Door Bumper Clear - 133 - Partying on Talladega Boulevard

Episode Date: April 30, 2019

Karsyn Elledge joins the gang after a wild weekend at Talladega to talk more horsepower for the Cup cars, the timing of the last lap caution, manufacturer team meetings, NASCAR racing in Mexico, hottest drivers and partying in the Talladega infield.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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I'm Casey Boat, and the game is all in the studio after a wild weekend at Talladega. Carsonelage is also here. We'll catch up with her and hear more about her college life. We'll cover last lap crashes on Sunday, racing with the increased downforce package. Kevin Harvick's comments after an early wreck and NASCAR racing in Mexico. Plenty more, of course. Ready, set, go. I'm T. J. Majors. This is Brent Griffin.

Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got here. New leader. All right down for this guy. White flag. Recregan.

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Clear. Woo!!! Well, hello, everyone. Hi. Hello. Yeah, welcome to the show. We have a special guest, Carson Ellagem House. Hey.

What's up, girl? What's up? How old are you now? 18. Oh, we can talk to you now. Yeah, now I'm like legally allowed to be on this show. You're finally not a, what do you call those people, a delinquent? What?

Minors, Brett. Minors? Oh, you're not a minor anymore. Delinquent. Not a minor. You're not a major. You're not a delinquent. Oh, you're going to catch so much hell now that you're 18 on this show.

Yes, finally. Not for me. It's all going to be from him. I don't think your mom listens anymore, so that makes it even better. So it might be in the clear. I'm not chancing it. Chancing it. This isn't one of those risk at all scenarios.

Yeah, I'm not chancing either, sorry. How's college life treating you? It's been good. I'm finally done when my first semester I limped through. I made it. Did you make any A's? Yeah, wait, I don't know, honestly. If I did, it would have been in my first semester.

What do you mean you don't know if you made an A? That's why you go to school is to get grades. I can't remember. Like, my first semester I did really, really good. So was there an A? Yeah, sure. There was an A. I'm not feeling like there's an A in art.

No, there was. It's in my advising class, which was really easy. I just had to sit there and listen, and I get points for being there. So I got an A in that. I mean, you showed up. That's impressive. So what's your GPA right now? I don't even know.

How do you know that? The reason you go to school is to get grades. How do you find that? No, you don't. The reason you go to school is to get your diploma so you can just start the real world. It's not a diploma. You get a diploma from high school. No, you guys.

A college school? Get a degree. Well, that's the same thing. No, it's not. A piece of paper still. Whatever, it counts. It's way different. I feel like I learned nothing in college except for drinking.

That's exactly why you go to college. I don't really see a point. Did you get a fake ID, Carson? You know what? You actually. Oh, my God. I'm not going to say I didn't. You almost could pull off.

You have it right now. You could probably pull off Casey. I just lost my wallet. Casey wasn't so old. You could totally have hers. No. So I lost my wallet at the end of March, and so, like, I just finally got all my cards back in the mail, and I'm, like, not living off of quarters anymore. But, yeah, I lost my wallet, so that's how college going, that's how college is going for me.

Yeah, you almost, lost your fake. I think she could pull off Casey's ID? Or is Casey too old? How old are you, Casey? Like 25? 26. Whoa, easy. No, older.

See, I was being nice. Thanks. Yep, that by a lot. You hear that clock is ticking, yes. Might want to put the bones in the oven. Pull the goalie. Are you a hockey fan? You pull the goalie.

Were you there at Chad's birthday when he made that comment? Oh. So he's on 29. Chad's all about those kind of jokes these days. What kind of comment that Chad made? He just is really dumb when it comes to comments like that. So we were at, we celebrated his birthday on Saturday. Carson was there.

And Chad's parents had friends over as well. and somebody we had just met comes out to me and was like, oh, you guys are newlyweds, right? Oh, and then she's like, oh, you've got to be having babies soon, right? No, she said you must already be pregnant. And I was like, uh, nope. Oh, that's kind of an insult. Yes, what?

How's an insult? If that's saying that he basically married you because you were pregnant. I didn't pick it up that way. No, I think she just meant that, like, once you get married, you like, pick it up. You know, so anyways, she's, we're leaving. So are you? No, I'm definitely not. Definitely not.

We're leaving and she's like, make sure you get started soon. And Chad's like, well, we've been trying every night. Oh no, Chad goes, we've been practicing a lot. And I was like, seriously? In front of all of his mom's friends. Like they just look at Chad like. Most girls gain 15 pounds and cut their hair when they get married. So the pregnancy thing, I'd say wait a couple years.

Oh, did I tell you? So Chad already made a comment. about that. He's like, wow, you haven't cut your hair yet. Yeah. Please don't. Yeah. Well. So, Carson, what are we majoring in in college? No way.

Undecided. You're killing me here. I have no idea what I want to do with my life. She's done our grade. She's done our GPA. She's done our major. I don't know anything. What is this college good at? Like, every college has something that they're good at with majors. What majors are good there?

Their best one is a lot of people go there for nursing. Okay. But. But you're not nursing. No. No. None of that for me. I don't know.

I just don't know what I want to do. Like, I kind of just want to race. I had surgery last week. We know. Oh, that's gross. Oh, that's ugly. Shoulder surgery. I wish I didn't look.

I wish I didn't look right there. Yeah, she's racing. I feel like that just is enough. I need to bleach my eyes after seeing that. Yeah, but you've got to make something to you like. I don't even know if I'm going to make it back for another semester. Why? You quitting?

No, I'm going to do something. Just not college. Like, I thought about going to, to like cosmetology school. I could do hair or something like that. Did you go there because you wanted to cheer or did you go there for the academics? Or why did you pick this one? I was close to all the racing that I do.

So you wanted to be, yeah. My mom said that she knew I had an alternative plan when I picked to go to Indiana. But I just, I don't know. I like it. And I was cheering, but then they kicked me off. So I didn't get to finish cheering. And so then I was bored. Good.

But it wasn't because I did anything bad. It was just because our schedules didn't match up. She races like a lot for, Chad. I know. I don't know how she could cheer and... Tell me about that flipping experience where you went way too high. Oh, gosh. That was not fun, but it really was all my fault. Like, I was just driving way and over my head. I was, I did something stupid and ended up in the sea main and then I did something stupid in the sea main. I was like leading and I spun out

again. And then I just got pissed off and there was steam coming out of my ears. Then you up on the ceiling. Ended up getting my pilot wings. So... Did you piss your pants? No. Did you, like, freak out, though? Is that your worst wreck? Chili.

Yeah, I mean, probably. That was the most air I got. I flipped at Chili Bowl, too. But I don't know. Chili Bowl, I landed, like, I got hit Cage first. So that one was, like, I don't know. They were both pretty, not fun. Yeah.

I would be fine if I never did that again. Well, I mean, you know, obviously those kind of cars, they do. do that. I mean, that's part of the thrill of it. I mean, Chili Bowl has a flip count and all that stuff, right? But, yeah, I mean, seeing your replay in the pictures, I was like, oh, my gosh. Yeah. It's crazy. It was. Your daredevil. Yeah, that I was trying to be cool. You know. Find other ways. Yeah. I want to try something else to be cool there. Yeah, I got some publicity out of it, but the car, the paint team looked great, I will admit. Yeah, I'm upset that I had it flying through the air because it looked pretty good.

So are you living back down here? You're just visiting? No, I just am visiting right now. And then I need to go back and take one more exam because I had to miss one to come down here. Right. And then after that, I'm just free for the summer of racing. Yeah.

I know it's a hard week for your family, obviously, with Brenda passing. And I got to tell you, the first time I met her was with Kelly. And Kelly and I were probably in our 20s. And Brenda was probably in her 40s, I'm going to guess. and we were on the infield at Charlotte Motor Speedway. They had this gigantic concert when Winston was leaving the sport and Sprint was coming in, and it was like Led Zeppelin and Trace Atkins and, I mean, big-time bands.

And it was an all-day concert and we had all day fun, all day. You know what I mean? That was the first time I ever hung out with her and she's a super fun lady. She knew how to have fun. That was her thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she was the life. She was the life of the party.

Yeah, that's actually in my speech for her funeral this afternoon. is I put like she was the definition of life of the party. If you look it up in the dictionary, there's Brenda's face right there. Like she brought the party wherever she went. There was not a dull moment. Your mom and I were texting about it and we told a few things that I can't tell on this show. And it was like, yep, that was that day. Yeah.

So, you mean, you know, a lot of times you forget meeting people, but sometimes when you have, you know, big impressions which she did have on me. So think about all you guys, obviously. Thanks. Casey, you're ready to get this show started? Yeah, how was Talladega? Yeah, we didn't even talk. I mean, you're telling you.

I didn't finish any races. So, DNF, day one, DNF day two. I mean, I finished yesterday, but not really. Just rode around. Me and you almost hit on pit road one time. Yeah. That got close. Real close.

A lot of people were asking if you and Freddie got into it. I flipped him off, caught him a dick. Wait a minute. Last time I did that, you got mad. And then he came up there to talk to me and I flipped him off again, told him I don't want to talk to him. I mean, it just sucks because it's on lap 10. And look, I'm a Bubba fan.

I think he's a hell of a race car driver. Obviously a stupid move on his part to go up there and wreck himself and wreck the field and wreck a bunch of good race cars on lap 10. I mean, that's a place where he could have been really relevant all day, and there's not a lot of opportunities for that team to do that. So it was unfortunate to see him not be relevant for more than 10 minutes, you know. Yeah, he was actually running really well there sitting in a pretty good spot. I know, you know, Bubba doesn't – I think that's a place.

This is what happens when the team gets like this. so they can be competitive at a place like this, and that's where you can get yourself in trouble. And nobody, everybody was still trying to figure the cars out a little bit, you know, how the runs were going to be. Nobody knew. Nobody knew going into that race exactly what was going to happen. Like, nobody knew how the draft was going to be,

how the cars were going to handle in a big pack. We had a decent pack, but nobody was really, I don't feel like it was as aggressive or it wasn't race. It wasn't race-like, you know, it was, but it wasn't. Yeah. So, you know, That race started off super, super aggressive for 10 laps until Bubba caused that wreck. And then everybody really calmed down for the most part until kind of the end of stage two there.

That last stage was. It was the middle stage there. Was it the middle stage where it kind of got? No, you're right. I guess the end of the first stage and the end of the second stage were pretty. It was pretty chill. Well, for the first six cars, the first six cars were all, okay, this is where I'm going to take this right here and this is what I'm going to finish. Um, further back than that, it was pretty wild.

Yeah, it, uh, I don't know, man. It reminded me of when we ran those two by fours on the roof in like 2002, the runs were huge. I mean, there were points in the race where I saw guys like Martin Truex and Kyle Busch. They looked like they were running 20 miles an hour faster than the cars around. It almost looked like they had nitrous. And if I'm a fan and I'm sitting in the stands, man, you, you had to have liked that. If you're watching on TV, obviously, which I don't know what the broadcast was like, but it was, I will admit, it was great.

like I thought everything was fine but when the track and the cars were most aggressive is when they went to commercial. They went to commercial every five minutes. It was, there were a lot of commercials and so we were talking about it too like literally on Twitter is when you have to find out

okay so what's going on. Was it on cable or network? Network Fox. Oh wow. Right? It was Fox. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. There's an opportunity. The last the last run was pretty aggressive almost the entire time it got it got really aggressive there maybe with 30 to go um i don't know what were you still

you're going you're going around oh yeah yeah i was still running around i was riding around 30th having a wall clinton's like are you awake i'm like nope i just stopped talking there was a lot of it's just different now like with that package you can't you can't block but you can't block two lanes you can't block everything and at some points we had um it's got to pick the lane you think's going to prevail eventually and The bottom finally came back in there. It's been a long time since the bottom really, really worked, and it really, really worked all day yesterday.

But here's the thing. Guess what they gave us? Gave us more horsepower. More horsepower always makes for a better race, in my opinion. Yeah, we... 100 more horsepower than we've had. At the end, when they would catch us when we were leading, trying to manipulate both lanes,

we would give up the bottom strictly because we wanted to be able to get to the guy's quarter panel and door and stuff. When you're on the bottom, You're at the guy's mercy on the outside a lot more than... And it's always been that way, not always, but we all started protecting that right rear when that bubble came and all that stuff. But yesterday, the bottom could take the lead.

And that's why you didn't see that guy get out front and manage it. I mean, I thought TJ lost the race with the best car yesterday. And I'm not taking a shot at TJ at all, but I think if we were in last year's rules package, he doesn't lose that race. And it's because guys on the bottom could make runs and get clear and take the lead. And it was a completely different problem.

than what we've seen in a while. Yeah, we couldn't. Before, like, blocking Kurt right there at the end, that push would have pushed us out in front. We would have been able to come down with ease, almost, in front of chase. Right now, the difference is now is when you pop the bubble, the guy's able to stay there more,

and you're able to create another, a second run off that same. When you're in the bubble, you're able to create numerous runs until you get out of it. And Kurt was able to stay right there. He didn't hit us. Right. He got right to us and stayed right there

because he knew he could try to make another move, move. If he would have run up there and hit us a little bit, we could have came, we could have got down there and probably in front of chase, but you can't, you can't block two lanes right now. You can't do it. They're coming. They're just too fast. I'll tell you what's cool, though, and obviously plate racing in general creates this opportunity, but to see guys like David Reagan up there. He had a couple chances to really take the lead and it was like the dog that caught the car. He was like, oh, I've got up here and I don't know if I want to try to lead or if I just want to be fine running second, you know, or being second in line on the top or

the bottom of Dibendetto was up there. Ty Dillon with a state. win man if you'd have had a Vegas bet well Ty Dillon wins two stages this year I mean I bet it would have paid yeah I mean look at the end I mean everybody would have said no the guy won at Bristol guy wanted Talladega like good for him you had the 47 and eight in the top five yeah at the end but I mean that's because of you know obviously because of the teamwork they all committed to the the Chevy's committed to each other here's my question Tj and obviously we're going to give inside info here like Chevrolet had a meeting at 930 on Sunday morning and they

basically gave the Chevrolet orders. And that's why you saw all those guys pit together and do the things they did. Last year, we had a Ford meeting. This year? We didn't have a Ford meeting. I was going to ask that because I don't know if you paid attention to Twitter. A lot of people were talking about how there were some opportunities for guys to make moves against another driver that was the same manufacturer. And they didn't.

They didn't take as many risks if they were racing against the same manufacturer. It's hard to say that, though, Casey, because you don't always know exactly what the situation they're in. And it's real easy to sit back and go, oh, that guy should have done this, that guy should have done that. Like, it's not the way we think and it's not the way the drivers think. And there's a bigger picture sometimes. And if you're coming to the end of a stage, I'm telling you right now, all bets are off. If you're coming to end the race, all bets are off. So don't think that that manufacturer alliance changes the outcomes of stages or the end of the race because it's not true.

But I was just really surprised that TJ and I and the other Ford spotters and drivers, didn't all sit down together and we get the hey play x y and z today like you did last time because in the fall we freaking dominated that race and look Chevrolet was 0 for nine they needed to win so if anybody's going to win a race i guess chase elli's the the guy we'd won out of that bowtie camp maybe i guess all right spot off spot on spot off spot on spot on spot on spot off you like it Spot off, you don't like it, and you say why either way. First topic, Talladega's increased downforce package and spoiler wicker. How about Brett, spot on, spot off?

I was spot on for the first practice that we ran because I feel like you could really get those large runs and then continue the run to finish the run. I feel like the second practice, which we ultimately ended up racing with, you still got the huge run, but the stall factor was a little bit quicker. So I think overall, just the package itself, spot on. But if he'd let me pick which practice I wanted to go off of, I would have picked the first one. I'm spot on. I thought it was a fun race.

It was a lot of work. You know, talking to Joey afterwards and stuff. He said he was having handling issues. He was having – he was loose. He said he was spinning the tires off the corner, loose sometimes. And that's something we haven't heard of at Talladega before in a long time. Because your car was that fast. My guy didn't say that.

you're wrecked though you know guys were fighting loose issues up off the corner I saw a lot of things that guys were fighting the cars and you were also you could get runs you can make moves so how many times you changed tires yesterday uh two or three yeah out of a hundred and eighty eight laps

yeah I mean we what how many times you get four we only took fuel only one time and that was a green flag stop two tires every other time uh no No. We took four and we took two once. Okay. No caution threw an at time for Stenhouse's wreck during the White Flag. Carson, your driver, what did you think about that?

About the second one or the first one? The Stenhouse, Red. Would have been the first one. I mean, I would have been upset. Like, it was a little bit confusing because, like, that overtime line and everything really confuses me sometimes just because, like, I don't know. Sometimes I feel like they're consistent with it and sometimes they're not. But I was surprised that they'd,

that they didn't throw it immediately. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought of it from more like a safety perspective, like you said, yeah. He was wrecked. He was stopped and he was in an area where the cars were going to be very close when they came back around to finish the race. And if they wreck, man, he's a sitting duck and you don't know if he's trying to get out of his car because his car may be on fire. He may see smoke or something that we don't see from the, you know, the roof. I was surprised they waited as long as they did. And I guess I guess they waited to the point to where they had to be.

We had the big wreck down the backstretch. But the thing was, too, think about how many times there's wrecks coming to the checker at a super speedway. I mean, that's so, like, that happens all the time. All the time. You think that if Stenhouse was in an area where he could be impacted or could almost cause a wreck, if somebody were to see him off to the side, I don't know. I just thought that it's more of a safety thing than anything else. Yeah.

I mean, I think they were to throw in the caution before we got back around. I think they were trying to let the guys race as far as, we could. I think I read maybe on Twitter that they said they were making sure he wasn't going to start driving again, taking off. I think if they would have saw the window net come down, but ultimately there was a bunch of debris on the track that I think they saw. He threw debris everywhere. So I think they were going to throw the caution, but you know, you want to get as much of the race in as you can. I mean, you want a race when you, you know, I don't, they didn't, they didn't not they threw it too late. So as long as you throw it before you get through off of four there.

honestly in my opinion. I guess that's true. Like it's in, I mean, if they don't say, if they throw the caution and for some crazy reason, he gets it fired up a moose again, we just ruined a race back to the line, cheated the fans out of a race back to the line. There's so many moving pieces at that point in time. You don't want to jump the gun. I think when you see the wreck off of two, the caution comes out immediately, which is what happened. As soon as you see something like that happened, you know. Jeffrey Earnhardt hit as hard as I've seen anybody hit in a very, very, very long time. And I didn't really know it, obviously.

You know, you saw the crash start. But you can't, we can't see that inside wall very well because the angle that we're at. Only when they get back up in the air. Went back and saw that replay. And I was like, man. Yeah, it was crazy. I wonder if he's sore today. Made you hurt watching it.

It did. Yeah, made you hurt. You know, I would think he's a little sore today. But I don't think NASCAR missed any calls here. Yeah, I mean, that's a good point. They didn't have a chance to throw the cause from Ricky's wreck. Because if he takes off right there, and I don't think. Ricky's wreck was was like okay wow we need to get something there like you never know though but

yeah um if he drops the window in there or something then we have a wreck coming to the start finish line that'd be bad but I don't think we were going to get to that point I saw enough pieces fly up in the air yeah when he hit that I we knew there was to breathe there we knew there was going to be a caution we just weren't sure when they were going to throw it and that's hard on us too because you don't know we're trying to now hurry up everything that we're telling the drivers um not that they're not already trying to go but they don't know necessarily that Ricky's wrecked Like it's, that's where it's like, uh-oh. I'm surprised at Bowman not making a move.

I was just about to say, I wonder if his father had mentioned, like, there's going to be a caution coming soon. Like, you might want to make a move, although it's another Chevy driver, Hendrik. When you have a car sitting on the apron, not far off the racetrack at the start, finish line, the caution is going to come out. So, I mean, there was enough Chevys up there that one of the Chevys was going to win. I'm probably making a move myself. But anyway. You always try to win the race. If Bowman did not try to, if he, if it wasn't in his mind that he, that he,

needed to try to win that race, he wouldn't be in a cup car. Like, there's not a, surely to God he knew he had to try to win that race, right? No, for sure. Kevin Harvick's comments after his lap 12 crash. You want to read that, Jason? There are lots of people that are way above their head, and I think that obviously proved it. And then he said to Bubba can't push. Spot on, spot off. T.J. I mean Spot off kind of Because I don't feel like

Bubble was trying to push Bubble was trying to make a move And got blocked And that's when the car got out of control A little bit and he wrecked So That wasn't the only wreck that almost happened There was wrecks that

That looked just like that that didn't happen That very easily could have happened I almost had one We almost had one like that ourselves But luckily we didn't wreck I don't know I don't know It just things lined up right

Bubba got out of control and I feel like Bubba had position where he was going and got forced a little bit and they hit a little bit and then he just kind of lost control. A couple laps before that, he and Denny Hamling came through the trial. And Bubba made kind of a late block. He kind of faded one way and then realized he had screwed up and he came back in and then he had Bubba jacked up and I thought we were wrecking then. That was on lap 9. On lap 11 is when this big wreck happened.

And this is really a case of Bubba trying not to wreck his buddy, you know, and I think maybe he even said that in his interview. from a friend. I didn't see her hear myself. He's the last person he'd want to try and wreck. Like, he wasn't intentionally doing anything. I think Bumba did more there to not create a wreck than, I mean, he very easily could have turned the 12.

Yeah, right there. Well, he missed him and he wrecked me. So spot on for whatever makes that, me pissed off about it because it was, for 177 laps, I just stood there. I saw you a few times. I hope I looked like I was having fun. Yeah, you did. If we did DNF, I was just going to start drinking beer right then.

Because I couldn't go to the airport. I couldn't leave the other spotter that was right in. The race was great. You could have just watched it with a beer. I went down there with the fans, took my shirt off. Swung it around a little bit. Yeah, that's what's up. Maybe got some beads.

Yeah. Talladega beads. Those things are like gold down there. You probably have quite a few over the years. This is off topic a little bit, but I really want to go to that infield party that they have. Yes. The one where they're like, I've been there. few times.

Yep. I'm not supporting that. That's when I went to, I stayed on Clint's bus and I woke up and my, I had on a brand new cool camo pants. Not like you would hunt in like cool pants, like cargo pants or something. Cool. Those are cool pants. And they were cut all to hell.

Like, I don't know what happened in those pants. Yeah. You wore camo pants? They were still on me. Cammo cargo pants. Well, listen, these things were cool, all right? Were they? And they were brand new.

They were like 80 bucks. What year was this? That makes it because I don't know of any time this would be cool. This was about seven years. ago. And there's a lot stuff that's cool in Talladega that's not cool. That's true. That is true. It's festive, all right? So they were my pants were just shredded. I don't know what happened. Moonshine was definitely involved. The only time. And that's probably why you don't know what happened. On Saturdays, if you don't have a car in the other series, you know, like an Xfinity car,

and that particular weekend, I didn't have a truck or Xfinity car or whatever was going on. Like on Saturdays, you literally don't work because you do practice on Friday. All they do for Cup is qualified. But Spiders don't spot. The Big Spinnity guys are out there too. So, oh, yeah. I mean, of course they were. I will say, I've done it where you, like, go in the crowd. You just did something with your hand. I thought you were getting ready to be like.

Did you see that? I've been there. No, I've seen that, too. Nope, but not that. I've done it where, like, I'm in the crowd, but then I had to be on stage for it. And I will say it is way better on stage because there are some people that will come up to you and talk to you. It's like the spotter's saying you can look down over everybody. Yes.

Yeah. The view is. way more interesting. Sorry, I got us off topic. No, it was funny. It was good. Go and party. Get an RV.

No. Don't. Don't do it. No. Get an RV. I'll chaperone. Get in our RV. Okay.

And that's where everything goes south. Kelly would be on board for sure. We're going to get an RV on Talladega Boulevard. Spots are about 500 bucks. No, we're not. That's not bad. We'll get a sponsor. No.

We'll get a sponsor. We know rich people. Yeah. Okay. We know mega rich people. Yeah. So we go, we go get this RV spot. We park it, right?

We can either get a school bus or we can get RV or whatever. It doesn't matter. And for three days we're just going to party. All right. Yeah. Okay. No. I'm in.

No. Yeah. Not happening. Wait. We run Talladegan now and then in the fall. No, we're done this year. We're already done racing this year. It's like Halloween.

No. Yeah. Oh yeah. Because I used to do all the, I used to do the trick-or-treating. Yeah. We're done to go in MRO. But instead of trick-or-treating now, go to Talladega Boulevard. Yes.

You ever race that weekend? No, I don't. It's so fun. Like, TJ's trying to be so proper. I have daughters. My mom's not listening. I'm telling her. Do it.

It's funny how Brett has daughters, too. I do have daughters, and I'm not going to let them go to Talladega party. Exactly. You'll encourage other people's daughters to go. Yeah, basically. I've known her person since she was pretty young, and no. Not happening. We just won't tell TJ.

Deal. He's not. TJ used to be fun. I don't know. I did. He went to the NFL draft in Nashville. Yeah. This week.

Didn't even spend the night. We couldn't. Yes, you could. You could have got up early the next morning. He's the only guy I know that would drive all the way to Nashville for an NFL draft, which essentially isn't a reason of a party. Yeah, we drove from here. Yeah.

To Nashville. Me, Kevin Hamlin, Eddie to Hunt, Josh Williams, and Coleman Presley, and Steve Barkdale. Six spotters drive to Nashville for the draft. Nashville was amazing, too. I've never been out now. It sounds like the start of what could be a fun. The Black Party, six spotters drive to Nashville. That's my point.

And then go back home. I was like, what a bunch of weirdos? If you're going to be in Nashville, I feel like you have to do something. No, a couple guys had to be there for an archipat. Who cares? Like 8 o'clock the next morning. So leave it four. No.

Why? No. Stay out till midnight, leave a four. No. You'd be sobered up. There was skirts all up in their eyes. They couldn't see the draft party. No, there were so many people there.

Like, we had a great spot and everything, but Nashville looked all. Awesome. But gosh, man, there were so many people there. Did you see the tweet you're going to read it about the bachelor's party? Oh, they were mad. People were mad. That is so funny. Yeah. I love that. Did you see they were trying to find them all and let them do like take them over to the deal? Let them all do like 40 yard dash competitions and stuff. Oh, no, I didn't see that. That would be great. I feel like it is your job as the person that is planning the bachelor's party to know what is happening in the city that you're going. One of them going. They have seen that hotel prices were more expensive. Yeah, because everything should. Yeah. So the one of them said the guy knew and didn't tell his fiance. He went there with a bunch of guys, too,

and they were all going to go to the draft stuff. Well, they went to their Bachelorette party or something. So what a cool dude. I wouldn't marry him. Nashville's the best. Anyway, what Tyler Reddick say? So you go, how are you going to White House tomorrow? Yeah, well, yeah.

Is that in here? No, is it? No, it's not. Oh, are you excited? So are you going to, man, Trump's a big dude. Have you ever met him? No, I have not. He's big.

He's big. Like he's twice as tall as you are. Oh, tall. Okay. You're going to mess with him by his hair? No, probably not. You're going to ask him for his hair tips? No, I'm probably not.

I'm not going to ask anything about. I was going to say, ask me if he gets spray tans. Yeah, his tanning secrets are definitely a must. Yeah. I'm not going to probably. Ask not something political like the wall. No. Tell him.

No. Yeah, that's an idea. Hey, do you want to listen to the podcast? Yeah. Hey, I'm sure he listens to the podcast. I'm sure he does. Yeah. We're going to have him all.

That's a great idea. That's a great idea. And y'all should invite me for that. Yeah, we should have the president here. you can take him to Talladega in the fall. Oh yeah, we can take him to Talladega on our party bus. On our party bus. I'm sure he would love that.

You know what we'll get? We'll get a crooked Hillary blow-up dog. And put it on the top of a stripper pole. We are getting... Okay. Now it's getting bad. I told you, Carson's 18 now. It's over.

Not to be off topic, off topic, but I don't, I didn't see anywhere else in the show sheet here that Jason has. Kyle Bush. We know he's going to be in there. Ten top tens of a row, Jason. Why are we not talking about? Barstool Sports being there all weekend.

No, that was awesome. I thought that's really good. Did you see that? No. The guy from Barstool Sports was there all weekend. You know the guy that he tries to... I knew NASCAR had a partnership or something with him. He was there all weekend.

Well, they were doing stuff with Corey earlier this year. The pizza thing that they do? Yeah, and now, like, they're starting... I mean, Tally it's moving. Dude, he was in the infield and he rode in the rig coming down the front stretch and stuff. Oh, really? With Kevin Ray's dad? Yeah.

Dude, this guy did everything. And it was, he was having a blast. There's things that I wished that I didn't see that. that was on their feed. Yeah. But I'm sure he was enjoying it and checking it out. That's cool. And the crowd.

We have to invite him next year too. The crowd this weekend looked big. I was about to say for everybody that complained to us about talking about the crowd and the lack of crowd, it was great this weekend. So no negative feedback. So this is what happens when you have 85 degree weather, 80 degree weather, no rain in the forecast, really, nothing. Just a fun weekend. Get three, four races in, and it's a good time.

Coolest part about where we spot from. is we are literally right there on top of the fans. And where we stand, we see the same fans come back and sit in those seats every single year because they know they have the best vantage point, arguably at any racetrack around the circuit, and they're at the best race, arguably, that they're going to see all year.

So Talladega's always been supported. It's been good, yeah. They've made a lot of tracks have made strides to make it a better fan experience, but this track has always, I mean, they have college events where they bring out. I think that's the coolest thing that they do, like, that $30 package, like, for the college students where it's like a ticket, that party and everything. Like, if I was in college down there, that would be a no-brainer.

100%. Yeah, really cool. I agree. All right. Well, how about Tyler Redick? What was his comment, Jason? Tyler Reddick is the next big thing. Watch.

Brett said that on episode 125 earlier this season. Spot on. Spot on, spot off after his Xfinity win on Saturday? There's a lot of people that don't like his personality. He doesn't have one, really. But I'm telling you, as a driver, he can drive his ass off. And that's what he did on Saturday. And I'm telling you now, I mean, guys coming off championship at Homestead, nobody out drove him.

Nobody touched him. He obviously was in junior motorsports, well-prepared race car. But what he did for that race and how close he ran to the wall for those three hours, he went out and kicked their tails. and that's why I said the comment that I said, and that's why I'll spot on it is he is the next big thing. As far as a driver, not personality. But Larson doesn't have a big personality.

Yeah. I mean, I think Tyler did. You got a crush on Tyler Edict, don't you? Oh, gosh, no. He's ginger. Be nice. What? The guy that owns this place is a ginger.

Well, I like him. He's my uncle. I have to like him. Yeah, I'm not into ginger. Sorry. That's funny. You know, working being the first, I think I'm the first person to work with Tyler when he came into the NASCAR side of things at Brad's truck stuff and did an archer race for him at Daytona.

So I think I worked with Tyler for about two, three years. He was very green when he first started, like everyone kind of is. He came from dirt cars up the ladder pretty quickly. You know, Tyler was willing to learn, willing to learn, I mean, right from the beginning, never acted like he knew more than you, which a lot of people act like they do nowadays. Oh, yeah. That happens a lot from a spotter's point of view. They come in here and they already know more than you. Yeah, well, I've only been watching race cars 20 years.

Yeah, exactly. So Tyler was really, he was like a sponge. He came in, really never lost his cool in the car. Always very polite. Admitted when he messed up, you know, there was a time there where he was pretty down on himself for a little bit. But, you know, kept plugging away at it and became an Xfinity Series champion. Has maybe three, four truck wins. He's wanted some places that are hard to win at.

We've won at Daytona in the trucks with him. Dover. He's got a Dover one. It's a tough place to win at too. So, you know, Tyler, he's shown signs of getting to this point, then getting that Exfeeing Championship. Now he's comfortable in the cars. He's a veteran of the series.

He's competitive every week. He's showing that he's ready to get in a cup car. He's getting there. I think if he finishes this year out, I mean, I feel like... The cup cars are easier to drive right now than the Xfinity cars. I feel like if he finishes this year out, he's done his time. Ross-Sahain, obviously, runs all three series every single weekend.

And the way that he describes Xfinity Series cars getting into the corner, sliding around, the braking and everything compared to the cup car. Like, there's no question that cup cars are easier to drive right now on Xfinity cars. So if Tyler can do what he's doing in Xfinity car, it tells me he's ready for a cup car. Do you think Chevy has the same issue Toyota does where they have drivers that they're ready to move up and, like, Tyler, but nowhere they go? Yeah, I mean, I think so. This is definitely a case that's forming like that. Toyota's had this problem for a while.

A while. I think Chevy. Look at all the names that Toyota has let go. Yeah. Bubba Wallace. Guy won four races, I think, the year that Kyle basically didn't renew his deal to bring in Eric Jones, right? William Byron. You know, Hendrick went and obviously took William from Toyota brought him here. Yeah. I mean, there's been several guys in that Toyota camp. Noah Glaxson. I was going to say Noah. Melagrexon. I mean, he's a Toyota guy, and he's doing extremely well. And once again, he's out. They've got a handful still that are going to be. And you got to do something with Christopher Bell. Christopher Bell has got to do something. You know?

Yeah, I don't. And I think this is the first case of Chevy having somebody right now that's actually looks like they're ready to go cup racing. Yeah. Should be interesting. SMI buying back stock and signs pointing to company going private. I don't know a lot about this. This is definitely more of Brett's area, so I'll just let Brett go ahead. I mean, I just think it tells us that something is changing rapidly in the economic climate of NASCAR, right? NASCAR is trying to buy, you know, all of their stockback, right, from ISC.

And now SMI is following suit. So it tells us, I mean, we read months ago, if not even a year ago, that NASCAR was for sale. And this tells us that that sale is probably more likely than not. and these two particular companies want to own the whole thing to make their values and their profits when this sale occurs be as high as they possibly can be. Because if you own the whole pie, you make the whole profit, right? So I think, man, with what ISC is doing with stock, what SMI is now doing with stock, it tells us NASCAR is more for sale than we probably thought it was. Doesn't this also give them more ability to move races? It does give them ability to move races.

that also puts them in the real estate business. You know what I mean? Because here's the thing, T.J. If you and I were billionaires and we were really smart, we would be able to go out and we would be able to create a company that could challenge NASCAR, right? Because ultimately NASCAR is just a sanctioning body.

They don't have a whole lot of other big assets outside of their TV contract, right? So if now they own racetracks and they own that real estate and they've got those hundreds of acres and all these places, I mean, look at Talladega, man. How many, how freaking big is that place? It's a lot of acres. 2.66 mile track on a huge acreed land right there off I-40. I mean, I-20. Like, it's worth a lot of

money. It's got to be 500 acres. If NASCAR's going to sell in, sell all that together, like, holy cow. I mean, when I got here, they said NASCAR was worth $20 billion. And that was 20 years ago. So I don't know. And that's not considering them holding all these other things either, right? So, man, I don't know their numbers. I don't know their business well enough to speak very educationally about it. But it just tells me that something's happening. Well, to me, this is a sign of change as far as like because we've already heard the rumors about the the schedule's changing next year but then it's rumored to have even more changes a year after that you know you know I don't know if we're going to have start earlier and earlier I've heard things like that as everybody else

middle of the week races some of them something like that maybe yeah who knows we've we've talked about doing that before on the show and maybe there's something to it but the stuff we've been seeing I think leads to signs of that type of stuff so I'll find out. It's true. As we head into the break, the junior mother sports family lost a very special member

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All right, first topic, Clint Boyer said on the Dale Jr. download that NASCAR needs to figure out how to have some cautions and how these cars can crash every now and then. Do you agree or disagree? And it's going to be Brett and Carson. on this one. Why is it Brett Carson? Where'd TJ go? He had to babysit. He changes their time, then leaves early to go babysit. So Clint Boyer said that we need to crash. How do you feel about that one, Brett? Just maybe suck at your job more and... No. Clint Boyer is saying the cars are too

easy to drive and that the cars don't wreck. And it's been just steady coming that way for 10 years. this downforce that we keep putting in these cars, keeps making them easier to drive. But for a driver to publicly say that, like, that takes some balls because he's saying, I want to crash more on my own. He's not saying he wants to be in a crash at Talladega, but for him to say this,

like he's putting a lot of pressure on somebody to make these cars different than what they are, in my opinion. Well, I thought I had a good answer, but then Brett just made me look at it from a whole different, like, perspective. What was your answer? Like, I just thought, like, I think that people get so, like, they want this different about NASCAR and they want this different about the cars and they want a more entertainment factor and they want people to wreck and everything. But I just think that the more that you fabricate it to more towards the fans and it being entertaining for them that I think it loses that raw, like, sport aspect of it. I think the more you turn it into like a Hollywood production, the less it's a sport, I guess, and more like nitty gritty for the drivers.

Scripted. thousand percent agree with you that you too though but i i think what clint is saying is um we aren't wrecking right we aren't entertaining yeah and these cars are too easy to drive and if we do those things i mean look we can't script a wreck right right and and um it just isn't the way it is so i think if if i don't man for me i have to agree with clint but i just find it ironic that a driver has the balls to publicly say but if anyone would have the balls to say it'd be clint it'd be clint yeah Mexico's government said recently it wants a NASCAR race, not an F-1 race. Should NASCAR race in Mexico or outside the U.S. in general?

Hell yeah. Well, we know that one. I agree with that. I want, I think that I would go. I would go to that. If you could go to Mexico and make a whole fun vacation weekend out of it. Can we make it in like Cabo or something? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Sign me up. So I had the privilege, I guess. Not really. To go to Mexico City the first year we raced there, and it was a horrendous experience. However, the fans were the most amazing fans of any racing I've ever been around. I think the guy's name was Adrian Fernandez, and when he walked out on Pit Road, they almost tore the grandstands down. They were waving flags and doing chance. I've never seen a fan base that excited.

We need to race in Mexico. We need to race in Canada. There's no reason why we shouldn't be in those markets with our Cup premiere series. But don't take me back to Mexico City, please. Yes, take me to Cabo. Yes, take me to Cancun. Build a racetrack anywhere you want. But I don't want to go Tijuana, and I don't want to go to Mexico City.

Because I've been to both those places. There's nothing great about it. I'm pretty sure when you go to Mexico, you're not supposed to leave the resort in some certain areas. I made that mistake. Well, yes, I agree. I wonder why they wouldn't want F1, though. I mean, I watched the F1 race yesterday. I think that's the coolest.

That was so cool. I think that's the coolest thing about F1 is, like, going to Monaco is on my bucket, Like those are cool places that you don't just go watch a race and like whatever. Like you get to make a hole and it's a it's somewhere that you can't just go normally. So I think that would be cool. Mexico City, this is true. Okay. We all get on a charter plane and we fly it and we all get on a chartered bus and they take us to our hotel.

They tell us, do not leave the hotel. Then they take us to the track on that same bus and they tell us do not leave the track. Did you listen to them? Then they take us. Hell yeah, listen to them. because I have stories that I can't tell you on this show of people who didn't listen, and they got serious. Then they put us back on the bus, took us back to the hotel,

and for two days, that's all we did. It's got bused to the hotel, bused to the track. But the fans were, I'm telling you, the best and most excited race fans I have ever seen of anywhere I've been. And so when I watched Daniel Suarez right around right out here, and those guys that came to the Texas race, I think, like, man, that's awesome. Because they don't get to date. There's no NASCAR races in Mexico.

They don't get to see that kind of stuff. So when they do, they're like, they don't take it for granted. They think it's awesome. I would love to see us go down that race, but just take us to the right places. Stay out of the drug wars. Dover celebrates its 50th anniversary this weekend. What has been your favorite Dover memory? Carson.

I've only been to Dover one time in person. And I'm not old enough to go in the casino or any of that fun stuff. You got that ID. I don't think that would work in a casino. I don't know, man. I've never been except one time, and so I don't know. Dover has not been very kind to my career. I never want to race there.

I think it's an awesome racetrack, though. You almost won the one last year. I've been super close to winning a lot of times there, but just haven't come around. I mean, when you look at, I mean, It seems like you had to be Jimmy Johnson, Kyle Busch, or Matt Kenseth forever to win a race there. And now it's like you've got to be Kyle Larson or one of those guys to win a race there. So I don't know.

I mean, favorite Dover memory? Probably me helping Elliott wreck early in the race. And we were eight laps down and enough people wrecked later that we still finished 16th. So I wasn't in as big of a dog house as I was originally going to be. Solid. I didn't say inside quick enough there one time. Was that that big wreck in like 2007? Shut up, Jason.

I don't need you pinpointing it for YouTube purposes for these lists. Everyone go search. There might have been a point. I might have missed an inside one time or maybe set it a little late. See, it's harder than y'all think it is. Well, Clint wants to wreck more, so just make it happen. Well, he doesn't mean that way. He doesn't want to get me fired.

Off the wall question. With the Kentucky Derby this Saturday, if you owned a horse and entered it into a race, what would you name the horse? Examples, Omaha Beach, the roadster. Wow, these are interesting names. These are some that are actually racing this weekend. Y'all go first. Oh, gosh.

I've been to the Kentucky Derby, fun fact. I wore my big hat. I don't know, man. I bet on the horse that won, too. You did? Well, I didn't bet legally. My mom did. I just picked it.

I don't know, you go. She gave you the money? Yeah. Well, she did it. I just told her which one to pick. because I was like eight so I couldn't gamble. Just pick the one that had to do this name. I think I would name my horse, my lips.

Interesting. Why? I don't know. I think that's a cool name. My lips? Of all things, that's what you thought of? Yeah, I think that's original. Oh, gosh.

Well, I don't know. That's a hard question. Yeah. Your brain would be the one to come up with something stupid like that. Jason, who you got? What do you think? I should have thought it was beforehand. We could do a Dirty Moe horse.

That would be a cool name. Dirty Mo wins Kentucky Derby. Dirty Moe. Come on, Dirty Mo. Come on, Dirty Mo. I think I could get Mike Davis on some branding about that. Yeah. Sponsorship, if you're willing to pay.

Where do people come up with these names there on this show sheet? These are actual ones in the race this year. I have no idea. Master Fincer? What? I don't know. I just feel bad for these horses that have these names. I'd name my Brett Griffin.

These people are, come on, Brett Griffin. That'd be a bad horse. Oh, man. These people are really rich. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, they're a whole different kind of rich. Yeah.

American Farrell was cool when it won the Triple Crown a couple years ago. That was a cool name. Come on, American Farrell. Farrow. Pharaoh. Come on, American Pharaoh. When is it Kentucky Derby? Saturday.

Oh, wow. So the casino in Dover should be pretty packed. Yeah. Awesome. I don't have an Xfinity car this weekend. All I'm doing is a cup car because I got to... Oh my God. I almost just asked where the Kentucky Derby is. Well, Carson, that would have been hilarious.

Maybe you should be in college. And not only have you been, it says it's in Kentucky. Well, she said Dover, so I was like, wait, what? I just said something casino should be credited. Oh, my gosh. Well, all right, ask DBC. And just a reminder for everybody, keep submitting questions. I thought there were some good ones this week.

This one is from Horgan on the horn. When you're in the middle of the chaos, how hard is it to keep your voice level steady so you can best help your driver? Are there particular things that you're looking for to help him avoid any trouble? I mean, I've only got one voice, so that's the one I use. I mean, I think this guy's trying to say, how do we not sound excited? I mean, I don't think I ever really sound excited unless they really start wrecking, And then I think you have to sound excited to let the driver know. Something has changed.

You need to listen to me more than just to navigate traffic. And I either started with spin in front of you or spin behind you. But, you know, what are we looking for? We're looking for that four wide that you saw yesterday at Talladega. We're looking for that five wide in terms of looking for crashes. And then when we're looking at traffic, we're looking at various things that just give us an opportunity to tell the driver something that he's not aware of. If we're telling him what he sees, then we're not helping him. If we're telling him something he can't see, then we're an aide and we're actually doing our job.

So there's no reason in us reinforcing everything that he can already see and know on his own. I mean, when Jamie McMurray and some other guys have made changes over the years in spotters, it's because they felt like information needed to be communicated differently to them. And I mean, that's ultimately what we're paid to do. But from a voice standpoint, man, like, I mean, you know, you play like a third cheerleader, a third Dr. Phil and a third spotter. So, I mean, you just got to pick when it's time to be what on there, right? I mean, Clint, you got to, I mean, Clint and I are really good friends, obviously.

So it's, our radio chatter is probably a lot different than a spotter and driver that don't really hang out a lot, you know what I mean? So, I mean, if we were on our party bus in the fall that Carson and I are going on. We should invite Clint to that too? Like, on Sunday morning, like Clint with Kia and be like, what did you do Carson do last night? Do y'all have fun? Do y'all have fun any beers? Like, I mean, he and I talk differently than everybody else talks on the radio.

So basically for everybody who gets a scanner at the race track list and the Brett. Well, I'm not saying that. You guys are always on radioactive. Always. Always. I love it. Well, this week, we're definitely going to be on it because he lost his mind yesterday. Oh, I can't wait.

Worse than ever. I mean, he cussed for. Like he went full Kurt Bush lost his mind? 45 straight seconds, yes. Well. I should. And I forget about this. Like, if I key up when he's losing his mind, it makes it sound like Charlie Brown's

school teacher so nobody knows what he's saying. But I'm not smart enough to key up because I'm so entertained by him losing his mind that I'm like, oh, here we go. This is going to be great. And so I let him do it. And after he gets done, I'm like, I should have stopped that. But it's too late. For entertainment purposes.

There's always this week. Please don't. Once again, though, when he keys up, I'm like, I got to know what he's going to say right here. Yeah, you don't want to cut it off. But there's certain points where it's like, he'll just talk. No, he goes. He lost his mind yesterday. Hmm.

Next one from Amber Bitten, Bighton, maybe. If both of you got a chance to race at Dago, which past or present driver would you pick to be your spotter? And T.J. is not here. Carson, who are you picking to be your spotter? Okay, I would pick. I would pick someone with an accent. So, like, Daniel Swarres, because I could listen to his accent. That's what I would want.

But you can't. What? I would want to listen to their accent. Yeah. But you have to know what he's saying. But if he's speaking English with his accent. She didn't say he had to speak. Spanish.

Yeah. Like, people that speak Spanish just have an accent when they speak their English, you know? I wonder how you say inside in Spanish. Come on, so do you say inside? The spider that only spoke Spanish. That would be fun to listen to it. That would be if I knew Spanish. Has there ever been, like, someone Australian?

I wouldn't mind listening. Yeah, Ambrose, Marcus Ambrose. Okay. Yeah, I wouldn't. I just want somebody with accent, so at least I get, like, when they're talking, I could be interested. I would hands down pick Clint. Yeah, I could see that. Look, get this stupid.

I. Up here, like, I could just... Oh, I could just... But he can't get... Like, what if he gets his rights and his lefts are on? No, I don't care about that. I'm like, Carson, I want to be entertained. And if I got Clint, he's like, you ain't, watch out for this idiot behind you.

I'm like... Yeah. He would be awesome, yeah. I think that'd be a good thing. Because, I mean, he and are both pretty unfiltered guys. And I don't want some guy that's going to be like, T.J. Inside. I have an idea for...

If we ever do a live show... Because the car coming up from behind. He's on your bumper. I can't, no, I want some of my fun. Yeah, Clint would be fun. If we do a live show, can we please have, like, Joey spot for TJ and Clint spot for you in, like, something that you guys are doing? Yeah, there you go.

Can we do this? If we do a live show on the time soon. And you're going to see personality. Oh, like blindfold, like, you can blindfold them and they have to make a sandwich or something. Yeah, like, they have to spot for you. Did you ever have a crush on Joey Lagana? No.

Actually, that's a lie. So when I did those pit road interviews When I was like 12 for Fox or whatever It just came up on my time hop I posted a picture of me interviewing Joey And I said something about like You know how like Man Candy Monday used to be a thing I was like hashtag MCM

I was like gorgeous Like I don't even know I was like 12 okay let me let me be I'm gonna let you be Because there's nothing sexy Because I've grown as a person I've grown as a person since I was 12 I like Joey Lugano

I'm not against him but there's nothing sexy about him. Well, I agree, but I just, I was 12, so. Who's a sexy driver right now, Casey, other than Chad Boat? Chase Elliott. Yeah, Chase. Chase is hot. Who else is hot?

I will admit. Blaney. Blaney's hot. I was about to say I always thought Planey was hot. Yeah. Casey Kane, obviously, but he's already having more. Did you know how MC'd his retirement party over the winter? What?

I emceed Casey Kane's retirement party over the winter. Yeah. You should have told me you wanted to come. I didn't get invited. I don't know who else is pretty cute. We had it at a boatyard eats. I think Kyle Larson's cute. Yeah, Kyle.

Yeah. Kyle Larson's hot, really? I said cute. Cute. Not like hot. Somebody thought they posted the picture. Somebody posted the picture of Kyle and Caitlin's wedding. And some race fan tagged Chad and was like, congrats Chad.

And I was like, I'm not blonde. So we didn't get married yet. But I think Ricky's not bad looking either. Yeah. Ricky, oh yeah, Ricky is cute. Ricky's cute. There's some cute guys in NASCAR. Yeah.

Sorry, Chad. Willie Bee, Willie B is cute. Yeah, but he's like, he's like adorable, cute. Like, you know. Yeah, like teddy bear cute. Yeah. Yeah. I used to think Dinosaurus was cute too.

Yeah. Used to. What happened? He looks the same. I mean, he does, but I don't know. Taste change. I don't know. This is probably why Chad jokes and thinks that.

That's why you talked about building that wall earlier, isn't? I used to have. No, that was just because it's on, it's a contrary. is here right now. I'm kidding. I was just about to say this is probably why Chad jokes with me and it asks if I take my wedding ring off at the racetrack. I don't take my wedding ring off at the race track guys. I used to have a huge crush on Austin Dillon. I'm just going to go ahead and put that out there. You did? Again, when I was like 12. Okay. Why was that? What did you? I don't know. I just, is a cowboy hat that he wears? We had the same number. If you wear a cowboy hat to me, you have to own a horse. Like, how can you wear a

cowboy hat and I don't know. I feel like that. That's a fraud. You're not a cowboy. No. You're a wannabe cowboy. Cowboys have to own horses. Yes. And ride horses. Yes. Or like bulls or something. Yeah. Now you can wear cowboy boots and I'll be all right with it, you know, because that's kind of a boot thing. Well, but a cowboy, when you put on a cowboy hat, I don't own one because I own a horse. I think that's, I think you're right. I think it's a fraud. Now I can't stop thinking about drivers who are cute. I know. I'm trying to go through my head with them all right now. Which one of them is not There's a lot of Xfinity drivers that are cute, and they're more of my age. That's because they're close to your age.

That's why don't you think that. Yeah. Who you got, Carson? Who? Who is it? Noah's cute. Is he? Yeah.

Who else? He tries to kiss girls who you don't know either, so. Y'all's personality would probably go well together. Y'all are both outgoing people. Yeah. Who else? I don't know. All those little boys are cute.

You're probably taller than most of them. Yeah, maybe. There's a chance. For a while, there last. year. I was taller than most of our drivers because Tyler was short, Justin's short. Yeah. Like our average team height was about 5'3. Ready? I'm ready. Still your show.

Just making sure we got through all the drivers. How about my car? Oh my gosh. And never mind. Can't say never mind. No, actually I can. My cousin, Shelley, or my mom's cousin, Shelley, she works. That's your cousin, too, then. Okay, so my second cousin? It's still your cousin.

Okay, my cousin somehow. No. So she works at like a wig place, you know, and it's the place where Mike Harmon gets his toupee done or whatever it is. His hair isn't real? Stop it. I thought I texted you and told you this. No.

I'm excited. So I should go get the same toupee Mike gets. Yeah, I'll find out the name of the place and let you know. Or just go like this. I had no idea that his mullet wasn't real. I mean, it might be, I don't know. I know he goes in there and gets his. I wonder what his weight loss secrets are.

We should make it a special on the show. Find those out, let me know. If we get those along with a wig, like we can totally be him for Halloween. Oh, yeah. You could do it. Yeah. Last one, BP 207. What has been the best advice given to you about racing and who gave it to you?

Carson, this is a great question for you. Yeah, this one came in my. mentions and I was like oh I hope they don't ask this because I don't know the answer um best advice given me about racing um I think like I say my best advice probably this is this is like really a stretch probably but like so with this midget racing like it's it's been really challenging you know like I I started at chili bowl this year and I thought we were off to a great start and everything and then like Florida we were good and kokemo I just I don't know I feel like I'm most like back where I started with like just I feel like I'm not as comfortable in it probably

had something to do with the coin and everything just you know that shook me up. Well it's scary. Yeah. And so I think like really lately I've been super down on myself just about everything and I'm just like worried if what's going to work out and what's not. So someone that I always love to talk to about things like that and has helped me a lot in the midget is Kevin Thomas Jr. He he he he, he, it's mainly like.

Like, I'm so concerned with, like, wanting to get better faster, and I don't always look at the big picture and think, okay, this takes a long time. Like, you can't go win your first race always, and you can't, like, just be super good overnight. Nothing happens overnight. So I think I probably get the best advice from KTJ and just about, you know, he tells me, you know, it took me this long to win a USAC race. And, yeah, I just think. It's a craft. Yeah. People don't realize that.

Like, you don't just get in those cars and go fast. It's a craft you have to develop. Right. And I feel like I've watched, like, you know, I grew up racing with Logan Civia with my dad in California and to see how fast Logan has progressed and gotten and winning USAC championships and everything. I've always been around people that were just great without having to, like, I feel like I have to try really hard. And I feel like I've been around people that are just great without really even having to, like, they were just blessed with it, you know. And so like I've grown up watching people like that.

And I'm just like, why doesn't that happen to me, you know? And it doesn't happen like that. for everybody. So I would say that's probably, I get my best advice from him. I think you just said what rings in my ears is the advice that Eddie Wood gave me when I started with Wood Brothers back in 1999. And we had a situation that was a struggle. And he said, if this was easy, everybody would do it. And when it comes to racing, nothing is easy. I love when people ask me, man, how did you get in racing? Well, I busted my ass. That's how I got in racing. Like, if you're having to ask me how to get into something, you're not going to figure out how to, if I wanted to be in the NFL, guess what I wouldn't do.

wouldn't ask anybody, how'd you get an NFL? I'm going to go and I'm going to bust my ass until I get an NFL. I'm obviously not going to go in as a player. But if I want to work in that industry, I'm going to go get it. So I think that Eddie's comment, and like you said, I mean, it's hard work. I think KT's told me that exact thing before. Like, he's literally said if this was easy that everybody would do it. And it's not.

It sounds so cliche, but it's so true. That's what it is. If it was easy to be a race car driver, there wouldn't only be 42 people racing in a cup breaks on Sunday. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Agree. Agree. What about TBC picks? Who did T.J. Picklesowski. Carson's got Keselowski for the... No, T.J. pick Keselowski. I know for the absent TJ. I thought you're saying I was picking. She's like, I wouldn't pick Kislausky.

Who would you pick, Carson? To win on that Dover? Out of those names in the red. T.J.'s never beat me in a season of this, so I'm kind of trying to let him have more of a chance this year and at least keep it close maybe till the end i'm gonna go out on the limb and i'm gonna say kurt bush is a great pick i'm gonna go with chase elliot because i'm sorry no i i think that this is one of his better tracks so back-to-back win why not he's only got it can win back-to-back races this week one there in the fall one there in the fall oh yeah yeah i forgot about that how about best driver at this track Jimmy J

well it's Jimmy Johnson but man they've been they've been struggling for the last probably three or four times that we've gone here I have to say the best driver at this track over the course of their career has been Kyle Bush however I'll have to say as up right now Kyle Larson if he doesn't turn his season around right now he won't make this playoff

I think this would be the place for him to do it though I agree and he's he's I mean obviously wrecked yesterday another opportunity to gain some points. Like he's going to have to almost at this point when to get in, and this is a place where he can turn around for sure. Bo Show. Movie review? This is some great music.

You watch Top Gun, right? Yeah. I used to sing Thunderstruck to myself before I qualified at Millbridge. That's awesome. Because it got me so pumped up. This is Jason's segment of this show. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Yeah, you're not allowed to talk.

I just wanted to tell you that. You can contribute if you've seen Top Gun. No, I just wanted to tell you that. Have you seen Top Gun? No. Okay. This is all Jason. I'm going to tell you why. It's super exciting. It's like dramatic.

These fighter pilots go to school and train all of stuff. Like I know what it is. I've never watched it. It's good. I would watch it. Like is that where Maverick and all that comes from? Yeah. They made me watch it. Goose. There was one scene where they're flying the enemy plane. They're flying their plane over the enemy plane upside down and like flip them off.

So that was pretty courageous and dangerous. And then they were flying by the control towers really fast and they like spilled coffee out. Like they made the control guy spill coffee. But I was really mad they killed Goose. I like Goose. He was a goofy, fun guy, and they just killed him. Oh. Ah, I forgot about that. Killed himself. He didn't know how to eject. Yeah, which was dramatic.

Should not have crashed his plane? I don't have to watch the movie now. So sorry, Carson. I forget about that part. Usually there's everyone in the room usually sees the movies. I know. Sorry, I ruined it. But the last fight scene was really epic. I was like, I like the Hawaii 5-O. It was one of my favorite shows, and it's like dramatic and cops and stuff.

So this one, this last scene made me think of that how dramatic the scene. was so it was good i liked it a lot yeah now give me another movie case you're not old though dirty dancing he's already seen it footloose i haven't seen that one how about how about field of dreams that's a 30 year old movie it's a baseball movie all right it has kevin costner in it i mean it's it's if you build it they will come angels in the outfield i love that movie yeah that's a good one watch field a dream okay sounds good i like baseball it'll be good yeah you'll like that one Carson thinks that really, she really likes you, we're ranting. So can you rant about something?

I'm not really mad about anything. I mean, I could rant about something. I just don't know what. I'm always down for a good rant. I'm just, I'm not on a subbox today. I just got a new phone because I dropped my phone yesterday. And then after I dropped it, I got water in it. And literally last night, it FaceTime Shanean Navarro at 1230.

It tweeted people. It emailed Alicia Lingerfeld, who I have not talked to in 10 years. Like if I open it up If I open it up right now It just starts doing its own thing Like somebody's like the ring app It'll just open up and show my front door So my phone literally went nuts, bananas

And so I went to the phone store this morning It took me forever to get it And then they handed it to me and they're like Okay it's going to take about an hour to update And I'm like hey bro Be somewhere He's like well And you're going to have to do it when you get there

So then that's why I came in here I freaked out about But I'm going to tell you something Man everybody in America has a cell phone and I go in the Verizon store and they were like, okay, you're fifth in line. I'm like, what are all these people doing in here? Doesn't everybody, are they breaking their phones too? Yep.

Yeah, because they want you to buy the new ones. It was freaking slammed in there. Nuts. Because you probably want at lunchtime. To be honest, they really, where'd you go? The Verizon store. The Verizon store 150. Yeah, they aren't always super helpful.

Last time I was in there, I got my Apple watch. And I was trying to connect it to my phone. And I was 17 and they would not help me because you had to be 18, apparently to get help in the Verizon store. No way. I'm like, are you fucking right now? But people who are like 10 have phones. Yeah, I'm like, okay, so what?

He's like, you're 18, I can't, or you're not 18, I can't help you. And I'm like, it's a phone store. Like, what kind of shit are y'all doing in here? I know. That's crazy. I just want my Apple. It's to work. I can totally believe that, though, because I was, I was not happy in that store either.

And then they're like, buy this bundle, buy this bundle, buy this bundle. Oh, yeah. They're like, for only $100,000 more, you can upgrade your phone to this. Yeah. I'm like, I don't need that. Well, I have to go to the store, so thanks for making me super excited. I hope you have an hour. I hope you have a better experience than we have.

Yes. And I'm telling you, I was there 20 minutes waiting to get help, 20 to 30 minutes of help. And then he said, okay, sit here for an hour while your phone updates. And I was like, bro, I ain't sitting here for an hour. I've been in here 15 minutes longer and I want to be in here anyway. So all you people out there that are going to the phone stores, find something else to do. Yeah. Don't break your phone.

Well, that's the only reason I went. This is the first phone I've ever broken. Really? Yeah, and I had a case on it and everything. I had a little privacy screen, you know, that makes it stronger. Do you have a privacy screen? I have like the temper glass, but the privacy screen, like, where you can't see it. If you're sitting, I don't have that.

Yeah, you should get that. What are you hiding from? I'm not hiding from anything. Here's what happened. I got on a plane. It was a commercial flight, and I sat behind Jeff Gordon. And I'm going to own this part of it. I was in first class.

All right. So was he. because obviously he ain't got right in the back. Obviously, yeah. So we're in first class. I'm sitting. He's got a window seat. I got an aisle seat. He leans a seat back, and he's on his phone, and he's typing. And I didn't read a word that he said or who he was texting.

But when I looked through and I saw his phone, I was like, I can literally see everything that Jeff Gordon is doing on his phone right now. If he were checking his checking account balance, I would have been able to see it. And I was like, man, this is not good. And we're all texting, obviously, people in this industry. things that other people don't need to see, whether it's industry-related stuff. I mean, I could be texting you last night, Casey, about something I heard at Talladega about our industry that we didn't need a media person to read, right?

So I'm sitting there going, man, I can't believe these new phones. These screens are so clear and so pretty. Like, I can read everything he's doing. So then I came to work at Stuart Haas, and a lot of guys, especially the engineers, had the privacy screens. Shady. To where you can see it, and then you can't see it. And I was like, get one of those.

So I did. Listen to me, my 10-year-old daughter got her first cell phone. I put a privacy screen on it. And I said, this is because if you're ever somewhere that you want to text me something that you don't want your friends to read, like, I'm uncomfortable, I'm not happy. I think I ate a peanut by accident. She has a peanut allergy. I said, you can text me anything you want anytime because you have this privacy screen where

nobody's going to have it. And look, we all know little girls. I'm going to tell you something. Boys are sweet. Little girls are. meaner in hell. My sister is 13 and she's starting to get into all that. My sister's in that

girl. Girls are mean. Yeah. Just mean to each other. So that's why Jovey has a privacy screen. Well, I'm going to say this. If my boyfriend has a privacy screen, he ain't going to have one because I'm going to take it off the phone. That's the only time of privacy screen is not acceptable in my book. But if you got to feel that way, you need a new boyfriend. I know, I'm just playing. I mean, kind of. Kind of. Maybe. I'm just a nosy.

So Chase Elliott has a privacy screen that's got to go. Don't have a privacy screen. Well, first, he needs to not have a girlfriend and then... Well, I'm saying if things worked out and he and Carson lied, then he's got to get rid of his privacy screen. He'll put in a good word for me. Yeah, we'll work on that. Carson, thanks for coming on.

Thanks for having me. We follow you. We value your young opinion. You're an older soul, though. You always have been. Thank you. That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. And a lot of people need to say nice and stuff.

I like that. She's always been a mature older song. Oh, yeah. She's always been independent, always done her own thing, and we're pulling for you. Thanks. If you go back to college, you've got to pick a major and you got to watch your grades. Okay, I will. And if you don't, then I think you should get into broadcasting.

Getting that party bus. We got to get that rolling. We should take a party bus to, like, midget week. We could do a reality show around that party bus weekend, and it would have major. Can we do a party bus to Midget Week? Like, you can come out to Midget Week when she's racing? I'll do it. I'll party anytime.

I don't care. Yeah, you ain't. I don't need an excuse. No. Done. I ain't scared. Find a sponsor. You're good at that stuff.

I'll find it. How much money? I don't know. Just to fuel to drive that little thing around. Yeah, that's it. That's easy. We can use the spot next to Chad's money to stock our bus. Last time we partied close to Chad, it did not end well.

We parted way too hard. For Freddie. Freddie almost crashed at the chili bar. It was a, oh, I'm curious. He wasn't even driving and he almost crashed. Yeah, he did crash, actually. He had to sit in one of those chairs. You know how we put the chairs out at Chili Bowl?

He had to sit there and pass out. Listen to me. I didn't get to have any fun at Chili Bowl this year. He almost fell over the rail onto the racetrack. Someone did that one year. That was the year that Freddie almost did it. The next day somebody actually did it. Freddy was going down the stairs and his head started away more than his feet

and his center of gravity got off. And literally, Carson, when he made this save, everybody in a grandstand stood up and clapped because we were all watching going, oh no, oh no, somebody help him. Oh, no, so. Freddie almost got in a wreck in the men's bathroom. Well, he did get a wreck when I got through that beer on him.

We had a blast. If Freddie and I go somewhere, it's going to be fun. Freddy can come to dig a party bus too. Yeah, he's invited. He won't remember shit, but he's invited. That's fine. Yeah. All right.

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