Door Bumper Clear - 108 - Ticket to Bradland

Episode Date: July 23, 2018

Matthew Dillner joins Brett and Jason to discuss Kevin Harvick’s bump and run, the financial gap between big and small teams, a chaotic ROVAL test, more dirt track races, being a millionaire for 10 minutes and more.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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This is Doorbumper Clear, brought to you by OneMay Financial. I've got nobody in studio that's on our show normally. Oh, I thought you're going to call me a nobody. Well, I got Jason. I'm here. Jason's here. Thank God somebody's committed to this other than me and him. But we do have Super Sub.

If you notice, the couch is tilted a little bit this way. Why? You're going to keep on coming closer to me because I'm heavier than TJ. So if you and I got on my pontoon boat, we could. and sit on the same side. Oh, hell no, dude. I'm going to sit in the middle. I'm going to sit in the front, so it balances the engine weight.

That's the hardest thing about having a pontoon boat is, you know, I'm a 200-pound guy, 220, if I'm being honest. And so by the time I sit down, everybody else wants to sit on the left side. And all my buddies are big guys, too. And it's like, we ride the boat like this, you know, tilt it over. But Matthew Dillner here, spotter of nobody. I'm just racing genius, though. I don't know about genius, man.

but I'm T.J. Major's fat cousin. So, what you, I saw you in, uh, at the race track this weekend. Yeah, man.

Welcome back. What were you doing? It was good to be back at the race track. My home, well, it's not the closest place to my home where I grew up, Long Island, New York,

but New Hampshire is basically what I consider my home cup track, man. Uh, I know security guards names there, you know, just, you know, growing up, modified racing,

going through that pit area. It's like family. And that's, that's, that's my people. Yeah, well, that's the mod community. Yeah. And mods are big on Long Island.

I even got to hang out with spotters this week because I don't get to, I mean, I don't see you guys anymore. And I got to go out with Freddie Craft. We had a strategy. Oh, you went out with Freddie? Yeah, and Freddie was responsible. I was so proud of him. He was so responsible. Yeah.

We didn't do, you know, don't beverages. We went out, and I said, here's a deal. If we go out, we're going to get this race in. Because we're going out. Right. So let's take one for the team. You know, I didn't get as much sleep as I needed. Yeah, yeah.

But we took it for a team. You're welcome industry. Yeah. We got the racing. Got the race in. So there's an old wise tale that if we have 100% chance of rain, which we did, we're not going to get the race in. If everybody goes out and parties hard and we all feel like crap the next day. Yeah.

The race will be. For some reason you get to race. So thanks for doing your part. Hey, you're welcome. I'd take one for the team. And not getting enough sleep so the rest of us could come home. I think I got home like 1 a.m., which was way better than still being there today because it was supposed to rain out day to day. There was a point yesterday, Schulte, where it literally looked

like there is no way, and I've been up there since the 90s, the early 90s, there's no way we're getting this race in. Zero chance. And I was even behind closed doors in the hallway, kind of in on the meeting with Helton and Hoots and all of them. And at one point, they had said, okay, man, we got a 35, 45, 45 minute window here. And if it doesn't change within this period of time, we're going to have to make our call. So it was that close and all the sudden. But let me ask you something. It cleared up.

Why can't they just communicate that to somebody? We're all hanging on something and we're really hanging on nothing because what comes out from a communication standpoint during the rain process is officially nothing. I unofficially got word that we had to take the green by 530, which means mathematically. And we all figured that out. It had to have stopped raining by 40. four. Yeah.

Because we can dry it in an hour and a half. Yeah. So we all were kind of looking at that four o'clock thing. Then all of a sudden at three it stops raining. And it's like, oh, finally a window. Boom. And the Titans did their job. They're amazing.

I'm not going to say, you know, I used to work for NASCAR, so I used to have to tow the company line. So I'm careful, used to be careful about what I say. I'm, this might sound like a company line, but I was in race control before Hoot and Helton that were up there and watching the, the process just because I was interested. Yeah. You know, seeing how Mike and those guys take care of it.

And I just wanted, because I was in the booth with Dale most of the weekend, behind the scenes. And it was great to go up there and see those guys, but man, I got a peek behind the curtain on all the things that they're doing and the planning for when it does start to dwindle off rain-wise. I didn't know there was as much going on involved in how they had to actually plan that. Oh, yeah. And it was an eye-opener a little bit. Yeah. I mean, I got two or three guys that are dedicated.

just to the drying process methodically. Yeah. And they had a plan. Like as soon as it stops, there was like 10 moving parts of how they were going to do it. And it was really interesting. And it works. It works wonders. Thank goodness.

I got to get to the airport, so we're going to jump right into this show. Come on, spot on, spot off, man. Spob and I'm going to tell you what's wrong with you? Spit on, spit it off. You went to Clemson and now you've dumped down to where you can't even speak English. The first thing that happens in this show after you've been to Clemson is you can't even talk. I lost my education. So congratulations on dumbing down your own IQ just by stopping in that town.

But they're crazy buildings. It's awesome down there. There is a really good hooters there, though. The most awesome thing about Clemson is leaving it. I like their colors, man. Orange? Yeah, I'm a New York Islander's guy, man. Orange blue.

Man, I don't even let my kids wear orange of Halloween. Nice hat, by the way. We don't even have orange pumpkins. Nice hat, by the way. You have red pumpkins. Go Cox. Hey, football season, man. It's close.

college football season is like a month away. They're starting camp now. That's because you're from the northeast and all your college football programs suck. We're in the south now, Dylan, or you're in the south. I'm a Tar Hill guy, so that's why I'm into basketball and baseball. You got to go to basketball because Fedora just pissed the whole world off with what he said about concussions, bless his heart. But anyway, sorry.

Did you see Tillman Hall? I'm not sure. It's a real tall point thingy looking building. Maybe. We just walked by the football stadium. They went to their like training. facility. I want a talent competition there in probably like 1991. I want $250 and I went and bought the world's first Nintendo or the world's first Sega, whatever was, whatever was brand new that

year. Like that's, I took all my money. My mom's like, what are you going to do his money. I was like, I'm going to buy a video game system is what I'm doing with this money. And I did. I didn't, I didn't have enough money by a video game. So she had to buy another competition. I had one. But the only thing that good to ever come out of Clemson is leaving. Trust me. No, it was good. I liked it. Sucks. I might go there if I had to go to a different school. You can fire him.

I mean, it is door bumper clear. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, I told him on the Twitter. I said, you better enjoy this show. I didn't tell him, it might be your last. I think everybody else figured that out. Come on, fearless leader. There's no Casey. I know.

You're just going to be red head Casey. Yep. Red head Casey. All right, spot on, spot off. Harvick pushes Kyle Busch out of the way with seven laps to go. It's for the win. Spot on. I mean, you know, when, when I look at racing and I look at rivalries and I look at

what built the sport in the 80s to make it what it is today. It was guys like this that won at all cost. And he didn't wreck him. This is the famous bump and run that everybody talks about. The fact that it was Kyle Busch probably makes it a lot more popular among people who don't like Kyle Busch because Kyle's one of those guys that you either love him or you hate. Or you hate him. There's no in between ground, you know.

So I think that all the Kyle Busch fans are probably irate and he has a lot of fans. Cobbush has a ton of fans. But he has either fans or... Yes. So the guys that love him right now are hating on Harvick. And I think it's great for the sport because the two guys, you know, we've got three guys winning a lot of races. And there's a lot of positives from that.

You know, when you look back at the 80s and 90s, this is where heroes are made by winning a lot of races. This is where champions are made. All three of these guys are champions. It's where Hall of Famers are made. These guys are going to be Hall of Famers. Like, we couldn't be in a better error for this. these three guys to be going at it like they are,

and to have them running, you know, one, two, four, and moving each other out of the way. Like, that's what we need to build up hype going into this playoff. And there are two guys in particular that don't mind getting in dustups. Yes. Which could provide sparks in the playoffs. I say spot on because of the fact that he did not dump him. I do not like the dump and run.

I do not mind the bump and run. But you have to know when you do a bump and run, it might come back to get you. and it might not come back that race. It might come back three races from now or it might come back in the playoffs. And with a guy like Kyle Busch, he handled that with grace afterwards.

It can come back the next corner. But he's not going to forget. He's not going to forget. It could have happened the next corner, the payback. But the way that PJ1 is aligned is Harvick knew I got to move him out of this PJ1. Once he's out of the PJ1, I won't see him the rest of the race unless there's a caution,

obviously. He got him up. He got him out of the groove. And then once you're off the PJ1, it's lights out and Harvick went on to win a race. So Harvick didn't have the best car. He had a top three car. I think Amarola had the best car.

But Harvick did what Harvick's been doing. He went and won another race. Spot on, spot off. Now headed towards the playoffs. Bowman has the last spot in. Stenhouse is the first one out on the grid with six races to go before Vegas. Oh, I'd say spot on.

You know, Bowman. Bowman and the Chevolets, they're just really struggling right now. Chase was the only Chevrolet that really showed anything in this race. And Ricky Stenhouse just had a god-awful day again. And I don't know, the momentum swing there. I think we're going to see it tips, like tip up and tip down and wherever it falls going into the last race is whoever's going to get that spot.

Unless we see one of them rattled off a win, I don't think that's going to happen. Man, I tell you what, just looking at the standings that Jason's put in front of us. I've got Jimmy Johnson 14th, Chase Elliott, 15th, Alex Bowman, 16th. William Byron, nowhere to be found. This is Hendrick Motorsports. This is shocking to me. I would have never said this would be the way it would be, you know, with this many races into the season and only a few to make it.

I really think Ricky Stenhouse should be in this playoff, and he has single-handedly taken himself out because he's torn up so many cars in practice, torn up so many cars in the race. 28 points in a lot of points. There's a lot of places you can look at the track and go, we gave up 28 points just yesterday. So I think coming into this final stretch,

it's a lot of pressure on them guys. I mean, Paul Menard and Stenhouse and Bowman and Chase Elliott, that's the four guys that are really in jeopardy because it's really hard for Stenhouse or Minard to jump three or four guys, you know, just because of the way the thing works. It's easier to catch one or two, hard to catch four or five. So I think Amarola is running fast enough and got a big enough point cushion there that we don't have to worry about him. But here's the thing for Alex Bowman.

Should Paul Menard or Ryan Newman or Suarez or somebody pull out a win, guess who's the first guy out, Alex Bowman? Happened to me last year. You know, they're very fortunate these guys are that some underdogs and guys outside of the top 15 or 16 aren't winning races. It only takes one or two things to happen. And we got tracks coming up where that can happen. Pocono, Wackens, Glenn, Indy, a lot of places where a fuel mileage can come into play. and pit strategy. So, man, Alex Bowman better not be sleeping.

He better be trying to win races. Spot on, spot off. David Reagan had some interesting comments last week. He said that the gap has grown between the have and have-not teams in NASCAR. Brett. I'm spot on for a lot of things he said in that article. I'm pretty spot off on the fact that he says the gap has grown. I don't see the gap growing anymore than it already was.

No, I mean, I think you have. I think you've always had, you know, the open trailer team versus the closed trailer team. And I think we've got, I mean, look at it, man, like if Hendrick Motorsports were winning all these races with their four guys, I think we would say we have a gap problem. And when I say, all right, we've got, you know, three guys winning a lot of races, well, guess what? Those three guys are on three different teams. So we've always had the well-funded teams and the underfunded teams. And there's always going to be a gap. So I don't know what he means by the gap has gotten greater.

These underfunded teams have the opportunity now, and they didn't have this when I got here. Nobody was trying to help anybody when I got into this sport. Your team was your team. There were no alliances. ECR wasn't in place yet. Ford Robert Yates, Rouse Yates' engines was not in place yet. These smaller teams have the opportunity to go out now and have an alliance. It's like we're watching the show Survivor, and it's like, who are you going to align with?

Well, guess who align with the best team? Who's got the best alliance of those other teams? It's Furniture Row, and it's with Joe Gibbs Racing. So when you look at these alliances that are with teams that are not doing as well, it's like, hey, you better check your alliance. You know what I mean? So I'm spot off for, literally, he said a lot of great things in the article. Gave some good quotes, but I think the Gap's always going to be the gap.

I don't think it's got any bigger. I say spot on, and I do agree with him about the gap, getting a little bigger. I look at a once mighty team like Roush Fenway falling to almost that mediocrity and below at times type team with the exception of Stenhouse being a little bit of their gold star at times. And so I see the difference. You know, I see Penske and, you know, this is a weird year for Hendrick, but I see those teams getting stronger. So you think Roush. I think Roush is almost a mediocre team. You think Roush is a have-not team.

Not a have-not team as far as resources. What do they not have? They have the best engines in the garage, some of the best engines. True. So there's one equation. Okay, so you got to have engines, you got to have a car, and you got to have a driver. I think personnel strategy at the shop, they still are suffering. But that's...

But they've become a have-not. But that have-not is because of leadership. that's not because of like have have not to me means i have something and you don't rouse rouse has to me all the resources they have a ford deal that's huge yep i mean big 14 right they're three big four teams pinsky roush and obviously stewart hoss so big big manufacturer deal great engine deal they have the resources in the shop and they have the drivers they got matt kenseth they got rickie stin house who are the have-nots right now then i think it's guys like David Reagan's team, you know, and it's just, I think the have-nots or the under-row.

Who else? I think it's the underfunded teams. But you don't see them getting, this is a great debate, actually. You don't see them getting a little bit worse over the last few years? The slower teams? Yeah. The only place they've ever had a chance to enter play tracks, or field mileage. I mean, we watched Bush or win a couple, three years ago on a few miles still at Pocono.

That's a have-nought team. That's Cinderella. That's his mom. Yeah. You know, we see that once every three or four years. David Reagan, who the article was written about it, Talladega. What's in a plate track? I think that gap has always been there, man.

I mean, I hate to say this because I love these guys, and I started in a sport with them. But when I got to the Wood Brothers, they were a have-nought team. Yeah. They didn't have any. They didn't have the lines they have now. They were in Stewart, Virginia. Yep. They had 30 employees.

They were racing against teams that had 100. Their revenue was half of what Yates was. It was half of what Roush was, per car, not per organization, per car. So when I got there, I was like, man, this is the Wood Brothers. Like I've been a fan my whole life. And, you know, no Glenwood, Leonardwood, Eddie Wood, Lynnwood, Kim Hall. Like, I'm like, this is amazing. Like, wow, they're really understaffed.

They don't have engineering. They don't have a good engine deal. And we missed Talladega. We missed Talladega. And after that, they went, okay, we got to step up our resources. So the have-not team had to put more. money into the racing program to get back to where they are today. These guys went from being the Wood Brothers to being a part-time team.

And now the Wood Brothers brand is back. You know, they want to race with Blaney two years ago. So Paul Menard's been in contention. Paul Menards, he's got to finish races. He can't do it. But, but doing our guess for me, the have not team is a money issue. I don't see it as a competition issue because, I mean, we could look at, like you said, Roush is a have not.

Rouse has, they just aren't doing the right thing of what they have, in my opinion. Spot on, spot off, multiple spins and crashes at the Roval test over the last two weeks. Man, TJ and I wish TJ was not babysitting today and was here with us, but we recorded a different time because our boss Till Jr. took our slot. I'm not sure how that ended up playing out, but we weren't involved in the comment. We were violent told what we were going to do. I know how one thing turned out, and that was that damn test. usually tests aren't very exciting. Yeah.

So the test... But that was... The test at the roble. Here's the best thing about the roble for the fans is you can get a seat and be able to see the entire track. You are going extremely fast. I was wondering that. You can, man.

I mean, I'm telling you... So there's no real big dips and stuff where you can. If you get in the top ten rows of that place, you're going to be able to see the entire track, which for a road course is very unique. There's a lot of things. I wish they'd change about it. way too much for me to get into at this point in the show.

But the thing for the drivers is they're going really, really fast everywhere. And I think that's going to be a challenge because there's no real runoff area. You're going really fast. You make a mistake. That mistake means you're going to hit something. Okay. The most challenging part of the track, though, for me, is turn one. And it's really weird because it's like they come into turn one and they take a hard left.

And it literally looks like they're driving through a tunnel. That's how narrow it is. Well, our restarts, we're going to come to the green on the over. So we're going to be going faster entering turn one on restarts than we are when we're actually in the race because there's a big chican right before turn one when you're running the road course. We don't take the green on the road course. We take the green on the oval. So your speeds are going to be higher going into the most treacherous corner on the course. And it's only one lane when you get there.

It's going to be a demo derby late after these guys. I would think they're going to tiptoe through this. And I know these cup guys are going to be watching the Xfinity guys the day before. How do they bounce this? My only real issue, though, with the track is if you have a crash and they hit those tire barriers, it's going to take an hour to clean it up. Yeah, we saw when William Byron hit that barrier going into that first turn. He lost his brakes. It gave me concerns.

Yes. It gave me concerns as a guy that's been in the sport a long time. Yes, there was barriers and it absorbed impact. But I didn't like the angle of that wall personally. I didn't like that situation. If somebody hangs a throttle right there, I don't like how that looks. And maybe that comes from watching a Pocono race of champions modified race

where we ran the three-quarter mile oval there. Okay, and it went into pit road and behind that big building and all that stuff. And the last year there, for some reason, instead of having the big water barrels and whatnot, they put a wall straight across there. Dom Pratt buried it in there, throttle hung, gone. Yeah. Gone. Lost on Pratt.

A little while later in the race, your buddy, spotter, Eddie to hunt. Same thing. Parano hung. Boom. Right in there, we thought he was gone. He survived. That right there, when I saw that wreck, it just reminded me of that. And thank God there's absorption there.

I'm not a big fan of it still. Yeah. So the big problem area is for you fans when you're watching this race, turn three. Guys were wrecking on their office. Well, it's kind of off camber. Is it a little? No, turn three is not. So my turn six is.

Turn six kind of is like the cars want to roll over. And you don't really see Rex there. I saw Amarola kind of run off the track. But you're just lacking grip and your car sliding. And you'll see them as they come over that hill, crest of that hill. But turn three is a flat out struggle corner. I've always said turn one at Watkins Glen is the most difficult corner in NASCAR. We see more single car crashes there than any other corner of anywhere we go.

Those guys get into one. It's a downhill breaking corner. They will hop. They crash. There's now runoff so they can kind of get their car back fired up and get going, but the way this track is configured, there's a lot of tire barriers, and when you hit tire barriers, it's a mess. So I don't know how they bound those tires together, but they got really, in my opinion, go rethink that, because we don't need one hour cleanups for every crash.

No. It'll be crazy. But expect a lot of wrecks. All right. Let's take a break. Hey, Matthew, do you know one main is going to run their 2018? One main speedway sweepstakes? Dude, I would love to enter that thing. I'll tell you what. It's pretty cool. Actually, the winners, they're going to be flown to Charlotte, North Carolina, right here, beautiful North Carolina for the Roval race that we were just talking about. Action pack, you're going to see a bunch of wrecks. It's going to be nuts. I'm at Charlotte Motor Speedway beginning Friday, September 28th.

It's going to be the bomb. You're not eligible. I know I'm not. You can't enter, but everybody that's listening can enter. And everybody that's listening is millions of people. So your odds of winning are going to be high because I think we got more than one winner for this thing. But here's what you won't believe is you get to,

do a lot of cool things. What do they win? Well, the biggest thing they're going to win is they get to meet Dell Jr. And Elliot Sadler? That's a big deal. And Brett Griffin? I'm not really a lot. So there's a good chance.

You're going to get a lot of cool swag. But the coolest thing you're going to get, other than meeting Dell Jr. What would be the only thing you would want to do other than meet Dale Jr? I think ride along in a race car. No joke. The Grand Prize winner gets to ride with him in a race car. And you're going to get VIP treatment. Okay, this part I heard about. Shultz filled me in on this. You're going to get

VIP treatment at this race. If you are the sweepstakes winner, they're going to like trim your toenails for you, pedicure up on the pit box. I mean, I'm telling you this is like, you are going to be treated like gold. No, I don't want to buy cut my toenails. I don't like you about. You're showing your toenails right now. I know, but don't touch my toes. I'm a, uh-uh. But that ride along with Ellen Harr Jr., that's absolutely awesome. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing better in the sport. How many people can say they can do that? There's not many other people in the sport that can actually say there's a lot of ways to go riding race cars,

but there's not ways to ride and race cars with Dale Jr. Hey, you're going to win this contest? You're going to get to play catch with Tom Brady. Yeah, it's a big deal. Boom. That's a different contest. This contest is with Dale Jr. and Elliott. Yeah, but that's the equivalent.

Yeah. That's a good thing we're racing. I don't want to throw a ball with Dale Jr. How can enter, Brett. To enter, go to OMF.com, backslash, Speedway, sweeps, and complete the online form. entries will be accepted through August 24th. And remember, there's no purchase necessary.

That's the coolest part to enter to win. You don't have to buy anything. Avoid where prohibited. Subject to official rules at one-manracing.com slash official dash rules. You must be 21 to enter, which means Jason Schultz, you are out. I'm out, Canada. You're out.

Bye-bye. This is your Exalta Race Center update on Matthew Dillner. Wednesday night, NASCAR's truck series, got into a dust up at Eldora Speedway for the annual Dirt Derby. In a finish for the ages, Grant N-Finger and Chase Briscoe leaned on each other the entire last lap and crossed the line in a photo finish with Chase Briscoe taking the big win. A dirt track ace was the driver who pulled the checkered flag out of the hat when the Xfinity series hit the track at the Magic Mile.

Christopher Bell grabbed the top spot at New Hampshire Motor Speedway, his second win in a row. Junior Motorsports top dog was the number seven of Justin Algear, who started at 7th and finish 7th. The headliner during New England NASCAR weekend was the Cup Series. After defeating Mother Nature, Kevin Harvick pushed his way by Kyle Bush to take his series leading sixth race of the season. This weekend, the Xfinity Series revisits Iowa Speedway on Saturday, while the trucks and cup duel at the tricky triangle, Pennsylvania's Pocono Raceway. The Junior Motorsports late models had a week off, but they're back in action on July 28th at North Carolina's Hickory Motor Speedway with drivers Jagger Jones and Sam Mayer.

This has been your Exalta Race Center update. Exalta is the official paint partner of NASCAR, developing, manufacturing, and supplying coatings to all types of vehicles and industrial applications. For more on Exaltta, please visit Exaltas.com. Let's go into Fastlane now where we're going to give Brett and Matthew a topic to discuss and each get 30 seconds to respond. First up, another thrilling Eldora Dirt Derby left fans calling for more dirt races in NASCAR.

Would you like to see a dirt race in the Cup or Xfinity series, Brett? No. I want to push you. I don't need 30 seconds, man. I just think that this is the truck series opportunity. It's their Indy 500. It's their Daytona 500. You know, it's their Kentucky Derby.

It makes that series have something special within the motorsports ranks and the NASCAR ranks. And I don't want to, that's the best thing. series has going for it, don't screw it up. Give the people what they want. That's what I say. You know, the truck series, it is their kind of special marquee event. But the people want it. Some of the racers want it.

I can't believe Kyle Larson didn't. I don't want to see a cup race there. I agree with Kyle Larson on that one. But I want to see an Xfinity Series race there. I want to see a double header there. And you know what? I want to see another dirt track. I was thinking about it the other day.

Lucasol Raceway out there in Wheatland, Missouri. That place, my nephew said, you can eat off the concourse floors. They're power wash. It's one of the most beautiful facilities and great racetracks in this country. And I think we should expand. Do a doubleheader at Aldora. And I think we should do one more dirt race.

The people want it. Your time's up. Give it to them. Give it to them. Your time's still up. Ding ding. The thing of the people want is cup drivers at this racetrack. We've done that.

We had prelude to the dream and it was a phenomenal event. Cup drivers have the opportunity to get in this truck race if they want to. Go find the fun. funding guys like Ryan Newman did it. So for me again, branding perspective, leave it alone. And listen, Tony Stewart may kick my ass because he's my boss. And I know he said he wants Xfinity Series there. And he engaged the people to do it, which I thought was badass. Big revenue model for him. I mean, he needs, the more racing, the better off he does. I've been to the dream there. You know, they run so many great dirt track races there, but just, man, NASCAR leave it alone.

Sorry, Matthew. I like you so much. Man, I really do. you, but I, oh, my God. I'm sorry. It's talking like you're a Clemson fan or something. No. Did you go to Clemson? I have been to Clemson, but not the class. It sounds like you.

I wouldn't have married a girl that went to Clemson. There's no way I would marry. I only have like two Clemson friends. I wouldn't marry a New York Rangers fan. Like if a woman was a New York Rangers fan of hockey. I mean, I feel like I'm shallow. I feel like, well, hearing you say that, I feel like that's really shallow. I don't care.

So I think that I think that I've now just. made myself because I'm not a double standard guy. Hey man, it's okay. You know you're shallow. You're not. I guess I'm shallow about it. But I mean, I couldn't imagine waking up and she'd be like, hey, the Clemson's a what? No, absolutely not.

Our interest, it'd be like voting for Hillary. I couldn't have married somebody that voted for Hillary. Same thing. Here we go again. Spike that needle. Brad Kislauski said he's an advocate for the most season long wins determining the champion. Do you want to see this happen? Matthew. I'm sorry. I don't know. Sometimes Brad is in Bradland. It's like Adventureland. It's Bradland. There's

damn carousels going on in his brain, roller coasters. I think he's a smart guy. He's a smart guy. Brad is a smart guy. He's a damn good racer. But dude, come on, man. No. Uh-uh. A champion is a damn champion. It's not just somebody that goes out there and gets checkered flags. I like the qualifications of a driver having to win and it benefiting him within the championship structure. But heck no. If you win the most races in today's model, it gives you a really good chance of being the champion. So I don't, I'm not for change again on the championship model. We have changed it so much over the last decade, the last 15 years. Like number one, we don't need change.

Number two, Bradland's really funny. Sorry, Brad. Let's go one. Would you buy a ticket? Ticket to what? Bradland? The Bradland, man. No.

It's got his big old head right there. You can drink Miller lights all. and spin around on rides and probably throw up all over the place like he did in Vegas in the championship weekend. Well, like, I think. I think Brad's a very methodical thinker. I don't think he gets on TV and says these things often. But he says some strange things.

I'm a candid dude. Like, I don't sit at home and think, well, I wonder when this happens, what I'm going to say? But I think guys like Brad go, what do I think about this? The dude wanted electric cars and NASCAR. And I think they go through this process and then he just blurts it out. And it's like. Like the electric cars. I remember seeing that.

I'm just like, I'm like looking off like into space. Like, did that really just happen? Well, that's like, and I've told Clint this before and Clint does not own a Tesla, but I was like, why are your peers buying Tesla's? And he's like, what? I was like, they get paid to race gas engine cars. They get paid millions of dollars. Why would you go buy and support an electric car? Because it's cool and it's hip and it's trendy and you're rich.

That'd be like Jesse James driving around in a freaking. moped. Yeah. Same thing. Same thing. I don't know. I'm like, what are we doing?

Anyway, sorry. Let's get out of Bradland. Go to Pocono. Pocono. Yeah. So Poconos produced a couple first-time winners over the last two years with Chris

Busher and 16 and Ryan Blaney and 17. Which driver are looking for their first win could most likely extend a streak on Sunday, Brett. Wow. That's a good question. Thank you.

So good. I don't have an answer. I'm going to pick the guy that we need to win out of the first-time winner group or 2B first-time winner group. And that's Chase Elliott. You know, I mean, of the Chevroletes, he and Larson have had the most speed. So he gives you the best opportunity of the bow-tie camp to get that first win. So I would pick, if all worlds were equal and Clint Boyer is not going to win this weekend, I would hope it would be Chase Elliott.

I think Chase Elliott or Alex Bowman would be the obvious choice for this one. But Chevrolet is just, I mean, I'm sorry. I love Chevrolet, but they're just not performing right now. Chase Elliott was the only one, and I think it's a place, it's hard to judge that, because here's a place at New Hampshire where you're off throttle so much. So it's a lot about chassis and handling and stuff, and I think they hit on something with that nine car. I mean, really, if you're going to look at it, maybe you'd look at a Daniel Swores. Yeah, he'd be a good call, but that's a tough one.

I'm done. All right. No more. Worth this ding. Yes. All right, let's head to the off the wall topic. A woman in Boston became a millionaire for 10 minutes when her bank accidentally deposited $1.1 million into our account. So if you had $1.1 million for 10 minutes, what would you spend it on?

If they give it to me and I spend it, do I owe it back to them in 10 minutes? Let's say you can spend it out whatever you want. But from her, like in this real life situation where the bank screwed up. They just took it back out of her account. I know, but if she had spent it that fast. Does she not have a million dollars? They said there was something illegal about spending money that's not yours in this article. She's so nice.

What an idiot. Who did this? If I had a million dollars. So if I had a million dollars, what would I spend it on at 10 minutes? Yeah. I only got 10 minutes. 10 minutes, man. That's a short time.

Like I have 10 minutes to spend it? Yeah. Well, hell, I only need 30 seconds. Just buy a house. Bam. Murtle Beach. Done. Murder Beach.

Murder Beach. Murder Beach. Done. Right on Intercoastal. I actually had to pull this up. I have a bucket list on my phone. And I keep it. I've done it for years.

And underneath it, I have... I bet there's like some weird shit on there. Dude, I'm the most narrow. I'm like, it's all racing. My wife picks on me about it. Race car. Yeah, it's like... Win it bummerger.

That's even... So I have something underneath it. Seriously, that says if I won the lotto, and you can look at it right here, the lottery, what I would do. So I'll just read off what I would do. So you have to do it really quick, man. So I might need your...

help on this. I'd invest in an orphanage, I'd jumpstart my Lost Speedways project, and I'd take care of my parents. Here's what I want to do. Number four on that one is I'd buy Bowman Gray Stadium. Here's what I want to do with your Lost Speedway project, and you're not going to like my idea, but I don't care because it's mine. I would like to take and have a reality. And when I say reality, I mean reality. I mean, no BS at all on and off the track. a reality show solely based on females racing at short tracks. And I would like to have five short tracks. I would like to run 10 races.

And I would like to have, because y'all know girls are meaner than boys. I have found that out by having two daughters. I did not know this in life. They're competitive. But by having two daughters, and I hope my daughters are sweet as I think they are. But girls are mean and hail.

So if I could have 20 and 15 of them be hot, of course you're going to go there. Because you need the wingman. I don't want to see them catfighting. I want to see them racing. I want to see them wrecking. I want to see the branding. So real housewives of racing.

Let's not say NASCAR. I don't want them to be married. I don't care if they're married. Real single women of racing. I don't care if they're married. So where is that? I'm glad that I thought you're going somewhere else from lost Bways. I don't want to be rich spoiled.

I want them to be I want them to be race car drive. And we got some race car drive. There's some women coming up that could... But hey, right now, if Danica wants to get in on this, great. We got Danica. She should be like the mom of the house mom. She's like a black widow. She eats her young.

We got Johanna Long. We got some experience. He'll bring back Patty Moise. Is she too old for this? Oh, Patty Moes. Put her in there. And here's the thing, though. Then I want to see these Haley Dugan or Degan.

Haley Degan. Haley Deggan. There's a few of them. Like, this could be fun. But I got to be rich. to pull this off. Yeah, man, because you're going to have to pay them all. Well, I got to go out and buy the airtime because no network's going to let me just sell

this and their face goes, I'm going to have to buy the 30-minute blocks. You'd be like the godfather of female race. So I buy 30-minute blocks and I go sell my own ads. Like, I need about $10 million to do this right. I mean, but Schultz. I didn't mean to steal your idea. No, man, I was glad. I thought you were going somewhere else with Lost Speedways and I'm so glad it was totally opposite.

Some sensitive about Los Speways. Would you let me do that? What? Would you let me do that? Let me. It has nothing to do with Lost Speedways. If we went to North Wilkesboro. Oh, yeah. I mean, it has nothing to do with Lost Speedways. I'm good.

All right. Lost Speedways is my baby, man. All right. Good. All right. Let's go and ask DBC where producer Jason has chosen a few. Hey, that's you. Yeah, I know.

Crazy. Oh, wow. A couple of us DBC questions. So first up from at underscore Johnny Thomas. With all the talk about schedules, do you think we'll see weekday cup races and double headers one day? I'd love to see weekday races, man. I've been saying for years when we make that West Coast swing, I would love to race Saturday, Wednesday, Sunday.

You know, run Vegas on Saturday, run Phoenix on Wednesday, run Fontana on Sunday, give us a day or so in between. We can do all these in two-day shows. I know that football is successful on Monday nights. I know that college football is successful on Thursday nights. So why are we not playing in this world a little bit? And I think TV has to take the lead for this to happen. and hopefully the right TV executive is listening today because I know they all listen to the show.

And hopefully they're listening and they're going, you know what, Brett's ideas could, we should do it. I mean, everybody thinks you're right. Double-headers weird. You know, if we do a double-hatter, I think Matthew agree with this, and now shut up. You got to shorten, like, it's got to be a hundred-mile race at Pokemon.

Like Twin-100. Twin-100s. I like that. That'd be phenomenal. And you pay half the points. So if you're worn this amount of points to the, you know, half the points for each side, so it's not like the Pocono weekend can completely destroy you.

Oh my God, that guy out there looks like a young, Norm Benning. Anyway, I saw a squirrel. Squirrel. What was the question again? Because I want to answer this crap. Should we do weekday races and doubleheaders? Okay, weekday races, yes. I think we're going to see them.

I know we're going to see them within the next few years, the way the driver council and the secret council is talking about it, but the double secret, triple secret council. But I'm just going to just say this. We'll make a huge mistake like we would with the dirt racing. If we knee-jerk react and we go to 10 dirt races, that'll be bad for the sport. If we knee-jerk react and we put in too many weekday shows, it would hurt the sport. You know what I want to see it during football season?

I want to see a Wednesday night race on NBCSN during the playoffs, possibly, in that season where everybody's Sunday focus in America seems to be on football. I want to see that. I think there's great potential for our TV broadcast. partners to do something like that. You just stated the biggest challenge that I think we have as a sport right now. The biggest. And that is that we're on NBCSN and not NBC.

Yes, I agree. Because when we went from network television to cable network television, it has Everybody's screaming about our ratings being down. And most of that is because we switch channels. Yes. And I can tell you from a sponsorship sales perspective, it hurts your efforts because my sponsors want to be on NBC. Yes.

You know, they want to be on the national channel, the network channel. But that is what it is. I want to say something else to this, because you made another good point about the racetracks. Like when I look at these racetracks and we go to some of these places one time, some of them two times, some of them sell tickets, some of them don't. NASCAR needs to really get their thumb on this thing. And you know what they need to say? If you don't sell tickets, we're moving your date. Indianapolis, guess what?

Why a fire under about your saying? Guess what? We're going to come back to Indianapolis, but we're going to IRP. if you could take the 40 cup cars and put them at IRP to end the regular season, you'd sell 50,000 tickets, no problem. You'd put on a hell of a show. Like Indianapolis Motor Speedway is sitting here getting all of our TV money. Yeah.

And they're not, look at what they do for the Indy 500. Do something big for the Brickyard 400 or guess what? You lose it. Put some pressure on these tracks to go out and do their jobs. I like that. I also think in the second half of the season, and this kind of relates to. to what you're talking about.

But our big challenge besides the network thing, I think, is the battle against football, and that's a whole different topic. And I think we're going in the wrong direction. And NBC Sports and NBCSN, they're doing a ridiculously good job. Let's just say that. Ridiculously good job. Agree. But if I'm sitting at home with that clicker in my hand, okay, and it's 1 o'clock,

and I turn on my football game to see my Panthers, okay? That race starts at 2 o'clock. Oh, now I have to make a day. decision and switch over or watch both or whatever. Okay, let's just say we start the race at noon. It gives you one hour before that kickoff. Also, if my team's playing at four, I can watch a whole dang race. Yep.

I'm into throwing stuff today. I just threw my pen. I'm so busy. Just don't throw it over here. Let's go, Jason. All right, next question from at Tomlin. Think now. Ask.

With another big sponsor at leaving the sport, what can NASCAR do to cut cost enough for teams not to need tens of millions of dollars for sponsor money. I guess the five-hour news came out this week that they're leaving the sport, which is unfortunate. Having had the opportunity to work with those guys, they're brilliant marketers and did a lot of great things with their program to bring people to the racetrack, the distributors to guys that were. And this is a big brand. This guy bought, I don't know if I can say this, but this guy bought the five-hour energy formula at a trade show for $30,000. Good for him. And he, as a marketer,

built it into a billion-dollar business, an energy shot. Brilliant. So literally, the American dream and one of the best American sports with NASCAR, hate to see them go. You know, the thing is, man, we've seen it before. NASCAR comes in and tries to tell you how to spend your money. You know, no testing, no this, no that. The reality is we're going to spend as much money as it takes to win races.

That's what successful teams are going to. do. And that's what that gap that David Reagan is talking about, the have have nots. He's saying it's gotten bigger. It hadn't gotten bigger. The gap hadn't gotten bigger. It's just gotten more expensive to do, in my opinion. I think it's challenging times. I think we need to activate differently as a sport. I think NASCAR needs to promote our sport in the advertising sector better. Sprint used to pay for that advertising. Monster Energy does not do that any longer. That affects so many things. to what we're talking about here. And it affects team sponsorship as well.

These teams need to see that value. We also need to stop crapping on our sport. And that goes from every level, from team people to media members that just, I mean, the next time I see a race end that was a darn good race. And the next day on Monday, I'm seeing things about TV ratings and attendance numbers. Go home. Go cover tennis, man. I'm done with you because I don't want to talk about that crap anymore. We got a frigging badass sport, and we are a value for a sponsor to come in here and put your name on the side of these race cars.

And if you activate it correctly, like I've seen so many teams do, it's an incredibly valuable thing for a person to come in and be a marketing partner of a race team. This is off topic, but you kind of led me into this. The media a lot of times controls a narrative, especially the big outlets. So we go to New Hampshire, and the narrative. I don't want that to be the narrative. That really excites the fans. Let's talk about PJ1. I want to talk about the drivers, the personalities.

The only race in Loudon, too. It's the only race in the Boston market. Let's talk about that. I'm telling you, dude, the narrative all weekend. I know. We're reapplying PJ1. It's going to rain. We're going to reapply PJ1 after stage 1.

PJ1, PJ1. Thank God the media aren't the promoters because they would suck. The one. Like, let's stop. The narratives are being. controlled in the wrong way. The narratives are also being controlled by... If the drivers want to talk about it in an interview,

it's fun. Yeah. But the media, and by media people, media people listen to our podcast, I'm not fussing at you guys. I'm just saying, stop talking about crap. Who cares? I don't care. And I work in the sport.

It doesn't affect how I spot. It doesn't affect how fans watch. It doesn't affect how they absorb the race. You know, it affects the guy sitting in the car. Let him talk about it. And the track, we're replaying. Look at here. Look at us.

How about taking that time? go buy some radio ads. Yes. Buy some more billboards, buy radio ads, and get creative. Save you PJ1 money and go do that. Go to a local short track. Okay.

And this is one thing Lenny Baticki did so well. And he's with Charlotte Motor Speedway now, but he's got a different role. For Gateway, he said, you know, he wouldn't just go to a local short track and wear khakis and go up in the booth doing interview, giveaway tickets, and leave. He would go in his blue jeans.

He would sit with the people, the grassroots people, and those are the people that we are losing in ways in our sport, going after the young and white-collar crowd, go to the people like that. We need to do some guerrilla marketing and promotion in our sport and not just do social media posts and cute little gifts and all this stuff,

but our sport has not changed. These cars back here behind us are bad ass. And when you go to a racetrack, I haven't been to the track in a while. I get to go short tracks now and all, but I was at New Hampshire this weekend. And dude, I'm sorry, there yet nothing cooler than sitting there and pre-race and those cars crank up.

and I was on the grandstand side this weekend as well, and it is freaking awesome. All right. At Deb. Dopp asked NBC had drivers picking other drivers for class clown nerd, etc. Who would you say is the class clown of spotters? Probably T.J. He's a clown. Can't defend himself.

He's a prankster. Yeah. He's a class clown. He's definitely not most talented. He's definitely not best dressed. He's definitely not best looking. So if he's going to win. a spotter superlative, it's probably going to be class clown.

Ask me the question real quick. Ask you the question? Yeah, I want to hear the school. What is it again? Who would you say is this a class clown of spotters? It's not me. I'm not a class clown. You think it's me?

Yeah, man, you're funny as hell. You're opinionated. You're one of the more bold spotter. So I'd say you and my boy, Long Island's very own two-time. rookie of the year in the figure eight division at riverhead raceway freddy craft how can you win rookie the year two times it's a great story dude i'm telling you i told this to a high level driver i forgot who it was once and they turned their head like wait what freddie craft is a two-time rookie of the year in the figure eight division at my home track riverhead raceway no the most

dubious distinction in the history of motorsports nobody else can have that stat we should have freddie on here dude freddie should be a backup when t j uh that's the babysit tj has to like like watch Frickin' Wheel of Fortune or whatever he's doing right now. Yeah. Freddy knows some of my

skeletons though. I don't know if I can bring that guy on here. T.J. doesn't know what him in my skeletons. Freddy and you would be funny as hell. Me and Freddie hang out a lot.

Yeah. On the racetrack and off. I mean, he was over my house the other week. Drinking waters, chilling out. Yeah.

Have it a good night. Freddy's good dude. But he's, I mean, he's a Yankee. So I'm just warning you off. We bring him on here. He's a full-blown Yankee.

And he's got an opinion. He's just, like brothers. He's like the, you're like the Southern craft. Somebody says to me this week via text message, they said, you don't like Yankees, do you? I said, no, I love Yankees. I got a bunch of Yankees. I don't like fucking Yankees.

There's a big difference. Like, someone will go there. Are we talking? I'm out. Are we done? That was it. You got a rant? Hey, you got to at least clued one question next week from that lady that sends 100.

Sends 2 million. I tell you tweet her back. Is her name Cassie or something? hey send in your questions to hashtag Ask DBC and it's like Question question question question question Hey questions Like not 100 questions One good question

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Do some stuff that's different Shultzies been helping us out to Dirty Mo Media on Facebook On Twitter And the IG baby slides up in those DMs. Now, I'm just kidding. That's like your favorite expression.

Yeah. But, T.J's. Don't give us DMs. Please, I don't want to handle that. We're going to pick. Pocono. Oh, we're going to pick. So you can't pick.

TJ can tweet his pick. Can I pick for T.J? Yeah. Because I get the pick first. No, you're not picking for T.J. You can pick for yourself. By the way, you better save Stanhouse for Bristol. I am picking Daniel Sauriz for Pocono.

Soreth for Pocan. And we'll see who he tweets. And I have a small ran. I only have a few minutes. I got to get out of it. So some buddies of mine, spotter guys like Doug Campbell, who spots for Casey Kane, went down and changed tires. Oh, yeah. For Tommy Ball and Racing into Modified.

And they were having live pit stops. Did Monez do it? Or did they not have any bling for his fire suit bottoms? They didn't do Monez. Monez didn't qualify. But the thing is for me, we're always talking about costing motorsports, cost in motorsports. And nothing upsets me more than to be at the snowball derby. And to watch Hunter Robbins, I believe it was his last name, leading the race, fastest car,

come in on pit road and come out 12th because John Hunter and Imichek, the guy beside of him has a ganassie pit crew, paying him $1,000 a piece to come pit the car. They're spending $10,000, and he's got his buddies jumping over the wall. Like it frustrates me when I see series, lower series. I really even include the truck series in this. I want to see the best car with the best driver, with the best crew. What's the solution then? With the best crew.

I mean pit crew. I don't mean pit crew. I mean the guys who worked on the car. Stop live pit stops in these smaller series. Or do you do a thing? I mean, because think of it. Take a break. What's the damn solution?

No. Fans don't want to see the brake. Then do the race is going to be the length of a fuel window. Okay. Can I ask you a question? Give them a big fuel cell. What about this suggestion? Okay.

If you're not hands on, if you're not, they've got these patches now where you're you're this member or that member, if we say, say in the Xfinity series or in the truck series. Let's start with the truck series. You have to be one of those designated mechanics or somebody that works on the car to go over the wall. How about that? Guess which way they're going to go? They're going to start having donkeys working on the cars. Well, then they'll go slower. So eventually it's going to even out, I think. I think you're wrong. I think they go hire the athlete. Teach him how to. They train him how to work on the car. Oh, God. Then that would really hurt our sport. They put more pressure on the guys in the shop to

provide that because you and I both know at the track right now, we're not making the amount of changes on these cars we used to make. No. We would change points. We would change upper control arms. Yeah, yeah. Change's sway bars. Now the big change is changing some spring.

Yeah. Yeah, we're going to change right rear spring here. Yeah. Like, I think, for me, I think you just eliminate the Lai Pit Stop and stop and stop making it. If the caution comes out or whatever, there's a process in place that protects these guys. But I want to see the best driver. But geez, come on. I'm talking about late models, dude.

We got these late model teams. When you go to these tracks where, like the snowball derby, you got these guys spending a pile of money. Good luck trying to race against. Yeah, but my brother had a team. You talked about having have-n-have-n-nots. And we trained, dude. We practiced.

And it was like such a cool thing to go out there and do a pit stop and try to get on par with those guys. We knew we were underdogs doing it, but that was kind of the fun of it. You talk about the have-and-have-nots? Yeah, it was a gas man. That's messed up, you talk about having have knots though, like in those series for those particular races. Here is a guy named Hunter that has the car and has the driver, but he doesn't have the pit crew. Tim and Jeske got bit in the butt a few years ago at the Snowball Derby because of that.

I mean. Because he didn't have a paid pit crew and he came out. The Snowball Derby shouldn't be about pit crews. I'm sorry. It should be about. But the Snowball Derby with brakes. Oh. It should be about the driver and the car.

Then put a big ass fuel cell in it and run 150 laps and whatever. It is what it is. But I'm telling you, from a cost perspective and a competition perspective, not a fan. Take away live pit stops for these younger series, lower series. That's it. We're off to Pocono. That was a rant. I can't wait to go to Pocono.

Thanks to one main in Exalta. Go have some. It's headed to the airport. Yes. Flying in Miami. I like Miami. Are you going to wear boat shoes and no socks and like, are you going to go like Miami Vice style? I'm wearing.

We're going to see a picture of you on a cigarette boat, like Tim Richmond or something? Today I'm wearing flip-flops and a t-oops and a t-oxie. shirt like I have on here and tomorrow I've got to wear a suit. I got a meeting. So I'm out. Thank you guys. Thanks for Mane. Matthew, thanks for Super Sub and Jason. Thanks for the show sheet. It's phenomenal. Of course. Always appreciate you guys having me. The way we spell Clemson is Clem sucks. C-L-E-M-S-U-X. I had a couple of you will send me that. I'm out.

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