Doomed to Fail - Ep 22 - Part 1: The wild life of Gypsy Rose Blanchard

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

We first published this episode a year ago and WOW things have changed for Gypsy since then! She's out of jail, she was married and flaunting her marital bliss, and now she's getting a divorce. She's been on tons of podcasts, shows, and all over the news. We're just happy that she's happy.  Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

Hi, friends. This is Taylor from Doom to Fail. We're the podcast that brings you every week. We're bringing two episodes of history's greatest failures and disasters. And this is episode 22 part one. If you're new, just so you know, we did our first 26 episodes as two stories per episode, right? And then they got really long. So now we do it twice a week, one story per episode. So the first 26 episodes, we're going to re-release as one. and this is one of them. We're nearing the end. So episode, this is terrible, but I'm not going to start over, so we're still going. Episode 22, Part 1 was on Gypsy Rose Blanchard, and can I tell you how much stuff has changed between the time that we actually published this actually almost exactly a year ago on May 29th, 2023, and now it is May 10th, 2024. Jipsy Rose is out of jail. She got out of jail with a flourish, was married. to a man who she is now divorced from and now she's living this fabulous single life out in the world so lots of stuff changed since this episode aired and you can definitely Google her to find

out more but here's the first part of I'm sure many many parts to come of the story of gypsy rose blanchard enjoy in the matter of the people of the state of California versus is Hortonthall James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Okay. If you're good to go, we're going to kick things off. I'm good to go. Let's do it. Cool. I'm, wait, no, I'm not Fores. I am Fores.

Welcome. So far, so good. I've been at brunches and drinking espresso martinis since like fucking 10 a.m. So like I'm having a hard time. Welcome to doom to fail, the podcast where we explore two stories, one historical, one true crime around red flaggy relationships that were doomed to fail. I'm Fars, joined here by Taylor. Hi, Taylor. Hello.

There we go. We have some pep and Taylor stuff. We're both a little out of it. Well, I'm a little out of it. Taylor's hosting a lot of people and, yeah, there's a lot going on in both of our lives at the moment. It's true. I'm sitting on the floor. I'm not a bedroom, but I felt uncomfortable sitting on the bed. So my computer's on the bed and I'm sitting on the floor. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. Are those trays, just random trays behind you or what is that?

Yes, because I do have a plan. So someday we're going to renovate this house and added like another room. And so I'll have to move my office. So when I'm moving my office in this hypothetical situation in the far future, I want to do a dark blue wall with a mirror in the middle and then just like as many silver platters as i possibly can around it so these are my first three silver platters so is there like some symbolism to that nope i just have dope style and i want to put it in my office you do have dope style you do have dope style i kind of i think i stole that from you now actually and personally it's going to be cool so taylor i per usual uh i'm wondering who goes first i think it's me it's you okay it is me so why don't you share your drink and then i'll share my drink in my story that's good um so this week we are drinking the blood

of our lord and savior jesus christ wow okay man you went all the way in went but your appetite for some dead guy blood we got some wine okay no flesh just the wine piece yeah yeah you don't want to like damp in the buzz by eating too we're just going to drink it's true it's true so i um i told taylor that it's been like a boozy sunday for me it like started with like brunch and having espresso martinis and it just kept snowballing from there so i'm just going to call out espresso martinis as being delicious they're absolutely amazing yeah one of the best drinks you can have the morning not every morning like yeah yeah a nice weekend vacation morning long weekend morning you're right exactly um so that would be

my drink and it has nothing to do with our story absolutely nothing to do with my story but i did have rosé also this morning like frose like frozen rosé and the name of the person we're talking about today is rose oh well there you go it is gypsy rose oh didn't see that one coming did you i didn't see that one coming see because because it's so like different right it's it's abuse between child and parent versus like a couple which is like a very very unique dynamic so the two parties here are going to be gypsy road blanchard and our mom dd and i'm going to start wrath at that saying that i was so thrilled that dd was just fucking stabbed to death and just gutted like a fish like that was somebody absolutely had to be killed yes no she's she's the

daddy 100% like if anything i feel really bad that the people who killed her were punished at all it's just like it's so unjust me so you're aware of the story right yes okay yeah so let's get into the main characters like i mentioned we are talking about a mother daughter dynamic the mother's name is going to be dd the daughter's name is going to be rose or sorry gypsy gypsy gypsy Rose. That's what she's referred to. So D.D.D. was born. Her name was Claude. When she was born, her name was Claude Dean Petrie in 1967. She was raised in a pretty large family with five siblings. And generally speaking, the assessment is that she's kind of a shithead from birth. Like, her family seemed to always dislike her. And apparently, they later on suspected that she

actually killed her own mother, although nobody could prove anything because why would you? Because everybody's dead, right? Diddy ended up dying. Her mom ended up dying. So, who cares but long story short it yeah well there's actually a lot more to like how dd's dynamic with her family plays out but we'll get that in a little bit so dd later on uh ended up meeting a guy named up meeting a guy named rod blanchard when she was 24 and he was 17 i saw the guy i saw interviews with him like he's like a normal dude like he's just like he's not what you would think of as like an average 56 year old guy like he's actually like super put together like like yeah he was he was definitely like dd definitely punched above her weight by hooking

up with rod is what i'm gonna what i'm gonna say i totally agree i feel like i that's i gathered that from things as well like he was yeah yeah yeah he was good dude and then obviously like in this situation so she's 24 he's 17 obviously it's like a one-night stand situation where she gets knocked up rod is clearly trying to extricate him from the situation so he leaves ddd obviously. And then shortly after the separation, Didi gives birth to their child, Gypsy, who will become the other main character of today's story. So Deity started being kind of a helicopter parent in the worst way almost immediately with Gypsy. So she was convinced early on that Gypsy had different issues. One of the main issues I heard was sleep apnea

was one of the things that she kept staying like Gypsy had sleep apnea. So we have to take her to the hospital and she was here to the hospital and do overnight like testing with doctors all the time like it was like over the top level of like trying to fake this is part Taylor where like I don't actually know how I feel about this like was the person crazy to begin with or were they over the top parenting and then turn I don't know what it is I know that she turned crazy and insane eventually but I don't know how it started with like an infant me like they have sleep like what are you talking about like kids don't get yeah like that's like for like old heavyweight overweight people like anyways like my assessment was like she probably started out

having some sort of psychological issues begin with and that's how it started the mom dd or yeah yeah yeah um it's funny because i i was thinking about this how like i how little i take care of myself so recently taylor it's really funny because um i started tasting like copper in my mouth constantly and like I'd occasionally just like I would like be in the shower and I'd spit and there'd be like it would be pink and I'm like what is going on like it's like my body is like deteriorating before my eyes like it literally just started and I'm like how did this happen but I'm going to get taken care of I'm going to take care of what is that what could be so i read that it could be gum disease but a gum disease is usually preceded by halitosis and like

i don't have bad breath like well the way you breathe right breath right there no you don't but i just hope you don't die so i'm glad you should go to the doctor yeah yeah i'm gonna go to the dentist but like i was just thinking about it in context of like this woman would pursue such insane medical care for her kid and i'm just sitting here like i don't know i'm a fucking gums are bleeding my heart stops every three minutes and i'm just like whatever i'll i'll work it out whenever i work it out she was like over the top obnoxious so like to the extent where like doctors would start telling people other doctors just like ignore her like just don't deal with this and push her aside so that's basically like how the kind of came across just super overbearing over the

top and yeah she thought like she was doing the right thing as a mom or she was crazy i don't know i don't know if it was doing the right thing as mom or she was crazy tbd what do you think i think she was crazy i think she just wanted the attention but it but with like a child like a baby i mean it's like a literal psychological disease the munchausland by proxy like it's a thing like there's been other cases of it you know so i researched that it's actually called munchausen syndrome by proxy well close i just missed the word syndrome no i know because i'm telling you now because earlier on in the later on in the outline i wrote munchausen by proxy syndrome and then i got to the very end and i was like let's research this disorder and then i found

that it's munchausen syndrome by proxy and then i changed the end but not the middle so when i say it i'm going to say it wrong and just note no bet um so okay go my story so at one point in And in Gypsy's childhood, D.D. made her use a walker because she basically told her she had muscular dystrophy and that she required it to walk. And Gypsy, like, she does what her name's so stupid that it makes me like, I feel bad saying. It's like, oh, Gypsy. Of course, Gypsy Blues are Gypsy. So it was like, it's like, it's any kid. That's from, that's from a movie. Is it? Gypsy Rosie is like a person. Oh, okay. I learn everything. Something you over time. time but like my point being like it's like a kid like any kid is going to believe what their parents tell them and gypsy believed it she believed that she had muscle dystrophy and she would use a walker and later on she would use a wheelchair as well so going back to part of like how dd was trying to manipulate this situation she started down playing how old gypsy was so for example there were stories of when she was eight or sorry when she was 10 she would tell people that gypsy was eight when gypsy was 18

she would tell people that gypsy was 14 there's no consistency in terms of the age differential but she would constantly change this age because she wanted to seem younger and more ill and all right basically suffice to say it seems obvious but gypsy was homeschooled obviously which just gave all the control to the mom in one bit of interesting trivia i learned also literally just downloaded the harry potter game so it's like it's awesome and it relates to this as well is that gypsy only learned despite the fact that she was doing homeschool lessons she only learned how to read because she taught herself so she could read harry potter books oh my god yeah this kid taught it herself how to read and literally harry potter

was the reason why and also the video games fantastic hoggworth's legacy if you don't have it go download it um yes i'm sure we have so ultimately dd would fall in hard times and moving with her father and her stepmother she really really apparently disliked her stepmom and apparently that was a mutual feeling all around it was suspected that she was actually poisoning her stepmom with weed killer it's crazy did he was did he was stepmom and and later on i'm gonna get this like they moved away they moved into their own own own house after this and then immediately the stepmom got well like she was sick she would always be sick horrible circumstances and then dd and gypsy leave and all of a sudden she's fine and

everybody's like yep she was poisoned her is basically a assessment we come to so assume she killed her mom assumed she poisoned her stepmom and she did what we know she did to gypsy that's who dd was one thing that was interesting was that her parents also thought the way she treated gypsy was really messed up and they would constantly confront her on and be like this isn't normal like it's clear she can walk on her own like she would like stand up like she would like do her own thing and she's like no no she needs a walker she has been in a wheelchair and it's like no she doesn't like we can see what she's doing like she's totally fine so yeah and that was part of the divide that resulted in gypsy and d.D leaving the house and moving to a part of new orleans was where

the story kind of picks up around like when Katrina was going to hit. which was like a big part of this, actually. I'm going to talk about that a little bit. So I kind of going to talk shit a little bit, like, because I feel like D.D. is kind of like a type of person. So she, um, she was one of those, like, she's always on public assistance, always on welfare, never works, just literally goes to the hospital, takes your, like, I partially think that's part of the problem is like, that's what gives her life meaning and value is my kid is sick.

care of my kid. And like, there's nothing else. There's no career. There's no work. There's no events, conferences, whatever. Like, none of that goes on. And so she's like, yeah, I just do this one particular thing. I just take my kid to hospitals constantly back and forth, apparently. So, you know, I don't know. I feel like that has to be at least a part of it. Like I said, she's just subsisted on public assistance and child support from Gypsy's dad, at rod and yeah i feel like that might be a part of why she did what she did was just like like i got nothing else going on like this is all i have i'm going to make this kid more important than she needs to be in a own way exactly it's exactly the disease yeah and like

i wrote down here like i could actually go into a lot of detail about all the various treatments that dd sought for gypsy or the various ways that she was like regaled as his hero mom or gypsy was regaled as a hero child but it's like constant like it would be like it'd be like 17 hours or like me just talking about like like every time something would happen some weird non-profit in the middle of nowhere would give them an award for being the bravest child of the week and then it's just it was just like non-stop like she put on a really good act of how to make her seem sick and also was noted that like when gypsy didn't act as sick as did he wanted Didy would, like, squeeze her hands, but like, no, no, perk up.

It was like, it was like, it was like a dog, like training a dog, like how to like act in the room space. So that was another piece of this as well is like, that's when it jumped the ship from like, eh, maybe she was like concerned to like, no, no, no, she was deliberately trying to make this child seem more sick than she was. Mm-hmm. It got to a point actually where, where doctors would perform surgery. This is crazy. doctors will perform surgeries on gypsy for things that like didn't have

that like kind of existed but like no reputable doctor would do if they thought it existed to like that extent like if like if you have like web feet for example a doctor's not going to say let's chop your leg off so we can fix your web feet like like that's the extent of like she had issues a little bit a tiny tiny tiny bit and doctors would buy into it because like I said like the doctor community was like just do what this woman wants like she'll never leave you alone just get her to shut the fuck up and just do what she wants basically um which is like really really gross and that kind of segues into the Katrina bit because they do think that when

Katrina hit and people from New Orleans were relocated there was already an inherent um I feel bad for them nature of this mix that with like being a mom being a single mom with a child who has like 17 different types of leukemia apparently like it compounds everything like we already had a giving spirit as a society and community after Katrina hit layer that on to the fact that you think this child is incredibly incredibly sick and that's what ends up happening so that's a piece of this as well that I'm going to like layer in here is Katrina hits they live in New Orleans and they're relocated to Missouri so yeah I wrote I wrote down how she would like get awards for just like basically existing from every nonprofit in Missouri they also you go I mean first if you actually do a child who

has a chronic illness like it does it is your life it is all you can do you know but that's not what happened no I know but that's what I'm saying that's that people like believed her you know that that's why she like saw that life and like thought it was something that she could do because it uh I see you're saying I see you're saying like if you are that level of like mentally ill this is a very easy and plausible way to like get that kind of validation from society so gross so gross yeah no you're literally using your child as like a gross pawn and I just the doctor was being involved I think is wild like I feel like I and I need to like get second opinions and like think twice before you do things with doctors but doctors shouldn't they should know better so they should know better so they did so there's one doctor I'll get through here in a moment that literally was like no I saw what was going on and I was like she does not have muscular dystrophy like she can walk like she has the musculature in the joints strength and all that stuff to actually walk and be ambulatory on her own but literally the other doctors in their community that guy actually called her other doctors so this is a missouri doctor he called her doctors in the in Louisiana and was like does this girl have muscular dystrophy like no we did all the test she does not have it like he confirmed all this but then everybody was like in the doctor community was like this woman's a fucking pain in the ass like we just leave it alone like don't don't deal with this like what's like what you know they have they're supposed to

first do no harm isn't that their oath yeah like like yeah like there's there's a part of where it's like okay so if you're just like if this is your job being treated like your job and get where you're like I'm just going to check out of it but it's more than a job when you're a doctor right like you go layer beyond that so like maybe this guy should have had that level of commitment and investment in this but no that that guy actually comes up a lot later on because he was the only person who went on the record at some point saying, I think this is Bunchausen syndrome by proxy. Like that has to be what's going on because this girl should be able to walk.

All the tests indicate they should be able to walk. So, but anyways, so going back to this, going back to what ends up happening. So they moved to Missouri. And again, with Katrina hitting, everybody has this giving spirit. They end up getting a house free through Habitat for community with wheelchair. ramps and everything like those are newsworthy right so the media starts paying attention to in gypsy you know they it's like they film them walking into their new house or rolling into

their new house like it's like it's a whole thing yeah love that shit it's like oh here's like a single mom with a very very sick child who you know is is is getting something in life they would constantly get free stuff so they would get free to get tickets like disney to concerts she was one of the make-a-wish foundation kids so she would get like whatever she wanted from there At this point, it seemed as though Dee Dee's expectations of their life experiences were basically entirely dependent on Gypsy being so super sick. Of course. If she's not super sick, then we don't have this dope life. So one thing to note at this point is Gypsy has no idea how old she actually is.

Oh, my God. Like I mentioned, her mom keeps down playing away. So there's one story where her dad, who like tried to be involved actually. again like this guy's not a shithead yeah no totally he wanted to like call her and congratulate her on her 18th birthday and dd goes this is a quote she goes okay but don't tell her how old she is because she thinks she's 14 what crazy so that's where i would say that that isn't the greatest guy in the world is like come on you didn't yeah question that was us here like but he thought that she was sick too right like he believed her yeah he did he did yeah he was involved but not involved the extent of like

i've been in the er for the last eight weeks you know like it's like how can you doubt that how can you know is it is it genetic at all i don't know i don't know i just wonder if like he could have been like oh well maybe our family has it that's weird better i don't know well she she said yet she she said that um gypsy had like must dystrophy that she had cancer so she would um shave i was going to get this a little later i'll bring up now she would shave her head it's awful yeah she would shave her head to make her seem like she had cancer and this i didn't actually write down the outline she had her um her saliva glands removed and so because of that yeah she had her saliva glands removed i forgot like who did this

what doctor did this but like she had that done and apparently i don't know what the saliva glands do outside of generating saliva but apparently it has a pretty dramatic impact on the health and longevity of your teeth so her teeth literally all fell out because after she had her slough so she looked dude imagine this you're looking like a 14 year old girl bald head when you when you lose your teeth you lose your face yeah yeah bald head no teeth there's just gum staring at you and it's like like of course she has leukemia of course she has whatever disease the mom says right like did she do that on purpose her teeth would fall out She didn't do it on purpose because the teeth would fall out.

What I read was that she would apparently gypsy would like drool, which I don't, I don't totally understand. But apparently just who would drool and the mom was like over it. And for some reason or somehow she convinced a doctor to remove her saliva glands or something. That has to be like that had to be like a procedure done in the Philippines or something. Like I can't be like a. That's so serious of a thing. Yeah. Oh my God.

Yeah. No, she was horribly abused. Like that's the thing that's like that precedes. every discussion of what ends up happening at dvies like she was a monster i wonder are you going to talk more about munch and mchhausen syndrome by proxy no i'm you know what i probably should have done a bunch of research on that but like i i got to the point where i like was like i'm calling this the wrong thing and that's basically it so i i wonder i mean i i feel like well most psychology is like new you know in the past like 100 years or 200 years or whatever i wonder how many times this

happened like in the history of the world where like a parent has been like I need help because I have this child whatever you know or like had a little bit of attention and then like continue to do it or like maybe they were like oh my baby died and I got a ton of attention so they just like did it again you know stuff like that I wonder I mean I'm sure it's happened before this feels like an extreme version of that like it is but like I don't know if that is in the news every couple years someone kills their kid yeah yeah I can believe that having surgery like getting to the point where you do surgery and stuff is like kind of intense but oh yeah and that's 100% on the doctors that's 100% on the doctors 100% yeah totally agree like i don't know how you convince the doctor to take the fucking saliva glands out of a child but that's crazy that was a reason why she lost her entire teeth i again i don't know what the dynamic is i don't know why saliva glands what that has to do with like teeth longevity but she that happened yeah so and you see the pictures if you look at pictures of her you can see she has like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was like, I wrote here. I was like, I was like, she gave birth to a perfect, healthy baby and turned her into like this crazy disabled person through this treatment. It's like it's insane to how you can, how you can do that to someone. Yeah. Yeah. And there was this one physician in Missouri who was like ran blood tests on her. It was like her blood tests were all normal. We did ran tests on her standing up and her.

ambulatory skills and they're normal she's normal like there's nothing wrong with her mobility whatsoever and that was the point when like everybody was like she called her the doctor in louisiana was like yep everything's normal and other doctors like stop it like just drop it like just drop the topic this woman's a fucking pain in the ass like she'll never leave you alone if you don't drop this and he just dropped it which like again i'm over two minds of it as a professional like it's not my fight to win but it's like as a doctor isn't it kind of your fight to win i don't know it's 100% their fight to win. That's their job. Yeah. You know, and they took on that responsibility

when they became a fucking doctor, you know? Like, you could have my job, but no one's going to die if I don't do my job, you know? But if you have a job where someone's going to die if you don't do it, then you need to fucking do it. You know what, though, Taylor, as famous podcasters, don't you think that

we save like one suicide a week by being awesome and funny? Dozens of lives have been saved by listening to this. There you go. Dozens. I mean, just like regular life like people were like what is my purpose and slender this and they're like now i have a purpose i'm not sure how why the the crown we wears heavier than you think we're all five of you stop down playing it bless us bless you bless you five no no no we're we're blown up we're

going to be famous um so going by the story gypsy eventually reached the age where she started having an interest in boys and wanting to do things other than just basically pretending to be an invalid her entire time and she had actually i'm sorry i don't think to yell about you say reach the age like she doesn't even know how old she is so like she probably it happens right like it's no i know when i started liking girls like i didn't know how old i don't know how old i was it was just like one day you wake me like oh wow like that's cool um no i'm thinking what i'm thinking is like how long was she going to pretend she was a teenager was she going to like keep moving and like pushing it back until she was like 30 you know she actually fake her birth certificate actually

like she went over the top like she literally went to the extent of faking her birth certificate to try and make her seem younger that actually comes up here in a minute like the fact that she did that like yeah i don't know what the game plan was it feels like there's not a lot of strategy here but it didn't work like no matter what it was but actually gypsy seems kind of cool like this is the part where it's like not so sinister is like she gets into comics and she goes to comic cons and she meets guys there and like this is all this stuff and that's actually where it goes sideways her mom finds out that she's of this like hotel room with this guy at a comic con and she shows up and she brings a forged birth certificate that i think said she was like 15 or 14 or something along those lines and just shoved in this guy's face saying like hey you ever contact her again and you're going to jail the rest of your life like this is going to be statutory rape situation like it was fake like she was 18 like she was an adult and the mom fake this birth certificate and back her back home so that was the ongoing thesis here is like her finding slivers of escape and then being drug back to this hellish existence.

It was after this situation that Gypsy meets the other, I'm going to call protagonist of the story who's a guy named Nicholas Gojohn. They met online and they grew rather close with one another, close enough to where the two started discussing getting married at one point and they would eventually meet in person and kick off like a sexual relationship between the two of them apparently gypsy was like very self-aware what was going on in this situation so like she told uh nicholas what was happening with the mom and this is when they started kind of plotting out how to just get dd out of the equation apparently so part of this was we escape the other part was we kill her so like it was like a

balance of two ideas and the idea was that we got to go with that we kill her situation because that's the only way to be truly free of this woman it's like again i also want to kill her i never met this woman in my life i would gladly hold her head underwater until she stopped breathing like she sounds like the worst human like i mean at the very least she should be in jail like she should not have a child no at the very admit she should be dead admit you no i don't know i'm i agree with you i think i think i think she's better off without her you know she's a terrible human I know this is a pattern for you. But no, I think at the very least, she should not have that child.

Like, she should not be allowed to do it. So gross. Yeah. So, by this point, Gypsy is, like, obviously fully aware that there's a life outside of what she's been experiencing. She's out with this, like... I mean, good for her. Think of the internet sometimes. Yeah, no kidding. Sometimes fuck the internet, but sometimes good job internet.

Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. And, you know, at this point, she'd been... because she understands i mean i know she doesn't know how old she has but you get that like you don't vibe with like i know i don't vibe with like a 15 year old you don't mean like i don't need you don't have to tell me i'm 38 like i know i don't there's a difference there right and so she understood that things weren't exactly what they were and she kind of evolved beyond it so i will say this i love what nicholas ended up doing to dd i think it's awesome like i want to make Christmas cards with him stabbing her to death and sent to all my friends and family.

But I also think it's a little fucked up because it's kind of like, like, you don't even know this woman. Yeah, his life is his life ruined essentially. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Life in prison, first of remir, like, he's done. He's done for it.

But it's like, like, I love what he did. But I'm also like, man, you could also just tell her like, hey, let's like go to Cancun. you know like it like wasn't his responsibility or job to do that but like because no because so many people failed her i feel like yeah all the doctors doctors psychologists therapists it's funny it's funny you said that because like the dad and the stepmom who was being poisoned consistently when all this ends up happening they were like yeah she deserved it like literally her dad and her stepmom we're like we're glad that she's dead she deserved this i mean i don't i mean i have like family members who are annoying but like i have anyone like deeply deeply toxic like that's a whole

different thing yeah yeah well this all escalates in june of 2015 uh gypsy and nicholas start kind of putting their plan of how to extricate themselves under dd's grip in action gypsy basically lets nicholas in the house while dd is asleep she hands him a knife she hands him gloves she hands them ducted like it was like a whole plan and the idea was for nicholas to kill dd like that's thing that's like interesting is like you go from this like extreme of like i'm a goo-googga baby to like let's fucking kill the bitch like it's just so crazy how that flip happens but i can imagine the rage has to be over the top i don't know what it's like my parents did not treat me like i was an invalid fucking half my age most my life but like i can imagine her the rage has to be so real

that makes you like think that way but um so nicholas goes in the house and yeah the whole plan was nicholas you do this you go you kill dd and yeah like it was it was a great outcome for everybody in the world nicholas ends up stabbing her 17 times in her bedroom until she dies which is fucking awesome like kudos to him um i don't want to be friends with him i don't want to have like a barbecue with him but like i'm going to say again nicholas it's not a happy ending for him not totally not a happy any for him but he's also fucked up because who would do that that's true right not like not everyone would just be like yeah totally it's like the whole the the joke that one laughed at that one time you just trip over fucking scumbags every now and it's like I how

this guy's just like randomly I've met a lot of women and any number of them could have asked me to kill somebody I wouldn't have done it like it's it's so over the top extreme that's true but uh this happens and then shortly afterwards i mean they spent a few days in hotels and then they make their way up to where nicholas lives up in wisconsin during this time uh apparently gypsy was logged into dd's facebook account it would post comments like as her and one of them was the bitch is dead like it's just like you're the worst criminal in the world you're the worst criminal that's ever existed and she would just post this stuff and so people started of being like what's going on like because see how everybody who knows it was like this sweet

family of this invalid child and like now it's like this bitch is dead it's like what's like where the right like who'd even say that say those words who would say that anyways much so it's like a child who's like an invalid at 12 years old so friends and neighbors started getting concerned they call the police police ended up searching the house and they found ddie's body yeah i wrote down how everybody when this happened was so concerned for gypsy because everybody in the town was like this poor kid has no options like whoever the fact that she's on here and the fact that her mom is dead means that she is probably on her way to dying soon as well because she doesn't have her medicine her air tanks were at home her wheelchairs like

how does she get kidnapped yeah all of it oh totally and so everybody's everybody's mostly just concerned about the kid uh one of the one of gypsy's friends who was in town and knew about nicholas mentioned that they were like kind of a thing and police are looking into them and they reached out to facebook and asked facebook to run IP traces on dd's facebook account and they ran the traces because the posts were so unusual that like it obviously drew red flags and they were like these were all originating from wisconsin and they knew that she was seeing a guy from wisconsin so they're like oh this is gypsy and they end up going to wisconsin there they end up arresting them and it was obvious. Like these were not massed criminals. There were kids.

They were scared kids. I know the crime sounds brutal, but it's like they were just stupid kids. Like, you know, Nicholas is a kid. Gypsy was like more than a kid. Like I don't even know how to explain. Like she was like so stunted in her growth in her development. Like so, so they immediately caved and admitted what they ended up doing. Everybody admits that the plan was for Nicholas to go in the house. It was unanimous. Like both Nicholas and Gypsy. We're like, yep, this was a plan. Like, they all came together on that piece of it. And they, what I finally interested in by this case was that the prosecution could have

pursued a death penalty. So Missouri has a death penalty as an option. And this is going to be a first remarriage charge. They ended up deciding that they're not going to pursue. So, like, this is so weird. This is so beyond the pale of anything we've ever seen that, like, we can't, we can't do this. and so they thought it would be like an abnormal degree of punishment to pursue the death,

but only so they didn't. Regardless, Nicholas was ultimately found guilty, as I mentioned earlier, and he got life in prison, which, like, again, thank you, Nicholas for murdering this woman. The world is better for you having done it. And also, just like, dude, you could have just gone on to the next match on Tinder. Like, you didn't, the fact that you wanted to do this is, like, a little bit weird. So. You're not wrong.

i was writing if i if i met a girl on bumble tomorrow who said kill my mom would be like yeah maybe she would think about this a little bit yeah hopefully you would not do it how old was he when he did it i don't know i don't know what i don't know if you i mean you do don't think this when you're young but i also never killed anybody so it doesn't count as my dumb things you never killed anyone no no never so the murder was in 2015 how old is nicholas he's 33 now so in 2015 how many years ago was that those eight years ago yeah eight years ago so he's 33 now so he would have been 25 all right that's old enough to know yeah yeah yeah if he was like 15 you know I'd be like well blah I mean again it's it's complicated

because like yes she needed to go but also no you should not Like, you should leave it to other people. You should never be the person who does it. Yeah, totally. Yeah. So, yeah, Nicholas ends up getting life in prison, which, like, sucks again. Gypsy, we've gone off pretty light. She ended up getting a secondary murder charge in 10 years in prison.

One of the things that Gypsy said, I read this quote while she was incarcerated. She said, I feel like I'm more free in prison than with, than living with my mom. Because now I'm allowed to just live as a normal woman. Like, like, she... They let her just, like, walk around. dude like she's she literally feels like prison is like freedom for her like that's so and like there was nothing there was nothing in her experience that would make her feel like there was some of her to go because like there were adults around her all the fucking time and no one did anything yeah you know whether or not they were like afraid of dd or believe dd or like didn't want to intrude or like just wanted to not deal with her like whatever but like dozens dozens of capable adults were around her and didn't have her See it? Help her. She can get a big whatever. I think like a I don't think gypsy should have gotten any jail time and I don't think Nicholas should have either but I also don't want Nicholas to be my neighbor because if I sneeze the wrong way he might fucking kill me too. Like he just he just seems really easy going with the stabbing people to death piece but like I it's just like as a society we should decide who we put into a forest and we all hunt. Indeed he was one of those people that should have been. in like the running man that we just put into a force

and we all just pursue and try and kill. That is not the moral of the running man. Just, I want to. Did I get the wrong? Did I get the wrong movie? Yes. No, no.

That is the running man, but I'm saying that the moral of the running man is not we should put someone out and everyone to hunt them together. The moral of that is that is bad. In this case, it's not that bad. Like, in this case, can we make a pass for this case?

I actually just read it by the running year for the first time. This case in that other guy that I talked about. Those three can go into the running man. This is becoming a pattern for you. So yeah, Gypsy ends up getting 10 years on second to recharges. And you know what's funny is like she actually ended up getting married last year. So in June of 2022, she ended up getting married to some random guy. So the guy that killed the mom, man.

this is what guys men especially younger men if you're listening to me never do a thing for women that could impact your life because it will like they will move on and you'll be stuck with it this guy killed a woman for the girl he loved and that he's in jail for the rest of his life and she's married to someone else like just don't do it just don't do it you just don't do it you disagree with me i don't know i just feel like you're being a little toxic masculinity right there because like you can do stuff for other people but don't break the law for someone how's that yeah that's a good middle that's good middle ground yeah that's not toxic masculinity that's more like just like I don't know but I feel like you're like oh

validation and blah blah yeah he's yes yes his life is ruined ever a lot of lives ruined but not gypsies her life is better but that's my point is that his life is ruined I know in her life isn't i know but he did it for her so like well i just like think just like think twice and i don't don't say never to do something for someone don't do yeah that's extreme not never but like if it gets the point when a girl is handing you a knife at midnight as she unlocks a door to her mom's bedroom yes think twice just think she will marry another man and you will be in jail for the rest of your life like that's what i'm saying it's 100% true yes um so yeah that was that's basically how the story is she's still in jail obviously he's in jail for the rest of his

life like he's not going to get on anytime soon uh this happened in 2015 so in theory she will have served her entire sentence and be released in about two years she might get off a little bit early she might be getting off like in the next like uh year but that's gypsy's story and like i said i definitely am the world is a better place because dd is dead and that's hard to say but I truly think that yeah she just did a lot of bad things awful human built non-profits out of

god knows how much money built hospital oh totally I forgot about that too yeah where could you wanted to help someone else dude took a home out of a habitat which could have gone to like somebody you actually needed a home like she was a scumb bag like she was just garbage wrapped in skin

like through and through but anyways she's dead thank God thanks Nicholas hope you're listening yeah if you're listening right to us tell our agent oh my gosh so funny so funny that is uh yeah that is my story and i wish i had taylor like as you mentioned it like i wish i had looked up because at the very end of this i was like the ultimate cause of dd's behavior is and i looked it up and it's munchausen syndrome by proxy which i early called munchausen proxy by whatever um but i but i didn't go into the weeds of researching what

actually was or how many instances of there of it there was but uh that would be yeah that could be an interesting second second part of this yeah i'm sure there's a lot more so Thank you.