited. And I think that women have as much capacity for evil as men because I'm a feminist. 100%. The women that I have set up

for women's history months, there are baddies in there. Did we do the same thing? I don't, I mean, you know that I have, I don't think so, but maybe you should tell me later. So we don't do a ton of research. So I'll tell you now, actually.

It's actually a part of the conversation. So I'm going to be covering female serial killers, but not. Okay, I'm not doing any of that. Okay, cool, cool. Yeah, mine are like different things. So, yeah, we're good. Great.

but I'm not going to cover the boring ones like Eileen Wernos once Charlize Theron has done a movie about you like you're too famous for us to cover you I wish I hadn't seen that movie Why you know It's just like one of those ones were just like Every once in a while you think of a terrible thing

That happened in that movie and you're like oh That was terrible They were way too nice to her Like they were so Nice to her I was like I felt empathetic at like the first one And then she kept doing it

I know that's where that's where it went sideways and then it turned like a love story with it's like why are you romanticizing her like she's she was a monster like I wish I didn't see it but anyway I keep going so I'm going to cover three women and I'm going to kind of meander around the globe on this one I'm going to go with I'm going to start in Europe then I'm going to go to Russia then I'm going to end in the US as part of this three part series of historically evil women so when you get to the first woman of historical significance and it's someone that I one time just shouted at Taylor like a month ago I think over and over and over again and she just looked to me like what are you

saying I remember Elizabeth Bathory. Oh yes this is it says I do remember you shouting that at me I was so excited because I was so excited because I sort of know I sort of knew this story but I didn't deeply deeply know the story do you know the story no what did I what was I doing that you were yelling Bathory at me? I don't know. You were covering some woman in history. We've done way to many episodes. I have no idea what you did three weeks ago.

Are you looking at it up? I'm trying to think, but I don't, I can't even remember. You said something. You teased it in a way that was like she's obviously doing Elizabeth Bathory. Anyway, you go. You keep going. So this is going to be an interesting one. Again, I learned a lot about world history because you can't discuss.

the alleged crimes without understanding the time period in which Elizabeth Bathrie lived in the position in which she occupied in history. I'm going into my like Dan Carlin voice in tone. I'm going to talk about Dan Carlin a lot and I actually feel like after this I need to be banned from reading Dan Carlin's blue sky because I keep responding to it like he's going to respond to me

and he's only like, no he's not. I'm like the only woman on there everyone else who's like just it makes me I'm pretty much better off. I'm getting hot. I'm getting nervous. You go. You keep going. So the time period here that we're going to be discussing is going to be like the late 1,500s to the early 1600s. And the geographic area we're going to be discussing is present day Hungary. I'm also in the late 1500s today.

Is it in Hungary? No. God, there's almost so much stuff happening. It's a much stuff. So this is a little bit of geography and world history lesson for you all before I actually am to tell Elizabeth Baderie's story because it's actually super, super relevant. So present day hungry is positioned pretty close to the middle of Europe. So you have Croatia, Serbia, and Romania to its south, and then you have Slovakia and Austria to its north. It's a pretty sizable landmass.

But that's not what the map looked like during Elizabeth Bathory's lifetime. Back then, it was a much smaller landmass. And you had the Ottoman Empire controlling the southern end with expansion plans into the present day, into present day Hungary. And you had the infamous Hapsburg family that controlled Austria. Do you remember the Habsburg? I do. Yeah, they're the ones who are like crazy and bred. Yeah, they have, they can't close their memory.

mouths. They can't. Exactly. Exactly. You have the Kingdom of Hungary itself, which when the relevant parts of the story are being told, is ruled by a guy named King Matthias II. And he's basically just like nonstop trying to fend off the Ottomans from the south and the Habsburgs in the north. Then on the eastern side, you have this like sort of buffer, semi-autonomous region that is known as Transylvania, which is so cool. So, cool. So in Transylvania, you have a lovely, lovely married couple named Ference Nadashdi. Thank you.

Thank you, everyone. That's perfect. And Elizabeth Bathrae. I can do my Dracula impression if you want to. Just kidding. I'm going to be a Dracula. Mine's pretty good. But you continue.

So Ference came from a noble family and rose in the run. ranks with the military at a time when Hungary was actively fighting the Turks. His story is pretty short because we really don't really care about his life. He's sort of irrelevant for the main parts of this story. He would ultimately die of illness while at battle and

that would then convey I wrote his enormous wealth over to Elizabeth but she was also enormously wealthy as well, which I'll get into here in a moment. And as part of what we would now consider like his will, he also

quote, entrusted his heirs and widows, unquote, to another nobleman, a guy named Deirdai Terzo. So he, like, willed his wife to another man? Well, what it's supposed to be is like, so, again, these are not normal people. Like, they have vast, vast estates and riches. And the idea was that you now are her protectorate if she needs a protectorate, basically. That's sincere. Like when we had a fire drill at work

And you had to be my partner when I was pregnant Yeah, exactly that And protect me walking down the stairs I had to find you and we had to walk down together Because that was part of the rules As if you were pregnant, you needed a partner To walk you down the stairs I was entrusted

You were So Elizabeth herself Like I was getting to She was from Noble Blood So part I'm just trying to illustrate Like what these people came from As part of the wedding gift

when these two wed, Ferrant and Elizabeth. So Ferrant was 19, Elizabeth of 14 when they wed. This is one of those times. Yeah. Their families gifted them one castle and 17 of the surrounding villages. It's hilarious. I would be like, I'll think the castle villages seem like a lot of work. So these people were of such exceeding wealth that they made out personal loans to the

Kingdom of Hungary. Wow. And King Matthias II that I mentioned earlier had taken out a fairly sizable loan from Farent prior to his death to help fund his battle with the Turks. Spoiler, Elizabeth of the end of the story dies. It was in the 1600s. But by the time she died just as context, she held 26 castles, hundreds of villages with tens of thousands of peasants and serfs working the land for her. Wow. I tried to figure out what this actually means in modern times in terms of wealth. The closest approximation Chachibit could give me was it's basically like the British

crown. Like, you sort of own Canada, you sort of own Australia, New Zealand, you own like a ton of castles across the country and the world. Like, everything just flows up to you. And everything you own has to be physical, you know. You don't have like, you know, there's no, there's no New York stock market. We kind of talked about it. I feel like a long time ago where like in Hollywood.

and maybe around this time is when people would like start buying like parts of a ship you know as like an investment but like you weren't really investing anything like until then I think you're also thinking about the story of the Essex where that's like it was like how companies work you would invest in a ship and then when a portion of the profits from the whaling expedition came to you right yeah yeah I'm laughing because we just we're just learning so much we're kind of smart okay so do you have all that context out of the way crazy wealthy person a lot of infighting these people are secluded within transylvania you have a dead husband you have a protectorate

yada yada yeah clear okay so almost immediately after her husband's death rumors started to circulate about the alleged cruelty by elizabeth towards the workers in her village the abuse of serfs, sorry, the abuse or murder of serfs or presidents working in your land, truly was not a big deal. Nobody can't. Which also happens to make me think

that the story might be true because why else would they spread if people knew there was no consequence? Right, like, it's so bad. I'm assuming that like that's why you know about it. That you're saying? Yeah, well, maybe I don't know it's so bad.

I'm just saying like, like why would you start spreading the rumor knowing that nobody's going to do it. There's no upside to spreading a rumor about this because she's beyond investigation. Yeah. You know, all you could do is put yourself in like a shitty light to the aristocracy.

So what followed though was kind of a big deal. So back in the back at that time this is like how the social and economic ladders worked. The lowest rung of the ladder were serfs and peasants. These are people who could never own land. They would just work the land. Like they They're the people in Game of Thrones who you don't want to be.

Yeah, yeah. They're covered in shit. Exactly. Shit cover people. Then you can potentially graduate to being a farmer or a skilled tradesman who actually can't own some land. Then you have the bourgeoisie who had wealth but lacked nobility. Then you could graduate to the land of gentry who was just under nobility. So they had estates, largest states, wealth, but they had no formal titles.

then you have high nobility or the aristocracy. That's what Elizabeth would have been who own estates and have noble titles. And then you have the monarchy, who is what King Matthias is. Like I said, Elizabeth was high nobility class herself and she was abusing the bottom class until rumors started swirling that she was killing young girls from a landed gentry class. So the class just below the noble class. We care a little bit more. We care a little bit more.

Yeah. I'm not going to draw direct analysis, direct comparison to Gabby Petito, but there's something here. Yeah, there's a lot there. But continue. People are the same. Exactly. Yeah. Earth-shattering news from Taylor.

Yeah. People have not changed. So for some reason that no historical record can identify, trust me, I'm going to quote something here that, like, I dug quite a bit on this. There was this one Lutheran minister. a guy named Eastvon Maggiari. I should have did that one phonetically. That's the only one I didn't do phonetically. This Luther minister, for some reason hated Elizabeth.

There's a lot of reasons to hate Elizabeth. Like, she's Protestant in a time when most of the areas Catholic. She has tremendous wealth. Like, when you're at the top, everybody's trying to shoot up to knock you off the top. That's just the way it works in human history. So there's probably a ton of reasons And some of them might be justified some of them not justified Why this guy hated her

But he just totally totally hated her And he would incessantly preach About the cruelty and killings That she was presumed be responsible for Again none of this gained traction Her husband died in 1604 None of this gained traction until 609 When he pivoted from she's torturing and killing peasants

To she's torturing and killing the daughters Of the gentry class This would eventually bubble up to King Matthias to second for reasons that we're going to get into or that are somewhat suspicious later on who ordered the guy I mentioned earlier dear D. Terzo to investigate the claim. So again, this is like olden times. There's not a ton of people around and they all know each other.

And like it's just a small group of people that know everything and do everything. And so this guy was the protector of the family after Ferens died, but he's also being ordered by the king to go investigate, go investigate these claims against Elizabeth. His title at the time was Palantine of Hungary, which basically meant that he is the highest serving official of the monarch. So whatever the monarch says is like chief of staff right now, I think. Is it a couple of them. So he goes with some other people, like two other investigators,

to our castle, we'll start investigations by looking around for anything suspicious and interviewing people working for Elizabeth. And he concludes through conversations with different people, no actual direct physical evidence, that she probably tortured and killed around 80 girls. This is also the time that the whole myth that she was draining these girls of blood in a bathtub and then bathing in it to maintain her youth and beauty kind of started sprouting up. But again, I think that's because like, why not?

Make it make it fun, right? Absolutely, yeah. Like that gives it like, I don't know, also a little bit of purpose. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, if it works, whatever works. Yeah, sure. yeah go ahead and bathe in blood um so the ranges of what actually uh what she was actually

responsible for very quite a bit so one of her alleged accomplices claims that she killed 50 people and then there was also a claim by like some peasant women that she killed around 650 they're all over the map nobody really knew anything i read a um a good deal of an incredibly well researched thesis paper from an Illinois State University student named Rachel Bledsaw that's entitled No Blood in the Water, the Legal and Gender

Conspiracies Against Countess Elizabeth Bathory in historical context. This is her thesis statement. I don't know what she's getting her doctorate in, but this is cool. Wow, that's amazing that you read that. It was so dense, Taylor.

Having not been in school for a very, very long time, like my capacity actually read something all the way through is like almost almost done existent. But I'm pulling heavily from her thesis paper from here on Ford because the historical record just kind of

skips what happens from the investigation starts to Elizabeth dies. There's like really not that much out there. So this is all thanks to this racial blood. I found it. I'll link to it. Cool. It seems like there was legitimately a lot of claims of torture and murder

and I don't know how to interpret that whether these are just claims from peasants and serf who hate the crazy rich lady at the top of the castle but apparently after conducting his investigation Dior de Terzo man rough going to give him a nickname can we call him DT

yeah absolutely DT who again remember he was entrusted to take care of this family after the has been passed. He ended up writing a letter to Elizabeth's son and son-in-law, as well as their legal representatives, telling them about his investigation. Apparently, like, again, the historical record has no idea what the back and forth here was. We only know what actually happened. So the assumption that the, uh, Rachel Bledso and her, her, her statement made was that, um, the family decided that we cannot let this be a trial situation. We can't let it go

public because if it goes public and it's true we're going to be stripped of our nobility we're going to lose all of our lands and titles and everything else and it's going to be a huge shame and embarrassment to the memory of our father and to our mother so apparently what they said is feel free to go after anybody you want related to this and try them however you want to try them our mother cannot be tried on this like the hat she has so you have to find an alternate punishment that she kind of skates by on this so apparently d t felt a little bit uncertain about what was true and what wasn't and so he along with king matthias would join elizabeth at her castle on christmas eve and try to get a confession out of her

basically presenting her with you know here's what we have do you want to say anything about it yada yada yada apparently this event ended with both men getting violently sick and it was assumed that she had poisoned them again not a great look for the she is innocent side of the argument but apparently when they confirmed her with the investigation and the evidence she denied everything and stormed out of the dinner which got to be really fun yeah i feel like that's definitely something that happens in like game of thrones yeah you're eating like one big loaf of bread and then like you're just like tearing a piece of it off and then dipping in some stew with rabbits and then that's got to be good so on december 29th 1610 so five days after this event soldiers were sent to the castle to arrest elizabeth and apparently while looking for her found one dead girl in the hallway, having been beaten to death. And then three of the accomplices, three of Elizabeth,

the accomplices beating several other girls in a dungeon. Per the agreement, Elizabeth was confined to her castle while her accomplices faced the following punishment after a trial in a guilty verdict. Okay, going over some names here. So you have Anna Der Vibulia, which sounds almost like Dracula,

which is really cool. She died of a stroke before being rest. She died in 1609. She was actually accused of the worst of the worst by everybody else which of course she was because she was already dead. Yeah, that makes sense. And then you have

Yona Joe who confessed to murder and was publicly executed by having her hands cut off and then burned to the stake. You have Janos Physico and this was a teenage boy who was arrested and confessed to

bringing victims to Elizabeth to be killed. He was beheaded. Then you have Dorotia Zenti who apparently was considered the coolest out of all of them and took the most joy out of torturing young girls.

She was also, she also had her hands cut off publicly and then burn of the steak. Oh, God. And the family essentially got to keep their titles and Elizabeth got to keep her castle where, again, the historical record is a little dicey. So,

some of people, parts of the historical records say that she was entombed within the castle, meaning she was like put into the walls of the castle alive. Alive. Yeah. But it seemed like the most likely thing that happened was that she was just under her house arrest. She just couldn't leave the castle.

And so there she was for about five years or four years after she was arrested. She died in 16, 14, at the age of 54 years old in her bed. and ever since then the jury's kind of been out on whether she did it or did not do it what the motivations could have been why Matthias was so involved in this like there's some speculation that Matthias ordered the investigation

not because he believed in it but because he knew that if the investigation went forward then he would be absolved to paying the debt off that he owed to Ferrant and Elizabeth Bathory and that might have been a big part of this but we don't know we still don't know to this day whether it is true or not but I would say

Rachel's thesis paper or lean 60-40 I would say 70-30 towards she did it and yeah I'm kind of going in that direction myself like but why did she do it

why did Jeffrey Dahmer eat people and wrap their entrails around his neck and dance around his little room she's just like beating them she's just like beating random girls to death for fun I mean I guess Yeah, that's what, that's what, have you never heard of a serial killer? Like, what do you think you do?

No, I have, but I mean like, they're like, she's not like going out to find them. They're like, they're like, are there. Yeah, it's just having your accomplices go out into your villages and find someone, bring them to your house. Listen, I am not saying that if I was worth like a trillion dollars, I wouldn't be doing that. But like, at that point, you have everything in the world. not just go just go kill a bunch of people now you know what that feels like too i got to edit this out don't i that's not apropos of nothing definitely have to edit this out but yeah we don't know we don't know i mean maybe maybe the rumors are true maybe she was bathing in blood who knows the the the

thesis statement that rachel blood so wrote one thing that she pointed out that was leaning towards the um the innocence piece had to do with like the way the confessions were obtained by her conspirators because there was some, I can't remember exactly how she put it, but it was like a given that everybody was being tortured, right? But there was something about like the timeline

of when the torture could have potentially happened that seemed suspicious that everybody confessed to these horrible, horrible crimes at the exact same time, and the fact that they also confessed roughly the same amount of murders. They all confessed to around 50. It was like somewhere in the 45 to 55 range, all the accomplices said like that's how many women

girls we killed for her or she killed but i guess and then that number of girls were missing yeah this is like this is a time when your kid would just go into a field and never come home like i was thinking you could like fall into a hole like you could fall into a hole the the organ trail yeah yeah the dommer oh nope donner party donner thank you christ um yeah where the kids were just like run away and they'd never come back exactly yeah so that's our story

fun fun Elizabeth Bathory she reminds me of Madame Lulari you know hey can you not ruin things is that one of yours is that what you're doing oh I'm sorry

it feels very similar you can cut that out cut that out fuck I can cut that out um no I I want a picture I feel like

it's helpful to have like seen nose for to and like have an idea of going up to a scary castle in like the middle of the of the forest you know yeah i don't know if these castles are really gifts because when you imagine yourself in these things like it sounds terrifying it might be like a live bear in your castle and you wouldn't even know about it absolutely oh my god there's a thing in oh i'm looking it up there's a castle the castle ruin that might be her castle but in the great that show about Catherine the Great, there's an episode, or someone, like, brings into alligator, and no one's

ever seen an alligator before, and it gets loose in, like, the, um, in, like, the palace, where, like, 300 people live there, and it's, like, the court, but then, like, people are, like, I saw a monster. And people are like, what? And they're like, there was a monster in my room, but it's, like, someone's loose alligator, but they've never seen one before. And, like, no one could find it. Yeah, it doesn't sound like a fun, luxurious experience to live in these places.

Yeah, and, yeah, it's also gross. Um, especially, because she had 26 of them. so like she could be i mean she could stay at one every two weeks a year and only do one rotation oh i burned down in 1799 that's too bad um yeah i feel like and then there's people who like live at each of the castle forever and they have like normal life except that one week when you're there or they could get murdered. Yeah. Yeah.

So I think that was also part of the appeal was like, hey, like surf girl or like whatever. Like you can come see how Elizabeth lives and hang out with Elizabeth. Yeah. It's just like an enticing thing. It's like a candy. It's like a person in a van with like candy, you know? But in this case, it's. Yeah, it seems like a little bit nicer than living in like a puddle of mud.

Shit covered hell. Yeah. That's like that's bad. That's exciting. Yeah. So that's part. one i'm going to do part two part three and that'll be the encapsulation of women's history i love it to a Airbnb be a castle sometime yeah you got to go i think you got to go to europe

for that well castle rentals in the united states boo literally who cares no europe no on a brand new castle i don't know the hearse castle would be fun that's true i but I would say at the Biltmore that we went to. Oh, the Billmore would have been great, too. There's cottages. Rees this, but here for a cottage, Airbnb. I'm here for a castle. A thousand.

Gives me, oh, my God. Yeah, that'd be very fun. I would love to do that. Cool. Thank you. That's exciting and scary, and I love it. It's very horror of fame. Transylvania, a woman bathing in virgin blood.

It's so, it's fun. Yeah. Yeah, it's super fun. Sweet. Oh, this is cool. I'm sorry. I'm distracted by looking at castles on Airbnb. No, don't.

Yeah. This one has a church in it. I guess they all would have had a church in them. Well, and a barbecue. Literally a church with pews. And then the next one is someone grilling meat out on a barbecue. Oh, good. They have a grill.

I wonder if they have a hot tub. Yeah. You should get married at a castle. Should I get married again? Next thing to get married. Next thing to get married is that we have a reason to go to a castle. I feel like that's a good reason to go. Cool.

well thank you that that was awesome yeah it was fun i um yeah every now and then i research something and it's like it reinvigorates that reptilian part of my brain that's like in the true crime yeah yeah and also it's fun too because like there's the historical record is kind of like all over the maps like it creates a lot of plot holes that you can just put your own assumptions into and just like imagine like what it would have like like i imagine it was always cold you know and Like, you're always, like, trying to wear, like, another layer that is, like, molding apart because you don't want to die of coldness, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, just wear the skin of your peasants. Why not?

I wonder if there's, I wonder if she kept trophies, you know? Like, oh, actually, kind of maybe, then that kind of reminds me of, you know, in return to Oz. Yeah. Where she has a room full of heads. I don't recall that. It's, like, the scariest part. You might have blocked it out. Like, because it's, like, a nightmare.

but like the witch whoever it is has like no head and then she like picks different heads from this like room of heads and the heads are just like pretty young women sleeping and then they like kind of wake up sometimes and scream it's real scary that would be very fitting in this story yeah i feel like that that feels like something that it would be a missed opportunity if she didn't do that exactly like what did she do with the bodies like though you talked about those those guys in india who were killing all those kids and just like throwing them over the wall in like the town yeah that's i I mean, you never know because people will just die in your castle too, right? Remember the two, what were the twin, the two boys that we were discussing? Yeah, the boys in the tower and yeah. And then like they found like two skeletons like 700 years later. I was like, wait, was this those two boys? I was like, I don't know. There's like 800 people who were buried here.

And like that even then like the being entombed part as well, like you could just lose someone and be like, oh God, remember when I like tied. forest to that pipe two months ago because I was mad at him I forgot about him did he still a lot and he'd be like oh no he's not but that was like damn it you know when I left my castle I forgot to untie all the people I tied to poles in the dungeon so he's stinking up the place throwing the septic tank call today yeah exactly um very very fun well Taylor do you have any list for mail um I got a couple suggestions for women's history month via Instagram that I appreciate

that are not serial killers and some of them I will be taking up on so I'm excited very very fun if you have other suggestions any ideas any thoughts any considerations concerns whatever you want to talk about write to us addundefalpod at gmail.com we actually do read everyone and write to us and

follow some social of doom to fell pod on all these socials including TikTok which Taylor has been super active thank you it's super fun yeah it was a lot of comments and stuff. So thank you everyone on there as well. I just wanted to end with also on Airbnb after I got off the castles. There's a shepherd's hut that is literally a mound of dirt that you can rent for $100 a night. So you can cosplay as a peasant if you want to as well. That's not impossible. There's definitely people who also go to rent fares

who would do that. That's true. I do want to go to a rent fair. I went to one once. I'd like to go to more. I go again. That's like a once every day. 15 years thing that's fair yeah yeah and then you go see in a castle or your house yeah not like this mud hut i think it's in france it isn't it's a yurt unpopular opinion given what we're talking about i think medieval time sucks oh no i love it it's like you can't eat your food comfortably because there's like dust everywhere and can you hear that i did hear that the dog yeah i'm gonna mute myself you keep talking this this yurt has a 4.9 um my friend jason from high school went to the medieval times in las Vegas which is the like show at thugs caliber and he almost died because he figured out

his allergic to horses as soon as he walked in and they had to like take away in ambulance yeah lessons uh lessons learned know if you're going to go into anaphylactic shock around a horse before you go in yeah so he definitely would not have made it in medieval times gone quite young cool now we're just and I'm looking at yurts in Spain. Anything else, Taylor, before we signing off the babble? No, thank you. Thank everyone.

Sweet. Well, please again, write to us atunifalpatejumal.com, and we will see you again in a few days. Thank you, Taylor. Thanks.