Door Bumper Clear - 113 - Watch Out for This Guy

Episode Date: September 4, 2018

The gang is back together as Brett sets the record straight about Clint Bowyer’s Darlington crash before covering lapped traffic, Ross Chastain and Kevin Harvick, Elliott Sadler’s retirement, drivers as females, cussing in Myrtle Beach and more.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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White flag. Hello. Clear. Bring home. Three light. Go to the line. Door, bumper, clear. Woo!

I was just thinking that. How many times did you say that? Apparently 50. And then you said it one time and then you got them. Oh, man. I mean, Darlington, it was Darlington. You had different. When somebody pits at Darlington,

they are digging. It doesn't matter what car you are. It's fun. It is fun. And honestly, to be in a bad car there would be really bad, in my opinion. Because there's really, sometimes, there's not a lot of places to get out of the way. Yeah. You really have to depend on your spot around what's coming and how fast is catching you because you can't see that well.

And the bad cars have bad drivers have bad spotters. Yeah. It's a bad storm a lot of times. It is, and you catch them faster than they're ready for. And they don't want to be in the way, but they don't, a lot of times, they don't know what's coming and how fast it is. No. To me, though, if the leader comes by, you know, at the end of the race, there was a guy that slid up in front of Brad when he was trying to catch Larsen. By that.

Well, in it, like, okay, there goes a leader, and then he just slides up in one and two. Like, there's not, like, do you not think the rest of the field's coming? Like, hello. So. Anyway, who are you on what show is this? I am, TJ. You just want to right into it. I am here.

Well, we got the intro, I mean. Yeah. People should know. Does they say door bumper clear in there? Yeah. It says at the end. Yeah. Awesome.

About 15 seconds after, watch out for this guy. You still say it so well. I'm Brett Griffin, Spotter, Clem Boyer, Elliot Sadler, Mike Snyder, and it is Bachelorette Week Party. It is. Which there will be probably more people in her party than there will be at some other places this weekend. It's going to be a big, big deal.

T minus two days. I love the co-host Casey Hames. Hi, guys. Are you hydrating and physically preparing yourself for this? I went for a run yesterday. No, that's not it. What does that got to do with anything? No, I am not hydrating, but that is a great idea.

You better go to sleep early all week just to catch up, make sure you're ahead. Well, I try to, but Chad like races every night. So I can't go to sleep until after you races. So for the Indy race, like, please end it at, like, nine. So that we can't go to bed. I can't. My brain doesn't stop. It doesn't.

Oh, my gosh. It doesn't stop, right? Right. It won't stop. So there's a couple things. You still have two days. Yes. So Pediolite.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It makes this new powder that you put in water to help you hydrate. Okay. Which is recover. I need to take no time. Or you can just mix drinks with Pediolite. That's what a rich, famous country singer friend of mine. does, he will actually do

Smithworks, vodka, and pediolite. Orange Peelite. Is it like a, is Peelot a flavor? Yes, orange. Okay. It's the one he uses. There's also something on Amazon called Motive Pure.

Go on there, have it shipped to your little house that you're renting. And that is the best one. You wake up the next morning, you drink a Motive Pure and you're back. Like you drink it after. Yeah, it's these tiny little, like clear, like shots.

Yeah, kind of, I guess. And it like a chocolate cap. over. Wow. I mean, it helps. It helps. Motive pure. Motive pure.

Yeah. Don't get grape. You'll vomit. If you're hung over and drink that, you'll vomit. The rest of the flavors are good, though. Grape's usually good. I know. Grape is usually good.

What color? What should I get? It's just not grape. Orange is what I like. So either way, I'm going to get sick. You're on a bad show party. Get cherry. What?

Yeah. Get cherry. I mean, at some point this weekend, you're probably going to be hugging the toilet. My goal is to not do that. I can't handle it. It's hot in here. It just started. Do you throw up when you drink it off?

Once or twice, yeah. Oh, you're throwing up. You're throwing up then. Well, no, if I keep drinking water. Like, if I balance it out and keep drinking water. So are you the type that can throw up and then keep going? Rally. Rally.

I'm going to try and rally this weekend. Rallying's tough. I know. Okay. one really hot guy of our listener fan base. Yeah. That's going to be in Nashville to raise his hand on social media and voluntarily buy you a round of drinks.

They don't have to be present. They can call ahead to the bar and leave their credit card and send a selfie of themselves. Done. Or follow and take pictures. Because you may get some great posts later in return from these group of girls. Or you can meet them there in person. You can meet them there in person and buy them around. I'm volunteering for one of our lucky mouth guys.

Just straight up creep and follow and send pictures, tweet pictures all night. Me or them? No, them. That would be so great. Yeah, let's let the, we'll hire a videographer. Yeah. We need this guy to also be a videographer. For this new Jason.

Yeah, I'll just come up. I'm going to do this weekend. Is there not a conference in Nashville? This is a lot. I could find one. Jason goes a lot. Hey, just so listen to, though, Jason goes to a lot of conferences. Yes.

So he calls them. And they always end up at the beach. And is there a camera on him? Yeah. Look at that grin when you say conference. He knows. Yeah. Yeah.

He's sneaky, man. School started? Yeah, a couple weeks. Yeah. Skipping class today. My teacher was not happy that I was coming here. Yeah. Did I tell her it was a conference?

I think you'll learn more here than one class. No, exactly. I'm glad to be here, but she was not having to be here. So what class is it? PR strategy. Tell her that she needs to come to my class about PR strategy. So you're missing one class. Two classes this morning.

Two classes. But only one professor was pissed. Yeah. How many classes can you miss before they start hammering you? She said it for this one, only one, and then she'll be like, all right, going to deduct points. I'm like, all right. Wow. Even though you're doing a job in PR.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Tell her our public relations reach is far bigger than anything she's got going on. Yeah, I will. I'll let her know. Just don't only erase his rain out until Tuesday in the fall. Does, uh, what's her name? Kuwaitis.

No. I might tell her, though. Hey, you called her out. What's her Twitter handle? No, she does have a Twitter. I'll tell you what, give me her Twitter. Twitter handle and I'll help her get some new followers and maybe she'll excuse you. He can write a note basically saying your.

Yeah. But on that note, I'm expecting drinks from you guys too. You are. You may be like an indie. I've been trying to get an itinerary and nobody will give me one. Yeah, we need to know. Okay. I'll send it.

I can't do anything and we don't know anything. I felt like I was part of the process when Natalie was around and now she's an indie. Yeah. Is she going to be in the Bachelorette party? Of course she is. So she's not going to be an indie at all this weekend. She'll be there for the Wednesday race thing. We can just go through Natalie.

Yeah. We'll go through now. Done. Done. I'm expecting, you know, the full VIP treatment. I only buy shots. What? I only buy shots.

Bottles? Bottles? You're not going to where you're getting a bottle service, are you? Why not? Does Nashville do that? I don't know. I've never been. You'll be fine.

You're going to get plenty of VIP treatments the way y'all will be dressed. I'm sure you are dressing like you're going to church. Do you have any shirts like playing that, like, says something funny on it? Or are they bring that? Are they surprising you with that? I don't know anything. There's this girl that I followed specifically because she had her bachelor party in Nashville this weekend. And it was all pictures of her with every possible, like, everything on her head, like, straws.

Like what? So ridiculous. Like what? I just can't deal with that. And I'm a fun guy and I can't deal with it. Who's the girl? Can I look at this up? I don't even know her name.

She came up on my feed. I'll look her up. I'll look her up. TJ L. Finder. All right. Show again to the show? Like your sister. Yes.

Well, you know where my sister will be this weekend. Oh, soccer player. Hey, before we get in the show, let me explain what happened to Clint, because there are some complete idiots out there that don't understand how two-way radios work. So with a two-way radio... We're talking about racing now? Yeah. Okay.

Talk about racing. So with a two-way radio, only one person can talk at the time. And when one person keys up, for the most part, it is a very clear conversation. Every now and then, you'll get a little static, but you can always pretty, pretty much make out what the other person's saying. If two people key up, it sounds like Charlie Brown's schoolteacher. It's terrible. You can't understand anything, right?

So Clint has just left pit road. He's on new tires. He's out there running faster than anybody for obvious reasons. He's on new tires. So during the process of the pit stop, for whatever reason, we began to overheat. So Clint is screaming that he's overheating. And we're looking for debris on the grill. And as Clint goes into three, he looks down and he keys up.

and he says, my temps are $2.90. I'm high. Y'all got to find out of some of them. Wham! That's how quickly it happened. I did not even have an opportunity to key up to tell him Newman was pitting. I did not know Newman was going to pit. Typically down the backstretch, you want to get a hand sign from the driver that says I'm pitting. You want to get away from the spotter that says I'm pitting. Jason Jarrett may have been waving at me. He may not have been waving at me. I couldn't see Jason Jarrett based on where we were standing and where we were looking at the time. But Newman obviously is pitting. Well, when Newman pits, he's in the middle of the racetrack, the first car. The second car is B.J. McLeod, a slow car up top. Clint is at the very,

very bottom, going to pass both of them on the very bottom. So when Newman starts breaking is when Clint is when Clint is looking down and starts talking and when Clint looks up. And Clint is one of those guys that will talk through the center corner with no problem. I've spotted for drivers that don't want to hear any talk during the center corner. And they're not going to talk in the center corner. They're literally lift going in the corner and come off the corner and start back over with their but the way this whole thing played out, it just was the worst case scenario. Newman brake, Clint hit him, and it was like, I sat there and watched the whole thing, and it was just like, damn.

But anyway, that's for all you idiots out there that don't understand how a two-way radio actually works because I get all these people on my tongue on, your spotters needs to be fired, you can't see you. Dude, when you can't talk, you can't help. It's just the way the sport is. Yeah, and, you know, that's just a bad time as well. And there's such a, that normally doesn't happen at a regular track either because we don't, not as big of a speed difference

a lot of places as that. And Darlington's hard to pit at. You can't turn down until the middle of the corner. And it's just something that you deal with a Darlington. They're always going to be in the way. Like Darlington, Dover is really close to being the same way as well. When you guys pit, they're right in the groove till middle of the corner.

And there's not a lot you can do about it. Yeah, I actually got a screenshot sent to me from another spot or Tyler Green. That's right before, right as Newman started breaking. And here's this dude. And here we are. And we're obviously on the very bottom. So you're running, like this Thorlandson race, people are running a lot, a little bit lower than what I remember in three and four.

Quite a little bit like where Clint's at on new tires, you could run pretty low. You could dig down there. You could dig pretty hard. And those white hashes that we normally see, they actually got covered up a rubber. You couldn't even necessarily see where the apron kind of started. That's where we used to run. The left's right about on them. Yeah.

So, I mean, you know, that's normally, I mean, on a green. Green flag stop. Newman probably could have pulled down a little bit earlier, but you're trying to get all you can get still. Yeah, everybody is. He was running. What was he running right there? You guys were running in the same ballpark,

weren't you? Rough between like seventh and... Yeah, well, we were probably in that sixth to eighth range, and he was behind us probably in that eight to tenth range. Yeah, he was, but he was a decent run, so everybody's on a different pitch strategy, trying to make up time on everybody else. Trying to figure something out, yeah.

So you're not, you know, Newman's going to get all he can get and just... Clint's going where nobody's at. to pass them both. When you come out with new tires, I mean, you're going to run there. We would have. We did. Yeah.

But, I mean, it was a bad. That's where Brad run and he won the race. I'm honestly surprised that, like, more wrecks like that didn't happen when people were pitting. McMurray almost nailed us in the butt when we were pitting one time. Same thing. Tyler Green was on the other end of the spotter stand. I'm waiting.

Because these crew chiefs play into the strategy game and they don't want to tell anybody what they're doing because then teams can adapt. Yeah. It's kind of like what happened at Sonoma, you know, with a guy getting head faked. on pit and you don't really pit and you screw everybody up. But they'll tell us off a two pit and you're like, pit and you're like, man, I got five seconds to let this guy behind me know I'm pitting.

We can't physically run down there. So we're, you know, bending over, waving and trying to do our thing. And McMurray didn't get the message and he almost crammed me in the butt. Same thing. But McMurray saw it. Clint didn't see it because Clint was looking down saying what his temperature is right. So it just unfortunate because I hate tearing up Newman's car, you know, hitting him in the butt like that.

hate tearing up our car and screwing up a lead lap. We were probably going to finish anywhere, depending on how the strategies actually did play out. We were going to pit one less time, fourth to seventh. But then the caution start flying, and you never know. So anyway, there's your explanation, especially to that dumb-ass media person. I think his name was Nick Bromberg or something who sent out a tweet. You would think of other sports media. I would have a little bit more understanding about the sport,

but I guess I'll just hire anybody to write about this these days. So basically, you never told Clint the guy was pitting, And then you hit him. And that's it. It's it. All your fault. That's not happening. So anyway, down we can go.

All right. Spot on, spot off. Right into it. Lap traffic at Darlington. Yeah, I think we're both spot off. I mean, you want to spot off it, but it's Darlington. And there's such a separation in tires, sometimes there's no real way to hide. And those teams aren't going to, those teams aren't going to pay somebody that's going to get your guy out of the way to do it.

They're going to, you know. And I think when you have a guy going seven laps. down in the first stage of the race, it's not a slow car, it's a hazard, and it's literally dangerous. And I think, you know, to TJ's point, if it's late in the run and somebody's slower, you know, somebody's faster on new tires, that's different than you all start the race on the same tires. And 30 laps later, you've lapped this guy three times.

And a car 50 laps down is in front of the leaders and makes them go three wide on a two-lane rows. Yeah. Maybe there's a minimum they could, you know, I know we have a minimum of speed, but maybe the minimum needs to be adjusted more to, like lapse. More friendly to make these people more competitive, you know, to make them, okay, look, you know, you need to be within.

And like, I know it's a, you got to do it. I don't know. I mean, maybe they could raise the minimum up or lower it, the time for a lap. But, you know, Darlenton is so narrow too, though. That's what makes it hard is. not a lot of places to go and get out of the way. So you can't just sail off into the corner, run against the wall, and they got five grooves below you.

At some point in that corner, Darlington, you're going to be in the way no matter where you're at. If you go into one and run against the wall, in the middle of the corner, you're going to be in the way. If you go into one and run the bottom, off the corner, you're going to be right in the way. So there's not a lot of places to hide at Darlington. I think our struggle is they don't know what they're doing. They don't know where they're going to enter. They don't know where they're going to exit.

I was talking to Ryan Priest last night. he came to my house and I attempted to give him food poison after homestay last week last year and I was like just talking to him about lap cars he said man Larson's probably still mad at me over a scenario where I was running at a track I'm out there driving my butt off I have no idea he's coming my spotter doesn't tell me he's coming and I'm in the way he admitted it I'm in the way he said but I wasn't wasn't up to speed of what was coming and I screwed him up and so I think it's just a place like Darlington it's just like Bristol you can't hide yeah you get you get there so fast and they don't honestly at some point in the race I probably

got surprised by a guy getting there so fast you know I saw him coming but then I look up look back and like oh there he is he's there already you know you got to but you got always when you're on old tires you got to be watching and on newer tires you're spotting out the front not just like right out front it's almost like you're looking you're catching stuff so fast there's It's nowhere else that you're clear by straightaway, and two laps later, you've been passed by two cars. Yeah. I mean, it's insane. Which I like, I mean, I think that makes it cool with Darlington as well, though, because there's so many different things,

and there's so many little mini races going on within the race. So, I mean, that's cool. It makes an exciting to watch for sure. But I will say, like, with the lap traffic, I mean, I wish there's a way to mandate, like, you have to, like, you're supposed to stay out of the way, obviously. But, like, where can they go to stay? That's part of the racing part of it, though. I mean, if you knew every lap car was going to be on the bus.

bottom. I mean, like when a sprint car race, when they catch lap traffic, those guys are just kind of, you kind of just expect the person to stay running the lane. They've been running. Right. But sometimes they try and do a slide job on you. Sometimes they try to, you know, mix it up and find some speed. They don't know the leader's right behind them.

They don't know that's the leader coming. In our sport, though, they do. You know, the spotter, hey, leaders straight away back. He's coming pretty fast here. He's probably going to be here next lap in three. You know, then you just count them down from there on. This is where he's running because you want to give them their preferred groove. the gentleman's agreement in our sport is you want to give the faster car the preferred

degree when you're getting allowed. See, what I don't think they get told a lot is the spotters say, hey, leaders, 10 back, five, four, you know, to me, when I see somebody coming, I'm like, hey, he's 20 back, he's running up by the wall, one and two, bottom three and four. You know, we get to one and two or get to three and four, I'm like, hey, you know, he's five back running the bottom down here. And I'll see Joey, he'll roll up here and go to the high side and give that guy his preferred lane. To know where to go, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, and like that's the stuff. I don't think they get detailed information. They say leaders, leaders, 10 back, you know, leaders, five back. Good luck. Inside, oh, he's always all over you, okay? Just about wrecked. Now he's going on the outside.

It's like, okay. Interesting. Yeah. Well? Crazy. What's next? Ross Chasin turns Harvick while battling for the lead after contact in Saturday's Exfinity Series race.

This was an awesome race, I will say. Props to Ross. I'm spot off for the. and the turning him part of it down the straightaway, but, you know, spot on for Ross driving the race he did. And, I mean, I don't know what Brett's opinion is on it yet, but to me, that wreck, Kevin was trying to kind of bully him a little bit out of the way and thought Ross would lift.

Okay, a solid second place finish is good for you. I'm the cup guy. I'm coming through here. And Ross basically said, no, I'm going to do everything I can do to win this race. And it didn't work out. Ross Chastain one stage one. He won stage two. And there was a time when he was hung on the outside in one and two.

And he drove back around Keselowski and I lost my breath watching it because I was blown away at how well he was able to get off the corner. And Kuzlowski not even be able to remotely stay close to him and stay in the throttle to race him. This particular situation occurred because he caught a car 50 plus laps down. It was the black number 40 car. That car was running high in one and two, which is where Rob. Ross had been running. Kevin Harvick is a veteran. He saw that.

He said, I'm going to use that as a pick. I'm going to block the leader behind the slow car. I'm going to take the lead. As he did that, as he made his move to the bottom and got under Ross, Ross realized it. So Ross starts squeezing him, squeezing him, squeezing him. Now you're going three wide at Darlington. There's not really room for that.

As he did that. And I talked to Harvick in the coach lot right before the race on Sunday about Saturday's event. And he's like, man, I heard Tim Feeder. saying that's a spotter he's tight tight tight tight tight he said so i knew he was right on my door and as he went through two he's like i'm going to get loose and he did and he washed up into ross ross gave him as much room as he could possibly give him but he still didn't have enough it put ross in the fits and i think that made ross mad it did make ross mad and i was watching

the race and go back to what you were saying brad did everything he could do to get him loose Ross was driving. You could see his hands on the wheel. I mean, he's sideways, like catching it off the corner. And, I mean, he was wheeling it. And, you know, Brad, Kevin got around Brad, and then Kevin gets up there, and they played his in car. And the only thing I, you know, the reason why I say Kevin was trying to force him in, you know,

make him like, okay, look, I'm coming through here because he never lifted all the way out of the throttle. You could hear him like, he was still guessing, you know, trying to work it off the corner. He didn't just kind of like back all the way, back way out and kind of get it. I mean, he was trying to catch it and trying to make Ross lift too, which I don't blame him either. I mean, most time, but now Ross is in. Ross has proved that he can drive some subpar equipment and some decent, you know, finishes. Now you put him in a good car. Maybe he has the ability to be out there and do that. But I don't blame Ross one bit for trying to win this race like that. No, he only gets two

other chances in the season. So here's the thing. Kevin Harvick is eventually going to pass Ross Chastain. I'm telling you, he's going to pass him. Brad Kasselowski was eventually going to pass Ross Chastain. There is an old saying at Darlington, race the racetrack. Ross Chastain was racing Kevin Harvick. Ross Chastain was racing Brad Kzlowski. He was doing everything that he could to have a chance to win that race because he knows he's smart enough to know that may be the only race he ever has a chance to win

in NASCAR's top three series. And I don't blame him for that. And I also don't blame him for getting mad and spinning Kevin Harvick out. Do I think that was the right thing to do after hitting the wall? No. And I bet Ross going back two days later, a couple deep breaths, a couple cold beers, looking at it going, man, I probably should have tried to finish the race without doing that. But heat of the moment, adrenaline, you've won two stages, you've led the most laps. If he gets by you, you know you're not going to win.

And the guy was trying his guts out. And then when he got put in the fence, he felt like, you know what? This cup guy who's a champion, who is a champion in both series, Exfinity End Cup won tons of races, he shouldn't have hit me. And he got mad. You know, like you said, though, say he goes on, say he wins one of these. Or say he wins both his next two races, gets a good Exfantity car ride. Say he gets at 42.

I don't know. Goes, run successful in it. And say he's in the cup car in two or three years. does this right here change and say he's competitive. I mean, say he takes off here and he's in a competitive cup car and can run to win races. Does this change how Kevin races him? Yeah, it does. Did he just set the tone to say, hey, if Kevin ever catches him, he says, if I hit this guy, he's not scared to do it.

Right. I mean, does that to me, that's Ross. You never hit Ricky Rudd. If you hit Ricky Rudd, he was turning you head on the wall. Yeah, just like that. I mean, he was like, you run Ricky into the wall. You were going to get it. Yeah.

And now does this change, like, how people look at Ross, like, hey, if I run this guy into the fence. Yeah. He's going to retaliate. Yeah. I mean, to me, that I almost wish more guys, not that I want people to turn head out into the guy, but I get it. I don't know that I agree with Harvick's comments after the race about being inexperienced.

I mean, back up even before that. I saw this announcement that D.C. Solar was going to back Ross Chastain for three races. And I said, why? You have John Hunter Nemechek, who is very talented, who needs to be in a car getting experienced. Why is Gannasi even allowing this guy to come in who isn't a Gannasi driver? And I was like, man, I don't get this play. And then he goes out and he does what he does. I was like, well, obviously they know more than I know because this makes a lot of sense.

This kid can drive. And we've all said, I've heard T.J. say on the show. I spotted for him in the trucks before. Ross Chastain deserves a chance in a good car. Well, he got it. And holy cow, did he do a lot with it, you know? I feel like when he runs the cup car, he's taking a top 30 car and running like 20. He was doing really well on Brad's trucks before he got.

Yeah. You know, they replaced him with Tyler Reddick, which was just a sponsorship type thing. And Ross was competitive. He was running behind the KBM trucks, which were the best trucks at the time. He was right there. He could get a pole. Yeah. You know, he could get some poles and stuff.

But, you know, I think I like to see a guy come in there and stand his ground like that. I think it's pretty good. I mean, if Ross finishes third to Brad and Kevin, yeah, great. But I don't think it's a bad result for him, you know, because he didn't just get out in there. And it was a questionable incident where Kevin was trying to force him into something and, you know, and Ross just wasn't taking it. So I think it was an exciting race either way.

Man, that's my favorite. It's become my favorite non-plate race of the year because it's 147 laps. You got to go. You don't have time to hang out. You got to go. And that's what those guys were doing. They were going. Did you almost change your pants after you come off the corner and you were passing the nine?

Nah? When he got near his door? Oh my gosh, I thought you were wrecking. I thought you were both wrecking. I thought it was going to shoot us to the inside wall. I did too? Because if you hit wheel to wheel. Did he come down more than we came up?

Because I thought he kind of was trying to stay off the wall. He was. He needed more race track than what was there. And Elliot was fine. He was where he needed to be. Tyler was just trying to catch it and making sure he wasn't going to wreck. And if they would have hit wheel to wheel, it would have wrecked Elliot. But when I saw them hit, I'm like, oh, gosh.

Yeah. So that happened fast, too. But now I was like, ooh, where I? Yeah. Spot on, spot off. I'm putting you on the spot, Brett. Okay. Elliot Sadler announces retirement.

Spot off. The hell's he thinking, we're not that old. Man, we came in, rookies together. And I'm spot off for one reason and one reason only. He can still do it. Yeah. You know, he could still win races. he can still compete for championships.

I mean, we're second in the points right now in regular season. Right now heading into the Exfinally playoff. He's already locked into the playoff. So I'm only spot off for the fact that I know he can still do it. So I hope he'll take some time next year and come back out and run a few weekends with us and have some fun. But I also know Elliott as a person is ready to start that next chapter. I mean, let's not ignore the obvious here. One main when we were having those discussions in spring, early summer,

Elliot was committed to running a full-time season next year with the sponsor come back. When that sponsorship went away, it put his brain in motion. And I told him, I said, dude, give me 60 days to find another sponsor. And he's like, no, man, I'm done. This is my opportunity to go out on my own terms and my opportunity to go spend more time with Wyatt, Coach Wyatt.

Wyatt certainly is the largest factor, in my opinion, on his decision and the amount of time that Elliot's going to spend at the ball field with Wyatt. and I mean, we all heard him say that in the press conference. So very bittersweet. I would have had a really hard time talking about it. I mean, I helped him edit his speech. You know, he obviously wrote his statement.

And then he sent it to me and he said, make sure I don't sound like a clown. And I was like, okay, I got you. I don't know if you were the right. And so then we sent it and obviously he tweets it out. And I had read it many times over. And reading it that day, man, I started crying. I was like, damn, 20 years. coming to an end.

Did you ask me this question the day that he said he was retiring, I couldn't have answered it. I don't think he could have answered it. That's why we kind of staggered it and gave him a few days to get him. I mean, I didn't talk to him on the day that he sent statement out.

You know, we just didn't even talk to each other. Because, I mean, we lived together in his motor home for 15 years until he got married and had two kids. And it's just, I mean, it's very emotional. I mean, I knew at Talladega that that was the last plate race

we were ever going to run. And a couple guys around me knew, you know, the guys that are close to me. They're looking at me and go, you're all right? I was like, I'm all right, man. You're all right, you're sure you're all right? I'm like, yeah, I'm all right. But it's hard.

And homestead's obviously going to be hard. Yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm spot on because of what he said, you know, it's his terms. Like, that's, you know, anytime a guy can decide on his, decide on his own, which doesn't happen a whole lot. And, I mean, it seems to be happening a little bit more right now. It's kind of a trend, but I'm spot on for any time like that. You know, Elliot's been around a while. for him to have the right reasons to go.

You'll see when you have kids one day, Casey, you know, they're... You better hurry up. You'll see. I mean, you miss out on a lot when you're in the, at these, you know, at the races every weekend and stuff. And, you know, Elliot, you know, luckily the drivers, they have, they can bring their families more and stuff,

but it's still hard to, you know, we watch our kids on FaceTime every weekend now. I mean, TJ's supposed to go to an anthracidal this year. Yeah. And it, we change. We hit a rain delay, and it changed his ability to go to the dancer's side. I don't people go, well, you guys have the best jobs in the world, you son of for it? It doesn't matter.

You still have family things that we miss frequently that we want to be able to make, and that one time T.J. was going to be able to make it. One freaking rain delay screwed his whole day up with his daughter. So it's cool for Elliot to be able to at 40 to 43 years old to be able to shift gears. And, you know, I mean, I always said, and I guess I'm kind of an idiot for saying this, my kids are so young, they're not going to remember me being gone all the time. Well, now Jovey's 11. She's going to remember it.

But I thought, you know, I thought, Elliot, and at one point, Elliot and I said, hey, we're retiring at 40. We're going to be done. And then we just kept having fun and kept having success. And we obviously kept going, you know, so we'll see. Yeah. I mean, think about, I mean, how old was Elliot? He's 43. I mean, he's retiring at 43.

He's Harvick's age. He's Jimmy Johnson's age. But, I mean, 43? I know, I know. I mean, most people don't retire. What's the time? 65? Yeah.

And he's still going to work. He's, uh, But you know what I mean, though. He's not, yeah. No, he's, I mean, he's not going to do what he's been doing, obviously. But he's, he's the kind of guy that's got to have something to do. And I'm hoping that's why one of the reasons, maybe he'll come run a few races next year. Yeah.

He'd be great as a commentator. Just like working for me. He didn't want, he, he, I'm going to talk to him because I have one idea, but God only knows if he'll listen. But I know him well enough to know if he's going to come to the racetrack every week. He's going to want to be sitting in a seat competing, not standing in a booth. But he did, you know, some of that in the past and he does a good job. I agree with you. And plus people like his Virginia accent.

It's just good to get somebody fresh out of the car that knows the situations and knows the scenarios that are going on. Most in the house. Lost current. This means Will's retiring too? Will's retiring? He announced it. Wheel? We don't know yet.

You know, Will. It just won't be saying. Maybe we'll get wheel on here during Charlotte week. Can you please do that? Will you and Elliott. Yeah. The three. I could tell you all about the condominium complex in Daytona.

that Will flooded the entire building. Wow, that's impressive. How long ago was this? The night after the Daytona 500, we ran third or fifth that time. I think it was fifth. And I got a call the next morning. Brett, hey, y'all, it's before 7 o'clock. Why are y'all calling me?

We got a problem. What is it? Will has flooded the entire building that he's staying in. It's like, oh, gosh. How do you do that? We'll get him in here to tell him. Well, please. Have in Charlie Race Week.

Yeah, that's actually, we need to get Will on the show. The last thing that this person said to me on the phone, we were at Evanham when it happened. The last thing that the general manager, which was Sammy Johns at the time, said to me on the phone, he said, if he's going to do this every week, he can't stay at these team hotels. Poor guy. Oh, yeah. Poor wheel. Yeah, that's. I did see Elliot gave you.

you all the shoutout though on the show and told you about the Southern 500 we talked about it I asked him about it that's cool I told him going to the donathan the first thing I think of is his bus leading the race I love Will he said why'd you do that well the guy opened the gate so I just drove out someone on Twitter said at Homestead he should do a lap around the track and the bus can we plead the victory lap oh we need to make that happen yeah I got to call Homestead I bet you we need to that would be that would be that would be a good idea that would be all Like, you know, in Talladego with the hauler at the American flag, like at intros, can we make that? Pre-race, Will we go down the bus?

It can be Monday, too, because they're going to have all that stage and everything out there for a while. Just do it Monday morning. Or after the race, we're always there so late. I'll personally, like, open the game for it. If it rains at all during anything, he needs to pull on the pit road for a pitcher. Photo op. Will started driving Elliot's bus, his second year in cup, so 2000. is when Will started.

So he's been with Elliot, with the exception of his rookie year, every single year of his cup career. And then obviously, he's an exfinity career now. But he's been a, he's gotten fired more times than anybody you've ever been around in your life yet he's still around. I mean, working for you guys, I imagine it's not difficult to do. Oh, Lord. Well, it depends. All right.

Anyway. Spot on, spot off. NASCAR drivers, this is hilarious as females as graphic. Dude, was that not hilarious? I thought it was pretty funny. Chase Elliott looked like the prettiest girl you will ever see. If you're listening to the show and you haven't seen the NASCAR on Reddit version of all the big name drivers, a lot of Exfinity drivers in there too, if you haven't seen this graphic of these guys looking like girls, you've got to go look at it. It was hysterical.

Were there any that you thought were hot? Yeah. Where was that one? I don't think I have it saved. Did you put it in there? Yeah, it's in the group chat. Okay. Oh, it is?

Let's go see here. There were a couple guys that I'm not going to lie to y'all. They were scary looking ugly. Oh, yeah. They were fugly. Who's that right there? Which one? Oh, I don't know.

Is that Larson? No, Larson's up here. No, Larson's up here somewhere. Look at Amarola. Look at Clint. Clith. That's terrible. Jamie needs a new hairdresser.

I'm telling you, that one right there has got to be the The cutest? Yeah. Who is? Whoever's next to William. We got to figure out who. I don't... I don't know who it is.

Wait. Who's the worst-looking ones? The worst-looking one? David Reagan's ugly. Matt Kenseth is horrible. Like, he's like the... Eric Jones. I just found a new one.

Elliot's pretty ugly. There's now another one. Look at Elliot's hair. That's pretty bad. Yeah. Look at this. No, have you seen Brad's hair? Oh, that looks kind of good on him, though.

He's got three lips to be a girl. Who is that under Brad? That is the question. Who is under Brad? Two under Brad. And who's under... Oh, two. There's another one.

There's two of them. Is that... It's not Paul Menard, is it? Oh, it might be. If it's Paul, we need Paula. Look, there's another one that was just posted. Paula Menard's hot. Bubba kind of looks like a drag queen.

I mean, the lipstick on Bubba is. Michael Madel. Yeah. I wish they had the name, so he knew. Poor Denny. Yeah, Denny. But look at Chase Elliot. Which one's Denny?

Right there. Two next to Brad. Next to Cal. He's not pretty either. Brian Blaney looks pretty nice. Look at Chase Elliot. Chase is cute. Chase is so cute.

I'd ask him out. Who is that? Is that? That's Boucher. Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. AJ. These are hilarious.

Man, look at how ugly Clint looks. Anyway, this is hysterical graphic. This should win an award of some sort from somewhere. I don't know who took the time to do this and had obviously the idea. Well, it looks like they're all done in a little app. Yeah. Face app or something like that. Like that's what's in the bottom, something like that.

Who's this? Where? Maybe that's Jennifer Joe. I mean, true. I don't know. Ricky. Look at Ricky's got a lot of makeup. He looks like Tammy Fay Baker.

All right. We'll keep it moving. But anyway, we wanted to, that deserve something. I kind of want to see what you guys would look like as girls. I don't. Spotter. Yeah, I don't. Next graph of the spotters is this girl.

Yeah, I don't think it would be as funny. I hope that went viral. It did. Yeah. I'll pick up. A lot of people saw that. All right. We're going to take a break so you can look at this longer.

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We are back. We're going to head in the fast lane. I'll give these guys three topics between narrating and one that's off the top. Only if TJ stops looking at the graphic. What? She's still staring. Guys, test up as girls. Yeah.

And they have 30 seconds. Let's see if you can actually meet that. First one, Brad Kislauski won his first Crown Jewel Cup event Sunday at Darlington. Which young driver do you see winning a Crown Jewel event first? T.J. Out of this group, I would, I mean, Larson shows the most speed right now. I think Larson,

Chase Elliott, and Eric Jones are the top three to win a crown jewel event. It's, you know, that's, it's amazing to me that Brad hasn't won one of these already. What's the guy, like 28 wins or 29 wins or something like that? A lot of wins. That's a lot to not have one of these in your trophy case already. So, but, you know, to show the most speed,

Larson definitely shows the ability to have the speed. He just needs to put the race together. I think Chase will start, you know, I think Chase started getting a little bit better and better now. Before I get my 30 seconds started, a crown jewel event is clearly the Southern 500. It's clearly the Daytona 500. Indy.

You think still? Is it still indie? I mean, it's the break yard. So I think every time we race there, it'll be, I mean, I'm going to go and tell you, if you're leading the brickyard on a green white checker, you're excited. You're going to be like, wow, because you get to go out there. You kiss the bricks that some of these guys.

Well, you get to go out there where these legends have raced, like in Indy cars and stuff. And it's the Coke 600. So we got four crown jewels. We agree. Yeah. And there's some other ones that are honorable mentions like Bristol. Martinsville is pretty good. I mean, because of the trophies.

Yeah. The trophy also makes the crown jewel event to me as well. You get your pitcher on the Darlington trophy. Yeah. You know, you get win Martinsville. You get a grandfather clock. Right. I mean, that's pretty important.

But you want to win these races, some of them for the trophies. I got to say, Chase, Elliot wins a Daytona 500 first out of this group. I see that. I'm done. Ding. That's quick. You know, I think, I still think a few of these other guys show speed,

and I think one of them will win before the Daytona 500. Maybe not a, you know, the Crown Joel event. I mean, what do we got left? Well, Indy. Indy, and that's really it. Yeah. Vegas isn't really a Crown Joel. I don't see any of these guys went on Indy.

But you never know. You do never know, man. You never know. I mean, yeah. We didn't see Casey Kane. in indie last year either. I just got to say that, yeah. Yeah.

Who knows? Rumors continue to swirl about what teams Martin Trix, Jr., and Kurt Bush will race for next season. Could they switch for 2019? Brett. Man, I told y'all there was our shattering

news coming, and it's still coming. It's our shattering to me. I mean, I don't ever remember a scenario where a driver nine months ago was spraying champagne in Homestead,

winning a championship. A few months ago was standing on the White House Law and meeting the president and within the next three months is going to have to leave a team. Yeah. And if you don't consider that earth-shattering news and sports, get out of mind of the rock, man.

A championship caliber team making major changes is a big freaking deal to me. But do you see them switching? Like the two of them? No, they're not swapping cars. Yeah. No. The 41 and going to the 78 and vice versa.

I think it's not as super surprising to me because furniture has always kind of been on their own out there. And the guy came in, went from bottom to the top, now he's done. I proved I could do it. Now I want something else to do. You know, obviously he's not going to have to build a race team to stay with it for a long time. He came in, had it as a hobby, I guess, maybe, and won the championship. And now it wants to be done. So it's not like a guy that's coming in to be there for 50 years.

or 20 years or even longer, you know, or whatever. You know, he's not coming in there to compete with Rick and, you know, Jack and Joe and all them guys, but I don't see them switching. Why don't you tell us what's going to happen? It just saddens me. It really does sadden me because, you know, we just had someone come out publicly saying we don't have a sponsorship problem. Five hours says they're leaving.

It creates this scenario. I always looked at those guys as a really unique marketing niche. They're in Denver. There's a lot of great companies in Denver. Denver. You know, for those guys to go out and raise $9, $10 million in sponsorship in Denver alone, I would hope that it wouldn't be that difficult and it would allow this team to keep going just as they are. But as we've read in the media, they don't have a manufacturer signed up. They don't have a driver signed up. We're only 12 races away from the Daytona 500. You know, you have to have your ducks in a row to be ready to race.

And it's very disheartening. I'm sad over this. There's different factors in it, too. There's a lot of things that are playing into this. You know, the Martin needs to be re-signed. number one. That's a big deal. Sponsorship. Big deal. Also, the alliance, you know, that's also. They have an alliance with JGR, which helps them with a lot of speed. They've taken that alliance and used the,

they've hired the right people in there and got the right driver to be a little bit better than that alliance, you know? Here's the thing, and I think you'll agree with this. If I'm an owner, I want that whole situation turnkey. I want that driver, that crew chief, that engineer, that whole team, that built. I want it all turnkey because it's very obvious that the model that that guy built, Barney Visser built a model from the ground up, as T.J. said, holy cow, how success.

Who's won more downforce tracks than Martin Truex in the last three years? Yeah, nobody. Who, oh, by the way, every year had to go out and redo his contract on a one-year agreement. That's a lot of pressure on Martin and Martin and his family and his employees. I've lived it with Elliott for eight years in a row. We did one-year agreements. It is gut-wrenching in the same. summer to figure out what you're going to do next year to provide for your family.

So for Martin to have to sustain that, he's probably sick and tired of doing one-year deals. I would be. Yeah, I don't, I don't, and Martin went out, won the championship. You know, his stock is pretty high right now. And him and Cole together, their stock's pretty high. I don't think that ever. I can't speak for Martin Truex, but if I am Martin Truex, I have to believe that I deserve a multi-year deal and I deserve big money.

Whatever big money is in the marketplace right now, and I'm not, about to guess what that is. But I'd know damn good and well if I'm him, I want a three-year deal and I want top 10% money. Now. Yeah. And he deserves it. Do you see the team shutting down or do you see it being sold?

I see it shutting down. I see it shutting down. There was a little rumor for a little while that somebody was being interested in buying it, but I don't see that happening now. I mean, maybe it will. I don't know. But it possibly could, you know, there's somebody out there that might want to get into it and says, hey, this is a successful organization already.

I want to buy it already and take it over and start off on top. Right. You know? But like TJ said, if the alliance isn't in place with Toyota and JGR and you don't have a good driver, there's no value. You know, your big value here is Barney's Vister's value is going to be what can he sell his building for or lease it to another company and what can he get for his charter, which we just saw a charter and equipment sell for $2 million. Yeah. And I mean, like I said, Barney's. got a driver that needs to resign that probably wants better money.

Need to sponsor. And also, the price for the alliance is probably going up, too. I mean, I would think so. I mean, that's probably all factored into it. So maybe he just decides, look, I'm just going to go out on top here. Maybe they'll win the championship this year. Makes me sad, though. Yeah.

I mean, it's terrible to see where they came from. To me, I watch, you know, watch that car grow and go through a few different drivers. and then finally get to where, you know, it's the car to beat. It is. It still is the car to beat. So it's not like it slowed down at all. The fact that this is going on is insane. Yeah, I agree.

The Cup Series regular season will conclude this weekend at Indianapolis. Who could pull off a buzzer-beater and win to make the playoffs? You got Stenhouse, Newman, Menards, Swares, McMurray, Byron, Bauer, Almondinger, Kane, and Wallace in the mix. Well, I think, you know, the ones that stand out to me on this list are Ryan Newman, Paul Menard, Suarez could have the speed to do it. You know, McMurray doesn't stand out to me. It just doesn't stand out to me.

William Byron has enough speed. Could show, could come out there and pull Casey Cain. I just don't see Bush or being able to do it. I don't see A.J. and Kane. I don't see that happening. It's good to see William Byron having some success lately. I see him in the top 10. I see him qualifying better.

He's had a good year. He's had a marginal rookie year. I think the hard thing is that we've had some rookies have crazy good years. So you expect him to kind of come in and do that, and he wasn't able to pull that together yet. But nonetheless, it's been good to see his progress. I mean, the name that jumps out on me here is Menard. He's won there before. McMurray's also one there before.

It's home to him. I don't honestly think without some kind of, you know, Casey Kane won that race last year because we tore up a lot of cars. And at the very end, he wasn't having to race a lot of great cars, and he was in Hendrick equipment. He pulled the win out, severely dehydrated, got out of the car so sick he couldn't stand up. Awesome win for him.

Probably his last Cup Series win ever. And what a great place to do it. But of the guys on this list, I just really don't think they can outrun these guys that are already locked into this playoff. I don't see them out running. Brad Keslowski, Joy Lagano, Clint Boyer, Kevin Harvick, Martin Truex,

Uh, Kyle Bush, Denny Hammer. Kyle, for sure. Good luck. Paul could have the speed to do it and have things go his way. Newman, if you put Newman up front with a pick call at the end,

he's going to be hard to get around. He knows what he's got to do. And he's shown before that he's willing to do what it takes to get into the chase. I mean, put Kyle Larson in the wall on Phoenix to get into the chase. Which guy would you like to see? If you had to pick one guy that says, all right,

who's going to, who would you want to see on this list when it? I mean, somebody I'm not going to have to race that much. So, you know, I don't want faster guys in the chase. You know, it's more you got to beat. But, you know, so in that aspect, I'd. Jimmy Hill.

Yes. Jimmy Hill. Top 30. You win it, man. Derek Cote, 50 laps down. He wins the Indy 500. You know, to me, I think it would be, I think it would be, I mean, I kind of want to say, I kind of want to say McMurray, because I'm not real sure what's going to happen there.

And it'd be cool for him to have something to go after. Yeah. I mean, Elliot, McMurray, Clint, Casey. I mean, those are the four guys that I'm the tightest with that are still, you know, drivers. And it'd be awesome to see McMurray win it. But I think for the sport, it would be cool to see Suarez win it. Because the same thing. Oh, yeah.

T.J. just said, we don't know what's going to happen when McMurray. We're hearing a lot of rumors about Suarez, too. So I think both those guys would be cool. But for me, Swares, you know, being from Mexico, being a historic track, like historical track at Indie. I mean, I mean, yeah. What about Newman? It's almost like there's the hype back again in Indy. We got, you know, Sorres winning.

Ryan's had success. Probably before you were watching the racing. Ryan was, they called him Rocket Man for a reason because he was getting, he'd get the pole almost every week. Every week. So, and it was, I mean, it was unreal. He was like, you couldn't pass him. He's like passing a kidney stone.

Yes. Ryan's been pretty successful. He's had a very successful cup career, in my opinion. He's been on the top, you know, he's done, he's done his time. So, but I think Suarez went in the, that race. Bernard's won it. Yeah.

You know, but that's his home. So any win there for Paul is really big. Yeah. Off the wall topic. I saw this on Twitter. Cussing in public

in Myrtle Beach can now land you in jail or issued a citation. How long could you last there without cussing? Brett, you might get your wish of having to go to a hotel that's a prison.

Yeah. Merville. You're going to jail. I don't even think we need to answer this. You're going to jail. Yeah, I do. I mean, this fine was crazy.

Is this real? You're going to jail. He wanted to go, remember? He said that was his dream. He wants to open up a hotel. I think he would get a couple citations. Then I think they're just taking you in. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a $500 fine. So is that like in a bar? No, I think this is a clean-up Myrtle Beach effort. And it's if we can get... Like out on the streets or something. If we start finding these kids $500 a piece for cussing.

and they're going to stop coming here and causing all this ruckus. I think it's a clean-up Myrtle Beach effort. They're just not saying about that. But, I mean. But no, I ain't going to make it long. I'm going to get fined a lot. Yeah. I'm going to get fined while they're fining me. You know what I mean?

Yeah, he'll be cursing as the right of the ticket. Like, what the fuck? I'm paying that a fucking ticket. And there's your bleep. You're going to, he's going to jail. Yeah. $7,500 later. I could probably, I could probably make it because I don't.

cuss like in front of my kids or anything like that. I try to, I don't really cuss. So I'd probably be okay. Yeah, self-control. I have a little self-control on the cussing. Yeah, but I'll get a couple shots of fireball in you. That changes things, but if I'm drinking fireball, they're probably not around, you know, so I'll be good. All right. Well, Ask DBC. Thank you, producer, Jason. I think these are some great questions. Good. K-Jack, 25, 13. He wants to know. Obviously, Ross Chastain drove a great race Saturday, but do you think his altercation with Harvick will overshadow his performance,

which we already talked about? You know, obviously a win would have been the best thing for him, but I think this is better than a third. Yeah. Because there's multiple different opinions. People see Kevin going there and they're like, man, Kevin shouldn't have done that. Why was he doing that to that guy? Then you got the other half, but it's creating, it's almost split to me.

I mean, it's almost 50-50. And to me, that's like people are on Ross's side. A lot of people are on Ross's side for it. I really think, and maybe this is premature, but I really think about Ryan Priest's and how he came into the sport, a modified driver, didn't get in great equipment, therefore he didn't run great. He went back, got his stuff together,

came back with a little bit of money, and got into JGR equipment and won't race. And since then, proceeds to typically run top five in top five equipment, which is what he should be able to do. you know, this guy got in a car and ran top three, top one, really for the most part, until he got wrecked. So, you know, do I think it will overshadow his performance? No. Would winning the race have helped him?

Yeah, but here's the thing, K Jack, it all comes down to can he bring sponsorship to the table? I doubt very seriously with all Gannasi has going on that they have the resources to go out and commit to finding sponsorship for Ross Chastain. when they're already looking for sponsorship for, you know, the one cup car, the 42 cup car, John Hunter and Emichick, yada, yada, yada. So it just comes down to, did Ross Chastain open enough eyeballs of people he's already talking to? This D.C. Solar deal came about because of a relationship he had with them. They committed to run him three races. Probably going to put him in the Xfinity playoff.

Yep. You know, because he's in a fast car right here when he certainly needs to be. But can those same conversations he's having with this? those types of people, not necessarily that company, create this opportunity again. It's expensive. You know, you're talking about a $300,000 to $500,000 commitment to be able to come run those three races, depending on the timing of the year and where you're going to. So big, big, big chance for him to do something.

Well, let me ask you this. If we've all heard the rumors about, you know, some of the JTD stuff or whatever, Ryan Priest, do you take a chance on, you've seen Ross drive this car like this? I mean, you know in good equipment, do you take a chance on him? Yeah, you can. I mean, to me, this is what Ross is doing now. He's showing these people like, look, you put me in a good car. I'm going to drive my tail off for you.

And one thing I did like about Ross's comments that he said, you know what? If even if he ends up back working on the watermelon farm, like his family's watermelon farm, he's fine. He knows he went out trying. Yeah. And, but I mean, this, people saw this, you know. people that own race cars watch this stuff and say, okay, well, and if you own a race car and you think your race cars are pretty good, you're looking at this kid like, okay, well, this kid's going to take my, you know, 15th place car and run, you know, Ron could run a little bit better with it. Chip even tweeted about how great he was and how he potentially earned some more opportunities. So, Kellyn Harvick getting loose is what caused Ross Chastain to hit the wall, regardless of whether or not he dumped him.

He didn't hit Kevin. Yeah. He gave Kevin no room to make an error, and Kevin got loose. lose. Yeah. And he has more, I mean, he's been in NASCAR for a while. He has. You know what?

He's never really been given that shot. And I don't know if Kevin doesn't see it a whole lot, but in the group that Ross races with when he's driving that, when he's driving the Giant Davis stuff, those guys, it's a dog fight. They race hard. And Ross is used to racing like that. And he has no problem getting in somebody's door. That's just not something you do with an established guy.

if it's two established guys raised something. It's just not something you do to each other at that point. But Ross isn't an established guy. Ross doesn't know if in a month from now he might be back in Florida on the farm doing watermelon stuff. This is all he knows right now. And it got him in trouble right there, but I don't blame him, man. Yeah. It was really cool.

That's for sure. Capote, P-S-H asks who would win first? Mike Harmon and Jason. ADR equipment or Kyle Bush and Mike Harmon equipment. This is a good question. Mike Harmon would win first, but neither one of them are going to win. Yeah, no. Neither one of them have zero.

They have zero chance of winning both of those scenarios. But Mike Harmon would win before Kyle Busch would win in Mike Harmon's stuff. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, Mike's not the best driver, but he's not. He knows how to go around racetrack. Yeah. I'd love to see him get him, Kyle Busch's spot.

Actually, this is funny. I know. I like this. I would have him finishing let's just pick a track Charlotte Roval, Oval, not Roval. Charlotte Oval and JGR equipment. Where are you got them finishing?

What about, what if you put Mike in a in a KBM truck? Does he run good? I think that's, I think that's almost more difficult than Xfinity Car. Because those trucks are freaking, they're crazy. All right. I don't think he's, I don't think he's aggressive enough in mentality.

I don't think he can go up there and run top of him. What if you put like a, put him in the 18? JGR car. I mean, I don't think he finishes, like you're talking, Cupcar? No. No,

Exfinity. Okay, so. I think it's Charlotte and at JGR Cup car, he finishes two laps down and 19th. Yeah, I was going to say,

I was going to say anywhere between 15th and 20th would be my guess. Hmm. Interesting. Which is a hell a lot better than he finishes now. It's twice as good.

Yeah. More better, or more than that. Yeah. Good question, though. Yeah. I like this handle.

Smiles a lot, one. asks, what do you think Indy is going to be like more intense than ever? I'm assuming because of obviously playoff cut off. I think it'll be intense three years from now when you go to IRP. I'm just kidding. I don't know. I mean, I don't really feel like it's any more intense.

It's just you're going to fight for a track position for, you know, all day. You're going to try to get everything you can get in the first lap and a half. And the storylines just aren't there this year. You know, if we don't have a wild card winner, we know who the top 16 are. They're all locked in on points. It would be if we ran the package. No, nobody, nobody, I mean, the only person that can make something happen is going to be one of those guys that's back there, 17th or whatever. And they're going to kick one guy out.

That one guy is either going to be Bowman or Jimmy Johnson. If it's Jimmy Johnson, it's a big deal. And then maybe intensity changes. But going into this, if I'm a top 16 driver, which T.J. and I are both very fortunate. We won races. We've been locked in. You know, we don't, I have zero pressure going into indie. I'm sure T.J. Phil is the same way. If I were in a situation and I've been in them, yeah, it's a lot of pressure. But I don't, I mean, if I'm Jimmy Johnson, dude, he's got seven championships.

He ain't got a pressure to make his playoff. He's going to go out, do his thing. Hope he doesn't have what happened to him at Darlington happen again and put him in a DNF and a wildcar winner come through. And Alex Bowman, maybe there's scenarios that can make this intense. but they're going to have to develop as a race develops. There's not, we don't have, we used to go into Richmond with four to five guys having a chance to get in or out. That's not the case this year. We're going in there and, you know, obviously if Jimmy goes in and has just an average weekend, he's going to be fine. But there's always a chance.

Something could develop during the race. He goes into turn one. There's a wreck in front of him. He's got some damage now. Oh, no. Now things have gotten ramped up a little bit. But going in, if everything goes as planned. there's not really the, you know, we don't have, we're not running that package,

what everyone thought we were going to run there. The All-Star package, they said, you know, they took that all away, which I think would have been, that would have been interesting. We would have been going in here with some unknowns. But there's just not, yeah, there's not the short track Richmond feel like, okay, well, Newman's going to win this race. So we're, oh, no, you know, like Richmond, that was, that was tense. Yeah.

So I think there's been a lot of intense moments to end a regular season and for whatever reason It's because we hadn't had a lot of crazy winners last year You know, that's the thing for me the media and then some people going we need more winners Last year we had crazy amounts of win we had guys winning races it could at times barely stay on the lead lap And this year we don't we have three guys that have won the majority of races which I think is exceptional You know but we just don't have the the things haven't lined up this year for this to be intense had this been going in the last year's race Casey Kane wins in the fashion that he won

Hell yeah, that would have been awesome, but it's all different. Yeah, I agree. So I don't have a rant, but I have a question. Yes. And Casey, I want you to answer this first. Colin Kaepernick. Okay. Nike.

They've been sitting on this for a while. They've kept this guy under contract for two years while he's not been playing. We all know how controversial him kneeling during the national anthem was. when we first heard about it on this show, Kristen Bauer, myself and T.J. and producer Josh at the time, all agreed that they're in the national anthem was not the time to do this. Stand up, put your hand on your heart, pay respect to the country, pay respect to the flag, pay respect to the veterans. Two years has gone by. They've kept him under contract, which means he remains an athlete of theirs. He has an endorsement. When you saw that ad yesterday, what did you think? Because you're in a different age group than I'm in. Yeah, to be completely honest, I didn't read too much into it, but I was very surprised, A, I don't know why they're making it as if it's okay for him to do what he did. I feel like if he wanted to make a stance, there's other ways he could have done it. Yeah.

And I think Nike should have realized that and used it in a different, use it to their, okay, fine, he wants to make, he wants to make, he wants to make, he wants to make. They had this as their 29th anniversary. they could have done. They waited until their 30th anniversary. There's no, like, I don't understand why, the reasoning. I'm not really sure there. And I have to read more articles to, like, actually. Yeah.

I'm sure that they really put out a statement. I haven't seen a statement that they put out. I hope they do. But I'm sitting there, you know, goofing off and looking on the Twitter, and I'm like, you know, I sacrificed everything for a cause. And I'm thinking, you do you just suck the quarterbacks why you're not playing. You take a knee isn't why you're not playing. but what did you think do you see it uh i mean i saw the i saw the announcement um i agree with the playing

thing i watched him play and they actually played the bills one of his last games and he didn't play very well um but i don't you know i'm not a um i think there's better ways to go about what's going on you know and i just think there's better ways to do it i just didn't understand why Nike would want to insert insert themselves into this political arena. That was what I was surprised about. Look, listen, the owner of Nike, Phil, Phil, what's his name?

Phil Knight is worth like 30 plus billion. Nike's a $90 billion company. They knew when they did this that it was going to create divide. I'm really disappointed that a company of their statue would want to create that divide. I don't care where their stance is politically. I have a bunch of Nike shoes

and I saw them people burning their Nike stuff. Man, I paid $100 for my air matches. I ain't even going to burn the shoe straight home. I think, you know, they were right in like Colin. Okay, he clearly is, he shouldn't have done it the way he did it. He was trying to use his stance as a professional athlete to promote a cause. He doesn't realize what the national anthem does and who it represents. I mean, that was dumb.

I feel like if Nike wants to use that in the positive way, take him and actually do something for the community. Take him and go out. to the people that he's trying to. It's just obvious to me. They wanted to create divide. That's my struggle with it. I don't care what their political stance is. If they love Hillary Clinton and want her to be the next president,

want to pay for her campaign, then when she don't win, she gets to keep all the money. That's fine with me. I don't care. I'm not going to, like I said, throw my Nike's way. I don't understand why a company that big, the largest sports apparel company in the world says, let's make a political divide here at America.

That is part of the problem. We just had John McCain die, and all these people are jumping up and down screaming, oh my God, this guy wanted to be an American before a Republican. We need more people like this. Now those same people are going, we don't care if you idiots burn your shoes or not. We like it.

We're going to buy more Nike shoes. And vice versa. The same thing. I'm burning my Nike shoes. Screw this country. You were just saying that, like, it just, I don't understand why people, especially that with that big of a platform,

say, let's create more divide. That's what I'm disappointed in. What do you think they're a student? I don't know. I think they're going to lose some business. People are going to be definitely like, I'm not going to buy Nike C-R. Especially with Adidas looking real good right now. Like, they're-

I don't know if they lose business. I think they... I think there's some people that will say I'm not going to buy Nike. Do you think they lose partnerships? I agree with you. I don't think so. I think they're too important to people. Yeah.

I mean, what are you going to do if you're dicks? I'm not selling more Nike. Well, I think like with sports teams. You already made one bad move with the NRA. Now you're going to make, you know, with guns. Now you're going to make another bad move. Like, I do think they're going to have some people. that don't buy Nike's anymore.

And I also think that a lot of people probably woke up today and went bought Nike's that are pro Colin Kaepernick in his stance. And I know this is a motorsports show, but it's still sports, and this is sports marketing. I mean, think about it that were to happen in NASCAR. I mean, can you imagine? No. We've not seen one person nil during the anthem. No.

Because we know in our world and in our culture and our environment that it's disrespectful. That's the way it's viewed here. And I don't, let me tell you something. If I wanted to kneel during the National Anthem, NASCAR is not where I can do it because that's the stage. And I'm an employee. And if my employer says you stand your ass up, guess what I'm going to do? If he tells me to run in place during the National Anthem, guess what I'm going to do.

You're going to run as fast as you can. If I want to keep my job. Yeah. But, hey, if you're going to do a rally Monday morning, you know, if you're going to do a rally. A local police department. Yeah. Somewhere, yeah. Nothing wrong. You know, that's where I think it's wrong.

I think it shouldn't be done at your place of work. I think it should be done. If you're going to do something, do it when you're not on the clock. And, you know, for everybody to write these stories of like, okay, we didn't get signed here. Well, his contract also was a gigantic contract. Huge. Like one of the biggest ones. Like $17 million a year that year.

And he was, I enjoyed watching him play when they ran the read option deal. Yep, he was good at that. Gosh, it was fun to watch. Went to the Super Bowl. Lights went off, came back on. They almost came back and won the game. Exciting. You know, that read option deal fit him in that team.

Perfectly. And then defense has figured it out. Yeah. And then it went away. It's not a thing anymore. No. You know, and I think, I just think it's, just keeps grasping. Like, you know, I don't know.

Yeah. Anyway, I just want to let's all to talk about it. I was curious what you all thought. Yeah, I think he could have done it a different way. Well, I mean, okay, what is, like, the national anthem is, I don't mean to go into it. But, like, that represents something totally different than what he is trying. Like, he could have gone out to, like, Dunmore communities. service.

I just remember the game he wore cops on his socks as pigs. I mean, that's the guy that we want to be our brand ambassador. Yeah. If promote peace, don't promote rights. I wish the players would just join arms, you know, as one. Yeah. Not, you know, okay, well, you're going to do this. I'm going to do that.

Let's just everyone be together. Yeah. And the last other thing, you know, the Indy dirt race this week. I'm hoping that helps the attendance with Indy, even though the race will be a little bit earlier, like Wednesday, Thursday. Yeah. But it should be good. a lot of cup drivers running.

That's awesome. I'll take, uh, I'll take busher. It's all I got left. Busher is all you got left. This is the last race before we go. I haven't looked at the list, but I do have Jamie McMurray. Yeah, that's. And I think McMurray will outrun,

Busher. I've got Austin Dillon, Ty Dillon, Jamie McMurray. I've got some options. Matt Kenzie. I've got Ty Dillon. You're not taking him, though. Uh, I got McMurray.

Yeah. McMurray is the best one on your list. What is the score? Uh, you're by three, maybe. Oh, so it's either going to be two or four. four. Feel pretty good if it's four. I had a bad stretch.

Yeah. You can recover in the playoffs. AJ, AJ killed me at Sonoma. That's where it really hurt me. That's a two to race swing. That's a 38th, a 19th, a 28th, a 29th. That's not good.

Yeah. You went 6-8, 1411. Yeah, that's a bad swing. Indie's an awesome downtown. Yeah. The racetrack is iconic. I mean, it is iconic. It is cool.

My favorite thing about Indian is. from a fan perspective is if you buy a ticket, you can go in the infield and you can tool around and you can go to all the stuff. Most tracks charge you $100 to come to the infield if you don't have a camping spot. There's always that first cup car that comes down the front straightaway. It's out there by himself. It's usually in the morning, something like that. You're just screaming.

Yeah. I mean, you're like, wow, you're like, dang, he's moving. Bleacher's on both sides. Makes it sound like a drag strip. Yeah. So it's definitely a unique place. I wish we could find a package that was very Indy carish where they could draft a little bit. And that package wasn't that good this year.

Well, we started losing momentum with the tire debacle. Oh, that was 10 laps and done. That was crazy. What year was that? Dale Jr. was already at Hendrit. Yeah, it had to be eight or nine-ish. Eight or nine. Yeah.

Maybe. Yeah. That's when we started losing momentum. And then F-1 went there and had a tire debacle. You know, and then it's like the fans just said, we're only going to support the hometown series. So I hope people come out. I hope the weather's good.

I hope it's not hot for my sake. I don't really care about y'all. I'm tired of being hot. The high is for one day is 80. Perfect. Every other day is like 78, 76. That's awesome. Usually India is so hot.

You're telling us. Darlington, man. Really? Oh, Darlington was hot. I think the track, though, is probably my least favorite to work at just because. Logistics. Well, logistics. And they're like.

They're independent tracks. So they are, they will do whatever they want. If you don't, if they don't want you to park in a spot that says you can park there, they will not let you park there. The yellow shirts. Yellow shirts. I'm going to buy me a yellow shirt and a whistle when I retire. The whistles they have are intense.

And I'm going to go back and harass all y'all. All right. I'm going on that one. Yeah. All right. See y'all. Thank you. One Man, Exalta.

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