Doomed to Fail - Ep 9 - Part 2: Do as I say - The murders of Yaser Said

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

This is another one that's too horrible to make any AI images of! Yaser Said moved to the United States from Egypt, but when his daughters, Amina and Sarah, turned out to be more American than he wanted (ie: they wanted to have phones and talk to boys) Yaser murdered them in cold blood. Then, he went on the run for nearly a decade!It's a tragic story in so many ways!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail]  Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: [e-mail] 

Hi friends. Today's re-release is actually very, very sad. It's a story of Yasser Saeed, an Egyptian man who moved to the United States and was not happy with the lives that his daughters decided to live once they got here. And unfortunately, it resulted in their deaths, and it's just unbelievably sad. So if you're looking for a downer, here we are. As a reminder, we are re-releasing our episodes. This is Episode 9, Part 2. We have two more to go for our two-week break to be completed, and we thank you for your patience, and we hope you enjoy listening to the stories,

kind of in one-off small bites. So here, without further ado, the story of Yasser Saeed, and let us meet anything, doomed to philipod at gmail.com. Thanks. California versus Hortonthal James Simpson, case number B.A.0.9. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not. what your country can do for you.

Ask what you can do for your country. Yeah, I'm really glad you covered that one. It's such an interesting story. So I'm going to segue us into the true crime side of are doomed to fail stories. So my story this week elicits a lot of feelings for me. Okay. For one, it starts as a story I can totally resonate with.

If it wasn't clear by my name already to folks or general appearance, I'm Middle Eastern. I'm Iranian specifically. And my family immigrated to the United States when I was two years old. So in 1986. For folks who don't know, Iran's history in the mid-70s onward was very, very turbulent and i'm not going to go down a history rabbit hole here taylor like that's a that's a you thing but um it's important for the context of setting this up of what was going on but the tldr is that iran was basically a secular country for most of its history it was a constitutional

monarchy leading up to the revolution in 1979 with that revolution the leadership and institutions that were ushered in were focused primarily around islam and forcing a strict moral code on people which is where we're at now so if you follow right and you even a little bit. That's why women are protesting why they can't go see soccer matches or why they have to keep their hair in a, I don't know what you call it, the hijab thing. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's constant protests that are immediately followed by executions because that's the kind of. Right. But also, as far as dealing with this dog, but it's not just going to soccer games wearing the hijab. It's like they can't go to the doctor unless the doctor's a

woman, also women can't be doctors. So. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, you know, know i put this within the context so i could actually have folks try to conceptualize what this actually means because that's how quickly things shifted in in iran specifically was 79 it happened like you are living one way again it's just it was a secular country the shot there was no auspices of religion there so to put it in context imagine you're living your cool hip life in la or new york going out with your friends meeting people and then one day you have police telling you to stop holding hands with your partner that all the places that you socialize are shut down like that's how stark and different things ended up being which is you know like again

like i have a point to all this but think about what happens to those people who are like no i'm not going to live like that like all the cool people leave right like all the ones who are not insane religious zealots leave because well then the ones who have the opportunity to right they have the resources. Right, the ones that can. So, and that's exactly what my family did, right? They were like, they made a decision that we do not want to be religious zealots. So we're going to leave. And that's what we did. And that's how we ended up in Texas. So the reason I'm bringing all of this up is because as I mentioned, the start of this story resonates with me because it is about someone trying to escape their home country for a better life. But this story also enrages me because

of what one member of this family ends up doing. Okay. I am going to shit on religion a little bit on this. We've never done that before, Fars. That's totally off character. Yeah, it's totally off-draft for me. Yeah. It will be a thousand percent justified every time I do it.

So I'm going to keep going on this rants because I'm, like, riled up now and this has nothing to do with what's in the outline. These do. if you come to the united states for a better life because you're trying to escape things that are going on in your home country don't try to make this like your home country right if you're already decided like unless something bad don't bring the bed with you yeah it has nothing to with assimilation really like maintain your language maintain your religion maintain your whatever but don't be the thing that you needed to escape for a better life that's my general thesis to

anybody who is, you know, over here from a different country. Anyways, whatever. I'm going to keep, I'm going to get into more romance later. No, totally. I want to, I want to know more because I'm also curious is like, is that, how hard is that to do? Well, I, I actually do put that in the outline. I actually discuss a piece of this in the outline because I think that there's a point in time when you have to decide, at what point do you have to diverge from your cultural

understanding of the world and there's going to come at a point in time when this guy could have done it and he didn't do it. And I'm going to point that out. I'm going to put a punctuation point on that. So the person we're discussing is a guy named Yasser Abdul Syed. Osir is from Egypt and he came to the U.S. at 26 years old. He did it for exactly the same reason anybody does it. It's for opportunity. Specifically, he was here to pursue higher education. Because in those countries like it's i'm not going to keep going down that ramp like it is impossible to get like a decent education there if you're not like the one point zero one percent of smartest people in the country basically yosser married a an american woman named patricia when he was 30 and she

was 15 which we've learned a lot about oh no this dynamic how they meet i actually don't know how they meant but i would say that not at a bar or at on tinder But I would say that I discuss Patricia sparingly here because I mean, I hate to be mean mean about it, but like she just seems like a nothing. Like she just seems like a nothing person. Like it like just like an empty vessel basically. So the two of them would go on to have three kids. They have a son named Islam who was born in 1988, a daughter named Amina born in 89 and another daughter named Sarah who was born in 90. So three kids. Okay. To say Yasser was controlling is a bit of an. understatement. He had an almost abnormal predilection to know exactly what his daughters were

doing at any given point in time. By all accounts, this behavior did not extend to Islam. He really didn't give a shit what the son was doing. Got it. Islam the person? Yeah. Yes, exactly. And this is where my speculation is going to come a bit into play. There aren't. I've watched a lot of news shows about what goes on here. I've read a lot about it. But it's, but it's, not a super meaty topic. We don't go into a ton of details about the inner workings of this family or the news doesn't really go into the inner workings of this family very much. So there's going to be some speculation here because, again, I feel a little bit like it's appropriate for me to talk on it, given that it's a Western guy. And I've like, we'll get into it.

So part of the speculation is I'm assuming, and I think correctly, that part of the, of why he really didn't care about Islam, the son. I'm just going to call him the son because it's confusing. Yeah. Versus the daughter is really religion. It's cultural. I think Yasser came up in an Islamic household and in a country where women just aren't seen as equal to men. He doesn't have to keep tabs on the son because the son probably, in his mind, he knows what's up.

It's the girl's got to keep tabs on. Right. Poor usual. I hate making excuses for this type of behavior. but i feel like if you've lived in that environment for 26 years breaking that programming has to be hard yes totally i reference that i was thinking yeah i referenced a little bit earlier about like where that divergence happens i think in any situation a person who has been programmed by life or culture or whatever it is comes to a certain point and then has to make a decision go with the

programming or break the cycle that is an inflection point i think happens again as an immigrant, like I can speak with some knowledge of that. Like there, you reach a point where like, uh, this is what I know. This is how it was raised. What do you do? What, what path do you take here? Yasser is going to take the exact wrong path. And we're going to see that happen here in a moment. So going back to the two daughters, there were reports of abuse, of course. There were some physical abuse and by some account sexual abuse as well. I won't go into them. but mostly it's because that's not the interesting part of this story. The interesting part is the extent to which Yasser wanted to control the daughters.

He almost sounds like a jealous ex-boyfriend. Like he'd go through... Like you belong to me. Yeah. 100%. He'd go through their phone. He would record them without their knowledge to see what they were talking about. And in particular, he had an extreme aversion to them,

I mean, really just growing up in dating boys. That's what it was. Yeah. The latter part, the dating boys part, seems to be the biggest trigger for Yasser. There were multiple stories and accounts of these, this understanding that Yasser was very violent. Can you hear that? Is your dog? Yeah.

I can kind of hear it, but I barely, I don't think I was able to hear it. They might think it's farts, though. It's not farts. You've heard that feedback. your brother's so wrong like if he re listens to it i don't even know how you would make that sound that like the pitch of it is obviously the yelp of a dog you heard that you hear that cancate talking to you yeah um so so like i said with with with with yostra the trigger with him was really like the girls and their relationship with with boys he did one of these gross

old guy things that was just all about like protecting the virtue of his daughters there's one story about how when amina turned 16 yasser took her to egypt to marry a friend of his which at this point yasser's 48 so how old is this you friend who's marrying a 16 year old also these girls were born in the united states or born in texas like right they you know what i'm getting flashbacks to that family um the one with the dad who looks like Harry from Dumb and Dumber where it's like where you have exposure to the real world and then now you're going to Egypt to marry some guy and be in this like Islamic family like I don't know it sounds awful yeah obviously the more he pushed the girls in the way that he pushed them

the more he repelled them so Amina starts dating a boy she meets in a karate class they would have to use code words and stuff to get around Yasser's surveillance which just shows really the unflappable resolve of a teenage boy dating a girl. I know, poor guy. Seriously, poor guy. At one point, Yasser suspected that she was dating someone and beat these shit out of her to try and get her to tell him the boy's name. She took the beating.

She refused to give the boy's name because she legitimately thought he would kill him if she did. Wow. Yeah. Again, constant theme that I read over and over again was like, yeah, the mom thought that he going to kill them he was going to kill her like constantly it comes up over and over again the mom just yeah like she just seemed like maybe it resigned to it that's probably the right i shouldn't talk bad about her like i think that she was just so beaten down by this guy that she was just like whatever whatever happens yeah why i mean like i don't i'm so sorry but i don't

understand why he's so mad because he wants to like he wants them to just completely be controlled by him then like why i'm going to send them to school okay so that so that's the thing like that's why i mean i hate to say this way i know this guy like i grew up with guys like this um i'm not going to go into details because it'll be obvious to people who hear the story you know me like what i'm talking about but but there's something about this cultural grip that when some people just can't handle it like it's it's almost like a known thing when you come to America that like if you're from one of these countries it's almost known that some people just can't take it but it's too much stimulation too much going on

I think that he just falls in this category I think I don't think that it was like I'm so mad thing I think it's like a I'm just out of my element thing totally yeah I definitely don't understand that so I appreciate that perspective because yeah it's a thing it really is um so that relationship with amina progressed the point where her and the boy actually got engaged which to me it's just cutesy teenage bullshit he probably got her a ring out of one of those gumball machines you know by some accounts um that i actually couldn't verify the other daughter sarah had also started dating someone and also got secretly engaged to me the girls at this point as i was reading this it sounded like they were just trying to find any exit any way to

yeah yeah and i'm sure those boys were like very, I don't know, like brave and like comforting, you know, to be like, it's going to be okay. Yeah, of course. So I'm going to take us on a bit of a side quest here. Taylor, have you heard of the concept of honor killings before? Yes. I think that's when like a dad kills their daughter to stop her from doing something that would dishonor the family. Like, yeah, that's roughly it. So I put a little bit of facts together here. So I did a bit of research on this and several things I found will probably shot. no one. Again, I'm not trying to shit on religion or the ethnicity, but obviously this is something that happens in Middle Eastern cultures. That's not prejudice or racist for me to say.

That is actually what ends up happening. So I remember Taylor when I was around 16 years old, I found this book at the library because I used to actually read that was called the stoning of Soraya M. And because it was framed as like an Iranian book, it was, it is. It is. It's about an Iranian woman. I picked it up because I was just like trying to learn more about, like, Iran and what goes on there. And I was 16, I thought, okay, let's see what this is all about. It's the true story of a woman named Soraya in a village in Iran whose husband wanted to marry someone new, but didn't want to return her dowry or support two families at the same time.

So he spread a rumor that she was having an affair. So the village and her own family would agree to kill her by stoning her to death. That is exactly what happened to Anne Boleyn. yeah exactly he wanted to marry someone else yes so he accused her of having an affair and had her killed yeah cons i guess i guess this is more common than it probably should be i put this part in i literally wrote this is for one because he asked for more gruesomeness so in a stoning what ends up happening is the victim is buried in the ground up to their neck and people just take turns throwing stones at their head.

Oh, my God. In Soraya's case, it was documented that her father had to start the process. He was the first one to throw the stone, followed by her son, and then followed by the guy, they made up the story about that she was cheating on her husband with. He didn't get killed. Like, that guy was fine, but he did have to also throw rocks this woman's head. But they all, like, knew that it was a lie. The husband knew was a lie.

and the this guy knew was a lot yeah yeah but apparently when it was his turn uh he was supposed to throw a few and i guess he threw one and he just picked up the other stone and was disgusted and just threw it away and walked away he just couldn't do it oh how brave yeah so super awful story and also surprisingly not in common the vast majority of honor killings are women and girls as you stated with the exception of men really being homosexuality or if they're caught you know diddling a kid or a family member or something like that the UN estimates that about 5,000 of these killings occur annually and as the name implies and as you also mentioned the killing is meant as a way to restore the family name when someone is perceived to have dishonored it so I did a lot

more research on this don't need to go into details the one thing I would note is that the Quran actually itself does not reference or bring up the concept of death for the sake of honor so it is what it is it's a weird thing because I feel like there's no like in my family there's no like dishonor the family thing you know like it just doesn't mean that we like think of I mean look look I can I can feel this even from my perspective of like you know having to be a doctor or a lawyer an engineer like it's it's it's a no like if you weren't then that is a dishonorable like it's a thing it really is totally so going back to our story. These girls are basically constantly plotting their escape with the boyfriends,

why they're getting engaged anyways. And Yasser is a constant terror to be around. And on January 1, 2008, he tells the girls to get into the taxi cab he drives for work so that they can all go get someone to eat. By all accounts, they do not want to do this. They are terrified of this guy at this point. He drives them to a parking lot of a hotel and a part of Dallas, which I'm actually like really, really familiar with. My mom used to work like right here. It's called them, this part of Dallas called Las Kalinas. And he parked his cab at the Omni Hotel there.

After which, he promptly turned to the girls who were in the back seat and shot them. Oh. Amina died. Yeah, Amina died. Yeah, I actually talked about that here in a psych. Amina died instantly. Sarah actually lived long enough to call the police, call 911, and explicitly said that her dad shot her. Oh, my God.

In total, he shot off 11 bullets. Wow. Which, like, in the back seat of a car? Yeah. I mean, I've been gun shooting, and I've had, like, the headphones on. It is deafening with that situation, much less than the inside of a car. Mm-hmm. So, like I said, Amina died right away.

It was actually Sarah who took the run of it because he... How old were they? Oh, I should know that. I don't know. Hold on. So this happened in 2008. Amina was 89 and Sarah was 90. So Sarah, Sarah would have been 18. Yeah, Sarah would have been 18 and Amina would have been two years or a year older than that. So 19. Yeah. So like I said, Amina died right away. It was Sarah who took the brunch. She took nine shots and then also survived for a little bit. Going back to my side quest, um, This is classic honor killing to the T. It's actually how the police also defined it. He did this because the girls were dating American boys and he couldn't handle it.

Because in his mind, and based on his behavior, they were his property and he chose who they should be married to, which again was like a mid-40s man in Egypt. Ew. And when I said- Do you want them to live in Egypt? Yeah. Yeah. Even though after he'd left. Yeah.

which like I mean to his credit good for self-awareness of knowing that you probably don't belong living here like it's this is not your vibe so when I said earlier that there's an inflection point whether you go to your programming or you alternate this is that moment this is the time when you decide upon self-reflection my I got to find a way to be cool with my daughter's dating these guys and move beyond it. or go to my programming. My programming is telling me I got to kill them. That was the decision point that he chose to go this route, which, again, I would say in any situation, most people come to this country in an immigrant capacity. You probably experienced that in a much less severe way, but it is, it is relatively common. Yeah, that makes sense. So like I said, this all happened at the very, very start.

It was Jan 1 of 2008. from that day until August of 2017 so just shy of 10 years nobody heard or saw anything of yasser what yeah he just kind of vanished they actually thought that he went back to egypt but they couldn't find any records of it he walked away from the car he got out of the car after he shot them and poof that was it wow yasser also has the unique distinction of having been placed on the FBI's 10 most wanted list in 2014. Wow. Yeah, I actually used the way back machine to figure out who else he was on the list with, which is like he was on the list with some crazy, crazy people. He was on a list with this guy who was a cartel guy who was like a captain in some cartel. Like he was

big enough to where he was one of those guys who would like get plastic surgery done in his face so that nobody could recognize him, which is insane. Insane level of like there was another guy who was on the list, who killed his wife, killed his two kids, then blew up their house that they lived in in Scottsdale, which, I mean, don't do that again, but the flare for theatrics is kind of appreciated. But my favorite guy that he's on the list with is this guy named Semyon Mogulovich, who the U.S. government describes as the most powerful and dangerous gangster in the world. He's basically the head of the Russian mafia. Yeah.

Not cool. That's terrible. No, it actually is super cool. You should read this guy's Wikipedia page. His aliases alone are like several paragraphs long. What's his name again? I'm going to type it down. Semion is S-E-M-I-O-N.

Oh, I can't, right away. Semian-M-Golovich, criminal, it says. Yeah. Okay, I'll read this one. It is, his life. So I wrote this, I wrote this at some point, if we ever start covering just like random people that we find interesting. I 100% am going to do this guy

because it is, like, he sounds like a fictional John Wu character. Like, he sounds like he belongs in all the WIC movies. It's fascinating. So, okay, but just so everybody knows, like, that's the caliber of people that he's on this list with in 2014.

Wow. So going back to Yasser, in 2014, his dumbass son rents an apartment in his own name in Texas. The son, the son was obviously trying to protect his dad so when police showed up to interview is i mean i wrote Islam but i'm just going to call him the son because it's confusing they showed up to interview with the son he was just very defensive uncooperative so somebody had mentioned that they saw

a figure inside this house because everybody's looking for this guy they'd been looking for like 10 years at this point right and it makes sense that he would still talk to his son because he like care of the son yeah yeah 100% the son was protecting him throughout this whole thing so please show up talk to him the sun gives them nothing overnight whoever was in that apartment disappeared the fbi showed up the next day they broke in and they just nobody was there the fbi found a pair of eyeglasses and they used this thing called dna kinship analysis which means they built a DNA profile of yasser by like reverse engineering it so essentially they took dried blood from the girls which they had they took an oral swab of patricia which they had and they created a dna profile of yasser

and they conclusively determined that eyeglasses were his. So they knew he was in the area. They knew that someone was protecting him. So that's a lot of information. Go ahead. Sorry. No, but how did you get your DNA from your glasses?

I guess, like maybe if there's like a thing of hair or dandruff on there. I don't know. I don't know how any of this works. This happens, but then nothing happens again. It'll be another six years before authorities catch wind of where these guys are again. And they see Islam,

again, son and his uncle just name your kids something different like christians and moms like yeah the christian i feel like we take we accept that as being a name but when you like think about it more than four seconds you're like that's a weird ass name yeah like i'm not going to name my son protestant boy like yeah why why are we cool anyways whatever doesn't matter yeah no no totally um they spot the son with his uncle so yasser's brother is also a part of this dynamic and helping them out and they're going in and out of a house and um a part of town called Louisville. The FBI gets a warrant and enters the house. They fine and finally arrest

Yasser. Wow. They also arrest the brother, sorry, the son and Yasser's brother the same day for aiding into bedding a fugitive. Yasser went on trial actually just last year. It's very recent. Wow. This all happened in 2008. He just went on trial a year ago. Wow. His absolutely inscrutable defense is that someone was threatening him and his daughter in the cab that day and so he parked the cab and walked away leaving his daughters alone with this person who was a threat to them because he thought that the guy was after him and not the daughters that that was his argument that's his defense that the guy would like follow him yeah the guy would follow him and not the daughters oh my god that's dumb and not true yeah the jury

took three hours to deliberate which i'm shocked at this like i was like i wrote they must have had like a two and a half hour lunch break and they counted as part of the deliberation because i have no idea how this would take you three hours to figure out so yasser unsurprisingly gets life a life sentence without the possibility of parole he's incarcerated this place that sounds really charming it's called b county it's very very nice name yasser's son also gets seven years and his brother gets 12 years and they arguably got it a little bit worse since they're actually in a federal prison there goes that he took out a lot of people down with them. I want to circle back to the topic of our show and what it means here and

what it means, again, to me personally. Like I said before, I grew up with guys like this. Like I understand guys like this. And like I said, I can literally think of three men off the top of my head that obviously didn't take it this far, but were in need of control and possession more than would be acceptable in modern society. And I wrote down here, you know, all this is culturally informed while living in a culture that doesn't adhere to those beliefs, which I think is where that juxtaposition happens on someone's mind, which is like, how do I reconcile that? I would say this.

If you're dating someone whose background is historically on the extreme conservative side of things, pay attention to things. If a guy tells you what to wear, how to act, that's not something that's going to wash away by you asking him to chill that's entrenched programming it's not look this is like look i've been framing this as like a middle eastern thing it's not even really that like it's think about the entire middle of this country think about the hardcore conservative guys who i mean those are also a demographic like this that don't want women to show their faces right so i don't know i would just say like again go my the topic of this show like pays attention to this stuff like it's

it has consequences obviously patricia divorced him in 2009 after the murders but like wow whatever like she didn't really help her daughter she can really protect them and i don't think she really had the wherewithal to do that anyways so yeah and like yeah there's like a weird thing in in like conservative christianity where there's like the purity thing with your dad were you like so weird you know like a purity ball and like promise to remain pure into you marry which is stupid and like not real um it's so creepy i so again like i was raised in texas and like i knew kids growing up where like they're going to a dance with their dads to talk it's all sent around your virginity like yeah do you not think that's weird so weird anyways yeah it's so weird it's so weird it's

so weird it's weird to think that much about your yeah it's weird i don't i don't know and i think that but i think it goes back to something that we said a bunch is like controlling women whatever reason you feel like you have to yeah yeah yeah so that's my story luckily this guy's in jail he's going to be in jail for the rest of his life um i went down so many side quests on this one what was the what's the is the do you part that trying to move your culture into another culture it's so much of it like it's it's it's just go back to egypt man like yeah just go back to egypt like you'll find a nice girl there you'll get married and she won't show her face like just she'll your kids will adopt that as their

personas like i don't know why you have to do that here mm-hmm so that's a part of it and the other part is obviously the marriage of Patricia, where, again, I don't, I'm not going to sing a swan song for her, but she sounds like she just had literally no power or control to do anything. And I think that's the age difference. I think that some people frame their culture as this incredibly, incredibly important thing. I remember how this conversation. So I had this friend, I'm going to bring up exactly how I know him, because again, it's going to give up too many details. But I this friend he's a white guy um and him and his girlfriend went to spain and they went to like the bull show the running of the bulls right uh-huh and they recorded this and they played me this video of it

and they were just like we just have to honor their culture i'm like no you don't this is fucking savage this is like fuck their culture like this whole excuse of like it's my culture I'm so vehemently against that because like just because you were raised in a certain way doesn't mean that's how it should be basically. Right. Totally. So yeah, I think like in this case it's like I think that part of it is Patricia was

again trying to be super chill and was like I'm not raised in a very in-depth culture so I don't know how it is. So this must be how it is. It's like yeah, you can also call that out. You can also be like, yeah, actually fuck that part of your culture. It's stupid. We should abandon that. Yeah. But that's like, there's so many people who are so like violently obsessed with their culture, which is like all this stuff is happening in the Middle East right now because they're like, this is. And like, who's to say like, you're like, there's like a, I don't want to say like who's right and who's wrong. But I also want to be like, I do believe it's wrong to not like women outside. There's a thing that Iranians do that I am going to, the next generation, I'm going to change the time.

of us doing this completely. It's called Toro thing, which is you constantly are trying to, like, get people to, like, you're trying to offer them things in a way that's just absolutely annoying. Like, imagine sitting at a dinner table in every two minutes, your grandma or a relative, it's just like, have you tried that salad?

It's really good. You should try that salad. I'm okay. Like, two minutes later. Have you tried that? It's really good. It's like, what? just leave me a lot or or the worst is when you go out to dinner and it's just like everybody just

like tries to shove their credit card at the waiter and like I stopped even trying when I'm in those situations like dude whatever like take it like it's fine like I'm not even like if this is how you want to live like we could just split it we just have to be normal people and split but whatever doesn't pay that's a cultural thing that Iran is who's absolutely drive me nuts so anyways um yeah that's sorry well that was terrible those poor girls yeah no kidding they had the boyfriends they had no idea what they were signing up for

I know that's that's a lot like for those those kids were just kids and probably like you know love their cute little girlfriends they were just like they're just normal you know they could have been like I don't know

cute little happy and also Patricia is white yeah which I feel like I just I'm finding on Google and so like yeah it wasn't like I don't know that's too bad that's really sad And it's definitely like, I wonder what he did for those years that he's on the run.

Yeah. Yeah. I think his son support him. His brother support him. I have no idea. And what a way to like, I know that we've definitely talked about the hot take of don't kill your family. Hot take.

Don't kill your family. But you can also, like you said, I can leave them. Yeah. Just leave them. You will also never talk to them again. Just go. Go somewhere else. Go to Egypt.

Like you said. Like just leave. So many people. So many people. have multiple families. Just have your family here. You got it out of your system. Who cares?

Leave them. Go to Egypt. Yeah. You can pretend they're dead. They're dead to me. Get out of here. Who cares? You know,

but they don't have to actually kill them. I feel like we're just like therapists for psychopaths at this point. I just, I mean, we have so many good ideas, which are like, don't kill people. Have you worked on?

Don't believe in wizards. Have you worked on your... Your eyes are not the window to the soul. Have you worked? I disagree. Have you worked more on your dating app for widows yet? No, widower won't you? No, but I think it still is a top priority for me

because I think it's a gold mine. How many widows? How many widows are there in the world? In their 20s are there in the U.S. Love and loss, no older adults. What percentage of widows are under 40? Oh, 5%. Okay, that's not great.

Not great. Yeah, we're not going to, we're not, my Moomu idea was the right idea. That's what we actually should have done. Fine. Okay, this is maybe my second, second plan. Is it my widower,

I would you? But yeah, I mean, I think also, like, there's a lot of people in the world, so go find someone else if you feel like killing your partner, then we don't.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I think I'm showing that I'm a, from staunch supporter of not murdering partners. Can you also, when you, when we were done, listen to the disco hit, the rest of the Rasputin, where it goes, rah, rah, rasputin. Have you heard that song? No. Well, look, I'll put that in the, in some notes as well because you should listen to that

after. Love it. Um, cool. Well, that's our story. Taylor, thanks for sharing yours. Yeah, thank you. Hopefully you have a lovely weekend. and Joshua Tree. Thank you. You too. And I will, yeah, thank you everyone for listening and subscribing. Please give us those reviews and email us at DumafellPod at gmail.com if you have any ideas. Questions? Yes, all of it. Thanks, everyone. Thanks all. Thanks all. Bye.