Doomed to Fail - Ep 202: Ok Place, Totally Wrong Time - Not so Lucky Dragon #5

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

Let's talk about the unlucky crew of the Tuna Fishing ship Lucky Dragon #5. Thousands of miles from Japan, the crew was laying lines when the US tested its Castle Bravo nuclear bomb in Bikini Atoll. The Lucky Dragon was well within the 'Safety Zone,' which we know is not a thing. They ended up trudging back to Japan, only to slowly succumb to all the radiation they experienced. We ALSO talk about Hisashi Ouchi, who was hit with the largest dose of radiation in history in the Tokaimura nuclear accident. Asking for a friend, why is nuclear power super safe? Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

In a matter of the people of the state of California versus Orenthal James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Then, we are recording and we are recording live, not really, but hi, Taylor, how are you? I'm just trying to test out radio voices. I'm good. I'm good. How are you? These radio voices are working for you or anybody out there?

No, I like it. all right you're you're in radio yeah yeah but like Howard Stern in the early days um but yeah let's go and dive in i assume you've had a exciting week weekend holy crap yeah we had Friday there was i live next to joshua train there was a big fire and it was scary like i couldn't smell anything but there was smoke and then they were like saying that we might have to leave just like a bunch of rumors so we definitely packed our bags and got ready to go just in case it was scary yeah i do remember yeah i remember the la wildfires were always an issue when i was there and it sounds like

they're an issue out in your area yeah i just i heard that climate change is getting worse than ever be expected i've heard that yeah yeah yeah yeah cool it's super cool no i um and yeah i was thinking like especially because we talked about turnover last week like the times that i've had to leave my house because I thought that because of an emergency like on September 11th and then like in COVID I left my apartment in LA and I never went back to it you know I'm very fortunate that I had some where to go and all these things but still it's like you know what do you take you know we kind of like we have a go bag that has our passports and our social security cards obviously everybody has that and then I had you know just kind of packed some dresses that I really like and teddy bears I don't know just kind of like just in case I do not have a go bag, unfortunately, but it sounds like I should have one. You have to. Yeah, just have your passport, like your social security card, your, what else do I have in there? Chargers, computers. Yeah, charges, exactly. Chargers, computers.

Like, if you wear glasses, have a second set of glasses. Like, just medicine, keep in there just so you can just, like, leave really fast because you want to leave immediately. You don't want to doodle. Remember, like, in like, L. And in January, there were, like, videos of people, like, in their kitchen with, like, flames out the, out of the window, you know? It's like, dude, you have to leave, like, way before it gets that way, if you can. Like, especially when you're going to be ready. So, anyway, get a go bag.

Just so the stuff that, like, you know, your house documents and things like that. Welcome to our show, which is a doomsday prep show now, partially. Everyone is doomed. Which actually, Taylor's good timing because we thought we were in the middle of a tornado, like, four days ago. I know. that was like the day you got like crazy hail and then California is on fire again Canada is on fire very badly it was insane the hail those so we were in Rachel's car and it has a glass roof

and yeah I took the dog canopy the dog has like a canopy in the backseat that it's like a hammock for him to sit in and I took that out of the bed because the dogs weren't with us and so I took that out and just put it over our heads like this this thing is coming down our heads and in shards any second now it was unbelievable yeah little tacos sitting next to the house blew over completely it looked like an apocalypse it happened it was really no totally terrifying i saw yeah you sent me all those videos of like the the sonic ice hail everywhere which which technically Daniel shepherd thank you again he's the one who sent me that so shout out to to cred um but anyways so i think i'm

going to go first today is that right yes and i haven't even introduced us oh yeah please welcome to doomed to fail. We bring you history's most notorious disasters and greatest failures, history and today, because things are falling apart beneath our fingers. Welcome. I'm Taylor, joined by Farris. Yes, I'm here. I'm going to kick us off. And my baby. And my mom. And my kids are just like sitting here. I have this like three foot square space where I'm like, this is the space where my chair is. Don't hang out in here. And then they're always like, they're like, wrapped themselves underneath, like, in like the spindles of my chair, you know, and I'm like, oh, of course. Of course. It's the things that you don't want them to be doing that they tend to do. Um, but yeah. So I'm going to kick us off today. And I'm actually going to kind of touch on a bit of what you discussed Chernobyl was in my story. And I, and I'm actually going to do a little ending dessert, which is like a mini, story at the very end because we touched on a topic in your topic on Chernobyl that is going

to be kind of relevant here. So I'm going to, I think I want to, I think I want this episode to be titled Lucky Dragon number five. Okay. Remember that down. Thank you. And that is the English translation for Daigu Fukuori. Oh, geez.

Daegu Fuku Riu Maru. Wow. Wow. Like, just, I'm sorry. That was excellent. I'm sorry. Sorry. If anybody speaks Japanese natively, please.

You know what? Don't tell me how bad I did. I already know. So that is the name of a very unlucky Japanese fishing vessel that was working 80 miles southeast a bikini atoll on March 1st, 1954. Oh. Which is when the United States conducted its first ever dry fuel thermonuclear. detonation, which I don't know what it means, but it was a really big boom. I think that I've seen the videos.

Yes, there's a ton of terrifying videos of this. So we're going to dive into what led up to that day, what happened the day of, and what the after effects were. So, as with anything, we're going to go a little bit into world history here. So let's talk about world history at this time. So from 1947 until 1991, when the Soviet Union dissolved, the U.S. and the Soviets were engaged in the Cold War. American nuclear weapons experts concluded that the Soviets were so far behind them

because the U.S. had already deployed Fat Man and Little Boy in 1945 against Japan. They basically assumed that the Soviets would take them until the mid-50s to be able to even build any sort of nuclear capabilities whatsoever. For like power or for weapons? Weapons. Yeah. Nobody cared about power. Right.

It's Cold War. Just clarifying. Yes. Those experts were wrong. Go ahead. No. Those experts were wrong. The USSR detonated their first nuke in 1949. And by 1953, they had a version that could be delivered by plane. Same with the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were. And this kicked off the nuclear arms race between the two countries and their allies,

which for the U.S. cultivated in the Castle Bravo tests, which we all know gay birth to Godzilla, sort of. right yes so to yeah have you ever seen those like pictures of like because godzilla always looks like he's like walking under the water like he must be wearing stilts it is ridiculous every time i see that the way that that that monster is on the water doesn't make any sense yeah he would have to be like five billion feet tall to stand in san francisco bay yeah so to start on castle bravo let's start with the location that was selected bikini atolls so we're going to look at a brief history of the area like super super brief so between 1885 and 1914 the marshall islands which bikini atoll is part of was a german protector that was mostly used for procuring coconuts

for some reason i can't totally figure out why germany was sprinted to coconuts they decided to do this my ties i don't know you know what's so gross a coconut like it's like eating it's so wrong it is no it's gross it like tastes like nothing and awful at the same time uh i'm gonna disagree Taylor on this, write to us and tell us who you agree with. Like, me or Taylor, our government's delicious or bad. So from 1914 and 1944, Japan seized this

protectorate from Germany. In early 1944, the U.S. captured the Marshall Islands during its war against Japan. In 1946, the U.N. created a thing I've never heard of called the trust territory of the Pacific Islands, and that trust was placed under the control of the U.S.

We kind of pause on the history there because that's the only relevant part of this ownership that I really wanted to figure out because I was like, why did they pick this area and why do they do it here? And it made sense to me because when you look at pictures, it's like, it's gorgeous. You should build a resort here, not like drop bombs on it, but that's the way take.

So, hot take, yeah, exactly. More hotels, less bombs. Yeah, more resorts. More lazy, less bombs. I love a lazy river. I just love a lazy river. So, So later on, the U.S. would, not super relevant to this story, but later on, just for everybody's aware, like, the U.S. would dissolve the trusteeship and grant freedom to the three nations that are currently there, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia Palau, and the creation of a new U.S. Commonwealth known as North Mariana Island. So that's the history of this area. Is it near the Mariana Trench?

Yes. It's named after that. No, actually, the trench is named after the Mariana Island. I think you'd discover an island before you discovered a trench. You would be correct and make that assumption. The U.S. in the late 1940s

through the late 1950s decided that they wanted to run nuclear weapons testing at Bikini Atoll with the Operation Crossroads testing that started out. It ended up with like two bombs, but that's irrelevant to our story. They followed that immediately with the Castle Bravo testing,

which is what is the biggest version of the bomb testing exercises here. The reason they want to do it here was Ada controlled it. so they didn't need permission really from anyone the indigenous population was like super super small and weirdly like they seem like they're pretty flexible to like leaving the area although like it wasn't really it was said that it was done because the u.s like made a plea to like the chiefsons there that it was for the greater good that they leave and it would end all wars and it kind of like did

forever though well here's we're going to get into that because because nobody actually knew what the outcome of this testing would be I feel like they just made them leave. It was definitely more of a directive than like a recommendation. Yeah. Let's put it that way. Yeah. It was very remote and was very far off from shipping lanes, which would limit any fallout that could occur.

And since there was nothing there except this like unbelievably beautiful tropical oasis, if the explosion blew it straight to hell, nobody would miss it. That was the theory. Right. Except the people that. Called at home. yes and the animals and the ocean there was no animals after this no i know but there were before before this yes so the site was selected uh next planning for the testing the u.s knew that they were going to be blowing up some very very high yield bombs but like we kind of saw us in the movie

oppenheimer where like knowing how big a bomb is can often be a matter of conjecture like you don't actually know how big the blast is like remember in opanheimer where they're They were like, it might ignite the atmosphere and kill everybody. Like, nobody really knows these things with any degree of. I actually didn't see it. I didn't see it. It was pretty good. Yeah.

If you've heard. Yeah, I feel like most people did. I will probably eventually someday see it. So there was, again, like, there was a little certainty. There's mostly like wide range guesses of how big this bomb would be. Castle Bravo would later be determined to be the biggest bomb the U.S. has ever deployed even up to today. Wow. Yeah.

It ended up being about 700 times larger in yield and destructive power than fat man dropped over Hiroshima. Fun fact, the Soviets did create and detonate a much, much larger bomb. Bravo ended up being a 15 megaton bomb bomb. The Soviet bomb Sarbomba was his name. It was 50 megatons by comparison, huge. Did they do it? Yeah. They fired, they did it.

God, that's awful. Yeah. So anyways, at this, at this point, before they detonated this thing, nobody really knows how big this bomb is going to be the Bravo one. Right. I read a lot about how the design of the Bravo was different from Fat Man. And I even asked Chachapit to kind of explain it to me, which it sort of did and probably also added me to a list. I still don't actually understand it. I think the gist of it that I ascertained is that Fat Man was efficient.

only bomb, whereas Bravo was a fission and fusion bomb. And when the two come together, it creates a thermonuclear reaction. Yeah. So in this case, the U.S. didn't expect a yield of anything larger than six megatons. Still big, but not insanely big. Right. So they put together a fallout map showing zero contamination within a controlled zone. And it was basically like all this modeling around where fallout would happen.

And it was all based on a six megaton bomb. so they were like just stay outside of this zone within this period of time and everything's going to be fine and the weather's going to flow this way and it's going to be great by the time castle bravo was scheduled there was no inhabitant inhabitants on bikini but the other atolls had not been evacuated and those folks weren't even told that they were at risk because they assumed it was going to be a smaller bomb essentially what's an atoll is that like a type of island isn't like the tip of like a volcano that's sticking out of the water.

Oh, maybe. So when the bomb went off and its full yield was realized, occupants on Rangalap Island had skin burns, hair loss, and vomiting within hours of the explosion. Inhabitants of this other island whose name I won't try and pronounce, they would later develop thyroid problems and thyroid cancer.

Prior to the explosion, the U.S. made 50 nautical miles out from the center of the blast site, the safe zone. In reality, the safe zone should have been over 300 miles from the blast site, given how big the yield was. So that brings us

to the main character of our story, the crew of the fishing vessel, Lucky Dragon, number five, which I'm going to refer to instead of the name I said earlier. So this vessel was equipped to fish for various kinds of tuna. After World War II, the Japanese economy was obviously

decimated, and tuna became a primary export as the people there kind of tried to get back on their feet. The Marshall Islands were particularly popular with Japanese fishermen because it had a high concentration of tuna. It also wasn't overfished as parts of the ocean that are closer to Japan are. The Marshall Islands are about 2,500 miles from Japan. So it's not easy to getting there and it's not easy to get back.

But the closer fishing areas were fished out. Like, they'd be, you wouldn't get a lot of stuff there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Their fishing strategy was to use what's called long line fishing, which basically means dropping a line that can be up to 60 miles long into the water with bait and hooks at certain intervals, there can be as many as 3,000 hooks on this thing, and you use it for deeper sea dwelling fish, essentially. The other reason Japanese fishing vessels like to fish here was because it was in international

waters. So the fact that their lines were constantly catching sharks and sea turtles was like irrelevant and didn't really matter because nobody was there from a legal perspective to call them out on it, essentially. So exact details aren't known for. But most people kind of settled on the ship being around 80 miles from the blast radius from Castle Robbins. So well outside, well beyond the safe zone. So 50 miles of a safe zone, they were 80 miles out.

Okay. But they didn't know this is going to happen. They did. They did know what was going to happen. Yeah. Okay. The crew witnessed the blast and thought nothing of it because, again, they knew this is going to happen. And also, the shockwaves in the ocean didn't impact their ship at all.

So, like, whatever. They told us 50 miles fine We're 80 miles out We're totally fine Hours later This fine ash made of sand And vaporized coral Chalk full of nuclear fallouts

Started raining down on them At this point The fishermen knew something was wrong And realized he had to get out of the area But their lines were still down So like we had to collect our hall And if you ever seen The most dangerous job

What is it called? Rough seat? Whatever. You got to make all your money in one sitting You got to make a year's worth of money So if you don't do it, then you're screwed They finished what they were doing

And started heading into shore But given their distance from Japan It was going to take them a while And the symptoms of radiation sickness Kind of hit within the hour Well, also like Aren't the fish radioactive now? Yes.

Which I'll get to. I'm like, I don't think you should take things home with you from that excursion. But they don't know, they don't know any of it. like radio like the effects of radiation we didn't you asked even know what radiation poisoning was was when they dropped the bombs on no i know so like nobody knows for sure what's going on here it would take them nearly two weeks to get home all while their ship was just caked in this radioactive dust they're breathing in the fine particles um at one point like some of the men

were like tasting it to figure out what it was like putting some of it in their mouth which is like not what you should do at all. No, whenever I see that in a movie and they're like, oh, what is this powder? And like they touch it or whatever, what's this thing? And they touch it and they taste it. I'm like, don't do that. Yeah. Usually not a good sign.

Okay. So they would suffer from headaches, generalized pain, burns their skin, nausea, their hair fell out. They would arrive super late on March 14th. So roughly like 13 days, 14 days after the explosion. But it was so late that they couldn't offload the

fish, which was great because by the next morning, when everybody went back, they went back with somebody because they went to the hospital immediately. And then, like, you were suffering from radiation poisoning, so we can't take the fish off this boat. So the fish were just dumped in the ocean. During this testing, it was found that the men's bone marrow contained less than half of that of a healthy person. Right.

So we talked about last time it, like, it, like, affects her bone marrow really quickly. Yep. Yeah. And, yeah, it was very obvious to everyone that. I wrote that a biophysicist concluded this, but at this point they're with doctors, so they could have told them anyways, that there's a radioactive fallout. So

just for anybody that's counting, that is the third time, the U.S. nuclear weapon program has directly impacted Japan. And hopefully Japan, like, it is nuts. On September 23rd, the first crew member would die after

getting meningitis, falling into a coma, getting pneumonia, and then just expiring. Yeah. The rest of the crew with 22 men that were remaining, they were released about 14 months after this, after they were admitted to the hospital. I couldn't find out what happened to all of them, but a lot of the ones I could find died pretty young. There was a lot of liver, stomach and colon cancer, stomach ulcers, a lot of people dying of like these illnesses in their 40s, 50s, some of their 60s. One of them became relatively famous as a nuclear disarmament activist and he had a stillborn

child as well. And there was one guy I found who ended up quitting fishing starting a tofu shop and he lived to be like 97th so like go that route if you're trying to live for a very long time. That makes sense. But

all that to further illustrate why Japan's history with nuclear technology is like so disastrous. I'm going to cap this off with another brief side story. on radiation poisoning the worst radiation poisoning

that has ever been observed in human history which is also a Japanese man I don't know I mean now it makes sense why Godzilla like yeah

I'm from Japan so I'm gonna talk really quickly so I'm gonna cap that story do you have any questions relates to that whole universe well I know that doesn't SpongeBob square pants over there

I don't know I never watched that he doesn't bikini bottom and I think that's like supposed to be like the reason that they're all like that is because of the of the bomb also and wait i actually do have two questions and a toll is a ring shaped island yes like the volcano comes up and then the things around it and then what was the what was the point of it the test just to see how big it was so no sort of that but really the bigger thing was a dick's wean competition between the u.s and the

Soviets because it was a constant mutual assured destruction, which was like, show them you can do it too so that nobody decides to do it. That's why they were doing, that's why the U.S. was doing Castle Bravo. That's why the Soviets dropped Tsar Bomba. It was just to let everybody know that we can do this without actually killing anyone. Yeah. That was the idea. So, but to be fair, like the U.S. has built a ton more, way more capable nuclear weapons, but the capabilities to assess yield are dramatically better than they wore in the 19, 50s obviously and so you don't have to do it you don't have to do it yeah you know it's going to have the impact yeah so let's get to the poor poor guy named hasachi ouchi remember this name i do we talked about it a little bit last time yep um they it was covered in the last podcast episode uh worst ways to die and they cover like a dozen of the worst ways to die that are on record on human history so it's worth a listen for sure but we're going to go into a brief description of what happened here, which is, again, also in Japan, at the first nuclear power plant that was ever built there. It was called Tokai nuclear plant, about 30 miles, 30 to 50 miles.

I can remember which outside of Tokyo, so in that area. On the premises of this plant, there was the facility to convert uranium hexafluoride to enrich uranium to be used in nuclear reactors because you have to enrich the uranium and all that stuff there's a whole process here i watch a lot of videos on what this means i don't get chemistry or no it's hard i don't get chemistry either so i think that that's fair i'll explain it as simply as my little brain can to enrich uranium you're supposed to mix the not enriched uranium with nitric acid but you're supposed to use automatic pumps to precisely measure how much of each substance since this is being mixed wait to keep mixing doing it that way okay

safety precautions this facility were super lax and the demand on production was super high and so instead of mixing it gradually and in small batches they were manually doing this by hand in large quantities to speed things up they had accidentally caused nuclear fission to occur which is a chain reaction of splitting of atoms by doing it with this like haphazard process. There are there were three workers including Hasachi doing this at the time. Hasachi was right next to the tank. He was one feeding it full of the stuff that he was supposed to not be doing manually. He had a colleague next to him who was a bit further out kind of helping him out and there

was another one in a nearby room about a couple of meters over the other side. All three reported seeing bright blue and white flashing lights and immediately realized oh no something bad just happened and they evacuated the area later on it was determined that hasachi was hit with 17 seabirds of radiation eight is a fatal dose like if you get eight then like you're you're basically a dead man walking right so this is the highest amount of radiation ever recorded in human history of a single human receiving wow the guy in the other room stayed in the hospital for several months before being discharged, like he was mostly fine.

The guy next to Asachi died after 210 days. Hasachi died after 83, but not before basically being used as a lab rat by doctors and scientists to observe what the human body can tolerate. What a fucking, what, 83 days. Yeah, he was basically forced to stay alive. Those 83 days, if you look up pictures of him, he looks like basically a skeleton with melted flesh dripping from his bones. like I was trying to understand like what this like it precludes your body's ability to live from happening

which like requires you to have cells split and create new cells that reflect old cells as old cells die like all that goes away like you can't do it anymore he should have immediately died because all of his organs were damaged and he had no immune system left like he was just his body just ceased to function. He was conscious during his multiple blood transfusions through his skin grafts through bone marrow transplants which are crazy painful. Oh my God.

While simultaneously begging doctors to let him die even after suffering a heart attack and in one case having three heart attacks in a single hour he was revived. Oh my God, poor guy. And then it was on the 83rd day that his heart gave out in such a way that they could not revive them and he finally could be able to pass.

Oh, my God, I did, I did just turn off the safe search and see the picture. And is that, is that it? Yeah. Oh, my God, it's awful. Yeah, the one that was leg up. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty gnarly.

Yeah. Yeah, everything's, like, you're melting. You're a melta person. Like, there's nothing there. You're just dying. Every cell that you have is the only cell you're ever going to have again. Right. That's going to die fast.

Oh, I see you were saying. Yeah. so yikes very very gnarly very gross feel really badly for this guy me too but yeah can't shout out the last podcast guys enough go listen to them worst ways to die that sounds fun that must be really old how old is that one of the like pre 200s episodes yeah they're like in the thousands they think of this point yeah that's fun um but yeah that's my story lucky dragon number five cool that's crazy i didn't know that they were there yeah it was a bad event Bad, bad luck.

It was really bad luck because it was 2,500 miles away from Japan. And then they went back to Japan full of nuclear, like, it's like really bad. Right. Like, what are they supposed to do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just, it just occurred to me that all this was like all, like, it was just the U.S. in Japan.

Like, it's like. And I know. And I feel like, you know, you say we were in a place of mutually assured destruction, like we're not in that now. no no that that doctrine never went away like no i mean there's a political i mean that's a strategy and that's been consistent like nobody's disarmed the world yeah so yeah we're still in that spot and possibly will be forever taylor do you want to talk about your new friend that you made online and blue skies cars i had like 17 heart attacks so i you're like satchi ouchi i am a exactly

oh sorry that was in poor taste but i apologize is. But I did. I obviously am a huge fan of Dan Carlin, the historian, even though he insists that he's not a historian. He does hardcore history. It's incredible. And I feel like in my brain, I'm like, he's going to try to block me because I keep mentioning him on blue sky because that's the only place where he actually like is. And I keep like, you know, we did the monster rebellion. And I was like, oh, whatever. And but he has a tour of the South coming up. And I slacked you immediately, and I was like, you have to go to this. And I know you're having problems with the website, but I feel like you'll get it.

You'll figure it out. Yeah, I tried. You worked in tech. I know. I tried nice. It was weird. It was like, you have to register with Paramount theaters. Yeah.

And you register with Paramount theaters. They won't let you through. It's like, I don't know. It's a very illogical thing. But anyways, go ahead. You'll figure it out. But I, because you have to go. But I, so I put on Blue Sky, like, that I sent you emergency gifts.

I was like, you have to go and see. this right now. And then he reposted it and said, this is great. I've gotten somebody requests to visit Southern States. I hope you come out and join me. And I was like, that's awesome. And then there's a morning. Well, I responded something crazy. You know, that like really enjoyed his show in L.A. that I went to. And he wrote back and said, what an amazing thing to tell someone. Thank you so much. I'm like, this is not the first time that I have loved pumped you on Blue Sky, Dan Carlin, but I'm really excited that you did that. So if you go to Blue Sky now, he's a lot. He just, like, reposted us, and it's just so exciting.

Did you read it in his voice? Yes. Dan Carlin said, quote, what an amazing thing to tell someone. Thank you so much. He's got such a good voice for this. That is awesome. So, yeah, I'm, like, very excited, and I've been yelling about it because it's cool and he's cool. So, yeah, Dan Carlin is our friend, everyone.

Yeah, because I did at his L.A. show, that was the one where I, I, like, ran from the balcony down to the orchestra level to ask a question. And, like, people were raising their hands, like, civilized people. And then, like, the microphone man was in the middle of the aisle. And I ran up to him and I, like, shoulder him. And I was like, can I go next. It's like, okay. He's like, well, as the only girl here, yes, you can go next is what he was thinking in at

time. But you really the only girl there? There were maybe 5% women. Interesting. And they were all with a man. So Nicole and I were the only one. women who were there not with a man why wow i assume that was a big theater too yeah yeah um but uh yeah super fun and then i then i also then i also he was eating dinner and i like threw

our stickers at him and made him talk about how much i like to tell my kids about history so i don't remember that but i'm so yes um yeah but i'm excited he's the best and i'm excited for you to figure out the website and go see him in austin he will be dan carlin We'll be in Atlanta, Raleigh, North Carolina, Austin, Texas, and Houston, Texas in August. Yep. Yep. I think it's August 18th. It's August 15th in Austin. 15th. Okay. Yep. Yep. That's right. Yeah. It's the Paramount. It's a really good theater. It's a great theater for him to be in. I think I saw my favorite murder there a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the big podcasts that from Freakonomics did one at the Paramount, actually, early recently. So, yeah. yeah thank you everyone for listening find us doomed to fail pod on socials and on blue sky

where we're being reposted by dan carlin and doom to fill a pod at gmail.com if you have any ideas okay we'll go ahead and cut it off there thanks thanks