Door Bumper Clear - 124 - Tequila Shots and Motorboats

Episode Date: February 18, 2019

TJ returned from Disney, Brett brought tequila, Casey got married and Jason turned 21! The season debut episode with guest Freddie Kraft breaks down Daytona, previews group qualifying with the new aero package and includes birthday shots.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got here. New leader. Watch out for this guy. White flag. Recognize. Hello.

Clear. Bring home. Free light. Go to the line. Door. Bumper. Clear. Hey, everybody.

I am T.J. Majors. And spotter for the 22 cup car, the 99 truck. And I don't have Exfinity a whole lot. Are you running any Exfinity? I do have a little. limited Xfinity schedule, similar to last year, about five, six races maybe. That's cool. Brett Griffin Spotter for Clint Boyer this past weekend, Ross Chastain in the Xfinity

car, and Mike Snyder in trucks. And we got a buddy of ours that, for some reason, we let him come on this show again. He's not even considered a special guest anymore at this point. He shouldn't be. He's special. On the sheet, he's a special guest. Not, I mean, special in a few other ways, but definitely not special guests here. He is special for sure.

And I'm Casey. I don't spot. You didn't even let him talk yet. I know. Geez. You're special guys. By the way, we're going to bypass you. I'll just sit over here.

You point at me when you want me to say some, Casey. We are off to a great start, guys. Is that you screaming in the intro? Give me what you got. No. I don't know what that was. I would never say give me what you got. Why did Dillner put that on that script for that opening?

That's a good question. Corny. Do you ever scream like, whoo in the radio or whatever? Give me what you got, Clint. Give me what you got. Come on. man, we got to redo that thing. That's awful.

Terrible. He's not happy. He's got arms crossed shaking head back here by the scenes. Casey has a new name. I do. Yeah. Casey, Boat. I don't, I still have not responded to it yet.

I want to propose a new middle name. Motor. Casey Motorboat. You old sailor you. You motorboat and son of you, you old sailor you. I have not heard that. one yet, but there's the first time for everything. They built for speed or built for comfort?

Yeah. Whoa. That's my favorite movie. I'm sorry. Are we all right in bed? We are a minute and a half into the show. First show of the season. A minute and a half.

I told you a little fired up this morning. Oh my gosh. I've been literally sitting on this for weeks because one night I was laying in bed and I was watching that movie and I was like. Oh, what movie was that, Brett? Casey's last wedding crashers. Oh. And I was like.

I want Casey's new middle name to be motor. Well, that is not happening. I didn't know if you were... I mean, that's part of being a spin car owner now. You should... I mean, that should be fitting right in. How does... Hey, Freddie, you got to talk into the mic.

Okay. Yeah, you're forgetting already. I feel like I'm really low. I was really loud a little while ago, and now I can't hear nothing. Your face is really red. Look at it. I think he got tickled off the motorboat. He did.

Look at his face. He did. So, Casey, how was your wedding? I'll be a red face. Oh, it was awesome. All motorboating aside. How was your wedding? I would gladly do it again.

I'm ready to do it again. You want to get married again? Same guy. Same guy. Let's get this straight. Same person. But my dad's baking count may not be able to hashtagging your wedding. It was something boat.

Casey's dream boat. That's right. Mine's way better. Casey had a fun wedding. Oh, I have some pictures of Freddie. I should have brought them in. Nah. That's okay.

Yeah, we got a whole season to. Yes. I can unveil them each week. Yes. Let's do that. I think we should print them and prop them up. A couple like every now on it. When I'm not here, you can sit them in my chair.

We'll put one right here. Freddie, what did you think of the wedding? I said it was great. I mean, do you remember it? I mean, I remember a good chunk of it. He ended up at Saeeds. That tells you how it was. Hey, me and the legend, Billy Boat.

Chad's. Chad's dad was at Saeed's. Our entire wedding was at Saeed's. I was not at Saeeds. This doesn't sound very classy. I mean, it was classy. Saeed's is not glassy. The reception was not at Syed's, but after.

Saeeds, that's the place. It's a gas station. Is that the big tree in the park a lot? Yeah. Didn't they used to have a big old tree there? It's karaoke bar. Still there. Yeah.

Easier to go outside to go to the bathroom inside? It's an official shisho. Every night. Don't recommend the jello shots. Oh, I don't recommend. Speaking of Jello shots, during the Xfinny race, I'm watching the race, you know, when I look down, there's this guy that's got, like, the Jellot shot man shirt on or something, and he's got a big bag

and he's just winging jello shots to people in little plastic cups whoever puts their hand up would you would you feel safe eating one of those no but they did I mean we get drug tested

so we can't just eat random jello he was throwing I mean he had a good arm he was throwing them pretty high up I thought it was nice as them to do I mean when you make a shirt and wear it you're probably legit yeah you know when you make a shirt

for doing that like I feel like you're probably legit I personally Legit A legit jello maker? I mean That's your thing You could literally make a shirt And just write a little

I know but who's gonna go through All the hassle with that to make a shirt And then make all them jello I mean he showed up with like a Like a pizza bag Full of Jello shots like huge thing And everybody that put their hand up He was winging him

How many times you go to Disney over the winter? Oh man Too many Too many Yeah There's something weird about that about what Disney? Him and this princesses thing.

He has daughters. I know, I got daughters. Yeah, but he's the one into the princesses. Well, I don't tell my secrets. Get my secrets away. This is getting weird. So what else did you guys do this off-season? I mean, I lost

majority of my savings at Disney. So we came back from a cruise. Was it a Disney cruise? Absolutely. I'm not allowed to do anything else, I don't think. So we come back from, I watch the Super Bowl on the boat. Go Patriots.

Shut up. What a creeper in the background over there. Look where that come from. We go to, we're scheduled to get off the boat Monday. We're going to the park for a couple days. Guess who wins the Super Bowl? And guess who's coming to the Magic Kingdom that day? Tom Brady.

Yes. So, and there is nothing. It is shoulder to shoulder at the Magic Kingdom with nothing but Patriots fans. You want to talk about miserable. That is miserable. It was ridiculously bad. Happiest place on earth. No.

Never. Not that day. And they bring Tom Brady and Julian Edelman around. Edelman. Edelman, whatever you want to calm. He was up 500. Great. Yeah.

So there will run around us. Calm down in there, man. We can feel your excitement blowing out into this room. He's in a room, but I can feel him breathing on my neck. Yeah. He's, so, but it was interesting to see. all then people there. You know,

I took a picture of, I'm not, never forget it, just go ahead. I'll show you, I'll show you later. I can't start a story. So I'm,

that's what girls do. I don't like, I don't like, I don't like playing against him because he's really good and I'm a Bill's fan and we usually suck and he beats us.

So I don't, I enjoy his skill and he's one of the best, maybe the best to play the game. But so my wife looks over at me and I took a picture and then she looks over at me, and I may have been telling Tom Brady he was number one,

and I got in trouble by her, my wife. Oh. Did he see you flip him off? I hope. I don't know. He loves the haters. Like me and you could chicken fight not be tall as he is. No, he is.

Tom Brady. Tom Brady is. You can get all my shoulders, and he would still be taller than us. Yeah, and probably with both of us at the same time as well. He's a big dude, man. I can see why he never gets hurt or has a hard time getting hurt, but he is.

but uh yeah Patriots fans everywhere miserable no don't ever do that freddie raced all winter i did hey did you did i raced all winter i raced all week last week was miserable want a race thank god made up for the 14 races i bet freddie's already done like 30 races since we left homestead i've done uh i've done like 17 since homestead congratulations yeah your poor wife how's that go what an idiot you what an idiot you what an idiot Who does that? I'm me. That's a little much, man.

Hey. Well, most of them are in Florida, though. Yeah, majority of Florida. One was in Jersey, or actually, like, three were in Jersey. But, yeah, just keep digging. We had a, we had a, I think there was a Super Bowl. Was there a Super Bowl this year? You had a Super Bowl party, but I don't know that there was a game at it.

I think. There's a game of beer pong. Jellow shots. I don't think there was jello shots, but there was every other kind of shot. So you ever heard of this game called left-center right? It's called LCR. It's left-right center. Whatever.

We call it. We call it LCR. You have dice and you have this thing and you have the ability to win money. So we do a pot and the richest guy to buy in. I didn't say we did pot. We did a pot. There's the random. Sign us up.

I piss X. I'm good. I've already had the random. So by far the wealthiest guy that bought into this pot is Daniel Hemrick. Guess who wins the money? Daniel Hemrick. He wins $250 before the game even starts. Just took my $20.

It was nothing. Thanks for coming. Yeah. That's just what they do, man. They come in and like they pay more or they make more. Yeah. But it was fun. I remember the next night, I think it was Monday.

I went out of dinner with Brett and watch the game for the first time. So it was a really way. I was on the Patriots and I was on the under. So I was really happy while all these people were complaining about the game. I was really happy. I mean, we had just left Vegas a week before. So I was able to put down some bets out there. I don't think,

I thought the game was a... I enjoy a defensive game, so I thought the game was good other than I'm okay with the Rams winning, so everyone goes to Disneyland instead of Disney World. Clint still owes me $300. I'll never see it, but he owes me $300. He calls me right before the game.

He said, I want the Rams. I said, man, I love you wanting the Rams. How much we bet? And he's like, $300. I'm pretty sure Dale Jr. owes me between $300 and $500. We had a bet in the offseason who would shave first.

And I knew he would have to because he's going to have appearance or, you know, he's going to do TV. Yeah, well, he's going to, this is a few years ago when he was still racing, but he had production days coming up, so I knew he would have to shave, and I won the bat, and he has still yet to pay me. So maybe when you figure out how to get Clint to pay you. Is that a hate for Dale as he listens to the show?

I think, sure. Just leave him a note on the table. Give him my money. He knows he lost. Wait, I've been dying to ask, Jason, how much have you drank? so far since you turned 21. A lot of water. Four root beers.

Four root beers. Four root beers. There's plenty of proof. There's one picture of you holding a beer. I don't see any of it. Not to mention if you look at it. Not to mention if you look at the bottle, it's still full. And the labels turned around, so it could have been anything.

Yeah, root beer. I'm sorry. Caught on to me. We're going to change that today, Jason. Just so you know. Oh, I cannot wait. Jason, have you done any shots? I never have done a shot.

Never? Ever? Ever? Yeah, that's why I'm more concerned about this post show. There's a brown bag. There's a brown bag in the studio today. What's his post show? Jason. We're going to celebrate the end of the first show.

What did you get? Now, we're doing this at the break. We can't wait until the end of the show. I've got to wait till the end of the show. I've got to control this board. He's going to throw up. You got it. This is, so when I turn 21, I drank like $5 stuff, like aristocrat vodka or something like that.

You know what I mean? This is a very nice tequila, Jason. So it's got a cool. Happy birthday, even though we're going to let you take it with you, but I'm going to drink some of it before you do. Deal. Deal. Oh, that's concerning.

Well. It makes you really hot when you tell you. Like, you're kind of red and pinkish in there now. It's funny because you drink enough and it makes everybody else really hot, too. It's really weird. Watch. Whoa. It can easily make a six go to an eight.

I will agree with that. It, uh, oh gosh. Jason, I'm excited for you. What if he gets hives or something? Oh, God. Alargic, too. You be all right. And TJ's going to have to come edit the podcast today.

Nobody's allergic to Aguave. Isn't that what this is made out of? What is you called? Agave. Agave. Aguave? I don't know. I can't even say that next word.

Azul. Did you drink a model of it? Yeah. Agave Azou. Agave Azul. You sound great when you say it. From Halisico, Mexico. This is Casamigo. I'm guessing that's holisico, not.

Jalisico. Yeah. I don't know, though. All right. What do you want to talk about? All right. Yeah, let's go into some changes that occurred to this off season. All right, let's do shot.

Of course he won't. Anything new? We can share? Anything thoughts on? I mean. Inspection. I think we're going to find out more on how the inspection process is going to go. Once we get to Atlanta and stuff.

I mean, honestly, I thought about it. you know, maybe we do inspect the cars too much sometimes. Maybe we, maybe we don't need to inspect them before practice. You know, and I'm fine with the after qualifying thing. If you're not right, you're done. Yeah, why not? So I feel like they're tightening things up, but as well as like leaving the door open for, you know, okay,

they're definitely leaving the door open before, you know, qualifying and stuff, but they're definitely, hopefully there's no gray area. Look, if you don't pass, you're back, you're in the back. And nobody, you're going to want track position, I think. So I feel like this is, I think it'll be okay. We've been saying on this show for years that if you cheat, you shouldn't get the win. You shouldn't get the trophy. You shouldn't kiss the girl.

And so I think it's a big step in the right direction for NASCAR to say we're no longer allowing that. I mean, we've been saying on this show for how many years? How many years have been on this show? This is third year or fourth year? Fourth season. Holy cow. Fourth year. Y'all are old.

TJ, you age very well. I know, man. But back to my point. It's definitely a move in the right direction. I guess the big question is who's going to be the first one kicked out? Because somebody is going to get kicked out. And here's the thing. How quick are you kicking them out?

Like is it seven minutes into tech and you go, oh, we found something. You're done. Go get second place. Or is it an hour and a half after you tore down the whole car? So I'll be curious to see, you know, what that process looks like. Obviously, quick is better. But you've got to get it right. You can't get it wrong.

You can't kick a guy out if he's legal. So again, hats off to NASCAR for making this move. I mean, we saw them make a lot of changes. You know, here's a weird thing for me, man. Like, I really enjoy the champion making a lot of noise over the offseason. And for whatever reason, I felt like Joy Lugano was quiet for the most part. Maybe that's his life. Maybe it's his lifestyle.

I don't know, but I didn't feel like there was a whole lot of momentum around Joey Ligano being a champion. And the reality is they had talked about young guys so much. Joy's still a young guy. He's not even 30 yet, right? No, he's not. So I didn't understand why we had a champion. I mean, but I'm a guy that appreciates somebody like Gronk. Like he's going to win a Super Bowl, he's going to go party, those NHL guys getting out of the found.

Like, man, I love to see people celebrate, and I just feel like the Lagano legacy of that championship offseason was really quiet. All of the noise and news came pretty much from NASCAR, you know, and it was layoffs, and it was teams closing, and it was all this stuff going on. And I don't know. That was a weird offseason for me. I don't really ever remember one being like that. Yeah, I mean, he was busy. I know he was very busy. I guess we'll just have to win it again,

see if we can make it louder. Just going back to inspection, my question is, they do three or five now, like in tech after they're doing? Three. Three. Oh, cars. Yeah. So last night you've got a Joe Gibbs, one, two, three.

What if they're all cheating? Yeah. And if one's illegal, there's a chance. All three are. You know what I mean? So now you're going to like is the fourth place guy got to hang out and wait or you know like now he's gone now you don't tech him like no he didn't get teched he just gets to win. Yeah he just gets the win you know so there's some stuff that has to be worked out about it. Hopefully they can do it a little bit faster in the future because they were there.

Last night last night they teched. Yeah, we were fourth or fifth and got teched. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. If it's the top five I think you won't have a hard time running into that. I would probably definitely go top five. Yeah. Because I think the top three like you could see last night and like at a.

Talade Eaga last year when you guys were all up front. Like you could have a team full of cars up in top three and they could all get tossed and then what are you going to do? I mean, I think you, you know, I think definitely if there's all team cars, you do two behind it and maybe a random or something like that. I'm not, you know, something like that. You're right, though. One car has an issue and are all teammates.

Odds are the other ones might too. Yeah, for sure. But as like as far as other changes though, I mean, I know they made a lot of personnel changes and stuff, but the tech is changing as far as, how they're doing things. There's a lot more computer stuff. There's a lot more, you know, kind of hands-off stuff that's being teched.

You know, and it's kind of that OSS or whatever is replaced. We used to, when you go through tech, you remember watching them go through tech, you know, 10 years ago. And there was six, seven people around that car at one time with templates fitting every little thing. And now you're all into that deal. And that, I mean, that thing's replaced. How many people would think that thing replaced? six to ten at least so i mean everything is kind of getting more um computerized and uh you know kind of streamlined a little bit too if we're not teching as much you know it's kind of going quicker

but i mean i i don't think any of these are negative changes i think they're all for the better yeah um NASCAR's off-season layoffs we've already talked about it but specifically david hoots he called his last race on sunday i mean there are a lot of layoffs not only on the NASCAR series side, but specific to teams too. I feel like this offseason was more so than any others. Yeah, the Hoots thing hits us hard as spotters because he is the guy that is telling us, you know, what to do ultimately. When the cautions are, when we're going green, he's responsible for the cleanup. And I can honestly say you're never going to get a guy better at that job than David Hoots.

And it's unfortunate for all the 40 of us, but it's also unfortunate for the fans because because there's going to be a transition here where the cleanups are going to take a little bit longer and the race is going to not run quietly as smooth. I mean, when we had the class the other week, it was different. Was the class the one where we? Yes, it was bad. Yeah, class was different. How so?

Just in the efficiency of it. You know, I felt like there were several times where we didn't, we just weren't efficient with the cleanups and efficient with going back green. And that's extremely important because you can lose a listener. can lose a viewer. You can lose a guy sitting in the stands and that lull is an opportunity to lose. So you've got to have that guy be spot on when he's doing his job. And, you know, David held a spotter's meeting in Daytona with all of us and he basically said he didn't understand why he was being removed from that position. I was kind of surprised that he told all of us that. But it tells

me that he wasn't one volunteering saying, hey, I'm done. And look, layoffs are part of business. I mean, David's been there for a long time and I'm sure was drawing a hefty salary, but I don't know that you can put a price on how good he did his job. No, we're going to feel that for years to come, that his presence not being there. He's very, he knows, he knows just from doing it for so long. He knows what cleanup truck is where and who's in it almost in every single truck. And that, that's almost priceless.

He knows these people. He knows exactly when to release people. He has a great feel for the flow of how the race. race goes. He knows when we're going to try to trick them. He knows when we're going to try to trick them and line up stuff. Yeah. And he doesn't put up with it. Yeah. We found out in the meeting that he's basically designed the timing and scoring system. He's on the patent for the timing and scoring system. So he knows that system inside and out. And like you said, he can call us on our BS. Like, you know, if you're getting ready to get lapped, your pit box is screaming. Oh, there's debris over there

in turn three and he'll get on the radio and go, yeah, the old 43 is calling in debris. What a convenient time for him to do so. You see anything out there? And everybody's like, nope, I didn't think so. So, you know, he just, like you said, he just knows the ins and outs of it, like nobody else. And like Brett said, you're never going to find a guy that can adequately replace him. Yeah, he'd get the oil thing. Oh, the crew chief says there's oil over here.

He would get back out. Yeah, tell him, you know, nice try. I see where his car is, you know, stuff like that. Sports going to move on. It's moved on from everyone. You know, no one person has ever. held the sport back, and it's going to be different. And they've been working on this for a couple years because they brought a couple new people into the tower,

put them on the radio, they've trained them. You know, David was always in the booth with them. It's a big responsibility. Like how we do our job and how they do their job are very similar, but at the same time, very different. Because they go to work when the caution comes out. We kind of stop working for the most part when the caution comes out. So there's a lot of moving parts and pieces to do that job. I mean, David is basically, we're spotting one car.

David's spotting all of our cars, all of the safety equipment, the racetrack, the pace car. The people jumping out of trucks. Yeah, the officials, the track. He's just got such a good feel for what's getting ready to happen. He sees stuff coming like we do a lot of times before it happens. You know, and he's got a really good eye for that stuff. And it's going to be hard to, you know, it's going to take some time to get someone else to the level that he's at, just from experience. If I were the Indy Car League,

would hire this guy tomorrow. Jay Frye, who is obviously the president of IndyCar. He has a lot of NASCAR ties. He used to work at Hendrick. He ran MB2 Motorsports. He ran Red Bull Racing. Gave me my first job? Did he?

Oh, he did do that? Yeah. So I wouldn't be surprised at all, man, to see David Hoots end up as race director for IndyCar. They may have one of the best ever, but I promise you, he is good David Hoot. I told Herm to hire him for the RC track. If he can't get nothing else, he's come over there and hang out. RC race. RC race.

Yeah. Maybe he can, maybe eye racing or somebody can hire him and he can do the online series. He should be somewhere because he deserves it. He's a good dude too, man. Really good guy. Group qualifying remains in place to spite new rules package. What do you guys think about that? No comment.

I don't know. I don't see this. This is going to get chaotic. NASCAR is aware that we're all worried about. it by the way and they said we're in the show business deal with it that was their response when they were asked about it at a media day the other day let me just tell you guys this Atlanta is going to be a little bit different because Atlanta does eat tires and there is fall off so when we go out there in a group we're going to run one

lap and we're going to come in what you need to realize is when we went to the Vegas test we didn't really get fast as fast as we could possibly go until our fourth or fifth lap now that may be a little bit different when we trim it out tape it off and all those things but the problem is We're four-tenths to eight-tenths quicker, depending on what track we're at when we're in a group. And by group, I mean a group of cars in a draft. So what we're doing is looking at what the truck series used to do, and that was a dog and pony show. It was a complete shishow.

It was. And all we're doing is saying, watch, we're going to duplicate that. So you're going to, the first guy to leave pit road loses. The last guy goes the fastest. And I don't know how teams, manufacturers, and us as a sport can do this at places like Vegas and not look like. a bunch clowns. It's going to be hard. And guess who the biggest responsibility of this whole thing is going to be on? Spotters. And obviously the driver's got to put it in gear and he's got to match the gas. But they're going to be depending on us to put them in the best situation. And the best situation is only for one guy.

Yeah. Everybody's going to have the same plan to want to be last. And it's like you said, you'll be five wide leaving pit road, dragging off, trying to get to the back and make it back with one second left on the clock. Yeah. The top 24 I don't see as being a big issue because I, you know, as, as, it's, close. They've tried to create a lot of parity with this rules package and the horsepower change. It might close it up a little bit more now. It may, but I don't see you and I having an issue making the top 24. No, but someone like Ross, someone like Ross lays back and gets a run. Someone like Ross lays back and gets run. He's liable, he's smart enough, he's liable to get a big enough draft and pull up there in the top 12. Yeah, so I just think it's, here's my thing about qualifying, and I've said this before. I respect qualifying because

is it's the man and the machine and who can go the fastest for one lap. And I don't see these cars. You can't really wreck these cars because they're running wide open and they have so much downforce. We were running 182 miles an hour on the straightaway at Vegas and 178 miles an hour in the corner. So you're virtually wide open. And for you to be able to drive it wide open isn't necessarily a big testament to how much talent you have as a race car driver. So we're taking that and saying, okay, forget you going fast. Now you figure out how to go fast around a bunch of people that are all trying to use you just like you're trying to use them.

It's going to be a big, big challenge for us this weekend, I think. Yeah, I think the biggest challenge is how do you decide who's going first? If you're rolling out with a group of people, how do you pick who goes first? I mean, for a team like Penske with four cars, you almost have to draw straws and go, okay, this is the number. And every four weeks, we're going to change it. You know if people see other. for rolling. They're going to tag on to the back of you.

Yeah, and we're going to pull them faster than what we're going to go. Which is why we all are going to sit down at the end of the pit road. I know. It's just like when it was the trucks, it was just qualifying draw. If you got lucky enough to draw on the back of the line, your first run and practice, you better stop at the end of the pit road, get you a good time. And here's the thing.

And here's the thing, too, that was in the trucks. No disrespect to truck drivers. But these cup drivers are way better than they are. So they're smarter than you are. They have more talent than you have. They have more skills than you have. it's going to be. It's going to be different.

It's going to be entertaining. I think it's going to rain on Friday in Atlanta, so maybe we don't have to deal with it. It's going to rain all weekend in Atlanta. But when we get to Vegas, this is going to be a dilemma. It's going to be a dilemma. But didn't they start when they started group qualifying? They did do super speedways for a little bit, and then they realized that was a shit show. Yeah, the show.

So it could, I mean, they could start it out and midway through decide to change that. Reed Sorensen pulled down in front of it. of a pack of three cars that were running 200 miles an hour, and we all destroyed our race cars that had a plate track and qualifying. And then you had guys slamming on the brakes going to the high lane, trying to get, you know, trying to, and they weren't going all the way of the high lane. They were kind of making people like, oh, I got a lift, messing up runs. So you never know.

It could change, but it'll be interesting to start for sure. I'm curious. I think the whole rules package has to evolve, you know, and it's either going to go well or it's not going to go so well. And I think by May, we figured out that if it's going to work or not going to work. And the same thing for this qualifying. I just hope, you know, I hope by Fontana that the drivers are going to be the ones who have to get it changed. Spotters can't, I can't, we can't say anything that's going to make a difference to the guys in the tower.

But if enough drivers are jumping up and down and screaming and they actually realize, okay, this is not working. But it's just going to be nuts. Yeah. It is because no one's going to want to be the first guy. We're all going to race back to the line and barely make the line by it. whatever seconds, and there's going to be sometimes you make it, sometimes you don't. The three of us are on three different teams, and every one of our teams is going to call us and go, hey, here's what we're going to do. We're going to get behind all these guys, and I'm going to say,

yeah, and the other 40 guys that have the same exact plan as us, so how's that going to work? Yeah. I am personally a big fan of kind of what Brett said earlier, of the, you know, I want the driver to go out there and lay down the best lap that he can, the fastest lap, and I realized back then you were lifting a lot more, and it was more of, you know, okay, how, How brave is this guy going to be? Now it's not quite, it's not going to be to that level. I mean, we could probably qualify the cars. Yeah, it'll be more like Daytona.

That's what they should do. Let spotters qualify. I'm all for it. I am down. There ain't enough backup cars in a world for us. You hold it wide open. How hard would it be? In a group.

Have you seen some of them guys on the roof? I mean, I know who I'm not following most of them. There's definitely ones that I wouldn't follow. All right. Right, spot on, spot off. Okay. Spot on, spot off. Spot on.

Spot off. You say spot off on a punch. You spot on and spot off. I'm going spot on. So spot on, you like it. Spot off, you don't like it, and you say why either way. Thanks, Jason, for that intro. Yeah, that was a good one.

I worked real hard over this off season. Good job. Yeah. Over a root beer. All right, first one. Joe Gibbs Racing finishes 1, 2, 3, as Hamlin wins the second 500, or his second 500. Spot on, spot off, TJ.

Spot off, I was really hoping it was going to be two, three, and four. But, you know, it's hard for me, you know, to not be happy for that car because that's J.D. Gibbs' car. That's one he kind of started and picked Danny to be in, and this is the first race, you know, after the death and stuff. So it's kind of hard for me. I'm really happy for them. That organization, you know, Coach Gibbs,

and even seeing, you know, family members and stuff on social media, how happy they were. It's hard for, it's a good, feel, good story. I mean, I wanted to win, but, you know, it's, I'm happy for Lambert the spotter. He's a really good dude, really good guy on the roof. Happy for him and his family to enjoy this again, because he's won another one.

So, but, you know, I'm happy for him. I mean, I don't know how you don't spot. Off it. I mean, I've been in the sport 21 years. This was my 20th Daytona 500. At some point, it's going to be my last one, right? And there's a chance that that was my last Daytona 500. And that's the only two places, three places I really wanted to win when I started in a sport were Darlington, Rock and Ham because they're an hour from where I grew up.

And I've been fortunate enough to win there. And then the Daytona 500. I want to duel at Daytona three times, but never the 500. So, man, I felt like just pure... night for me and Freddie wouldn't have had a couple beers and had tears in our beers and but for the Gibbs guys I echo everything that the J. said obviously it's it's kind of a crazy story how Joe got started I mean he made a pitch to interstate batteries saying I want to go racing and he didn't have a shop he didn't have a driver he

didn't have anything and interstate batteries said okay and so he had to start everything up from scratch and you know that that can still happen in today's world but it would be a heck of a lot harder than it was, you know, 20 plus years ago or whenever it was he did it. So spot on for what they've accomplished. There's no denying how good they are. I mean, to finish one, two, three is huge. But at the same time, it did what had been doing the last few years. We just waited until later to do it.

There was a lot of cars torn up. I don't think there were probably eight or ten cars in that lead pack at the end. And it makes sure chances of winning a whole lot easier. Yeah, spot on, obviously, for, you know, the whole Gibbs family to, you know, kind of come off that. lowest of lows to get to the highest of highs for Daytona. So, you know, spot on for them, spot off for us. I rode around about 80 mile an hour all day long, and that was no fun. What happened to make you?

I think we'll get to that in a minute. Be in that position. It's on the sheet. We'll get there in a couple seconds. I think we should go into it now. I'm going to save my energy for when we get to that part of the show. But, yeah, so like you said, spot on. And like you've seen this the last couple years with these plate races.

you know, the Penske guys got out front. They can control the race, dominate the race. Stuart Haas guys did it last year at Taldega. Gibbs guys got locked up at the front this year. And it's a testament, like we talked about the teamwork again. I mean, you've got a green-white checker, and Kyle lets Denny down in front of him instead of trying to get, you know, Joey. I mean, it was to block you.

I mean, that was what it was. Like, they're trying to box you in back there. So, I mean, you were probably their main threat coming to the, you know, the green-wide checker. That's why they did. That's why they did it. You know, so, but I mean, it's still ultimate test teamwork. You're sitting on the front road the Daytona 500 with a green white checker and you let a guy pass you and get in line in front of you.

Restored before they raced. Yeah. Yeah. But once we got to third, they were, we pushed at 34 from fourth. We were six. He was fourth. We pushed the 34 and we restart, and we almost pushed him to the lead off of two. So I'm pretty sure they didn't want that to happen.

Yeah. I think it was like Weaver tweeted something like, as you guys are coming to the green. He's like, that's weird. I think I'd rather have the 22 push me than the 34. I said, no, he's going to have the 18 pushing him. He'd be right. Yeah. Lugano upset McDowell didn't work with him as a fellow

Ford driver on the last lap. I know, TJ, I'm going to have to ask you this one first. I mean, am I right for being spot on or spot off? Because I'm upset about it as well. Yeah. You know, we have meetings and Brett knows. We have meetings as a manufacturer to work with each other and help each other when we can. And

The only way that they won, the Toyota's won that race because they were committed to each other. You know, and I know their teammates, but same manufacturer. You know, I thought we would get more help from somebody that, that comes. This is a smaller race team, but they're in on our, they're in the manufacturer meeting stuff. Whenever we make plans and do stuff together, they're in there. So it was a little, I wasn't thrilled. I mean, he kind of said he made a split-second decision to what he needed to do to win the race. And I'm not sure what decision that was from that point because, you know going into turn three,

if you're fourth or fifth, you're probably not going to win, especially when you got the talent in front of you up there. When you got Kyle, he's going to be hard to pass. You got Danny and then Joey. I mean, it's going to be hard to pass those three guys. So you push the guy that you're most associated with, in my opinion, or your manufacturer and try to get the best finish for them that you can. And, you know, maybe you push us through, then you get around us.

Maybe you get to second. I don't know. But, you know, he made the decision, and I can see why Joey was upset. I was a little upset as well, but it's part of it. McDowell said that Joey had damage, too, so you don't want to push him, and that the forwards weren't friendly to him that weekend. Oh. So, yeah.

So that damage sure did push him all most of the lead, so. I spotted before I went to Petty, I was out of front in Roe Motorsports, and I can understand 100% what Michael McDowell is talking about. about because there is a Ford Alliance and it's Penske and Stuart Haas and if the other guys want to tag on to it they can if they want to but they don't get exactly the same information that the other guys get of you know the strategy of the race and everything like that and I feel like if the roles are reversed and I'm sure they were in the race Joey's not pushing Michael McDowell Joe's going to do what he wants Joey Legano is one thousand percent not pushing Michael McDowell Clint Boyer made it

three wide on Michael McDowell when we cause that big wreck getting into three because and here's why we know our cars are faster than his car so why would we ride around behind a guy that's slower than us yeah um i got i got a i got to respectfully disagree to some extent because if i'm in the daytona 500 i'm going to be extremely selfish with two to go and i said all week we all need to work together until two to go and at two to go made the best man win but what really surprised me about this race is it almost came down to track position. You know, those guys that came out off pit road under that real last pit stop

before we all started wrecking with 30 plus laps to go, I don't know that those guys ever really got shuffled. That's when those Toyota's got up there and they worked together. And that takes, as we all saw at Talladega when we were doing it, that takes discipline. Yeah, I mean, me personally, if I'm driving a 34-corrador 303,

we just side-draft the D-18, we were passing them on the bottom. I'm going to push, I'm probably going to push jelly. But, yeah, but my point is, if it's the 34 side draft in the 18 and Joey's coming up. It's he going to push a 34. Yeah, I mean, I think he does. If he has a run, if he's going past him, I do.

I mean, you go with whatever cars got the momentum, in my opinion. I think Joey is probably right now, and one of the best, but the most aggressive guy at getting rid of guys. You watched at the beginning of the race, you know, Bowman and Byron were shaky. Joey got rid of him. See, but that's a, but you want. I'm not saying, I'm just saying, like, he's... But you also got to get rid of the guy that's, if you got a chance to shuffle Kyle back or McDowell,

which one do you want to shuffle back? Wow. Exactly. So that's why you don't push him. So, I mean, I understand the forward concept of it, but from being a front row and knowing and seeing what's gone on there, you know. Every manufacturer has pecking orders. Yeah. I mean, you know, your resources lie where you have your best chances to win.

And that's the way it is. Hey, a great run for Michael McDowell. He certainly doesn't have anything to be hanging his head down about. I mean, to come out of there with a top five with, like we just said, a lower tiered team. You know, they're not an A plus team. they're not an A-plus team. So good for those guys. Ross Chastain, Triple Duty, the only guy to run Triple Duty,

finished third in the truck race, top 10 in the Daytona 500. A big weekend for him. I think Ryan Priest, you know, here's a guy that's coming in, first full-time year in Cup, a lot of hype, big, big, modified nation behind him, a lot of big fans up there in the Northeast that are probably putting more eyeballs on Cup than they have maybe since Steve Park ran.

I don't know. I don't know that he's opened his eyes yet from that one accident. I think he just, he shot the guy. He just closed his eyes and stab the throttle. There were a few that he got, I mean, I don't know how he got through those. But it's cool to see guys from different disciplines. We always see the dirt guys. We always see the asphalt late model guys, you know, to see a modified guy come through here again.

Because it's been a while. I mean, I don't know the last big name modified guy, probably Steve Park, right? And then I know when we would go up north and race, the affinity that was there with that fan base and him being a modified driver and being in a cup. And, man, that's cool to see, you know. Yeah, we go to Loudness gets nuts with the Modified guys. guys. But to Benedetto, man, he had a hell of a run. Oh, yeah. They were up front all day. Yeah, led the most laps. Forty-nine laps led. Doug Campbell, a good friend of our spots for him. You know, he did get to lead a lot of easy laps, though, because a lot of us had pitted,

and he was just pulling that train around there single file. But nonetheless, that car was extremely fast all day. And they were flying. Yeah, he was in the top five, I think majority, even when he wasn't leading it, when we were packed up, he was still up there in the first couple rows. Yeah, he's got to be stoked. I mean, I mean, they've got wheels over there who does a phenomenal job calling race and he just puts them in the right position to be you know have the track position to stay up there yeah it's unfortunate i mean he got taken out you know minard was obviously being aggressive and we all were at that point we'd all gotten our last set of tires and our last fuel and um monard just misjudged you know and i thought minard was a possible sleeper to win the daytona 500

obviously in a fast car a very experienced plate spotter with joey mire coming back leaving kesslowski to go do that deal so um i don't know man it uh it uh it played out well though JGR 1, 2, 3. You're not going to like this next one. Boyer's race ends after contact with McDowell. Well, you mean, I love it. Triggers crashed with two to go. That wreck scared the hell out of me.

Man, it obviously spot off. You know, we had a huge run going on out of backstretch. I really feel like yesterday there were a couple times where the lineup wasn't right from the tower. and one of those times they black flagged the first two cars in the top row, which was the 34 and the 17, and they sent them to the back of the field, which allowed the entire top row to gain two spots. Well, I was on the bottom,

and I'm of the belief that those guys were black flagged long before we doubled up, and they should have gone back and really reset that lineup correctly. This is the Daytona 500. There was another restart where we came to the green and check, Chase Elliott was allowed to be three wide on the outside. It was the same restart. That was it. With Noah Gregson was, I don't know if you saw it on Twitter, but the same thing happened

to Noah. I was working. Well, whatever. After. Same thing happened as Noah. So he's three wide on the outside and they just let it go. Like, somebody is in the wrong in that situation because we have to come in two lanes. We have to maintain our lane until start, finish.

That didn't happen. I'm not saying it was Chase Elliott because I don't know what happened. But somebody was in the wrong. And I'm sorry. If you're in the wrong, black flag them. And then the last restart, TJ and I were racing side by side when a big crash happened behind us. We were of the belief that when the yellow came out, we were ahead of Ligano, which would have put us fourth. You would much rather be fourth than fifth.

NASCAR, the official, told the crew chief, my crew chief, that they went back to the previous scoring loop. Well, we're not of the belief that they do that anymore. So there were just some lineup issues that I would say ultimately got us in the position we were in, that we were fifth instead of maybe a different position. So came off to Big Run, we're three wide. Clint thought he cleared him, cleared himself, moved up a lane. He wasn't, you know, obviously clear. And unfortunately, man, when he hit, it scared me.

You know, first thing I did was like, oh, man, I hope he's okay. And then as soon as he answered, I was like, damn it, we just gave up the Daytona 500. That was like truck race for me. Just going down the backstretch, the next thing you know, we're on the inside by self next thing you know we're head on to the outside wall but um you know spot off because of the you know i was it was a good race at that point and um didn't want to see any any wrecks you i don't really like see any wrecks because you don't never know if you're going to make it through them or not um and i thought we were having a pretty good race up front i felt like our chances were stronger

um having somebody like clint in that group because i feel like um i feel like you know us and clint if we could have got together because we didn't have any other teammates up there at the time. I feel like if we could have got with Clint, we could have busted the two guys up front up a little bit and maybe made them earn a little bit more because they kind of, they were very community to each other and it made it hard on everybody else and ultimately got them the 500. But I feel like with Clint up there, we could have, if we could have got linked up, we could

have maybe made it a lot harder on them guys. So. Host wrecked all four cars yesterday. That's expensive. Yeah. Tyler Reddick's tweet in response to Bubble Wallace. An experienced driver and spotter equals tour up 43 car from Bubba. Tyler's response was,

let me go throw a short track break package on my car for you. Anything else you need, Cry Baby? What do you think about that one? I'm 100% spot on because nobody, everybody thought Bubba was talking about me and him and this idiot threw himself under the bus. I mean, nobody knows what he was talking, nobody knows who we were talking about.

I guess maybe he's got a guilty conscience considering. Are you being a cry baby? He never slowed down and drove through the back of us in a crash. So wait a minute. You're saying Reddick never hit the brakes. I mean, it didn't appear so. Because we got, there's dead out. We can go back and look now and see here.

I mean, we could check, but. We can see who the cry baby is. So, like, my car slowed down, and then we got ran over. And then it sped up. And then it sped up a lot. And we were all going to be fine. Like, I think the one was going to have some maybe splitter damage from hook in the apron. But everything else, we were all going to be fine.

And we got plowed into him. And then Jamie Mac came in a couple minutes later and hit us and got some more damage. And then I had a hole the size of this table in my nose for the rest of the day and ran about 80 mile an hour. There's no way you should have been out there. I'm sorry. Oh, that was the other thing. You were eight seconds. Eight seconds off the pace.

So I'm out there and I'm telling, I'm like my crew chief, I said, what is the minimum speed? And he's like, it's 53. First, I asked because we have to clear the crash clock. And I wasn't sure if they could get a fix or not. So I said, you know, we got back out. I said, what's the minimum speed so that I have to, so I know that we clear the clock or not? So, yeah, it's 53-7. I said, all right, we go out there and we are.

awful, like dangerously slow. And I looked at it, we ran a 5210. And I said, wait a minute, this is not right. Like, this can't be right. Seven seconds all. I'm like, so then as the race goes on, it was single file. So we kind of just stayed on the bottom and let the single file lanes go around. Well, then they get packed up.

And I'm like, Bub, I said, just get off the, like lift, get off the race track. Let them go by. We'll get back up and go. So we did that a couple times. NASCAR comes over and tells us, hey, you got to speed up around the league. and we're going to black flag you. I said, so now you want me to stay out there

and crash the leader. I said, Bubba's like, please black flag me. I am begging you to black flag me. I told, I was standing next to Brett, and I said, I said,

we have seriously got to figure out at a different minimum speed because there's no way this is safe, me being out here. Now, a couple times, in a three, one time, I don't know when he was pulling up and they were,

oh, that was that. I didn't know what, we've been on the bottom the whole time. I don't know what it was happening. And then I honestly wasn't even using my binoculars because it was just, all right,

stay on the bottom, here comes another line. So I'm like, and I look and I go, what, he, is he on the top? And I'm like, oh, God, stay up. Like, now. He swerved up, like, right in front of them guys. And I was like, holy cow. I wish he'd erect them. But, yeah, so anyway.

Yeah, I don't, I don't get the tweet. I think the tweet probably should have just been, hey, man, sorry, I knocked you out of Daytona 500 instead of calling us cry, baby. What if he was on the brakes hard, though? He wasn't. What if he was? Who you got? Who you got?

What time of the day? Uh, lunchtime. What kind of, are we fighting? Yeah, we're fighting. Like fist fighting or wrestling, grappling or? Anything that goes. You just can't use a beer bottle. I mean, I mean, it's pretty even.

I'm not to throw it, go, Bubba. I mean, you can't not think, Bubba. He might disown you. Yeah, yeah. I got called him a cry, baby. Okay, yeah. I mean, Bubba definitely had the speed aspect on him. He'd hit him, you know, like, uh.

Like when you resort to name calling, you want to fight. Yeah. I mean, have you seen Bubba fight before? Uh, yeah. Yep, he punched a couple people in the face on the racetrack. You can't say that. Well, no, he was on a race show. It was on TV.

Everybody else saw it too. Somebody wrecked us in practice and he ran over and punched him in the face a couple times. There was a top secret fight last year that we can't talk about. Yeah. I'm not telling you which drivers it was. You can't just say we can't talk about it. It's almost whatever I want. It's almost the one year anniversary.

Yes. It is. This weekend is the one year anniversary. You have to share it. Two guys, one motor home on a couch, and they weren't. cuddling. They were cuddling, I think. Kind of.

Kind of cuddling. Snuggle. Yeah, rough cuddling. What was it? Oh, the dance. So this is great. Dillner probably seen this. One of the modified guys at Cimerna, like, ran through this list of, is like,

so, you know, he won the Modified Championship over there, Chuck Hossfeld. And they said, Chuck, how's your week been over here in Cimern? He says, man, I love it. He says, we come over here, we race, we go home and we drink. Then we'd give out adult hugs, and we come back and do it again tomorrow. I said adult hugs. What are those? I got to get on that plan.

That's something we got to look into. I got to call Chuck. So like an urban dictionary term for that? Adult hugs. That might have been what they were doing in the motorhome last year. All right. Well. Well, TJ and Brett finish 1-2 in Thursday's dual race.

Spot on, spot off, TJ. This is probably not the order Brett wanted it to be. Yeah. Or I don't think it probably should. should have been, but I'm not complaining. Spot on. I'm one. He's two, so I'm spot on. It was a good race. You know, honestly, coming out of that race, I was concerned for the Daytona 500.

The cars did the exact opposite of what some of us thought they were going to do. When it got hot and slick, they actually could run side by side. As the track started cooling off last night late, you know, we started seeing that single file thing for them again. So it was obviously a good race. I thought going into the Daytona 500, you wouldn't want to be the leader based on the move that I saw Joey pull off. He passed three cars in less than a quarter of a mile and cleared them.

And Clint had no idea that he would be able to get that big of a run either. You know, it's kind of weird. And the way Joey did it was amazing. The way Blaney got to him and pushed him didn't look like it would launch him out as quickly as it did. But anyway, man, I mean, you know, Ford's won two-year. If it dates on a 500, that's a lot different scenario. You know, that was a qualifying race. We don't need to be tearing cars up.

Yeah, you're – The winning that race is fun, but really just surviving that race is the, you know, the main thing. Because if you don't survive that race, you've got a lot of work to do. A lot of work to do. So, and by the end of lap 2, by the end of lap 1 and the 500, you're in a totally different position where probably where you started anyway. So. Yeah. Clint made a comment on TV that he and I have to communicate better.

So I actually went back and pulled my audio from the race. We can do that if we need to. and everything that I said is everything that I would say again. So there wasn't anything there that I felt like I was going to be able to tell him. Once you tell him they're too wide behind the 11, he's only got to look one direction, and that's to the left because he's running up against the fence. So you've got to anticipate that run. But again, if it's the Daytona 500, it's managed a lot differently than a qualifying race.

No reason in us flying down there and, you know, side drafted and beat him all over him and everybody behind us catching us and maybe wrecking us. Like, it could have ended bad. I would have blocked you. That would have blocked you hard. I ain't driving. Jamie McMurray finishes P-22 in his final career race. Spot on, spot-off, Freddie.

Spot off for finishing 22nd, obviously. You know, you'd like to see Jamie do a little bit better. You know, I've seen him running up front a little bit. He just, I've seen one time he had some damage from our wreck and we got turned around in front of him. He kind of come in there nowhere to go and clipped us with the right front. So he had to fight that for the rest of the day. I've seen one time he was up front and they kind of bailed on him.

He got hung in the middle a little bit. But, you know, Jamie's great dude. You know, man, ran a marathon the week before. So, I mean, finished like third and fourth place in that. So that's probably more. He's probably more excited about that than the racing. But yeah, he did a good job yesterday. Jamie's a good friend of mine.

Fortunately, going to stick around the sport. He's going to do some work with Fox. I hate to see his career. Come to an end with a 22nd place finish. But this guy's a Daytona 500 champion. He's won the brick yard. He's got a lot of things. he can hang his hat on, man.

Always one of the better plate racers. Certainly change lanes a little more than some of us. We want him to at times. But a guy that won a lot of trophies in plate racing. So proud to be friends with it, man. Just as another one of those guys that I've kind of came in with and been friends with, and it's tough to see all these guys going. Yeah, I mean, obviously spot off for the 22nd,

but I think he probably had a fun weekend. Minus, was that the toilet? What? I hear that noise. I heard something. Oh, anyway, but yeah, Jamie's a good dude. I'm glad he's going to be doing some commentating and stuff like that, and looking forward to having him around still.

First time winners in Exfinity and truck races, Michael Annette on Saturday and Austin Hill on Friday. Spot on, spot off, Brett. Spot on. Yeah, spot on as well. Nothing else to say? You'll sit, hurry up. I'm hurry up.

Yeah, spot on. Good for Michael. Good for all Austin. Hill through unreal good block at the end of that race. Those last two laps were amazing. Yeah, he did good. I mean, he was competitive all night. Did good.

Michael Annette, man, what a strong car to them guys. I mean, strong car got up there and they couldn't do anything with him. Probably the biggest sponsor in the Xfinity series from a pure money standpoint. You obviously want to see those guys get enough return out of their investment to stick around. So big, big business win, I think, for the sport there. Good for Michael, too, though, man. Finally gets that, I mean, I think his last win was, what, maybe an Archer race at Talladega? Yeah, probably.

So, you know, a big shot in the arm for him now. So maybe that'll boost his confidence some and carry. But, you know, good for both them, guys, them teams, the teams especially. Spot on. I spot it for both of these guys, Annette. You were holding them back. Yeah, finally got him. Finally got out there out from under the wing.

But, no, Michael, great job, obviously. you know, definitely paid his dues. Got to win. And Austin, Austin caught a lot of flack all year long, or off season long, I should say, about, you know, oh, he just bought this ride out

from Brett Moffitt and this, that and the other thing. And I think he showed Friday night that, you know, he ran up front all race through them big blocks at the end of year and that win. So awesome for them guys. It's cool to see him win again. Yeah. Austin's also,

he's worked on a lot of cars and stuff too. So people don't... He spots when we... Yeah, so he's a race. sir. I just heard a bottle pop open. Yeah. No. We're not going to do a big one.

That's enough for me. I have to work. Casey, stop whining. Cry, baby. Casey, this isn't going to come out after you're done working. Jason, after this break, we're taking this shot. You better get your body right.

Oh, God. Doesn't he have to do 21 of these? Yeah. Declined. You're not declining it. If TJ's doing it, now look at this guy. That guy give Jason a shot.

No. Whoa, no. decline. You can't decline. Yeah, these are undecliving. Your birthday. You're 21. You're lucky willing to let you do one.

Yeah. He's only doing one? We're letting you off easy. We're sending a bottle home with him. Hey, Jason, don't ride with this in your front seat because if you get pulled over, you'll get a ticket. Yeah, that's true. Speaking from experience, they consider that open container. Even though you're not drinking and you're sober, if there's open alcohol in the passenger area,

they tend to not like to see that deal yeah okay so put it in the trunk okay but make sure that cork doesn't come off where your trunk will smell like you've been drinking he's doing what yes he is dealing there don't let him say no it's over here we got it right here can somebody take this to he needs to put a little bit more here he needs to come out no no no no no he needs to come who has never done a shot he got off drinking he don't make it absolutely where he's going to vomit he needs to come out here with us so we can cheer him yeah you got to get out here I've got my own camera over here. That's not the same.

But whatever, Jason. Whatever, Jason. Hey, make sure he drinks that. Patriots fan. Dillner, don't let him out. Come on. Oh, God. Make sure he drinks that.

He's going to throw up. Please don't throw up on the board back there. I hate tequila, too. I hate it. So you don't have enough in it. That looks like backwash. The only thing worse than tequila is hot tequila. Good job, Brett.

Hey, happy 21st birthday. All right, happy birthday, Jason. We'll take you the scores next time. Yeah. Hey, before you drink it, you got to hit it on a table. You got to tap the table. I don't know. lot, do it.

Oh, no. Here, you guys have fun. What? Hold on when the break just got longer. Look at his face. The bad part is me and Freddie don't even flinch. He's chasing it. Get it.

You're supposed to chase it with a beer. I should have brought a six-pack of beer. I should have brought ice. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but. Oh, he says wasn't as bad. Get him another one. That's right. Don't forget your bottle on the way out.

So is this your first drink? No, I had six Saturday. That was his first shoddies. Six beers. Six beers. Or wasted. Three beers, two rum and cokes and champagne. Oh.

Champagne. Dude, you can be careful mixing all that. This was throughout the day. Those doesn't go together very well. What'll make you sick drinking is sugar. Stay away from sugar drinks. Yes. They're the best, though.

No. Is this going to be coming video probably this week? I would say so. viral. Before we head into Fast Lean, we want to recognize three members of the NASCAR community who passed away this off season. Let's take a moment of silence for J.D. Gibbs, Glenn Wood, and Sandbass. And we are back. We'll head in the fast lane. I'll give these guys three topics pertaining to racing and one that is off the wall. They'll have 30 seconds to respond to each. Casey, you sound amazing. I know. I sound like I'm 12 in these clips. You sound really good in there. Do I really talk like that? You sound bad right now compared to that.

I think we need to start one of those 1-900 numbers. Yeah. Do they still do that? I don't know. Bring it back. With that voice? You hear that? Hey.

Lucky chat. Can you talk like that again? Do it. Hey. No. I don't know. What did I sound like? How do I not sound like that?

All right, let's go. Okay. First question. Many of the major crashes of Speed Weeks took place during turn three. Is turn three a difficult angle for spotters or is there another reason so many accidents took place there? T.J. Turn three, that's where a lot of runs form and that is it can characterically be whatever I just said. Okay, 30 seconds.

It can be a trouble spot. That's where guys get runs and make moves and you can't tell they're going to pass each other until the bumpers cross. And sometimes that's just a split second too late. So a lot of times, drivers are on their own when they defend off runs into three. But that's just part of that racetrack and how that package is. I'm going until he keep pushing the horn. It's probably over a half mile from where we stand, but our vantage point is pretty good. Where we struggle with is that it's flat.

So as these guys get runs and they start making moves, it's difficult for us to kind of tell sometimes exactly where they're at. But I would say it's, you know, coming off a two and into three are probably our best vantage points of anywhere at the track. it's definitely not because of where the spotters are and what our perspective is on that corner yeah i think like you said it's it's difficult to tell especially there's two or three wide back there like you lose if you can see the guy in the inside fine but you lose your guy kind of you're watching kind of rooftop going through the cars and especially if you're on the very out of the top you know so you know that's that just plays a part into it it's just a depth perception thing back there that's horrible yeah that sounds like dillner has gas we got to get something that is way

too slow of a horn. It needs to be like loud and quick. Better air horn. Yeah. Like a basketball buzzer and a half a time or something. Yeah. The anticipated upcoming schedule changes include rumors that the Daytona 500 may not be the season opening race. Does it need to be the first race of the season? And if not, where should it fall on the schedule? Freddie? Oh, I mean, I kind of like the idea going to Daytona first, kicking our season off with our big race. I'm kind of a tradition guy. I like to keep things the same as much as we've been changing stuff lately.

I'd hate to see this go by the wayside. But, yeah, I don't know. I mean, if you're not going to start the year there, you've got to end the year there, I would think. It's got to be one or the other. And I don't want to end the year at Daytona. So I think just I'm good with leaving it where it's at. Yeah, I don't. I think it's great.

There's a buildup to it. There's the build up the whole offseason. Everything kind of builds up to Daytona. Not to mention, there's a lot of other stuff that feeds around that area. There's a mixture of dirt fans going to short tracks there. NASCAR fans checking out dirt races. Dirt racers checking out NASCAR race, you know. So there's a lot of, there's a lot going on.

It's great for the area. And honestly, I mean, I wouldn't change it a bit. That's sound. I haven't heard this rumor. And the reason I haven't heard is because it's dumb. Why would we not start the year with the Daytona 500, the number one most marketed, most viewed race of the year? I have heard that we could end our regular season in Daytona,

which kind of creates a pretty cool story for whoever wins that race. It's definitely locked into the playoff. Obviously, it could be a new winner. But now, I'm not real sure where this game from, but I hope it goes away. We've got to get a new noise. Agreed. I like it. That's why we got to change.

Okay. A new Arrow package will debut this in Sunday's Cup race at Atlanta. What do you expect to be most noticed? different with how this package races. Right. We don't know what we don't know. You know, Atlanta is a very slick racetrack that eats tires. So I think we're going to see what's that noise?

What is going on? Someone is. How is the pinball machine? Dillner's in the corner right now. Oh, it is. So this new studio has all these tricks things in here and there's a pinball machine. And everybody who has ADD is just looking around. started making noise.

Which is everyone. I thought it was aliens or something. But back to Atlanta, I think restarts are going to be crazy. And I think after that, your car is going to have to handle. We're going to see a completely different race at these other mile and a half. Atlanta is its own unique animal. Yeah. I was going to say, I forgot that stupid noise.

I agree. Like, Atlanta is going to be different than the rest of the mile and a half just for the fact that tire wear. We have no idea what's going to happen. and it'll be really interesting with the forecast if we have to go out there and race without any practice, which I would love it. But like, you know, we've seen some stuff at Vegas that, you know, the racing was a little bit compromised,

but I think it should be a pretty good race this weekend. I'm looking forward to it. I feel like this package fits into my, me and my drivers. That's our area more. so I feel like Joey is pretty aggressive, which I think you're going to have to be on restarts and stuff, to get spots. And it's going to be like a mini plate race for a little while in a sense. So you're going to have to see runs coming where you need to be, things like that.

So I'm looking forward to it. So hopefully it's hopefully you can put on a good show and get rid of that. Noted. Off the Wall topic. Off the Wall question. A Texas Zoo allowed people to name cockroaches after ex-spouses, form. or friends or anyone they dislike and then feed them to zoo animals on Valentine's Day. What are some first names of people you would have Cockroach is named after? DJ.

Oh my gosh. This is Larry Edwards. I'll go first. Yeah, go ahead, Brett. Larry Edwards. Yeah. I thought it was first name. I mean, is that?

I want to say the whole guy's full name. You can feel free to say their full name. Please explain. Yeah. Yeah, we got another story. behind Larry Edwards he's just a tool what do you do he fired me oh where do he work edwards and associates Larry Edwards okay all right I think I ended up all right I think my work ethic got me to big around better places but I hope this fat ass gets fed to one animal

one day that would be amazing they go ahead Freddie I'm gonna stick with the first name because I've got one first name that has multibly pissed me off this week is Tyler I had an issue I had an issue with Tyler Reddick in the damn race yesterday. Tyler Green left me at the damn race track on Friday night, went home without me. I had to walk back to the hotel. I mean, just left me. So I'm going with Tyler and then Brett also,

because I can't stand him after this week in Daytona with him. I don't know. I don't really have too many that I would like to feed to people. Oh, God, just say Kyle fine, geez. Kyle. Tom Brady. Yeah, Tom. Tom.

Can it be hold names? Everyone on the New England Patriots. Hey. Quiet, Jason. You're drunk. Yeah. To the liquor speaking, Jason? I'm hot.

I will tell you. They got a lot hotter in here. That's because you gave us hot tequila. Is this supposed to be cold? Yes. It's way better cold. I'll make it cold. I'll put in my fridge.

Freezer. It won't freeze. My freezer is like this big. That's all right. This bottle's tiny. Pull out your chicken tenders. Whatever you got in there. Chicken nuggets in there.

What's in your freezer? Yeah, what is in your freezer? Well, my freezer, I bought a new fridge, mini-friges semester. There's nothing in there because the freezer is so small. So your freezer is a mini-fridge freezer. Yeah, I just have water and drinks in there. I don't have any food in there.

Okay. Water and drinks. A whole refrigerator in your place? Do you live with somebody? You live on the edge guy. It's like each have our own little dorm room and four people's rooms per sweet. Ooh. Okay.

Now there will be some more alcohol in there. Yeah, and it'll probably never get drank either. Until he brings it back next week and Brett Teets and drinks it. I'm not scared. Yes. I'm down. Hey, I'm not scared. And you included.

Ask DBC. All right. First asked DVC question. Wendy A. Quinn asks, how many spotters got a start in the modified divisions of racing? It seems like a majority have roots there. I guess,

I don't know that it's a majority. It's me, Eddie to Hunt, Tony Hirschman. Herm? Herm? He was kind of a late model guy. He wouldn't call him starting modifies.

He raced a modified at Bowman Gray for a while, but he was a late model guy at Concord before that. I think when you say true modified guy, you mean a guy that comes from the northeast area that, you know what I mean? I think there's maybe three or four. There's three or four of us that I would consider modified guys. Yank, yeah. There's probably, there's a lot of short track guys. There's a lot of, I mean, we all, I mean, I would imagine almost all of us. Well, Brett didn't.

Brett didn't. He just snaked his way on the roof. Hey, PR guy, go to the roof. Done. Never came back down. First race I ever spotted was a cup race. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

Get some. First race I ever spotted was a late model race for maybe Timothy Peters. So that was a... What track was that? That one he used to run it all the time in Virginia. Him and Phil Warren race, door to door, for like 75. laps so Southampton Southampton yeah it was Southampton

exactly what it was cool racetrack yeah shut it down do you know that I didn't know that I think so hmm yeah it was it was fun yeah but modified's rule Casey it's your show I was just letting them finish come on Casey you guys are the worst 34 Jeff Cuncle wants to know

will Matt de Benedetto wheel the 95 to a win this year or was his strong showing up until his wreck, just a product of JGR horsepower at a plate track. T.J. I don't feel like, I don't, I think he's going to run better than what he has been in the past, but I don't, it's hard for me to say that car is going to just mysteriously go to the front now. You know, it takes time to develop this stuff, and I'm not so sure they're going to get enough help to be winning cars, if you know what I mean.

Last time that happened, they shut them down. So, I mean, I don't know. they'll get that much help. I think that Matt has to learn how to race up front, and I think that'll take a little bit of time. I think that the JGR Alliance is going to give him a lot more speed and a lot more opportunity to win. But man, let's face it, some of these wins are going to be situational

based on track position, based on restarts. And I don't see this guy as being Eric Emeroli yet because he hasn't won races another series before he's gotten to Cup and gotten himself in a really, really good situation. But I do see this as a good situation. And given the right place, right time, I could see him winning a race. If I had to bet will he win a race this year, I would bet no. Yeah, I agree.

I think a lot of people try to relate this to the 78 deal, and it's not the same. You know, this is not the same level of help. Like TJ said, they don't want to send cars over to get beat again. But, you know, it's not the same exact setup as that. I mean, could he win a race? Yes. I mean, he could have won yesterday. Could have very easily.

So, you know, we go back to Talladega, Daytona. I mean, it's going to be, you know, a different package. He could easily be up front again. He was committed to that. He was committed to the JGR cars. Yeah, I mean, he should have been. And he should have been. And they did a good job.

And when they left, when he got the lead, it was all the JGR cars pushing them. They didn't hang him either. I mean, they stayed with him. I thought they were going to. And they stayed with them. So, I mean, like Brett said, it could happen, but I would venture to say probably not.

Our final question is from the Camry Kid. I think Freddie's liver is safe. You're wrong. Yeah, disagree. Wrong there. But Brett's might not be after Tito makes his rounds. What is your best hangover cure? Drink more.

Drink again. Correct. You can't be drunk and hung over at the same time. That's a true story. Motive pure is what I drink when I drink too much, though. It's a good little rehydration tool. What is that? Like a... It's like potassium and electrolytes.

It's... What's the word I'm looking for? It's condensed... Milk? Milk? It's because I condensed electrolysis you pour into a bottle of all. Do they want to sponsor the show? We don't have a sponsor, so maybe they do.

I know. So Tidos. Titos. I started a new marketing company over the winter called B-First. Maybe I'll go out and find us a sponsor. Go for it. Why don't you just sponsors us? Maybe I'll get Nutrient Act Solutions to sponsor us because they sponsored. You're already branding.

There is a lot of opportunity between. Hey, we brought a new sponsor into the sport. It's a big deal. It's hard to do. Dunkin' Donuts. Not to mention Chick-fil-A would be great. Are you hinting at me?

Because I bring food. You guys don't. I'm hinting at whatever one of you took my gift card. I think T-Dos are Smithworks would be the best two options. I'm never drinking Smithworks again. I took Freddy to a Blake Shelton concert and there was free Smithworks. I was there. He over-indulged.

He was there, but he didn't drink anything. No. Freddie don't remember being there. I'm sure it was a hell of a time. Jason, prepare to forget events too. That's kind of how this happens as well when you get to have a two more. much fun, you have too much fun and you don't remember the next night? I feel like I'll just record everything on my phone and then I'll remember.

I don't know if that's a good idea. I did send some messages Saturday night that I do not remember sending. Leave your phone in home. Oh, I'm proud of you. I was kind of surprised to see that. So are you going to share the? What did you say? No, it wasn't anything bad.

It was just something weird. What did it say? Just in my NASCAR friends group chat, they said something weird. Oh, I want to be in that. Can you add me? Yeah, it's a bunch of teenagers. That's awesome. Are they on your podcast that you do?

Yeah, Andrew Kirlin's one of the guys. The TJ told me about. Yeah, you guys should listen. Redhead racing radio. Redhead racing radio. Are you on there, Brett? He's sponsor-playing himself right now. You hear this?

I told you he's drunk. He's going out on the list. He was trained well. All right. No, I want to hear. I just basically, they sent something about the race on Sunday, and I just replied NASCAR just randomly, which doesn't really make much sense.

It's just weird. Earnhardt. First thing you thought of after taking shots. Wait, wait, people need to start submitting questions, more questions, and fan call. Is that back? Yeah, so we're going to bring the fan call back this year. So if you want your Ask DBC question to begin the show and you can talk to us on the show, include hashtag, call me when you tweet your questions to hashtag Asked B.C. And I'll pick one fan each week and we'll give them call.

We need some fun questions. That's what last year kind of died out because we didn't have enough good questions. So send us some fun topics and we'll try to get to. on the show. It doesn't have to be racing either. It could be life advice. You know, we have none of that. Life advice. If you have life advice questions, direct them to Casey or T.J. Jason. Don't ask me and Brett, nothing about that.

Well, you might be helpful on what not to do. Yes, that is true. Do as I say, not as I do. It would be a good motto for us. There's a lot of good that can come from this. Agreed. All right. What are we in the rants about? It's early in the year. We're all still happy. Yeah, it's a little early.

What are we going to expect in Atlanta? A race? A race? Rain, a race? Some driver's not happy. Some driver's happy. I think you're still going to see the fast cars go fast at the end of the day, especially there. I think next week is the real test of this package.

It's going to look more like it looked at Charlotte when they unveiled it. I think we may have broke the news that this package was even coming into existence. And here we are six months later. This is our package. So I think you're going to see, like he says, the fast cars, you're going to get a glimpse of what it's going to be like at mile and a half. So you're going to see who's going to, I don't even know. I don't know who's going to roll off there and have the true speed with this package to start with by themselves. Like when you go out there and run by yourself, you were at the Vegas test.

So, you know, if cars ran by themselves, you know, who had true speed to start with. That's what we're going to see in the beginning. I'm curious to see, you know, when you look at Daytona, Talladega, go, we don't practice a lot because we don't want to wreck our car and we really get in a situation where once we've tested these things out, we can't, quote, find any more speed. Be curious to see if we unload at some of these places and our travels are all there and the speed is there. Handling is good.

And I don't mean early on because we're all still going to be trying things. But the second half of the year, I'm curious to see how much we actually need to practice. I think going to start the year, I think you're going to see two guys kind of excel at this package, one being Kyle Busch, the other being Brad Keselowski, because what we saw at the Vegas test was very similar to a truck race. And nobody's run or won more truck races than Kyle, and Brad has a lot of experience there too. And they just were able to kind of do things that a lot of guys weren't able to do in them packs

where it was very tough to pass, and they were able to make passes happen. So I think just early, I think guys are going to catch on, obviously. These guys are super talented. It helps the late model driver in general, because this is a lower horsepower package. When you look at higher horsepower vehicles, look at Jimmy Johnson when he got out of the Xfinity series, he went to the Cup series.

The higher horsepower package, he dominated. When you look at guys like Tony Stewart, Casey Kane, you know, even Jimmy again, you know, when their career kind of started dipping is when NASCAR started pulling back horsepower. It's all about momentum now. It's not about driving it in deep, getting on the brake, getting the car turned,

getting back on the gas wide open as quick as you can. It's about momentum. And the best guys at that last year, year were late model racers. Kevin Harvick, Martin Truex, Kyle Busch. And I think you're going to see that the truck tendencies come to the Cup series. And like Freddie just said, Kyle Busch has been the best truck series driver to ever live. So we'll see. Rand, I want to say this. ESPN appeared to basically shut down their coverage of a lot of motorsports based on some layoffs I saw. So I want to give a shout out to Marty Smith, Ryan McGee, two friends of mine, 20 plus years in the

business still pushing NASCAR out via their ESPN channels. So it's very important for us to stay plugged in to the media. You know, we have a lot of dot-coms that are covering the sport now and love all that to death, but we still need a lot of mainstream play. And those guys are going to be a big deal. They're now our mouthpieces for ESPN. I saw Greg McElroy send out the former Alabama quarterback who's on TV, and I think everything he says about football is half crazy.

But obviously, you know, a starter at Alabama. I think he won a national championship. Everybody there pretty much gets one at some point. But he was kind of taking some shots at our sport yesterday, and I saw Ryan McGee dive in on him. So big, big fans of those two guys. Yeah. We bring Jayski back?

Yeah. No kidding. Well, that's what I'm saying, man. They let Ricky Craven go. They shut Jaysky down. No, I mean, like, just let the original Jaysky guy come back and do it. Yeah. Maybe the best news I got all winter, though, for us is Bob Pockris can now come on our show.

I'm a huge fan of how hard he works. and his work ethic, but he couldn't come on because the ESPN wouldn't let him. And now with Fox and Bob listens every week, I think. So we've got to figure out a good time, a good race to bring him on. You know what I'm saying? Like a Martinsville or Bristol or somewhere where stuff's going to happen and we can really get him in here and get his perspective. You think Bob likes picklebacks?

Yeah. Yeah. He told us about picklebacks and hickies one time in Dover. Yeah. Love the guy. I'll tell you what, though. And staying on topic of those reporter guys, there was one guy. I complained about doing a lot of racing this weekend.

I'm telling you, Matt Weaver was at every, I mean, he was at Samerna every night. He covered the big track, obviously. That guy, he was at every short track race that I went to, Chili Bowl. I mean, that guy is pumping out some content. It's awesome. And if you need somebody to, like, get any kind of racing information from, he's another one to go check out. He's opinionated, too, man. Yeah, he's not afraid to say what he feels.

I will say that Matt knows a ton about the super late models, anything modified, stuff like that coming up. you know Bob Bob is above and beyond one of the best cup reporters there are he knows the role is better than almost probably he probably knows the role's best better than anybody in the garage he knows more breaking news too he just doesn't touch it because it has to be official for him to touch it yeah he knows what's up bob's a very knowledgeable guy all right dbc picks so our guy cornwick backed out of doing the graphics this year so my friend garret bysham's going to help us out with the graphics what happened to corn wit he just kind of said, I'm not going to do it anymore.

So we quit. Got my friend to do it. Dang, we were going to send him some Tito's. Drivers are on the back page. What's your friend's name? Garrett by Sean. Garrett by Sean. He likes the bill, so T.J.

Okay, good choice. And then also, I feel like we can give some fantasy advice out this year, so a couple guys to keep an eye on in the fantasy for those that play. So picks and fantasy picks. So how are we picking who goes first? Let's just say you go first. Well, Brett's the champion, so I feel like he. You should go first.

I'll take Harvick. What a tool. The old sailor, you. She's still in the house? She's still in the house. Okay, keep it classy guys. I almost numbed choked you right then. You don't even realize.

You know, oh, man, it's tough to beat that then. My, the meatloaf. We want it now. That's who I would have picked, because that place is pretty much named after Harvick, so it's pretty much Harvick mode of Speedway. Four years, and he still came to pick. Harbock Motor Speedway

Why wouldn't you pick him? You should have won last year. You'd have a first pick. Well, whatever. Huh. Yeah, keep going. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. TJ, seriously, just make a peep.

I'll take a... I'm going to lose anyway. I'm going to take Eric Amarola. No. All right. So fancy guys, give us one guy for sure. What I mean, really? All right.

And then give us one guy who's a surprise. that you would consider for Atlanta because he might have a good run. Jimmy Johnson. I don't think that's a sign. Way out on a limb there. He said go out on a limb. Man, let's,

Kyle Larson's going to be fast. You know, this place is going to be slick, despite this rules package where we're going to run around there, you know, with a lot more throttle than what we normally would. Brad will be good. Yeah, Brad's going to be good.

I think Eric Jones will be. Eric Jones may be, yeah. I don't know. I'm waiting for a surprise if you guys find a lot. I know. I was thinking more long the lines like Chris Busher. I think when they got this new package, or Michael McDowell, who did really well.

Yeah, whatever. We're not picking him. Sent to pride. That's the thing about this package. Who? They want, look, I mean, it's really hard, and I don't mean this in a negative way, because I'm a huge Bubba while I'm a supporter.

But it's really hard for Bubba to go to the track every week and know that he has a chance to win. When he goes to the plate tracks, he knows that he does. When he goes to the short tracks, he knows that he does. He went to these intermediate tracks last year with a team that's not dumping $20, 30 million into his car. He's not going to be able to go out and win the race. I'm really sorry.

That's just the way it is. But this package may give him an opportunity to do that. So we all saw Ricky Stenhouse Jr. this weekend. I think he was in three or four wrecks yesterday, maybe one of which was his fault, maybe two of which was his fault. But nonetheless, a guy like that is going to put on a lot better show with his package, not necessarily at Atlanta. but he's going to go into these races with this whole new mindset of everybody's got 550 horsepower everybody's got similar air it needs everybody's on the ground i think i can win so um guys like that are going to put on a show i wouldn't be afraid to pick pre see there is a sleeper that's the thing man like modified guys um traditionally would come into our sport and dry overdrive our cars because their modified cars have a ton of horsepower a big old wide tire a ton of grip they're in the throttle a lot And they would come here and I would watch the Hossfelds and all them guys, when they do the ding-dong show with Rosh, like you'd watch those guys get in those things, and overdrive the corner really bad. Now they're not going to be able to do that.

They're going to be able to run wide open. So a guy like Priest is probably getting here at the best time. If he's going to be with JTG, yet again another team that's not as funded as well as TJ's is, not as funded as mine is.