Doomed to Fail - Ep 20 - Part 2: Oh The Humanity!!! - The Hindenburg

Episode Date: April 13, 2024

Our final Spring Break episode is on The Hindenburg! Ok, it must have been very nice to fly this Nazi air-bag across the Atlantic Ocean - but the ending was not so great. It was an awful few minutes that will be burned into our memories forever.  Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

Hi, it's Taylor from Dune to Fail. Welcome to our last spring break episode. This one is on the Hindenburg. This is a good one to end with because it's not going to make you want to travel for a smidge. Not that you're going to ever travel on a Zeppelin, like I'm sorry you're not. But let's learn about the Hindenburg. So you probably know that it crashed and it was a zeppelin, which is like a blimp. Same thing. They're a little bit different. It was huge. And the thing that I didn't know until this episode, I'm going to spoil this part for you, is that it was obviously German, Hindenburg, obviously, but it had Nazi flags on it, and it flew over New York City. So the Hindenberg, before it crashed in New Jersey, flew over New York City

with swastikas on it. I just think that's absolutely wild. I didn't know that until I did the research for this one. So hope you had a great spring break. Hope you enjoy this episode, and we will be back next week with new content. Thanks. In the matter of the people of the state of California versus Hortonthal James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. I was thinking. Am I getting too close to history stuff? It's fine. Okay.

If I overstep, you'll tell me, right? I'll let you know. Okay. We have boundaries. Okay. Perfect. Cool. Perfect. Cool. Well, thank you. I'm going to maybe watch some Keystone cops later. It looked. It looked funny. A Buster Keene was in it.

Yeah, he's funny. And then one of Fatty's nephews was in it, too. And so it's just like a cool little time capsule of like the 1920s. Yeah, totally. I love it. Well, I'm actually going further the future than 1920 that is today. I know. Wow. Okay. Yeah. So I was thinking. about you being in ireland and flying there and you had mentioned that you wanted to go to belfast

to see the titanic uh launch from and then i was thinking like what else went from europe to america and like we've been trying to really crack this code of getting across the pond for you know for centuries so another famous um thing that went from from europe to the u.s was an airship called the Hindenberg. Oh, that's awesome. I'm going to tell you about the tragedy of the airship Hindenburg. The Hindenberg was made by the Zeppelin Company, also known as Luftschiff-Bow Zeppelin. It was founded in 1908 by Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin.

So like the guy's name is Zeppelin, which is fun. He was a German inventor, an aviation pioneer, and he was born in July 8, 1838 in Constance, Germany. So it starts off in like the early 1900s and then the Hindenberg, you'll find out crashed in 1937. So that's kind of where the story ends. Count von Zeppelin had a distinguished military career. He was in the Prussian Army during his military service. He gained experience in engineering and aeronautics. So this is like the very beginning of like maybe we can do stuff in the sky.

He went to, he came to the U.S. to observe during the American Civil Civil. war because what happened here is that people use balloons like hot air balloons for reconnaissance for like the first time so like the first time that you could like of another armies stuff that was never never a thing in the history of the world and I definitely remember being a kid and like reading a book about women who would like take their hoop skirts like their big dresses and make them into hot air balloons so that they could do that. that like reconnaissance. I don't know if I just turned up.

I read it. It was like a book around a little. I think that's probably true because during wartime, you know, you like get rid of all your stuff to like help the cause. So, but we just had our balloons for that. And Zeppelin, he came here and observed them. He worked with the French and other countries to perfect his ideas. And he eventually invented the airship.

So he, so just for the record, Count Ferdinandne Van Zeppelin passed away in 1917, team, which is about like nine years after he started his company. The first successful flight of a Zeppelin, the LZ1, took place on July 2nd, 1900. Eventually, there were more flights. Germany used a zeppelin as an aerial bomber during World War I. They used it to bomb France, the UK and Belgium. It's a very, very German invention. Wait, so did he invent the concept of an airship?

Yes. Oh, that's pretty, like, revolutionary. Yeah, absolutely. It's definitely like, there were like kind of planes a little bit during this time. That was like, that was starting. But it was like, how can we get in the air faster, you know? And that's why he was thinking like a ship. And the only really concept you had for like long distance travel also was a ship.

Ship, yeah. You know, because it takes like 10 days to cross the Atlantic on a ship, like a steamer, you know. So you have that idea that it's going to take a long time and it has to be huge. Right. Did you ever watch Fringe that show? If I did, I don't remember it. Well, two things. Oh, my God, this is like, this is a thing and a thing.

Do you ever watch Hot Tub Time Machine? Oh, yeah. Did you see Hot Tub Time Machine 2? No. Okay, it's better than the first one. It's so good. But one of the sun will go, this is just like fringe. And then everybody else will go, you're a fucking nerd.

And nobody likes you. And nobody likes you. It's so funny. So whenever I think of fringe, I think of that. And then also, so fringe is very complicated, but there's like an alternate universe. And the only difference is that 9-11 didn't happen and there are zepplins. It's hilarious because you like know you're in that universe because you see the, see the twin towers and also there are zeppines. Do you remember in Hot Top Time Machine when that guy went back and he created Lugel?

Yes. So good. And they really was listening to a motley crew song in the car. I only know it, I know it best for being a Motley Lou song. from pot-up time machine Oh man I need to re-watch that now The second one's so good

You have to watch it You've also probably heard That the Empire State Building was planned to be a place where you could drop people off in zeppelins But it ended up being too windy Up there

Makes sense Yeah So the basic framework of a zeppelin Is an oblong shape You know what it looks like It has an aluminum frame Because aluminum is very light It's covered in fabric

The fabric is painted over With a few layers of Special paint and chemicals to make it sturdy. The Zeppelin itself is full of hydrogen. Hydrogen is lighter than air, so it floats, but it's obviously very flammable. Yeah.

When a better gas to use than hydrogen would be helium, but helium is a naturally occurring gas, and we're currently in a helium shortage. During the early 1900s, when the Germans were like, oh, we should try helium. The only people that really had an abundance of helium was the United States, and we would not give it to them. Okay. So they had no choice but to use hydrogen.

Yeah. Right now, scientists estimate that at the current rate of global conception, we have enough helium for like another 100 to 200 years and then it'll be over. No more balloons. In 300 years, yeah, no balloons. A birthday parties. Future kids. Yeah. That's to be you. Yeah. Oh, my God. And that along with how we feel about clowns is going to completely destroy the clown community. It's going to be over. Absolutely. There's no helium. we wouldn't give it to them because it's the early 1900s and we don't trust them and so it's filled with hydrogen

there's essentially like 16 giant balloons in the middle of the zeppelin filled with hydrogen there's fins that do the directions on like the sides and the back to help it go up and down there's like an engine and some like propellers there's a control room it has wheels like a like a ship wheel to keep it steady and to keep go up and down so the captain kind of works in there in some cases like in the hindenberg there's passenger cars there's a restaurant like also in indiana jones jumper that part of indiana jones when they're getting on the airship and then he's like no ticket because he punches that guy the other window i believe that every time i leave this podcast my man that's like seven more hours of media consumption for me so you know whatever it's pre-plane travel but planes are close um the problem

right now is they don't know how to press press pressurize an airplane so it has to fly low and that it takes a long time to go and it's very dependent on the weather because now you know you fly above the weather but you couldn't do that then the zeppelin also was not pressurized so it was also pretty dependent on the on the weather and then there was also some water like a whole bunch many tanks of water in it that they could like that they could ballast out so like dump up the water so that it would go up and down so all kinds of ways to make it move there's not see flags on the side of this thing? I want to get to that. No, that's the craziest part, I think.

Okay, good. Sorry. So it sounds scary and kind of fun. The current Zeppelin that you might think of would be the Goodyear blimp. And Goodyear blimps were actually just balloons, like a big hot air balloon until 2014, when they started getting remade as helium zeppelium zeppelins. Goodyear actually works with Germany's ZLT Zeppelin Luftschink, which is the same company that Zeppelin started. So the company is back in making zeppelins, and that's what Goodyear worked with to make these new Goodyear like blimp zeppelins.

After World War I, the Treaty of Versailles told Germany they couldn't make any more zeppelins for their military, and they made them destroy all of them. So the company continued and did passenger zeppelins. And then after in World War II, they built the V2 rocket for the Nazis, and the company dissolved right before World War II ended. but they had some money kind of set aside, and it was re, re, like, created in the 1990s. So, yeah, it's a very Nazi thing, like you were saying, which is not what I remembered. Are you going to go into more detail about what the passenger experience was on the Hindenberg? Yeah. Okay.

Then I will suspend questions. Going back to the beginning, even though it sounds scary, because you're, like, in this big, huge, huge thing, zeppelas are actually a pretty safe way to travel. For the first 30 years or so, there are a few accidents, but Germans are very confident that this is, like, this is it. This is the way to travel. One notable Zeppelin was the Graf Zeppelin in 1929. It flew around the world. On August 7th, 1929, and it left from Friedrichshafen, Germany, and it took 21 days to travel all around the world.

It stopped in the Soviet Union, Japan, the United States. People were super excited because they had done this traveling fastest anybody had ever traveled around the world. There were a couple accidents. Some of the 1900s were people crashed and nobody died. There was one in 1910, the LZ7, known as the Deutsche Land caught fire and crashed during a test flight. Two people died. In 1913, the LZ20, known as a Zeppelin L2, crashed and all 28 crew members on board died. And then in 1933, the USS Akron, which was not a Zeppelin, but an airship because it was from the United States, encountered severe weather, and they crashed. 73 people died in that one. So there are accidents, but also like what transportation isn't perfect. You know, there's like one story where a Zeppelin disappears over the ocean, like it never made it. But like that happened the other day with that Malaysia airline flight. So. Yeah, I was going to say also like, I mean, by compare, I mean, planes couldn't have been super reliable, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. So I don't, yeah, I don't think it's like crazy.

It's not crazy dangerous. So let's, I'll talk about the. Hindenberg itself and what was it happening inside of it. It was named after the German president, Paul von Hindenberg. Hindenberg is the guy who appointed Hitler as chancellor. Bad move. Bad move. Yeah, bad move. It is one of the largest airships ever constructed.

It was completed in 1936. It was 803 feet in length, so like five passenger planes, like really big. The inside the ship itself, there was like the gondola, which is the part that like you see that hangs off the bottom. that's where like the captain was and and um the crew where they could like guide the ship the passenger quarters were kind of inside the balloon part on the bottom like layered on the bottom and they had windows that were like curved going out so if you were like in an egg sitting on the bottom of the egg you know what I mean flat there were two decks a deck and

the decks had sleeping quarters they were really small like a small little room with bunk beds and then it had like there's a bathroom there was and then there were like some lounges places where you could you know hang out so also for the rest of the ship because that's only a tiny part of it where the passengers were for the rest of it you know it's like it's this big space with these big balloons of gas and there was a corridor that went through the balloons and in the middle of that there were some rooms for storage and for the crew so it must have been like really dark and loud and scary inside of that corridor it sounds slug Gary is shit. Yeah. It's a thing is huge. It's only windows are on the side. Yeah. So you could like walk like, you know, 800 feet and it was like dark tunnel surrounded

by flammable gas. Oh, yeah. Boy above the ocean. Yeah. There's also a reading and writing room to send telegraphs. So you could like read and send messages to people in that room. And there was also a smoking room, which people think is funny and like, it's definitely funny, but people couldn't handle being on a three-day trip and not smoking.

like that was the problem with the graph zeppelin like it was like people were like I can't I'm not going to go on this trip for we could not smoke a cigarette so they made a room that was pressurized and you had to go in and be smoking there there was one electric lighter allowed on the entire thing you weren't allowed to bring in matches or lighters or anything like you were like searched before you got on and you could smoke in that room the smoking room is not the problem it's not the thing that exploded it just like happened to be a room where you could smoke on this like bomb essentially yeah right right I like you phrase that. Smoke inside this bomb. That's great. Yeah, yeah. A safe way to smoke inside a bomb. There was a bar that had paintings of flamenco dancers on the side. There was a lounge with a piano.

The piano was specially made out of aluminum to be lighter than a regular grand piano because otherwise it would be too heavy to be on the ship. There is a website that I'll share called on airships.net. There's a lot of pictures of the inside of it. So it's like a nice, like luxurious way to travel. So it's a really nice lounge. the windows are kind of on the side looking down so you could look down the rooms are small but it's a short trip it's like two and a half days so people would you know be able to go on it and then just like kind of hang out and then be across the bottom it seems like most of anything pasture related would have to be inside of the actual balloon yes so the angle is tiny yeah it's inside the balloon if you look at the picture of the hiddenberg you see little tiny windows at the bottom of the balloon those are the windows from the passengers the passenger decks.

Yeah. So they were like in the bottom of the balloon. They weren't in the gondola, which I thought. Right. But they weren't. Yeah. A ticket on the Hindenburg, one way, was approximately $450, which is $9,400 today. Wow.

So it was like a luxury thing. It can cross the ocean in two days. Ships take like a week. Before 1937, the Hindenberg made 17 round trips to and from Germany, 10 to the U.S. and seven to Brazil. Super successful. No problems. Now it is May 3rd, 1937, and Hindenberg is about to come to the U.S. again.

1937 is a crazy time to be in Germany. Hitler was appointed chancellor in 1933. The Nazis are getting worse and worse and worse. It's very totalitarian. It's a year before Kristallnacht when they started to be very publicly violent towards Jews, but they've been doing terrible things for now, for years now. There's propaganda. There's the Gestapo.

the SS. It's a year before the official outbreak of World War II, but Germany is starting to invade other countries. So it's like, it's starting gearing up for war. Someone actually wanted to rename the Hindenburg, the Hitler, which is like, unbelievable. But also, like, Hindenberg isn't a good guy, but it just doesn't have the same like tone as they mean of the Hitler. The visceral reaction isn't quite there. Yeah, and not the same. So this is the thing that I think is crazy. There's like very scary propaganda posters that show

like the Hindenburg and Zeppelins with the swastika, with like the eagle with like the scary German things. Do you remember when we went to that German propaganda exhibit at the library? So it was at the LA Public Library like several years ago but we went and it showed a bunch of the propaganda and then some of the takeaways

were like imagine what they could have done with the internet. You know like it could be exponentially more scary now and then also like this happened because good people were like it's no big deal and then it got out of control and then it was too late you know so it was like a hell that was a very good message like you have to stand up right now before so it there is something unusually daunting and scary about this thing with nazi symbology all over it because it's just a giant I mean it looks like a missile like it looks like a giant bomb yeah big silver thing yeah totally and like swastikas are fucking scary like they were like hearing the word hitler like you're afraid it's a scary symbol to see so the hindenberg leaves germany on may 3rd 1937 97 people were on board they approached the u.s on may 6th so three days later they're heading for lakehurst new jersey and that's where the landing strip is and where they can land there's also a lot of reporters there

the zeppelin company really wanted reporters to be there whenever they landed this was the first flight of the season. So they wanted everybody to, you know, record it and be like, Zeppelins, they're awesome, you know. So the weather starts to get bad. It starts to get rainy and starts to get kind of windy. And so to delay their landing, so they swing by New York City. And this is a part that's fucking insane because they flew an airship with swastika on it over New York City. Like, that blows my mind. Yeah, but at that time, there was just a country's flag, right? It didn't no i know yeah but yeah but you like kind of knew like i feel like people didn't not know it wasn't like zero you knew that like and also people were still probably mad at germany since we just did this

right right you know the empire state building was built in 1931 so people were could have been on top of the empire state building 100 or so stories up like watching this and i have video of it that i'll i'll share when i was living in new york city i worked at a hedge fund and i was on the 38th floor of a building overlooking um central park it was beautiful at an awesome view. I saw two crazy things from being up there. I saw the space shuttle being brought to DC on top of an airplane. I remember what happened. It was like hugging it. It was super cute. I saw that too, actually. Yeah. So I watched that out the window. And I also saw the miracle on the Hudson plane in the in the Hudson. You saw that landing? I didn't see it crash, but I saw it floating.

And I knew it was happening because my friend Juliana from work, she had left work early to go home to New Jersey, and she was on the ferry that pulled people out of the water. Wow. So she was literally giving people her coat and pulling them out of the water, but I saw it floating from the building that I was in. So you see crazy things. One experience. I had never heard that it had swastikas on it, the Hindenberg had swastika.

So that kind of blew my mind. If you do Hindenberg in New York City, would you see it? Yeah. There's a five-minute newsreel from Britain. I'll send you the link and you can see it and it shows it like a video wow yeah that's kind of crazy so the weather's getting it looks it looks like an active aggression it doesn't look like that's what I'm saying it's scary like it's scary and and they've they've used zeppelin's to bomb you know the UK during World War one like they've used them for that thing so now it's

heading back towards New Jersey it took it was about a 12 hour delay that they had because of weather. So kind of like floating around, trying to figure out when they can land. The captain, Max Proust, is attempting to maneuver the airship for landing. It took about three hours to get from New York to New Jersey. So technically they could have waited more because they don't really like, they kind of float up there for indefinite amount of time, but they wanted to to land and get going. There are passengers waiting to return to Germany. So they were going to flip it around and go right back to Germany. So they started to, as they start to kind of go into New York, into New Jersey, the back of the Hindenburg is a little low, like lower than you'd expect

to be. So they start dropping some of the water ballasts to kind of get it to go up. You don't know exactly what was happening because there isn't like a black box of recording, you know, so you don't know exactly what they were thinking. They could have potentially like has sent a guy back to like check on it, what was going on inside of it. They dropped their anchor lines. So they dropped their anchor lines and those hit the ground and approximately four minutes later, flames erupted and that's what you see in the newsreels is the is it is a burning so have you heard Herbert Morrison's live account oh yeah the humanity okay I'm going to read it in a second but also do you remember in like elementary school learning about war of the worlds oh yeah yeah the um horse walls yep

yep and they like make it seem they did when I was like in third grade like people were dumb for believing that war of the world was was happening and that it was like their fault but If you've ever really listened to it, it's fucking scary. It sounds like a newsreel. You wouldn't know that it was someone acting. The only thing that really kind of weird is like the time doesn't make sense, but I don't know how you would know it wasn't real. I mean, that form of entertainment didn't exist. So like, why would you, yeah, why would you ever assume it wasn't real?

Yeah. So, okay, I'm going to do my best Herbert Morrison impression. Let's hear it. Ready? Okay. So he's with Charlie, he's engineer. Charlie is his like engineer and Herbert Morrison is a reporter from Chicago. So he says, it's starting to rain again.

The rain sucked up a bit. The back motors of the ship are just holding it, just enough to keep it from. It's burst into flames. It's bursting into flames. And it's falling. It's crashing. Watch it.

Watch it. Watch it, folks. Get out of the way. Get out of the way. Get out of the way. It's burning. It's crashing. It's crashing.

It's crashing. Terrible. Oh, my. Get out of the way. Please. It's burning. Bursting into flames. And the, it's falling.

And the mooring mass and the folks between, oh, this is terrible. This is one of the worst catastrophes in the world. Oh, it's flames crashing. Oh, four or 500 feet in the sky. And it's a terrific crash leaves, and gentlemen, it's smoke and it's flames now. And the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring mast. Oh, the humanity. All the passengers screaming around here, I told you, I can't even talk to people. Their friends are on there. I can't talk, ladies and gentlemen, honest, it's just laying there, a mass of smoking wreckage. And everyone can hardly breathe and talk on the screaming lady. I am sorry, honest, I can't hardly breathe. I'm going to step inside where I cannot see it. Charlie, this is terrible. I can't. Listen, folks, I'm going to have to stop for a minute. because I've lost my voice. This is the worst thing I've ever witnessed. And that was three seconds. Wow. That feels, that really, like, puts you there in the moment.

I mean, the way you read it really well, because, like, I could feel the panic in the way you read it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I didn't even think about, like, people are waiting for their friends with, like, the welcome home signs, you know, and they're watching it explode. It's crazy. The frame, the flame started in the tail rapidly spreads through the shape. the hydrogen ignited, fireball, 30 seconds, and it's gone. People were jumping out of the cabins, people on the ground running and screaming. 36 people died, 13 passengers and 22 crew members, and one worker on the ground.

So a fair amount of people, more than half people did survive. Yeah, because it was, wasn't it like close to the ground already? So it's like it, and I would imagine as the flames are running through the thing, the gas is like gradually escaping, not like it's just like gone and then you're dropped to the ground. I'd imagine they hit the ground harder than you'd want it to, but not like insanely hard. Well, it didn't, because it was, it did, like, it didn't like, you're right. It didn't like crash into the ground, like a plane crashed into the ground. It kind of like floated to the ground, but also like it's a fireball on top of it.

You know, it's like all fire and then like a little bit where passengers are and that fire is on top of them. So yeah, they were pretty close to the ground. They were about 200 feet above the ground. People did start to jump out of it. some crew members even like threw ropes out and like mattresses to help people get out. There's an emergency hatch. They slid down. So some people were like on their way running out of it and then it crashed on top of them and they were burned.

In the British Pathy News thing that I'll send you and share, they show that happening and it's awful. Like people are running out of it and then it just crashes on top of them. And it's really awful. So the mystery is why does this happen? Like no one really knows 100% what happened. and I'll show you I'll share that footage with you but all the footage is from one

spot because that's where the reporters were. They were in like the reporter area so they all have it from one angle but there are a lot of videos of it. They show people jumping and running and being smashed so there had to be a spark somewhere obviously to start the fire. Some of the theories are like maybe it was sabotaged because

people don't like Nazis. That could be a part of it. Maybe something exploded in the back maybe there was a leak. So the of the ship was like getting lower so maybe the hydrogen was leaking that you can't really you didn't really know and then i watched this documentary on pbs that's like relatively new about a new theory a man named howard shank his uncle was there and had a video camera like it was like a wind-up video camera but he was in a different spot so we got a different angle from the hindenberg that no one has seen before and from that they did some they flew to germany with like some like air some experts

And they did some experiments. And what they discovered, and I think this is pretty convincing, is because it was raining, the ropes were wet, and at the top of the Zeppelin was wet as well. And when they dropped the ropes and the ropes hit the ground, it like connected it. And then the whole thing became electrical. And then once that happens, the water creates a spark. So it's like why you don't have like a toaster of the oven, the bath. You know what I mean? And so when they did it, when they did their experiment, they electrified the rope and then the top of the Zeppelin, they got it wet.

And it took four minutes to catch on fire, which is exactly what happened on the So I'm pretty convinced by that. I thought it was really interesting. So because they were like rushing to go down in the rain and just like the way it connected happened to like cause a spark. So after, but they don't know. And we'll never really know for sure because all the evidence is destroyed. It's just, like, destroyed. There's nothing. There's just, like, aluminum, burned aluminum girders or whatever.

So after this, there were no more transatlantic Zeppelin flights. It was over. People still had, you know, like a ticket to go back that day. They didn't, obviously. Plan started to get more sophisticated. And then also, like, we're folding into World War II. So there's other things to think about. The last Zeppelin airship constructed by the company was the LZ-130, Graf Zeppelin 2.

it flew in 1938 but it didn't go across the ocean again it was used for like sightseeing and Nazi propaganda during World War II right I kind of think that I would go I would go on one because it seems like so weird like I feel like we don't even talk about like the two days over the ocean on this that's crazy it sounds super scary but like fun it definitely sounds scary yeah so I mean also at that hedge fund that I worked at in New York they were like companies who wanted you to like invest in them would like give you stuff and two of the guys I worked with got to go on the good year blimp and they said it was really really loud

that was like their biggest takeaway because like you're below you're like low and the windows can be like opened you know so like it's like a loud thing so now you can kind of do that but and I think you can also do like sight seeing blimps like around obviously but I also feel like I would not go on a hot air balloon so I don't know I read something that I'm looking at us up. There are only 25 blimps in the world right now.

Huh. Yeah, they're super rare, apparently. Only half the more in use. Oh, I guess they're different, right? Yeah. Like, a blimp is like a balloon, like a big balloon. And a Zeppelin has like the, whatever, the like metal inside. There were 119 zeppelin's built.

I mean, there wasn't a lot of either, basically. Yeah. And if any exist. They're so big. Like, where do you put them? Yeah. Yeah, the whole parking thing is really wild. um how you're supposed to just like tie it up to it i don't know it's cool it's cool i would definitely

i would love to write on the good year blimp i don't think i do as up one i do the good year plan that's fair i'd like to do like a i think it'd be cool like sleep in as up one do like a one i don't know it's possible but it sounds pretty cool there's something about like vast open spaces that just scares the hell out of me no i think that you're inside that giant eight what is it 800 feet yeah scary. So scary. So scary. I don't know. But I feel like it's safe. I feel like now it feels like it would be safer because they have like computers and also I would want a parachute. Like I don't know how to do that. Wait. Wait. So there's actually a page on the Goodyear website on how to get on the blimp. Oh, can you like sign up? Oh, they're my invitation only. All right. Let's get on that list. Okay. We're going to have to call our agent and tell them. Yeah. That's what we want. That's our next step. I definitely don't want to be a blimp named doom to fail

I want to be a blimp that's like very successful yeah we're doing great so yeah that's it they don't might know what happened Zeppelin's kind of went away they're kind of like a cool nostalgia thing to think about like that we thought

it was going to be the thing and planes ended up being the thing I think a red flag for this and for a lot of like transatlantic travel like the Titanic is like you know you want to go to Europe and you want to come to the U.S. You want to connect it,

you want to be fast and luxurious and like super fun so one more thing that i wanted to mention real quick is another thing that they tried to do that ended up failing to go back and forth from europe and the u.s was the concord oh yeah over the concord so yeah it's a couple of bullets on the concord it was a supersonic jet that flew from the u.s to to mostly to n yc to london also flew to paris and singapore the first fight was in 1976 the first fight was in 1976 the fast Fastest flight was on February 7th, 1996. The Concord flew from New York to London in two hours and 52 minutes at the speed of Mach 2. That's so crazy.

Right now it takes seven hours to get for that flight. Yeah, I've read a lot about the Concord about how, like, given how fast it flies and how superheeded the air outside gets, the thing, like, is elastic. Like, it expands and contracts, like, dramatically. It has a sonic boom. Yeah. Yeah, and they don't do, they don't go sonic until they hit the Atlantic on the thing. Right, because loud. Yeah, it would just shadow everybody's windows.

Yeah, yeah. So they, it's also very loud. Like I know someone who took it and she said it was very loud because they're going like supersonic through the air. It was also very luxurious, very expensive. It could hold 100 people, only like 100 people at a time passengers. And so because it's so fast, very similar to the Hindenberg disaster, There was one big disaster on July 25, 2000, a Concord crash shortly after taking off from Charlottesagal Airport. What happened was a strip of metal on the runway caused a tire to burst, leading to rupture the fuel tank.

The fuel ignited, mass of fire, loss of control. The aircraft crashed into a hotel, resulting in the deaths of all 109 people on board and four people on the ground. Remember this? The flights were halted. There was a test flight a few days later that had engine failure. It returned safely. But that was the end for the Concord as well. In 2003, it was grounded for good.

They were, you know, super expensive and hard to maintain. They had more fuel than other planes. And, you know, not a lot of people could afford to even take it. So they were like, it's kind of outpriced a lot of people. So just like the Hindenburg, you know, one big thing kind of turned the tide on that form of travel. I wanted to just say that those are some ways that terrible things can happen when you're going across the ocean. but I wanted to tell you that on your way home to enjoy your slow, your slow leisurely flight, but also considering how long humanity has been around and that it took Columbus

10 weeks to get to America in the first place, it's pretty good. We're doing pretty good. I actually thought the flight would hear, I mean, it was about eight hours and easy, easy, breezy. Like, I hate, I hate flying, but I thought it was surprisingly easy to just, like, zone out. I mean, they take care of you, right? Like, you get fed and constantly and watered and all that good stuff. So, yeah. It's not too bad.

No Concord needed. Exactly. Cool. So that's it. I'll share some videos. It's crazy. It's a crazy crash. Real scary.

Yeah. You can see why it's so famous in, like, in history. And also a lot more Nazis than I realized. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't realize there were any. So that was a surprise. Exactly.

Yeah. I knew there were Germans. Like, I forgot that the Germans were Nazis during 1937. There's four good year blimps. Yeah, four good year blimps. Yeah. They even have one in Europe. Oh, good for them.

Shand they don't let people write on it. Austin Taylor, that was cool. Sorry, I'm going to lean back up. I have some corrections from last week's episode, if you have a second. So my father-in-law, a father-in-law is the doctor, and he listens, and he's the best. So he texted me to tell me that I was wrong about chemotherapy. It's not radiation. there's actually two different things there's radiation therapy that's more general where they like put you in front of the machine and like radiation like goes into your body and chemotherapy is more can be more like deliberate and more exact on exactly where it's going so it's it's like not radiation it's like different kinds of drugs that are meant to stop the um the cancer from growing so they both have the same goal which is to kill and change the cancer cells so that they don't grow anymore right now.

Now, there's actually some things that people are working on on biological agents, which are called biologics, and they're used, usually antibodies that treat autoimmune conditions in cancer. So that's sort of like the next step in cancer research and cancer care. And so that is, you know, hopefully coming soon, hopefully going to do something really great. This is a terrible, I'm so sorry, Victor. And then, so yeah, radiation might happen before chemo, the chemo itself is not radiation. Got it. Got it. Okay.

That was a good correction. Yeah, I saw you posted that. You post that on our Facebook page, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Victor. Thank you. You're the best.

Cool. Well, thank you, Taylor. I'll go ahead and kill the recording. Again, I like, subscribe all the good stuff. I'll tell us reporting and this travel will have no impact on our release schedule. Thank you. Thank you, everyone.