Door Bumper Clear - 123 - We Are the Champions!

Episode Date: November 20, 2018

Brett, Freddie, Jason and Cup Series championship spotter TJ Majors reflect on the title race, after-party and blowing motors before covering Brad Keselowski’s role in the final caution, Elliott Sadler’s finale, needing to honor Kasey Kahne and more. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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This is Greg Griffin. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Be ready. New leader. I'll watch out for this guy. White flag.

Reck and I. Hello. Clear. Bring it home. Three light. Coming to the line. Door. Bumper.

Clear. Hey guys. Brett Griffin. Welcome to a championship special edition of door bumper clear. Fulfilling a dream. No. That's right. No pressure. No pressure at all.

T.J. Vanger's giving him the information. No pressure at all. Well, he has risen well above the pressure. And he comes out of turn number four to claim his first ever Cup Series championship. It's Joey Lugano who wins. Man, that's cool. It's not like you had to do much. Say no pressure.

Yeah. At the end, I mean, there was a lot leading up to that. I don't know, man. It's just, we had a, our car was, we knew it would get better as the night went on. And we were good on short runs. We had really good short run speed. Our long run speed got better as the night went on, but I think, I don't, you know, we went a fuel run. We were, you know, obviously we were going to be a second or a couple seconds behind one of them if they could get around us. But man, what a short run deal.

Restart, I wasn't, restarting third. I wasn't really sure. We were going to be able to get around the 18 and the 78 because, I mean, you're running for a championship and those two guys are champions. They're part of the big three. They're hard to beat. How do you get around Kyle and Martin, especially at a place like that? How many times, my question to use this, how many times, and you and I taught before the race. And, I mean, I said based on what I saw in practice, I thought you were the guy to beat.

and we kind of talked about that and you agreed and where your speed was at, whatever, right? So, but how many times during the race did you think, I'm going to win this championship, followed by? Damn it, I'm not going to win this championship. How many times do you go back and forth? Honestly, I didn't really let that kind of happen because I knew things were going to change with the sun setting. Like, I knew the four were taken off at the beginning like that.

I'm kind of glad we weren't super fast in the beginning because I felt like if you're super, for fast end, it's going to change, and you're going to, it's hard. You know how hard is to keep up with the racetrack. Everybody. Oh, yeah. It's hard. It almost has to come to you. It's going to come to you before you go to it most of the time, I feel like.

Right. You can adjust a little bit, but, you know, I was going to wait until the last stage. I wanted to be in the top two or three going in after the second stage. I wanted to be up there where you don't, you're not, you're not starting the third stage, 14th. I have a bad pit stop or something. and have to pass a bunch of cars and change your pit. Like, I didn't want to have to do that.

So, yeah. I knew starting the third stage, we were in really good position to control it. I mean, we had, we were, we could basically kind of do, I think we were, were we leading then. Did we start restart the third stage as a leader? I think we might have. So, yeah. So when you do that, you're kind of, you're controlling it. I mean, you're kind of in control.

They're behind you at that point. I mean, I wasn't, I kind of thought Larson was going to win. and I wasn't worried about him getting to us or beating us or obviously none of us would run the wall. I was going to let it. We would let him go. I mean, you can win the race all you want. You know, the main thing was keeping the 78 and the 18 behind us and the four.

But it was, at the beginning of the third stage, I was kind of, that's when I'm, I didn't really get nervous. I'm like, okay, we kind of have a shot at this. And then here comes to 78. 78 gets real strong all of a sudden. And then the 18 was kind of. trying to hit a home run, and he did. Yeah. He did.

And I'm like, when he was doing that, I'm like, okay, by the last couple races here, we're probably not going to get a caution because they were not throwing cautions for hardly anything. I think, and part of that is because the racing was so good and you guys were all up front. And like you said, you would take off and then, you know, 40 laps later or 30 laps later, here comes Martin Truex going by you. Like it was entertaining. You know, it wasn't like it was a snoozer. No, and there was no reason to try to mess it up unless, like,

obviously the caution came out and to me it was a it was a racing deal i mean i don't you know we i'm not i didn't necessarily want to see that caution then um obviously wasn't against it but kyle wanted it for sure yeah you know and uh i mean watching replay of it to me there was four guys you were you run the bottom right yeah they just went in there and sometimes it's you go in there you need a little room to slide everybody did a couple times every now and then you needed some room to slide up um and four wide So that last restart, I'm sitting there watching it. I mean, I'm sorry, Clint.

I wasn't watching you. I was watching the race. That last restart, man, y'all took the green. And Truex drove into one and just checked out. And I was like, wow, here it goes. Like, he's got to lead. It's going to be impossible to catch him. And then all of a sudden, man, you start coming.

And when I was like, you weren't inching at him. You were catching him. You were catching him carwinks at the time. And then you blowed by him. Like literally. And I'm sitting there watching this thing and play out, and I'm like, holy cow, I was blown away at how easily you drove from third to first. Yeah, when we, honestly, when we got in line behind Kyle, when he cleared us off at 2 on the restart, I was kind of like, man, this could be tough right now. There's 20 to go, 25 to go.

I don't even how many of the worst to go. Probably 20-ish. And I'm like, great. Now we have to pass Kyle and then go run this guy down. Like you said, I saw the gap he put in turn two. So I was like, oh, God, it's going to be tough. I think a lot of that is also the product of racing at Homestead. You know what I mean?

Like, you can race all over that place. If that 78 gets out like that at Charlotte or something, you probably don't get him. You know, you probably can't catch him. But Homestead, like I was talking about above about it, you know, like there's not only you can run all over the track, but like you want to run the bottom, there's three different lines you can run on the bottom. You want to run the middle. There's three different lines you can run the middle. You want to run the wall. You want to run the top seam, you know.

So I think that just played into your hand a lot. You know, when you have a better car and the racetracks as racing as it is, you know, you can make stuff like that happen. Yeah, Joey did a, we had a little bit of practice in the beginning part of the race, where to run, run on the bottom, run in the middle. And our car, like you said, there's so many lanes there. And our car was so good on the short runs like that. He set Martin up perfectly for how he to, you know, push Martin to go to the bottom like that and then just driving to one. I think Martin, I think Martin lifted a little earlier for one than what he had been to try. because I think he thought we were going to run the bottom behind him.

And I think he thought he was going to try to take the air. Because listening to the audio, did you hear the audio? We get up behind Joey or behind him down the front trash. He's like one back and he goes, look and left. And that's when Martin hangs the left to go to the bottom. And we're just, I mean, we. You pull his door off. We went in.

I'm like, okay, if we get to the quarter panel. Right. We got to the quarter panel and the door. And then I was like. You're clear by the center, weren't it? And then the first thing I thought of when y'all got too wide was Martin's Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I mean, and, you know, we've talked about this a little bit, and you run your mouth after this race is over that, well, this guy's not winning this race, and then he drives around you on the outside, like you're parked. If I was Joey, I would have just given the old wave. Did you see Martin's wave to the 72? Uh-uh. And when he was trying to catch us at the end,

there's probably six, seven to go. The 72 just slid up just a little bit. I guess he was running. He ran the bottom, and, I mean, it wasn't bad. Who drove that this week? Lejoy or Witt? LaJoy. I don't think Witt's been in a long time, has he?

Yeah, no. LaJoy had it this week. Yeah, once Joey cleared him. Martin, I don't know if you thought we were passing him earlier in a race. Not too long before that, a couple runs before that, we were passing him, and he made it really hard. Like, he doored us on the backstretch. Oh, really? Yeah.

He hit us in the door on the backstretch. And Joey thought, we almost had a left-re tire up from it. We were checking the left rear. and then did you see it? And then we went into three and four, and we were on the outside, and he just slid up all the way until we basically hit, and then he had to check up.

And he didn't, I mean, I knew that's about as hard as you can race, like, without wrecking somebody. Like, we would have hit any harder than that. We probably both would have spun out. Right. And then when he got to us, he did get to us one time and follow us off down in one, and just, I mean, he was four feet off our back bumper.

I saw that one, I think. Yeah, he followed us off down to one, And, you know, when you're that close, somebody going into the corner, you can't, especially there. All right. These people watch the race. Enough about that. Post-win, championship celebration. What happened?

Well, tech takes forever. Yeah, like, I got a text from his manager, Joy's manager, like, one in the morning saying, we just got done or something crazy. And I'm like, we just got done? Yeah. Yeah. They take pictures all night. It's forever.

They do pictures, media, and the crew guys, after you leave the stage, whatever, they're going by there, tearing the car down, and I mean, they're tearing it down. They're tearing it down. So, we're back there. And one cool thing that I thought was really neat is all the 78 guys were there, too, and majority of them guys came over and congratulated, which I thought was really cool. And, you know, you're still, no matter, your racers on the racetrack and competitors, but once you, after that, you know, it's a family.

You know, it was fun to talk with a lot of them guys about their future plans, what they're going to do and stuff like that. I actually talked to a handful of them, and it was a one's a few that I didn't know. So it was nice to meet a couple of them guys that I didn't know. But, yeah, the tech and stuff takes forever. So post-tech, what happened? Anything fun?

So we all give our rental cars to other crew guys from the other teams. They drive them to the airport. A bus picks us up at the track when we're all done. We put our bags into the bus and the bag, get him. We go to a host. hotel or downtown Miami somewhere. Yeah. And there's a, we go up there, we change, and we shower and change, and we walk next door

to a club, which was rented out. And we go in there and there's a big backdrop of a 22 car. Oh, cool. Yeah, it was pretty neat. And it was basically just a, like a team part, like everybody, you know, and it was fun, man. It was a lot of fun. and I don't, not sure what time I went to bed.

Was the sun up? Did you watch the sunrise in Miami Beach? No, but I probably could have in about 30 more minutes. It was pretty bad. So then a bus picks us up at 9.30 in the morning to take us to the airport. That was rough. Yeah, that needed to be like a 12 o'clock bus ride. Or four.

I got Texas, Dale Jr. said he had a brown bag with you on the way to the airport. I was riding. I was. I was just lunch, right? I went back to the room after the club and I'm not going to lie. It was, I blew a motor?

Absolutely. That's what we want to hear. We could still be friends now. There was no way around that. I had a did you take a shot of something? I didn't need to. I had Long Island iced teas that basically had nothing but liquor in my thing.

That's all they have in them is liquor. There's a little bit of sour mix. Oh my gosh, man. Let's go get one. So, yeah. Sold. So my roommate that I had was our interior guy. I leave the bathroom.

I'm like, God, I feel so much better. He's like, all right, my turn. So he goes back in there and I'm, he goes in there, and I'm like, oh, man, I might have to again. So I walked back into the sink And he's over the door that I'm at the same I'm like I don't know It was bad It was a line

Yes but Uh Siamese puking Broughts me by Joy Lagano Somebody came back with a bunch of biscuits Said I took two bites out of one of them Before we got in the bus I was like yeah this probably isn't going to work So yeah I rode to that

The bus ride on a plane hungover is the worst A bus ride to the plane It's bad I'm not I said it I got it was rough I just sat there Anybody throw up on the plane? No, everybody was good, man.

Yeah. There was a few hurting heads, but yeah, it was fun, man. Really good time. Obviously, your congratulations blew up. Anybody surprised you that you were surprised to hear from, hadn't heard from in a while, or anybody touched you in the fields? You know, a few people that obviously made pretty big impacts in my life, you know, there's a few drivers that text me,

but, you know, getting a message from Dell Jr. you're saying he's really proud of me and stuff like that. You know, there's people that you respect, you know, like that. And there's, I think I had 195 text message or something. And, man, I've answered every single one of them. Right, right. You know, I. Yeah, thank God for group me.

We can get to you a lot easier than text message. Yeah. Well, I figured he was answering this 195 when we were trying to figure out what time we were doing the show. Yeah. You know, getting a message from, like, my parents and stuff, you know, and just, you know, people that, you know, say they've been following you, basically just friends your whole life and are happy for you to do it, you know, and happy to finally, you know, see you get a championship. Yeah.

It's crazy, though. Yeah. Congratulations, man. Obviously, that's special. I want to ask you to rank it and compare it to your Daytona 500, but you've won the two biggest things in motorsports, dude. That's a big deal. Yeah. I mean, if I could just get Darlington and maybe Andy, I could maybe just retire or something.

full-time podcast host yeah something like that if you show up yeah yeah you don't have to maybe sit yeah man that's awesome let's get into this show this is last one of the year one main's been hell of good us over the years i mean they've been in the sport since like 2004 and are obviously leaving at the end of the year have been with elli for a long time along with a lot of guys at roush biffle carl edwards and sad to see them leave the sport but nonetheless a big staple here and and have been the presenting sponsor of this podcast for a while so thanks to One Main for all the love over the years. Had a lot of good friends.

Mary McDowell was there this weekend who was formerly the CEO, thought enough of us to come hang out with us. And I mean, you know how it is, man. It breaks your heart to lose a sponsor, but when they've been as good to you as One Main has been in the sport, it's also cool. And the stuff they've done for the fans, too. We've done a lot of fan weekends and stuff,

and we've done some advertising for that stuff for them, and they've done a lot to make weekends great for people at the racetrack. So, yeah, Bob Hursler was the reason that it got renewed for the last two years. And then Aaron Sagister has been the person kind of behind the scenes that did those kind of things for the fans and spearheaded those ideas and then executed them. So it has, man.

I mean, you know, when these sponsors come in, if they just stick their name on a race car, they don't get anything out of it. But if they come in and leverage the sponsorship and then reach out to our fan base and optimize these B2B deals, you know,

it's a great platform for companies to come in and get leverage. and ultimately get return. It used to be about brand awareness, and we're still the best of that of any sport, but now it's about return to. So it's been fun, man. Been fun to touch their program. I'm going to miss seeing those guys.

But my very wealthy cousin out in Montana sent me a message on Facebook and said, all good things must come to an end. And I'm like, hell he's right. Why? You have a very wealthy cousin in Montana? Well, he actually. Why don't we live in Montana?

He made all his business. money in California. Okay. Weirdville. Then he left Weirdville for Montana, and now he's in Montana. I think we'd look good in cowboy hats. I've got to be honest. Yeah.

I mean, I can't ride a horse. Is this a close cousin? It's close enough, yeah. I mean, he, so he, his daughter's name is Sarah. Can't be too classy Facebook message. I'm not in the next time. Well, I mean, I talk to his daughter all the time, Sarah. She lives in Chico.

Actually, near where those fires were, man. Oh, that cousin. Yeah. You met her in Sonoma. Yeah, she got a kid now. Yeah, she got two kids. Oh, okay. Everybody loved my cousin Sarah in Sonoma.

They're like, who's this blonde up here? She was hot. She was hot. She was pretty hot. When did she come to Sonoma? All my cousins are hot. I don't know what happened to me. She was in Sonoma years ago.

Oh, so I didn't meet her. No, you didn't meet her. Names Sarah. She's awesome. Anyway, yeah, he made all his money, man, in the carrot business. He was like a huge carrot farmer. Check that on the list that I never would have guessed. How'd you make all your money?

Carrots. It was called Cream of the Crop Carrots. And he obviously did farm some other stuff too, but carrots was his bread and butter. Man, he was like the fourth largest carrot grower in the country. Well, I don't care what you're doing. If you're the fourth largest. In the country. You're pretty good.

So, yeah, anyway, I got a rich cousin. Maybe he'll let us... Let's go to Montana. No kidding. Well, let's grow carrots. Anyway, man, I mean, you know how it is. Dude, you're small town, Pageson, South Carolina, which is where he was born and raised, and he leaves and goes to California and chases the American dream, you know,

starts this business, does exceptionally well. So for me, he was always inspiring because I was like, I want to be like my rich cousin in California. So he's a farmer. Well, I never made it. Kind of a farmer. Farmer, yes. Vegetable farmer. Yeah.

That's pretty cool. Yeah. Ironically, I got on a nutrient ag hat today. I don't, I mean, I see that. I see that. Yeah. But, yeah. Yeah.

Brett's off season work is as a farmer. Care. On the field. I can't be a farmer because they have to get up at like 5 a.m. Why do they get up at 5 a.m. Yeah, if I can't farmers, why can't they just switch their hours? Like, why get up early? Why don't just start up like 10?

Because it sunsets, dude. They can't farm after dark. Yeah, but doesn't get dark in the summer until like 9 o'clock. I know, but still, like they got to get it all done. And then they have to get it up before it rains. And they have to get it up before the freeze comes. And like, man, they hustle. Now there are months of the year where they don't, like right now, they're not doing anything.

Farmers are the laziest people in the world right now. I could do that part of the job. They hunt. You'd be really good at that one. My buddy Delbert goes in snow skis. Like he'd get him in, you know, you met Delbert. It's his summer. This is his summer.

This is their summer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They killed a 700-pound bear this week. Black bear season's going on in Belle Haven, North Carolina. Hunts a bear, man. You are crazy.

No, no, no, people that hunt animals like that, like with bow and arrow stuff. Yeah, like somewhere you can't, like, just like, if this thing starts charging at you. Let me tell you this story. I hit him in the thigh. Oh, God. Here he comes. Listen, this is how crazy Delbert is. Okay, Delbert was deer hunting, and he harvested a deer, and he went to track the deer.

You can't just say shot it? When he found the deer, guess who had the deer? The bear. A bear. Guess what he did? He ran the bear off. Like, he's crazy. He's a whole different kind of crazy.

He's a whole different kind of crazy. Can you not shoot the bear at that point? Well, a bear season. They come after you, right? Yes. Is there, the self-defense exists in the hunting world? Well, it's going to if that bear's coming at you. I guess if you got video.

God, man. Anyway, I'm sorry. Jason. Casey's not here. She's still partying in Florida. So I'm going to be Casey today. So spot on, spot off. Nothing nearly as cute. Not even close.

I know. I tried to get Shane at a sub and she couldn't. Well, about the 30-year-old. She could have sub. Look at that. That's a bear he killed. Yeah, and that's, yeah. Look at the tongue.

Who is that? He's got two hot daughters. That's not one of them, is it? And one of, they can probably... Yeah, I think she probably shot it, so there... Yeah. What? Wait a minute.

Is that his daughter? No, man. Maybe not. No, it's not his daughter. No way. Maybe not. That better not be his daughter. Look at the tongue on that thing.

The daughter or the bear? Oh, good. I don't think that's going to be in a show, me honestly. Am I? You never know. Yeah, it will. It's lost one in the year. Casey's not here.

We're not editing anything out today. She ruined last week's show. We had a 15. minute conversation that was arguably the funniest thing we've said all year and Casey made Jason take it all out. So Casey, thanks for being our host. We'll see you when we see you. Yeah. Spot on, spot off. Logano, youngest champion at 28 years old since Kurt Bush won in 2004 at 26. T.J. Spot on. I'm not against it. Yeah, you know, it's, we talked a little bit earlier. It's, you don't think he's that young. Like to me, to me, he should be

early 30s. I mean, when you look at him, you don't think he's 28 years old. Because he's been running, he's been racing in Cups since he's almost, what, 19 or 20? 18, yeah. Okay. So, yeah. But spot on. Yeah, I mean, period.

I mean, anytime you want a championship is spot on, I think that's the thing that. Like, we see NASCAR promote young guns, young guns, young guns. And when they grab those guys, it's the more so the bubble wallaces and the Chase Elliott's and the William Byron's. It's the guys that just got here. and 28 years old, pretty darn young. I mean, when you look at Joy, and if I'm Joy Lugano and I'm 28 years old

and I've accomplished what he's already accomplished, I would be pretty darn happy because he's watching everybody that used to kick his ass for those 10 years while he's been here, leave. So, yeah, he's still going to have to race Kyle Busch a while. Yeah, Jimmy Johnson, Kevin Harrow, a couple more years. But at that point, he's going to be a whopping 30.

So he's still going to have 10 good years left where, I mean, It looks like this is maybe the start of the Joy Lugano era. We'll see. Yeah. Like he said, spot on for championship, obviously. And like you said, you don't think Joey's, I mean, you look at Bubba, Bubba's 25. But in your mind, you would think that there's a bigger age gap there between him and Joey.

But, you know, spot on for him. That was a big bump and run at Martinsville. Everybody wanted to criticize him for, you know, for, you know, maybe being a little rough. But you have no zero shot of this championship without moving that 78 out of the way. He wrecks at Phoenix. He doesn't make it on points if he doesn't win that race. And he wins that race because he got aggressive. And T.J. said last week, I know my driver will do what it takes to win this race.

And it's fun to spot for a guy like that because you don't have to sit up there and go, my driver's going to be Mr. Clean. This is going to be lame. Now, not with joy. You know he'll move him. And I'm not like when, and I'm not like I said before. I'm not like, I like it because he does it. The way you should do it, in my opinion, he doesn't just flat out take you out.

It's like the Martinsville thing, I would expect that. I mean, to me, I would, and that's the guy you want to work for, a guy that's going to do what it takes to, like you said, I don't believe we're racing a homestead if we don't win that race. And like you said, he did not, you know, some can criticize right or wrong way, but you look at the way he did it. He moves them off the bottom. They drag race to the line, run, neutral.

You fast forward, you know, you rewind back a year, the 11 cleans out the 24, getting into three in that same position. And that wasn't even coming to the checker flag. So, you know, like he said, he could. be a little rough and aggressive, but he did, you know, 78 still finished second that race or third. Guess what?

He won a championship because of, yeah, absolutely. He won the race, Martin Truex made second. He won a championship, Martin Trexmichs second. There's your sign. There's so many positives of winning that race. Not only do you build momentum, you're locked into homestead, but you have so much more time to

put on. Yeah, you give these guys an extra couple weeks on a car. They can, you know, they can figure out they might, they have time to, I'll tell all the secrets. They have time to work. Yeah.

I mean, like you know, obviously there's a couple other cars that were pretty much locked in, so you know they were too. Sure. Like, you know the 18 was working on their stuff. Before. Yeah, you know they were working on it,

but that, we probably weren't, we probably couldn't until that win, you know, and we were going to have to work hard on Phoenix, really hard, because we struggled there in the spring, and I knew, you know,

I kind of felt like we were going to have our hands full of them back there if we had to race points, race for points. say this based on what you just kind of said, though, you know, when we look at our tech process, it has to be fixed moving forward. We can't have guys winning races on Sunday and Wednesday be found ineligible because not only is it not fair to the fans, but it's not fair to the other teams. Because if you show up and you're racing legally and I show up and I'm racing illegally,

it's not fair. But at the same time, we don't know who all is illegal. When we get into these playoffs, the tech process has to be the same no matter where you finish. If you're Clint Boyer and you run 12th or you're Joy Lugano and you win the race or you're Kevin Harvick and you run 30th, the tech process post race should be the same for all of you because who's to say that you weren't cheating to run fifth? Yeah. And the guy got caught cheating to run first.

Well, you know what? He should have got caught. But the guy running fifth didn't get caught because you simply didn't tech everybody. When we get into the playoffs, the tech process has to be the same for every single playoff eligible. car throughout the process. And I don't care if they say we're not doing tech at all. That's fine.

But it has to be the same. It's inconsistent and it's almost unfair. You've seen that at the, where in Harvick went? Texas. Yes. Texas. They brought a Ford, a Chevy, a Toyota, one of each, you know, I think it was a 20 and a 12, went with them.

They all failed, every one of them. So you think that if you didn't bring the rest of the Gibbs cars, you know, Stuart Hoss car, whatever, you weren't going to find more of them. I mean, you went three for three on the ones you brought, finding stuff wrong with them. What do you mean? I think we finished third or fourth. We're the first legal car. When, well, how do you know?

Because we didn't get caught. Exactly right. You didn't get kicked. That's my point. We have to come up with, and so I don't know who's listening to this show and who doesn't, but we have to come up with a way to say, playoff eligible cars post-race, here's the process, and if you pass, it's over. We're not taking cars home on Wednesday and making more fines and kicking people out

and more uncencumbered finishes or cucumber or whatever the hell they call them. Like, we got to fix that. So anyway. Spot on, spot off. Two wrecks the 19 to bring out the last caution, setting up the restart where Lugano took the lead. Brett. Spot off.

This was a major mistake on Brad Keselowski's part. It brought conspiracy theorists to the front to say he caused the caution on purpose. You knew that Kevin Harvick was in the best spot to win the race. You knew your guy wasn't in a good spot to win the race. If you bring out the caution, it gives that 22 pit crew a chance. to get off pit road in the top four. It gives Joy a chance at a restart. We all knew how fast Joy had been on the short runs.

If this had been, and T.J.'s not going to own up to this at all, but if this had been any other team in the garage, and if this had been Kevin Harvitt wins the championship and Kurt Busch spun a guy out with 15 to go, T.J. would be jumping up and down screaming, it ain't right, it ain't right, and it ain't right. And he's not going to do that, and I don't blame him. But I'm telling you right now, the optics of this,

when it happened were bad. Brad came off a four loose. Clint drove under him, went to the bottom. was nowhere near him. We caught two lap cars at the same time, getting into one. Clint has a clean view out his windshield. We're not running over anybody. We're not having to drive any differently.

Brad runs in there and just dives on the Suarez's left rear and punts him. And I was like, wow, you just brought out a caution. So whether he meant to do it or didn't mean to do it, I don't care. But it is the reason Joy Laganon won the championship. I don't know how you can, if you watch the video, the 38 goes up into Brad first. I'm telling you if this were different, you would be making fun of this guy. I know you well enough to know that. Freddie, would he be making fun of this guy?

Yes. Yes. This is watching the replay. The best thing you could have known was not tall. Watching the replay of the 38, you know, go up the racetrack and then run Brad up the racetrack. And I know Brad was having, I know his car wasn't a stable in the corner. He was passing a lap car one of the first runs of the race when the 78 was trying to pass him. and he totally went down there and went up there and doored the lap car like nearly like about wrecked um so i know brad had his hands full i'm not saying it on purpose just the optics of it he deserves the criticism

that he's gotten for making the mistake yeah i mean i'm watching the wreck i mean really the 18's the one that needed it right then you know i don't think uh i mean that that's that benefited him the most out of anybody yeah i mean he was gambling anyway yeah but i mean are you jealous that they had better code words than what you guys used in Richmond a few years ago. I never had code words. This isn't, this isn't a lot. That's code word. Like the truck race. This isn't like

you know, Noah trying to ruin down the other guy. Oh, the 54 is in the wall. Or you mean Noah's throwing his water bottle out of his window at the start finish line and hitting a flag stand with it? Yeah, that wasn't. You think a better location than that. Yeah, like, hey, you know what? I'll wait until I get right over here in front of every official

in this place, see if I can launch something out the window. Or the entire grandstand. I mean. Spot off, like you said, it just, it wasn't a good look, but here's where my come in. Like, you know, you've got one of the more fiery owners talking to Brett in Tony Stewart. Yeah. So now this is, you know, it's not going to cost. Kevin wasn't in position to win, and the 78 wasn't.

But, I mean, now, like, you see what happens here. Two spins out the 19. First, I thought, so I was kind of on TJ side. 18 is one needing to caution. I don't initially see it, you know, what happens until the replay comes on a big screen. Yeah. So I radio down there. My guys, because I see the 19th spinning out.

So I said, uh, so was that a legit caution or is that a save the 18 caution? And Drew's like, I don't know if it saved the 18, but it might be somebody else. Yeah. So, but like you said, that's just the optics of it. But like, so now you see that happen. So now, okay, this plays out, you know, 22 is going to win the championship. He's checked out, three to go. Yeah.

You're Tony Stewart. You got three other cars out on the racetrack. You're Joe Gibbs. You've got three other cars on the racetrack. If you feel at all like this two just altered this championship, Everybody spending the 19 out? Yeah. What's to stop you for?

Hey, 10. Yeah. Spend somebody out. Clint, spend somebody out. You know what I mean? So I don't think it was intentional, but it just doesn't. It's not a good look. I don't either.

It's still funny. Yeah. I mean, it's just the irony of it, right? Yeah. I mean, that's what I said. Like, it's not, I honestly don't think he did it intentionally. I don't think that, like, when he was sliding up in the side of him, he goes, hey, you know what?

Let me stay off. But, you know, it is what it is. Congrats, TJ. spot on spot off Cup Championship 4 finish 1, 2, 3, 4 for first time

in history under this format Jason, how are we possibly going to spot off that? Brett came up with that topic. How many hours did you spend to come up with that question? That was soon as Brett texts me, I was like,

I'll write down. This is, I mean, this is crazy. Did you see this coming? I mean, you knew they were going to be the four fastest, but usually the way it works out is you know, you've got guys And we almost saw it because the 18 went on a completely different strategy and was not going to finish probably into top three or four if that caution doesn't come out because he was going to be on older.

He was going to lose so much ground. He was like a fifth, sixth place car all night, wasn't he? Like, he was up top three or four. And then they had a bad pit stop and he went back to, I don't know, eighth or ninth and never seemed like he ever recovered from that. But I don't know if you ever see this again. I mean, not for a long time. I mean, it's, you know, the odds of it have to be like astounded. It's not a trifecta.

That's a quadrophecta. Is that a word? I don't know. That is now. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if you ever see this. Yeah, it wasn't going to probably be that way at the 42. You don't, you know, or, you know, possibly Danny if he doesn't lose his track position either.

Yeah. The 42 was digging. I mean, he was fast. And I'm not sure you would have seen any of us touch him if it's day green off. Yeah, but that man, it's a risk reward. Yeah, that's why we won't run up there. He's up there running faster than anybody can run. And he's going to tear his car up in time.

And like I get it with 30, 40 to go that you go up there and start making that march because that's in the closing window of the race. But why tear your car up halfway every single time you're at a place like that? Yeah, he does it all the time there. I feel like, oh, last year he did a good job. But like he said, like – But last year he didn't race hard. Well, last year he laid over and let them to race for the championship. But like you go up there, make sure your stuff works.

You know, make until nighttime, whatever. Yeah. And then, all right, come back down. You know, you only need 20 or 30 laps to get up there. And, you know, so you make the last pit stop? All right, let's go to the top and hang it out. I asked Elliot, I was like, and this was in the bus after the race on Saturday night, his last race there. And I was like, hey, man, what do you do with your vision differently up top?

Because obviously, you're not able to look as far out as you typically do when you run the bottom. So what do you do with your vision? And he's explaining how you pick the marks on the wall and you're doing these things. And I'm like, I mean, it's crazy. that they all know how to do it and Larson just knows how to do it that much better than everybody else. You could see it too. Like when he, in practice, just the amount of speed he can carry into the corner versus everybody else up there. It was insane. Like, you know, like you said, all the guys know how to do it. He's just a half a second better than everybody while he does it. It's just, you know, it's unbelievable. Yeah, he's real good at it.

Spot on, spot off. Pit Strategy and the high side when Tyler Reddick, the Xfinity Championship on Saturday. T.J. I mean, I don't know how you can spot off for the guy that got him in position. Then I don't know how you can spot off the drive. He put together that last run either. That was probably the best run that I've ever seen Tyler Redick make. You know, it reminded me of Daniel Suarez winning the Xivian championship. That was his best drive as well. When he beat Justin for it, he made zero mistakes, and he ran right against the wall too.

And, I mean, it's just, that's huge, man. Good job on Dave for calling, getting them in there and getting them out. And Tyler for, you know, trying to, if this is a cup car, that probably doesn't, he doesn't make it. But, you know, because he did hit the wall a couple times. A lot of times. And with that composite body, I think that allows them guys to get away with that a little bit more than the rest of them. But, yeah, spot on for that, for them. I'm actually lured into the pit strategy part because for me, the nine just called the race and the double zero blew the pit strategy.

I couldn't believe they stayed out as long as they did. But Tyler Reddick deserves all the credit. I mean, I hate to say the word all the credit, but for the race that he ran and the line that he ran, and he was three-tenths faster than the leader. The lap times. The lap times are huge. He was almost like Kyle Larson was in that freaking car. He definitely drove the best race of his career, and he was the deserving champion in that race. wasn't anybody who drove better racing he did.

Yeah, like he said, spot on for Dave making the call to get him in and out before the double zero. Spot off on a double zero for staying out as long as he did. And I'm still not 100% sure that the nine wouldn't have beat him anyway, even if they come in the same lap. Because like he said, he was so much faster. Like it was the same thing. Yeah, I think Cole acknowledged it in his interview to where he said I could not run the top like he could. I just couldn't do it. I'm not good enough.

Well, you know, he's like, I get better at it. So I don't know, but like Brett had talked about it a little bit Saturday night. Like, I don't know that if the double zero is running even a little bit off the wall and the nine needs the wall, it's still really hard to pass. I mean, he probably could have pulled a slide job and swap lanes with him and got it done. So I think he would have been quicker, but the pitch strategy is what put him into position where he didn't have to worry about that. Yeah, Dave gave him a chance and he took, he did the rest. Yeah. And shout out, I mean, it didn't on the show sheet, shout out to Brett Moffat and his team.

that team was talked about all season long that they were going to have to shut the doors, didn't have the money, didn't have the sponsorship. Brett Moffitt kept winning races, kept the doors open, went out, had a stellar homestead championship night, Friday night, and pretty much wore them out that night. So Brandon is a friend of all of ours, a spotter there. So congrats to him, and Earl Barbin, congrats him spotting for Tyler, exactly what he needed another championship. Earl must be the luckiest spotter on the spotter stand.

He is, by far. What's he got? He's got to have over 10 championships now. We're getting close to it, right? He's got three with this race team with three different drivers. Chase Elliott, William Byer in a head now. Three or four, which does he get both the cases? I don't know how many of Jimmy's he's got. I think five. Five out of Jimmy seven or other all?

I think so. Wow. It's close to that. It might be five. I was pretty surprised. One thing that I shocked me, we talked about a little bit on the show here last week. You know, you talk about Tyler Reddick's background dirt guy, talked about how good Larsen is around the top.

Christopher Bell could not run the top. I'm assuming just car was too free. I mean, I thought he was the, I picked him on the show to win. I thought he had the most speed going into that race. And I just imagine in my head that he'd be just like Larson can get up there and rip the top. And he just couldn't do it. Well, he had been the fastest car. And you thought he was going to be the best driver of that particular track.

And like you said, it wasn't there. This one thing that's not about that is these guys forced Christopher Bell to make a mistake. because they forced him into a comfort zone. They forced him to try to do something that his car just couldn't do at that time. That's the first, that's almost the first, I know he spun out Texas or whatever, but that's the first time that I've seen Christopher Bell make a mistake running up top where he's supposed to be the guy. You know, he's supposed to be the guy that can run the fence and do that stuff. Yeah.

And Tyler Redick and then forced him into a mistake and cost him what he hit flat tire, right? Yeah. Yeah. So they forced the guy that can suppose that was supposed to be the guy that could do that. Yeah. But that's awesome. Spot on, spot off. Elliot Sabler hangs up his helmet.

Brett. Spot off. Terrible idea. Yeah. What are you thinking? Man, you know, I literally even last night was thinking about this. And obviously the race was on Saturday and it's Tuesday. But I was like, man, my two best friends at the track are gone.

Elliot's gone. Will's gone. Damn. Sucks. Does this mean I'm going to have to drink more? Well, it means you don't have a bus on Sunday morning to watch football at. It just, ah, man. It's it.

Touch my heart, man. It was an emotional day. And, I mean, I'm going to see these guys a lot. I'm going to L.A. 's house for a week and two weeks to hunt with some folks that we got coming with Nutri. And then we're going to got more buddies from Myrtle Beach coming to hunt. So, hey, like, I'm not going to see the guy or talk to the guy. I talked to him yesterday.

But it just, it'll be different at the track. It's different. It is different. I went through that this year, you know, and put DUD Jr. last year, and it's just your routine's different. Like, your routine is going to change. Like, you're not just, some of the, I don't want, kind of like your comforts or whatever that you had there and just isn't there as much.

And I'd like to see L.A. get into some, maybe do some broadcasting every now and then. I think he'd be good at it. Yeah. I mean, he's a very personable guy like that, and he's very knowledgeable about the sport and stuff. I think he'd be good at it, as long as we could have a translator. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you just thought, what is the, close captioning on the bottom?

Yeah. I mean, you've been through it. So, I mean, I'm sitting up there and they start praying. And I'm like, well, this is the last prayer. Then they start singing the national anthem. Well, this is the last national anthem. And then you got that five-minute window where you're waiting on him to buckle in and do all this stuff. And I was like, damn, this sucks.

And then he goes, you got a copy? I was like, yep. I ain't talking. Yep. That's all I'm saying. Yep. I ain't saying nothing else. So I'm waiting.

three minutes later. Hey, you still got a copy? Well, what the sht you think happened to the copy? Yeah, I still got a copy? So I'm like, yep. How are you doing up there? I was to stop talking to me. I don't want to talk to you right now.

We'll talk later. So I have Elliott's frequencies in my radios from the races I did with you guys. Yeah. So I'm like, you know, well, maybe I'll switch over there and just say something, you know, like before we rolls off. Yeah. So I switch over my second radio, so I'll listen for a second. And I turn on right as it's like, got me? Yeah.

Still got me? Yeah. How you doing? Hell, I don't know. Yeah, man, me neither. I'm like, these sons are going to make me cry. I got to get out of here. I'm not saying nothing. I got to get off this channel.

I was just like, please throw the green flag and start this race. I've had enough of this emotional. Yeah, it was like that last year. I think one of the, I know winning the 500 is pretty awesome and obviously the championship, but one of the highlights in my career is probably Homestead last year is whenever we went to roll off. and they had all the cars on in turn four, and we started coming down pit road. And every crew guy was out there.

Yeah. That was, and I sat there, and it took forever. I think the pace car came back around. We had to go out there and catch back, you know, run an extra lap, catch back up. Yeah, that was probably, honestly, that's probably one of my favorite moments. When I rewatched the race last week, before, before Homestead, I was watching the race, and it started off, and I had never watched it on TV. I watched it on, I watched the broadcast for the first time of them, and it was pretty awesome.

I'm seeing all them guys out there and stuff. That's definitely top three or four highlights. And that is the crew guys. They're not saying farewell, Dale Jr. They're saying thank you. Thank you. Because we all know this sport was a better sport when Del Jr. was a race car driver. Period.

I'm glad he's still here's broadcast. Don't get me wrong. But, I mean, I walked up to Del Jr. Sunday night or Saturday night after Elliott's race. And I said, hey, man, thank you for three years. Because you didn't have to let Elliott come here. You didn't have to care. You didn't have to want him to be fast and win races. And he did.

He's the one to put Kevin meandering with Elliot, and he cared. And he was in the middle of all that when it went down three years ago. And it's just, I mean, that's a cool way to say, thank you. Yeah, for sure. And it's just, it's cool to see all them guys go out there. And of course, you get to the 43 car that last year, and all them guys had them little gloves on.

They're all waving. That's funny. You know, first thing Dale Jr. says back to me, hey, where's that beer at? Ain't you got a cooler beer out here? I was like, yeah, we got my light over here. Okay, I'll be over a minute. I got to go stage, talk Tyler.

Then I come get me a beer. Speaking of Dale Jr., you know what he's finally getting into? What? You know he's playing on his phone now? Yeah, what's he playing? A little pub? Yeah. Yeah.

I went to bed earlier last night. He texted me last night. You up, you up? I'm like, I didn't text him back until this morning. I was sleeping. Yeah. He sends me a screenshot of, he had like 12 and one mad. I'm like, that's pretty good.

Yeah. PubGian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we'll tell everybody's username. I'm sure he'd appreciate that. up. All right. Last spot on, spot off of the season. 2018 season as a whole. Freddie?

Spot on? Next. Kind of both for us. For me, obviously, it's just fun to be doing what we do every week. What an up and down season for you. Yeah, so we, you know, we come out of the gate, highlight of the season, first race. They don't have a 500, finish second. And then, you know, we had a couple decent runs. We got top 10 at Texas the first race and then kind of took a nose die. low point in the season

Bubba trying to drive through the wall at Pocono. Scared the hell out of me. So then we kind of ran like garbage for, I don't know, felt like forever. It was probably two or three months. And then the last three or four races

we finally had some speed again. We started having a little more fun. So it's good to end on a high note. So kind of up and down season for us. But like I said, we get to do what we love. We get to do it with a lot of our buddies. So it's a little fraternity

we got on the roof up there. So, you know, it's hard to ever have a bad. year up there. Yeah, I mean, spot on for the Cup series for me. Clint won two races. We made the final eight. Had a lot of fun there. Spot off for the Xfinity series. I lost two jobs and my best friend. Spot on for the trucks. My one rookie of the year and some second place finishes there. And definitely learned a lot. Looking forward to working with him next year. Yeah, he's coming back, right? Yeah, well, he's not officially coming back, but they're certainly working toward him being able to come back to that truck. I saw him pull his rookie stripes off. So, yeah.

You're just going spot off on everything, I guess, right? Cup especially. I'm going spot on everything. Best year ever. All right, let's take a break. This is your Exaltar Race Center update on Matthew Dillner. Homestead Miami Speedway was all about the championships. First up on Friday night, Brett Moffitt got up on the wheel

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and requirements of the licensee. For licensing information, visit our website or call us. Let's go into Fastlane now where I'm going to give three topics pertaining to racing and one that's off the wall. Brett, T.J. and Freddie will each have 30 seconds to respond. All of Sunday's Championship 4 now have each won a championship. Who wins their second title first? Legano, Trix, Harvick, or Bush? Freddie? Hmm.

I mean, you're splitting hairs here, I think. I'm going to take Kevin Harvick, just because I feel like he's had the most consistent speed over the last, basically since he's gotten that four car. They haven't been able to close a deal out since the first year he was in it. but like I said, I just feel like he's got the most consistent speed out of the four and maybe next year he'll get his crew chief back and have a little better shot at it. I can honestly say I don't know. And I say I don't know because we're going to run a 550 horsepower motor at like 18

tracks next year that are all nine and a halfs. So when we get to Homestead and it actually is an open motor race, I don't know who's going to have the advantage and who's not because it's a different arrow package. Ford's getting a new car. Martin's leaving and going to Toyota. I mean, looking at the sheet, I would say Harvick or Lugano are going to get number two first. But if you'd ask me this, the year that Kyle Bush won his championship, I'd have said he's going on a tear and he's going to win three in a row because he's that good. I don't know.

I honestly don't know. I was thinking of the same thing with the new package coming in. And there's probably another couple guys you could put on that list that are going to be huge factors. Brad is probably going to be a pretty big factor. But there's also a new car coming out. So I really don't know because if you look at this, like you said, I feel like the 22, we're getting stronger and stronger. But look at that list, I really don't know either. Many drivers will change or leave rides for 2019.

Tricks from the 78 to 19. Kenzeth out, Newman from 31 to the 6. Kurt Busch from the 41 to the 1. McMurray out, Almondinger out to Benedetto from the 32 to 95. Sowers out of the 19 to the 1 to the 3rd. 41, is this much change good or bad for the sport? Brett. How you know spoilers going to the 41?

Jason didn't tell us. You were in the media center all weekend. You must have heard something. Nah, I heard Brett and T.J. say it for the last six months that he was going there. So I don't think we've said that, have we? No. We assume it's happening. No, we haven't.

Jason's breaking news. Or the first of the one. Your professional reputation is on the line right here. Yeah. If it doesn't happen, I'll take all the blame and get Swarrest's the ride myself. He's just going to cut it out. He's going to snip this part out. No, he's not going to sniff it out.

He is. We're in a no edit show. I can honestly say this is a lot of drivers that are changing and that are leaving. And obviously, Casey Kane's not on this list. He's another guy that's out. So, man, I don't see how this much change can be good for the sport because I grew up a fan of the driver staying with his team, staying with his manufacturer. But I hate change. That's why I spot off to everything and has to do with Elliot, you know, retiring.

So for me, man, I just can't be a... I'm watching all my buddies that are my age to leave. I don't like this shit. It's terrible. Yeah, there's a... We kind of... I mean, we talked about this before the way the sports going.

Like, there's a handful of guys that are going to be leaving, and younger guys are going to be coming in. I know a couple of these guys are just switching rise, but we have the younger generation is coming. And it's gonna... We're going to have more of this next year, too, with Christopher Bells. what happens. So is Denny's last year next year on their current deal?

It wasn't. He signed a longer-term deal that would put him beyond 2019. Okay. So. But Casey Kane had a deal this year with Hendrick and he didn't drive for Hendrick. So I'm not saying that Hamlet's not going to drive for Gibbs at all. But there's things that are coming up that there are people have to make decisions. And we see the way it's going. Elliot said this in the media center this weekend. There are more drivers coming. up, then there are seats and there are room for these guys.

Yeah, I can't say it's a good thing. I feel like NASCAR's heyday was just identity of Dale Earnhardt's in the black three. Rusty Wallace is in the black two. You know, Mark Martin's in the red, white, and blue six. Right. You know, and now obviously we're in a generation where we've got a different sponsor, different pain scheme every week, and you lose a little bit of that now.

And then you just put on top of that, you know, guys changing rides. And, you know, this guy's in. a different number. Which one's he driving again? I'm not sure. So I just feel like it's a bad thing when we've got so much change every week. It's so hard to identify where your driver's at.

It's hard to follow. So spotter-wise, Joy Meyer announced yesterday. We've known this for some time. Joy and I talked about it. He even said thank you for not saying that I was leaving the two. But spotter-wise, that's a big change. Brett Keselowski has won a lot of races

and the championship with Joy Meyer and Brett Kazlowski is making a spotter change. That's going to create some spotter turnover. That's definitely going to create some spotter turnover. And I'm not leaving the 22. It's going to get that out there. Hey, that was a rumor. I've been asked that if I had a dollar, every time I got an asset, I would just

sponsor the podcast myself and be done. Yes. Yeah, that's, I mean, it's people assume that. I mean, because I worked with Brad before, and everybody knows me and Brad have been really good friends for a long time as well. So, but, you know, when I made a commitment to Joey, so I'm not. But you're right, it's going to create some turnover. There's going to be some opportunity there for somebody to come in and into a high profile situation, too. Yeah.

That's a job that you want from a performance standpoint. From a pressure standpoint, though, you better be good when you get there. You're going to have, there's going to be, you're going to have expectations. people are going to have expectations of you when you go into that. There's no more, okay, we're 12th, good day guys, you know, everything. There's, okay, we finish. We finished 10th. What's wrong?

What do we need to, you know, there's, it just changes. You can't wreck him in the duel. You can't wreck him in practice at the Daytona Speed Weeks. You can't wreck him in the Daytona 500 or you will get fired as quick as you got hired. Yeah. And we've seen that before, man. I've watched guys show up with new spotters at Daytona and you're like, oh, it's a big deal. thinking, yeah, that guy can't spot as good as you think he can.

Bam, they wreck, and you're like, uh-oh. Next thing you know is, bam, they're making a spotter change before the Daytona 500, and you go, wow, and I go, nah, saw it coming. So this job, to me, has that written all over it. You better be good when you get there. Like, you better be a T.J. majors that's going to get there and win Talladega and be competitive at Daytona. You can't get there and suck because you will get fired.

And I'm not going to lie. Those are big shoes to feel, is what I'm saying. Leaving with Dale Jr., there was. sort of a, like, you just had that comfort because, okay, he knew you, you were just, you, you, you were comfortable. Yeah, you didn't, you didn't feel like he was gonna fire you. Yeah, he wasn't, he was going to fire you. Yeah. You go to another company when, okay, I don't, I know Joey well, but I'm not, you know, I didn't, you know, I, I, I don't, I, it wasn't, you haven't been friends with him for them for that long. So, you go in there and now it's time, you have to perform.

I wrecked Elliott Sadler more than one time. And not one time did I ever feed. that he was going to fire me. Had I wrecked Clint Boyer in the first practice at Daytona when we got to MWR, I would have been, I would have been fearing that I would be fired. Yeah. And we do wreck them sometimes. And I'm assuming, last time I talked to Joey about this,

he was just like taking the pilot's role for Brad. Right. I mean, is that? So, like, you know, his post yesterday, I seen, like, I think I popped on Reddit for a minute about people talking about how it's terrible. They fired him. He's really not, I mean, he doesn't, he's not, fighting for Brad anymore, but Brad still keeps him on as his pilot because he does such a good job

as a pilot. He wanted him to fly his family back and forth as what we were told and stuff like that. So, you know, but like you said now, do you want to be, I've always said something, you never want to be the guy after the guy. You got big shoes to fill. Joey did a great job, one plate races, championship, you know, anything you could think of in the sport. And now you're going to go in there and Joey is still sitting in the bullpen if needed. He is sitting there. So if you go out there at Daytona and suck in the first practice and the duel a shootout, there's a guy I've won plate races with sitting right here. So, like, you know, it's a tough deal. And I still, you never want to be the guy that replaces the guy. It's a fitting thing, too, man. Like, I mean,

I look at Clint Boyer, and I said this 10 years ago about Clint Boyer. I would never spot for Clint Boyer. That's what I said. And the reason I said it was, Mike Dillon was spotting for him at RCR. Mike Dillon's also the general manager, former driver, Richard Childress's son-in-law, talk about it comfortable. So with that said, though, Mike Dillon had a lot of roles going on that he had a job to do. And he was like, Clint, I can't spot for you. We got to get a new spotter. They hired Timmy Fidoa to come in.

Didn't mess with Clint. Clint said, he ain't doing my cup races. You're still doing my cup races. Hired Jimmy Kitchens. Both of these guys are former race car drivers. Both of them are good spotters, I'm sure. Timmy won a championship with Harvick and won a pile of races. Timmy Fido can spot races.

But for whatever reason, they didn't mesh. Jimmy Kitchens, Clint Boyer, fired him before the Daytona 500. or didn't match. Mike Dillon still spotted every single cup race until Clint left RCR to go to Michael Walter Racing. So with what you're saying is whoever comes into here, I think TJ's point is they're going to be looking over their shoulder going, uh-oh, uh-oh, I better not screw up because he'll come right back in here now I'm out of a job. Yeah, I mean, I don't, there's definitely going to be the thought of that. Like if you do and you go there and you don't, you don't feel like you perform like you should, but, you know, there's just just the performance in general. Like, Brad's going to

have a certain level that he expects you to be at. And, you know, you're going to do your homework and be prepared. Yeah. What team or driver do you think needs to work the hardest this offseason to improve for 2019, TJ? Um, you know, I think I still, I'm still kind of, uh, I think Hendrick needs to, I've just thought they come out stronger this year with the new car and stuff. Um, the 42s had a little more speed than, than what they have. And, but I'm sure though, you know, those guys are, they're no sloshes or they know what they're doing. I'm sure they'll get it, but I think those guys will, I definitely feel like they're going to come out of the block stronger next year. As far as teams go, I think they all have to.

Nobody knows what we're getting ready to walk into next year, you know, with this new package. So they all have to, I mean, if you base it off of this year's, obviously my team's got to work a little better, you know, just to be more consistent. We've had our ups and downs. We need to level that out. Like you said, Hendrick needed to show more speed. I think they were probably a little disappointing this year with, you know, what they had going on over there. But, yeah, I think everybody's going to have to work their asses off next year just to, you know, keep up with the Joneses. I hope the 14 works the hardest, and we come out of the box the best.

But looking at what this question is, William Byron to me is a lot better race car driver than he showed all year, which means he wasn't comfortable. He didn't like the balance. The team wasn't meshing. Something was wrong over there in that particular team. Guess who's going there? Chad Canales. that guy work ethic is beyond what most people's work ethic is.

So I feel like if you asked me to sing a lot of team, I would say 24. But you just said it right, Freddie, everybody's got to work hard because we don't know what we got. Yeah. Off the wall topic. If you can invite three celebrities, an athlete, an actor, and a musician to your family's Thanksgiving dinner, who would you invite and why, Freddie? Huh. Let's see. A musician, Billy Joel.

I love Billy Joel, Long Island guy. Love it. Athlete? I don't know. I'd say, man, probably like Wayne Gretzky or somebody like that. I'm a big hockey guy,

so why not invite the greatest hockey player to ever live? Yeah. Talk to him. Actor? I got no idea. Maybe a guy like, I don't know. Tom Hanks or something.

Tom Hanks seems like a cool guy. Tom Hanks went a whole movie and didn't even talk to anybody. Well, that's how good he is. You know why I like Tom Hanks? Did you ever see that one set of pictures where the guy's, poor guys, passed out at the bar, and Tom Hanks goes over and puts his arm around him,

and he takes all kinds of pictures with him drunk, and the guy has no idea until the next day he wakes up. I love a guy like that. And he could probably do that to me after a couple of weeks. Tom Hanks actually sent a video into Dell Jr. when Del J. really? See, I picked the right guy.

Del Jr. has been a huge Tom Hanks fan for a long time. Athlete, that one's hard for me because I'm such a huge, I guess athlete may be Tim Tebow. He was my favorite college football player. had the opportunity to meet him briefly on a sideline at a South Carolina game. Actor, hands down, Vince Vaughn. I met the guy, hung out with a guy. He is the funniest dude.

The two funniest guys I know are Vince Vaughn and Blake Shelton. It's not ironic these guys are famous. Like their personalities are bigger than life, and they're just funny dudes. But Vince Vaughn is hilarious. Musician, if I could bring a dead guy, Michael Jackson, but he's not coming. So I got Justin Bieber. You just said Blake Shelton is the best guy you know and you didn't invite Blake. Well, I already eat.

Is he going to be a lot? He's probably going to be there. I'm drank a lot of beer with Blake Shelton. I don't need him to come eat turkey with me. I would probably ring. I'd bring Morgan Freeman just to do the prayer. Yeah. He'd do the prayer.

He would have been my second figure about it. Taylor Swift, just be fun to look at. And athletes hard, man. I think you're still drunk. Man, athlete. There's so many that I would pick. but man I would probably just bring one of my I'd probably bring like Jim Kelly or something

just somebody that I've watched when I was a bill guy I was gonna like so where I was gonna go with athlete was Lawrence Taylor but I don't know when this is taking place and if he's gonna be in jail or not at that point so I went with the safer bet I'd like to have Bodie Miller over too I was a big fan of his man he's a skiing Is that how Bodie got his name?

It is that's where his nickname came from yeah that's why he's called Bodie because I'm a huge Bodie Miller fan is Bodie's name not Bodie's body's no it's Brett junior. Is it really? Yeah. Huh. But he don't know that.

Because I don't want to confuse. When are we going to tell? I don't want to be like, hey, I don't want to be Bodie. I want to be Brett. I'm like, no, you can't be Brett. I'm Brett. If I couldn't get Jim Kelly, I'd probably just get Kenny Powers from his baseball days. Ask DBC for the final time, 2018.

I've chosen some good questions here. NASCAR Josh asks, does being part of a championship winning team raise that spotters profile compared to other spotters. I don't know. You don't really judge a guy. You know, I mean, I guess it raises your level a little bit with them because you are a champion now, but everyone, we are a unique T's driver most of the time. You get hired by a guy because that guy likes how you spot for him.

But it definitely doesn't hurt to put her to have it on your resume. I mean, it definitely, there's nothing bad about it. But I'm not, I don't look at Freddie. and, you know, think any different than Freddie because I know Freddy... Because he sucks. Fred sucks. But I might think Freddy sucks a spotting,

but that really means absolutely nothing because the guy he spots for thinks he's awesome, and that's really all that matters. That's all that matters. That's all that matters is you make the guy in that car, and I'm assuming Freddie gives good info and makes the guy comfortable and can do his job better. This has never happened before, but TJ is being modest.

TJ's profile is skyrocketed because he won the championship, His Twitter has blown up, his Instagram, his MySpace. Everything has gotten bigger. MySpace. I mean, we just heard in the intro, Rick Allen, called T.J. Majors by name in the final 30 seconds of a championship event. If that doesn't make you higher profile, I don't know what does. His autograph time is real short in the garage on Sunday, but now I guess next year it will be pretty long. But like the questions about, you know, does it raise it with us?

And like you said, I don't look at T.J. any differently now because he's one of a champion. I know he's a good spotter. I've heard him spot. You know, I think it's hard to find a bad spotter up there. I mean, there's a couple. I'm sure we can point him out if we had to. Not that hard. But, like, you know what I mean?

Like, the guys have been doing it for a while. You know. Yeah. Like, you don't need accomplishments to know that they're great spotters. You know what I mean? So, I mean, I don't, like he said, it raises his profile probably outside the sport a lot more. To other spotters. Oh, I don't.

Oh, no, definitely not. You can't read. I can't. I know. I wasn't listening. I'm sorry. No, his profile actually went down with me. Yeah, I can't stand his ass.

I'm just, if he would have showed up and told us he didn't drink, I wouldn't even have been friends with him anymore. So that's the only thing that raises his profile on me that he puked on Saturday night. Like that raised his profile. Now I'm really proud of it. Now I'm proud of your character. Yes. It was rough, man.

At SVT, Cobra John asked, if they can get inspection done on championship night, why can't they get it done every other weekend? I don't get it. The answer is they can get it done. They do. The question is, do they want to stay as long as they did that night? And I mean, I think the answer that you're looking for, John, is they can get it done. They have to get it done.

And we have to stop. I don't have an issue with them in pounding cars and coming back and going through them and then coming back the next week to the teams and saying, hey, guess what? We found some things at our little inspection thing on Tuesday and Wednesday. And you better not bring this stuff back to the racetrack because starting now, we're going to look for it at the racetrack. But on Sunday night, we have to know who won the race. And we have to know that that guy was deserving. And if he wasn't, kick him out and let the next guy win. It's not that hard.

Yeah. At Nell 88. Ask, do you all have a favorite moment from this season on track or otherwise? I think we know what TJ's is. I mean, that Talladega win was a big deal. Honestly, you know, they're all, all of them are pretty big this year. Talladega, because it was, that was like the first, that was the first win there,

the first one with Joey. I'll be honest. I mean, at plate races. majority of the reason why Joey probably wanted me over there. So that was big to get that out of the way. Locked us into the chase. I knew we had enough speed in the beginning part of the year. I thought to make it to the chase anyway.

But Martinsville, man. Martinsville does not suck to win at. Martinsville is awesome to win at. And then to go to Homestead and win at a track where, or go in there is the fourth guy. You know, we were the fourth guy. Everyone, like, I'm reading all these predictions, like all these guys. Everyone's the Harvick, you know, Kyle, Truex.

They're all, nobody says. And the guy, I see this one guy say, oh, 22. And I'm like, who is that guy? You know, I didn't even know the guy's name, but you see all these other higher profile media people. Oh, Truex is going to win. Harvest's going to win. And I'm just, honestly, I just sat back and watched it all and knew. I knew what we had going into there.

We were fast at Texas. We were fast at Kansas. We've been fast when we needed to be. And to have an extra time on that car for them guys to focus on it more. And, you know, I knew we were going to be a factor. And I just, I was quiet all weekend. I didn't go up to the guys. And normally I'm a little aggravating.

Probably at some point. Yeah. TJ, we all know. Your favorite moment was from February to November. Great answer. Freddie, what are you guys? You know, on track, obviously we talk about finish. second Daytona was great. Probably my favorite moment of the year where, you know, Daytona's

Daytona. It's kind of crap shoot. We miss for X. End up in the right spot at the end, end up getting the second place finish. We actually finished like crap in this race, but that first Bristol race, you know, we had good speed, drove up, booted Brad out of the way, took the lead. You know, I thought like, wow, we're going to have a good year. Obviously took a nose dive after that, so that's probably a low point, but I think that was my favorite moment of the year, on track, off track. I don't know. I probably don't remember my favorite moment. We probably had a couple of them. My favorite mall, my hands down, was a beer toast on Pit Road with Elliot at the end of the night on Saturday.

I mean, you're commemorating a 20-year friendship relationship, and you're just saying cheers to it. I mean, telling each other you love each other and walking away from that was certainly the most sentimental. Obviously, like TJ said, man, as far as they win, winning Martinsville was phenomenal, having a clock in my dining room that I get to look at. We swept Martinsville this year. Yeah. This room did, huh? Yeah. I mean, being able to look at that clock anytime I want.

Clint came over for trick-or-cheating, brought his little kid down to the neighborhood. And I'm like, how you like my clock? Tell what time it is in there? And he's like, oh, that's cool. So, I mean, I think when you look at it, I guess what we're really saying is, man, it's just the relationships. You know, Freddie and I have a lot of fun off the track. We have a lot of fun with our drivers on the track because we have good relationships with those guys. Yeah.

All right. Any rants to end the season? I got a problem. I do, too. I got a big problem. I just have a rant. Here we go first. I got one too.

Let me go first because mine's probably compared to you guys. I just, here's my rant. And it's almost a question to you guys on top of a rant. Okay. So a lot of other sports have a deal where

Monday night football ends last night, a reporter is not allowed in that rock a room for 15 minutes. And they call it their cool down minute. You know, their cool down time so you don't say nothing stupid. Boo. Do we need to do that in here

to prevent these guys from looking like idiots? because Martin Chewix gets out of his car in Martinsville. That guy's not winning the championship. I'm winning it. I don't care what. He's not beating me. And then he drives around you on the outside and you don't do a damn thing about it. Like you look like an idiot at that point.

So do we need to let these guys cool down so they don't put themselves in a position where they look dumb? That made the storylines for the rest of the chase, man. I'm not saying it was good. What they need to do is let them guys in a locker room after the game. That's what they need to do. I don't really want to see that. I think they need to be miced up and we can pay for a percent. subscription to that player's

that game, I probably would. I just want to see all our guys do the post race with no shirt on like the locker room deal. I don't think anybody wants to see that. That would be awesome. Well, Denny's washing your car. Remember that commercial? Wouldn't you like to see Mike Harmon shirtless

at an interview? Yes, that's what I was dreaming about last night. Get him and Morgan Shepherd in there at the same time. Morgan on his roller skates. That would be a phenomenal post race. That would get more YouTube views than anything we've done all year in this sport. If you go to, like, local places, there's people.

There's guys that get out of their cars and sit there. We got a guy, me and Dillner, you know, I'm growing up around Riverhead Raceway. I don't think I have ever seen J.R. Batuccio with a shirt on post race forever. Like this kid modified kid, as soon as he got to the track, I think he took his shirt off, tied his fire suit around his waist, and walked around the pit area the rest of his career. No shirt on. I mean, that's all we ever saw. He should get a driver suit.

With this. It looks like he's not wearing a shirt. Yes. That's funny. What you got, though? My ran is, I've had a few people, like just people that tweet, and there's only been a few that say, well, you know, he didn't earn that. I don't, how can you say that it didn't earn it?

Who said that? There's a couple, only a few of them, but. It's mean people on Twitter. Cowish fans, I bet you $100. Maybe. I feel like I've seen somebody tweet this about this. I think it was either Weaver or Gluck, maybe. And it was, you know, somebody said that.

You know, 22s is, I hate this. because 22 shouldn't be in it. You know, it should be the guys that performed all year. And he put the stats up. And the four best average finishes of the year was 78, 18, 4, 22. The next thing, the next four best, same four guy. You know, so like you obviously earned your place in the chase. You do what you have to do to get there.

And you made the most of it. I think since Watkins Glenn, we've had the best average finish. Or average our point. I think it's been an average finish. Since Watkins Glenn. you had the third or fourth best average, you know, of that group, whatever it was. Yeah. Since the Glenn, though, I mean, I saw the stats from that, and I think we were the best by two or three spots. Mine's not a rant. Mine is a request.

NASCAR and Homestead made a gigantic mistake at the end of the year, and they had between now and the Cup banquet to fix it. You have got to bring Casey Kane to that racetrack for the last race of the year in his last attempt to run a full-time season. This guy's career was cut short due to health reasons. And I reached out to his people because it made me mad after the race and nothing happened. And I reached out to his people and I said, please tell me that you were invited to come be a part of this. And you just said no. And they said, no, nobody invited us to come do anything. Listen to me.

This guy's won 18 races. He was a big deal when he got here. He was our version of new kids on the block. He brought a lot of young teenage fans here, a lot of young, a lot of female fans to the sport. He's a good looking guy. A 18-time winner, all-star winner, it makes us look bad as a sport to not recognize him and what he's done. Everything

that they did for Elliott Sadler on Saturday was phenomenal. It'll make you cry. And everything that they did for him on Saturday, they should have done the same damn thing for Casey Kane on Sunday. And I'm biased because I'm friends with him. I can't wait to see him at his retirement party. I won't tell you guys where it's at so you don't crash it. But it pisses me off that we let this guy pour years and years and years into the sport, do what he's done, and just abandon him as soon as he's not buckling

into a race car. Yeah, it would have been nice to see Casey there. I think it had been cool to see him walking on the garage area for sure, and just recognizing him because he has done a lot. Yeah, like you said, like, I've only been around the Cup Series for five or six years now. So the beginning of their career, you know, Junior and Casey, I felt like where the biggest fan gets when I was, you know, the early 2000s or whatever it was. You know, every female you talk to, her favorite driver was Casey Kane. Obviously, Junior's most popular driver for 37 years in a row. Yeah.

But, like, if it wasn't junior, you were on the Casey, I think, would have been the next most popular driver. Just because of the demographic he was bringing in at the time and everything like that. So it is a shame to see that, you know, he didn't get his well-earned respect. Five seconds is a rookie. Went on to win 18 races. One in every national touring series that you have, an all-star champion, recognize him. That's all I'm saying. You got from now to the banquet to write this wrong.

And if you don't do it, man, what a tragedy. What a shame. What a shame for his fans, because as you just said, his fan base is large. They deserve to see his legacy put to an end as far as the NASCAR side goes. What are our offseason plans? Got a couple months before you've got to go racing again. Yeah, I wish. That was true.

I'm leaving today to go to another race. Well, I'm leaving today to go to a race in Jersey, Turkey Derby. I see, actually had a couple listeners tweet at me that they're going to be there. Oh, cool. And you'll love the Turkey Derby. We've got to bring you, I think, I can't say really on air. But next year is a big turkey derby. Yeah.

Maybe possibly the last one ever. Oh, really? So I did that on air, but whatever. But you would love this place? It's a B-Y-O-B track. Really? And you can drink in the spotter stand. Come on.

Not saying that I've done it. Much. But, you know, so I'll be there next week, spot for Jimmy Blewett, and then I'm going to snowball derby the week after that, and then I'll be done with the racing season. So I'm not smart enough to quit. I hope that you eventually take a week off from racing, TJ, and I hope you have something.

You guys got to have a big something playing. I'm going to Vegas and then leaving Vegas the night of the banquet right after it's over, pretty much getting on a red eye and flying to Orlando and driving over to a cruise ship. Oh, don't. Cruise with a family. So, yeah. Y'all do that a lot, man. Y'all love Disney.

Yeah, we are a big Disney family. My wife does a lot of travel stuff. I'm surprised you didn't want a Disney princess to come to. Thanksgiving lunch earlier. They're already there. You probably make Tamla dress up as one. Roll play in there, Thanksgiving. Ah, no.

No, we're not going to do that. This is one of my favorite weeks of the year, Clemson v. Carolina, and me and one of my best friends, Sean, we're going to Charleston for a few days. And then next weekend, I'm actually going to get the make-up game. South Carolina is playing some team I've never heard of. Akron, maybe, or somebody. It don't matter.

That's going to be tough. It's going to be a party. It's going to be fun. And then I kind of go into wind down chill mud. I go hunt with L.A. for a week. And then you guys don't believe this that are listening. But we'll blink and then we'll get our Daytona it, it's an it like, Daytona.

Well, they text you first and say you've got to come give a urine sample. And then you go do that. And then they say, okay, you got to go Daytona. And you're like, what happened? Where did these 10 weeks go? I wanted to throw up yesterday. Somebody posted like 90 days till the Daytona 5-00. I'm like, shut up.

I hate you. I unfollow Larry McRennells. during this time of the year for that very reason. Count it down. I don't want to see it, buddy. It really, it's like 83 or something right now. Shut up. Yeah.

No, thanks. So if we do any off-season door bumper clear, check out Dirty Mo Media, social media channels at DirtyMone Media. We'll let you know. T-pop might be busy. Thanks to Jason Schultz for all year. Your commitment, your commitment has been great. Your producing has been great.

You do way more than Josh. Major major, major upgrade. Dillers put a lot of work in this year. to make the dirty moment of your platform better. Thanks to donor for that. Freddy's been filling in. Thanks for coming. Casey, we love you.

Sorry you didn't come to your last show that you'd ever done in your life. TJ's obviously been here, but what makes this guy special is the fans. And you guys that listen. If y'all don't listen, we don't do this. So they haven't renewed our contracts for next year yet. So make sure y'all tweet Mike Davis and we need a raise. A rate. Wait a minute.

Hold on a second. Well, you have to make at least 10 shows to be eligible to get paid. it Mike Davis, they want to raise and pay for some. Sorry about that. We only get paid like 25,000. That's all. They hired, I need, I'm going to have, I'll have Briscoe come over here and negotiate my deal.

Yeah. Oh, my. Yes. Or Joe White. Yeah. Well, they hired donors, so we're screwed anyway. Yeah. There goes the budget for that.

Yeah. But it's been fun, man. You guys have a great offseason. Maybe we'll do a special show around Christmas or something. Yeah, we need to. We'll do one. Before Christmas, probably. Yeah.

We'll have time. Do one between Christmas in New Year's. Oh, shrug your shoulders. At a bar. You afraid of work? He didn't even want to do his show this week. He wanted to push you the next week because he's got turkey. Yeah, you guys want to push the show back.

Guys, Dells Union needs four days to record his. Marathon show. Yeah. All right, thanks to one main for the last three years. Thanks to Exalta in the Exaltzata studio. Yeah. Thanks, everybody. Thanks for all your little press conferences that you go to.

I saw Jason in the media center this week. I saw him in the garage area. Yeah? He tried to big dog me, but then he didn't realize I saw him. No, I saw you. You were talking to someone. I'm not going to. Yeah.

No, he tried to big doll me with his sunglasses on. I'm not saying this. I'm not saying this because you're sitting in a room because I'll talk about you in front of you. You are what all these kids that are 20 years old need to be. You've been busting your butt. You know, you obviously are chasing your education. Not in the club scene-wise, but I mean as far as it's working. You're willing to work, you're willing to go to conference.

You're willing to give up a lot of your personal life. At 20 years old, I wasn't doing what you're doing. Except for that professor you have that didn't like the idea. Skipping class. That's because she's an idiot. I play this episode for her. But you literally have made me proud to watch you. I've known you for a few years, obviously,

because you were running around the sport trying to find a job, an intern in here and intern in there. So, man, you're doing great. Good things are coming your way. I think one thing we do have to do in the off season, because I'm not sure where it falls if it's before Daytona or not. It's Daytona weekend. It's Daytona weekend?

Damn it. His 21st birthday. I mean, who else could take him out but us? I don't understand. Why is that a bad thing as Daytona weekend? You don't want us. I mean, are you going to come? Are you going to come to Daytona?

I don't know. Jason, listen to me. You do not want us to take you out for your 21st birthday. It will be the worst decision you will ever make in your life. But it's right before your big race day, so. They won't matter. Yeah, well, we don't have to, we don't have to drink. You do.

It doesn't mean. It just mean you guys. I got to drink more. You do not want to make that. Mistake. I definitely think we need to do a birthday deal for you one time. Maybe not there, but we'll make up for it. We'll just pretend it's your birthday the week later or something.

All right. Thanks for listening, guys. We love y'all. Yeah, thanks everybody for the whole year. And, man, what a season. Yeah. It's been fun. Congrats, champ.

Thanks. Are we queuing the music? Are we queuing it? We are the champions, probably. fulfilling a dream. No, that man. One six, no pressure at all. T.J. Vanger's giving him the information.

No pressure at all. Well, he has risen well above the pressure. And he comes down to turn number four to claim his first ever Cup Series championship. It's Julie Lugano who wins. You've been listening to Door Bumper Clear, brought to you by One Main. For updates on Elliott Sadler and the number one junior motorsports team, go to One Mainracing.com.

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