Door Bumper Clear - 125 - The Spotter Game Is Changing

Episode Date: February 26, 2019

How a new aero package is changing the game of spotting. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, what's up, DBC fans? If you haven't heard about Anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let us explain. Well, first of all, Freddie, the best part is it's free. There's nothing better than using a free awesome service. To make the process simple and easy, there's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Anchor helps people find your show by distributing the podcast for you so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and many more platforms. Also, you can make money from your podcast with no.

minimum listenership. I like money. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. We love using Anchor. It's a great platform that lets us hear from the fans and reaction theater with Anchors leave a message feature. So when you create your account with Anchor, you can also utilize their feature

and make your own podcast. TJ will be your first guest. So download the free Anchor app or go to anchor.fm. to get started. That's an C-H-O-R.fm. to get started. Get ready.

Be ready. Be ready. Do what you got here. New leader. White flag. Recognize. Hello. Clear.

Bring home. Three light. Coming to the line. Door, bumper, clear. Woo! Whoa, yeah. Hey, I'm T.J. Majors. Give me what you got here.

Why'd you look at me? Why don't you look at Casey? Because she didn't say it. Brett Griffin, I only spotted a. Cup car this weekend. It was actually really nice. Clint Boyer was my guy. We finished fifth. Casey, what did you do all weekend? I was in Atlanta for you. You actually ruined the whole marketing campaign for Atlanta last week on this podcast by saying it's going to rain all weekend. Okay. Well, if you look at the forecast and it says it's going to rain, obviously I'm going to say

T.J, did we get the Xfinity race in on time? Yeah. Do we get the truck race in on time? I mean, it was in. We had a little delay. Did we get the cup race in on time? We did. Wow. Okay. It rained the entire time during that extent of the year. You're one of those people that they see like 25% chance of rain in the forecast. It's like pack your rain boots, your whole gear and all that, aren't you?

Yes, I wore my rain boots and three jackets. Oh, wow. Did you walk in any rain? Yes, I did. Now I'm not talking mist. I'm talking rain. Yes, actually. Really?

Yes. I'm sorry about that. You should just stay inside for 10 more minutes. I would quit. Why do you guys hate me? We love you. You just said last Monday on the show, do not go to Atlanta. It's going to rain.

I did not say don't go to Atlanta. I wanted you to go. I had to be there. Is it going to snow in Vegas? Probably. Oh, that'd be great. It already did. You didn't see the pictures of it?

Yes, I saw the pictures of it. But you asked if it's going to snow. Why would that be great? We're going to the race. I know. Why do you want snow there? I like snow more than I like rain. Go to the mountains.

I will. I love some. snow. I do. Thank you. I mean, I grew up. I'd wear my ski outfit if it was going to snow. You might not be saying this if you grew up in an area where, you know, where you had to shovel your driveway multiple times a week, would you? I agree with that. Well, that's why you never see a U-Haul going north. North. All you Yankees come down here because y'all get sick of the snow. And you pay liberal taxes up there. And once you retire, you can't afford to live there because the cost of living is through the roof. But I feel like I earn, I can still say that because I lived in

Chicago for a year and I moved there from Florida in December. So I know what that's like. How was it? You still don't. Did you live downtown? I don't. Yes, I did. Okay. So you still don't know what it's like. Well, I live like just outside of downtown. To be stuck in your own driveway. To be stuck in your own driveway to be stuck in your own driveway that are higher than you. Yes, I had to wait for a bus. Yes, I had to wait for a car. I'm a school bus. Like a, like a driveway and a school bus. You waited in that line? Or are you talking about a bus stop? I waited on Lake Michigan for my bus. Yeah. You see, close to the lake doesn't get as much snow, though. It's inward a little bit. But it's windy. Oh, the windy city, yes. Wow. So.

Exactly. It's also dangerous. It is. But I don't live there anymore because I have some horror stories. There's some fun parts in Chicago, though. Downtown, maybe pier. I love Chicago. You just got to stay away from the whole White Sox area. I mean, Chicago, was one of my favorite cities. I got buddies that drive into the city one way, going to work in the morning, and then drive back. The other way. A completely different way to avoid those areas. It's crazy, though.

Like, you hear those stories, and you think, how does that happen in America? And it happens. It's true. It's crazy. What you think about a new package, TJ? I don't think that's a good test of it yet. Atlanta's too much of an old worn-out track. No matter what package you have there, if you got a lift, it's going to be, if you got a lift like you do at Atlanta as much,

you're going to have you're not going to Vegas is going to be completely different we're going to have tons of grip moving all over we're going to be able to get closer together Atlanta is just a handling track man and it showed it always is always has been until they repave it it's probably going to be this way so what did you think about Atlanta with this package

though compared to Atlanta with the higher horsepower less drag less or less downforce package Like, did you think it was a better race, same race, worst race? I saw the same type of racing that I felt like was when you have higher speeds. You still got guys having to lift. You have guys fighting loose. You have guys fighting tight. We're going slower.

But I don't think, I don't know, I mean, I liked the old package, just carrying all that speed. I liked the horsepower stuff. But this was a lot of the same stuff. I mean, you had to still get to have discipline for yourself. You had to have handling. I didn't mind it. I really feel like the biggest thing I saw with this package at Atlanta was how hard it was for those guys to wreck.

We saw a lot of cars make a lot of contact. We saw them three wide. We saw them four wide. We saw them chopping each other. We saw them bumped out drafting each other extremely hard. And yet they didn't wreck. And I think that's because the downforce numbers are so high. and they're going slower to TJ's points.

So I'm curious to see when we get to Vegas if these same guys race as aggressive as they did and these same guys cut them brakes because they look like to me to wreck someone, you had to blatantly wreck them. I saw guys hit each other at speed, at full speed in three and four and knock them up the racetrack.

Like in the old package, that would erect them. And I saw them on these restarts nailing each other. With the old package, they would erect. So I'm curious to see if there's going to be a point where we do start wrecking and we will, trust me, but is it going to be because? Is it downforce? Is it going to be because these guys are just sick of each other and start wrecking each other?

I definitely think it's going to be because of the racing close. There's going to be probably some spotter air at some point. There's going to be, it's just going to be guys trying to fit in spots like a plate race. This might not be there. Blaney chopped us yesterday. Kurt Busch chopped us yesterday. Somebody else chopped us. And I was like, man, at some point, you're going to get sick of that.

And you don't know if, like, TJ said, if it's the spotter calling it late, but all three instances with Clint, he could have wrecked the guy because he just simply didn't lift. And at some point, you're going to get sick of that. Yeah, I mean, I was having to clear Joey a few times. We had to pass a lot of cars yesterday numerous times. So I was having to clear him by half a car length off of two, and that's pretty tight. Especially when they got runs. When they got runs.

But the runs weren't as big. We were actually pretty fortunate. Our car was pretty good. So we could carry some good speed off the corner still. So the runs weren't as big. But you got to get up, man. If that guy gets out there, you know, you want the bottom in the three, obviously. But, you know, I had to clear him up a couple times.

Sometimes you're sliding up. If it's late, exit, not all the way straight yet. Sometimes you're sliding up just to take the air. If you can slide up a little bit and take some of that air, you're kind of messing up his run. So that kind of takes it away. Yeah, for sure. So we go into qualifying, and TJ was really the, only car I saw in the first round that attempted to get some sort of drafting help off the car in

front of him and it didn't look like it worked and I'm not I don't really want to say whether it did or didn't but but it looked like it didn't this week it's going to work yeah I feel like I feel like well I think it was going to work but we got loose he had to lift um he had we were following Eric and we had to lift because he got real loose and um that just killed the whole run I think if we could have completed that run and not had to lift right there um we we uh we went with different obviously we had different types of setups in the cars and what you're what you guys kind of went with we were we were more we were more sunday than friday and we we messed up in qualifying he ran one lap in the instead of running two and that

um i think we could have jumped up a little bit it wasn't going to be no miraculous lap but you know i think we could have started eight 10 positions better than where we did pretty easily but um but this week This week you're going to, I feel like at all mile and a half, you're going to, I think you're going to, we'll probably look for help. If you're looking forward to Atlanta, you can get a little bit. Unless you're trimmed out, if you're really trimmed out and you're just fast, you might, like, I mean, you might be able to do it. But this week, you're going to be stuck, man.

I noticed a lot of feedback on Twitter. People were saying that all of the passing was taking place, obviously, towards mid-pack. and if you're in the lead, nobody's ever going to pass the leader. I mean, what do you guys think about that, realizing? Well, I was leading and got passed, so. I feel like, you know, I feel like kind of around that second to the end, pit stop, Brad Caslowski hit up on something, and he drove from seventh or eight to second or third, and then obviously the pit thing went his way.

But I thought he went from the furthest back to the closest to the front on that run. I'll tell you what, though, Casey. Like, when you see eighth to 20th, it's a hornet's nest. And when one guy screws up, it screws up momentum. and when it screws up momentum, you have the opportunity to go by two and three cars, and that's at Atlanta. It's going to be even bigger at a high-grit place like Vegas. You know, the question is going to be when the guy screws up.

I'll tell you right now, on one of these restarts at a mile and a half, we're going to tear up 20 cars, eventually. Somebody's going to make an aggressive move, and it's going to try to get blocked. And we're going to, yeah, it's possible. Kurt Busch crammed the middle yesterday for the lead on a restart, and it was his teammate, the 42, himself, and I think Harvick at that point, and he crammed the middle, and then we all end up three and four wide, and that's the point where I was like, we're going to wreck, and we didn't wreck, and I was like,

the fact that we didn't wreck tells me it's really hard to wreck these cars because there was beating, there was banging, and that's where the downforce thing that I'm referencing, but at some point, somebody's going to get mad, and they're going to turn them. And when they turn that guy, we're all on top of each other. So there's not going to be anything these guys can do. There's not going to be anything that spotters can say other than good luck.

There's going to be close quarter of wrecks. There's going to be less handling wrecks. But these guys have already, in the last five, six years, these guys have gotten so good anyway. We rarely had guys. We rarely have guys wrecking. I mean, we don't. They just don't wreck.

Yeah. Well, we keep adding down for us. We keep getting that splitter lower everywhere we go. But now, I mean, it's definitely going to be harder, but now we're going to have wrecks. And now it's going to be guys making airs and racing with other people. So I think you're right, though. We started 27.

and we were right in the middle of all that for a while. We drove. I mean, we went through it. We went through it then. Had the pit road deal the first time. Came back out. Restored 22nd. Went through it again.

Had another pit road deal. Resorted at 18th. And had to go through it again. So we went through it three times. And it was a, you had to plan ahead of what you were getting ready to do. Judging by the gaps in the cars in front of you, you know, we were planning runs. You kind of had to be patient and wait until a guy would make a mistake. And that's when you bounce.

Back that line up. Yep. So it's cool. I know this one, sorry, I was on Twitter a lot yesterday. No way. You guys were going back and forth. I guess Clint was using the brakes a lot more. Can you tell us a little bit about what that?

So they've got this satellite tracking system that gives a lot more feedback to the pit box, and it kind of started last year. So, you know, the drivers have the ability in between practices during qualifying. Like, they literally are looking. at all of this data. And they're changing their driving styles because this package is new. We're all learning together. So during the race, Clint is asking questions specifically to the pit box in terms of

how much break these guys are using and where are they lifting? Are my marks close to their marks? So it's almost like he's sitting there taking a test and he's wanting to look at his neighbor's paper to see if his neighbor's got the same answer. And all these guys are really good at what they do, but they are able to mirror each other's driving styles if they need to. You know, when you have, and look, at a place like Atlanta, you're lifting, like TJ said, you're lifting, you're on the gas, you're out of the gas. You're still carrying way too much speed through the center of the corner, which is why we were shredding all those tires yesterday versus used to.

We wouldn't carry that much speed through the center of the corner. But they're just looking for one slight edge, and that's why Clinton was asking those questions. Yeah, I agree that they can see all the data, but I've also seen it kind of backfire as well. you can sure we can all look at what the fastest guy is doing it doesn't doesn't mean he's gonna doesn't mean your driver's gonna be able to go out there and do exactly that well like for instance two different drivers drove the two car on Saturday in practice both of them they had both of them drove completely different same car same setup completely different so it's hard to yeah you can see what the guy's doing sure you might be able to try to help yourself in that direction but it doesn't mean you can go out

there and do it right away but it doesn't mean you can go out there and do it right away but it definitely takes a lot of the, this is why Kyle was mad when they first started coming out with it, because people could go look at some of the things he's learned over the years as far as, you know, what he's doing with the throttle and brakes, and people can go and see that stuff now. But the game's changing. The cars are different now. The driving style is different. It's becoming more of a chess mind game now at some places. Like next week's going to be a, it's going to be a chess match. Don't get pinned here. Don't get pinned there. When's this? run coming. It's going to be more like a plate race. And you're going to have to protect your lane

sometimes. And, you know, it's not going to really matter. It's definitely turning into more like a thinking, thinking game. Yeah. I know we got a busy show, but I want to say this before we jump into it. I noticed yesterday the fastest car, one of the fastest cars, one of the best drivers, Kyle Larson, he got shuffled late for a penalty. There are a couple other guys that made mistakes on pit road had loose wheels. Man, once you're shuffled and you're past that second stage point and you're in really the final stage, which is really half the race, it's extremely difficult at a place like Atlanta to make that up.

So I don't know how that plays out at a Vegas or at Texas, but at Fontana, where once again, we're going to go somewhere that the track is slick. If you make a mistake, if these drivers screw up in the second half of that race, your day's done. You're not going to win. Yeah, you definitely make the race a lot harder yourself. But see, I'm kind of the opposite. We started 27th, drove the 9th. We restarted 22nd, drove the 6th.

Then we restarted 18th. You had a, but I mean, on Saturday, everybody's saying, who's the best cars? I was like the 18 before he wrecked, the 22 and the 42. So, I mean, and there was points in the run where I was telling Clint, hey, I think the 22's riding right here and saving his stuff for a few laps. And then the second half of the run, Joey was a rocket. Yeah, we were definitely impatient. But I could tell you that watching some data,

I know to me, Kyle was more for, the 42 is more for speed than handling. And if you don't have some handling when you get in that pack, it's hard. You're done. You're done. Like, it's hard to get through. So at a place like Atlanta, you almost have to throw out that, that, okay, we're just going to go for the speed. Because if you get to where you have to lift and lift a lot for the car, handling is an issue. Why are you lifting?

Because it's not handling good. So it's definitely hard, but you got to, we worked on handling a lot. So it's definitely tough, though. You can really put your day in a bind. Yeah, Kyle was trimmed out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Shall we head into spot-on, spot off? You tell us. Let's do it. Spot on, spot off. Spot on, spot off. You say spot off on a punch. Spot on and spot off. I'm going spot on.

So spot on, you like it. Spot off, you don't like it, and you say why either way. First topic. Spot off everything. Let's go with the next group. Do you have to be somewhere? No. Babysitting.

Didn't we spot on everything last week or off? What was it? I don't remember. I feel like it was kind of a mix because we had Freddie. Maybe not. Yeah. First question. Questionable lineup for final restart after caution comes out during green flag pit stops.

So we had Kozlowski, get the lucky dog, but then the nine team said that they should have received it. As Elliott says, he beat the two card to the start finish, but NASCAR says the camera clearly showed the two in front of the nine. and here's what Chase said after the race. Obviously weren't very good anyway, but even obvious, from what I've been told, missed call there. When the caution comes out to the start finish line, not the end of Pitt Road, so Allen made a great call to put on two to beat the eventual winner out there, and for whatever reason, NASCAR, I guess, missed it.

I need to kind of go back and understand it a little better, I guess, before I get really pissed off. but if that is the case, I will be pissed off. And I look forward to the week ahead because that's two missed calls in two weeks if that's the case for them. And here's Steve O'Donnell's response to that. Can you explain the Chase Elliott situation? He was, I think, kind of pressure.

I felt like they had beat the leader out, but was kind of questioning maybe where their positioning was. Yeah, it's very clear on the camera. So we'll show the team exactly what happened, but it was about a five-second differential in terms of what it was. All right. spot off. I mean, spot on if they've got the video for it and they're willing to

show the team. I'm not really sure where this was going to line chase up. Did they say in there where it was going to line? It would have been a lucky dog so he'd have been third. Okay, so third, I mean. With two tires. With two tires. Nonetheless, on Lilley lap, though.

You're not going anywhere or two tires at Atlanta. I'm sorry. You're not going anywhere. But, I mean, I get it. They would have probably made the two not win. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, he was fast at the end.

He was fast. He ran us down, past us with ease almost. So, I mean, spot on if NASCAR's got the video for it. And he seemed, I heard confidence in him right there. So I'm spot on if it's right. I'm spot on for Chase Elliott because grandma always said it's better to be pissed off than pissed on. So another thing, too, is what was the miss call last week? Probably when he was three wide on the restart.

Okay, so he says he was supposed to be in the outside lane, right? He was definitely in the outside lane. He was the top of three wide. So if there was two cars up there that had penalties, they pulled off late, so that lane shifts forward. I get it, they pulled off late, but you're really only going to be one lane forward on the inside still. You're not going to be the outside. If two cars are moving, you're going back to your lane still. still. You don't make your own lane.

They screwed that all up, though. But he got away with that. Yes. He should not have been three wide when he took the green. And he did that willingly by himself, is what I'm saying. And there wasn't no penalty. So, I mean, I... That was a weird, weird situation for all of us.

I was screaming already because it cost us two spots. Yeah. I mean, you don't want to lose spots. It's kind of a... NASCAR is in a tough spot right there because you don't want to extend the race, but you want the lineup to be right to. Daytona 500. You want the lineup to be right as well. But honestly, to me, they called them penalties before we lined up.

Way before. And they let the guys double up. If you let those guys, if those guys get called a penalty and double up and mess the lineup up for other people, I feel like there should be... A penalty to them. Taller, taller, stiffer penalties for that. If you mess the whole lineup up, you're not just messing the guy right, but you're messing everyone behind the whole lineup up. Yeah. So it's not really...

From third on back, they messed up. Yeah. And it's not fair for everyone behind them. Whatever lane you're in. No. You're not where you're supposed to be. Exactly. You know you're lining up and you have the penalty.

Yeah. So, yeah. And then the other lineup question during that final restart was that the officiating trailer called an over-the-wall too soon penalty on Truex, but then NASCAR says the tower overrode the call and Trux was allowed to restart up front and then finish second. And here's what O'Donnell said about that. Is he visualing the TREX penalty, non-pennelty, and how it got positioned where it was for that part? Yeah, it was a non-penalty.

So it automatically goes to the penalty sheet, regardless of if we override it in the tower. And that was one that we couldn't confirm that the foot was down via the camera angle, so we didn't make that call. Can I spot off that? Sure. Because Brad got penalized for something in his dual race that obviously now could have been overridden, because it was a mistake. I don't know, but everyone's learning still, and mistakes are going to happen.

I can't comment on this because I haven't seen the video that they saw. I haven't seen any of it. If I saw that video, I would give you my opinion, but I haven't. All I can tell you is I'm an NFL fan. I'm a college football fan. I watch a lot of replays when they play them, and there are calls that they let stand that I don't agree with, and there are calls that they overturned that I don't agree with.

So the reality is that this is an officiating, decision and and all we can hope is that they made the right one. I mean, I would think that they made the right one if they've got video. So to me, it's hard to make the wrong decision when you have video. I like replay stuff because that gives you the higher chance to get it right. 100%. So if there's a way to go look at it, maybe the guy did call it in wrong. They looked at it.

They got it right. I'm all for it. Do you think any of this was a new race official director guy? No, I don't think so No, he doesn't call that penalty him No And I'm not sure he even looks at it The pro trailer

So what happens is they got guys sitting in a pro trailer And they are responsible for X amount of cars Let's just say they're responsible for five cars So when pit road opens and closes Or these guys pit, those officials watch those five cars pit stop And they're looking for the uncontrolled tire The over the wall too soon Driving through too many pit boxes

All those things Then they call it into the tower Then the tower has the ability to then look at that video. I'm assuming that's the series director, but I don't know that for a fact. The guy calling the race doesn't have time to watch that video unless someone taps him and goes,

hey, we need you to watch this video because he's busy. He's managing fire trucks and ambulances and, man, telling you one to go, telling you all kinds of stuff. So I would think that that's more of a series director play and O'Donnell is probably just a spokesman on it. Yeah, yep.

Ryan Priest is taken out after making contact with the 52 on pit road. Spot on, spot off, TJ. Spot off, he was having a good run. Tough place. Tough place to race at and putting together a solid run. Unfortunate circumstances there with a guy with a flat tire. Just really didn't even, I don't know if you know, was it McLeod?

Yeah. B.J. McLeod. That guy is the last guy in the world that wants to be on pit road at that point. I saw his interview as well and just a bad set of circumstances. Bad things happened all at once. So I think Priest said he was looking. He was looking at his tack or something.

So, I mean, might want to look up a bit when you're coming out. So, I mean, obviously spot off to everything that TJ just said. I mean, ideally you wouldn't want BJ McLeod on pit road in the middle of Green Flagg, a lot pit stops going down, right? Caprice is running in the top. 10 chance for a really good day there at Atlanta. But this all, if you race long enough in the Cup series,

you're going to eventually have an incident on pit road that damages your car to the point that it completely screws up your day. And you have to learn from it and move on. You know, the spotter has the responsibility on Channel 2 a lot of times of telling the crew chief when that lap car, slower car is coming around so that the crew chief isn't screaming. and go because if the crew chief is screaming go, guess what the driver does? Go. He goes.

If the crew chief is saying, wait, the driver knows there's a car coming around him and he waits. So we have a responsibility on Channel 2 to help communicate that. The crew chief has a responsibility on Channel 1 to make the call. The driver has a responsibility of pulling out, looking at his mirror, looking at his tack, looking out his windshield, and then listening to the spotter because we pick him back up. That's a lot going on when stuff goes crazy and stuff went crazy. Yeah, it's you almost crew chiefs clear one lane. Then the next word you hope you hear is to the grass, to the grass, to the grass.

So I'll bet that scared him. Oh, he hit him a ton. You know, if he was looking down, then he looks up and there's that. I mean, it was like boom, boom, boom. Here's what it scared me the most about. I watched it live. And when he pulled out and he hit BJ, it looked like he was wide open. And when he hit him, it spun BJ's car toward the pit wall,

which is toward the crew members. And you see all those guys. divert and man I'm literally just thinking please don't trap a guy up against the wall like yeah this could be extremely dangerous because you got to realize man bj's coming in there at 30 40 miles an hour priest is leaving at 15 20 miles an hour they collide it sends a 3,000 pound missile into the pit wall you don't want to get hit by a car doing 15 miles an hour no so imagine one spinning at you 20 mile an hour even I mean that's what scared me the most spot on for no serious injuries following what could have been a big tragedy we've had tragedies on pit road where people

have lost their lives. Yep. You know, and unfortunately, it's a part of our sport. We do everything we can do to protect those guys and still have the format that we have. We didn't used to have pit road speed. I remember being in North Brooksboro watching Neil Bonnet come barreling down through there. He spun out and ended up in his pit stop backwards and nobody even hit him. He just was trying to go that fast, you know.

So we've done everything we can as a sport, including the helmet. I remember Cal Wells' team was the first team that I saw. He came out of IndyCar into the ownership side of NASCAR. His guys started wearing helmets. 32 car? Oh, look at them guys. We're in helmets. And now it's like, you know what?

That was probably smart. They're not being wimpy. They're being smart. So we're all in helmets. So I think precautions are made, but man, things can happen. They've done, we've done a ton to help protect people on pit road, especially with no walls from the racetrack to the pit road. That part scares me.

Yeah, that's definitely scary. We get to a Michigan and we have an outer pit wall. I feel really good about our guys. When we get to a Daytona and a Talladega, and there's no outside wall protecting the crew guys who are over the wall on the right hand side of the car changing tires because even if I start screaming they may not have time to run and I've seen cars wreck and hit like pit stall three at talladega fortunately nobody was in that pit stall at the time but that those open pit walls man they scare me yeah and it's almost there's almost nothing you can do about it though because if you put a wall up

there's an end of the wall somewhere there is and there is I would I mean but we pull it off at Dover and come on man like that's uh and we've seen people hit those bare barrels. Dover's a lot. You couldn't have stopped there a lot quicker than you are. Imagine a big wreck out of four at Daytona and the wall starting. Yeah. I mean, it's a bad situation. What do you just put a ramp? I don't know. I just hope nothing that happens. Knock on wood. I feel like there were a lot of issues on pit road. I mean, Joey and Bowman where one's stopping too short, the other one trying to get out. You want to talk about this or not? Well, it depends what you have to say about it. we just got to qualify better. We got to qualify better so we can avoid a lot of that.

And we don't have a very limited number of thoughts to pick from. It's just TJ wanting to talk crap about Bowman but avoiding it. I just know that we all could have done a better job there. We're trying to go around a tire carrier who's not really helping much, making it hard on us. And here we are going as deep as we can to help them out. And then we got another guy that comes in and just stops in the box wherever, and right front's barely in it.

But it's crowded. It's crowded. And everyone's doing as much as you can. And we just need to get it. We need to make better luck for ourselves. You wasn't Stenhouse in the way, was it? No. No, we worked well.

Is that who Martin was mad at at the end of the race? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I watched that a little bit. I'm not even sure I saw, I'm not even sure I saw him holding Martin up. I saw him kind of get out of the way down the backstretch,

and I'm not even 100% sure I saw him really hold him up. But you don't want lap cars. You know, Ricky's in a tough spot because he's a lucky dog, and the leader's right in front of him, and he's got another guy behind him trying to get to the leader. I mean, what do you do? Do you race? Well, I want to know what's going on behind me,

and if I know that nobody's close to me that's going to pass me for a lucky dog, I don't race. I think he was racing a car that wasn't far behind him. And I don't know that information because I was fighting my car. own battle. Yeah. I mean, we restarted like 10th on that last restart and then you come to fifth because you got lap cars in the way. Chase Elliott up there on two tires. Jimmy Johnson's two down. Stenhouse is up there. Did you pass? Bubba's up there. Bubba's up there like it's a, man, it was a cluster. But it was fun. Yeah. I feel like y'all deserve a raise for this new package. Let's record that to our

It's a lot of work. There's a lot more going on. It's going to be a lot more than just that one too. Two highest finishing Chevys were third with Kurt Busch and ninth with Busher. Spot on, spot off. I mean, they have speed.

I've seen it in other cars that had a little bad luck. The 47 had speed. 42 was very competitive, winning stages. So there's speed there. It's just, you know, it's not all the way

across the board yet. Spot on Kurt Busch. I mean, he ran top five all day. obviously Chris Boucher that's a great finish for him, a top 10 and I think yesterday there was a point I looked up and it was Daniel Hemrick, Ryan Priest Oh, there was a good group there.

Oh yeah, Ryan Priest, Daniel Hemrick and Busher. We're in the top 10 and I'm like, man, this is kind of what NASCAR wanted with this rules package. They wanted these guys showing up at their racetrack thinking they can win more than four times a year because when we get to plate tracks, everybody kind of beats on their chest and goes,

man, I got a chance. But let's face it, when they get to Atlanta and Vegas, they didn't really have a chance. So to see those guys in the top 10, I think, is NASCAR accomplishing what they want to set out. The big shocker here, though, is no Hendrick cars finishing the top 15. And the only one that showed speed at times was the 9. I mean, Jimmy Johnson was two laps down early. Very surprised at that.

I mean, he was running like 26th back there racing some guys that he's not used to seeing. William Byron's certainly not as fast as I thought he'd be either. So I think, I bet they went back to the drawing board hard for Fontana. Yeah, and that type of tracks the Jimmy Johnson type racetrack, too. So kind of surprising. Lugano says new package will create more drama and more tempers will fly. Spot on, spot off, Brett. Don't talk about a good time.

Show me one. You know, air an opportunity between these guys. Stop being buddies in the motorhome lot and let's go fight and race and do what people want to do. Yeah, I mean, we're all there to race. And this package is going to create some close racing. Guys are going to be... spotters are going to have to be more aggressive. Easy. Be careful what you ask for.

Spotter fights. Spotters are going to be more aggressive with their clears, with their spotting in general. Spotting is going to be more aggressive. And there's going to be times when somebody's probably going to say clear when the guy is a little more run than what the spotter really anticipated. And we're going to have some wrecks. And guys aren't going to be happy about that.

Some of us love spotting this style of stuff. and some of us don't. And if you don't enjoy really on top of each other plate-style racing, you're probably not going to be good at it. This is not, yeah, this is, the game is changing a lot right here. Info, info, info. This isn't the spread-out 10 car lengths between them. Hey, this guy's running the top now.

He made up a car length. This isn't going to be that anymore. This guy ran the top and he's coming with a run. You better do something about. I mean, I hate to say this, but I bet you for the first 15 lapses, at Vegas after restarts, lap times aren't even going to matter because we're going to be working the momentum, working the draft, you know, working just passing cars. And it's not going to be about lap time yet. Now, once we spread out, yeah, it's going to change. And when we do spread out,

I think we're kind of going to spread out and settle in pretty quickly. I don't think we'll see Joy Lugano drive from 27th the night that Vegas if he's spread out in he's 27. It's going to be harder there for sure. I think he's dead in the water because on throttle time is going to be higher. on throttle time, high on throttle time, decreases passing opportunity. But TJ's right, man, spotters, you better to get your shit together. Yeah, it's just going to be,

it's not old-fashioned anymore. It's the new game. New this season, we'll play a best of DBC moment during our break. Enjoy today's moment from episode 93 after Clint Boyer's win at Martinsville. Let's see if Clint answers.

It's trying to call him. Hey, hey, we're doing our podcast and we just were wondering if you were awake. That's a turn signal. So is that GD on air? Yeah, Casey's on air. Who? Casey. She's our new co-host.

You know Casey. Hey. Hey. Are you guys, are we on air right now? We're on air right now. Oh, so clean up. Yeah. It's podcast so we can edit it.

We beep it out. Just say whatever you want. Well, we did it up. Hey, well, I think your first motor blew at 10.30. With that terrible tequila shot. That was not my idea. That was the worst tequila ever. You had a lot of ideas for shots, bread.

Don't lie. Hand shotgun and beers. You don't like sound like very fun to drink with. Cool with that parking open. What? Hey. Hey, what happened? I think God, there were two guys on our team that weren't drinking.

Yeah. Somebody was that that got barn that wasn't drinking? Russell wasn't drinking and the other guy with a beard. I don't know his name. Hey, we, it's a sign of a big deal. We had two people fly in for the event, and the event was a celebration. Yeah. During the race win, it was a celebration was the event.

Yeah. Kevin, our buddy Kevin from Nashville flew in, surprises, and then Rusty, our sponsor, from San Antonio, Texas flew in. So I came to about 5 o'clock. about five o'clock somehow and went over and woke rusty up and had another couple cocktails and they had to leave and go to Boston to some business meeting. I just finished the Bloody Mary. He needs a refill, actually.

Are you serious? We're on the radio right now? We're going to be. Yeah. We're on the worldwide podcast. Is there any chance anybody's listening? I had an Uber to the show. They will be listening later, yeah.

Yeah, don't worry. Anything else you want to say? Hey, guess who? Elliot just called, like, just to say, hey, that was awesome. I hope you guys are still partying, and we put him on. And he just said it was really cool to watch on TV of how everybody got pretty much out of our way to let us win and not be a dick.

I know it. I guess you'd come up on those guys that have won there. Hey, what's it like winning there? What's it like winning there, Clint? What's it like to win there? T.J. wants to know what's it like to win there? It's pretty cool, isn't it? Oh gosh

Better job We did Really beat The only Halfass did a good job Well hey man You dominated him It was good to see you win

This was that official clip Is that how we got on there Right there Because you guys just switched gears And got real official on me I'm not ever official I'm hammered I'm still hammered

He is struggling right now We had to have something official For the show So We're walking in Twin Peaks I'm going to get a All right You boys have fun

See you. Jason, that's the longest break. Yeah. Hey, our breaks are usually like two minutes with the commercial. How long was that turns? We need to, I just hope that we went in Vegas and I have the same issue next week. That turn signal was on forever. I guess it's a theme, the hot tequila shots because apparently did one then and then we did one last week too.

You going to try one, Jason? No, I take the tequila bottle all my freezer to put some ice packs in there. Yeah, what happened to you? I was fighting off some. tigers and they were trying to attack these kids and I had a Jason we're not 12 that's exactly what I was thinking tell us the truth Jason I was playing basketball and then went to sit down pretty awkwardly afterwards and my new like that you didn't get hurt playing the game you got hurt sitting down it was it after you yeah goofball okay maybe not the tiger part but you

could have come up with a better excuse so I got her sitting down oh my gosh you're not going to believe it's I pulled something I need some I Clearly, you don't have good knees. Clearly, you should say you were dunking. Clearly, you should not do whatever you did. Yeah. Yeah, Zion. I was playing Bassmont Lake started hurting and afterwards once it down,

and they've hurt a lot then. Zion Schultz in our studio, everybody. My Nike is held up. All right, Casey, let's go. Fast lane. I'm hungry. Ready, set, go. And we are back.

We'll head in the Fast Lane. I'll give these guys three topics pertaining to racing, and one that is off the wall. They'll have 30 seconds to run. respond to each. First question. Drivers including Chris Busher, Daniel Hemrick, and Ryan Priest ran near the front at times on Sunday. Does the new package make it easier for surprise names to run better and who are some that you expect to improve their performance? Brett. I definitely think it gives them a chance to run better. You know, I think probably seeing, we touched on this a second ago, it was cool to see them up there,

but I think you probably see them up there because Larson makes a mistake. Ligano makes a mistake. A lot of guys had penalties and it ultimately opens the door. But what it does tell us is race smart. Don't give up. This is a long race. You never know what may happen. So if you're running 15th, chill, you may be able to get a top 10 out of it. Much better.

Yeah, it's cool to see. And these guys are going to chip away with some decent finishes. And it's going to give them some confidence to hopefully keep chipping away at this. I think it's good. And it's going to benefit some of these guys like Ryan Priest, Chris Busher that are ready to take some risks that are going to like this close racing. Hey, I'm not content here. I'm going to go through wide.

I'm going to make this move. You know, Hemrick don't know any better. If he gets a big run, he might take it, might pass four cars, might wreck five cars, you know, so it's going to be good. I just want to say that I said Hemrick was going to be good before he got into Cup. I said it for two years, and I was not surprised to see him running as well as he did yesterday. I think he's got a lot of talent. I think the other guy behind him, Tyler Redick, is just as damn good, if not better. I think Tyler Reddick is probably the most underrated driver in the Xfinity series right now.

Obviously, he just won a championship. He did it by kicking everybody's tail at Homestead running that high line. Left Junior Motorsports the champion, got to RCR, just had a great debut run over there. Tyler Redick is the next big thing. Watch. All right. This week's race in Las Vegas will again see a new arrow package. what are the differences between the Atlanta package and the Vegas one?

T.J. I think the air ducts are pretty much the main thing. A lot more drag. A lot more drag this week. The guys are going to be able to carry a lot more throttle. The track's not going to wear out. We're going to be two by two runs, momentum. Just a lot more on throttle time.

A lot more throttle, a lot more momentum. I honestly think you see the leader take off or whoever gets the lead after the initial restart. I think you see that leader take off because from second on back, we're all going to be doing what TJ and I've been talking about, which is fighting so hard. We're going to be side-drafting each other. We're going to be trying to take air off the cars, pack air on the spoilers, get these guys loose, get runs. I think it's going to be a really, really good entertaining show for 10 to 15 laps after every green flag. After that, we don't know what we don't know because we only did 25 lap runs when we went out and tested and there were 14 teams. So we don't know a lot about what's going to happen after the lap 25.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting. I'm interested in seeing when the tire fall off happens or if it even happens at all. You know, how bigger runs are we going to be able to get with a pack that big? The test was a little bit of a, you know, we saw a little bit what happened to test, but now it's race time. Now things matter. Now things count. A guy's going to get a run. You're not going to be willing to let him go like you might have been a

to test because you don't want to wreck. Now it matters. So that's going to be good. Heading to Las Vegas and with the potential for sports betting to expand nationwide, what are some types of bets you think NASCAR fans should be able to bet on at the track? Brett. Well, I think the most obvious is obviously who's going to win the race. And then I would love to see bets that put these guys in manufacturer groupings and says,

okay, who's the highest finished Chevrolet and give you a money line on that. So eight or nine guys, you know, Jimmy Johnson. at plus 320 to be the highest finishing in class. Highest finishing in shot, put SHR on the board. Pickwish driver is going to finish the highest out of those four. Stage wins, an opportunity, fastest slap of the race. I enjoy gambling when I'm in Las Vegas, not on racing, but on other sports. So I'm a big fan.

I mean, we even said on this show years ago, put a betting window at the tracks. Well, guess what may be coming? It's amazing what we can predict around here. Yeah, there's a lot of fun things, like he said, like fastest slap, something like that. You know, there's a lot of things that would be cool to add in there. I'm not sure we'll ever see that, but... Oh, we will. I mean, it's interesting.

Over under on Timmy Hill. What do you got? 28? Yeah, I mean, that'd be... Timmy Hill! Timmy, your boy. Your boy. Yeah.

I'd like to bet on the number of times the broadcasters will say package, because they say a lot. Did they? I heard Mike Joy blasted B.J. McCleck. Yeah, he got... Oh, yeah. Does he know that B.J. McLeod's right, big boy? I'm 5-8-200. I'm going to say B.J. 6 foot 2.25.

He's a big dude. Bigger than I am. He's got... And Mike Joy, this is hard. He's got sleeves, I think, too. He does. He still wears affliction t-shirts. Those things got...

Rightfully so. Why? Look at him. It'll snap you. It'll snap you. Affliction? Yeah. He will snap you.

Fliction's played out. You know who he is when you walk in the grass. You say you like it right now. He's going to snap you in half next week. Affliction is played out. We have to tell our boy Mona has that all the time on the roof. Says who? He don't say it.

Who, Mona is? No. BJ? Yeah. So you're saying BJ makes the rules on dress around here? He makes whatever rules he wants to make. He looks like a badass biker dude. He does.

He's a super nice guy, though. I don't know if you ever talked to him. I haven't talked to him. He is a super nice guy. He's a super nice guy. I feel like he's kind of underrated, because he is, I mean, he's there. Like at every race. Did you have a friend named McColl that actually works with Nutrient Ag Solutions,

the racing program there. And she's infatuated with B.J. McLeod. Like I'm telling you, full-blown, she's married. She knows he's got a girlfriend. She's got kids. She's not trying to break up her marriage. I don't think. But all she talks about every time I talk to her, B.J. McLeod, I need to meet B.J. McLeod.

Did you know that he is an established late bottle driver in Florida? Did you know that? No. Like tons of wins. like dominant in Florida, like Lakeland area, places like that. Which brings you to a guy like Jeffrey Earnhardt, right? He gets in a fast exfinity car, is running second on the final restart. I've always said, and Jeff Gluck gives me a crap about it sometimes,

but fast cars go fast. These guys can all drive. It's just a matter of getting in the right situation. I mean, look at Joy Ligano. He's at Gibbs, struggling to run in the top 10, gets to Penske, contends to win us all these races, is a champion. Like, it's just, it's amazing how you have to be. In the right place at the right time.

You definitely have to be in the right place. But yeah, I didn't know that until this weekend that he was an established like winner, numerous time winner and late models. Maybe that's when he bought all that affliction stuff when he was making all that money. Hey, those t-shirts, I had some. They were $120 a piece. Yeah. Snap you in half.

$120 for a t-shirt. I think it fits him well. Remember that? Please snap him, BJ. Do you have bling on your jeans ever, Casey, anymore? Not anymore, no. I had to think about it, no, not anymore. It's funny you go to small towns and some girls are still sporting them.

They still got the bling jeans on their pockets. I used to have quite a few pairs, actually. That's what I'm saying. They're played out. You still have them. No. None of them. They're expensive, too.

I can't remember the last time we were like bell bottoms. Like, they're all skinny jeans now. Yeah. You don't boot cut, you mean? Skinny. All right. Off the wall question. Break dancing is considered an addition for the 2024 Olimat.

How well would you perform as an Olympic break dancer? And I think we need to see this, honestly. I'm not going to perform very well at all. But I'm pretty sure this table will hold Brett's weight. Brett, if you want to send you in your video. You know, I don't think I can break dance well anymore. Like I can still hip-hop. I can still hip-hop.

I mean, I can do some of the moves, but I can't do like, I mean, I can still pop, but I can't do like all that crazy stuff on the Florida that I used to do. There's a camera right over here. But I could still hip hop like the Bobby Brown, MC Hammer Days. I can still do all those moves. But the breakdancing, especially in 2024,

I'll be close to 50. So when this show's over, I'm going to go there and turn that camera over to the floor over here. And you can show us a little something. I don't know. Maybe. Yes.

I got on the wrong shoes. I can turn that camera. My shoes are grippy. I can just grab my iPhone. You need slick shoes. Slick? I might do one. Take your shoes off.

Just be the socks. Well, that's an option. Okay. Dilloner stay upstairs, please, because I don't want, I'm going to touch your expensive camera. Ask DBC. First question. P. Schmitz. Yep, 1998.

1988. Pete Schmidt's 1988 asks. Sorry, I'm so tired. Oh, this is a good one. Brett, what did you make of Austin Dillon's move in qualifying on Clint? What is the rule for cars leaving pit road to start the session? What is the role, Britt? I don't know.

Is there a rule? You're supposed to maintain the pit road speed still. I thought we got away from that. No. You're supposed to try. Why didn't they black flag us? That's what I'm wondering. So, Mike, the question is, what did I think of also as Dillon's move?

So we knew when it went green, we wanted to go as fast as we could go to get our momentum up, right? Because this whole package is all about momentum. I mean, when we went to Vegas to test, it took us five laps in race trim to kind of reach peak speed, right? So Clint knew he wanted to leave his pit box and go. We knew Austin Dillon was going to leave his pit box and go, but Austin didn't go as hard as Clint was going. So I think when Austin realized Clint was going to come around him, Austin was like, uh-oh, I need to block him.

Well, he tries to block him on pit road, and obviously Clint didn't want to be blocked. So I thought it was extremely entertaining, and I think it just speaks to the level of competition and the stress this on these guys to go out there and get all they can possibly get at all cost, to the point that we almost wrecked and hit the inside pit wall trying to get our qualifying lap in. So, man, I just think it speaks to the passion and intensity that qualifying is bringing,

maybe even now more so than ever, because track position, pit stops, pit crews being on, spotters being on. You can't screw up anymore. It's like we took an error and what used to be okay. Now it's like, oh, it's not okay anymore. So we wanted to qualify as well as we could. Obviously, we did third. Yeah, that was interesting. I was watching just like everybody else

It's not like I went Clear gunna was inside You know go do it I mean you literally just like He's going up You keyed up and I said clear Guys want the same thing And if you see somebody trying to take it

Sometimes you at that point That's what they want with knockout qualifying Us trying to vie for the same hole I mean we see it all the time in practice Where two guys are sitting at the end of pit road One starts to go The other goes harder I can see where this becomes more

of a moderate thing now Because I don't know sure we need to be racing off pit road like that. You know, it's kind of the luck of the draw. Hell, let us do it. Get that official behind the wall and let's go. It's kind of luck of the draw when you, because you get your qualifying spot out there. It's draw, you know, so it's not like it's, it's just random.

So big applaud to NASCAR for shrinking the window. Oh, the time. Holy cow. The first round. Thank you, Jesus. Way better. We said on this podcast four years ago when groups qualified started, 25 minutes is too much. then 20 minutes was too much.

10 minutes, you finally, this is it. Like, good job. Actually, I have a question on that. Now that they slowed the cars down, this is completely separate. But are they going to shorten the race a little bit? Or is that not make a difference? I think that's on the table next year. I don't think it happens at all this year.

Just watching it, I remember thinking. I would have loved a seen yesterday been a 400-mile race, honestly. Yeah. A little long. I think the last part of the race, so it needs to be split up by at least one or two green flag runs, though. Yeah.

Dick T. Racing asks. Brad won after receiving two IVs before the race. What's the sickest you've ever been and called a race? We've both been sick, TJ. I was sick of Darlington probably five years ago. And, like, throw up everything, the whole entire race. And I'm pretty sure I have my head down, probably three quarters of the race. Because Eddie DeHont was next to me.

Every little bit, he'd be like, hey, hey, you all right? Your car's over here. clear so that was it was bad that race seemed like it took an entire day i woke up um started the track that night i believe woke up the next morning and it was i was just sick sick and i probably shouldn't have spotted that race i've had two instances where it was uh was really difficult the first time in my life where i really really struggled was Vegas last year and we we had uh I felt great and went out to dinner Saturday night with some folks, went gambling, hit a straight flush on three card poker, won over $2,000, went to bed at 11 o'clock.

I woke up at 4 o'clock in the morning with chills, a fever of 103, and I honestly didn't know if I was going to be able to make it to the track, and we don't have backups. So I get my stuff together, do the best I can, get to the track, go immediately to the infield care center, I get IVs, I get nausea meds, get through the race, I'm, I am so sick. I literally sleep the whole flight home. I don't sleep on planes because I think they're going to crash. I'm a nervous wreck. I get home. I got to my doctor and I had strep throat. And it was the sickest I have ever been. I've had pneumonia. I've had mono. I've had a lot of things. I mean, I'm 43, right? I've been sick. Sickest I've ever been in my life was strep throat last year after we left Vegas to start the playoff. Miserable. Yeah, it's not. It's not fun. The only other time it was hard is my mom had hip fell and broke her hip the morning of the Xfinity race in Charlotte. And she went to the hospital and I went to the racetrack. The next day, she went into surgery and I went to the roof to spot.

So it was very hard to concentrate and do your job when your mom's in surgery. And you literally ask yourself, what the hell am I doing? But there again, we don't have backups. Everybody was aware of my situation and you still got a step up. There's a couple times where I've been told info that happened before the race, and I didn't get the info until after the race on purpose. Madeline broke her leg when she was like, I think, four, three or four or something. And it was Charlotte Race, and they knew before the race that it happened.

And Mike Davis pulls me aside after the race. It's like, hey, come here, and you talk to you. I'm like, you know what? We should be getting ready to go. And he's like, hey, so you know, Madeline broke her leg. she's fine. We didn't tell you before because we didn't even freak out.

Everything's fine. I'm like, so here's the position we're in. Like our jobs, and look, we have great jobs. I'm not discounting that. Our jobs comes before our personal life.

And in those situations, I mean, it is what it is. But at the end of the day, like this isn't all fun in games out here either. There are days that are really struggles. And I mean,

two hours before the race at Charlotte, I was crying. Wraid about my mom. You go get on a roof and go do your job. Last year. We won Talladega. I'm in Victory Lane, leaving Victory Lane, getting ready to walk over to the garage,

put my radios in the holler or something, and my phone rings. And it's my wife, and she told me, she's like, hey, I couldn't tell you during the race, but your grandpa passed away during the race. So that was, I was like, hey, oh, dang. So. This lifestyle ain't for everybody. This question is from Anna KJ. How do you work out, how do you work out where this? stand every week on the spotter stand.

I thought she was asking me for workout tips. That's why I said I had to reason. New segment, workout tips. Well-ounce curls. Apparently this new show, they can see my body. And do you always stand with your teammates? Are there some spots better than others? How about Brett?

You go? We kind of have our spots. I mean, I think at this point, I probably... The best spot is a spot you're used to for you. Yeah, for sure. For me, I mean, I think I'm actually at the time. this point been in the cup series spotting longer than any other spotter up there i started when i was really young i was only 23 so i've been up there 20 years and i've seen a lot of good guys come and

and so we kind of have our places where we stand for the most part i'm really only picky at richmond at darlington and indy uh beyond that i'm i'm pretty flexible on where i end up yeah we've all been pretty much standing in the same spot for i've been in the same spots for 15 years now roughly uh haven't moved much and you know a lot of times you're knew your teammates. You know, we can go, we can sit here right now and pull a track up, and I can tell you almost where every guy that I know for whatever car is going to be at, you know, sometimes we have new guys or whatever, but if a guy switches a team, he still goes back to his spot. You know where that guy is going to be. I mean, you know where people are at.

We used to pick based on where you qualified. So if you qualified seventh, you got to pick your spot seventh on race day morning, but we've realized that we're all grown in and we don't have to be babies. You would end up just picking the spot where you, you were going to stand anyway. Yeah. There was a truck series driver in my Xfinity series Spotting Spot at Daytona. And I walked up and I was like, hey, bro, I'm sorry, but you got to go somewhere else. And he turns around and he's looking at me like, this guy serious.

Man, I ain't trying to move my three different times during this weekend. It's a big roof. See you. Then he threw Brett down. He was, I mean, he got it. And Brett moved stuff. I get it. Nobody's, nobody's tape was out.

Yeah, but I mean, it's sort. He moved Brett stuff for him. Yeah. That's how that happened. Oh, all right. What are we ranting about? TJ, you got a rant? You know, I'm saving up.

I don't have rant either. There is some exciting news coming out on Thursday this week, though, for me. For you? Yeah, started a new company, be firsts, and we've got a big announcement on Thursday. Really excited. Nice. Heading to Orlando. Congrats.

Thank you. Do we get to hear before? Be first at what? At what? What else is there to be first at? Everything. At what? We're racing?

We're everything. We're first. It's an animal. movement. I want to be first and everything. That's what we are. I just want to thank everybody who came up to me in Atlanta and said that they love our show. Oh, awesome.

Was that in the rain? It was in the rain. Okay. It was raining. I love that too when they do that. Yeah. It made me feel so special. I hear a lot every weekend.

You know, it's a handful of times a weekend. Somebody walked by and be like, hey, I love the podcast. Like, just random times as well. I'm going to start hugging every person that tells me that. Do it. Like, I've been high-fiving them saying thanks. I'm just going to just give my really embraced 30-second awkward-ass hug. Yeah, I love the podcast.

Not you. You don't qualify. And Daytona, too. I feel like there are a lot of people in Daytona that comment. I want to be first. See? You get it. What a great name.

I'll be the first one. If you want to sponsor our podcast, tweet me. And I'll be first. And I'll sign you up. And I like, Brett, I like your outfit today. Thanks. I like your camera. They told us not to wear green in case you and I both rolled up in here in green.

That's how air-headed we are. Yeah. I never wear green either. You'll be invisible in the video. Yeah. Awesome. All right. Well, we'll go to the picks, I guess.

Man, you took a heavy hitter right off. Kala. I won, too. Yeah. So, dang. I had to pick, though. I had it until the penalty. You did.

So I told. good, that's all right. I'm going to go with Larson. Oh, Larson's solid. I'm going to go with probably a guy that's not a very strong performer. Kyle Busch. I love that you're using these all up in the year. All right. Tips. Real man like Bush beer. Fantasy tips. So what is one driver they should not leave off their lineup? Kyle Busch. Yeah, I mean, but that's every week. Let's give them the shot in the dark, man. And like, who, who, I honestly think you roll with, uh, my wild card this week would be Ryan Priest. Got a little momentum, knows he can do this, way less of a handling track.

Now it's going to be able to, now it's risk versus reward. I saw this guy test. And when he got the lead, he was lights out. And early in every run, he was lights out. He struggled on some of the second halfs of those runs. But I couldn't tell if he was trying to put his car in a position to see what dirty air was going to do, Austin Dillon would be my sleeper. I knew that's what you're going to say.

Why don't you just say it for me? You could be first to say it. I feel like this is kind of the same question. What's the driver you'd consider adding? It's not the same question? Yeah. No, just someone's surprise. Well, I guess.

I gave you that. Okay, got it. My surprise, those are surprises kind of because they're not someone that you're not Kyle Busch. They're not, you know, the cars that are going to show all the speed. These are guys that are going to race better than what you see Friday and Saturday. So they're going to race better. when it gets showtime.

Yeah. Movie review. Yes. I watched show series. Okay. Entertaining. So, very funny. It was a lot about the PR marketing stuff, too, which I thought was pretty insightful.

And my favorite part was when the guy tries to steal the winner's girl by faking an injury and just like walking off. And I'm like, hey, I can probably do that now. I can go to the bar and do the same thing. Yeah. Chicken suit in the car was funny. And all the PR stuff he had to do, that was pretty good. Did you clock anybody? Not yet.

Did you enjoy seeing all the old-timer drivers in there? Yeah, that was good. That's what I get out of it. It's nostalgic to see Neil Bonnet in that thing, man, you know, some of those guys. For sure. Six-pack with Kenny Rogers. That's your next assignment. Okay.

Then after that, we'll branch out in the non-racing movies. Yeah, man. Porkies. I've got some time to sit around and watch some movies now. Here they come. We got to hear you. Oh, geez. We're getting kicked out.

All right. Thanks, guys, for listening. If you want to sponsor the show, sponsor us. Yeah, be the first to sponsor the show this year. Yes. Be first. Be first. Send us some feedback. Share it like it. Feedback is always good. And Casey always sends gifts to people that send feedback with stuff. Casey, that's awful nice of you. By me, he means himself. No, I mean you. We'll see about that. You got the best looks here. Where are you staying at Vegas? I guess that's a wrap. Yeah. Where are you staying at Vegas? Oh, wait, down the strip of ways. I'm not in the first.

fun area. Yeah, South Point. Oh, yeah. That's not near the strip. Cosmopolitan, girl. Love that place. That's what's up. Sorry about to clap, Dillner.

Yeah. Oh, we get it. I got excited. Vegas Cosapolitan. I want a lot of money there last time. We got stripped throat. We're awake. We out.

Have a good week, guys. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Mo.