Doomed to Fail - Ep 97 - A Famous British Woman is Missing!!!: It's Agatha Christie this time

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

About 100 years or so ago, the best-selling author of all time, Agatha Christie, went missing for 11 days. She left her home in the evening, crashed her car, and was found later at a spa in the countr...y. The press went wild, with the NY Times reporting, among other things, that she had been afraid of ghosts, that she had run into foul play, and that she was in London dressed as a man! Arthur Conan Doyle was brought in for some reason and took the case to a psychic.When Agatha WAS found, she had used her husband's mistress's name as the name she checked into the spa with and pretended not to know who he was. Legendary. Sources:https://www.agathachristie.com/https://www.historyextra.com/period/20th-century/agatha-christie-disappearance-mystery-facts-poirot-miss-marple-detective/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/books/agatha-christie-vanished-11-days-1926.htmlhttps://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Curious-Disappearance-of-Agatha-Christie/https://www.croxleygreenhistory.co.uk/nancy-neele.html Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod  Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's a matter of the people of the state of California versus Hortonthal James Simpson, case number B.A.019. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for you. And we are back on a lovely, lovely, presumably Wednesday day. I'm glad to rejoin y'all. Taylor's going to be giving us a incredible story to remember as she finishes yawning. You can tell. It's going to be so good. It's going to be so good.
Starting point is 00:00:33 She's already yawning. We are doomed to fail. I'm Farr's joined here by Taylor. This week I covered the Olympic class ships that are doomed to fail. And now Taylor is going to give us some teasers into what she's covering. Great. So, Fars, have you seen the news this week? I mean, that is a pretty broad.
Starting point is 00:00:59 state question. I mean, which part of the news? March badness? No, not that. Did you notice that we found a British woman that wasn't missing? What? No. Did you, we found Kate Middleton. Did you see where she was?
Starting point is 00:01:18 I did, and now I feel a little bad for some of the cracks we made about her husband in life. I'm on the, I'm on the fence. um so yes i feel bad because she has cancer and that's horrible and i hope she's okay but they should have told us like they shouldn't have like been weird about it and like they just they should do better at publicity instead of doing those like weird things and letting people go crazy and
Starting point is 00:01:42 think about things um there was an article in the daily mail so you know that it's like the peak of journalism but the um the headline was the archbishop of canterbury says kate middleton conspiracy theories are nothing more than old-fashioned village gossip which like made me laugh for seven because that headline could have been the headline for the past 1,427 years, because that's how long the Archbishop of Canterbury has been a job. Like, that article is, the headline is so funny. Like, of course, it's the village gossip. Like, what do you expect us to do?
Starting point is 00:02:13 You know, like, we're living in the middle of history. Like, don't you think people were talking about it when, like, Henry the 8th and his wives kept, like, getting their heads chopped off? You know, like, of course. I think you got to say something. Yeah. And I felt a little bit of, like, sympathy towards Megan Markle, because she was pregnant. It did come out that she was like suicidal and all these things and they were so mean to her, you know, and like made her do all these things. And then I remembered that my favorite gossip about Megan Markle is that when she had that podcast, that she didn't actually do the interviews, she would just say the things that the interviewer said later and they'd re-record it, which makes you laugh really hard. And I still, I'm going to love this gossip forever, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Wait, she read the what? Like the gossip about the Megan Merkel podcast, that was canceled. after the first season is that like someone else would do the interview and then she would re-record the interview or talking so she wouldn't really do the interview is that true i don't know but remember when the like the the CEO of spotify called her a grifter because her podcast was so bad oh yeah i do all that's fun um and it's fun because there's a lot of bad things happening in the world you know so like it's fun that like to have like a thing to talk about in the royal family that you're you know in the well able to be there but I hope Kate gets better. Obviously, sounds like she will. But I want to, because we're still in
Starting point is 00:03:36 Women's History Month, talk about the bestselling fiction author of all time. They're only tied with William Shakespeare. So some places say that this person and William Shakespeare have both sold from 2 billion to 4 billion copies of their work. Guinness Book of World Records says that it's her. So she is definitely the highest selling woman author of all time and probably the highest selling author of fiction author of all time as well um do you know who we might be talking about or something how on earth would they if your guessing range is two billion dollars off or two billion units off then then you're just making something up then right i mean a thousand percent the third person on the list their number is 500 million so like these two are definitely the
Starting point is 00:04:23 two winners but like you're right that that range is crazy who could it be the 50 Shades of Grey Woman Well, but I'm sure she's on the list No, it's a British woman Who wrote mystery novels in like the early 1900s 1920s, 1930s They are Movies that are still being made today
Starting point is 00:04:49 About her books And one of them, one of her greatest characters I apologize to Nadine Our friend from French Canada who asked us to run pronunciation by her. But the Hercu Poirot is one of her best known
Starting point is 00:05:06 characters. Do you know what that is? No clue. Anyway, it's Agatha Christie. Okay. So, I have heard of Agatha Christie. Okay, cool. So let's talk about... Is she the Pride and Prejudice person?
Starting point is 00:05:21 Absolutely not. No, that is Jane Austen. That's from a very, very long time ago. Let's just move past this. Yeah. Um, so, you're so funny. Um, no, Pride and Prejudice was when was, it was published at 1813. We're like a hundred years later. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Um, so in Agatha Christie's lifetime, she wrote 66 novels and 14 short story collections. Her play the Mous Trap ran for, it's the longest writing play in history. It ran from 1952 until it had to close for COVID and now it's open again. But before, close for COVID, it had 27,500 performances in London. So it's still there going to be there forever. She was named a dame by the queen, by Queen Elizabeth.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I'll talk about what that means a little bit later. She has a million awards. But her book, The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, has been voted the best crime novel by the Crime Writers Association. And I did very much gasp at the twist in that book when I read it because I did read a bunch of the Poirot books during COVID as well. So they're great. They're really fun. They're just like a fun, classic mystery story. Some of her, just to note that I know, some of her works do have some very old-fashioned racist terms that have been removed recently. The book, and then there were none, had had two revisions on the title. So if you know, you know, you don't have to look it up. It was not good. But I also have a question about the blood splatter at the end of that of that novel. So if you also have a want to talk about that, please let me.
Starting point is 00:06:57 you know. Have you read all these? I've read a bunch of them. Wow. I think I read like the first 10 or so of the Poirot ones. And then I read, I definitely read and then there were none. And I mean, they're just fun to read like they're supposed to be. They're mysteries. So Agatha was born. Agatha married Clarissa Miller on 15th of September, 1890 in Devon, England.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Her family was pretty well off. They were like, you know, not they were not poor. her parents met because her mom her mom's name was clara her clara's dad died and her aunt margaret offered to take clara in when she was nine so clara goes to live with her aunt when she's nine her aunt lives with a man that she's married to named nathaniel fray miller miller had a 17-year-old son um and that ends up being i get this dad so her parents like they were not related but they grew up in the same household but they didn't get married until the mom was 22 but like they were like not they're like not step siblings but like a step niece cousins potentially
Starting point is 00:08:00 they weren't related this title's this title's pretty bad it's pretty bad yeah yeah you know it's pretty bad it's very bad if you looked it up it's bad oh my god um but so those are um agatha's parents um they didn't marry until clara was 22 they had three kids and agatha was the youngest She was homeschooled until her father died when she was 11, and her mother sent her to school in Paris, which, like, just if you get sent to a boarding school in Paris, something cool is going to happen to you. I just feel like, either you're just like, I don't know, just sounds super fun. Like, one of the people that I really like in history is a woman named Diana Vreeland, who was a, I'm sure I've talked to her about her before. She was an editor of Vogue, just like a really eccentric, fun woman. And when someone asked her for her life and advice, she said, first off, you must arrange.
Starting point is 00:08:54 be born in Paris, which I think is so funny, like, it's something that she would say. It's like, growing up in Paris sounds pretty fun, especially in like the, in 1900. She would go travel with her mother. Her mother was sick. So they went to Cairo for a change of air. So they spent a lot of time doing like very British things in, in the Middle East, like going to balls and post and polo and social things. But they were, you know, there for a while.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Then they went back to the, to the UK. and Agatha met a member of the British Royal Artillery Force, Archibald Christie. She met him at a fancy party. They got married in 1914, and then he was sent to France for World War I. During World War I, Agatha was a nurse for the Red Cross. There, she became an apothecary assistant, which sounds, we more fun than being like a pharmacist. Right. I mean, what does an apothecary do?
Starting point is 00:09:48 A pharmacist is the same thing. Oh, got it. But because that, she learned about poison. because it still wasn't like medicine like we have today. You know, it was like, well, concoctions and stuff. So she learned a lot about that. And she would use those stories, like how to use different poisons in her books later, which is fun. She always liked writing and she always liked reading.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Okay, her first novel was rejected six times. And then she found her second novel, she found success with. It's called The Affair at Stiles, which is the first Air Clu Poirot book. So he is, that's the name. name. And who he is is a character of hers who is a Belgian police officer. And he's like, retired, but like not really retired and keeps getting into all these like shenanigans. And it's fun. If you want to picture what this character looks like, the person who played him on TV for the longest time was named David Suchet. And he is the person who played the French guy who
Starting point is 00:10:47 was trying to find Bigfoot in Harry and the Henderson's. Do you know, can you picture that person? that's a deep I'm gonna I can't picture in my mind for some reason I picture of Steve Martin it's kind of it's a little bit like Steve Martin in the Pink Panther I think that's like a parody yeah that's like a parody of it that's not it but it's a parody of it for sure because it's like a little mustache and like he has like a French accent
Starting point is 00:11:10 and you know he's someone else kind of funny you know right exactly um it was a bit slow going but by 1923 she was selling books like crazy and everyone loved it So she was getting really, really popular. She had a lot of money. She's a little bit stingy with it. She didn't flaunt her wealth, but she definitely was making a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And in 1919, she had her only child, Rosalind. So she's definitely like happy with her husband, selling books. Things are going really well. In 1922, Agatha traveled the world on a promotional tour for a thing called the British Empire Exhibition, which is exactly what it sounds like. It's like a world's fair, but just for the colonies. of Britain and to like show the colonies each other and look how cool we are and look how many cool things we've done for you you're welcome and one thing that they did yeah like of course they did
Starting point is 00:12:03 and one thing they did is they went to Hawaii and so she learned how to surf which is kind of fun because that was in like the 1920s when they got back oh that tour was run by a man named Ernest Belcher so he'll come he'll come back in just a second so later the exhibition had like a semi-permanent spot for a year in London. The official aim was, quote, to stimulate trade, strength and bonds that bind mother country to her sister, states, and daughters,
Starting point is 00:12:30 to bring into closer contact the one with each other, to enable all who owe allegiance to the British flag to meet on common ground and learn to know each other. Which is ridiculous. It's noble, but unrealistic. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So just like a World's Fair, just for them,
Starting point is 00:12:50 I just added that in there because they built a stadium to have that the exhibition in, and that stadium is now called Wembley Stadium. So that's where that came from, which is cool. So now it's 1926. So she's just been on that tour. She's writing. She's very successful. I guess his mom dies in April and she's super sad.
Starting point is 00:13:08 In August of 1926, Archie asks for a divorce. While they were on that tour, he met a friend of Belcher, the person who was in charge of the tour, named Nancy Neal. and he fell in love with her and he wanted to get married. So we asked Agatha for our divorced, and she was unamused, as you can imagine. They didn't get divorced right away, but a couple months later, on December 3rd, 1926, this is when Agatha Christie disappears for 11 days and no one knew where she was and she claims to not remember it at all. So I'm going to tell you a little bit of what happened, what people think happened, and then some
Starting point is 00:13:44 of the amazing tabloid journalism, that sounds exactly what it sounded like when Kate Middleton was missing. it all dovetails it all we are the same people we've always been is definitely the answer so on december 3rd 1926 they were still living together in Berkshire Berkshire I don't know whatever in England he went out for the night and she was mad and this is the part where like you would see Instagram reels of people trying to find her figure out where she was all the things so here's what happened, and it's probably none of anyone's business, but it is our business because it was in the tabloids, and now we can talk about it. But around 9.30 p.m. on December 3rd, I get the
Starting point is 00:14:28 kissed Rosalind, their daughter, good night. Rosalind was 7. She got into her Morris Cowley car, which, if you look that up, it's a cool car because it's 1926. Uh-huh. Morris Cowley. The 1926 one. Oh, my God. That's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know how much money she was making in the 1920s. By the 1950s, she's making in our money today about two and a half million pounds a year. So she's making good money. So she leaves her house at 9.30. She disappears for 11 days. More than 1,000 police officers were involved. It was the first airplane search in the United Kingdom. The police asked Arthur Conan Doyle and Dorothy Sayers, both mystery novel
Starting point is 00:15:12 writers, to help. And here's the kind of the play-by-play of what happened. Her car was found on day one on a steep slope, kind of overhanging a quarry. So it's speculated that she got in a crash right away. This crash is close to where she lived. And they found her car and had some like papers in it and some clothing. Right away people had ideas. This place where she crashed was near a lake called the Silent Pool, which was like a lake that was supposed to have no bottom where people had drowned before. So they were like, did she try to drown herself did her husband kill her to marry nancy and that's up the police knew but the public didn't know about the affair until later but i guess i definitely did so they were like did she
Starting point is 00:15:56 potentially you know die by suicide because she didn't want the embarrassment or she didn't want her husband to leave was it a publicity stunt just to get like more um like more views of her books you know get to get more things sold could that be what it was what it was um there was a quote i read in a on a website it called History Extra, where they say, quote, Arthur Conan Doyle, a keen occultist, tried using paranormal powers to solve the mystery. He took one of Christie's gloves to a celebrated medium in the hope that it provide answers. It did not, which is hilarious. And can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:16:33 Can I propose my theory, or are we not? We're not there yet. No, keep going. Yeah. So she, so like that's hilarious. Like in the paper, you're hearing that Arthur Conan Doyle is a calling us to try to find out where she is. The New York Times has an awesome kind of play-by-play of how the New York Times published about this story. So on the front page, the New York Times, like, by the next day,
Starting point is 00:16:57 it said, Mrs. Agatha Christie novelist disappears in a strange way from her home in England. So, like, we're exactly the same, trying to find her. Everyone's trying to figure out what it is. On December 8th, so two days later, they called off the search. Her brother-in-law said that he had heard from her and she was fine. So they were like, okay, maybe she's fine. Maybe it's a big deal. She just walked away for a little bit. On December 10th, the police were like, we don't buy that. We haven't been able to find her. So they started the search over again. It's a December 10th, 1926 article in the New York Times. It is next to an ad for fur coats, which is pretty fun. And it mentioned that they brought her dog into the search. And one of the
Starting point is 00:17:37 other things that they theorized was that she left because her house was haunted and that she had apparently told a friend, quote, it stands on a lonely lane. Unlit at night, which has a reputation of being haunted. The lane has been the scene of a murder of a woman and the suicide of a man. If I did not leave Sunnydale soon, Sunnydale will be the end of me. So, like, that's ridiculous, but that was the paper. You know, people were like, that was the New York Times. Could that be why she left?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Would that be what happened? And December 12th, the New York Times said, quote, without telling why the police still believe that she is somewhere on the downs, not far from the spot where missing automobile was found. So they're like, now they think she's dead, you know? Yeah. And I was like, I love this. It's like a fun mystery. Like, you know, where could she possibly be? She apparently wrote three letters somehow. People are like, oh, we found three letters from her. Were they important? Was it a suicide? No. Was it a note to her husband? What could it be? Her secretary said, quote, Mrs. Christie is too much of a lady for that to say that, like, she was doing publicity or that the note said anything. She said it was just like a regular note that she would give her. Police speculated that she was in London dressed as a man. which I also imagine nowadays there'd be like that grainy cell phone video of like a dude that kind of looks like I guess a Christy, you know, just like there was a key in the farmer's market. So they said that they found a letter that she said, only open after my body is found, but like that wasn't true.
Starting point is 00:19:03 There was a seance where held around where her car crashed and they said that it was fall play. So like all these people are getting involved, obviously, making it their story, just like making shit up, using rumors. like doing things, but eventually she, oh, what was one more thing? Oh, on December 14th, the New York Times said, quote, a bottle labeled poison, lead and opium, fragments of a torn-up postcard, a woman's fur-lined coat, a box of face powder, the end of a loaf of bread, a car and a car brought box, and two children's books were found in the car. Which is like, so funny. They're just like, that could mean anything. They also say, quote, the police information, which they refuse to divulge, which leads them to the view that Mrs.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Christy had no intention of returning when she left home. So it's all speculation, all rumors, and it's just like in papers around the world. Eventually, Agatha Christie was found at a spa, a nice hotel called a Swan Hydro and Harrogate. She had no luggage. She allegedly didn't know who she was, but she checked in using the name Teresa Neal, which is the full name of her husband's mistress, Nancy Neal. So like... No one. Cheeky.
Starting point is 00:20:12 eventually the hotel's banjo player bob tappen recognized her and called the police she had she said that she didn't know who she was she didn't know how she got there she hadn't recognized herself in the paper because she was obviously on like the front page of the paper in england and like no one recognized her like no one knew it was her so like that's like part of the mystery but also like they probably just weren't saying that they knew that she they're like you can stay here but um one one report i read said that when her husband came into the hotel he sat at a table he sat at a table and and watched her walk in and he saw her walk in pick up a paper with her picture on it and put it down and she acted like she didn't know him when she saw him which is hilarious you know she was I mean yeah my yeah my take on it is like sometimes you just want to get away from everything yeah that's how many times you hear about like someone like a celebrity going to like that Malibu resort that does like detox and it's like they probably just want to just chill for a little bit like just get away and have an excuse to get away from everyone.
Starting point is 00:21:15 100%. I think it's 100% what happened. One more thing that is very similar to right now is that Nancy, the mistress, her dad said in the New York Times, quote, I cannot hazard any theory why Mrs. Christie should have used my family's name. He is quoted as saying, quote, my daughter, Nancy, is naturally upset about it. And so are we all. There is not the slightest reason for associating Nancy with the disappearance of Mrs. Christy, which we know is not true.
Starting point is 00:21:42 because we know that she is the mistress of agatha's husband um and again that's just like unbelievable because i also also saw on instagram today that lady rose hanbury the alleged mistress of prince william is suing stephen colbert i mean yeah i would i mean i still think that she did it but like you know it's exactly the same thing that is happening then and will happen forever we're like we don't know anything so we're just going to speculate and speculate for these people who are like in the in the news like they're we missy bull. Agatha never talked about what happened.
Starting point is 00:22:15 She said maybe in the Daily Mail that she tried to drive into the quarry, but the car got stuck and she hit her head on the on the steering wheel and got a little bit of like amnesia. Maybe that is what happened. Most likely she was just pissed and went away. Yeah. Which is totally fair. It's most obvious like literally just an obvious answer.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Exactly. It's like like with Kate Middleton, the most obvious answer was that she was too sick to tell us anything. but we were like, what could it be? You know? Yeah. Who doesn't love mystery? No one.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Everyone was mystery. Especially a mystery writer who was missing. Like, that's fun. You know? Yeah. So 15 months later, on March 16th, 1928, Agatha filed for divorce. Once they were divorced, Archie married Nancy a week later. Like, of course he did.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Agatha got the kid in 1928. She went on a trip on the Orient Express, as you know, because she wrote murder on the Orient Express, which you may have heard of. That I have heard of. Yep. While she was there, she met an archaeologist who introduced her to another archaeologist named Max Malawan in Iraq. So they were in Iraq on like a dig.
Starting point is 00:23:21 He was 13 years younger than her. They got married two years later in 1930, and they were married until her death in 1976. They did archaeology travels together around the world. During World War II, she went back to the UK to do more pharmacy work. There was a part where MI5, thought that she was actually a spy because of stuff that she was writing was like lining up with what was happening. But like it turned out obviously like she was not, but they were just like
Starting point is 00:23:46 nervous and suspicious. But also during World War II, she went back to her old job as a pharmacy tech essentially and and helped with, you know, during the war with that. In the 19th, go ahead. How do you just go do an archaeology dig? I don't know, but I love it. And you know what it reminds me of? Have you ever seen the Royal Tenenbaum? no it's obviously what's Anderson it's one of my absolute favorite movies
Starting point is 00:24:14 but like the husband and wife it's Angelica Houston and Gene Hackman and they get divorced and then like the next scene they go Epilene Tenenbaum became an archaeologist I just love that so much I'm like oh okay great good it's like it's like the perfect job of like I just want to
Starting point is 00:24:30 get away from everyone and have no questions asked exactly exactly so so fun she used archaeology in a lot of her books then like later like they were like mysteries that involved like old things that people found, which is super exciting. In the 1970s, there was a crime in Britain about thalium poisoning, and they solved the crime because of her book and the way she described the effects of that poisoning. So she used a lot of her real life work as in the pharmacy and in archaeology, in her books
Starting point is 00:25:00 as well. She would become a dame commander of the Order of the British Empire, which is like an honorary thing for the arts. Her husband was also knighted for being an archaeologist, so she technically could be called Lady Malawan, but who wants to do that? Everybody wants to call her Agatha Christi. Right. She died peacefully on January 12th, 1976 at the age of 85 at her house. Her daughter very carefully, you know, took care of her legacy. There are tons of, you know, obviously it's still very, very lucrative. So parts of her, like, you know, company and the Agatha Christie, like, limited was sold around it's still being like bought by netflix bought by um a bunch of like you know
Starting point is 00:25:38 big people to make to make movies out of it they're all really really fun um in her lifetime she probably earned more than a hundred million pounds in today's money so she made a shit ton of money writing books and traveling the world and then she had those 11 missing days that were speculated on just the way we speculated on kate middleton those last 11 days um i how old is her oldest book 1921? I wouldn't be surprised if her stuff is entering the public domain now. Oh yeah, probably is. I think he's 75 years
Starting point is 00:26:15 is the cut off of that. Yeah, I think let me see. The fair which is why you ended up seeing all this explosion of like fun Frankenstein movies or like vampire stuff with like Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer and all this stuff is because when this stuff enters a public domain
Starting point is 00:26:36 then he can just do other Yeah like my recent horrible movie that I love When I need a poo Oh I didn't want to do that It's so stupid It's very very stupid Like definitely don't watch it with your kids
Starting point is 00:26:49 It is like over the top It's like hostile level gory But that's because it went to the public domain And so they could do it That's what is happening on John Oliver right now Because Steamboat Willie The original Mickey Mouse is in the public domain so he like has it in all of his marketing and talks about all the time
Starting point is 00:27:05 John Oliver yeah and he has like a guy dressed like Steamboat Willie like on his show all the time in the public domain is really funny but there are six Agatha Christie books in the public domain in the US and all the way up to the murder of Roger Ackroyd from 1926 so you're right the push of them oh
Starting point is 00:27:27 fun I did not know that. And I made it very clear on this episode that I should probably read a lot more than I do because, yeah. I'll read and I'll tell you about it. If we could have that kind of friendship where you can just be my literary. That's literally what we're doing for us. I'm reading a book every week and telling you about it. We do have that kind of friendship.
Starting point is 00:27:54 No, no, we don't because you're not telling me about like the book she wrote. But in this case, I didn't read a book, but like for next week, I had something I was going to do today, but I'm moving it to next week because I wanted to do this today because of all of the missing British women in the news stuff. But, you know, I read a book and I'm going to tell you about it. Okay. I read so many books. They're on our Instagram. If you look at our Instagram story, as there's highlights of all the books that I've read in the past couple of years. I haven't added to the books that you've read to it. If you want me to let me know. Thank you, Taylor. That's a fun little, fun little. dig but i've read um read a ton of books that's all that's the end of my story all right we're proud of you um maybe i'll watch murder on the orient express tonight isn't there a new murder on the orient express i was literally thinking when you said murder on the orient express i was
Starting point is 00:28:48 like i have heard that i was like why have i heard that it's a movie yeah yeah like oh there's one from 2017. That was the most recent one. I'm going to Google something real quick. Most selling author of all time. Are you fact checking me? It's just like the... Wait, let's do most selling author of all time.
Starting point is 00:29:21 There's a list on Wikipedia. Yeah, you're right. it's still no matter what Agatha Christie Thank you I know I'm right I look it up
Starting point is 00:29:30 Although I guess I see the point of like It's just too close to tell But like How would you So Shakespeare is from like The late 1500s How on earth
Starting point is 00:29:43 Would you have any idea You just can't I know Because I remember Like this like I remember one time There was something Where like
Starting point is 00:29:50 Katie Perry has sold More records than the Beatles You know people were like oh my god i can't believe it but you're like yeah because buying a beatles record involved like getting up and going to the store you know and like however they did that and then like the katy perry stuff you can just download it and that counts through those numbers so it's just like things are more accessible now so i don't know how you quantify william shakespeare's books but i feel you quantify someone's books today but that's like kind of different yeah yeah yeah it's a
Starting point is 00:30:20 totally different book wait are all signs sold more than stephen king that totally makes sense too because he sells books to kids and they're shorter and you can buy him in his classic book fair so if i'm going to this classic book fair i'm going to buy six oral sign books you know i was obsessed for all sign so i i i when i was a kid i had like this like a sheet of paper that i wrote down every aral sign book i read and it was like i think i got one summer like in one year like 150 something books and it was like that's what i mean that's not great i have a a board evolves saving king's works it's in it's public anybody wants to look at it wow the 50s she has a great lady is up there anyways now i'm just like looking up ian fleming she sold as much as ian fleming yeah that makes sense put it all into context of who's reading these books you know well it's different though because ian fleming has like a 56 year head start on her right but like it takes nothing to be like oh i'm going to read a few shades of gray i guess i never i never read that particular i did not either but i know i get it i know what it is about i understand um sweet
Starting point is 00:31:37 well thanks for sharing taylor very fun do you have any list in or mail for your episode i actually have a bunch and it's all for you um it is i have a bunch of suggestions for you i sent you that email from keara i have more from someone nadine sent me on instagram and then my friend Morgan, who I talked about last episode, she also sent me, she knows someone who climbed on Everest and she sent me a bunch of information about them. And I want to send it to you for you to read and report back on. I would love that. Wait, is this someone that she knows enough that I can actually talk to? I don't know if they survived. I did not read everything. So I need, they were in an ambulance. I don't know the details. I'm going to send it to you. Okay. You can figure it out.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But yeah. So, yeah, thank you. We got a lot of responses to the last week, which was super fun and you've got a lot of suggestions and thank you yeah we we love we love getting that feedback it's so so awesome so cool um so yeah please do write right right to us doom to phelpod at gemmael pod we're always eager to get your feedback so please let us know yeah thank you all so much

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