Door Bumper Clear - 101 - Eye for an Eye

Episode Date: May 30, 2018

The greatest day in racing is complete! Matthew Dillner joins TJ, Brett and Jason to talk Kyle Busch’s accomplishment, the Indy 500, Xfinity restrictor plate package, racing on a street course, heart-shaped bathtubs, fan day show highlights, and more. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, what's up, DBC fans? If you haven't heard about Anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let us explain. Well, first of all, Freddie, the best part is it's free. There's nothing better than using a free awesome service. To make the process simple and easy, there's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Anchor helps people find your show by distributing the podcast for you so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and many more platforms. Also, you can make money from your podcast with no.

minimum listenership. I like money. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. We love using Anchor. It's a great platform that lets us hear from the fans in reaction theater with Anchors leave a message feature. So when you create your account with Anchor, you can also utilize their feature

and make your own podcast. TJ will be your first guest. So download the free Anchor app or go to anchor.fm.fm. to get started. That's an C-H-O-R.fm. to get started. This is a production.

of Dirty Mo Media. Outside, door, bumper, clear the 18th. Benzcar had here in a long time. You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you. You're clear. Check the flag.

You're win. Hey, everybody. It's TJ Majors. It's part of the 22 cup car, 25 truck. And a little bit different show today. That's the first time you've ever said, it's T. I'm T.J. Majors. It's today.

So it's good to be beside of T. Brick Griffin Spotter, Clint Boyer, Elliot Sadler, Mike Snyder, thanks to OneMay Financial. For bringing the show to you guys, we've got a good-looking co-host today. Not as good-looking as the normal. Not as good-looking as the normal. You could tell by the voice he just portrayed that we were a little deeper. A little deeper. And a lot larger.

I'm like the Pontiac host. I always kid. People say, hey, you know, what's the difference between you and your Dillner? I'm like, I'm the Pontiac Dillner. I'm wider. Yeah. Yeah. Your brother's tall, man.

Yeah. You're both tall. Yeah. How tall is your dad? I look like a Hershey's Kiss. That's all his dad. Is he tall? Yeah, he's about 6'4.

He was about 6'4, yeah. Yeah. Y'all are big boys. Oh, yeah. How is Dillner doing? I hadn't seen him a long time. Dillner, meet me? No, the other Dillner.

Bob's doing great, man. Speed 51 deal. Yeah. And working short track stuff, working ARCA, doing the telecast for MAV TV with that. So it's great to see. That speed 51 deal is awesome for people like me that love grassroots, small-town. People like you that travel. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You ever watch Speed 51? Yeah, they do a lot of good stuff. There's a lot of short track races that you wouldn't really know about. And because of them, they're actually on people's radar now, and you actually get to enjoy the event without going there. So there's a lot of events they cover.

They've been, I saw him doing some dirt racing last week. I saw him in a dirt late model race. Cherokee? It was on, it was on Mav TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a pretty big race, I guess. It was entertaining. But, yeah, there's a lot of things you get to enjoy that we really wouldn't get the chance to enjoy without having that Speed 51 stuff.

Yeah. Memorial Day yesterday. Oh, yeah. What did you guys do? Man, I just kind of chilled out. I had a buddy of mine coming to town that's in the Army. He's a paratrooper from Fayetteville. He's an 82nd Airborne.

And, man, they're crazy. I mean, he had a jump this morning at 5 a.m. you know, at 1,000 feet off the ground, he's going to come barreling out of the back of a plane. He wasn't jumping with gear, so he was literally acting like it wasn't a big deal. He's like, man, I don't have any gear on. This is easy. I just show up and jump out of the plane land, and I'm done. And I'm like, yeah, that sounds like a normal day for most Americans.

But it was cool to spend it with a guy actually in active military, you know, given the fact that you're remembering the guys and girls that aren't still with us, you know what I mean? So, but we just chilled out, man, had a couple beers by the pool. Yeah, we just had a little bit. bit of catching up on some birthday parties. We had a great wolf lodge. No, we took Scarlett Brad. They had my daughter and his daughter

are the same birthday, so we took her present. They swapped gifts. That's cool. Yeah, and then it's kind of it. It really wasn't a nice, it really wasn't a nice day to grill out. I mean, we grew out a little bit, but it really wasn't a nice hot day that I think everybody would have enjoyed a little bit more, but a little bit of rain. But yeah, we didn't do a whole lot, really.

Yeah, I think it's cool on Twitter the amount of people that respond that are in the military when you send out a, you know, a tweet or a message basically saying thank you, you know. There's a lot of people that listen to this podcast and that are following us on Twitter that are in the military or we're in the military and our veterans. So I think, you know, we did that NASCAR Salutes program this weekend at the track. I have soldiers and their families, man. It's bone chilling, you know. I mean, you watch that go down and it literally just gives me chills, man. It's awesome. Yeah, I mean, what NASCAR does.

to remember. And that's the thing, too. You look all over Twitter and there's people that'll thank veterans. And it's awesome to thank veterans on Memorial Day. But, you know, some of the tweets, some of the things on social really nailed it because it's really a day of remembrance.

It's not Veterans Day, man. It's Memorial Day. And it's designed to pay tribute to those who pay the ultimate sacrifice. And NASCAR, man, I'll tell you, this is weird for me being a fan almost on Sunday walking around the track and seeing the names on the cars

and having a different perspective than what I have been for 19 years as a media member. Right. And it's unreal the amount of respect, the undercurrent of respect in our garage, and you see it on TV and everything. Yeah. But, man, we had a good time this week. Besides that, man, there was J.R.M. Fanday.

We did. I think Jason's got some clips he's going to play. I guess it's our highlights. It may be low lights. You never know with us. I don't think we ever have highlights. Oh, plenty of highlights. If we've not made one highlight in a hundred and one shows.

One highlight of the day, it had been your dirt. Pretty ass blue shoes. Hey, guess what I bought yesterday? New blue shoes? Your dad bought you new shoes? You didn't buy them yourself? Yeah, when he comes into town, I'll use up some free, get some free stuff. College kids got to do that.

So I got some new shoes. Perfect. You know you can wash them. I know. Are they blue? I want a new shoes anyway. No, they're kind of gray. So you're going to start wearing gray now to match?

Everything is going to be gray? Yeah, I've got to use my nice shoes while I'm here. I don't wear those when I do other stuff. Yeah. So you have two pairs of shoes. shoes. Dude, that's it. That's it.

I knew a guy at one time that had one pair of jeans. Yeah. I'm like, what are you crazy? Yeah. How many pairs of short shorts do you have, Brett Griffin? A bunch. I hate jeans. Jeans are too hot, man.

They're not comfortable. Jeans are pretty, uh, man. I bet you, you know, we're at the track 160 days a year. I bet you I'll wear jeans twice. Yeah. And it's on days that are, it's in its 50s and I can deal with it, man. Because if it's over 60, I'm out. Yeah.

I mean, we got, we got the pants. that we get that are, that are, um, they're fairly thin. They're not bad. Um, but man, it would be nice to, it would be nice to have, um, you know, khaki shorts type things approved. Yeah. Is there a segue, is there a segue? Is there a segue we could do here? Speaking of pants or lack there of there because she doesn't wear pants all the time. You guys did talk about. What are you talking about? Patrick. She didn't wear pants. In your, in your outside show, uh, there. You know, we had it here J or M fan day, man. There is like tons of race fans here listen to it.

And you guys sure fired him up. You want to roll that first clip about Danica? Great. I know Danica. I got to work with her when she was here. How well do you know her? She was a lot of fun to work with. Oh, how much fun?

A lot of fun. So, you know, I got to know her and she's a great, like, I'm excited to see her do this. She's got a really good personality. So I'm excited to see her get up there. and make some jokes and do this show. So I think it's a good idea to put her up there. What was her biggest asset when you worked for? Personality.

Oh, nice. Brett, we have to keep it going. We cannot cut the show out. Oh, sorry. TJ. So you're talking about the SPEs. TJ never answered any of my questions about her. Did you see how he just ignored all that?

Yeah, I don't know. Your mic wasn't coming through. I'm sure that's what happened. Yeah, your mic wasn't coming through. I still didn't hear it. Yeah. You're still excited to see Danica host the ESPs? I'm excited.

I think she will do a phenomenal job. I think she'll do a great job. I think she will too. Yeah, I think we might get ready to see a Danica. I think we might see a different side of Danica come out now. If she's going to start doing things like this, we might see a different person come around. But we'll see. She can only monetize her personality and her brand.

this point, right? She can't monetize her ability anymore to drive a race car and go out and be an athlete. She has essentially taken her helmet off. And we all know when you take your helmet off for whatever reason, you're just not as big of a deal to the sport and the fans that have followed you. So she's going to have to be a little more humble and a little more chill and a little more gracious to be able to do that, in my opinion. I think she'll be, I think she will stay relevant longer. She's got enough stuff going. She does. In the background already that she'll that'll come, you know, we'll see more of that come up. But she's got enough of personality and enough of that going on that I think she will,

you know, there's some guys right now, if they quit racing, we, we, they'd fall off the radar. Yeah. So, yeah, for sure. All right, so you guys also raced in a go-kart race, let's look at GoPro, then had some words about it. All right. So father race at GoPro. I have heard some stories about this one. Please explain.

You want to go first or what? I had fun, man. go ahead and tell them that I'll tell them the truth good time uh I ran next to last in the first race first of all it's a weight thing right so TJ what do you weigh we let up so we get on a scale so we're pretty close we let up and the scale was wrong the scale said I weighed 250 and I weighed 220 so what did the scale say you weigh 220 said I weighed 250 and you don't yeah right anyway the go car race is fun they do a big deal out there called a little 600 um I certainly didn't have a good showing but I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish I left there two years ago with a broken

rib. So the guy that wrecked me every time I saw him, and I told him I was going to wreck him every time I saw him. And I did wreck him every time I saw him. And the last time I wrecked him, I flipped him off. So I had a good time. Of course, I think we should reveal it. You're talking about Ford Martin. That's probably accurate. That's probably accurate. Talk to Ford on Saturday before the Xfinity you raised. Oh yeah, was he sore? Put it this way. Okay, if you're at a go-kart track, right, and you're not watching, I'm sitting there with my kid and my wife, and you hear somebody He's not. You know they wrecked hard.

I'm talking. I'm like, I look up like, man, this is not good. And I saw it. He was pissed. But, you know, I talked to him on Saturday. He wasn't as pissed as I thought. But I heard his dad might be a little ticked off. I didn't see the one of them coming up to me pissed off.

You didn't actually do it. You didn't even wreck him. It was Campbell. I wrecked him four times. Four times. Campbell wrecked him the big time. So this was premeditated, though. I can't speak for Doug Campbell.

Who's Fox for Casey Kane. I can just speak for me. All of mine were intentional. Hey, man, he owns it. I mean, I put him in the grass once. That's the only reason I got the wrecked him the first time. So that's six times that poor Ford Martin got wrecked. So let's recap the first wreck.

So the first race, and here's the thing for me, man. As long as I'm in the draft, I can kind of keep up. But the second I lose the draft, I'm screwed. And literally, people don't think of a go-kart that'll run 50 miles an hour creates a draft, but it does. So, T.J. I was it was TJ and then it was I'm sorry it was Ford and then TJ and then me in this first race and TJ caught him and run him in the grass well when TJ run him in the grass that's the only reason I caught him as soon as I caught him bam I dumped him so after the thing I was like hey TJ thanks for

wrecking forward man it made me be able to wreck him again and TJ was like I didn't really think I wrecked him which is typical TJ he's not going to own anything right that wasn't he's in the dirt and I was like TJ you put all four tires of his in the grass he's out there in the grass bouncing and carrying on and a second he came back on a track I cleaned him out. Gone. Well, I mean. Thanks, dude.

I owe you one for that. Yeah. So. Is he going to get back at you all? What do you think next year? How? Yeah, there's way too many of us. How are you going to get back at us?

We're a fraternity, Dillner. Come on. There's, yeah. I weighed, I was under, I was under 200, two years ago when I did it. So I was able to keep up with those guys. And I was running, I think, fourth or fifth out of 14 of us. On the first freaking lap, he wrecked me. And Eddie DeHont drilled me in the side.

And Eddie was running like 12, so he really had a lot of momentum coming through there. And when he hit me, I was like, oh, my God, I can't breathe. He hit me that hard. And it broke my ribs. And I was like, if I ever see this little, I'm going to spin him out every time. So the first race, I wrecked him. And we got off the go carts, and I walked over to him. I said, I'm going to wreck you every time I see you today.

So you literally told him that? And he said, oh, congratulations on Winnie Martinsville. I said, I'm going to wreck you every time I see the back of your helmet today. I'm just telling you. And I did. I don't know if he'll ever, I don't know if he'll ever finish a spotter race there. I don't think he will. Because if he gets out front, it's not going to matter who it is.

They're going to take care of it in the next corner. So the Sega eight race, he started on the pole when I started second. The very first corner I sent him. He didn't even make a corner. I wonder why everyone just keeps taking him out. Maybe because he's like he weighs 80 pounds soaking wet and everybody knows he can run circles around him because at GoPro, man. He told me he weighed like a hundred seven. And I watched him get on a scale and it said 1-50.

And I was like, you little, you're trying to get away with stuff and you're 30 pounds already. Yeah. So, yeah. I hope next year we have a bigger field and I think we can of normal full-time cup spotters because it would be a lot of fun to get. Most of these guys don't want to show up because they're afraid. Because they're heavy. Yeah, that's part of the feelings. Honestly, that race, that race we have.

was actually pretty good. We had... Really good. Yeah. Furny Kraf won on the first lap, and then you guys had a battle to the finish. That was amazing. But, I mean, it's fun because we make it fun at that point, you know,

and that's all we really need to do is go there and make a fun race out of it. Not get serious. Yeah. I like Ford. I don't have anything against him, but he broke my ribs, and I'm an eye for an eye guy. Then I got him back. You didn't get his ribs, though, so is it not finished? No, I'm good.

I'm done. My Ford Martin Rec Fest is over, and if he ever touches my go-card again, I'm going to start it back up. I don't know what's worse in his mind. Ford Martin or Cali people. Roll it. So I would put a mile and a half out northern California somewhere or something like that. California people are really weird. I'm not going back to California. I can promise you that. I don't understand how we're not in Nashville. I bet he goes to Sonoma. I have to go to Sonoma. You said you're not going to. It's part of my job. California. I know. They're weird. Anybody from California?

I have cousins in California, and they're weird. I don't care if they're in California. They're probably weird if they are. Maybe people think South Carolinas are weird. South Carolina people are weird. You're the watermelon capital of the world. We're the fun weird. I just want to know, like, I'm scared to ask why you think

Carolifony people are weird. Scared to ask. They're super liberal. That's super weird to me. Did you hear what I said? I said I would put a mile and a half. I didn't mean a mile and a half. I put either a plate track or a short track out there.

Not no mile and a half. A mile and a half, so it might be plate tracks scene. I'm just kidding. No kidding. They may be plate tracks coincide for sure. No, I listen to me.

I like racing and Fontana. I like going to Sonoma, but we all know. Until we paved it. We all know that California and Colorado are full of super liberal weirdos. So I can say that because I'm, that's what I think. Because you're a conservative weirdo?

I'm a semi-conservative weirdo. I'm not like a crazy right-wing conservative. Sorry, we did. All right, we got fan. We had a fan question from the crowd. This was a good one. Here's one from the Travis, who's been on the show before. Yeah, that should, hopefully it'll work out.

Make sure this guy ask a question. I reckon. That's Kristen's boyfriend. Oh, Travis. Travis Campbell. Yeah. Not Campbell, is it? Is it Campbell?

Jason, is your phone case blue? Yeah. Sorry, I saw blue. Nice. Good job. A look of squirrel. Who throws better tailgate parties? SEC fans or Phil's Mafia?

We know the answer. of that. Yeah, one of them's on Twitter every week. One of them's not. So have y'all seen the YouTube videos from these Bills games? I'm a huge Buffalo Bills fan somehow. I don't know. You don't have to, yeah.

Tell me something that I have not heard. So, but hey, I've been to a lot of Bill's games in the 90s and they were a lot of fun. So no, I did not go through any tables. But they, it's a fun time. They have, the stadium up there is really old. It's surrounded by huge parking lot, so everybody tailgates right there. And it's a lot of fun. It's just a lot of fun.

They might get a little wild. Tailgating anywhere is fun. You guys tailgating this weekend? Anybody? Yeah, one person. Yeah. Big party crowd. All I know is I want to know if you've ever done.

You're a Bills fan. I'm a Bill's fan too before I moved here and became a Panthers fan. fan. So they got to eat it? No, this old guy gets out there in the parking lot and he lets people douse him in like, like there's 50 60 people out there douse him and ketchup

and mustard and he's just like ah, wow. Yeah. That's pretty crazy. And he's not from California. What makes y'all so crazy up there just tellgate and deal, man? Because I've seen some YouTube videos and I'm like, wow. You know, I don't,

I think the bills have been really bad for so long. You just drink more to make it better. Because I'm telling you, I've been to a lot of games where they were terrible and you just go and party. Have fun.

You would, like, there's buses that would get together and go to the game. You ever take one? I've never been to a Bill's game my whole life and I always wanted to. So you could go over there by Batavia Downs

and you could get on, they had a parking lot, you could put your car in parking lot and they would pick you up. So on this, and on these buses, I mean, there's, you get up there and they,

people bring kegs, all sorts of stuff. I mean, you're, it's, I don't, I don't know why they drink so much of them games. I really don't. So they go to a party and hope a football game breaks out.

Yes, pretty much. Do they stay for at least half the game? Or do they even go inside for the game? You would be surprised the amount of Bill's fans that actually go to these games still, knowing, you know, hey, there's a really good chance they're not going to win still, that go and still support this team. Like, have you ever seen that? You need a good quarterback yet and had one since Jim Kelly.

Well, I'm hoping we've fixed it. that but have you seen the hockey ratings where the the biggest um viewers the amount of viewers come from did you see that yeah yeah even like in these playoffs like the biggest markets the buffalo yeah yeah it's crazy yeah so who won last night's hockey game uh Vegas golden nights dude did you see like the odds on the winning championship preseason oh my god I put down money in my new york calendar is at like 60 to 1 yeah it was like 500 to 1 yes yeah for the for the Vegas golden night I think it's awesome I do too it's well it's never happened before somebody put down like $5.

Somebody put $50. I saw $50. It's going to make some bank. Bank, big bank. Yeah. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Real cool.

Good for that town, man. Yeah. I mean, plus it's made it. It's awesome, man. It's been awesome to see. I think so. Yeah. All right, let's wheel on over to spot on, spot off here.

Let's start out with Kyle Busch. Of course, Wednesday, Coca-Cola 600 becomes the first driver. And I love this stat, because I don't know. if it's totally true, but it probably is, if you look back in history. But he becomes the first driver to win at all 23 cup tracks. Spot on, spot off. Spot on, blown away. I had no idea that he had already won at 22 of the 23, to be honest with you.

I don't know what rock I've been living under because I certainly follow the sport and respect what these guys do. But I don't know how you don't look at this and just say, wow. I mean, it's so hard to win a race, not to mention winning at every racetrack. insane. Yeah, I mean, that's, um, the only person that I remember being in that conversation previously to this was Jeff Gordon.

So there was a, there was a list of tracks that Jeff hasn't won at yet. And that was, you know, he, he chipped away at that. But to have, um, you know, Kyle accomplished that, that's a pretty big, that's a pretty big, um, yeah, that's pretty big. Matthew and I were talking about before you got here. I mean, when you say this guy has done this, and oh, by the way, Dale Earnhardt didn't do it.

it. Jimmy Johnson didn't do it. Jeff Gordon didn't do it. The greatest to ever drive these race cars that are all in the Hall of Fame, they couldn't do it, but yet this guy did it. We speak about his talent a lot. He has a championship, you know, and this may be one of those things that gives him a little bit more confidence because we all see that Kyle can can go out and make a mistake and then it compound, right? And it seems like the new Kyle, the more mature Kyle, the past few years, is doing less of that. So I think by him having this checked off and look, I mean, let's be honest, guy dominated a 600 mile race. So not only did he win it, he won it in very dominating fashion.

It was very impressive. I literally had no idea until yesterday when I saw it on Twitter. And I was like, wow, all 23. Yeah, that's pretty big. I don't know what you could do that's bigger other than just keep winning back-to-back championships like Jimmy did five years ago, you know? Yeah. I mean, you, yeah, man, winning like 10, 12 races a year would be pretty big.

Yeah. And that used to happen. So when Jimmy win 10 races a year, a lot of time. Yeah. You got two guys that might do it this year. Yeah, Harvick and Kyle may win 10 each. Yeah. But you never know.

It'll swing. All right, spot on, spot off. Chevy shows improvement. Four top 10 finishes in this race, a great effort by the bow ties. You know, spot on for them for, you know, chipping away at it and making some progress. I don't think I don't think the Toyota's and them were as behind as they said

they've been saying they were I don't think they've been that far behind they were very strong Charlotte but yeah spot on for Chevy for you know start maybe they're turning the corner a little bit now the guys in the trenches

are always in these shops working ahead to get their cars better but when you look at Charlotte the week prior we ran a couple completely different package. So it didn't give teams, A, a head start on what they were going to need for the 600, which may have helped them out a little bit. And B, it also gave them a head start on actually preparing for the 600 with this particular car, because this rules package was completely different.

So I think it was kind of a double-edged thing here that helped Chevrolet get elevated and help Toyota go out and dominate this thing. But when you look at who ran up front there, it's guys that typically run well there anyway. McMurray had the high line working. Larson's good a mile and a half. Jimmy, come on now. We know how good he is at Charlotte. This thing used to be called Lowe's Motor Speedway because he was so dang good there.

I mean, I know they paid $10 million a year or whatever it was a sponsor, but they didn't have to. He owned it for years and years and years. So I think that the, you know, it's a combination. But they certainly had as a group more speed than they've had. I also saw, you know, some of those Chevroletes a little bit more skewed out that I'd seen them, especially the 88. So they're finding things that are going to find speed and it's going to make them be able to go out and run well. Yeah, one thing, though, is like you're looking at, I mean, we're still looking at, fifth, sixth, seventh, ninth, or, you know what I mean?

We're still looking at the back half of the top ten, which was, who was the top five? You had the 18, 78, 78, 11, 11, two, and then Jimmy. So, I mean, where was the 20? Great question. He was up there somewhere. He was up there and then had a pit road penalty. Oh, that's right. He was probably going to be top five run.

He was going to be a top five car for sure. So that tells me that, you know, there's... Chevy's still off. Shevvy teams are still a little off. A little bit. I mean, we had some damage. I think we could have ran up in the top ten. You know, we had some damage from that wreck from Jimmy and Denny.

Harvick's out of the race. Carl Arsson could have had a better finish if he didn't have a race. So, but, you know, I still think we're on the same type of path. Spot on, spot off. The fence climber. What do you think? How many beers you think? I think this guy to add.

I don't know how you spot on and he is. To me, this guy, to me, this guy is an idiot. Yeah. I mean, you can't, look, if you want to, don't be that guy. Like, yeah, okay, you're all over social media now, but you're probably got arrested. Probably. So it's only going to take somebody to try to go a little bit further and make it worse, you know, and we don't need people climbing the fence. I think it's, I think, you know, you look at it as a fan and you go, man, this is kind of the equivalent to a streaker.

at a ball game. Yeah. But here's the thing. Just go streak. Streak and run around the fence. Don't climb the damn thing. If you fall off, you're going to die. Like you're going to ruin the fan experience for everybody there watching you fall off and die.

So don't be an idiot. You know, I think the guy at Richmond, you know, he climbed it. He just went up there and sat. I was like, hey, what's up, y'all? I'm chilling. Man, it's a good seat. You know, this guy had climbed and you couldn't really tell if he was going to keep climbing or whatever he was doing.

I guess he was taking fan videos and putting it all over Twitter and Instagram or whatever. But, man, just keep your eye, keep your two feeling. the ground. I'll say spot on to the security officer. Going at it. Instead of waiting for like NASCAR to throw a yellow and calling up to his superiors, that dude, Spider-Man, that thing, up the fence. Yeah. And drugged this guy down, one-handed, you know, and keeping his balance and not falling. I say spot onto him because that was pretty dark. And that's got to be a little bit scary. Not for him, but, you know, he's a few feet off the ground. But when he grabs this guy's ankle, that guy's 10 feet or more

off the ground. And drunk. And he got pulled down. That's, yeah, no thanks. Don't do it for you listening. It's not worth it. The fact that he hung on, I think he had too much down force. Don't streak either. I don't want to say, well, wait a minute. Hey, there was a group of people under me.

Don't streak. It depends. Hey, there was a, yeah, no, I know, I didn't want to say that part. So there was a group of people under me during the Xfinity race, and every caution that came out, they took Jello shots. Nice. I mean, like, you'd watch the yellow come out. You look down, they're popping their cooler open.

They're handing out jello shots. They're doing the little tongue thing around. What a good idea. And they're just, jamming these jealous. Like fans do that. Don't climb fences. That's much better idea than climbing a fence.

And you feel better after. I'll tell you, the dude at Richmond got arrested, spent 30 days in jail. Deserved it. Is banned from ever coming back to Richmond. Good. But he's not as dumb as that fan we saw run across the backstretched polka. Oh my gosh. I forgot about that guy.

Remember that? I do. That was under green. I mean, only deer are dumb enough to do that. Remember the fan at Watkins Glen that ran out to Matt Kinz's car under red flag on the autograph and ask for an autograph? I mean, that's a special brand. This guy, though, this guy here and the Pocado guy is a special brand of dumb.

Yeah. Let's just be honest. Yeah, that's dumb. I mean, under a red flag, you're just sitting there. Whatever, man, I want your autograph. Yeah, what's up, dude? What are you doing? Nothing.

I know. Hey, Matt, will you sign this? Hey, man, I don't think I can. I think they're going to be mad if I sign this. Fans are cool, though, man. I love fans. That what makes it cool. Spot on, spot off.

Last year's Indy 500. this year's Indy 500. Oh man. I can say it was still an interesting race. You didn't know what was going to happen at the end and I think that's the thing about Indy is you know, it seems people are wanting that big run

drafting pass every straightaway and you can't really be like that. Yeah, I feel like they had a little bit better package last year to be able to do that. But this year's race was still exciting. The drivers had their hands full. There was multiple people wrecking by themselves

Just trying to get a handle on their cars And people that are good at indie cars too The LEO Castro-Navis Yeah I mean a bunch of them were wrecking by themselves So that tells me these guys had their hands full And to see some of the moves And some of these guys were making

Knowing they could I mean that Rossi that outside That outside pass he passed five cars Holy cow And these guys are running charge of the grass On the backstretch I mean their left front is on the edge of the grass, and I'm like, holy cow, like, what are these guys doing? 225 miles an hour.

And to have, I wasn't really sure if those guys in front were staying out, we're going to try to make it, or they were going to pit. Well, when they pulled off and pit, I was like, because I wasn't sure Will was going to be able to get around those two guys up front because he wasn't making as quicker progress as I thought. So I thought it was a good race. I was spot on for last year's package. I was highly entertained. This year, I was spot off, man. When Dana Correct, I left and took shower and went to the track. And then I did watch the end of it, which was a pretty cool ending because you didn't know who was going to make it on gas.

I'm serious. You're serious. Compared to last year's race, that arrow package was way better than this year's race. So you weren't thrilled by some of the wheel-to-wheel stuff. I think the restarts were extremely exciting. And I think after 10 laps, it was very boring. Really? Yeah.

Compared to what they had. And their product on, they put on the track last year was I was blown away with it. You know, but I also, the best IndyCar race I've ever seen was Fontana probably five years ago. Oh my God. And, I mean, that's one of the best races I've ever watched in my life. That was a scary race to watch. It was. And people were terrified of it.

But it was so exhilarating. If you want to YouTube something, you go back in YouTube the last IRA race at Fontana. I mean, I was just glued to the television. And they all got out going, we're scared. We won't want to do that again. And I was like, as a fan, I was blown away. I mean, they had 200,000 viewers. You know, like, it's unfortunate.

But I mean, I compare it to that Fontana race last year, the Indy 500. I would say it was an entertainment value of that high for me. Talk about spot on, spot off. You mentioned it. Danica Patrick wrecked, sent Brett Griffin to the showers. Spot on, spot off. She wrecks in her last career race. I just hate it for her.

I do. I mean, you know, you see someone who pioneered a lot of different things as a woman behind the wheel of a car. You know, she did it in Indy car. She won a race there. She came over here. It was competitive. in the Xfinity series, especially at a road course, you know, and some plate stuff, gets to the cup level, barely is competitive to run top 10, you know, for probably 10% of her career.

You know, the other 90% was spent running out of the top 20, but nonetheless, she opened a lot of doors, had a lot of marketability. And I just hated to see her go out on that note because there's some, we know how hard she worked to get there. You know, it's not like you just wake up and become a race car driver. She sacrificed her family sacrificed. she's traveled all these years. She's run all these races.

She's put her life in danger, and you just hate to see the final page in Danica's book as a race car driver be a wreck. I did. Yeah, I would have liked to have seen her run good. So did you see the end car her? Yeah. Did you see she was going to the corner like,

mom, boom? And the leader at car when he was leading, it was like, wom, bha. Like, that's how bad her car was handling. That may be one of the best highlights you've ever done, those sounds like that was impressive but yeah she was she was obviously loose she had her she had her hands full man but yeah i would have liked to see her come out of there with a good run and

be up there going for the win in her last race that way you know she can say look i came back here i got to be really competitive again and um you know moving on other things now but do you think she comes back because i mean nobody wants to cement their legacy with a wreck in their last two races i think she's done you think she's done i just i think of a year or two she just gets that Like her or hater, people criticize Danica a lot. People criticize their numbers or stats. Nobody can criticize the fire. Because that little girl, I'm telling you what, she's got some spunk.

And do you really think, I don't think this is it for her. I think she's smart enough to know she can't get out of these cars for two years and get back in them and expect to be even remotely competitive. She was remotely competitive after a few years in any car, though. You know, when she came back here, I thought she did a good job. Yeah, I just think she's done. I mean, just based on what I see with her personality as far as, you know, she seems done in her interviews. Yeah, I agree that she's done, especially since you build all this up being the end of your deal. You know, you ran the Daytona 500, ran the Indy 500.

You know, you build this whole thing up and then for it not to be the end. Yeah, I feel like she's done. I'd love to see her come back and be, you know, a grand marshal at a race. I'd love to see our sport embrace different personalities on TV throughout the year. You know, I don't, as a sports fan, I enjoy getting different perspective on different weeks watching football, especially college football. Every time the Gamecox play, it's a different broadcast team in the booth. You know what I mean?

I don't hear the same story. I don't hear Mike Joy every single week talking about the young guys or the old guys or how old this guy is. I would love to see TV go out and bring Danica and put her in the booth. That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking. And I'd like to hear Danica commentate be up there and get her views of things because I know she's been involved in quite a bit out there. So I would love to hear her on there.

We need our TV folks. Matthew, you've been in TV. We need to switch it up some. Like, we don't need Jeff Burton, Steve LaTart and Rick Allen in the booth every week when you got guys like Del Jared on your team. And, I mean, just give the fans something different. I think fans like, I think they get tired of the same stuff every week. You know what I mean?

I enjoy different broadcasters, though, in all sports. Well, we know Danica apparently is done behind the wheel, but we're not done yet. We'll be right back after this break. This is your Exalt to Race Center update. I'm Matthew Dillner. A day of remembrance was also a day of endurance as NASCAR ran its longest race of the season, going 600 miles at Charlotte Motor Speedway on the Sunday of Memorial Day weekend. Kyle Busch checked off the last box on his Cup Series track win list in dominating fashion,

netting his fourth victory of the season. The NASCAR Xfinity series was back from its break on Saturday at Charlotte Motor Street. Speedway and Brad Keselowski took the chickered flag. Junior Motorsports Day was highlighted by a fifth place effort by Elliot Sadler in the one main financial number one. This week, the Xfinity and Cup Series honeymoon in the lovely Pocono Mountains for a Saturday Sunday romp at Pennsylvania's Pocono Raceway. The JARM late models are headed to the beach this weekend.

Both Josh Berry and Sam Mayer will race in twin 40 lapers at South Carolina's Myrtle Beach Speedway on Saturday night. This has been your Exalta Race Center update. Exalta is the official paint partner of NASCAR. developing manufacturing and supplying coatings to all types of vehicles and industrial applications. For more in Exalta, please visit ExaltaC.S.com. At one main financial, we believe in the importance of community. That means partnering with our neighbors to reach common goals,

lending a hand when it matters most, and commitment to our neighborhoods. Community isn't just where you are. It's where you make a difference. One main financial, not just in the neighborhood, but part of your community. providing personal loan solutions and one-on-one local service. One main financial. Your needs, your goals, your dreams. Offer subject to restrictions and requirements of the licensee.

For licensing information, visit our website or call us. Let's go into Fast Lane. I'm going to give you four topics. There's going to be racing topics, and then one that's completely off the wall, and you guys have 30 seconds each to comment. Okay. Following is when Kyle Bush now leads a series of 25 playoff points

compared to Harvix 24. Who will have the most points once the playoff starts? These two are so close right now. I think it could go either way. I think it depends on which one doesn't have any, which one has the least amount of bad luck. I think the four probably could have got some playoff points Sunday night had he had a tire problem.

So that would have made it, you know, evened up again. So it's going to be tough. These two are going to be back and forth, I believe, right before we hit the playoffs. Yeah. I mean, we watched Truex last year get a huge playoff advantage. point-wise with all the stages that he wanted and races that he wanted. And it literally, you say mathematically, it can carry him almost to homestead. I mean, we got two guys that may be in this position.

So if they keep accruing points at the rate, they're doing them, we're going to note who two of the four are in this homestead race before we even get to the first playoff race. I got to go with Harvick, though. I think, you know, T.J. just said it right. I mean, I think Harvick could have probably contended to win this race had he not had a ball tire. He drove from the back to top five really fast. I think he's the fastest guy out there.

I'm hoping these two realize the value of the playoffs point, you know, the playoff points and maybe they start getting into it a little bit up there and making it exciting. Yeah, that'd be good. All right, Charlotte marks the halfway point of the regular season. So far, what do you guys think the biggest surprise is? Man, that's a good question. I got to say, though, and I think we've said this before,

the biggest surprise is Chevrolet. I really thought they were going to come out with this new nose and really be able to go out and contend to win races. And let's be honest, I mean, they got a lot of good race car drivers and a lot of good race teams carrying the Chevrolet banner. And they're just not competitive. They're not contending to win races on a weekly basis. And I didn't think that was going to be the case coming in to this season.

Yeah, I got to agree with that. There's, you know, I thought that'd be quite a bit more competitive to start the year. I wasn't quite sure the, you know, the Ford's were going to be as quick. But just the lack of the Chevy, you know, appearing up there that much definitely stands out to me. Probably my second biggest surprise has been Suarez. I think he's shown a lot of signs of growth. And I think that, you know, I think he puts a lot of pressure on a guy. like Eric Jones because we know that Suarez comes with a lot of sponsorship and with that comes some security and when you can go out and compete and you outrun a guy like Eric Jones on a weekly basis it opens the door for maybe a Christopher Bell to come in there and get a shot like Eric Jones is probably the guy that I look at that I said he's a big deal he's a good race car driver he's going to do good things well he better hurry up that's just my that's what I think and I'll tell you where I've been impressed with Daniel is he has survived

a lot of things. You look at him in the beginning part of the race, he'll be 20th. And he somehow chips away at it, doesn't make any mistakes. And next thing you know, he's running fifth, sixth into the race. And he's done a phenomenal job this year doing that.

Yeah. All right, the Xfinity series, the next two races, Pocono and Michigan, running a restrictor plate package. What type of race do you guys think we're going to see? I mean, I hope we see something similar to Charlotte, the All-Star,

but I'm not. quite sure we're going to see it at Pocono. I know it's got a long straightaway is, but the corners are still, oh man, they're, they're, they're a flat. I don't, you know, I don't think it's going to change a lot in turn three there. I still think you're going to need some air on the nose and the tunnel turn. You're not going to want to be right up behind somebody. It probably make restarts pretty interesting, though. I can say that when everybody's packed up like that. But I don't know, we'll see out. I hope it, I hope it enables more passing. you know, hoping enables things like that.

But Michigan will be, that might be crazy. Pogo's 10 wanes. I don't know what the hell of Wayne is. Ten lanes wide. So if we have an opportunity here for this thing to do what I think it could do, it may be crazy. Based on the simulator, they're cracking the throttle in one. They're running wide open over the tunnel. They're running wide open through turn three.

Here's what we don't know, though, yet what T. What T.J just said, how much air do they need on the nose to be able to do that. But regardless, I don't see the leader getting way out there like he used to could. The spoiler on these damn cars is, it's huge. It's a batwing. It looks like it's a foot and a half tall. It is a batwing. So the car from behind is going to be able to catch back up. So I think practice is going to tell us a little bit, but I don't think it's going to be anywhere near as good as what the actual race is going to be. I think it's going to be the best infinity pogano race ever. Yeah. I mean, I'm all, I'm excited for it. Should be good. Michigan, man. You said something about Michigan. What do you think? Michigan will be nuts. there the only thing that I wish I could change about that is I wish I could put the old asphalt back on Michigan because because then I know it would be really nuts.

I mean, if you look at the All-Star race, we had a guy go to the middle, we had a guy go to the top and we had a guy go to the bottom on the white flag lap coming to the check, you know, racing. There's only so many lanes at Michigan before you run out. And there's a lot of race track up there that nobody wants to use because it's... It's slick, and we can't use it. So I wish it was there to use because that would be ridiculous. Eight wide. It would be awesome.

I got four of them, nose of tail up against the wall. Here they come. What would you say like? Oh, man. You know, your middle, three up, six down. It'd be a plate race, yeah. It'd be like a plate race. I don't, you might even tandem.

I don't know. Hey, I hope so. It'd be fun. All right. Should NASCAR consider racing on a street course like IndyCar and F1? Man, I think so. You know, I look at how much. And here's the thing, you guys know this.

For the Indy 500, I have 300,000 people there. The town of Indy in the state of Indiana is rallying around that sporting event. And they're coming to support that event and that racetrack. When I see these street courses pop up, I see the same thing. You know, if we could go to Nashville or go to Baltimore or go to D.C. Long Beach. I can see that community rallying around. This is a special event.

This is a big deal for our guys to come out. And the thing is, we could go in and put this on and bring some new sponsors in and that, so those same markets. So I would be a huge fan of doing a street course. I'm all for it. I'm even, I'm all for even doubling up the weekend with an IndyCar or something too. Yeah. Why not? I mean, run two IndyCar.

run your IndyCar race on Saturday or whatever, run the Cup race on Sunday. Yeah. You know, IndyCar, for whatever reason, they would let us put our truck series with them. And our truck series would get way more ratings than they would get. But the truck series, they would make them do it the day before. So it's like IndyCar was the big show, which for their brand, man, I totally get it. But to TJ's point, like, I would love to, they would be awesome to put them together for one weekend.

And I don't care if it's your All-Star race. Like, just go do something like this to get some new synergy. around motorsports because it's a good story. You know, whether you do it with Indy car or you don't. It's still a good story. And if I live in South Carolina and you do this in Myrtle Beach, dude, I'm going. You know what I mean? Around the Pavilion.

What's a really, you know, famous street course? Long Beach is a famous one. Okay. St. Pete. I mean, you look at the knock on the street courses that sometimes they couldn't pass. But, you know, we've seen it with sports car racing on a street course. And NASCAR, of course, the physicality of it. I think it would be cool because, I mean, you'd see some guys getting into each other.

I think the street course would be fun because there wouldn't be as much elevation and banking change like the Glen. You go up behind, you follow somebody up through the S's the Glen, you get tight behind them. You know what I mean? Like there's still these, you still have some arrow things, some of these really fast places. You're not going to have that at Long Beach. You're going to have a guy that's either smoother, faster, better somehow, you know, especially with some tire fall. off. I want to see the guy save his rear tires a little bit and make a charge at the end and try to outbreak somebody. Anytime these guys get to a point where they need to outbreak each other,

it gets exciting. For me, man, if you tell me there's a Boston Grand Prix or a Los Angeles Grand Prix, and we're going to go out and we're going to run out there near Venice Beach, man. Like, I'm telling you. Fans are nuts. Well, they're nuts. Well, they're weird out there. Let's keep the Boston. I still think it's a cool idea. Yeah. You know what I mean? Somebody needs to get off their butt and figure out a way to make this happen. I agree. Yeah, for sure.

I'm a huge fan of this show, and I listen to it all the time, and I finally get to do this. The off-the-wall topic. Oh, yeah. All right. New iPhones, the reports say that soon you'll be able to unlock doors from your door, you know, in your house, hotel rooms, cars. What's the one thing on y'all's phone that you wish your iPhone could do? So let me get this straight. If you steal my phone, now you can steal my car and break in my house.

Pretty much. This is brilliant. Oh, yeah. This has got to be somebody in California came up with this idea. That's where Apple's base. Apple is based in California, Silicon Valley. The weirdest valley that we know of. What's the one thing, TJ, you wish your phone could do for you.

Mine has bought a 600-mile race. God, that was a long race. I mean, our phones already do way more than I ever thought they would do. You know, 15 years ago, we were paging each other with Nextails. Yeah Beeping codes Now you can pretty much get on any app On any restaurants app

And order your food before you get there Order your drinks whatever you want Go pick it up and not even wait in line and walk out I mean there is so much Right now you can get on your phone and order something And it'll be there tomorrow Or maybe today I literally can order something here

And if it's in Charlotte at the Amazon I get it the same day Yeah Like how crazy is that That's ridiculous from my phone But I don't like to fly. So if I could be tele- I don't like to fly. Like fly in the air on a plane. I hate it. I hope your plane doesn't do this. I feel like it does. And so if my phone could teleport me to the next track every week, that would be phenomenal because I get anxiety on airplanes, man. I hate it. It starts getting bumpy

and I start getting nervous. And I start sweating. It ain't good. Chest pains. I hate it. Like Fred Sanford. I wish I wish my phone could just make dinner. You know, be like, hey, man, I want, you know, I want some. Well, you get you dinner. I mean, what else? Yeah, no, I'm just talking about, like, you push it and it, like, you know, like back to the future. You remember that when that dude puts that pizza in there?

Oh, yeah. If it could do stuff, I could just be like, slide it over. What do you want for dinner? I'm going to slide this one into the box and it, psh, come back, walking, and it's already done. I can even remember that. Let's invent that. Like, it's already smart enough. It's got, it's got, like, a little section with all the, you know, food's already

in it. And then you'd be like, okay, I want, you know, I want the meatloaf, just slide it over into the oven thing. And then you walk into the kitchen and it's cooked. So we make a refrigerator that everything has to go in its own certain place. And then we have a delivery UPS kind of guy that comes out every week. And he puts your stuff where it goes. He stocks the eggs in there. Yeah, he puts everything where it goes in your refrigerator because he's already got this phone that lets him in your house anyway.

And then when you hit the button that you just said, that refrigerator automatically sends it to this oven. Bam, it's cooked. And there it is. It's already, I don't know. Yeah, whatever. We just invented it. Trademark it. Are we not going to do anything anymore?

No. I mean, pretty soon we're not going to do this podcast. So we're going to have an app for it. It's an app. Don't you just wish, don't you wish like we could do it? Come on, man. This stuff is too lazy. I didn't know I'm not here.

I didn't know this is in my phone talking. You know how there's a day for everything? Yeah. I don't know what today is, but it's something. Yeah, there's guys. Today is Tuesday. Today is Tuesday. It's national guy with a camouflage hat day.

Right. So we need a national. National no cell phone day. Dude, I would be totally for that. Yeah. National, no cell phone day. Like, leave them at home. Can't use them.

Can't use them. Can't text, can't call, can't email anybody, like, no cell phone. I've got this one. My national day, and I've thought about this all the time, you'd have to have the insurance companies and everything involved with this. It's called National Bump Day. Okay. Bumping cars.

Like, literally, it's legal to move somebody. It's legal to move somebody on the highway. Now, if you don't want to participate, here's where the. loophole is for the insurance, you are able to put a yellow sticker on all sides of your car, and if somebody hits you, yeah, they're going to have to pay for it because you designated that you're not participating in this program. I want to be able to go out there just one day a year and be able to turn somebody. I don't know what you brush your teeth with it, but I don't want any of it. God, do you're crazy. You're a big fan of like the purge.

No, I'm not a big fan. When it comes to motor vehicles, man, we're just driving along. And how many idiots are out there. A bunch. That you just want to like, you know, I don't want to lift. I just want to turn that person. Exactly. They're on their phones. So National No Phone Day.

Yeah. And National Bump Day will take care of all the idiots right there two days. Can't do them on the same day, though, because their phones out is what makes you want to bump them. So. You wouldn't want to bump anybody because everybody would have to be a different day. Everybody would just run the tape, though. Yeah, let them run the tape. But if you see some sucker without the tape, I'm turning them.

It'd be fun, dude. I mean, you're right. Are you from California? You've raced me. You've raced. How, the first time you move somebody, the first time you bump somebody or move somebody, was it not so freaking fun? Yeah, it was Frank Denny.

Of course it was fun. It was awesome. Matthew's from California. Oh, I'm walking out of here. You're done. All right, let's go to AskDBC. Producer Jason Schultz. You chose some great questions using hashtag DBC.

What do you got? All right. one from at Stu Crew 14 Ask what was a deal with the radio interference some teams had Russian hackers Yeah let's blame Russia we blame them for everything else There was a handful of cars that had this

So what happened Tell what happened what was going on? They just key up on your radio and start hollering stuff Really? Yeah Yeah Like for a minute It's kind of like some guy talking to another guy Like in the stands to me like

You know hey Jimmy You got me can you hear this And it's on our radio during the race. Mom, the meatloaf. Yes. Yeah. So, and apparently Hamlin said they were cussing out his driver. Yeah, they were going at his driver a little bit.

Yeah. Really? They said, Alex, shut the . Alex was talking and the other guy keyed up. Hey, Alex, shut the fuck up. What did he respond? Do we know? I mean, that's funny, kind of funny, but it's not really funny.

It's not funny. Because, listen, I mean, these are. Was it Kurt Busch? No, he was still on the race. Kerr would probably get into it with him. Kerr would probably set a time to do and meet the person and they would have met up. We have two radio companies in our sport that kind of provide us with the communication process. And I'm sure they're pulling their hair out right now.

Yeah. There's nothing you can do. How did that happen? Amateur. Amateur. I mean, they can get the frequencies for our, you know, they can get the frequencies for our. The frequencies are published, but there's some other coding that goes on to be able to participate in the conversation. Right.

The frequency is long, isn't it? If you're into that type of radio stuff, they know what they're doing. It's not rocket science. Do you think this was former crew guys? No, I don't. You think it's random fans. Yeah, because one of them would ring when they would key up on one of them. You know that whole.

Oh, yeah, yeah, it was like a phone ring. Yeah, and you have to have that taken out. So I don't think it was a crew guy. You know, Krooga, I just think we've had fans on our radio before the 88 back in the day. We had one on at Charlotte, and we had one come on there at Daytona hollering stuff on there. If you're sitting in the stands and doing this, in time, you will be caught. And you're as much of an idiot as the fence guy. I promise you, in time, you will be caught.

Yeah. Yeah, and it's not. I mean, it's funny sounding, but it's not really cool with the time because honestly, you could manipulate something that could get somebody hurt. could hurt some of it. Yeah, and that's not very cool at all. No, but I don't blame the Russian hackers like CNN would. Nope. I don't think Putin was chiming in on Alex Bowman's radio.

Yeah. Californiaans. Jay Cooper 770 asks, hey, he wants to do a spot on, spot off. That's pretty cool. Spot on, spot off. Kyle Bush is LeBron of NASCAR right now? No.

Why? Spot off. Is there two LeBron's because of Harvick or what? No, I just haven't seen Kyle drive lesser equipment and be very successful in it yet. So you're saying LeBron doesn't have the supporting cast and that's your argument? A lot of times he doesn't. I've seen LeBron, you know, Kyle is super talented. I mean, don't get me wrong there.

A guy can probably, he can get any type of car. You can put him in any type of car that's good and he's going to be competitive. But this goes back to when I watch Kyle start his Xfinity team, it wasn't very good at all. And he got out of that real quick. I think this guy's assessment is spot on. I mean, when I look at LeBron James, I see a guy that wins a lot of games. I see a guy that goes to the playoffs every year. He goes to the championship a lot of years, and he doesn't win a lot of championships.

Kyle Busch wins a lot of races, makes a lot of playoffs, gets toward the finals, and he doesn't finish the championship. He has one. You know, Jimmy has seven. So I think Jimmy Johnson is Michael Jordan, and Kyle Busch is LeBron James right now. But let's be honest, Kyle Busch has a lot of racing years left in his career. He can overcome and win a lot more championships.

But I think this Cooper guy is pretty damn smart with what he said here. I don't. That's because you don't like Kyle Bush. It's that got to do with anything. Knights, what the heck is it? Knight Key? Knight Key.

Night key. Night key asks. If you could trade lives with one person besides me for the entire day, who would it be and why? That's a good question. Jason, who are you going to do? Come on, Jason. You've had the most time to think about it because he wrote it. I should have thought about beforehand, but I didn't think about it.

Yeah, who's your person, Jason? Maybe Tom Brady, just to feel greatness for a whole day. Why do you want to be Tom? Because he's the greatest. Is it Giselle? Yeah. That's what I was. I was wondering if you were going to get to that point.

That's a perk. That's a perk. He has an ugg deal. A what? An ugg deal. He does have an uge. He gets free Ugg shoes. That alone is worth wanting to be Tom Brady.

He was in Monaco. I don't even know what an Ugg is. I'll bring you a pair. You don't have Oggs? You can't wear any of your foot stee. I got Uggs. Those aren't those stupid things with the holes in them, right? No.

That's Crocs. Oh, aren't those fuzzy boots that the girls wear? Ferry boots, man. I got slippers. I'm not going to wear a fur. I'm not going to wear a fur. I'm not going to wear them. I got slippers, man.

I bought them in South Beach. I got to hug slippers and they're awesome in the winter. They're the best. Yeah, they really are good. Tom Brady's a really good choice. Thank you. What would your choice be? Come on.

Michael Jackson. He's dead. I know, but they allow Michael Jackson. So living Michael Jackson. The Michael Jackson before he got his hair burnt in the Pepsi commercial. Okay. So pre-hairburn, pre-awkwardness and different looks? Best entertainer to ever live.

Really? In my opinion. Okay. The best, I'd say the best singer. Yeah, yeah. The best entertainer to ever lived. And to be able to walk into Wembley and know that I've got 100,000 people there to watch me dance and sing for two hours. Like, I want to know what that feeling's like.

It's got to be fun. I mean, people are literally passing out. Yeah. You're crying. Like, beetle style. Like he's got the ability to move that many people. Wow. That'd be cool.

To feel. Teach. Any pillars on amusement part And ranch I'm not going there I'm not T.J probably wants to be He wants to be like

Bruce Smith No that would be awesome though It'd be that big and huge And knock people over Who you want? I'd probably be the Apple guy Steve Jobs Because you know the technology

That they probably already have right now That we don't know they know yet He's dead too You know what I mean? We like dead people. I see dead people. You know what? Imagine what they've got that they don't, that they've already developed that they haven't put out yet.

That thing that's going to cook our food. Exactly. So I would already seen it and know it and probably be eating. Yeah. So I think it'd be cool to see the technical. Who you want to be Dylan? So you got to be somebody. Now is it, so it's one day?

It's just, yeah, one day. See, that's a tough thing because I'd like to be, I think I'd like to be AJ Ford. I mean, I wouldn't want to be him now, although he's still a badass. he just like fought off his second bout with like killer bees. Yeah. But I think I'd like to be like A.J. Foyt in the 60s wheeling like a open cockpit like champ car, you know, no roll cage and just, I mean, you want to talk about pure unadulterated American badassery.

There is nothing, nothing short of maybe Junior Johnson in this country and this history of our sport that compares to that. And I'm not a badass. Let's just be honest. I'm just a regular dude. I would love to have that. That would be like a suit to be AJ Foyt for a day back then. Yeah.

He's a badass. He's an American bad. He still is. I wouldn't mess with that guy. No. I mean, if you want to Google some really fun stuff, go back and look at his interviews, where he just flips out on people and he punches people and he cusses people. He does.

He don't care. He drops whatever on live TV. He has zero. You wrecked his car. He's coming to Victory Lane to see you. Yeah. Yeah. Look up AJ Foyt, Nazareth.

That's a good choice. Or Texas. So Jason can bring the hot chick. You can bring the badass. I can bring the song and dance. I might be there. Might not be. I might teleport in.

T.J. T.J.'s bringing the brain. He's going to use his phone technology to teleport in. Man, that was a good show, guys. Now we get to go to the picks. Let's go to DBC picks. You got a rant, T.J? I'd really, other than I liked the All-Star, way better than 600.

Oh, don't go there. Really? I did. All right, rant. It's not really a rant. Tell me why. The competitiveness. Okay.

For a 500 mile, 600 mile regular race, you would ride in that package. I really don't feel like we would race like that the entire time. The All-Star race, I think, was its own kind of self. But, yeah, I mean, there was, there was, we knew which car was probably going to win, minus any mistakes himself by the end of the lap 100. You still had a few cars that could have competed. Yeah, they were competing, but they weren't. And the racing throughout, I thought was excellent.

I thought the handling of the cars, I thought, was pretty, guys had their hands full, which I liked. I did like that part. But they don't on the All-Star. No. You want that? But they were also racing each other more. We didn't have a, I don't feel like we had a lot of race in the other night. So last week's show, you said that you wanted to do this package some.

but not everywhere. Have you changed your mind? Because now you're already saying you want to do it right now. So I'm just wondering if you changed your mind. Well, I didn't say I wanted to change you that. I didn't think it was that good of a race. Yeah.

I mean, I didn't. I thought it was a great race. It just wasn't any great racing for the lead. You know, like nobody could challenge. I'll agree with that. Behind that I thought there was some great. I mean, we raced our ass off. This just brought back everything.

This just brought forward everything that, you know, we kind of got had forgotten about already okay these you know these guys are struggling now these guys are then all of a sudden this race comes around I was like bam everything is back to normal right back to how it was you know there was dominance so yeah I mean I thought the race to be a 600 mile race to be a five hour long race that's a long time I thought it was a great race I just didn't see any great racing for the lead but I think that's because cow bush and his team did that good of a job I really do I mean He was fast.

Let me ask you a question. We went all the way over here to the left and tried this package. This is where we were. We went all the way to the left to try this package. How come we can never go all the way to the right on a package? Yeah, I know. That's what I'm wondering. I'd love to see 400 more horsepower.

I'd like to see more horsepower, less down force, less tread width on a tire. These cars don't have to stop the make the corner anymore. We're going so fast on entry, so fast through the... center. I agree with you. Let's try it all the way of the right, see what the product is. And I don't know why they don't do that. I'd like to see, you know, us go 210 miles an hour at Charlotte down straightaway because you can't go that fast around the corner. You know what I mean? And if they took away tread width of a tire or they changed some things aerodynamically, took away spoiler, let them run whatever angle, whatever. I don't understand, you know, and you guys have a better grasp on this

than me because you're up up there and you're entrenched in this deal. But why can't we go the opposite direction and try it. I think it's just just speed. I mean, you get going so fast. I mean, you know, before when you think of this, okay, you think they're going fast and they were hitting 200. Now they're hitting well above that,

you know, and they, I think it just opens the door to more safety risks. I think you're at, you've got to have, you're looking for a more durable tire. I think you're going to, I think you're going to start running into issues like, okay, I don't know if Goodyear's going to have a tire that's ready to handle that all the time, which I'm not sure.

Fontana is one of the best races of the year. Our speeds down the front stretch are over 200 miles an hour. Got a stop to make the corner. Yeah. And it puts on a good show. Yeah. I'd like to see more of that. There's also your fastest lap of Fontana is by far your first lap. If you don't get that in by far, and that means the tires are wearing out. Like, and that's, the biggest thing to me is tire fall off. Like, you have to have some. But it seems like we're not accomplishing that. It seems like we're going in a different direction. It wasn't it just two, three years ago that we were trying to take downforce away from these cars?

And now we're putting grips and gripping racetracks and downforce backing them. I don't get it. Yeah. Huh. Well, they're gripping the repave stuff. You know what I mean? So, and I will say that Charlotte did a damn good job. They worked hard and did a good job.

Charlotte did or not. That's the best putting the grip stuff down job that I've seen done yet. Yes. How they applied it. It's the best race we've seen there since they repaved it and screwed it up. You had multiple grooves all weekend every single race. This guy's not from California. He's got on a veteran hat, NRA shirt.

Those are my people right there. Let's do DBC's picks. TBC picks. T.J. is officially behind again. T.J. That's on real. I've won four of the last five. Is that right?

He's on a streak. Yeah, four of the last five, five of the last six if you count the All-Star Race. T.J. Come on, man. You better get it going here, dude. Get up in your high horsewoman. It all started up. Get up your high horse now.

I've lost. Get up your high horse woman. That is not Michael Jackson. I'm trying to get him fired up over here. Do you see the names that I've lost with? Yep. I lost a Harvick. I lost with Keselowski.

I lost with Lars and I lost. lost with Hamlin. Sucks to suck. No, I won with Hamlin. Dang. And then, of course, I picked Jimmy. He finished his fifth. Where's Brad finished?

Fourth. Of course. Why wouldn't he? Brad had probably the best comeback of the race. The first half of the race, he wasn't that good. And all of a sudden, there he was. Hey, tell me about your, while you're thinking about who you're going to pick. Tell me about that move you made when you were coming on new tires and you were very

aggressive and you probably passed seven or eight cars from start, finish to the back stretch. You dove under, I think, Ricky Stenhouse, getting into three, and he ran you on the apron, and then Jimmy got wrecked in front of you, and then you still managed to miss the wreck, and then you got hitting the butt. That was a lot going on for a spotter in one lap. Yeah, that was a... How'd you do that? Because it's like to me, you did good, just the guy right behind you didn't do good. Yeah. It hit you in the butt. The 20. Oh, yeah. And it messed up some arrow stuff pretty bad.

Yeah, that was a... I saw James. me spinning and honestly I really thought Ricky would give more room than what he did he didn't have any reason to be that low there wasn't really anybody pressuring him down that low like in the All-Star race I see how that wreck happened there was three guys going for

the same spot sure Ricky there was nobody outside you really on you tight you had plenty of room you just wanted to be that way right big long really long race guy with new tires you probably know what's getting ready to happen which I'm kind of glad to happen because it got us checked up enough right

It slowed us down a little bit more than normal, which probably allowed us to get slowed down enough. I saw Jimmy spinning. I knew he was going to come down. I saw him standing in a throttle. So I kept telling Joey, you know, speed up. If you're going to go to any of the speed, up, speed up. And then I knew he wasn't going to go underneath him at that point.

So then we get hit from behind right as we're missing him. And it kind of gets us turned and stuff. And then I thought we were going to hit him when we're sliding. It was pretty exciting. That was a lot going on from the time you took the green. until you missed the wreck and then you got wrecked and you were three wide, you were on the apron. Like, I'm watching it because we're on old tires. And you have to be really aware of who's on new tires because of the closing rate,

especially in those first couple laps. So I'm watching it all go down. I'm like, oh, hold up. Hold on wrecking. Oh, really good. But it's all behind me, which is the most fun thing as a spotter you can ever say is spin behind you. Yeah. We're good.

But I was watching all that go down. I was like, man, TJ's busy right here. Yeah, it was pretty busy time. Yeah. I'll take Blaney. Blaney. Hey, wasn't he good there last year? He won this race year ago.

Did he win on field mileage? Yeah. Yeah, he's not going to do that again this year. Although he will have better speed. He will be fast. I'm going to match your Blaney with his buddy and a guy who needs to win more than arguably anybody in the sport, Chase Elliott. Wow.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So you're saying it's going to be a bow tie, man. I'm going to go with Chase Elliott. I think we're really running out of people with the problem, man. That is. We're used to know.

run out of people. We, the sport needs, I mean, you know, you look at our sport and you say, I don't know in any of the sport that the most popular athlete or team would not be winning. And in NASCAR, because of the legacy of the Bill Elliott name and our fan base respects the history of the sport, our most popular guy has never won a cup race. Like in no other sport. It's been so close. And no other sport would you see that.

And we need him to pop off some wins. So if Clint Boyer can't win this weekend, I hope Chase Elliott does to beat TJ and DBC picks. Yeah, wow. I'm pretty confident. Our crew chief from up there. Buga is, and he wants a hometown win, so I feel like

Booga's going to bring the best. You know how you always hear they're bringing the best stuff. You know, and he's definitely up on it. And you go, why don't you bring your best stuff everywhere? Well, you do. But there are times where you put it in, just like anything else. You put in a little bit extra. You go a little bit further with this part of the car. You know, you

push this issue in tech a little bit more. Like there are times where I guys do it. wanting to win in Indianapolis years ago. I mean, it's just... So what you're saying is your car chief might get a vacation. He's actually just coming back this week. Go back on vacation. Turn around, buddy.

See you later. He had two weeks off, right? So he worked the All-Star because it was a non-points event. They let him work. But then he got off the Coke 600. And, I mean, look, let's... It's not a bad one to be off. If you're going to get suspended...

I mean... If you're going to get suspended, the Coke 600 is not a bad one to be suspended. Because it, and I know we're probably not supposed to say this, but when a crew chief gets suspended, he still goes to the track-ish area. Yeah. When a car chief gets suspended, he goes to fish, right? He does not have to come to the track. He's going to house.

Yeah, he's awful. So the Coke 600 probably isn't a bad one. If you got to get jacked up, that's probably the one I'd pick. What if they start suspending spotters? He's like sweet. I bet we wouldn't get paid if we got suspended. No, I'm saying, like, if the car didn't do something, then it said, look, if they picked a random guy off the crew.

Do you mean I pulled them out of a hat? Yeah. Just random. Pull this guy out. This week, your spotter. It's not going. Damn. No.

God, no. That'd be interesting. There are some drivers that wouldn't care. I'll be very honest with you. And I would say their names, but I'm not going to. But there are some drivers that wouldn't care. And I've spotted for one of those kind of guys, two of those kind of guys.

But there are some drivers who would really care. And I'm spotting for those guys now. You know, they don't want random people on the radio. I mean, I've had guys that have had to do non-companion races or guys that have had to fill in when I've had, you know, not me personally having a baby, but my family having a baby. So when that happens, man, you'll get the call after the race going, hey, man, that guy can't see.

Don't get him again if you ever have something pop up. But there's some guys that wouldn't care. But I think my guys would care, you know. Yeah, I don't, I think it would be a pretty significant change. Imagine right before Daytona, night race. Carveld tech and they go, hey, your spotters out. Because, I mean,

there's only 40 of us in the world that do this on some days. And there's an incredible skill when it comes to the plate spotting. There's only 40 of us that can do this. And when you say one of them in here, like, you know, there are guys like Mike Dillon that are still at the racetrack,

Jeff Dickerson, that are still at the racetrack, that have done it. But I'll tell you what, man, the game changes. You got to be up on video. It changes on an annual basis. So to just plug a guy in and say,

good luck like it would be an acclamation period that's for sure our uh the spotting game's changing quite a bit here i think now um i actually do way more talking than i ever done before um joey likes tons of info and it don't matter if he's in the corner if he's in the straightaway he he likes to know where people are um and del jr would have told you to shut up last year if you talked Holy cow. Yeah. Like 75 times. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. He likes a ton of info. Clint's the same way. He wants a ton of info all the time. He wants to know how far a guy is back. The moment he changes lanes, what lane he's running in the corner. If it's gaining ground, he wants to know right then.

And I'm like, dude, this is new to me. You know, I'm not used to having to tell somebody. um well you're talking every lap you're not getting a lap off and it took me a while to get used to this um because i normally was like okay he's in the corner just going to be quiet right now yeah joe's like yeah he's like just tell me keep telling me more more more more like i'm like jesus and you're like thank goodness i got that big pay raise to come over here they got i was going to work this i got all them batteries yeah so it's same thing for clint man when i got there uh he was like more and more and i was like man i can't talk this much this is insane but it's just that it's a

thing. You know, that younger guy is used to having a spotter, used to have an information. Dale Jr., probably, I mean, literally when I got here, Matthew, you'll appreciate this. I was not a spotter yet. I was a PR guy. Yeah. Eddie would remember that. And we were talking about different things about the sport.

And a guy named Chuck Joyce, and I'm not taking a shot at Chuck when I finish this story, but Chuck Joyce flew in and spotted for Elliott on race day only. He had done Morgan Shepard before Elliott got there. He had done Michael Waltrip in that car before Elliott got there. and, you know, I was just talking to him about the sport in general because I'm a new guy here. I'm 22, 23 years old trying to figure out what's going on. And he pretty much, when he got to the spotter, he's like, yeah, we pretty much just give a radio to the dumbest guy here and send him up there to roof and tell him to hang out for four hours. That mentality changed a lot.

Oh, yeah. During my career, you know, and it was two or three years before I made my way to the roof. And I was part, and I'm not saying I was the reason, but I was part of the movement of giving them more useful information to help them. And T.J. come in kind of as that was going on, but that's no longer. When I see a guy, I mean, I saw a spotter this weekend get pulled. And another spotter came up that had spotted races before. He got pulled because he wasn't given information. I've seen guys, we see it every year at Daytona.

You'll get there. It'll be a new spotter with a new driver. And they'll make a change before the Daytona 500, you know, because that driver isn't getting what he wants. So I think, you know, T.J. and I've been part of the game-changing process on that. There's a lot. There's a, there's, it's more, you don't just send, you don't just show up there anymore and start spotting. Like you don't just show up anymore and now you're more, way more involved.

So, but anyway, it's been fun. It's my people longest show ever. Is it? Well, you got a lot of editing to do. Yeah. But, uh, awesome show guys. And, uh, thanks for having me, uh, hosting it. Casey's off this weekend.

And next time can you wear a wig and some really short shorts and, uh, kind of maybe I could never. Casey Hames. I mean, I've got some, I've got some, I've got some. You got to shave your legs. No, I can't look at that. Yeah.

So I'll never be a Casey. Oh, man. That's true. Well, but great show, guys. I got to thank one main financial, of course, Exalta Studios, and great to be a part of it. And you guys have a good week. Thanks. Thanks.

Off to Pocono, man. I love us. I used to not like to go up here when I was younger. Heart-shaped bathtubs. Yeah, you want to go hang out one. I want the picture of you, too, in heart-shaped bathtub. Let's hang out one together. Where do you stay?

If your feet touch me in that heart-shaped bathtub, I'm telling you there. be a fight. What's wrong with that? You can do anything else. Just don't touch me with your feet. Oh, you don't like feet. You got a feet thing? I'm out.

We're going. See y'all. Stop. Holly. You've been listening to Door Bumper Clear, brought to you by One Main. For updates on Elliot Sadler and the number one junior motorsports team, go to One Mainracing.com. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Mo.