Door Bumper Clear - 106 - Let's Go to Prison!

Episode Date: July 9, 2018

A wild Daytona left the gang plenty to cover including the carnage from Saturday night, Ricky Stenhouse Jr.’s performance, Erik Jones’ first career win, NASCAR’s yellow line call on Justin Haley, a lack of NASCAR star power, Brett’s prison resort and more. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Outside, door, bumper, clear the 18th. Benzcar ahead here in a long time. You're going to do it. You're going to win it. Right with you. You're clear. Check the flag. You win.

Oh, yeah! Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Major. Spot of the 22-cup car. Joining me, as usual. Why are you looking at that sheet to say that? You forgot? Well, I was trying to figure out where to throw in the...

I was trying to figure out where to throw in case. He said Mike Davis had a big head before the show. Yeah. Well, I just asked you wore this headset because they have a big head, whoever it was. I mean, I'm small. I'm going to stop talking now. I'm really sorry, Mike. So what headset are you on?

Four. Four. So whoever wears the number four headset, the other shows? Who was the guest last week? Maybe Dillner. Dillner's got a big head. Who was the guest last week? Was it, Mike?

I'm really sorry, Mike. Mike, where's four? Who was the guest? You had a guest. No, they haven't guessed. No, they, yeah, they did. We had a guest. They had, uh, are you arguing with the,

pretty serious job. I thought they had Denny. That was two weeks ago. Was it? Brett Griffin, Spotter, moving along. Jesus, we're going to say, and argue by guests. Moving along, uh, triple duty this week. Got all three of my guys, Clint Elliott, if he hadn't fired me yet.

And, uh, Maya Snyder, be a fun weekend. Triple duties at Kentucky. Nothing better. Are you doing anything other than Cup Car this weekend? Truck. Yeah, no, exfinity. No. Lucky you.

I know. At least his night races. Um, and I'm PC, by the way. Thanks for the introduction, guys. Oh, we've got to see you there. Well, you started talking. You could introduce stuff then. Lulu Lemon pants on.

Yeah. They're cozy. Yeah. I'd never heard of Lulu Lemon. Really? Mm-mm. No, I guess it's a thing. I never heard of getting my fields to a last few.

Oh, yeah. I still haven't really figured that out. You should start using that as a phrase. He'd probably hit Mike Davis right in the fields. Like I understand it, but I still don't get it. Like, who can't who started that? What? To get in my feels.

Probably a 13-year-old. Yeah, probably. Didn't Drake sing a song or something? I'm sure it came. So a song did it? That was probably before Drake. We had Carson back on to explain that. I have no clue, to be honest.

I've never been more puzzled. Probably a 13-year-old YouTuber. She's sitting here going, oh, got to get in my fields. And I'm thinking, your feels, you're pointing at your chest. My man. You're not really in my fields, but you're on my cable. Sorry. Get it off the cable.

All right, so how is it? Oh, all right. So how was Daytona guys? I heard a shooting in Daytona. What? Yeah. So the Xfinity race... Are you excited about this?

The Xfinity Race ends. Oh, we got pictures. Did they miss you? The Xfinity race ends. We all go to the Oyster Pub. It's probably 11, 1115 by the time we all get back, get showered, get there. Don't have to be at the track next date until 5.30 or whatever. So we go in, we sit down, we have a beer, have some oysters, have some wings, have some shrimp.

About 1 o'clock. Pop, pop, pop, pop. Pop, I was like, man, that sounded a lot like a gunshot got outside of me. He goes, there's like 10 spotters. Nah, that's fireworks. Fireworks. That ain't no fireworks, buddy. So in comes this woman saying somebody's been shot.

Well, guess what we all do? We all get on and go outside and look. And we get outside and there's two guys laying there. And both of them are shot and both of them are bleeding. And I'm like, hey, I'm going back inside. And I go back inside. The cops show up. We go back outside again.

And then by now you're like, it's time to leave this whole area. And you had to walk through. where they were pretty much to leave. So another spotter was popping pictures of it. One of the spotters, what I'm not going to say his name, I literally thought he was going to go over there and start just stuff in the sky's wounds

to make it stop bleeding. I'm like, what are you doing? Now I have to know who this is. It was crazy, though. I mean, I've never been in any area where anything other than fights break out. You know, we all went to college where people get in fights.

Can't say that anymore. So apparently, a fight broke out. People started jumping. jumping in, and whoever shot both guys that were fighting each other. So what a great friend to have. He's coming to help you, and he shot you. Maybe it was just an innocent guy. The last report that I read on the internet yesterday was that they both made it through

surgery. They were looking for a guy that fled in a white Kia. Well, that really nerds it down. Yeah. Well, that strip, because your oyster pub, isn't there like razzles? That's what came out of it. And then there's like a strip club, like right next to it. But Razzles is where the fight came out of was a bank club.

What's that got to do with anything? People don't fight in shoe shows Well, the area is just, I mean, I've been there before. I've never seen a fight in a shoe show, have you? In a what? Shoe show. I've never been to one, but I haven't. You didn't listen to last year's episode?

Do you know why we call it a shoe show? No. Because they're only wearing shoes. Got it. So we don't really say strip club. I've never seen a fight. I've never seen a fight in those, but I've never been to any. In the shoe show?

Or strip clubs Well Whole new level So apparently they've got into a Tiff And Razzles They got in a fight outside And then they both got shot by their buddy And Razzles is not the shoe show

No Rouse is just a club Yeah I'm too old for clubs These days Anyway that's what my Daytona was like Other than the racing Yeah how was the racing

It was good Racing was good I don't know what lap that happened on but it's pretty early. So you didn't have an Exfinity car? No. So you spotted like eight laps and went home? Well, I had about 15 on to whatever we did in the race, and that's about it.

Before we dive into the show, to be just very honest with you, and Clint brought this to my attention, it's somewhat painful to know that we go down there and work for three days. You know, the first two days you run a grand total of 10 laps by the time. you do the practice thing, which nobody wants to practice, and we'll tear their car up, qualifying thing. You know, you go out there and run two laps. But the amount of time and effort that it's put into these cars

to go down there and just completely destroy them, oh, and looking at the All-Star package that all these guys have been talking about, debating about, it just makes me say even more, like, we can't do that every week. I mean, we physically and financially, Penske lost every single race car. Stuart Haas lost every single race car. So now Ford is going to have to, you know, open up all this one tunnel time for us to build new plate cars. Like, I just want fans to realize I love that style of racing. TJ loves that style of racing.

We can't do it every week. But I can't imagine how exhausting those guys have to feel knowing that they literally just lost their whole fleet of plate cars. You know, it's insane. It's producer Josh. He needs to be a guest sometimes. That's for a segment. It is 935. He's just right on time.

Welcome to work. Straight on time. Yeah. So anyway, I just won't fans realize, man. It's crazy, right? It's been like that. It was even worse. Five, six years ago, whenever you go down there and test, you know, for like the 500 or,

you get on there and test for three days straight. You're three days straight of qualifying runs. And they worked on these cars even more, like harder, not that they don't now, but there was even more time on one car back then to still to go down there and have all that time into the car. And to get down there and get wrecked like that, like, that's what, you know, I think it bothers all of us. You know, that's why a lot of us sit in the industry and spotter-wise, driver-wise, that's crew-wise. That's why you get upset.

You got all this time and effort into these cars. And for somebody to, you know, for somebody to make a careless decision, like, in my opinion, what was made. Which one? Yeah. So, did you see Kurt Busier's tweet? Yeah. The hashtag Stenhouse DD. Stenhouse demolition derby

He was blasted There were a lot of people Wood Brothers was like Well Stenhouse is going to win this race One way or another How about Rouse saying Has blocked notification He muted notifications

Yeah Jackson There was some that I can't tell you I got memes of yesterday Oh yeah He said to few Was that not hysterical Yeah I feel so bad for me

I honestly thought Dale Jr. Tweeted something very summed it up Did you see what he said No what he said Like he said really felt really bad You know

For Ricky Yeah well he said I forget, it was like basically he knows he regrets it and has, you know, has to learn from it and has probably, which ones he regret? I don't know. I'm not sure. All of the above. I mean, but there has to be some sort of like, I highly doubt he intentionally tried to do certain things that it was just a moment maybe. But here's the deal that we all, we all see it. We know it. We could have told you what we thought going on this weekend. That would have been one of our pit. We all predicted this to kind of happen. You could see it building over the last a handful of plate races. Some success was had. Which adds more pressure. Which adds more pressure.

Probably doesn't have a great shot at a mile and a half win or something like that. So that's even more pressure. Gets to this place and has quite a bit of confidence, which is fine. But, you know, it's not, it's kind of, you just can't go out there

in bowling ball. You can't go out there. there and do that and it showed at the Daytona 500 in the qualifying race like uh i think they had a little problem with the 24 for no reason at a point in time uh got to a guy in the back who missed the detona 500 big as he got for what reason was that um and now you know there's just a lot of and that accident could have happened to anybody the first big one could have happened to really anybody the way that transpired the way it popped up um just the way you know the block happened so quick. He was so close to the two car. That could have been anybody. That could have been his car,

my car, and as quick as he had to check up, it was, uh, could have been anybody there. But, you know, as I'm getting to the airport, I see another one and I'm like, that's, that's pretty so uncalled for. Like, what, like, what is, like, there's no reason to hit somebody in a left rear quarter pan on the middle of the corner like that to side drafting. I'm like, whoa, what's going? What are you doing? So, um, but, um, But there were a lot of, I think. Two spotters were, they weren't hugging it out after that. They were screaming at each other.

Oh, yeah. Which two? I don't think I've ever heard anybody scream as loud as they were screaming. The 18? 18 and the 17. Really? Screaming. They were with me the night before, too, and they heard the shooting.

Oh. Yeah. Wow. So they're buddies. I mean, it's not like they don't like each other. Yeah. They're two of the bigger guys in racing in terms of, they go to every single race they can go to. Like, we'll work all day, 10-hour day.

Yeah. And there's a race two hours away. Those guys will drive to the race to watch a race. You know? Yeah. They're both great dudes, but they had a difference in opinion on kind of what happened. And they're screaming at each other. I told them to calm down and take a deep breath.

What was said? You being the mediator? Well, I couldn't really hear because they were both screaming. And I had those big headphones on. But I just told them to take a deep breath, calm down. And then I actually said, Herm, if you cause one more wreck, I think I have a chance to win. Because my car, my car that point was torn up. You guys did have a good shot.

And Herman put a smile. face and hopefully that cheered him up. He felt better. I love both those guys. And they're not driving the cars either though, but. It's not like Herm's like, wreck him. But it's one place that spotters have a big influence on it. So you feel like...

Well, the problem is, and it's because we've been asked to do this, is we have to communicate the gap in front of the car in front of ours. So in Ricky's situation, you know, he's already really close to the two. The two is really close to the 24. The 24 is making a really late. block. The 24 spotter tabs had a lot of success at plate tracks. We know he knows how to spot those things. But when you look at how it all played out, like the 17 and the guy behind the 17th hitting him, like, that's why we have to give them the gap in front of the car in front

of them. And I'll be honest with it, it's exhausting. And I'm not fussing about our job, but it just, you're having to watch behind, try to find the run, look in front, try not to run over that guy, and then turn around to look and say, do we need to change lanes to get more momentum. So it's just changed it. You can't look at three things at once. I don't care how good you are. And then when you're looking out back, you can't look out front. And when you're in the front like that, you really feel like

you got to look out back more. So it's just a lot for a spotter to manage. And I do think that probably William, Brad and Stenhouse all played a small role in ultimately that particular act. Because William Block Lake, Brad led him in. He didn't have to. He could have said, hey dude,

I'm done. I'm not lifting. When he lifted, then it was, oh, God, here we have. Yeah, I mean, if anything, Brad's the least of blame I, but though, I mean, he was just making a move. He's making a move to, you know, try to attempt to pass. And he drives for Penskeen, you got to say that. Well, I mean, he did the right, I think he did the right thing by lifting. I mean, you can't run over a guy like that at that point in a race.

I'd be pretty disappointed. But it's also hard not to because you run the risk of getting run over yourself. And that's what happens. Yeah. I mean, I guess you should look in the mirror and see that. And I probably wouldn't lift either at that point. I mean, you're going to get probably hit. I want to know what your take was on on the whole Justin Haley deal, especially with your finish.

We're just going spot on, spot off looks like. Oh, sorry. We're stealing all the topics. No, it's not really. Let's just go to spot on, spot off. Yeah, sure, let's do it. All right. So we just basically just covered this.

Now we just need to hit the winner part of it. Yeah. Should I just skip to it? So what about Eric Jones winning? Yeah. Big success or? Is it, I mean... TJ, our new co-host here?

Well, you're failing. I was just asking about the finish with him. He said if Elliot hadn't fired him yet, I want to know more. Yeah. She was doing her job. Rude. No. You made the producer mad.

You said you're stealing on the spot-on, spot-off topics. I didn't realize. I'm sorry. I missed it. Okay. Spot-on, spot-off. T.J. Eric Jones wins Crashfield plate race. Uh, I mean, spot-off.

Someone's got to win. I mean, there's a winner. But. How many last to the lead before that? I'll look it up. I don't think it's many. Yeah. I don't think it's many.

Single digits. Yeah. So, I don't know, man. It's, I looked at the, so I went back and looked at the, I looked at the restart, and I looked at the cars up there, and I was like, one lap. Last lap. That's what I thought you were going to say. Guess what happened in February?

How many laps did Austin? The league. Probably just one. He didn't go at a quarter mile. Yeah. I don't know. It doesn't prove anything to me that you're, this doesn't put you any higher on the plate racer scale to me. It doesn't do anything like that.

But he survived the race, drove a good race. Congrats to him and, you know, Corelli, Spotter. They got it done. So a lot of these things, they're not the fastest car. They're not the guy that makes the best moves. It was just survival. This one turned into a survival race, and he won that race. So I'm spot on for anybody who gets their first win.

You know, it's obviously a big deal for him, his team, his company. Here's a guy that kind of kicked Matt Kinzeth to the curb, you know, and when you bring in a guy to replace Matt Kenseth, he better win races. So it's fortunate for them guys that that's the case. He's winning races. I'm with TJ, though, you know, if all the Stewart-Hoss cars are out there, all the Penske cars are out there, you know, he didn't have to beat a lot of fast cars. It really reminds me of the Daytona 500.

that David Reagan gave away when he didn't have to, he was sitting there, and all he had to do was take the green and stay in line to start, finish. He was the best car in that six UPS car by a lot, and he changed lanes too soon, and he was put to the back of the field. And then it was only Trevor Bain and Carl Edwards left up there to win the Daytona 500. Trevor Bain came through with a win, made a great move to do that. But I think what we're seeing in these plate races at Daytona for whatever reason,

maybe because it's so narrow is survive, survive, survive, and you can win. And I was pulling emotionally and personally pulling after everybody had wrecked out. I was really wanting to see Casey Kane win that race for a lot of reasons. I'm friends with a spotter, Doug. I actually walked down there and gave him some advice based on what I've seen in the past 20 years watching plate races. And I wanted to see those guys win because I knew they weren't in a car. They weren't in a car as good as Eric Jones. I mean, you can say, what you want to say, I'm telling you right now.

It hadn't been to wind tunnel as much. Probably didn't have as much horsepower. Casey's obviously been a great plate racer. That's the guy I was personally pulling forward. It's a great for the sport. I mean, I looked on Twitter. I think the guy has like 50,000 followers. So I hope that at least doubles from a plate win.

Maybe I was looking at the wrong, Eric Jones. I don't know. I don't know. Like 2014 Daytona 500, we're coming to a greenway checker in our mirror, Jeff Gordon, Kyle Busch, Brad, Danny, you're like, man, this is stacked. Serious business right here. It just didn't have that feel to me. Like, I'm looking back to her like, dang, I wish I was up there.

Yeah. We could have dominated that thing. But, you know, congratulations to, you know, him and Corelli the spotter on their first win. Yeah, it's cool. He's been running good lately, too. He's had a chance to win Bristol last year. But the last month, the last month he's been running, I think he's run top seven or eight. If he's been right in that area, he's been chipping away at it.

Yeah, I agree. Kislauski says he needs to wreck more people to teach them not to throw. bad blocks, Brett, spot on, spot off. Man, Tony Stewart said he was sick of people blocking him, and he started running over him. Unfortunately, in NASCAR, for competitors, it's part of the game. Fortunately, for fans, it is part of the game. You know, when you look at F1, they'll penalize you for blocking. They'll put you to the rear.

I think it's great entertainment for our fans. I think it adds a very unique element. I think it's what really makes stock car racing more exciting than a lot of other forms of racing. And I think these guys just have to figure it out. I mean, the thing is, if Brad does do this, people won't block him because they won't want to run the risk. They know who they can block and who they can't block.

I mean, I've seen a lot of nice guys in the sport that can't win races because they're too nice. I mean, when I watch, and I'm not going to call out anybody, but there's a lot of drivers in this series that have won a lot of races that are very, very selfish people. They only worry about themselves. They only worry about themselves 99% of the time. and they're always take, take, take, take, take, and they want you to give to help them take. So it seems like a lot of times those are the guys that win the most races around here for some reason.

Yeah, I don't, I think that was, I think it's a little early in the race to probably drive through somebody that's blocking like that, especially somebody Williams probably learning still a little bit up there. I think it's a little early for that, but like, I mean, if you feel like you're getting blocked a lot and taking a advantage of. There's one way to fix it. Yeah. I think Brad's been wrecking a lot more than he's used to reckon at these plate tracks too. I mean, here's a guy that's very, very, very good at plate racing. Obviously, yeah, some really good equipment at plate tracks and probably really frustrated that he can't even get a chance to finish these races. I'm guessing.

I mean, it builds up when you, this point of the year. I wouldn't, I'm not sure I would have paid him not to have a win yet. No, definitely not. So it's probably, and it gets frustrating at times, but, you know, when you do cut somebody a break and then you get run over, I can see I would really make him mad really quick. I mean, obviously the guy in the back shows he's not going to, he's not lifting. We knew that anyway. You got three winners this year that have won one race and it's all plate races.

Everybody else has won multiple races. I don't recall this happening this far into a season in terms of the way the winds are being distributed. It's kind of weird. It's interesting to see what happens at Kentucky. NASCAR's yellow line call on Justin Haley coming to the finish of the Xfinity race. Spot on, spot off. T.J. Man, I'm going spot on.

You make a roll. You stick with it. I mean, the guy, there's three things that go with the yellow line roll. Were you forced? Did you go, you know, did you go below it? Did you advance your position? And that move checked all the boxes, you know,

or that he wasn't forced, had plenty of room. Made a great move. I mean, awesome. I mean, yeah. I mean, he made a, he made a, he made a, he made a, and I wish, I wish for his sake, just that he didn't drive down there because he didn't need to, you know, that it was awesome. I mean, I thought great move. You should have won the race.

You were going to do it anyway without the L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-I. You know, you didn't need that, you didn't need that advantage. That advantage didn't even really help you, but the problem is if you don't penalize it now, what happens if that becomes, a huge mistake if you don't penalize it. He clearly drove below it. You know, his interview after the race, he was like, I wish to tell us how far you can go below a lot.

Well, you can't. You know, you can't go down there. So I'm with, I think NASCAR nailed it on it. You know, look, they didn't want to do it. I'm sure they didn't want to do it. No, they don't want to do it. They don't want to do it. But if you don't, that it's a huge can of worms.

And everyone, you know, everyone wanted to feel good win with, you know, Justin Haley making the big move. but he messed up. He made the mistake, and that's it. TJ hit all the points. I think the biggest struggle for drivers is if you let him get away with this, then you wonder at what point in the race is, are they going to let it fly? Is it one to go? Is it two to go? Is it three to go? When can we do it and get away with it? This guy broke the rule. We all know the rule. There's an invisible plane there. If you break it and do those things, TJ said, you're out of bounds. And if you're out of bounds,

it's not a catch. So, like, man, the saddest part was he didn't need to even get closely, remotely below the yellow line. All he had to do was just go, I think he's so caught up in truck racing, and those guys are so big on side drafting, and they can slow your momentum so much that he was worried Elliot was going to pull back down and side draft him. But he had such a run, it really wouldn't have mattered. I mean, he had such a run. He cleared both those cars. Yeah, he was gone.

You know, I saw the gap on the top lane. It was three car lengths from. Larson to Haley coming out of four. We had kind of lost Blaine. Not literally lost him, but he was not right up our butt pushing hard. So I knew that outside line was going to come back. And I thought when they got there,

it would get to Larson and just shoot the whole top road by us, and we were going to be dead in the water and run third or fourth. And that kid got there. I had no idea he was clear. And holy cow, when he hung that left, I was like, oh, God, he's going to hit me in the right rear and I'm going to head on in the wall and I'm taking out the leader. Oh, God, he's clear.

Oh, God, he went below the yellow line. Like all these things are playing out in Millis. seconds and I was blown away that that kid made that move. Yeah, that was a heck of a move, man. Everything happened at the right time for him to have that move, and he did everything right to get to where he needed to do to win the race, except for as soon as he turned inside Elliot, Elliot moved about a foot to the left, and that's all Elliot moved, and he reacted off that.

You could see Elliot moving. He's just like, he goes down a little further. It's like he thought Elliot was going to come down. Yeah. But you're already there, man. I mean, you have the, you were going to clear him. There's no way you reside rath and assowing it down. I'm sure there's a lot of debate about the line and whether it needs to be there or not be there.

I just want to tell you, you know, as a fan of the sport and any sport, I don't want to see the line as a fan. Man, I'm all for it. When you throw the green, I want you to do all you can do until the checker flag to try to advance your position, win the race and put on a show. As a competitor, and obviously I live as a competitor in this sport currently, I'm not a fan. I love the rule. And I love the rule because when people go below that yellow line, it can come. create a lot of really dangerous situations for guys that we need to be a part of our sport. Guys, we need to keep healthy.

Crew guys that don't need to be working 100 more hours to fix race cars. So I know that everybody listening, I'm on your side if I'm not in this sport. But as a guy in this sport, please keep the line. Please keep the rule. And it's to prevent things like what happened to Austin Dillon at Daytona few years ago. I mean, I've seen Tony Stewart shoot down on the apron and be 45 degrees sideways and somehow save it, come up on the banking, and nobody touch him. But we've also seen guys go below that yellow line, and when they come back up,

it is a very large wreck. There's nothing good about it, especially on the front stretch where it's curved. If they get clipped or something, there's one way they're heading. They're going to get up in the air, and they're going to head towards the grandstands. And we don't, and down the back stretch, I can't even imagine how low we would run somebody getting into three or whatever. I mean, so to me, we need an out-of-bounce. you know, there would normally be a wall there.

You know, at a regular track, you have a short track, something, you have walls and stuff like that. Normally a wall is a limit. But we can't be down there that low. And, you know, I think everything was called right here. We now know, don't go below the line. There's not usable racetrack safely. So it was another example for me in the Xfinity series

that those guys can go out at a plate track and put on a better show than the cup guys. I think we've seen that a lot in the last few years. You know, not every plate race weekend, but a lot of plate races, you know, the Talladega's Daytonas, I think the Xfinity series puts on a phenomenal show. And it says a lot to, you know, there are veterans in that series, obviously like Elliot and Justin and, you know, this weekend, Chase and Blaney and those guys. But there's a lot of young guys out there, too. And before you start the race, you look at that field and you go, oh, this could be really, really bad. But it's not for some way those guys are figuring out how to go out there and put on a show without turning up 40 cars.

We need, maybe the cup guys need to start watching that race and take a few pointers from them, you know. Well, they have a couple, they have some wrecks every now and them, but they do put on a good show. They do a good job. On that point, Spencer Gallagher's post-Exfinity Race tweet, and I'll repeat this, I'll, I guess you all know Spencer, so you know his personality. Look, you, Barney Fives had sacks can quote the rules to me all night long, but here's a fact. A 19-year-old kid made an incredible move to win his first race. on racing's biggest stage, and it got taken away over six inches of asphalt. If that doesn't strike you as wrong, then check your head.

Spot on for having cahoonas. Yeah. I mean, that's massive cahoonis. Yeah. Spot on for hitting sinned. Spot on for the entertainment. When I read it, I started laughing. And then I was like, spot on for social media.

And then I was like, I'm not sure what a satsack is. And then we'll get here. And Casey and Jason don't even know who barn. Fife is. That's true. Have no clue. Well, it was before. Play the Andy Griffith theme song.

Cue it up over there. I mean, I know him. Do you not know it? No. Do do, do, do, do, do, do, do. See, I know that. You can say that. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

That's how you know who Barney Fife is. Your kids grew up in the wrong air. I'm just kidding. Man, here's a guy that's coming back from suspension. It's whistling, too, by the way. It's not. Yeah, it's not his, that's it. Yeah, I can't whistle that well.

But here's a guy coming back from suspension. A lot of positives, hopefully coming into his life, and then he puts this out there. I couldn't help but laugh, but people need to realize this. That was one of his team's cars. That was a GMS car. There's a lot of emotion that things that come over you.

Within any sport, there's a lot of calls that you see get made that you agree with, and a lot you disagree with. And if it's against your team, you're pretty much always going to disagree with it. I mean, T.J. tell you when you put your headset on, you really only care about your car for the next four hours. You know, you don't want to screw anybody over by any means from a competition standpoint, a sportsmanship standpoint.

But you only really care about your car. When NASCAR makes a call and you don't agree with it, you lose your mind. So I think that's just what happened here. You? I mean, he was just probably, probably should have waited a day before he tweeted. But, you know, I don't know. I mean, if his car gets passed from somebody below the line, they win the race, I think he's the opposite way.

So, I mean, it's rolls or rolls, man, if you don't, that's how it happened. GMS could have won two plate races this year. Had that guy not going to blow the L line. All right. Let's take a break. This is your Exalt to Race Center update. I'm Matthew Dillner. At Daytona International Speedway, the sparks flew, the cartage grew, and the driver to visit Cup Series victory lane was, well, new.

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All right, guys, we're back. I guess we've been back. Let's head into Fast Lane. I'll give these guys 30 seconds to answer each of these questions. First one, ISC President John Saunders said the lack of star power has impacted the attendance numbers so far this season and that younger drivers winning the races with help. Do you think NASCAR has a lack of star power? You know, it really surprised me the way the media jumped on the

line about the young drivers and not the first part of that. I mean, producer Jason's obviously come up with this question. Do you think NASCAR has a lack of star power? No, I don't. I think we have a lot of stars. I think all these guys in their own right are stars. I think team owners that employ them are employing stars. I think sponsors that are sponsoring them are sponsoring stars. And I think it's pretty ludicrous for this guy to make this comment about we need more star power. I mean, we did just lose our biggest name in the sport with Dale Jr. retiring, but we still have a seven time champion out there racing. Who, oh, by the way, is tied for the most championships in NASCAR history.

So I think our stars are there. I think he was on a conference call and earnings call and he was reaching and I think he reached in a wrong direction. I don't think we have a lack of star power. I think we have a, I think we could use more winners. I think it could be, you have some really good drivers and some really fast cars and that happen to be guys that have been around a while, you know, and they're really good too.

know, they're great drivers. So you put great drivers in really good stuff. But it would be, I think it would be definitely, I definitely think it would help to have more different winners. I do agree with the different winners part, but I remember somebody submitted the question that said, like how the person lived in that state or the city of the race that was coming up, and they're like, I didn't even know there was a race going on.

So for ISC, you know, I feel like a track standpoint should be doing more to bring more tendons. Yeah, we talked about that. You know, T.J. is talking about race winners last year. We had tons of new race winners, different race winners. We had, you know, double-digit race winners. And I think if that were so important that ratings would be up 15% this year instead of on a slight decline. So, again, if I'm a driver and I put a helmet on and I'm in the top three series, my feelings are probably heard over this statement. I'm not a driver. I'm a spotter. So I don't, you know, I manage a driver and have managed multiple drivers at some points in my career. It's just hurtful, you know, that the, the, the, the, The top of a huge discipline within our sport would say we lack star power because I don't see it that way. Given Dale Jr.'s plate racing expertise, do you think his drafting analysis in the booth will give away tips and secrets that teams can use to improve their performance at Daytona and Talladega? T.J. Well, this is coming from the tweet that I wrote back to him because I was actually watching the broadcast. for the Xfinney race.

Were you home yet? No. From the Xfinny race, I was watching it, and he does a very good job of describing what we're looking at more so than, and I haven't watched a lot of broadcasts like that, but I feel it's more so than he is very good at plate racing, and he's giving you his insight on what he's looking for. And, you know, it's a totally different,

it could maybe help a little bit. a little bit, but it's different. He'll tell you, when you go up there, you got to be able to spot out the front and back at the same time and find out where these. And it's, it's not easy. And there's, honestly, there are, I don't listen to a lot of guys, but there's some that stand out when you get to these places with info and how their drivers can use it. Dale Jr. is a top three plate racer in NASCAR history, period. You won't convince me otherwise. And I see a lot of really good feedback from guys who watch football and describe how Tony Romo tells you what's about to play before the snap.

And I feel like that's what probably Dale Jr. is giving you is some of that huge, huge, huge played insight. And for this to even be a question says that to me, and I didn't hear the commentary, but to me it just says that he's doing a phenomenal job of painting the picture for these fans of what's going through these driver's heads. Yeah, he was describing, you know, okay, this guy needs a side draft, this guy now,

this guy needs, and it's like, dude, you got to be quiet. No, he was doing it great. They were, they were, I thought the broadcast was great. It was kind of, it was very similar to the Tony Romo thing where, I mean, Romo lineup, you'd be watching, what was it, Monday Night Football he was doing? You'd line up and he was like, yeah, this is run to the left and you're like, dang, look at this guy. And I like it. I thought it was pretty cool.

It gives me something to look for during the plays, you know, and, but Del Jr. was doing a really good job of describing what guys needed to do. But there's a difference in describing it. actually wording it and giving your driver useful information. I mean, he knows that. My only question to him would be, as good as you were at it. And look, I know the guy had some bad concussions and stuff, but as good as you were at it, as good as you are describing it, do you miss putting that helmet on and going out there and actually doing that?

Because I don't know if he says yes because he's so good at it, or if he says, no, I really don't because he realizes a risk. Like, I wonder which one wins in that question. I mean, after the other night, I know which one probably wins. He's probably like, I am so glad I'm dumped out. Yeah. And that wreck happened for the lead. Yeah.

So where are you safe? Nowhere. You can't hide. That's creepy. I see dead people. All right. It's now been two years since Kentucky repaved its surface. Do you expect the racing group to widen out this weekend?

I don't know if we should use this question. No, I really, Casey, I really don't. You know, I think they're not. I think they're running the tire dragon there. They're running it right around the bottom, maybe bottom and a half lane. Can't wait. We've already said it. We don't like repavers.

We know what we're doing. Isn't that that place? Yeah. They were the ones last year. So last year... Is your secret? We're not aware of? They ran the bottom in.

It doesn't make sense to run the bottom in. With the tire dragon. Some people started questioning it. Like, why did you run the bottom line in? We're just going to run single file down there. That's where all the grip is. run it up some so we can move up. And the track president replied, we know what we're doing.

Two drivers. Drivers were saying, we, you know, whatever. Drivers have been saying, you're screwing up, do this. And the track president said, we know what we're doing. Well, they're doing the same thing again. So I don't know. I mean, the good news is we have three series going. And I felt like the trucks put on a phenomenal show at Vegas.

So I hope that the trucks can widen that groove. about Xfinity can widen it out because the cup cars need it to be widened out for them to be able to put on a race when you saw Chicago we have multiple grooves when in an Xfinity series for whatever reason we can we can tend to put on a good show despite the fact we're in the throttle so much but the cup cars are going so much faster they're going too fast to pass it's crazy they need to spend like 350 days running the middle and top in with the tire dragging yeah and then the rest of the time maybe just dust off the bottom yeah Kentucky. Oh, Kentucky.

You guys sound thrilled. I want to love it because I love the people in Kentucky. It's actually not a bad shaped racetrack. We just need to be able to move. You know, it's not a bad racetrack. We used to be able to move around in three and four. They repaved it, though. Yeah, and then they repaid it, and it got terrible.

They repaved it. And it was because the front stretch was like a super cross track. I mean, you could literally see the cars. When we can see the cars... When spotters see the car's bouncing, it's big. I thought they needed mouthpieces in. Yes, and some people actually talked about doing that. We tried to pass Danny Hanlon one time there, and we jumped so high that we almost wrecked trying to pass him.

It was that bad. But I feel like you could have repaid for that part of the racetrack and left the rest of it, it would have made no difference, you know, because who cares if you repaid the trial? Is that going to matter? No. No. Fix the bumps over there. But the corners had character and you could move and it was pretty awesome.

So it's just so hard to move. If you get up, if you get a lane out of the groove right now, you're going way up the racetrack and it's just hard. I mean, it's. This place fought so hard. The state of Kentucky, you know, obviously SMI fought so hard to get a cup race there. And it's worked hard to make it great. And it's worked hard. You know, obviously those people that are there working hard to promote it and make it great.

And it's just challenged when your track surface is one groove. You know, it's the same thing in Michigan. Michigan's a phenomenal racetrack with a bad surface. In time, we'll get better. We'll see. Off the wall topic. An island near New York City is now home to the ultimate glamping, which is glamorous camping experience,

featuring chef-prepared meals, full electricity, and air-condition tents. Do you consider glamping real camps? camping. TJ? No. I mean, camping to me is getting a tent or having a camper at a place where you actually have to, you're outside a lot and you're not, you know, fish, go walking on trails, play around the woods and stuff. With nature.

Yeah, you're not like, you know, this isn't like, you shouldn't have a city within. you know, a few miles from you or whatever. This you should drive deep into the woods of the mountains or whatever and camp. The word camping to me means a tent in a sleeping bag and a propane, a little, you know, thing to cook, a griddle and a charcoal grill. Like, that's what camping means to me. So this doesn't sound like camping to me. I mean, riding around in a 50-foot million-dollar RV or a chef-prepared meals.

I would maybe, maybe give you camping in a pop-up tent, maybe. but anything that has a motor in it that you're sleeping in, that's not camping. I do want to do this, though. If I were really rich, which I'm not, but if I were really rich, well, I think I need to be wealthy to pull this off. I want to go buy a prison that has been closed, and I want to open this prison up as a resort, but I want you to have a prison experience, and I want you to, so if you're really rich and you still this idea, I'm going to come find you, and I'm going to do something. I don't think anybody will do that.

Don't worry. No, no, no. Dude, just imagine going by in a big old prison and turning it into a resort where in the middle of the resort, you got this really nice pool, but we have strict orders. Like at midnight, it slides out. At this time, you got to be putting your cell. At this time, you got to come eat. You got to eat like it's a slop hall.

First guest is the guy from Daytona. I am kind of crazy over some of those police shows and prison shows on TV. Do you all watch those? You know what I'm talking about, locked up or locked in or locked down? Like, no, the prison shows where it's just people in prison. Like, I get kind of excited watching that stuff. I'm like, man, I want to go try that for a week. But I want to go.

Yeah, there's a convenience store right up the road here. You want to go in there? This is the part you're missing. No, I want to be able to go to the pool and I want to be able to look at my high phone. And I want to be able to play PubG. Like, I want to still have some freedoms. But I want the experience of some dude, the 6 o'clock opening my cell door going to get your ass up, boy.

So you want to get arrested without getting arrested. Kind of, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. All right. I'm glad nobody likes my idea. If you're out there listening and you're coming their clothing.

Are you wearing orange? You got to wear the, no, I ain't wearing orange. No, I'm wearing Garnet. Garnet jumpsuits for everybody. I don't believe they have. There's got to be somebody listening to this show that thinks this is a great idea. They won't, you just think you and Chad could go be locked up all week. It could be your honeymoon spot.

You can swim. I can think of anything better. Hey, I'm going to tell you what. Don't go scuba diving on your honeymoon. I've seen some bad things on TV about that. What? Don't go scuba diving on your honeymoon. Do I want to know why?

No. Just don't do it. Just don't do it. All right. Any advice I give you, take it. If I tell you tomorrow's Easter, go dye your eggs. It's not bad advice, okay? I tell you tomorrow's Thanksgiving by a turkey.

Tomorrow's Christmas wrap a present. Oh, you're poor kids. Just don't not trust my advice. No, they. Coming from the guy that wants a prison hotel. I can't help it. Prison resort. Man, I think it's a great idea.

There's a hotel in Charleston that you could be. We're talking about glamping. So there is a hotel in Charleston that used to be the prison. There is? Is it Charleston or Savannah? I think it's Savannah. So somebody's already done. It's Savannah.

Yeah. But it's a hotel hotel. No, but it's not like you have rules. It's a hotel. tell. Like, you go there and stay there for fun. I want it to be a prison experience. No, this isn't bars and they drop your dinner on the floor when they drop coming in there.

I wanted to still be fun, though. Y'all are missing some of the cool parts of it. I'm not able to obviously put a pool. Yeah, there's a pool. I'm trying to figure out what cool parts of prison I want to deal with. I did a live tour. I did a tour five years ago at San Quentin with Stevie Reeves. Stevie Reeves is friends.

I don't know if we can tell the story on the show. We'll tell it anyway. Stevie Reeves is really good buddies with prison guards at San Quentin. I don't know how I got to be buddies with him. Stevie Reeves raced. He raced Indy car. He raced Xfinity Series. He now spots for Pomerard.

Okay, great dude. So he comes to me. He goes, hey, man, we're doing a prison tour at San Quentin. I said, hey, dude, there's people there. Like, Alcatraz, there's nobody there. He's like, yeah, I know, there's people there. I was like, what kind of prison tour? So he tells me, I'm like, man, this sounds really cool.

So we get there. Sign your waiver? Walk through a gate, close it behind you. Walk through another gate, closes behind you. Walk through a gate, and now you're in a holding cell, and they basically come out there with this waiver, and they literally tell you verbally, they're not going to barter for you.

If you get captured, if you get taken hostage, we will not give these guys so much as a pizza pizza to get you back. We're going to try to get you back, but we're not going to give them anything because we can't give them the opportunity in their heads to think they will ever have leverage on us.

So you're like, wow. And then they look at my buddy Joel, who now spots for Amarola back then it was Biffle, and they go, hey, Joel, you got on the wrong color sweatshirt. We can't tell you from the prisoners. So if a riot or something breaks out, man, I'm sorry, we're going to lock you right up with them, and we're going to tackle you and throw grenades and shoot you with fake pellets,

BBs or whatever. So he had to go change shirts. We went in this prison, blown away. I mean, like, one of the coolest experiences, obviously there's people in there that are idiots. And I hate to say the word cool in this context, but just blown away with the whole aspect of it. So maybe I'm just caught up in this whole prison thing a little bit too much. I didn't realize they give tours and prisons. Well, it's not a tour.

It's not a tour. Like it's a we were we were we were I guess an exception yeah oh we went everywhere I think they do tours we we went I went in death row I mean we walked in the death row yeah they do tours yeah they do tours I think it was big we were we were we're moving out like cows so we crossed across the yard and we're walking across the yard and they're moving at us because we're being herded up they're going mhm so this is the other part this man you're like I ain't say another I ain't say nothing walk into level three prison, and there's a dude right beside of my head. They told us when we walked in, they said, you have to walk really close to the first level.

And I, of course, being me, said, why? Well, people on the second, third level will throw things at you. And I'm like, well, what's in their cell? No, they'll throw body fluids at you. And I'm like, like, but they're body fluids? They're like, yeah, I'm like, okay, so I walk really close to the bottom level. This dude is sitting here screaming in my ear because we had to stop because something happened. God bless you, God bless you, God bless you.

I looked at him, I said, man, God bless you. He said, where's Danica Patrick? Is she on this tour with y'all? Because they had heard that NASCAR people were coming in. So, uh, good. I was like, man, I'm really sorry, but she ain't here. That's creepy. He immediately turned normal.

He's screaming in my ear. Like, he's starting to freak me out a little bit. Did you tell Danica that? No. I don't know, Danica. But anyway, I don't blame him. That's who I'd ask. Oh, that's hilarious.

All right. Ask BBC. Wow, I don't know how we started talking about that. Junior Nation Forever asked, do you think stage racing needs to be taken out of plate races? The average number of lead lap cars at the end of plate races from 2017 until now is 16. And from 2013 to 2016, it was 26. That's interesting, actually.

Did this guy do this research, or did he read this stats? Hang on a minute. Average number of lead lap cars in the race. Casey sucked to reading that question. Is that what you're saying? You haven't reread it? Do I need to read it? These official numbers?

I didn't double check, but. Chad, God, what are you doing? This could be completely inaccurate. I don't know, like, let's just assume they're true. Yeah. It's possible. Yeah. He's saying, do you think stage racing needs to be taken out of plate races?

That's his question. And then he gave you stats backing up while he's asking the question. I don't think stage racing had anything to do with Saturday night. I don't. I don't. I don't. I think we saw a guy that was maybe a little more confident than he should have been, trying to make something happen.

I don't know if it's stages. I think it's more of the playoffs, you know, which, I mean, I guess it comes back to the stages a little bit, but I can promise you he was thinking win. I'm going to tell you what this guy's smart about is this race had nothing to do with stages because we didn't have to pit during these stages. And the other plate races that we run, we have to pit because. Well, Talladega got to pit. Daytona, you don't.

$500 you do. Oh, it's longer. Because a 400-mile race at Daytona, you don't have to pit. This is the only plate race we run all year where you don't have to pit during a stage. So we can't have our own strategies already made up before the race starts. So we only had to run 40 laps. We only had to run 40 laps. So we're literally racing the length of the stage.

We do know when the caution is going to fall. But there's not that time for us to get really split up and create that separation. So I think, and I'll say this. I've said this on a show before. I think we need stages in plate races, but we don't need to stop the show for them. That's how I feel. Yeah, it was actually...

I have a feeling that sometimes the show is going to stop itself coming to the checkers, but I don't mind stopping it. I don't mind, I guess it's something. You guys wanted, everyone wanted the... They didn't like us riding up by the wall, single file, chilled out at some points in a race. This stops all that. So, which one do you want?

You know, do you want a bunch of guys kind of chilling trying to make it any of the race? Or you want guys going for it, trying to get some stage points. So. So it had no real impact, really. At least for this. No, we don't have to pit. Yeah. Larry Burns asks, if NASCAR will take away Justin Haley's win,

why can't they take a win away from a car that is deemed illegal? That's a good question. Yeah. I ask us a lot. Oh, they can. They can do whatever they want. Oh, man. I don't know.

It's hard, though. How do you? It's hard to, you win the race, you do your celebration, you go right to victory Lane. A lot of this stuff, they don't find until it would take a while. So. Aaron calls me every week during the podcast. It's like she doesn't know I'm doing a podcast.

She calls it. Look, Aaron's extra. Aaron, we're doing the podcast to call you later. Thanks for calling it like you do every Monday. Jesus. I don't know. Maybe if we did the podium thing, it would give the series long enough to go back and, you know, maybe give them enough time to run these cars through certain things they want to do. I don't know.

It's tough to do. I think TJ and I have both been on the show before. Not happy with guys who have won who have kept their win because they were illegal. guys who have won $100,000 Xfinity races, guys who have won, you know, cup races, you know, so I have to agree as a fan that Larry is on to something. We don't need guys winning

that aren't legal. And they have to figure out, like, we talked about a few weeks on this show, you have some options, you know, either do less tech post-race or do something immediately that if you clear that, you're the winner no matter what. Like, we just can't get to the point to where were questioning the integrity of the win. Yeah.

And I don't think that's a positive. And I think with the win at Daytona, Justin Haley won the race, but he made a move that was illegal, and he was kicked out of the winter circle. And it was the right thing to do for the integrity of sport. If we don't make that call, who, thank goodness they did, you know.

Yeah. And I think it's frustrating to see somebody like a multiple winner, somebody like, you know, say Kyle were to win next week, finds out his car is too low after, and doesn't get credit for the win for playoff stuff, but still gets the win. I mean, really. I mean, it's tough.

And that's happened. Yeah. That's happened a lot. But, yeah, he's really, it's always easy for us, you know, me and T.J. call it couch racing because now we're sitting on the couch and we're watching racing and are going back and talking about the race. It's really easy after the fact of most sporting events to be able to make the right call.

It's really hard in the middle and at the time, you know, and I think you have to be. prepared for scenarios and they were prepared for this scenario. And I think they have to now get prepared for these post-race scenarios where guys aren't legal and they got to figure out how they're going to handle it. So you go back to potentially doing like some sort of inspection before victory lane or whatever like to make it legal or make it fair. Don't they do that for the poll award? Like after qualifying the car has to go through inspection and then go out and it's like really deemed. It's tough though because our sport, they drive the car to victory lane. Yeah, totally

different. I know hypothetically, but... I know, like, if you watch World of Outlaws race, they drive the car, they go to the scales first and then they're done. Yeah, but... There is a process. There is a process, but it's... theirs is really quick. Ours would take some time to go in there and put it on the sticks, you know, and it would take a little bit. I'm not... I don't know. It's hard for... To me, to me, we just need to make the penalty more severe. If you start making these penalties more severe, they're going to quit doing it.

You know, you're going to make sure your car is right. You know, I don't know what severe is, though. Yeah, I know. Well, we got to get to the point where it's bad enough where you don't want a chance where you know you're going to try to make your stuff right. I mean, without suspending the driver, which we all know, that's ludicrous. I mean, you can't suspend the guy that's attracting the sponsorship and is the talent, you know, to go out and get, you know, me to come sub for. I'm like, what about lose?

What about loser? You can't qualify that next week and you get last pick of the pit or something. I'd give up a win for that, though. I'd take a win to be kicked out of qualifying the next week. What about you got to pick coming to the green? I'd still take a win. What about you start a lap down? Still take a win.

What about you start? I'm going to be in the winter circuit on TV. No matter what. Kissing the girl, getting the trophy. I'm a winner in the record books. I don't care what you. I mean, I know. I mean, I get what you're saying, but I don't know what the penalty is.

I don't know. It's hard. Very interesting. It's just so hard because all our victory stuff. So fast right afterwards. Yeah, I mean, you want your TV audience and your live audience to be able to enjoy that part of it. Yeah. You know.

They want to see the driver. But you also on Tuesday, I don't want to hear that the guy that you watched win was too low or to this or to that. I mean, all the photos, like all the sponsors, what they do following the win. It just. I mean, they're all waiting for the driver get out of the car. That's the camera. You know what I mean? But maybe now with the interview on the front stretch.

They can. Maybe now they don't necessarily need the guy in Victory Lane to do that. I don't know. There's. But, oh, well. Nat 0123 asks, has Clint Boyer ever contemplated doing dirt bikes stunts like Evil Canevo style? Did you see it last time he rode that one? He did do a stunt.

Yeah. That was hilarious. Google Clint Boyer Atlanta motorcycle. Yeah, I'm sure something will come up. I was there. It was hilarious. And ask yourself, did he lift? They had a whole shot contest between a bunch of guys that liked to wrap their bikes.

It was like Tydell and. Yeah, it's like Ricky Stenhouse, Greg Biffle, who was a maniac. Clint and Clint was bound and determined to win this whole shot and he won the whole shot contest he also He also almost almost broke his neck. I was like well this was real fun I'm glad I came to watch this guy right before the race He wasn't gonna lose that one Oh, Clint's crazy man he's a fun dude he's awesome Anything you guys want to rant about? No, I'm in a great mood other than y'all don't like my prison idea What about Aaron you're not mad at Aaron? No, I'm not mad at sir

That's your rant I can't figure out that every Monday between 930 approximately and I'm on the podcast. She's so nice. When I call her back, here's what I say. Hey, Aaron, I was doing my podcast. Just like I was less, 72 Mondays you called. Jeez. Aaron, this is your warning.

Sorry, Aaron. Thanks for the appearance. Okay, bye. She did. That was her. Laugh it off. Let's see here. I have my pick already.

Wow. I can't believe I won again. I know. Right after Joey wrecked, the first thing I thought was, wow, Carson was way off. Yeah. She was very confident. You mean when everybody wrecked right there? You realize that was from second place back.

I know. It was horrible. I'm going to go with Alex Bowman. Damn, that's who I was going to pick. Yep. You just stole my pick. Dang it. Today, man.

Come on. Let's go. I know. No. He was a turn. How many races are left before the chase starts, Jason? Seven? Eight.

Eight? Man, we are. I would love to pick Ricky Crash House. I'm at Stenhouse. But he's, bless his heart. I'm going to have to hold off on him. I don't know what I'm holding off for. I'm going to go with Paul Menard.

Next week, I'm going to have a. Holy cow. Timmy Hill. He's going to be my guy. I'm getting low on picks. We are running out. Yeah. It's going to be.

rough by the end. It is. But it resets for the playoffs, so. I'm thinking maybe we should reset a few weeks before the playoffs. I'm being aggressive. You're going to pick people that aren't even racing? Who hell is Finchum? Finchum. Fitchum.

Chad. Chad. Yeah. Chad, yeah. Yeah. He runs Exchinity. Oh. Okay.

When's Matt Kansas's first race back so I can pick the guy? Is it this weekend? Holy cow. Is it Kentucky? No. Is it? Yeah. I think yeah.

I think yeah. I think yeah. I still ain't picking him. It's not happening. It's not happening. Well Gone Gillan

Gillan Galding The Gis Hemrick Hill I mean we are really going to be Picking some Kenningtons And some hills here soon Yeah Thank goodness our buddy keeps up with this too

For us You still have some good ones I mean Brett's This is solid TJ's is Out We have like almost all the same people

No He has McMurray and Menard Which is using Menard And he has Stenhouse That's the only differences Really? I mean, that's a solid list. You're going to see.

He's got almond dinger. What's how to see? Let me just tell you. He's going to pick an almond anger at the glen. I may say, hey, I may save almond anger for the roble. You didn't think about that. It'll be reset by the roble. It's okay.

That's a cheap playoffs. Yeah. Oh, you didn't think about that either, did? Well, I just thought about the robo two minutes ago, so it was on the fly. I'm going to Brennan gone. We're testing the roval for the next two weeks for all you people out there who want to know. T.J. and I are going to be doing. We're going to be...

I'm not at this one. I'm not at this one either. I'm at the next one. So this Tuesday, they're taking half the field to test the roval. And then next Tuesday, they're taking the other half of the field to test the roeval. I've only seen it from the air and obviously from the spotter stand, the construction of it. But it looks really cool, taking off in and out of Concord. It looks fun.

I'm excited. Yeah, the track actually invited sponsors and everybody out, so I'll be there next season. It seems like a challenging race course. Yeah. Y'all go home, watch some Andy Griffith. Griffith. It's not Griffin, like me, it's Griffith. Yeah, y'all. You're not related?

No. Well, you guys have fun in Kentucky. You're not coming? No. Or you midget racing. Midget racing. But I'll be in New Hampshire. Where you stay in New Hampshire?

Manchester. I'm sorry. By the airport. Where do you stay? Last time I stayed at Mills Falls and it was gorgeous. I'd never even heard of that. I'm excited to go to the macruses to see the lobster. and go hiking.

Lobster mac and cheese. Gross. It's disgusting. The weather's usually great up there. It is. Just like Kentucky. Yeah. If you live up there in the northeast and you haven't been to Mills Falls, New Hampshire.

I've never been there. Beautiful. Or the racetrack. Yeah. There's a lot of racing going on up there. Exfinity Cup. They normally have the modifies there. I don't know if they are.

Yeah. Tractors, P. They race everything up there. Yeah. They'll race everything. They'll be like 19 series up there. can literally go there on a Thursday night and know you're waking up Friday morning to some sort of car on the track.

It scares you to death as a spotter. She's like, oh, God. Is that my car out there? It's true. If you hear a motor and you're not, you're like, oh, well, at Daytona, they run that NBC car right like before Prattis or something. And we heard that car go by and everyone's like, look at their schedule. I was like, what was that?

Who was that? Who's that? Yeah, who's rolling? It'll freak out. It does. But, uh, oh, well. Well, you guys, good luck this weekend. Thanks, you too

Have fun in Kentucky Have a good show sheet, dog Thank you Yeah, thank you How many weeks you've been doing this? A lot of weeks About time you got a good one out there I know finally

It took a while Barney Fife looking producer Yes I just paid him a great compliment Do we need to record that? I'll write it down He did a great show sheet Yes

I just told him Good job you Yeah Oh, pat on the back there Yeah Good job you Barney Fife looking producer Thank you What is a sad sack?

I'm not sure what a sad sack You're very similar It is Okay Your hair is similar. I'll let you know next week. Barney 5 rarely has a hair out of place when his hat's off. We're out.

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