Doomed to Fail - Ep 97 - A Famous British Woman is Missing!!!: It's Agatha Christie this time
Episode Date: March 27, 2024About 100 years or so ago, the best-selling author of all time, Agatha Christie, went missing for 11 days. She left her home in the evening, crashed her car, and was found later at a spa in the countr...y. The press went wild, with the NY Times reporting, among other things, that she had been afraid of ghosts, that she had run into foul play, and that she was in London dressed as a man! Arthur Conan Doyle was brought in for some reason and took the case to a psychic.When Agatha WAS found, she had used her husband's mistress's name as the name she checked into the spa with and pretended not to know who he was. Legendary. Sources:https://www.agathachristie.com/https://www.historyextra.com/period/20th-century/agatha-christie-disappearance-mystery-facts-poirot-miss-marple-detective/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/books/agatha-christie-vanished-11-days-1926.htmlhttps://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Curious-Disappearance-of-Agatha-Christie/https://www.croxleygreenhistory.co.uk/nancy-neele.html Join our Founders Club on Patreon to get ad-free episodes for life! patreon.com/DoomedtoFailPodWe would love to hear from you! Please follow along! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
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Great.
So, Fars, have you seen the news this week?
I mean, that is a pretty broad.
state question. I mean, which part of the
news? March badness?
No, not that. Did you notice
that we found a British
woman that wasn't missing?
What? No.
Did you, we found Kate Middleton.
Did you see where she was?
I did, and now I feel a little
bad for
some of the cracks we made about her
husband in life.
I'm on the, I'm on the fence.
um so yes i feel bad because she has cancer and that's horrible and i hope she's okay but they should
have told us like they shouldn't have like been weird about it and like they just they should
do better at publicity instead of doing those like weird things and letting people go crazy and
think about things um there was an article in the daily mail so you know that it's like the peak
of journalism but the um the headline was the archbishop of canterbury says kate middleton
conspiracy theories are nothing more than old-fashioned village gossip which like made me laugh for seven
because that headline could have been the headline for the past 1,427 years,
because that's how long the Archbishop of Canterbury has been a job.
Like, that article is, the headline is so funny.
Like, of course, it's the village gossip.
Like, what do you expect us to do?
You know, like, we're living in the middle of history.
Like, don't you think people were talking about it when, like, Henry the 8th and his
wives kept, like, getting their heads chopped off?
You know, like, of course.
I think you got to say something.
Yeah.
And I felt a little bit of, like, sympathy towards Megan Markle, because
she was pregnant. It did come out that she was like suicidal and all these things and they were so mean to her, you know, and like made her do all these things. And then I remembered that my favorite gossip about Megan Markle is that when she had that podcast, that she didn't actually do the interviews, she would just say the things that the interviewer said later and they'd re-record it, which makes you laugh really hard. And I still, I'm going to love this gossip forever, you know.
Wait, she read the what? Like the gossip about the Megan Merkel podcast, that was canceled.
after the first season is that like someone else would do the interview and then she would
re-record the interview or talking so she wouldn't really do the interview is that true i don't know
but remember when the like the the CEO of spotify called her a grifter because her podcast was so bad
oh yeah i do all that's fun um and it's fun because there's a lot of bad things happening in the
world you know so like it's fun that like to have like a thing to talk about in the royal family that you're
you know in the well able to be there but
I hope Kate gets better. Obviously, sounds like she will. But I want to, because we're still in
Women's History Month, talk about the bestselling fiction author of all time. They're only tied with
William Shakespeare. So some places say that this person and William Shakespeare have both sold
from 2 billion to 4 billion copies of their work. Guinness Book of World Records says that it's
her. So she is definitely the highest selling woman author of all time and probably the highest selling
author of fiction author of all time as well um do you know who we might be talking about
or something how on earth would they if your guessing range is two billion dollars off or two
billion units off then then you're just making something up then right i mean a thousand percent
the third person on the list their number is 500 million so like these two are definitely the
two winners but like you're right that that range is crazy who could it be
the 50 Shades of Grey Woman
Well, but I'm sure she's on the list
No, it's a British woman
Who wrote mystery novels in like the early 1900s
1920s, 1930s
They are
Movies that are still being made today
About her books
And one of them, one of her greatest characters
I apologize to Nadine
Our friend from French Canada
who asked us to run
pronunciation by her. But
the Hercu Poirot is
one of her best known
characters. Do you know what that is?
No clue.
Anyway, it's Agatha Christie.
Okay.
So,
I have heard of Agatha Christie.
Okay, cool. So let's talk about...
Is she the Pride and Prejudice person?
Absolutely not. No, that is
Jane Austen. That's from a very, very long time ago.
Let's just move past this.
Yeah.
Um, so, you're so funny. Um, no, Pride and Prejudice was when was, it was published at 1813. We're like a hundred years later. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Um, so in Agatha Christie's lifetime, she wrote 66 novels and 14 short story collections. Her play the Mous Trap ran for, it's the longest writing play in history. It ran from 1952 until it had to close for COVID and now it's open again. But before,
close for COVID, it had 27,500 performances in London.
So it's still there going to be there forever.
She was named a dame by the queen, by Queen Elizabeth.
I'll talk about what that means a little bit later.
She has a million awards.
But her book, The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, has been voted the best crime novel by the
Crime Writers Association.
And I did very much gasp at the twist in that book when I read it because I did read a bunch
of the Poirot books during COVID as well.
So they're great. They're really fun. They're just like a fun, classic mystery story.
Some of her, just to note that I know, some of her works do have some very old-fashioned racist terms that have been removed recently. The book, and then there were none, had had two revisions on the title. So if you know, you know, you don't have to look it up. It was not good. But I also have a question about the blood splatter at the end of that of that novel. So if you also have a want to talk about that, please let me.
you know. Have you read all these?
I've read a bunch of them.
Wow. I think I read like the first 10 or so of the Poirot ones.
And then I read, I definitely read and then there were none.
And I mean, they're just fun to read like they're supposed to be.
They're mysteries.
So Agatha was born.
Agatha married Clarissa Miller on 15th of September, 1890 in Devon, England.
Her family was pretty well off.
They were like, you know, not they were not poor.
her parents met because her mom her mom's name was clara her clara's dad died and her aunt margaret
offered to take clara in when she was nine so clara goes to live with her aunt when she's nine
her aunt lives with a man that she's married to named nathaniel fray miller miller had a 17-year-old
son um and that ends up being i get this dad so her parents like they were not related but
they grew up in the same household but they didn't get married until the mom was 22 but like
they were like not they're like not step siblings but like a step niece cousins potentially
they weren't related this title's this title's pretty bad it's pretty bad yeah yeah you know
it's pretty bad it's very bad if you looked it up it's bad oh my god um but so those are um agatha's
parents um they didn't marry until clara was 22 they had three kids and agatha was the youngest
She was homeschooled until her father died when she was 11, and her mother sent her to school in Paris, which, like, just if you get sent to a boarding school in Paris, something cool is going to happen to you.
I just feel like, either you're just like, I don't know, just sounds super fun.
Like, one of the people that I really like in history is a woman named Diana Vreeland, who was a, I'm sure I've talked to her about her before.
She was an editor of Vogue, just like a really eccentric, fun woman.
And when someone asked her for her life and advice, she said, first off, you must arrange.
be born in Paris, which I think is so funny, like, it's something that she would say.
It's like, growing up in Paris sounds pretty fun, especially in like the, in 1900.
She would go travel with her mother.
Her mother was sick.
So they went to Cairo for a change of air.
So they spent a lot of time doing like very British things in, in the Middle East, like
going to balls and post and polo and social things.
But they were, you know, there for a while.
Then they went back to the, to the UK.
and Agatha met a member of the British Royal Artillery Force, Archibald Christie.
She met him at a fancy party.
They got married in 1914, and then he was sent to France for World War I.
During World War I, Agatha was a nurse for the Red Cross.
There, she became an apothecary assistant, which sounds, we more fun than being like a pharmacist.
Right.
I mean, what does an apothecary do?
A pharmacist is the same thing.
Oh, got it.
But because that, she learned about poison.
because it still wasn't like medicine like we have today.
You know, it was like, well, concoctions and stuff.
So she learned a lot about that.
And she would use those stories, like how to use different poisons in her books later, which is fun.
She always liked writing and she always liked reading.
Okay, her first novel was rejected six times.
And then she found her second novel, she found success with.
It's called The Affair at Stiles, which is the first Air Clu Poirot book.
So he is, that's the name.
name. And who he is is a character of hers who is a Belgian police officer. And he's like,
retired, but like not really retired and keeps getting into all these like shenanigans. And it's
fun. If you want to picture what this character looks like, the person who played him on TV for
the longest time was named David Suchet. And he is the person who played the French guy who
was trying to find Bigfoot in Harry and the Henderson's. Do you know, can you picture that person?
that's a deep I'm gonna I can't picture
in my mind for some reason I picture of Steve Martin
it's kind of it's a little bit like
Steve Martin in the Pink Panther
I think that's like a parody yeah that's like a parody of it
that's not it but it's a parody of it for sure because it's like a little
mustache and like he has like a French accent
and you know he's someone else kind of funny
you know right exactly um
it was a bit slow going but by 1923
she was selling books like crazy and everyone loved it
So she was getting really, really popular.
She had a lot of money.
She's a little bit stingy with it.
She didn't flaunt her wealth, but she definitely was making a lot of money.
And in 1919, she had her only child, Rosalind.
So she's definitely like happy with her husband, selling books.
Things are going really well.
In 1922, Agatha traveled the world on a promotional tour for a thing called the British Empire Exhibition,
which is exactly what it sounds like.
It's like a world's fair, but just for the colonies.
of Britain and to like show the colonies each other and look how cool we are and look how many
cool things we've done for you you're welcome and one thing that they did yeah like of course they did
and one thing they did is they went to Hawaii and so she learned how to surf which is kind of fun
because that was in like the 1920s when they got back oh that tour was run by a man named
Ernest Belcher so he'll come he'll come back in just a second so later the exhibition had like a
semi-permanent spot for a year in London.
The official aim was, quote,
to stimulate trade,
strength and bonds that bind mother country
to her sister, states, and daughters,
to bring into closer contact the one with each other,
to enable all who owe allegiance to the British flag
to meet on common ground and learn to know each other.
Which is ridiculous.
It's noble, but unrealistic.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So just like a World's Fair, just for them,
I just added that in there because they built a stadium to have that the exhibition in,
and that stadium is now called Wembley Stadium.
So that's where that came from, which is cool.
So now it's 1926.
So she's just been on that tour.
She's writing.
She's very successful.
I guess his mom dies in April and she's super sad.
In August of 1926, Archie asks for a divorce.
While they were on that tour, he met a friend of Belcher, the person who was in charge of the tour, named Nancy Neal.
and he fell in love with her and he wanted to get married.
So we asked Agatha for our divorced, and she was unamused, as you can imagine.
They didn't get divorced right away, but a couple months later, on December 3rd, 1926, this is when
Agatha Christie disappears for 11 days and no one knew where she was and she claims to not
remember it at all.
So I'm going to tell you a little bit of what happened, what people think happened, and then some
of the amazing tabloid journalism, that sounds exactly what it sounded like when Kate Middleton
was missing.
it all dovetails it all we are the same people we've always been is definitely the answer so on
december 3rd 1926 they were still living together in Berkshire Berkshire I don't know whatever
in England he went out for the night and she was mad and this is the part where like you would
see Instagram reels of people trying to find her figure out where she was all the things so here's
what happened, and it's probably none of anyone's business, but it is our business because
it was in the tabloids, and now we can talk about it. But around 9.30 p.m. on December 3rd, I get the
kissed Rosalind, their daughter, good night. Rosalind was 7. She got into her Morris Cowley
car, which, if you look that up, it's a cool car because it's 1926.
Uh-huh. Morris Cowley.
The 1926 one. Oh, my God. That's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know how much money she was
making in the 1920s. By the 1950s, she's making in our money today about two and a half million
pounds a year. So she's making good money. So she leaves her house at 9.30. She disappears
for 11 days. More than 1,000 police officers were involved. It was the first airplane search in
the United Kingdom. The police asked Arthur Conan Doyle and Dorothy Sayers, both mystery novel
writers, to help. And here's the kind of the play-by-play of what
happened. Her car was found on day one on a steep slope, kind of overhanging a quarry. So it's
speculated that she got in a crash right away. This crash is close to where she lived. And they
found her car and had some like papers in it and some clothing. Right away people had ideas.
This place where she crashed was near a lake called the Silent Pool, which was like a lake that was
supposed to have no bottom where people had drowned before. So they were like, did she try to drown
herself did her husband kill her to marry nancy and that's up the police knew but the public
didn't know about the affair until later but i guess i definitely did so they were like did she
potentially you know die by suicide because she didn't want the embarrassment or she didn't want
her husband to leave was it a publicity stunt just to get like more um like more views of her books
you know get to get more things sold could that be what it was what it was um there was a quote i read in a
on a website it called History Extra, where they say, quote,
Arthur Conan Doyle, a keen occultist, tried using paranormal powers to solve the mystery.
He took one of Christie's gloves to a celebrated medium in the hope that it provide answers.
It did not, which is hilarious.
And can you imagine?
Can I propose my theory, or are we not?
We're not there yet.
No, keep going.
Yeah.
So she, so like that's hilarious.
Like in the paper, you're hearing that Arthur Conan Doyle is a calling us to try to find out
where she is. The New York Times has an awesome kind of play-by-play of how the New York Times
published about this story. So on the front page, the New York Times, like, by the next day,
it said, Mrs. Agatha Christie novelist disappears in a strange way from her home in England.
So, like, we're exactly the same, trying to find her. Everyone's trying to figure out what it is.
On December 8th, so two days later, they called off the search. Her brother-in-law said that he had heard
from her and she was fine. So they were like, okay, maybe she's fine. Maybe it's
a big deal. She just walked away for a little bit. On December 10th, the police were like,
we don't buy that. We haven't been able to find her. So they started the search over again.
It's a December 10th, 1926 article in the New York Times. It is next to an ad for fur coats,
which is pretty fun. And it mentioned that they brought her dog into the search. And one of the
other things that they theorized was that she left because her house was haunted and that she had
apparently told a friend, quote, it stands on a lonely lane.
Unlit at night, which has a reputation of being haunted.
The lane has been the scene of a murder of a woman and the suicide of a man.
If I did not leave Sunnydale soon, Sunnydale will be the end of me.
So, like, that's ridiculous, but that was the paper.
You know, people were like, that was the New York Times.
Could that be why she left?
Would that be what happened?
And December 12th, the New York Times said, quote,
without telling why the police still believe that she is somewhere on the downs,
not far from the spot where missing automobile was found.
So they're like, now they think she's dead, you know?
Yeah. And I was like, I love this. It's like a fun mystery. Like, you know, where could she possibly be? She apparently wrote three letters somehow. People are like, oh, we found three letters from her. Were they important? Was it a suicide? No. Was it a note to her husband? What could it be? Her secretary said, quote, Mrs. Christie is too much of a lady for that to say that, like, she was doing publicity or that the note said anything. She said it was just like a regular note that she would give her. Police speculated that she was in London dressed as a man.
which I also imagine nowadays there'd be like that grainy cell phone video of like a dude that kind of looks like I guess a Christy, you know, just like there was a key in the farmer's market.
So they said that they found a letter that she said, only open after my body is found, but like that wasn't true.
There was a seance where held around where her car crashed and they said that it was fall play.
So like all these people are getting involved, obviously, making it their story, just like making shit up, using rumors.
like doing things, but eventually she, oh, what was one more thing? Oh, on December 14th,
the New York Times said, quote, a bottle labeled poison, lead and opium, fragments of a torn-up
postcard, a woman's fur-lined coat, a box of face powder, the end of a loaf of bread, a car
and a car brought box, and two children's books were found in the car. Which is like, so funny.
They're just like, that could mean anything. They also say, quote, the police information,
which they refuse to divulge, which leads them to the view that Mrs.
Christy had no intention of returning when she left home.
So it's all speculation, all rumors, and it's just like in papers around the world.
Eventually, Agatha Christie was found at a spa, a nice hotel called a Swan Hydro and Harrogate.
She had no luggage.
She allegedly didn't know who she was, but she checked in using the name Teresa Neal, which is the full name of her husband's mistress, Nancy Neal.
So like...
No one.
Cheeky.
eventually the hotel's banjo player bob tappen recognized her and called the police she had she said that she didn't know who she was she didn't know how she got there she hadn't recognized herself in the paper because she was obviously on like the front page of the paper in england and like no one recognized her like no one knew it was her so like that's like part of the mystery but also like they probably just weren't saying that they knew that she they're like you can stay here but um one one report i read said that when her husband came into the hotel he sat at a table he sat at a table and
and watched her walk in and he saw her walk in pick up a paper with her picture on it
and put it down and she acted like she didn't know him when she saw him which is hilarious
you know she was I mean yeah my yeah my take on it is like sometimes you just want to get
away from everything yeah that's how many times you hear about like someone like a celebrity
going to like that Malibu resort that does like detox and it's like they probably just
want to just chill for a little bit like just get away
and have an excuse to get away from everyone.
100%.
I think it's 100% what happened.
One more thing that is very similar to right now is that Nancy, the mistress, her dad said in the New York Times, quote,
I cannot hazard any theory why Mrs. Christie should have used my family's name.
He is quoted as saying, quote, my daughter, Nancy, is naturally upset about it.
And so are we all.
There is not the slightest reason for associating Nancy with the disappearance of Mrs. Christy,
which we know is not true.
because we know that she is the mistress of agatha's husband um and again that's just like
unbelievable because i also also saw on instagram today that lady rose hanbury the alleged
mistress of prince william is suing stephen colbert i mean yeah i would
i mean i still think that she did it but like you know it's exactly the same thing
that is happening then and will happen forever we're like we don't know anything so we're
just going to speculate and speculate for these people who are like in the in the news like they're
we missy bull.
Agatha never talked about what happened.
She said maybe in the Daily Mail that she tried to drive into the quarry,
but the car got stuck and she hit her head on the on the steering wheel
and got a little bit of like amnesia.
Maybe that is what happened.
Most likely she was just pissed and went away.
Yeah.
Which is totally fair.
It's most obvious like literally just an obvious answer.
Exactly.
It's like like with Kate Middleton,
the most obvious answer was that she was too sick to tell us anything.
but we were like, what could it be?
You know?
Yeah.
Who doesn't love mystery?
No one.
Everyone was mystery.
Especially a mystery writer who was missing.
Like, that's fun.
You know?
Yeah.
So 15 months later, on March 16th, 1928, Agatha filed for divorce.
Once they were divorced, Archie married Nancy a week later.
Like, of course he did.
Agatha got the kid in 1928.
She went on a trip on the Orient Express, as you know, because she wrote murder on the
Orient Express, which you may have heard of.
That I have heard of.
Yep.
While she was there, she met an archaeologist who introduced her to another archaeologist
named Max Malawan in Iraq.
So they were in Iraq on like a dig.
He was 13 years younger than her.
They got married two years later in 1930, and they were married until her death in
1976.
They did archaeology travels together around the world.
During World War II, she went back to the UK to do more pharmacy work.
There was a part where MI5,
thought that she was actually a spy because of stuff that she was writing was like lining up with
what was happening. But like it turned out obviously like she was not, but they were just like
nervous and suspicious. But also during World War II, she went back to her old job as a pharmacy
tech essentially and and helped with, you know, during the war with that. In the 19th, go ahead.
How do you just go do an archaeology dig?
I don't know, but I love it. And you know what it reminds me of? Have you ever seen the Royal
Tenenbaum?
no
it's obviously what's Anderson
it's one of my absolute favorite movies
but like the husband and wife it's
Angelica Houston and Gene Hackman
and they get divorced
and then like the next scene they go
Epilene Tenenbaum became an archaeologist
I just love that so much I'm like
oh okay great good
it's like it's like the perfect job of like I just want to
get away from everyone and have no
questions asked exactly
exactly so so fun she used archaeology
in a lot of her books then like later like they were
like mysteries that involved like old things that people found, which is super exciting.
In the 1970s, there was a crime in Britain about thalium poisoning, and they solved the crime
because of her book and the way she described the effects of that poisoning.
So she used a lot of her real life work as in the pharmacy and in archaeology, in her books
as well.
She would become a dame commander of the Order of the British Empire, which is like an honorary thing
for the arts. Her husband was also knighted for being an archaeologist, so she technically could
be called Lady Malawan, but who wants to do that? Everybody wants to call her Agatha Christi.
Right. She died peacefully on January 12th, 1976 at the age of 85 at her house. Her daughter very
carefully, you know, took care of her legacy. There are tons of, you know, obviously it's still very,
very lucrative. So parts of her, like, you know, company and the Agatha Christie, like,
limited was sold around it's still being like bought by netflix bought by um a bunch of like you know
big people to make to make movies out of it they're all really really fun um in her lifetime she
probably earned more than a hundred million pounds in today's money so she made a shit ton of
money writing books and traveling the world and then she had those 11 missing days that were
speculated on just the way we speculated on kate middleton those last 11 days um i
how old is her oldest book
1921? I wouldn't be surprised if her stuff is entering
the public domain now. Oh yeah, probably is.
I think he's 75 years
is the cut off of that.
Yeah, I think
let me see. The fair
which is why you ended up seeing all this
explosion of like fun Frankenstein movies
or like vampire stuff with like
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer and all this stuff
is because when this stuff enters a public domain
then he can just do other
Yeah like my recent
horrible movie that I love
When I need a poo
Oh I didn't want to do that
It's so stupid
It's very very stupid
Like definitely don't watch it with your kids
It is like over the top
It's like hostile level gory
But that's because it went to the public domain
And so they could do it
That's what is happening on John Oliver right now
Because Steamboat Willie
The original Mickey Mouse is in the public domain
so he like has it in all of his marketing and talks about all the time
John Oliver
yeah
and he has like a guy dressed like Steamboat Willie like on his show all the time
in the public domain is really funny
but there are six Agatha Christie books in the public domain in the US
and all the way up to the murder of Roger Ackroyd from 1926
so you're right
the push of them oh
fun
I did not know that.
And I made it very clear on this episode that I should probably read a lot more than I do because, yeah.
I'll read and I'll tell you about it.
If we could have that kind of friendship where you can just be my literary.
That's literally what we're doing for us.
I'm reading a book every week and telling you about it.
We do have that kind of friendship.
No, no, we don't because you're not telling me about like the book she wrote.
But in this case, I didn't read a book, but like for next week, I had something I was going to do today, but I'm moving it to next week because I wanted to do this today because of all of the missing British women in the news stuff. But, you know, I read a book and I'm going to tell you about it.
Okay.
I read so many books. They're on our Instagram. If you look at our Instagram story, as there's highlights of all the books that I've read in the past couple of years. I haven't added to the books that you've read to it. If you want me to let me know.
Thank you, Taylor. That's a fun little, fun little.
dig but i've read um read a ton of books that's all that's the end of my story
all right we're proud of you um maybe i'll watch murder on the orient express tonight isn't there a new
murder on the orient express i was literally thinking when you said murder on the orient express i was
like i have heard that i was like why have i heard that it's a movie yeah yeah like oh there's one
from 2017.
That was the most recent one.
I'm going to Google something real quick.
Most selling author of all time.
Are you fact checking me?
It's just like the...
Wait, let's do most selling author of all time.
There's a list on Wikipedia.
Yeah, you're right.
it's still
no matter what
Agatha Christie
Thank you
I know I'm right
I look it up
Although I guess I see the point
of like
It's just too close to tell
But like
How would you
So Shakespeare is from like
The late 1500s
How on earth
Would you have any idea
You just can't
I know
Because I remember
Like this like
I remember one time
There was something
Where like
Katie Perry has sold
More records than the Beatles
You know
people were like oh my god i can't believe it but you're like yeah because buying a beatles record
involved like getting up and going to the store you know and like however they did that and then like
the katy perry stuff you can just download it and that counts through those numbers so it's just like
things are more accessible now so i don't know how you quantify william shakespeare's books but i feel
you quantify someone's books today but that's like kind of different yeah yeah yeah it's a
totally different book wait are all signs sold more than stephen king
that totally makes sense too because he sells books to kids and they're shorter and you can buy him in his classic book fair so if i'm going to this classic book fair i'm going to buy six oral sign books you know i was obsessed for all sign so i i i when i was a kid i had like this like a sheet of paper that i wrote down every aral sign book i read and it was like i think i got one summer like in one year like 150 something books and it was like that's what i mean that's not great i have a
a board evolves saving king's works it's in it's public anybody wants to look at it wow the 50s she has a
great lady is up there anyways now i'm just like looking up ian fleming she sold as much as
ian fleming yeah that makes sense put it all into context of who's reading these books you know
well it's different though because ian fleming has like a 56 year head start on her right but like
it takes nothing to be like oh i'm going to read a few shades of gray i guess i never i never read that
particular i did not either but i know i get it i know what it is about i understand um sweet
well thanks for sharing taylor very fun do you have any list in or mail for your episode i actually
have a bunch and it's all for you um it is i have a bunch of suggestions for you i sent you that
email from keara i have more from someone nadine sent me on instagram and then my
friend Morgan, who I talked about last episode, she also sent me, she knows someone who climbed
on Everest and she sent me a bunch of information about them. And I want to send it to you for you to
read and report back on. I would love that. Wait, is this someone that she knows enough that I can
actually talk to? I don't know if they survived. I did not read everything. So I need, they were
in an ambulance. I don't know the details. I'm going to send it to you. Okay. You can figure it out.
But yeah. So, yeah, thank you. We got a lot of responses to the last week, which was
super fun and you've got a lot of suggestions and thank you yeah we we love we love getting that
feedback it's so so awesome so cool um so yeah please do write right right to us doom to phelpod at gemmael
pod we're always eager to get your feedback so please let us know yeah thank you all so much