Door Bumper Clear - 107 - Safety First!

Episode Date: July 16, 2018

Matthew Dillner joins shady TJ, convict Brett and seatbelt-less Jason to talk Ricky Stenhouse Jr. v.s. Kyle Busch, Kentucky’s sprinkler folly, underrated drivers, anticipation for Eldora, NASCAR’s best trash talkers, singalong Ubers and more. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Stunning. Stunning stuff here. Was that a... Stunning analysis. I mean, I'm glad y'all spot better than you... I thought I did a good job on that whole thing. I mean, you did good. I thought my acting was good.

I thought you were producing and editing was good. I mean, I think... Is there an acting award for podcast? Acting? I don't know. Probably. But there's an award for every damn thing. Was that a Dale call in the beginning?

Dale who? The Dale call. This is a song, Jason. Yeah. I don't even. He's like, what's this? Heart in the trail of the park. Stop it.

My parents are going to be mad. Only eight seconds. Only a second. I love that. I feel like I broke my parole to have a good time. I think, by the way, Casey isn't here. You got the big guy, Matthew Dillner, filling in as Casey. Oh, we're hot already?

We're hot already, man. We're rolling. That was the intro. Like, that was it. So we're doing intros now as part of the show. That's a... You didn't listen. No.

It's literally listening. feel like I'm on TV or something. Don't even think about picking up that paper either. I know. Those things are glued to the desk. Don't even think about it. So we always make all these good videos and we can never use them because TJ's holding his paper out like this.

He's holding it up above his face or I'm like, he's like, he's like this looking down. So it looks like he's asleep. I'm over here. He's far near sided. It looks like. He's like, what's far near side?

I can't see. I don't know why. What's far near sided? I don't know. I don't know the difference between far. Far side it means you could see things. You have a tough time seeing things up close. Yes, it's the opposite.

So that makes no sense. Yeah, pretty much. It's like opposite day. So far side it means I can see far. Yeah, you're good. It's like understeer and oversteer. You know what understeer means? Yeah.

What's understeer? Loose or type? It's, that'd be like, oh, I have understeer. That'd be so. Understeer. That means that's when the idiots steer their car from underneath. Why don't you call me idiots? Yeah.

What do you mean? What do you mean? Sorry, Snowflik. What do you mean? Welcome to Door of Opera Clear. Yeah, with the new intro. It starts with the Dale call, lots of editing in the middle there. What a Dale call are you talking about?

You've never seen the Dale call? Yeah, the roar of the engine at first sounds like a Dale call. Oh, it does sound like that thing you blow in and he shows up. Yeah, we should do that later today. Your son doesn't have one of them? No, I should get him one. No, you shouldn't. You'll hate it by the way.

I think you should release that as a ringtone. I think people are going to want. Del call ringtone or DBC ringtone? No, yeah. Door, bumper, clear. Nobody wants that as a ringtone. Y'all made fun of my prison idea, and everybody tweeted me wanting to stay at my prison. Hey, I didn't make fun of it.

I'd go. And there's some dude suggests that we have a shoe show at the prison. Man, there's fans of all kinds, aren't there? So, I'm just saying. I mean, there's like 10 people that tweeted me, so we maybe need to do like a bed and breakfast prison instead of a big prison. Dude, none of this. We're not doing glam. I see, that's the thing.

You guys were talking about glamping, right? Yeah. In that show. Yeah. Like that would be the ultimate anti-glamp. Yeah. Would be the prison camp. Yeah.

There's... Wait, prison camp. That doesn't sound good. Yeah, I don't. We try to get rid of those. If you had to go to prison, what would you have to go to prison for? What would you do wrong, you think? Yeah, you're shady.

I'm going to ask that question. He's like, what did I do? He's like, I'm burying bodies. Yeah. Why got that shovel in your trunk, did you? Uh, why do you carry a whole body? of industrial trash bags and a shovel. What's that chloroform for?

Yeah. Does this smell like chloroform? I mean, I don't know if that's something. I don't want to publicly disclose. Yeah, because then if something happens, it's like down there. Now you know.

They'll just reference back to show number 107. Yeah, I mean, come get him. You're so shady, T.J. Yeah. What would you go for then? Me? Yeah.

I mean, I've almost went to prison a few times. Prison? Or jail? Jail. I guess there's a difference. You damn right. There's a difference. You're right.

Okay, I've almost gotten to jail a few times. I went to jail once. Do you almost go to prison? Hell no, man. Myrtle Beach jail. Everybody, they sell t-shirts there. So I just got a lot of them because I want a t-shirt. I'm like, wonder what I can get away with right here.

Oh, I didn't get away with it. I got to go to jail. I want a t-shirt while I'm here, guys. Hey. I went to Myrtle Beach and all I got was a record. If you're from South Carolina, like you have to go to jail once. My, mom. That's like Bowman-Gray.

If you go to Bowman Gray and you race at Bowman Gray, you got to go to jail because she doesn't know I've been to jail. Oh, really? Yeah, it's probably late for that now. Too late. She's going to, she reads Twitter. She's going to know because somebody's going to tweet it. Yeah. I mean, I would imagine that most people have been to jail once, right?

You've been to jail? I'm pretty sure you're the only one in this room that's probably been in jail. I've been in jail now. Jason Schultz. No, okay. No jail. You been in jail? This guy didn't even know what, okay.

Okay, we're going to go rehab. This kid right here didn't know that song by rehab. He didn't, he's never seen Smoky in the Bannet. He's never seen Animal House, I figured out. And then to top it all up, he's never heard of the song. He didn't know what Bohemian Rhapsody was. Yeah, that's Queen. Yeah.

Like, we need to come up with a list. DBC, like, ask what the list. What the list? Just watch Wayne's World. You'll know what it is. All right. The problem is we give him a list and he still doesn't do it. You guys gave him a list?

He tells he's got summer off. He's got time off. Got all this time. Conventions and all that stuff. You're glad to see your profile picture or your, Your background image ran well this weekend. That's nice. Yeah, good job on that.

That's okay. He got the instant karma got him because homeboy over here wreck this weekend. Did you hear about that? Got rearranged it on 77. He needed a spotter. You needed a spotter. Why did you slam on your brakes? The guy behind me needed a spotter.

Why did you slam on your brakes? You got hitting the ass. I didn't. It was stop and go, 11 o'clock at night. Clint struggles was stopping goes. Yeah, a little bit. That's not a minute. So you got hitting the ass at 11 a night.

Yep. What were you doing? driving so like yeah why are we coming from at um Greg from off axis Spain I was watching the ex-fayn race with some of his guys and dog that's the guy that race with us who the go-kart guy yeah the guy nobody knew he was and he showed up oh yeah race with the spotters okay that's cool he'll spot every once in a while I thought I never seen him for yeah and I don't know he's he's never yeah I think he's maybe done short track stuff he's never I've never seen him in a truck ex finney your cup race have you no so did you match your car up at the back of the back

ends bent up a little bit. It looks like a demo derby car. So it's done. You got Whiplash? Now the seatbelt, I would. I feel fine, but the seatbelt kind of jammed, so now I can't drive. You can't drive your car? Well, the back end's like, I could drive it.

I drove it back to his shop after. But the seatbelt doesn't work, so I can't drive it. Yeah, dang. A far distance. So I've got a rental. Get a rope. A rental. Old school.

Get a rope. Tie yourself in that thing. Like Russ Trulow. I need something to get going. You rented a car because your seatbelt. belt don't work? I will always ask like the patrol man. I was like, hey, can I drive back to Charlotte?

He's like, I want to do that. So I was like, all right. Are you kidding me? You rid of a car because your seatbelt don't work. Well, their insurance is going to pay for anyway, so. Oh, well, there you go. You rented a car because your seatbelt don't work. TJ, what is this world coming to?

We're losing it. Russ True Love would roll around in his grave. Did you get some damn duct tape out and you fix that seat belt? Yeah. It's jammed. The problem is it's jammed. Is it not jammed? Is it not jammed?

your length already? It should be, right? No, it's a little shorter for some reason. Wait, did you drive it home? No, I left it up here. You got it. I just get it here. But you drove it here? I drove it here. Oh, whoa. Easy, buddy. He's a daredevil. We can't believe you made it. I can't believe you made it. Wow. Travis Pistrana's getting ready to call you.

Clirt with disaster. Travis Pistrana is getting ready to call you. He wants you to do that next job. Yeah. Good gosh, man. I'm off for it. We're poor Jason Schultz is getting it today. We're talking about going to jail and you won't even. drive a car with a seat belt. Guys, this is not safe.

I can't do it. This is not safe. Oh, my God. I just want my car back. Do you need a helmet? With a seatbelt, right? No, he just wants a seatbelt back. Yeah, we got a helmet we can give him.

I got a car seat you can borrow. We can latch it in on the bottom and you can sit in it. Jason's like taller to me and TJ. He looked cute in a car seat. Yeah, he's six foot one. They probably grew out of a car seat at six months. This is a, I don't know if we told you guys yet. This is the door bumper clear.

TJ's a spotter. I'm a spotter. You got a spot for a bunch of people. I don't spot for crap. We have a sponsor, one mate financial that actually pays us to come on this show. I can't believe they do that. Then we go on here and find out that guy doesn't know a whole bunch of good movies.

Rex his car. Can't drive without a seatbelt. But at least he produces the show well. Yeah. Hey, safety first, man. But if you have to go somewhere, you got to wheel it. But they're paying for the rental car, so I'm cool with that. You're sitting in the right hand seat.

You're probably tall enough. Want you a mail car of that stuff? Sit in the right and use your legs. Safety Sam right here. Nationwide is on your side. All right. Enough with picking on Jason Schultz. Let's move into spot on, spot off.

This one time. Did you play band in school? Do you know that movie? No. I've heard of that one. Oh, wow. We got one that he at least heard of. Have you ever heard of Gaunt with the wind?

Yeah. Oh, he's heard of it. Okay. That movie was epic. Can you be gone with the wind? No. Hell, that movie is horrible. All right.

Seriously, let's move on. Spot on, spot off. Why are we moving on? Do you remember that wedding cake they had outside of window that time? Gosh, man. Oh, my gosh. That guy had a wedding cake outside the window, and the other guy had shaved,

and they threw it out of the window. Oh, God. It went all over it, too. Oh, my God, that was funny. ever. So basically, Jason, the guy, like, you know, man-scape. He groomed himself. He manscaped.

Yeah. I'm crying. threw it over the balcony and went right in the wedding cake. Stifler. Yeah, Steve Sittler. That's the guy. Okay, now we can move on. I have that.

Hey, wait, is that the movie? I couldn't help it. You get tickled? Is that the movie where the guy had to go and he was going off the balcony and the guys down there like, ah, I can taste the bubble. Yeah. All right. How do you segue from Stifler and manscaping?

We need Stifler's mom. Stifler and Manscaping. That should be the name of the show. That one guy was always like, Stifler, your mom's going to be there? What did he call that guy? You know, growing up, I didn't have a buddy with Stifler's mom power. Did you? Yeah.

Mom power. Yeah. I like that term. Mom power. So if she's a good looking mom, it's like, man, she got mom power. You're like, I'm going to my buddy's house. You kind of. Yeah.

We had a Stiffler's mom. Yeah. Definitely. She's still hot now? I don't know. I haven't seen it in a long time. I can't imagine it can be as hot as it was then. I'm going to get out the lasso right now and lasso the two of you here.

We're going to get it spot on, spot off. Sorry. Yeah. Spot on, spot off. Spot off. Ricky Stenhouse for you. Spot on, spotter off. Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.

doesn't make any phone calls after Daytona and then tells Kyle Busch to stop running his mouth. I didn't know he didn't make any phone calls. I thought he reached out to some maybe, but his battery would have died probably. Yeah, hopefully I'd run out of minutes. Yeah, hopefully it was near a college,

so let's start there. There's just so many to call. I don't know how you even start to list. There's just, I mean, I don't know. I think at that point, maybe you just kind of let your interview, and maybe if you see a guy, don't, you know, if you pass a guy and passing or whatever, you say, hey, man,

sorry I, you know, sorry I made a couple of mistakes last week, but I don't know if you can individually call every single one of them people in a big wreck like that. It is Talladega and Daytona. You're going to have a big wreck. I don't know that any of those guys have ever went through and picked out every single guy that was in the big one if they caused it and called them.

I mean, we've seen Jimmy Johnson caused a big one. I mean, do you think Cal Yarborough called anybody back in the day and said, man, I'm so sorry, Rick, Ricky Rudd called anybody? Do you think Ricky Rudd would have said to the media, man, I told Kyle Busch to stop running his mouth? I think Ricky sat down with Harvick and Biffle a lot and had dinner and stuff. Do you think Kelly Arborough would have said at the media? Man, I'm telling you right now, he better stop running his mouth. So what's the equivalent, though, because Kyle Bush did yap a lot about it in the press conference.

I'm just saying, what's his play then? What's Stenhouse's play? His interview, I mean, you could see it in his, you could see it. When I went by, I saw a couple of them later on. You could see it and he wasn't happy about it. Like, I personally felt like I could see it. And even when they showed some of the in-car stuff, he was just like in the car with his head. He knew he made mistakes.

Yeah, and he knew people were going to be upset. But, I mean, I don't think you go through and call everybody. You know, if you wrecked with one guy and you guys kind of got in a little bit, you call the guy or somebody else got caught up in a little bit. single car, you know, something... Do you think he should have called Kyle Busch? Um, I think I would have called two people. I would have probably called Brad and I probably would have called Kyle.

Maybe William as well, because William kind of got, um, when he hooked Kyle, it kind of turned him down on William. Maybe that's a, if you're feeling really bad. So if you aren't calling them to me, that tells me you don't like them. Well, I mean, remember, Kyle Busch and Ricky Stenhouse have had a few incidents in the past. Martinsville, before that, I believe it was Atlanta. So my thing is, if you ain't going to call a guy, I don't call a guy.

But I'm not sure that, I mean, I guess the media, they're doing their job, right? They're digging. They're asking questions. They're wanting these guys talk about it. You saw Kyle Bush's press conference, correct? I did. Yeah, yeah. And, I mean, are your feelings hurt that he didn't call you?

Like, really? You won five races this year. You know, Ricky's, here's the thing about people, man. And people say, oh, man, we need drivers to be more aggressive. We need him to race harder. We need him to go after it. Then Ricky, race is harder. It goes after Rex Kyle books.

Everybody, oh, Ricky's an idiot. He can't drive. We got tore up everybody's cars. Like, I mean, fans have to pick aside here. You want guys to go after it or you don't want guys to go after it. Like, you want them to talk in their interviews candidly or you don't. Man, I'm spot on. If the guy doesn't want to call a guy, don't call him.

Yeah. I'm not going to call you. If I reckon I don't like you. You did the Dell Jr. Download earlier this year when Kyle was on it, right? Yes. Did he say he called Del Jr.? No, he didn't call it.

Well, then why is he expecting the call? He admitted on the Dell Junior download that he handled that situation wrong. Yeah. He said, had I been older or had I done this different, I would have done different. He admitted he screwed up. Well, I mean, then why is it, you know what I mean? Like if he, in the end, is this good or bad for the sport? Because Kyle Petty came out and said that NASCAR should intervene.

And I kind of think about what you just said. intervene. We all cry and want more action. Then we all cry and we want people to some controversy and we want stuff to talk about and rivalries. And this deal starts erupting the little war of words. Yeah. And all of a sudden people are like, oh, no, no, no, this isn't good and blah, blah, blah, blah. What's wrong with it? If this were Cobbush, if this were Cobbush and Kevin Harvick, it would be phenomenal. Oh, my God. Because we know that they're going to race around each other. You know, Ricky's only play is to do something when he gets lapped. And I'm not and ugly.

Or at a place like Bristol where he's running up front. I mean, Kyle's a five-star and Ricky's not right now. You know, so I think it's this. I mean, I told Herm this the spots for Ricky. I think Ricky branded himself really, really well. Like, I don't know how much time he had to think about what he was going to say, but I think in the media, his quotes were very quote-worthy. You know, like whatever he said was definitely worth being on the internet,

definitely worth being on Twitter, worth being in newspaper articles. And, like, I think what he said on his part made him really relevant, you know, 10 days after he wrecked everybody. I mean, it's 10 days after he wrecked everybody at Talladega and we're still talking about it. And what he said basically was, you know, quit running your mouth. Quit run your mouth. If you want to run your mouth, come run it to me. Yeah.

And I'll stop it. Who wins that fight? Man, I got to go with Ricky. Yeah, Ricky Stenhouse. I got, Ricky. What are the odds? Shoot, I don't know. Three to one.

Yeah, I don't. You think so? I mean, Kyle's one of the most aggressive, awesome race car drivers. He's a generational race car driver. But if we're talking about, you know, fist of cuffs and getting after it after a race in the pit area or something, my money's on Stenhouse. That dude's a little bulldog, man. And he's been working out for a handful of years now and Banachia got him tough. I don't know about that, man.

He rode bowls and all that stuff. he, Daddick, it didn't make him tough. Daddick is cooking him like soufflays and healthy food and all that. I feel like Kyle would go in there reckless. And, you know, like just like. Hey, Mike are crazy fighting? Yeah, like, and it'd be, I feel like Ricky would just be like, whoa, pop, it'd be over probably.

One punch of? Wonder what we could sell tickets to that fight for. Oh, you kidding with Kyle Bush? People would just line up. I think you could fight Kyle when we could sell tickets. Yeah, I think we could get 100 bucks ahead. Think? I know.

Paper view. I mean, this thing, ding, ding. ding, ding, ding. All right, speaking of ding, ding, ding, spot on, spot off, sprinklers came on Saturday night during the race. On Pit Road, a little... I think my favorite part about that. What's your sprinkler name? Yeah.

Do it, Jason. Can you do the sprinkler? Do you know what the darn sprinkler is? I've seen it before, but... Oh, you've seen it. Why don't you get up and do an impression of it? Well, y'all were doing pretty well, so I think we're good. Sure, let's come out.

I'm ready. Let's go. Spot on, spot off. I heard the guy. Come on the radio. Did you hear him? Yeah. I don't know who the guy was, but he came on there.

Sprinkles, there was on. We're all like, what? Then I started looking down there. That was the most exciting part of the race for me. Yeah, I don't know. Spot on. I wish I had them on the roof. Good job, Kentucky.

We're at least giving us some excitement there. Spot on, hell, why not? I wish you had sprinkles on the roof. Who do you think, like, what happened there? There's some kid in there like, dude, watch this. Like a Rodney Dangerfield movie. Do you think someone got dared to do that and did he just went in there and flipped the switch and ran or something? I think somebody forgot the timer.

Yeah. Why? Hold on. But then again, we ran the golf on Friday or Thursday or Friday. Yeah. It come on at 10 o'clock on the nose on Saturday night. Like 10 o'clock. Sprinklers are on.

Yeah. That's awesome. Good job. All right. Spot on or spot off. Ground scurry people. Hey, aim them up towards the racetrack next time you're going to do that. Make it real fun.

Right. Turn one. Please. Please. Yes. Spot on, spot off. Dale Jr. says Jimmy Johnson could win the most popular driver award this season. Still Jr.'s loss is mine.

Jimmy Johnson has no chance of winning this award. It's a real shame because a seven-time guy should be the most popular guy. I mean, he, he in theory should be our Tiger Woods. He should be our Michael Jordan. But Chase Elliott is going to win most popular driver. So we're going to have a guy. This may be the first time in NASCAR history. We're going to have a guy.

if he doesn't win between now and homestead, win the most popular driver award in the Cup series, and he's never won a race. Has that ever happened in this series before? Because if he doesn't, it's going to. Yeah, I don't think Jimmy can, Jimmy's going to win the most popular driver, even though his accomplishments should win him

multiple most popular driver awards. but that's just kind of the way our sport goes. I mean, fans kind of latch on to people, and they like kind of tradition, and they like backgrounds and stuff. So I think Ryan Blaney came in and was humble, and he's earned quite a bit of fans just by being the way he is when he came in.

But I don't see Chase losing that. I'm actually probably going to leave here and go out there and make a bet with him. I don't even know who would be second, the voting. Ryan Blaney, I think, would be second in the voting. But I look at your point that you made about Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, he should be the Tiger Woods.

But if you look at his personality, too, and anybody in this industry or anybody that spent five minutes with him as a fan, you know, they're a fan. Yeah. And because he's a cool dude. Yeah. He's the most easygoing. But he has an accolades. People gravitate the accolades.

Well, to me, late in his career, you know, when we start winding down Jimmy Johnson's career, much like when we want to. down other careers in all sports and you can include racing there was a point in time where i remember when i first came in the sport where earnhardt was booed at a lot of racetracks and late in the career uh of jeff gordon people turned late in the career of uh earnhart people turn the the haters became a little less and and the respect factor of you're watching one of the greatest raceguard drivers generational race car drivers and i think that's going to change with jimmy at towards the end oh that's like a star dust and it's a wringles fringled fairer

That's a ring notification. What is that? T.J's got somebody that's doorbell. No. Is that Tinkerbell? All right. Spot on, spot off.

Levine family racing, possibly moving to Toyota in 2019. Whatever. They've, I mean, spot on for them making this is the path that Furniture Row took.

So, you know, spot on for that, but you know, I'm still spot off for how, for the Travis Mac thing, how that all went down. I thought they were, I thought he put them in more positions to have a successful finish than what they've been in in, you know, numerous years combined and not even half a year this year. Yeah, he was swinging for the fence, but what else do you do?

You know, I would swing for the fence too, because if that one time it pays off, it changes your whole landscape of your company and everything. If you say you do get to win somewhere, something happens you get to win, you're in the playoffs. I mean, that puts you in another level. I mean, I don't know. Good for that. I mean, if you got to do what you got to do. When I look at each manufacturer, I say, who is the third best team for Ford?

Who's the third best team for Chevrolet? Who's the third best team for Toyota? Toyota doesn't have a third best team. So they have JGR and they have furniture row. And let's be honest, those guys are tied. They're tied for being the best Toyota team. So if you can go to Toyota and you can get manufacturer support because right now they're Chevrolet.

But I bet you they don't get hardly any manufacturer support. They might get like free sheet metal. They aren't getting the things that a company like Kendrick is getting, where you're getting real revenue, you're getting real engineering support, you're getting real wind tunnel time. You're getting real assistance on building engines. These guys aren't getting that. You know, they have a manufacturer on their car,

but they're not getting a support that somebody like Toyota or Ford or Chevrolet is giving out to their top three teams. So if you can switch to Toyota, and Toyota needs more teams, you know what I mean? I mean, they've only got four to five good cars out of 40. So if they can get these guys in here with Casey Kane and help these guys grow, then I think it's a huge opportunity for this race team.

This guy is spending money. Oh, yeah. Just like Barney spent money, just like Gene Haas spent money. And at some point, Matthew knows this, TJ knows this. Jason, I don't know if you know it or not. I might.

But when you get here and you spend a lot of money, you expect to run well. And when you don't run well, you either, A, spend more money, you go get more help, you get a better driver, or you say, hey, I'm done spending money. I'm leaving.

thought when they made the Travis Mac change, it was a huge step in the right direction. And I'll kind of agree with you there, TJ, because that was soon, man. You got to, you know, when you get a new driver in a car, we always say, sometimes you've got to wait for that combination to click the second time they come to a particular racetrack. Travis Mack never got that chance. It was a new car, new driver, new crew chief. I don't feel like that's a really fair shot. I noticed, the only thing I'm based, I mean, I'm based it off of, I noticed them, I noticed them in

positions where they weren't normally in more than I had before. You saw the 95, even though sometimes you're like, ooh, that looks risky, but they were trying. Yeah. You know, so. I mean, I think that it comes down to, and I'm not close to this situation, but I think a lot of times it comes down to personalities and clicking, and I've been on teams where the crew chief and driver didn't click. I've been on teams where the tire guy and crew chief didn't click.

I've been on teams where, you know, the spotter and driver don't click. Yeah, it's going to ask how they go. TJ and I have been to Daytona before for the Daytona 500, the first race of the year, and we've seen Spotter and Driver get together, and we've seen them break up before the Daytona 500 even starts. So I think a lot of times it's easy for you guys and me to say, oh, they shouldn't have got the real travel. They made this decision based on something.

We don't pretend to know everything on here, and I get what they're doing, but they're spending a lot of money, and they want to run good, and we need these guys to stick around. and a switch to Toyota will be huge for them if they can pull that off, assuming the Toyota's going to actually help them. Yeah, I have smart move on their part. Very smart move if they're going to, you know, pay for support and stuff like that.

I would. Yeah. If I'm them, I mean, if I'm going to pony up and spend the money on something, I'm going to do it. Show up at the racetrack. Look at Toyota's display out front. It's huge. You know, Chevrolet is huge, forged. Everybody's huge.

But Toyota's spending a lot of money, man. They're dumping a lot of resources into the sport, and that usually makes your cars go fast. How many races is Toyota to want? 10? This year? True X has four. Kyle has three at least. Kyle is five.

Five. Okay, so yeah, probably. Eight, man. Yeah. Nine, ten races, a lot of races. Something like that. Break time. All right, let's take a break.

This is your Exaltor Race Center update. I'm Matthew Dillner. Domination was the story Saturday night as defending a series champion Martin Turex Jr. swept all three stages of the Cup Series race at Kentucky Speedway to capture his fourth W the season. On Friday night, Christopher Bell held off Daniel Hemrick down the stretch to win the Xfinity Series race. Justin Algeyer was P3 on the podium

and Junior Motorsports top finishing driver. On Thursday, the truck series served up some home cooking in the Bluegrass State when the bell rang it was Kentucky native Ben Rhodes who scored his first career truck victory. From the home state of the Kentucky Derby to the Dirt Derby, The truck series will head to Eldora Speedway to play in the dirt on Wednesday night. Also this week, New Hampshire Motor Speedway plays host to a big NASCAR race weekend that features the modified tour, Xfinity, and Cup series.

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See, this is why I need the sheet beforehand. Tell me when to start the timer and I'll... Wow, this is such a loaded question. We'll give them time to think. A cup driver that could change organizations and run better? Yep. Yes. I mean, at all, I think there's a lot of them that could go and get in...

Well, name one. She stole my heart in the trail of the park. I took you to her. I mean, a lot of this is a lot of this. about the equipment you're in. Yeah. So if you go and get in, you know, I feel like if you put, take any guy, like you could probably take a, um, it's 30 seconds.

It's got to be up. My Jesus. Come on. Hit the bell. Trevor Bain. Trevor Bain's my guy. I want to take Trevor Bain out of Roush. I want to go put him in a furniture row car and I want to see how good he is.

I spotted for the kid when he came into the Exfinity series at MWR. He had crazy, crazy, crazy bravery and he needed to develop his talent. I think he's probably reset now that he's been out of the, a car for several weeks in and out, in and out, I think this guy is motivated. I would love to see him get in a car that's capable of running top 10 because I don't think he's ever had that chance at the cup level. I think you're crazy.

TJ's going to the sheep, man. Yeah, I'm going to the sheep. I'm going to the roster. I think you could take a guy like, you know, and that's a good one because he could use a good shot at something. But I don't know. 30 seconds is going to run out again. I still got like 20.

Let me see here. Man, I mean, if you want to donate your 20 seconds, I'll do it. You know, I would like to see what Ross could do. Chastain? Chastain in a good car. Okay. I think he races the Cup series. I think he does quite a bit with that four car in the experience of car.

How about Joy Gase? No. What? Has, does he ever go back and watch replays of how stupid he races you think? I don't. I'm just curious if he does, because I see him race stupid lap after lap. I'm wondering if he ever actually,

I wonder if his spotter ever tells him how stupid he races. No. Who spots for him? I really don't even know. Maybe he don't have one. Maybe that's why he races like that. I don't think that's going to change anything. Yeah.

I'd pick Lannin Castle because he's never really had a good opportunity. That's not true. Past Junior Motorsports. Yeah. In a rookie season where he came off a whole year where he didn't compete. He just tested. Right, right. So I got it.

I jumped in too early. I feel you. I would totally do that as mine. Let's move on. I like his jeans, man. He wears some cool jeans. What about his Mers? He's got a Mursk?

He's got a Mersk? Yeah. Satchel? Whatever you want to call? Oh, he carries around a satchel? He's driver coaching now. Like Indiana Jones? He's still racing a little bit.

Yeah. But it's so, man, you watch Landa get in a car that absolutely. is a slow race car. Yeah. And he runs a really smart race, stays out of everybody's way. And then you put a guy like Joy Gase in the same car. And you're like, oh, please. Please, pit.

I hope your seatbelt breaks and you have to pit and get out and go home because you can't race. You think Ty Dillon? Man, is there any belts? Could be in that boat. Because look at like Truex. And like... Here's what scares me about Ty Dillon. And I like the guy.

But he followed his brother's footsteps at RCR. He got in a truck that his brother won a championship. with. He got an Xfinity car, his brother won a championship with. Had a lot of the same guys in those positions. He won one race that I recall. It was Indian Xfinity car. Maybe he's one more, and I just, I'm not recalling it. I think Ty is an exceptional dirt racer. But for some reason, I've not seen the Ty Dillon that I thought was going to be there when he got to NASCAR. Because I followed him as a dirt guy, and when he made it to Exfinity a Cup and whatever, I mean, you know, you're watching this guy, And I'm thinking he's going to be better in Austin

because I really feel like on dirt he's better than Austin. But for some reason, man. I don't know. I feel like once Austin moved up to the big deal, I think it became such a big thing in the spotlight that I think everything was like, oh, okay, well Austin did. Then this kind of took all, oh, we're good enough there, we're good enough there, keep it. And you know you can't do that.

No. You got to keep putting stuff into it. You got to keep going at it. And I haven't seen that car be as competitive as it was since Austin's been in it no matter what. So I think it felt, to me, I think it didn't have quite the effort. I feel like Ty's effort this year, that team's effort is not what it was last year with Booty Barker running that team. I've always thought Booty was a good, I thought Booty was a good fit for that. I felt like he, you know, I felt like they ran a lot better with Booty than they're running this year with whatever they've got going on.

And I don't know a lot of what they got going on, but I see him getting lapped a lot more than he did last year. All right, let's move on. The Eldora Dirt Derby takes place Wednesday night at Eldora Speed. way and it's going to include some dirt racers. Logan C.V. making his first star, J.R. Heffner, Chris Windham, open wheel stand out. And the high side tickler, Kyle Strickler, is going to be running.

Will a dirt specialist take the checker or will a series record? Who goes first? Brett. Freeson. That's who I got. That would be my pick. Yeah. Of course it is, because I just told y'all who the pick is.

And I just want to agree with it. All right. Most of the race last year, too. Is Bobby Pierce running? Get on the bandwagon. I didn't see his name. That's not going to matter. I didn't see his name on the roster.

How about Bloomquist? Can he run it? I think World of Outlaws let him back in. He had a clean pea sampler. Already? Yeah. That's what I heard. It's excellent.

Good for him. I think, I don't see how a dirt regular guy doesn't win this race. Like a dirt standout guy. Do you know, Ryan Newman is in a former dirt racer. He's going to be. I'm interested in seeing how that goes. You guys know, man. At the end of that race, he gets really hard to pass.

you know, it's easy to pass. The groove moves up, and once the cushions established at the top, it's really hard to pass. And you got Matt Crafton running it like it's Martensville right around the bottom. Yeah. I'm not going, I've got too much stuff going on with other business things, but I'll be watching on TV.

It's one of my favorite days of the year to be a race fan because it's a Wednesday night. I got nothing to do. You know, it starts at 7, the main events at 9, like it's a perfect Wednesday night for me. Yeah, I don't, just the freezing, has so much experience running them modifies and stuff in long races, Super DirtWeat champion numerous times.

He knows what to do when these tracks slick off and stuff. So it'd be... Regardless of what happens, no one deserves more credit than Fox because they've put people on this broadcast that know what Dirt Track Racing is. In the past... I agree. We've turned on...

And listen, I grew up going to Super Dirt Late Model races. That's what I grew up around. I went every single week. And I'm not as into it now as I was. I still watch it, but I'm not crazy about it. But you turn the broadcast on and you hear these people talking and they don't know what they're talking about. And you're like, can we please get a dirt expert on here? Well, guess what we've got?

We've got dirt experts. Who's doing it? Christopher Bell. Oh, that's right. I did read it. It's always good when you have Kenny Wallace on there too. And Larsen, right? Super surprised Bell's not running it.

I'm surprised guys like Bell. I'd love to see Rico hopping a truck again. We all know they would. They would if they had the sponsors. Yeah, if they had the opportunity. Yeah. I mean, it's an expensive race. You know, you got to figure it costs 100 grand to show up and being really good stuff and I have a chance to win.

And if I'm one of those guys, if I'm Christopher Bell, I'm not getting into a truck if I don't have a chance to win. It hurts your brand. You know what I mean? I watched Jesse Little this weekend get into a cup car to go out there and run 35th. And I'm thinking. Does that do anything good for him? I'm just thinking. Why?

Yeah. Like, if you get an opportunity to go be. Paul Minard's teammate at the Wood Brothers, you jump up and down and you do everything you can and you go make it happen. But for a guy like Jesse Little, who I think can drive. Yeah, he does good with lesser stuff. I'm very, very impressed with that guy. You know, I'm not John Hunter Nemechek impressed with him, but given the same equipment, like, he may be that good. And I really, in my mind, for some reason, I compare those two together. But he went and got in a car that isn't capable of staying on lead lap for 25 laps. And I'm just sitting here thinking from a branding perspective,

They're like, why? You know, but it's what it is. Anyway, I can't wait for El Dor. It's fun. I agree. Should be fun. Shultz came up with this one, and it's pretty awesome. The July New Hampshire race has seen 10 consecutive different winners.

And he listed him because I didn't even know this stat. It was amazing. Statetician guy, yes. Kenzith, Kyle Busch, Kesselowski, Vickers, Kane, Newman, Johnson, Lugano, and Kurt Busch. Will one of these drivers win again, or will somebody new win, and it'll be 11? I think Clint Boyer wins this weekend. It's one of his favorite tracks. Our flat track program's good.

It's really fun to be on this show because last year, TJ and I had the cup level, the last two years on this show, we just hope we had a chance to win. It's fun going to the racetrack knowing you got a chance to win. I'm telling you, get your fantasy picks right, because Clint Boyer will be faster this weekend. That list is pretty strong.

That's a pretty good list. I think this this isn't the loud and they're doing a lot of crazy stuff to it too I think I think they're dragging it spraying it and all sorts of stuff so I don't know I'm talking about racetracks

we're talking about racetracks so and that list is pretty good I do know that I looked at the schedule for the weekend and if you're going if you want a good weekend of racing you need to go this weekend because there are so many races

there's how many races are like five probably I think there's four or five Well, we know the modifies are there. We know K&N's there. It's modified K&N's there. We know K&A's there. We know K&A. Cup.

I think there's a loan more race. Probably is. School bus. There's a ross. There's a spotter race from the stand to the cars. Yeah. I win that one every week. Yeah, you won't mean that.

That's because you leave with one to go. Two to go, actually. Two to go, Clint. You're on your own. Go ahead. Oh, man. So who do you think? You really didn't answer the question.

Imagine that. Oh, man. You know, I. Pinsky guy. You can't. I think Penske guys are on here, right? Kislauski and Ligano. Oh, Blaney.

Is Truex on that list? Nope. Nope. He's never won New Hampshire. Yeah, he'll be tough there. He never won New Hampshire? He didn't win a fall race? I don't think so.

And he cut his teeth in New Hampshire and over. I mean, that's two tracks where he ran a lot of races before he got to NASCAR. And this year, I think they're stronger than last year. People are like, no, they haven't had that dominance. Last year, they just spanked them on the 1.5s, right? This year, up until this week at Kentucky, they've been spanked. them on all different type racetracks and they finally came through on the 1.5, so I think they're stronger. So we tire tested at Kentucky, T.J. Tire tested at Kentucky, Martin Truex tire test at Kentucky.

Man, tire testing's weird because I really think a playoff eligible team should not be allowed to tire test. Ooh. I don't agree with the fact that T.J. and myself and those other two guys, you know, so here's an example, William Byron tire tested. Okay. You know, I really felt like Hendrick showed the best progress they've shown in a mile and a half this year. They had four guys capable of running top 15 all night until Alex had his problem. And, you know, that was unfortunate for those guys. But like, let William Byron go tire test. I mean, I'm sorry, but Martin Truex, Clint Boyer and Joy Lugano don't need to be tire testing.

Like, I get, I get it. But you're giving. Why Goodyear wants them for data. You're giving us a head start. We don't need a head start. Yeah, sure. Like, neither does Ligano, neither does Truex. It's like, I don't know.

I felt like, I mean, TJ, you know, his car was a top eight car probably. Yeah, we were roughly in that area. What did you finish? 10th. Yeah, I mean, I was a top six car, but pit stops and getting shuffled and track position, it was so freaking hard to pass. We almost got tangled up a Jimmy there one time shot way up the track, ended up 12th. But, I mean, all four of, the three of the four of us were top 10 cars. Yeah.

Tire testing is weird. It is. the only thing I can say against is if a guy comes in there like William doesn't have a lot of experience, tire testing or know what the real feel should be for the track, do you really get a do you want a hammer or do you want a guy that

I agree with you know We had guys out there with 40 laps on her left side tires Did it really matter who tire tested? But what I'm saying is Goodyear's going looking for feedback If you got a guy that's so green doesn't have any feedback, wow He's a cup driver But I mean how many

I hear your devil's advocate How many tire tests has he done? But he's a guy that's He's a cup driver. How many different tires is he raced on? This guy isn't a Hickrey motor speedway driver, but you can't go to him and be like, hey, remember that Darlington tire you ran on last year? You know, remember that one you ran on two years ago of this?

And, you know, these drivers remember how things feel. Oh, yeah. So you can go to these guys and, you know, it moves around a little too much, stuff like that. So our drivers at the tire test, they're the reason why we had such good tires. That's it. I don't know why. We got to wear them out. You got to be able to wear them out.

So, no, you shouldn't. I think there's deeper problems at Kentucky. What are they? Yeah, what are they? You said it on the show last week, and I turned on the TV. I turned it on us. What are they? I turned the TV on. I turned on the TV for Kentucky for the Xfinity Series race, and I'm watching the race,

and I'm just looking at that light gray racetrack, and one black groove in it. And the first thing I thought of was my man here with the Gamecox hat on, and what he said, and I was like, damn, he was really right. I'm not sitting here kissing your butt. I don't even remember, so I'm just glad you're... It bothered me. Well, because they used the tire dragon in the groove. And I was looking at all that real estate at the top.

You talk about tires falling off, that's important too. But I think the racing suffered at Kentucky, ding, ding, ding, because of that primary. It was, there was more grooves than normally it was. Guess when they started run the tire dragon higher? After the Xfinity race. Yeah, that doesn't help. They ran it higher. And they only did it once.

We ran higher. If they did it earlier, they would have the trucks maybe run it up there, and the extended cars run up there, and the groove might have been worked in better. I will say that, I mean, this was the most, we had more grooves this time than we ever had. Like, you could watch it Larson, and you could roll it in three and roll up the top of the black.

They needed a start up there originally, and then slowly, you know, spend a day working that in, spend half a day working on the next line, and spend a quarter of a day working the bottom in, and then it'll naturally take care of itself. but then you got more grooves. I saw three cars capable of passing. The Truex, Larson, and at the end of the race, Amarola drove from outside of the top 10 to like seventh or eighth.

Outside of those three guys, man, we call Ligano and he'd get to the center of corner park that thing on the bottom. We could not do anything to get remotely close to his bumper. To move him, to catch him, to pass him, nothing. Like it was a very frustrating race from a competitor's standpoint. All right, off the wall topic. A ride share program in Finland. Finland, where's that? Yeah, Finland is offering this free program to passengers.

If they sing with the driver, the entire ride, they get a free ride. Would you rather sing in like your ride chair, like your Uber or whatever? Or ride awkwardly with that awkward conversation. You always have an Uber for free and pay. I'll sing. Jason, I'll give you a ride home if you sing the whole time. What would you sing, man? You'd sing?

That's a good song. Sure. Every rose has its dawn. Just like every night. What if you don't know a song? Just like every cowboy sings a sad, sad song. Man, I'm telling you, I love to sing. Put me in an Uber.

I could Uber for free. Every weekend I got home from the racetrack, and I got like $16 in Uber's. So I could save $16 a weekend by singing. I mean, it's a money saver. Better than being awkward. What would you sing? So he's going to sing every rose has a song, and I ain't singing that.

But what would you sing? Sing whatever he played if it was free. I'm upset. That new Drake song. Can't go 50-50 with no hope. I'd be in my fields or whatever. All right, Shulte. Shelty, you're not in this conversation, but we're put you in it.

What's your song? What would you think? I like the Barney's song. I love you. Yep. Dylaner probably knows that one. I know what he'd sing. He'd sing, uh, cake.

Stick shifts and safety belts. Ah, man. I think if I had to pick a song that Jason was saying, I think it'd be something. I'd have to know it, though. Yeah, well, that thing could have to be, um, something very, um... I wonder where he's going to go with this one. I don't know, man. Like, it can't be bad.

Like, there's no rap or anything here. No, man, he's not rapping. It would be, uh, you don't, you don't, listen to any rap? I'll Sam Hunt rap. Oh, that guy's not a rapper. Country rap. I don't know what that guy is.

Country rap is crap. That's what I call. Like, it's country and rap. It's crap. Yeah. Who started that? Was it those damn big and rich guys? I don't know, man.

Bigger rich can be fun, but I'm sorry. The Cowboy Troy star country rap. Who started country rap? Done with it. Do you Florida, Georgia Line? No, they didn't start it. They didn't start it. This guy only knows everything three years ago.

Jeez. I'm not telling you. It's so current. It's so, uh... Jason, I'm worried about you. I am too. Thank you. You don't know a lot of key pieces of like history.

You got to go back. Did you know our country is founded 1776? Our first president was George Washington. Well, Ricky told me that after he won Daytona last year. Oh, yeah, that's right. Two-time World War champs. Back to back. Back to back, maybe.

Never lost a World War. Damn straight. Not going to. All right, hashtag Asked, DBC. Y'all got on and fired it up this week. I was even looking at that. to ask the CDC questions. Yeah, there's a lot of them. There are some good ones.

Lower that sheet, bud. I'm going to be TJ majors right here. Did TJ ever say what song he was going to sing with Uber? I would sing Annie. He's just said any. That's like the most generic answer. I wouldn't sing country song in there. I'm not, I don't know a bunch of, yeah, I don't know a bunch of that. What's your favorite song then to sing? Come on. Hales, Bales, ACDC. Sing out. Hells. That was good. Yeah. My son, actually, he's two, right? And he sings, for those, is about to rock, we salute you. Oh, yeah.

You know what Hell's Bell reminds me of? Maxim Overdrive. Yeah. Because it plays in that movie. Yeah. He ain't gonna know that one. He ain't gonna know that one. Shultz ain't gonna know that one.

All right, Ask DBC. Producer Jason Schultz has chosen a bunch of these questions and here they are. It says Casey, so should I read him in Casey's voice? Of course. Absolutely.

All right. I just wish you'd wear the yoga pants she had on from last week. You don't want me in yoga pants. I don't want to see him in yoga pants. That's disgusting. Yeah. My lord.

What were the Lulu Lemon? Oh, yeah. Yoga pants were the best thing ever invented. I'm telling nothing is better than yoga pants. I don't know what's better. The Lululemon pants are all short-short hair. How do you come up with that? With the crotch shots.

How do you come up with that name? What do you want to name our company? Lulu Lemon. I mean. That's a bad name. Yo-yo grape. I mean. What are you going to name your company?

Oh, yeah. I'll be, uh, you know. Lulumon. Oh, yeah. We're playing some popular music on the show today. Jason has no idea what this is. What is the eight seconds? Will they charge us if we play longer?

I should have picked a better eight seconds. Yeah, that's a terrible eight seconds, man. Tap on it and skip into a lot of stuff can help right. And slide it over, yeah. Yeah. All right, C. Moody asks, just play it. Yeah, just like, come on, sing it. T.J. sing it.

I don't know where I'm at. Oh, I do know that. I love that song. It's a friend of mine. It's a great song. Come on, man. He won't even sing here. He'd never sing in an Uber.

I got to be in the shower. Oh, that's a... We ain't going there. Wonderful. So in college, and I know there's a lot of college kids that listen to this show. Oh, it's just a ton, man. Because of millions of people listening. I love college.

But have a drink on me. Have you ever heard of that song? That's a great song. So have a drink on me that is a drinking game in college. And you have to drink. Every time they say have a drink on me, you have a drink. Yeah, every time they say have a drink on me, you have a drink

and you listen to the song twice and you're in Myrtle Beach jail that's what happens Isn't the other drinking song like Sweet Caroline or something you drink every time? I never play that one either or um

I don't need games to drink I just well that helps you gozzle faster No drinking games are fun Okay You ever play a B-I'm not a short track drinker That game that game That game

The card game The card game? Yeah Yeah I haven't played it a long time. You've never played it a long time. You've never played the game. A-S-S-hole.

A card game. No. Oh, you don't drink. Should you do with the great juice. All right. C. Moody asks, does a guy in non-competitive equipment hurt his career prospects by being a non-factor? We kind of talked about that, alluded to that with Jesse Little a little bit. Is it better to be competitive in a lower series with big teams?

It is. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you want to be a top 10 qualifier and a top 10 racer, and that's how you get attention and attention to get sponsors and sponsors get you a job. You know, if you're not capable of doing that, you're just not, it's kind of like the, I'm not going to say it because it's going to be offensive to people, but it's hard to be attractive if you're not attractive. It's hard to get noticed, and it happens.

It's hard to get noticed when you're taking a 25th place car and finishing, you know, even 16th with it or something like that, it's hard to get noticed doing that, even though it's a great, you know, if you're taking a 25th, 30th place car and you're finished near 15th, that's an accomplishment, but nobody sees it. It's hard to see. I think we saw that with Ryan Preece. I mean, he ran a full season in Johnny Davis's car. He got noticed within the, you know, the second half of the season. People noticed because he was taking a 30th place car and finishing. One thing that helped Ryan, though, is he was going out of that and still winning a bunch of races, though, too. so he was keeping his name in the headlines by leaving that. But then he was smart because then he took some money and went big into a winning car. That's what I would do.

If I would run five races really competitively, then I would 25, 18th. But that's a hard decision to make. Yeah. Because you want to be in it too. I mean, you just said it. What he spent with Johnny Davis bought him a full season. And then what he spent with Johnny Davis turnaround at JGR got him. four races. Like, wow. And TJ's exactly right. You've got to pick the four races over the 33

if you have an opportunity to win those four, which he came back and he did. And now he's still able to reap some of those benefits. I mean, he's got some races this year. He's still doing his thing, like TJ said, you know, winning modified races. But man, it's hard to be a kid and make the right decision there. It really is. And you're gambling on yourself, you know. Yeah, for sure. All right, Ask DBC question from J. Dublin. Jay White? Jay Dublin the building. I love these screen names right here.

He asks, other than the lack of wins and the exception of Chase Elliott, do you think that the youth movement's growth is slowed by the lack of sponsorship slash branding that appeals to youth? That's ludicrous. Yeah. I don't know. I think we got a lot of youth coming in. To me, I think there's more youth now than ever has been with, you know, Larson. You got, you got Byron in there now. We're starting, some of these guys are starting, you know, Bowman's not exactly old.

You know, he's young. The only thing someone out of the youth movement is the fact that they're not winning races. Yeah. This guy's asking if sponsorship and branding is slowing down their growth. No, I mean, NASCAR and their market. efforts are cramming youth down our throat, the media, you know, all they want to talk about on TV is how old somebody is. I don't ever hear, you know, when I watch other sports, they talk about how old this guy is

or how old it, like, man, stop talking about it. Stop making, I mean, Blaney said it best. Shut up, I'm sick of hearing it. He's a race car driver. He wants to win races. He's going to win races. And the only thing is slowing down the, quote, youth movement is the youth not winning. Go win.

You imagine one of them winning five, six races? That would skyrocket. Yeah, ridiculous. It's going to happen at something. It will. And it will. When's it going to happen? I think it's going to happen this year.

I don't know about five, six races, but I think a guy like, I think Chase Elliott, everybody thinks no right now, is going to be the Chevrolet that puts in a victory lane. I think Ryan Blaney's got to win in him this year. Ryan Blaney had a chance this week. Yeah, true ex.

The true ex had called in sick. He could have won. Ryan did a great job. He needed a good solid points day to really kind of bump him up above, you know, that playoff, deal is getting creeping up on people.

So he needed a good solid run and I helped him out a bunch. Yeah, we need to talk about playoff next week because I don't know the numbers, but it's got to be worth of discussion. It's coming up. I mean, it's tight. Yeah. All right. One last gas, DBC question.

Reckerfire asks, who are the top five trash talkers in the history of NASCAR? I think that's a pops boyer. They don't know pops. That's all right. Well, they mind. Are they talking driver? What did that show? Clint and they went out and rode with him.

Yeah. So they might. Racing roots. Yeah. So they might. He run into something too. Pops is funny. I love that guy.

He's one of my favorite people. I love when he texts me. He texts me, you know, during the race, like I could check my phone on a green flag run. I get him after the race. And I'm like, you know. You think I didn't know that? That one sentence that he says probably took. We should have got four tires right there.

We should have got no gas. We should have got it. Problem is it took him so long the type of that it was probably the next stop by the time he got on. Oh, let me take that brat. You think he does to talk to text like old people usually do? No, I bet he's sitting there one finger. That deep, Brett, oh. Huntington.

Yeah. Five trash talkers. Obviously, we got to speak to drivers. Yeah. Maybe drivers and crew chiefs. I mean, otherwise, nobody knows who these people are. But hands down, Darrell Walshp in the 80s. Jaws.

Like, who beats that guy? Yeah. Now, he wasn't that guy later in his career. But Darrell Walshap in the Mountain Duke car in the 80s, Jaws, number one guy. Yeah. Had to be. I mean, he, yeah, big time.

Rusty Wallace. He wasn't, he was, he only really did it when he was provoked, though. Like when he, when you, when you bumped him, he would talk. Yep. I don't know. I mean, he was pretty good. I'd say DW is really, really. So, Aaron Hart never talked trash, but if you talked up to him, he did with the car.

He'd either do it with the car or he'd say something real short because I remember in the past of the grass thing. I was an Elliott fan growing up. And when the passing the grass deal happened. and, you know, Bill kind of wand afterwards about it. And I was a Bill fan. You know, I just got a Bill Elliott hat, you know? Yeah. And then I heard Earnhardt just say something like,

and I'm not going to, I'm going to paraphrase. You know, you're trying to run into me. I ain't going to take it. Like that sort of thing. And I never forget. I never wore. I still have that Bill Elliott hat, and it's clean as a whistle. Has no sweat in it, no nothing, because that day,

I was like, I like that. I'm an Earnhardt fan. He didn't talk trash. Right. for the kind of like Ricky Stenhouse this week. Yeah. There was some trash talking going on right there. And Ricky Stenhouse, he didn't talk trash back.

He just said, why don't we come up and say it to me? Yeah, I think I remember Del Earnhardt, maybe at Michigan, they were in practice or somewhere and Rusty wrecked him. And he got out and choked him on TV. I mean, he got out, he literally got his hands on him and he was choking him. And I'm sure maybe there's footage. I don't know. But I remember watching that going, this guy's awesome. Like, don't talk.

Do it. Yeah. Don't threaten. Maybe a good time. What are the trash talkers in NASCAR? I don't know if we could name five here, but we can name at least top three the podium of trash talking. I feel like Kyle and Brad right now do a pretty good job of. Brad simmered down.

Well, you don't ever know what happened. You don't know if the owner got to him or a sponsor got to him or NASCAR got to him. Man, you get popped on the wrist a lot around here to anybody knows it. You know, you get. It's a shame because if him and Kyle would own that rivalry a little bit more like Rusty and Dale did a little bit and stuff like that. I mean, Denny Hamlin, you know, I think Denny Hamlin got fined $50,000. thousand dollars for a tweet and then spencer gallager tweets what he did two weeks ago like you don't ever know when you're yeah you know secret fines but the thing is yeah i mean i hate to say this

because as a as a fan of the sport and a person works in it i hate to hear this analogy but w w e makes a complete living off of trash talking yeah that's all they do they get in a ring and they dance around each other i mean yeah they're being physical but it's a routine when they get in that ring they make a living of entertaining you off trash talking you and it's all manufactured. Ours is not manufactured, and every time it gets really, really good, somebody calls somebody in and tells them, shut up.

Like, let it go, man. Let us do it. Like, who cares? I wish we had more of that, man. That's why I love this weekend. And like Kyle Petty kind of said, I alluded to it before, said NASCAR should intervene before it gets to,

like, a Kenseth-Logano situation. I disagree. Let the drivers govern this thing. If they want to run their mouths to each other, that's going to sell, tickets and put people in the grandstands, put viewers in front of the TV. Yep. And then if something happens after that, that goes past that point, crosses that line,

then you react to deal with it. I think Matt crossed the line, just knock, K-O. with somebody. Yeah, well, but, you know, I'm fine, you know, with him making. Are we going to preemptive deal with it, though? Come on. Just let it go. I honestly think right now in today's world,

the best trash talkers, Harvick. You know, you watch him. Good point. You watch him getting the top four at Homestead and try to verbally intimidate the guys he's sitting on stage with. And Harvick's a tougher dude, you know, like he was. Tony Stewart. He was a wrestler.

Tony was. Josh talker. But I think of the guys currently, you know, zipping up their suits and putting on his helmets. I'd say Harvick's probably the best at it. Yeah. Yeah. He does a good job at it.

He subliminally will screw with you. Yeah. I don't know how to spell that word, but I know I'd say it. Because I remember that, what you alluded to, to in the playoffs, you know, in that press conference and some of the quotes, you look at what Stewart did in that press conference before Homestead that year where he snuck in there and was one of those races and they'd get to Homestead. And he got, I'm sorry, he got in the other guy's heads, Carl Edwards and them, you know.

Yeah. And that's some trash talking right there. Yeah. I love it. Professor Brett, do you want to talk about your lucky dog? Lucky dog. This is New Hampshire, man. Sort of lucky dog started.

Remember that? Oh, yeah. So Dale Jarrett rocks off turn four. Bill Elliott's got the lead. Bill Elliott's like a round turn two. And back then we had a gentleman's agreement. When the yellow came out, the leader would fade out of the gas and he would kind of selectively let people back on the lead lap that were right behind him.

He had somebody right behind him that had a problem. And I don't remember who it was. But he had somebody right behind him and he didn't want them back on the lead lap. So he raced them all the way back around. And by the time that he got to start finish line, Dale Jarrett's car had been sitting there for 15 seconds. To the point that Del Jarrett would have had time to take his helmet off, take his steering wheel off, unbuckle, drop his winning net, and start to get out.

Obviously, if they come around there and that's happening and they have an accident, Dale's life is in jeopardy. So it was established at that moment on the front stretch of New Hampshire that we would no longer race back to the yellow. Yep. That we would establish a system that would, the yellow freezes the field and the first car, not on the lead lap, or I'm sorry, one lap down behind the lead. is the free pass. So we're going back to New Hampshire

where the free pass was born. And I would like to hear, I would love to see TV, interview Bill Elliott, interview the guy that was behind him, interview Dale Jarrett, and just talk about the product. Because that's a cool,

that's a big moment in our sport when the racing back to the yellow went away. Because the yellow come out on the last lap, guess what you did? You raced home. We don't do that anymore. So I think it's worth at least a discussion for these new fans

that don't necessarily know how we got here. I love it. I mean, it's definitely safer. But it was, I saw a replay of a race and there was some wrecks. And guys were still in a throttle. I'm like, man, look at these guys. They're racing. It looks weird to see if you go back and look at it now.

It looks weird to see guys still in the throttle coming back to the line. But as a spotter, if TJ's leading the race. Yeah. And I'm two laps down or one lap down and I'm three cars behind him. When the caution would come out, I would literally sprint to TJ and be beaten on his shoulder going, please let me have my lap back. Please let me. And so, and then T.J.'s keying up going, hey, Brett's down here.

Clint wants his lap back. He's three behind you. So that guy dictated how many people got their lap back. And you'd see them race hard, race hard, race hard to start finish. They slam on brakes and let just one guy go. Their buddy. You know what I mean? Like it was a lot.

Safety-wise, though, was the main reason that rule was. And it's probably, it's definitely for the better in that department. Yeah. I agree. We can release. safety workers to the scene quicker. Way faster.

Yeah. Yeah. It was a great rule change. But New Hampshire, I don't remember the year. I'm going to say like 02, 03, 04. I think Dale Jarrett was in the

UPS number 44 car. No, he was in 88. Was it the 88? Yeah, he was in 80s. Because Bill Elliott was still racing. Okay. Bill Elliott was in a Dodge. Okay.

He was in the, obviously, in the number nine Dodge. But I'm going to say like 0304 maybe. What I think it was the 84? That was, was that Ruderman? Yeah, it was a UPS 4. Yeah, it was a unit, Ruderman and UPS car. Yeah, after Dale retired. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. Are you all have anything to rant about, man? No. I don't have to rant. I'm too. No, I'm just happy. He looks like he's going to go to sleep on that couch. I am.

I'm down on sleep. He's been up all night babysit. My have been. All right. DBC picks. Let's kick it. Newman. So you pick first?

Yeah. This week. Who won last week? Brett one. Brett one again. Brett won with who. Let's, Jason. Brett won with Paul Menard over.

Oh, Monarchs. A good one. Yeah. Bowman. Yeah, Bowman. The showman wasn't a showman. I'll tell you what, man. If there's anywhere that I'm going to pick Alex Bowman, it's going to be a flat track because I think that kid is a good racer.

It seems like those guys that come out of that dirt stuff. He drives it on the right rear a lot. I got Alex Bowman. And, you know, one of his first cup races in that 88 car. Yeah. Not before that when he was in Tommy stuff and all that. He ran good there. He ran pretty well.

I spot it for him. Or something at New Hampshire, yeah. I think he's my guy. I think he wins, and I went five in a row, and I think I'm getting ready to run away with this. It's going to get ugly. TJ's got nobody left. Well, AJ hoes me pretty big in Sonoma.

That was not a good one. And I picked Menard, Daytona, and we all saw how that ended. So, bye-bye. I think you're paying some of these guys. I am. I'm sliding them. Is there a trophy? No, there's nothing.

Shulte, man, you can even come up with a trophy. There's free breakfast or something. Yeah, there's like, free breakfast? There's like free thank you to this guy for doing this workforce. Yeah, he makes it fun. Who you got? Here he said Newman. He said Newman?

What are you doing? You said what you pick first? Stephen's going to go run on dirt on Wednesday night. He's going to probably run the modified. I don't know. Run the modified. Yeah, I don't know. Putting him or Bono's car there?

Maybe. I don't know if he is or not. I mean, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, we would have not been able to wait this long to pick Ryan Newman. Like we would have been all over him at Charlotte, Atlanta, any mile and a half. We would have said, this guy's going to sit on the pole and lead. Like he was, he was the man for a long time. This is one of the places where they were running, they started figuring out they were running that huge spring in the right rear. Remember that? It was like a thousand pound right rear spring. They were running. This is like 2,000, what,

three, fourish, two-ish? Yeah. Two, three, four or somewhere now. We're going to see a good race this weekend. New Hampshire. We're putting grip. Remember, you know, we were trying to get rid of grip all the time. Now we're putting the grip back on the racetrack and more rubber with a... I don't know. It's hard to pass. See me antagonizing? Did you like that? It's really hard to pass.

I can't hear you. It's hard to pass. You know, it's a track position game. I don't, we said last year on the show, leave the track surfaces alone. I kind of missed the hunting the bottom thing. You go in there and a guy runs you down a little bit and you kind of got to work them off the bottom. Now you've got to work them out of the grip up top. Like you have, you have naturally what we're looking for already.

We don't need to, you. If a guy's faster, it needs the bottom, he's got two choices to make. He's going to sit there and follow you or he's going to try to make it interesting, you know, and get around you. We don't need the grip, in my opinion, up higher. We don't need it up there. The modified race, phenomenal. No, nothing for that, you know.

And the problem is it actually hurts the modified race. If you ask those guys, you're taking this. It killed it at Bristol. It made an awful race at Bristol. You're taking, to me, Loudon was a pretty good. It was a big short track. Yeah. because you had to hunt the bottom and you had a guys are using the apron to turn.

Yeah. When you have to get down and hook the apron and turn, man, that's a short track to me. Yeah. So this is, you kind of took that away from now you're forcing us to find the edge of the grip up there and where the spray stuff is. And, you know, and who knows maybe, you know, Johnny grip sprayers. Maybe he doesn't a wave or something and you hit the grip. Johnny grips. I don't know.

I don't put baby powder down. Heck, yeah. We remember we used to do that go-cart tracks all the time. Put baby powder out there, man. Heck yeah. Let's find out who can drive these things. Jimmy Johnson and Kyle Larson, to the front. I just think it'd be.

I miss the kind of going in there and trying to work a guy off the bottom. Like, you get to turn three, and then we get lower and lower and lower. And it's like pedaling and braking, pedaling. And then you're trying to tell you your driver like, okay, this guy's running the bottom. Okay, he's hooking the apron, you know, middle of the corner. Then it's like, he's hooking the apron of the 25% mark. You're like, good gosh. You know, guys, you know, short-track guy, seem to rise there.

Yeah, I like that type. I can't wait to eat the lobster. Lobster? Yeah, I don't eat seafood. No Hampshire. You don't eat seafood? What's wrong with you? It's not normal.

Really? Don't any seafood. Don't like it. Fish sticks with ketchup. Oh, wait. That's got to be healthy. I haven't had one in like 25 years. But you'll eat a fish stick?

That's seafood. A damn fish stick? You don't eat lobster? I will eat like crab and lot. You got dip in water. So you eat seafood. You got dipped out. butter, but I'm not going to sit there and be like, oh, man, I can't wait there to get there.

Have you ever had a lobster mack and cheese? It's so funny to hear like South Carolina doing it. I have had lobster mac and cheese and that's fine. There's a restaurant called O. It's downtown Kakit, which we call Concord. And then there's another one up there near the one of the lakes. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. It has steak and lobster mac and cheese.

That sounds right, yeah. It is amazing. Low calorie, low fat. Oh, yeah, all that butter, whatever. Get you a nan tuck it pie. Yeah. I'm going to go to 99 and get the buffalo chicken rat. Are you going to miss going to Bergkangor or something like Donald?

99, man, the restaurant. Do you think, do you think when we get to Vegas for the first race of the chase that we're going to wish we were in New Hampshire? Because it's going to be a million degrees. It's going to be 120 degrees. Hell, probably. Hell on earth. Yeah, we'll probably be there.

Probably be wishing. The hottest race so far. has been Chicago. Yeah. It was brutal. Yeah, Kentucky was pretty warm during the day. Night race was awesome. I got to say this to our schedules right now, they're killing it.

Like, we used to be on the roof at Kentucky 14 hours a day. And now you look back and you go, why? This schedule in Kentucky was great. And you look at the schedules and I'm sure fans are going, why are they practicing less? Well, let me tell you what. We don't need to practice. Yeah, that's great for the sport. Because here's what happens.

People go, well, they need to practice. Well, we're not changing sway bars and we're not changing springs. All the things that made us need more time to do during practice, we're not doing because the engineering and the Sims are so good. We show up really close to what we're going to race. We're making very small changes, and all we're really doing is trying to get the damn splitter right. Once we get that right, we're good.

So we don't need five hours of practice to do that. We need, just like we had, I saw the Darlington schedule come out. Friday is Xfinity practice for an hour, cup practice for an hour, Xfinity for an hour, exfinity for an hour, cup for an hour. That's it. That's perfect. The next day, Saturday, we qualify both series from running an Xfinity race. That's awesome.

Next day, Sunday, we run the race. So, like, you're literally doing exactly what you need to do for fans in that area. Come watch practice. Come watch qualifying and a race. Come watch the race. And we are not out there 14 hours a day. It's good for our sport, I think. Yeah.

I want single car qualifying back, but probably not. I tell you what, we'll do singer car qualifying when they build us a shade on the spotter stand. And on that note, thanks. Thanks one main financial For bringing this show And I appreciate Casey Hames For not being able to show up again So I could sit with these two

They pay you extra for this? Oh heck no man Company car You get a company car to this I do Yeah a company car Like a matchbox car Del Jr.

Owned company car And Kathy over there Gave me a car for Hudson A matchbox car If you're talking about that Doesn't Dale Jr. I own a dealership? I don't have a Chevrolet

I don't have one He's got a dealership at his house Can he give you a company car? I need like a minivam or something. I know I'm the only man alive that wants a minivan, but I got kids,

man, actually. You're the only man. Yeah, I got kids. I want a minivan. My wife doesn't want it, but I want it. I tweeted this weekend.

I was sitting there. We were leaving dinner, and I watch all these guys piling this minivan. We're like a bunch of idiots. We're 10 guys getting in a little Honda minivan. Who are you guys? That weren't for seatbelt works.

Oh, yeah. I don't know. A few of them have to have been left behind. We're not going to be able to go. We're not going to be able to take this van. My seatbelt's not working. All right. Any of the seatbelt.

Safety Sam. There comes safety, Sam. Guys, there's no rear view. We're not leaving. Yeah, I can't see out of the back. I can't see. I can't see. Now.

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