Doomed to Fail - Ep 185: Mapping the Earth from Space - Dr. Valerie L. Thomas & her career at NASA

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

We love science projects & women in STEM! Today, we're talking about a winner, Dr. Valerie L. Thomas and her contributions to science while working at NASA. Dr. Thomas broke all the barriers to lead some incredible projects. One, the Landsat Satellite Program, starting in the 1970s  is still in operation taking pictures today (We're at Landsat 9), and her work with mirrors and 3D images with her 'Illusion Transmitter' is a huge part of modern 3D imaging! Learn more with us! #science Sources:https://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/Helping Build the Internet: Valerie Thomas | Great Minds - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE3QJvglfqI&t=16sThe Boys' First Book of Radio and Electronics - https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-boys-first-book-of-radio-and-electronics/8710728/item/33556913/BHM Valerie Thomas Black History Month - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWSobWz7ZNw Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

It's a matter of the people of the state of California versus Hortonthal James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. And we are back, not live. Yeah. We're just, we're just here, Taylor. We're just here. Hello.

How are you doing? Good. How's your martini? I haven't tried yet, but I'm looking at it. It looks nice. You know what I do? I do gin and vermouth, and then I do lemon essential oil. I like that.

I do, I think I'm preferring a gin martini over vodka martini. Yeah, I always do, but I always do like a bunch of olive and dirty, but kind of been in the mood for like a very clear martini. Nice. My favorite, I will admit, when I feel like a fancy boy, espresso martini's. They hit. I like them. I see in the video, the guy who put two

special martinis and two a Guinness pint and it looks just like a Guinness. Oh my God, yeah, I did see that, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Cool. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Doom to Fail. We bring you history's most notorious disasters and failures. And I am Taylor joined by Fars. And I have a winner to talk about today.

So it's a good story. It's a happy story. Yes. I have a cool science story, which is very hard for me to understand so I'm super excited to talk to you about it because I am not a science person and I don't think it's because I just like it just never really I never had that like click click moment with science I wish I did I was always in love with science I was always a science kid um especially biological like science the biology like I was really into that because I love animals and I realize like you know what I love is like when you look at like a dog and it looks into your face and you like see its eyes and it's like really happy and you're really happy. But like I don't really care what its nucleus looks like. You know, like I just never got that far into it. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, I was like, well, Florence just did our science fair and like she got a like third place in the invention category, which is super cute.

And like all of the kids that were there, it's cute. There's like the school is small, but there's definitely a core group of people who are in all the activities, you know, like the people. We see in soccer. We see them in music and we saw them at Chess Club this morning. And like they're like a group of people all do the same thing, but all the kids were in the science fair. But I was like my family and I laugh about it because like there's several examples of my family trying to help each other do a science fair project and getting like D's. Like being like, oh my God. And then Kincaid is a scientist. My brother did grow up to be his little literal job title title is scientist.

What is what is science? Environmental science. He does things in Annapolis and Baltimore to. stop erosion of the shoreline. So his company will go in and they will like put in like walls and rock beds and stuff

to help with that. And then they'll also evaluate places where they want to like build things and they'll be like okay you can't build this because it's like swamp land or marshland or because of the ecosystem or all those things. So he'll go in and like do those things. Awesome. I just was somehow I went down this weird Instagram loop of like

people who would try to connect rivers to oceans to surf the water that flows from the river to the ocean and there was like two or three in a row and I was like is this really a thing that people are doing because it sounds horrible like digging a hole yeah like digging a hole and connecting a river to an ocean and like after like 30 minutes it turns into a huge rush of water and like this seems really bad for the world yeah it feels like you shouldn't do that yeah so kinkade if you're listening you should watch the same Instagram rules that I do and try to stop them. One time we went canoeing in the middle of the canoe path,

you had to stop and get out of the canoe and carry it over a freeway and then could get back in the water. It was just really funny. I was like, what do we doing? They'd be fun. It's kind of like a triathlete situation. Exactly. Exactly.

I felt like a triathlete. So this was suggested by listener Kiara. Thank you, Kiara. It also continues to be Women's History Month. and I'm going to talk about Dr. Valerie L. Thomas, who was a NASA scientist and an inventor. Sweet. So I'm always, like I just alluded to, I'm always like, so I always say this, and you and I always say this. Like, when I was growing up, I was never like, oh, I could have a job in, like, political technology because it, like, wasn't an option.

I never would have, like, thought of it. I mean, I could, like, dream of being. But also, like, I just wasn't exposed to this stuff because, like, obviously people have been working computers for a long time. but I just like just like not my people does that make sense like there are some kids you miss me in though so political

so my first campaign Taylor we ran our field operation off of spreadsheets we literally printed spreadsheets and then went and walked the block knock on doors and logging responses in spreadsheets so like

we were very far removed from political technology being a thing that was like 2006 i know it's not for it's not that long ago i know but i just think that like i never consider like i could have a job like in computers you know like i just didn't just gonna happen and and so um but i just like also think maybe i just was not curious enough and there weren't we didn't have a computer growing up and like just like wasn't a thing it wasn't like in my people's radar yeah yeah but valerie um was able to learn about computer computers very young and which is really cool because she was a black woman in the 1960s when she joined NASA.

She is still alive, by the way. I'll talk about it, but she does now, but she's still alive. So Valerie L. Thomas was born on February 8, 1943 in Baltimore. And when she was eight, like the lore is that. She read a book called The Boys First Book on Electronics, and that sparked her fascination with electronics. And it's just funny that, like, they made that book for boys. And you can begin it on Thrift.

books for about $100 now. It's like a book on the thing. So it also reminds me of like why you need things like girls in STEM and girls who code because a lot of this stuff was marketed toward boys because girls were getting marketed the homemaker stuff, you know, so trying to like fill that gap. But she saw it and she was like, I'm not a boy, but I don't care. I'm interested in this and went with it, which is really cool. And her family encouraged her up, which is also very cool.

She did great in school, obviously. There's something to punctuate there, which is like, if you I don't think it's like a I think it's like I think it's like a character trait but like I think like if you're naturally told over and over again

that this isn't for you and you can't do it then you're probably naturally going to divert away from that thing yeah but she didn't like nobody knows you know what like my family was like the opposite of being like super into sports and wanting to like us be involved in sports

And so I sucked at sports. Right. And I probably would have sucked at it because, like, genetically, Iranians aren't known for me. Great sportsmen. Like, I don't think of any famous sportsmen who are Iranian. But if they told me you're going to be the next great NFL player, maybe I would have, maybe that would have happened for me. Yeah. This is all about me just, like, trying to re- I'm so sorry.

Relive my story. Anyways. No, no, no. But, yeah, exactly. So, like, if you're not encouraged to do something, it is, it makes sense. that you would fall off doing that thing, even if you showed natural interest in it in the beginning. But props to Valerie's family, she was encouraged to do this.

She went to Morgan State University, which is in HBCU in Baltimore. She graduated in 1964 at the age of 21, and right away she got a job at NASA. She developed computer data systems to support satellites. And like, what does that mean? I don't know. Like, what is the computer data system to support satellites?

Yeah, I didn't know the word. satellites back then right right but that's my next point the satellites are pretty new so the first satellite was like 1956 and so this is you know less than 10 years later um and they're very important because of the cold war obviously so like satellites are becoming a big a big deal and obviously today there's like approximately a billion of them right doing everything so starts working on satellites and it's like the very beginning this is like computers are the size of the room stuff that you like hear like legends of you know like someone during the 60s is always like someday you can be able to carry a computer in your pocket and everybody's like there's no way you know and then here we are

um so later in 1970 from 1970 and 1981 she led a group of people she had about 50 people under her it was called the land sat image program so that's also huge because she's only 28 and she's leading this program that's huge and what it is and I'm going to try to explain it. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't even know what it is. I don't even know if it's impressive because I have no idea what it is. It's that many people at all. But so here's what Lancet is. It's super important and it's still around. Essentially, it is satellite imagery of the Earth that we take for granted. Like there were people during this time that were like, you don't need satellite images of Earth

because you have airplanes. So like, just let an airplane take a bunch of pictures of Earth. You don't need to zoom out to take it from a satellite. But they were like, yes, we definitely do. So I, like, ask Chad G. Beheed explains me like I'm a child. I'm like, how do I understand this? Like what this is? So the pictures that we have of the Earth, like Google Earth, and when you see, like, the Earth in like one big circle, that's not one picture.

That's like thousands of pictures all put together like a puzzle piece to be able to see that picture. The very first actual photo of the entire Earth was in 1972 by the astronauts on Apollo 17. It's called the Blue Marble. It's very pretty. But you can't zoom in on it. You know what I mean?

You can't enhance, enhance, enhance to see someone in their garden. But you can do that now because of Lancet. So, all right, keep going, keep going. Okay. So what it does is it takes pictures of land, water, mountains, and cities. It is the satellite that has a Lancet, like, camera on it, is 438 miles above the Earth. and it's important because it is showing how the earth is changing over time. So, sorry, real quick.

Are we talking about like a single camera on a single satellite? Yes. It's one satellite who this is their job. This is that satellite's job. And I will tell you, well, let me just skip to this part. There have been nine Lansat satellites. The first one launched in 1970, I think, 1971. The last one, Lansat 9 is the one that's up right now.

It launched in 2021. And then the next one is called Lansat Next. And that won't be launched until 2031 if we're still alive. Is it because they're going to update the technology? I think so. Yeah. Because they've been, I mean, in the 50 years, they launched nine of them. And then they're going to wait 10 more years to launch the next one.

So they're probably just like working on something. Got it. Okay. Alien technology that try to sneak in there, you know. Love it. So here's what it does. It takes pictures of the earth. That's important because they've been able to see when forests grow and shrinks.

That's why they can catch people doing, like, illegal logging in places like the Amazon and places where people are doing things they shouldn't be doing to places like that. It can also, it's been really, really important for checking if crops are healthy, like, on a big scale. So you can, like, see all of the crops in a state. You can see all of the crops in America and, like, see what color they are and what color they are over time compared to other years of the past. so that you can tell how, like, the crops are going to be outputing. Yeah, that makes sense. It can spot wildfires.

It can also track where animals live and protect their homes. So, like, it can see, like, oh, we have this big group of animals moving from this spot to another spot and, like, warn people and protect them and protect their habitats. And it can also see how cities have grown in the past, you know, 50 years. So it's really cool to be able to see, like, the pictures of the Earth 50 years ago and today and compare them. And then continue to do that kind of. forever will be really helpful. Isn't that cool? I'm thinking through the logistics here.

Like, hold on. So this thing is taking these pictures. So what is it like some algorithm is telling it this information is important for the wildlife people versus the farm people? Probably now, yes. I feel like before, like maybe before like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, algorithm or invented, but like I feel like maybe before it was like you had to code it. like put it to get back together when it got back to Earth somehow.

But like, yes, during that, like now it can just take pictures of everything. And then it can also look at the pictures under different, like, different color lenses and, like, ways to look at it. So, like, it can pull out plants that are healthier by making them greener. It can, like, tell the health of the plants. It can also tell if a volcano is super hot underneath with, like, thermoimaging. So it can start to predict volcanic eruptions. Dude, humans are amazing.

I can't believe I'm a part of the species. I know. I could also tell if like water is dirty or clear based on the light reflections. So we can do all sorts of things to like warn us about things and study the way that the earth is changing. If you Google Valerie Thomas, you will see a wonderful picture of her from 1979. She has like this incredible afro and like she just like looks so cool. But she's standing in front of a bunch of like reels of film. and that was like the early Lansat data tapes like the information would come back and they'd like record the data on tapes and then like configure it to make it into an image and all those things but it was like a very physical process in like a computer size of a room with like a card oh yeah okay now you know the thumbnail is just like her with a chalkboard behind her yeah then you open it's like I see the reels now yeah and that's cool so there are other satellites to take pictures of the earth there's one call the geostationary operational environmental satellites.

They take pictures of the Earth in real time to track weather. So if you see like a hurricane forming above the Earth, like that's what that is. There's the moderate resolution imaging spectrodometer. That one takes pictures of the planet every single day. And then there's one called Centennial 2 from Europe Space Agency that takes really good pictures as well. So those together with Lansat and with,

with NASA create the images that we see on like Google Earth. So the Google Earth picture, there's one called the blue marble, which is a super detailed picture of the Earth that you can like zoom in on. Like if you're ever like on Google Earth and you want to like start all the way out and zoom all the way in. Those are pictures that Lancet helped to make in addition with these other satellites that are up there now. How is not Google did that? They just like procure it from other places too. Got it.

Yeah. So now it's 1976. Lancet 1 is out, Lancet 2 went out, and Valerie is learning. She does do more schooling that I will tell you about. But she goes to a seminar and she sees a thing where a concave mirror, which is like a spoon, sees a light bulb. Even after the light bulb has been unplugged,

it sees that it's on for like a second. She was like a second where the mirror is still kind of hold. the image. And this is like, do you remember doing this at school where you like look at yourself in a spoon or upside down? No. So later, look at yourself in a spoon. You'll be upside down. And then there's also a part where if you're looking yourself at this in a spoon at the right way or like a perfect mirror that's like concave towards you, so it's like leaning out, where your image will be kind of 3D. It'll kind of feel like it's outside of the mirror. So, like, Fun House mirrors do this where you'll, like, see something in a mirror and almost looks like you can grab it.

Yeah. I know Funhouse mirrors. Yeah. So she saw. You're speaking my language that are not, like, doing science experiments. But that is a science experiment. Yeah, that's fair. So she sees this and she's like, that's cool.

But what else could you do if you could, like, bring science into it and bring computers into it, not just the mirror itself? So I don't want to bring up that holograms have been around for a very long time. and one thing that I saw that was fun is there's a thing called Pepper's Ghost made by a man named like John Pepper in the 1800s and he would like use it to scare people in the theater so it was like a reflection of something not off of a mirror but off of like glass so it looked 3D

so kind of like what you see when you're in the like haunted mansion you know yeah in Disneyland so that kind of thing had been around for a long time but she was like how can we add computers into this and like do more with this light and with this like shape of the mirror. And I wrote, she said that because she's a scientist. And she's like, how can we bring science into this?

So by the way, she also gets her PhD. She goes to GW and to the University of Delaware. Later, she goes to Simmons College Graduate School of Management. So she has a bunch of degrees. But in the late 1970s, she invents a thing called an illusion transmitter. So the illusion transmitter can send 3D images to different places. So what it does is it like takes a picture of something with that like mirror getting that 3D image and then sends that picture to another, another machine and projects it onto a mirror so you can like send a 3D image other places. That sounds like Willy Wonka.

Yeah. It is a little bit like the like the mic TV. Yeah. Yes. delusion transmitter can. Let me say it again what it does. It takes that 3D image that is created by like a concave or convex mirror. Hold on.

Let me figure out which one I mean. Convex versus concave. Concave, because concave is rounded inwards. So a concave mirror. And something and the reflection shows like a 3D image. So the illusion transmitter can take that 3D image and then bring it to another thing like Mike TV from Blywanka. So like essentially like if you and I were on Zoom right now, what we were 3D is what it can do. That's fun.

Yeah. Also a spoon is technically concave and con. Exactly. So if you look at what, maybe if you look at the convex side, you're upside down and the concave side, you're like in it. Right. Go get a spoon, everyone. Pause, we'll wait. So, that's super cool.

And she received a patent for her illusion transmitter on October 21st, 1980. It's still used today. Like the science behind it is used today for all kinds of cool things. So it's used for 3D organ visualization so that doctors can see an organ and they can see it outside of someone's body and look at it without having to go. without like touching their body parts you know um they can also plan um procedures by looking at someone's bodies like if you're this is stuff that you see on tv where they show you like a 3d image of someone's body when they're getting ready to do something that's what that's all from the illusion transmitter it also works for like medicine like like from far away so like you can for telemedicine

you can see people's entire bodies see their organs see things like from you don't have to be with them to be able to to do it um it's also used a in concerts and events. Remember when Tupac ended up at Coachella? Oh my God. That was so cool. That company went bankrupt. That's so sad.

That's horrible. They did the coolest thing in history and they went bankrupt for it. I am not chill when I'm at concerts. I would have lost my fucking mind. I would have lost it. Snoop Dog was on there doing the quip log with him. I just like would have lost my mind. I do not think I would have survived.

Same. Same. I would have been down there with you. Yeah. Um, they used it. So they developed by Microsoft, there's a thing called hollow portation, which is like hologram meetings. There's that. People use it for like interacting with 3D models, um, a lot of medical stuff. A lot of data, um, storage and security things. So if you transmit something via a hologram, it takes up less data than other ways somehow. And when they're the example that, um, that I got the, the, it looks, like every movie where you see the future like minority report where your computer is in front of you but it's clear you know and you're like moving your hands in the air like that is all

possible and it can be possible because of this invention like it's not like fully realized yet I hope that's what that's what we're like even realized because minority report sounds horrible well I just mean like the right the technology you know what I mean um also like the military uses it for enhanced situational awareness so they can like see what's happening in other places and they can like go around corners and like do things so it's super super cool and definitely like still used today so there's like her two huge things but she still has done a ton of stuff in NASA so dr. Thomas worked as the

associate chief of the space science data operations office also she had headed the NASA space science data coordinated archive which is essentially in the 80s taking two computer facilities and putting them together, which was, like, a lot harder than, like, sharing on Google Drive, you know? Right. Right. She was, when she was there, she was also the Space Physics Analyst Network director from 1986 to 1990. So basically, she helped oversee one of the first computer networks. She went, when she joined that department, they had 100 computers. When she left, four years later, they had 2,700 computers.

Because it was like that time where, like, it was happening so fast. she helped create the internal network inside of NASA. She retired in 1995, and when she retired, her roles were she was the associate chief of the NASA Space Science Data Operations Office, the manager of the NASA Automated Systems Incident Response Capability, and she was on the Space Science Data Operations Office of Education Committee. So, super cool. Yeah, she had a lot going on.

Yeah. Currently, she mentors, so she's mentored through. the mathematics aerospace research and technology program she mentioned mentored students in summer programs at the goddard space flight center she also judges science fairs which made me think of this because like our um the people who judged our science fair were like the curator of our local museum and like a science teacher from the high school which is so cute you know but she judges like national science fairs um she works with um the women in science and engineering program she also worked at the UMBC Center for Multi-Corps. I laughed at this. She's associate at the UMBC,

which is University of Maryland, Baltimore County, Center for Multicore Hybrid Productivity Research. I don't know what the fuck that means. Taylor, I don't know what like 97% of the titles that you've read out to me mean. So it shows my education. She's received like several awards. One of them is a Goddard Space Flight Center Award of Merit and the NASA Equal Opportunity Medal. So she did, So many cool things. And just to end, a couple of things that you can do to try her science at home is you can do the metal spoon thing. So if you hold the curb side towards you, you'll be upside down. If you flip it back, so you're looking at the concave side, you'll still be right side up, but smaller.

And that's like part of the thing that she did. And then also, a lot of the stuff she, the illusion transmitter, Part of it is from like periscopes. So the idea is similar to a periscope where like a mirror and a mirror. You can like see the thing around the corner. So you can also, if you want to make yourself a periscope, look around the corner with two mirrors and a cardboard box. I would.

Because you're bending light to create a new, new image, which is super cool. Out of all of things here, I would be the most interested in hearing her talk about how how she found the motivation to do what she did in an environment that was not catered to her or yeah like that's best thing it's like the most impressive like I mean being like here's saying if you if you were culturally instilled with like no limitations it's not that crazy like you would you would you you would be like oh the world's my always starting to do whatever i want but if you're coming in a world where there are limitations and you're like you know what i'll i'll do what she did and see around the corner with the telescope thing you just mentioned like it is um that's a compelling

piece here yeah yeah totally i totally agree this isn't like it's only a couple years after like hidden figures did you see that movie no but i know i know the it was black women in nassar right yeah yeah and like the main character she She's doing calculations by hand with, like, all of this paperwork and, like, Buzz Alderman is like, I'm not going until she says it's okay. But part of the story is, like, she's taking her so long to do stuff because when she has to go to the bathroom, she has to run like a half a mile across the campus to get to a bathroom. Yeah, yeah. Because the bathrooms are segregated, you know. So it's like not long after the bathrooms are desegregated at NASA that she's there.

Even now, I think probably being a woman in NASA would be hard, you know, and any of those, like, science related industry so she's incredibly impressive yeah yeah i should watch that movie it's pretty good i like it i think the movie with um with cuba getting junior and um robert de nero put me off those movies because robert de nero playing like a racist southern general was just like so not believable Yeah, you just, like, feel gross. I'm sure it is. I'm sure that's exactly what that general was like.

It's like, broadcasting. Yeah. That'd be interesting. I would love to, if you ever feel like it doing one of women of NASA would be kind of interesting. Gosh, it would be. It's, I mean, we've talked about, you know, some of the women astronauts, you know, because we met a lot of them during the Challenger episode, you know, because it was like, brand new that women were even allowed because I think in researching the Challenger episode that we did

I was looking at the like the NASA astronaut like class photo and there's like a thousand photos of like a bunch of dudes and like finally there's one girl you know like finally there's one black person and like finally there's one Asian person but like for the most part they look exactly the same like you would expect them to like military guys uh fun all right well thanks for sharing that and I'm going to go right after this to my kitchen and grab a spoon do it and experience the George will be like, what are you doing? Like, this feels totally natural for you to be staring into a spoon for no reason. Do you have anything to read us off with?

I have one. And our dear friend Nadine who lives in Canada, she said she's excited for you to come to Canada. I'm very excited as well. And I'm going to get back in the country, but we'll see. I know, a smidge worried, but fingers crossed. She, you know, she talks about how she pictures Virginia. Hall, like Agent Carter from Marvel, which totally I do as well in the last episode. But also, Nadine has graciously offered to help us with French translations in the past,

and I did not reach out to her, but she did reject to tell me that Croix de Guire means cross of war, that Virginia Hall won from Rance, which makes sense. Oh, nice. Yeah. Nice pronunciation. Thank you for that. Thank you. Thank you, Nadine.

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I have to ask you how to mail people things from the long of time. Sweet. Well, thanks for sharing Taylor. Anything else to lead off with? No. Thank you, Fars. Yeah. Enjoy your martini.

Thank you. Enjoy the inclement letter. Enjoy your sippy cup full of wine. Thank you. Good luck with a. With, would you say inclement weather? Yeah, yeah, it looks pretty bad out there. They say that at school.

So when there's inclement weather, they have to, like, do recess inside. So Florence will look out the window and be like, it looks like inclement weather. So funny. Does she want to do recess inside? No, but it's just so funny that she says inclement weather. Like a grown up. Hi, Miles. So what is that face?

You what? You hate your face? What? You hit your foot. You hit your foot. Yeah. Oh. well doing okay though bud he's gonna survive he'll survive yeah he said i'm dying all right bye wait wait wait

stop recording i'll tell you one thing