Door Bumper Clear - 135 - Get Outta My Way!

Episode Date: May 13, 2019

The gang welcomes Hannah Newhouse back to spill the dirt on her douchebag comment from Bristol. She and the guys then discuss Erik Jones blocking Clint Bowyer, the restart lineup debacle, Ross Chastain’s truck win and All-Star Race expectations.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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I'm Hannah Newhouse filling in for Casey Boat this week. A wild racing, Kansas provides plenty for the guys to cover. We'll talk night racing with the arrow package, Eric Jones move on Clint Boyer, confusion setting the restart lineup, and expectations for the All-Star race, and much more. Here we go. I'm TJ Majors. This is Rick Griffin. Get ready.

Be ready. Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got here. New leader. Watch out for this guy. White flag. Hello.

Hello. Clear. Bring home. Three light. Goor. Bumper. Clear. Hey, everybody.

I am T.J. Major. Sparta, part of the 22 cup car with Joey Legano in the 99 pickup truck with Ben Rhodes. And new guests today. It's not a pickup truck. It's a pickup truck. Is it? All right. Let's check the...

I can't pick anything up. Let's check the background. Background first. There's any tool bags back here. Not working. Making loud noises. Making loud noises. Now we're clear.

Breaker from Spotted Clint Boyer, we got a special host. The hostess with the mostus. The return. Straight out of douchebagville. Yep. Thank you. I knew. Don't make her mad.

I wish I could tell you, I thought it would like die down after maybe Martinsville. I expected it in Martinsville, or not Martinsville, Richmond. And I mean, I, no, nope, I can't even walk into the garage without. Yeah, it's not happening. You're everybody's favorite now. I thought I was jobless on the front stretch of Bristol Motor Speedway. I was like, this is it. I have to tell you.

go out. I have to tell you, 10 years ago, you would have been. But in today's world, you're like the most popular person ever. Well, it was a total slip-up. Like, like, well, obviously, but. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That wasn't a slip-up. I mean, you meant to say it. Right, but it wasn't a minute. Let's set the context here real quick. For people who don't know, Hannah was in Bristol. Hannah was doing an interview. And the guy basically insinuated to Hannah that she didn't know what she was talking about. She thought her mic was cold, which means nobody can hear her. It wasn't cold. It was extremely hot. So hot, it's still being talked about. So Hannah responds to a producer in her ear when Riley Herbst, right? Am I saying his name right?

Yep, yep. And she basically called him a douchebag. And it was epic. And it was awesome. And I literally busted out crying, laughing when I saw this. Do we beep that? No, we don't. Mike Davis said we can leave it in. It's clear. I mean, she said it. We can say it. All right. Here it is. We'll remind people. cringe. The car's killed. Look at the right side of the thing. Oh yeah, I can't, I can't see the right side over here.

So Riley Herb's out in today's K&N race. Yeah, Hannah, I could tell you from I can see the right side, and it's pretty well used up. What a doucheback. That's never going to get old enough. Oh, it's people's ringtones. Let's just put it that way. And the way that you say it with the emphasis on the D word is epic. Congratulations on becoming famous.

I feel like he was being a little bit of a smart ass? Yeah, so. Like, could you tell? Like, I didn't, like, was he definitely being? Yeah, so what people don't understand is, like, how, you know, I did track PA. So I don't have people in my ear prepping me on what's going on, what's happening. I can't see the wreck. I didn't see any of it.

I had the whole infield to myself, and so I was a one-person show down there. And they said, hey, you know, all these cars are wrecked out. I think Riley's out. Go get him. Couldn't see the car, couldn't see anything. All I know is he's out on lap one. And everyone was on me. they're like, that's what you get for sticking a mic in a person's face when they wreck out on lap one.

I'm like, guys, I have been there. I have driven these race cars. I have wrecked out on lap one. I know what it's like to do that interview. I didn't wreck your car. You did. Or someone else did. So don't be rude to me in the sense.

You're allowed to have emotion and be pissed. So have you talked to him since? Okay, no. So here's the funny story, too, is that next weekend was Richmond. And I was with MRN. And I usually, if I'm working Xfinity races, do poll qualifier. Well, guess who acquired the poll by rainout points? Who?

Riley Herps. Did you get to interview? No, I didn't. Have you talked to him or no? No, I haven't. He's an idiot then because his PR team, maybe he doesn't have one. Like, he should be capitalizing on this and making fun of it and making up with you. Like, maybe get down on one knee and do something sweet.

And I get the issue that came because he got put in a pretty bad light after that. You know what I mean? As far as people ripped on him pretty hard. And I reached out to his team. I reached out to Gilliland and made sure everything was good there. He's got a chance to capitalize on that. What a marketing fail on his part. Obviously, for you, it was a marketing plus, and I'm not going to lie to you.

When I heard you say that, I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, I thought I was jobless. It was not good. I didn't even know what happened. So I was on the front stretch still. Oh, your Twitter had to be blowing up. So this is like 15 minutes later, and my phone was in my back pocket, and my watch was going, knee, neat, neat, neat, and I'm like, I swear I charged it.

And I looked down, and it says 19 text messages and 153 Twitter notifications, and I click it. And the first thing was from Matt Weaver, and it goes, dude. your mic was hot. You just called them that live on air, and I was like, this is how I go out. This is it. This is how I'm going down.

Oh, I was mortified. And I was mortified for like a week and a half. I mean, I was terrified. So have you gotten any good gigs out of that since? Because to me, your phone should have rang and said,

hey, I want to hire this girl. She doesn't care. It was, you get in trouble? No, so I didn't get in trouble. You know, everyone just kind of said,

that was your one chance that you learned that your mic is always hot. Because it could have been lot worse. If you know me and you know my... It could have been worse. But Chris Blair from Gateway actually called me and said, hey, if you ever want to come do any stuff out here, let me know. And I'm actually working both their race events already for MRN. So I'll already be out there. But I had a

couple people that were calling me. Well, we only had you back on the show because of that. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'll add that to my list of accidental gigs. So when people say, what did you get out of it? You're now a fixture here when Casey's on. Cool. Perfect. Congratulations. So if you want to do it again, just try to word it a little differently maybe next time and say something else. Yeah, I think I'll pass on that. Where were you at when you heard about it? Were you working that race or were you doing?

I was working that race. Yeah. So you didn't hear about it until after? I didn't hear about it till after. I mean, yeah, right after I was, I think we went to dinner and I was scrolling through him like, oh, this is interesting. So Mike Herman at spots for Stenhouse, he was working that race. And he sends me a text.

Hannah Newhouse is going to be your favorite new person. And I was like, why? And then he sends me the clip of it. And I was like, actually, you're right. She is. Yeah, your driver's a case. So humor loves that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah.

On Sunday, because obviously that was Saturday night for the K&N race. Sunday, I was behind the stage for driver intros or whatever, and Clint came and found me, and I was like, oh, no. And he's like, that was awesome. And I'm like, well, of course Clint, out of all the people in this field is going to appreciate that. And I was just like mortified. If there was one guy that I could pick that would walk up to you and say that it would

definitely have been Clinton. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Zero doubt. Yeah. Zero doubt. I was like, oh, boy. Yeah. Yep.

It was an interesting weekend, and it still hasn't died down. I still have random crew guys that will come and find me. Of course you do. Walking up and down pit road. You're a legend now. You're labeled with that now. Like, that's your life. People told me they're going to sell t-shirts.

I'm like, you know what? At this point, I can't get rid of it. So just loop me in for royalties. You can do like, what a D-bag? And it's probably. Why not? Yeah. Did you get any good barbecue in Kansas City?

What did you? Eat. Eat yet. We stayed. Yeet, yeet. Eating in Kansas. So, yeet, we had to look that up last week. So did I. I have no idea.

So one person responded on Twitter, and I thought it was pretty funny that said, Yeet, that's what we say in Texas if we ask if you ate dinner yet. Yee yet. Yon't to. All right. So we stayed downtown there, and there's a little place on a corner downtown somewhere in it. It got a lot of trophies in it. So it must have been pretty good.

I went like Q39. That place was off the chain. I heard a lot of people talk about that this week. That's the first time I've heard about this place. Me too. Brisket was the best brisket I've ever eaten in my life. My burn-ins are better than theirs. Their brisket was so good it made me mad.

I was like, you can't make it this good. The only brisket that I think could probably be better than that is if Scott Crawford sends us a Trager for the show and we do it here, you know. Smoke it here. Yep, Trager Grills with Scott, you know. A lot of people were saying they need to just sponsor our show. I know, that's what we're going for. We could come up with some barbecue.

Yeah. What goes better? You can do a barbecue each. session like you talk about what you put on a trigger we'll go find somebody in the infield each racetrack that's that's using a traggar and tweets us and we'll go take pictures with them and stuff and see what they're cooking so you're loop me in on that I'm usually on the MRN bus I'm not really sure we want your type of publicity on this just saying I mean you're trying to swing on the other side of the fence still so by

Kansas yeah that was exciting probably more exciting for you I was pretty um you were pretty happened to you you aren't even relevant all night that's what i was that's pretty irrelevant we never uh we never we got a lap down there we ran long hoping to get a caution we started from the back and we got all the way to 13th in the first run um which is solid i'm fine with that um and then we uh the next stop we we uh ironically we blocked eric jones and we got it hit us in the bumper and it kind of knocked our quarter panel loose a little bit with the crush panel and so we had to fix that so went to the back again. And then we ran long and just ended up getting, we were a half straight away behind Harvick when the Koch came out. We were the second car, let down. So fixing that damage was kind of

the end of that. That hurt. And then Harvick having his problem, he come out. He took two tires, come out right in front of us. So I'm like, okay, this is, you know, and then the only time we got passed all night on a restart, Suarez gets us, gets the lucky dog. So that way, you know, we were like right there, but we just never, we finished 15. First car. I mean, if we get our lap back, I'm sure we could race top 10. Yeah. So, you know, but we just didn't get the opportunity to do it.

We just, we kept fighting all night. And, you know, I think you're... Porns leader, right? Yeah, Kyle had that trouble and lost a lot of spots there. Kyle did that to himself, by the way, because he came across my nose and cut his tire down. Yeah. And I was, I was not happy. I saw that.

He was nowhere near clear, and he came across everybody. And I was like, dude, you're four wide. You're not clear. So that's the racing that this, this, that's the stuff that's going to be tough for spotters now. We're having to call situations that we normally don't ever have to call. It happens like once or twice a year. You're four or five wide. Now we're having that pretty regularly on restarts at a track like that. And it's hard. You have to watch what's going on around you. And you've got runs coming from behind. They're going to make a hole. So you've got to know what's going on

there. And I mean, it's a new, it's a new game of spotting now. And you've got to, to be able to describe a lot of situations really fast and a lot of info. And hopefully your guy doesn't hesitate when he gets that info and makes the decision. If you hesitate, you're going to get turned. Yeah. So, but yeah, tell us about your exciting race. Mine? Yeah.

I watched your race. It wasn't mine. So I went back and watched your race. I skipped every lap with your car. Your race was pretty boring. My race? Yeah. Everybody that you raced, you caught them.

They let you go. Everybody that caught you, you kind of like, they just motored on by. It was after it was strung out. Yeah. Like, we were, we were really, really, really fast.

Yeah, but I mean, really, really, really trimmed out. So when we got in traffic, we were really, really, really loose. Yeah,

that was our struggle, right? I can see that. So we just never could catch up to the track. So pit stops, restarts, track position.

And a track probably cycle loose as well. It did. It got looser as the night went on. As it got, yeah, as it got cooler, it got looser. But yeah,

I mean, we had a super fast car, track position. And the key for me, honestly at the end of the races or at the end of the race was to get the top on restarts. If you got the bottom, you were stuck down there and if you got stuck in the middle with equal tires, you were screwed. If somebody got to your right rear and everybody was on equal tires, that middle line was screwed.

But if you had tires, you could shoot that middle line and make up a ton of ground. We saw guys do that. So it was... Yeah. We made up ground on the bottom, but you had to be... When you got your positions, you know, you took what was given to you from the shorter distance in one and two, and then you had to make a hole somehow. You couldn't wait, or you had to get through three and four really good and clear.

If you were on the bottom, a complete lap. If you come off four and you're still on the bottom, you're in trouble. I'll tell you what. I really felt vulnerable telling Clint over the radio some of the things that I was telling him. You know, like, hey, on this restart, if we let somebody to our right rear, we're screwed. If we let somebody to our right rear during the run, we're screwed. Like, because we know other people are listening to us. So then they're going to relay out to their driver.

Well, you know, the 14 is saying, if you get to his right rear, he's done. Well, then they know, oh, well, somebody gets to our right rear, we're done. So those are things where we're giving out information that during the race obviously is important. I mean, we should have ran second. We ended up fifth. But nonetheless, you're telling your kind of trade secrets over the radio. Yeah, I think the top handful of guys, we are like, that's nothing that we don't already. I mean, the biggest thing to do is to get to the guys outside quarter panel.

I don't think 40 people on the roof knew it. But now they don't know it. But, I mean. 20 probably did. Shame on then if they don't know it by now because it's been like that for years. I mean, if you don't know that already and you don't have that worked out with your driver, you're not a top tier. A mile and a half track has never raced like that raced on Saturday night. Not exactly.

No, it was it was a go-karts still. It was. It was like going to GoPro. It's like slot cars that wouldn't spin out. But, you know, Martin Truex hit the 41 so hard in the back. And he just drove out of it still. He saved it and drove out of it. It proves what we've been.

been saying these cars are too easy to drive. They're too glued to the racetrack and you can't wreck them. Yeah. I talked to Larson last night. I ran into him and I was like, man, you're the only guy all weekend to try and wreck a race car and he wrecked it in practice. Saved it, didn't hit anything, but he's the only guy that was able to find the edge with this arrow package at this racetrack and literally wrecked the car. And we saw, I saw Chase Elliott wreck a dozen times, saw Sores get wrecked. I saw Kyle Bush get wrecked. And guess what they didn't do. They didn't wreck. They saved it. You cannot wreck these cars. It's like a truck with all the side force when they get sideways. Like Ross, I thought Ross was wrecked in that truck race off to turn two and I'm, he somehow saved it. So, uh, yeah. We call him out last week on the show,

Ross Chastain. He goes out and he wins his first truck race. You're welcome, Ross. Yeah, you're welcome. Crediting the win, a door bumper clear. What do you think about Ross went in his first race? I think it was cool. Like, I again, I didn't really watch a lot of the racing from Kansas this weekend. You suck? I know, I know. You know, it was my one weekend off. I woke up the next morning to figure out who won. I had my parents in town.

My mom was in town from Idaho. Okay, well, excuse me. So that's all you did? Your parents, you sat on a couch and talked. I don't have cable, so that's the first thing. Millennial. Are you a millennial? I'm post-millennial.

What are you? I don't know, whatever after millennial is. I'm 1997. That's old. Jason, what are you? That's old. Whatever Hannah is, too. You all don't even know what you are.

I think it's Gen Z or something. No, that dude's a millennial in there. That's a 100% millennial. No. 100%. Technically, no. Who makes these rolls up? Why would I have to be 100% millennial?

It's generational, TJ. It's not a rule. Do you not think he's, I think he's a millennial? He's whatever he's born in. I can't just assume a generation. I mean, what's the dates of it? It's like, I think it's like 95 or 96. Who decides in?

It ends in 96, yeah. I think I'm a Generation X or I'm a baby baby. Is that like, oh, I'm not a, Wait a minute. Saved by the Bell's ending. We're going to start a new generation. That's right. Based on TV series, 90210.1. That is a weird, weird ending date. Like 97 is post-millennial. Is it like May 13th, 97 or is it? I graduated college in 97.

Really? What a great year. Oh, yeah. Damn. Yeah. That was awesome. All right. Let's start the show, Hannah. Yeah, all right. All right. Moving on to spot on spot off. He's spot off then. I don't know you like it, spot off, you don't like it, and you say why either way.

I really could kind of sound like Casey when I say spot on, spot off there. Try it. No, we're good. I'll just kill it. All right, first topic here. Day versus night racing with the current arrow package. TJ, you can start. I like day racing still.

I like car sliding around a little bit more. I think there's more opportunity of that when it gets hot. It was cool seeing night racing. I think that stuck the car. us together a little bit more. Definitely, definitely, I think, I saw some handling issues still. We have handling issues. We're not wide open the entire time. I just think that magnifies when it gets hot out. So, you know, I, I'm still day race. T.J. was against me last week when I said this was going to be the test on this arrow package. We were going to find out if this arrow package

was ever going to work, and guess what it finally did at a mile and a half track. It worked. We have, in my opinion developed this whole package solely to make downforce tracks put on a better show. And that was the first downforce track we've seen put on a good show all year. We went to Richmond with this package and couldn't pass. Dover with this package and couldn't pass. We get to a night race, low temperatures, and we put on a hell of a show. Jeff Gluck's poll was 90% of the people thought it was a great race. I agreed I thought it was a great race.

In the daytime, we run closer together with this package, yes. Can we pass? Absolutely not. Most cars cannot. At night, man, we could. I thought it was honestly everything they intended for this package to produce and finally produced it. These tracks better get to putting up lights. I think you have the same race, maybe a little bit better, a little more runs and stuff with daytime racing. I didn't see people get super tight behind guys.

Like I didn't see the, not like Dover. Dover was bad. You couldn't even get within four carlings of the guy. Here I saw guys drive pretty close up behind guys. I mean, close than Dover, for sure. sure, and they're going faster too. I think, I think, I don't know, I think it's, I thought, I think it'll be good in the day still. We're going to find out, what's our next day, mile and a half, Kentucky?

I think so. Charlotte. No, it's night race. It's evening. The open. But it's not going to be cool as it was in Kansas. I mean, we were racing in the 40s there, low 50s, and we'll see. Bless.

Next one here for you. 10 laps under caution as NASCAR set lineup before the restart with 30. to go. Brett will be spot on for this. Yeah, Brett, your first. How can we continue to do this every week? How can we continue to struggle so much with the lineup? I had a guy from Martin Truex's team, send me a text yesterday that said,

please talk about the fact that we lost a lap and we shouldn't have. We should have been one down. We beat the pace car off pit road or we beat the leader off pit road based on where the leader was on the track, right, and where Martin Truex was out on pit road. But because the leader was at speed, they said we didn't beat him because we were behind him, we ended up losing an additional lap because they can't figure out how to freeze the field ultimately. Who's losing here is the competitors and the fans, because they let Eric Jones get his lap back. Coming to one to go, they realized, okay, Eric Jones is supposed to be on lead lap.

He drives all the way around the field, pulls up in the eighth position. The lucky dog is seventh. How does the lucky dog end up seventh, and Eric Jones is on the lead lap and end up eighth? He's on the outside in this restart. Well, what that does, Hannah, is that? screws up the entire lineup behind him. He got screwed. Yeah. He was supposed to be way further up than that. So, so not only does True X get screwed, Jones gets screwed, then the lineup gets screwed up. And again, we're talking 10 pace laps. We're talking 12 to 15 minutes and we can't figure it out. Red flag the race. Stop it. Go back to your TV footage. You got 70 million cameras there. Figure it out, get it right. Roll us back off. Don't ride around out there, wasting gas,

wasting viewership. Like, it's frustrating for us. I wasn't. screwed so I didn't care to be honest with you. I didn't care if they screwed the whole field as long as I didn't get screwed. I'll tell you what doesn't make this easier is we race if you're on pit road and the yellow comes out and you're on if you're on the turn four side of the start finish line you're racing the leader to the start finish line only you're not racing to the end of pit road once you beat him to the start finish line you're locked right there compared to whatever past you on the track that's where you come in that's where you slot in at on the racetrack when you're on the turn one side of pit road, you get you race to the end of the line, to the yellow line.

And, you know, it used to be pretty easy. They used to have that down pretty good. I don't know why that's gotten so difficult lately, but what makes this harder is the fact that the guys that come off pit road, instead of blending right there where, you know, in an area where they should, they just speed up and they just, a lot of them just speed up and try to take something. And this, that messes everything up. When everybody, When everybody just tries to take what they think they earned or whatever, like I don't know the 19 situation. I know he was on the turn 4 side of pit road.

I don't know where the leader passed him or anything like that. But when you come off pit road and say the leader beats him to the line, he comes off pit road. He just passes everybody, comes back around. Then that makes it even harder to figure out. And people do that. Do they not? Yeah, for sure.

You try to manipulate it into your advantage, to your advantage, any chance you get. Yeah. So maybe we do need to red flag it when it gets like this to stop. We don't, there's a handful of people up there. We were restarting. We were 15th on the racetrack. We were 5th, scored 15th. P-14's on the lead lap because he's a lucky dog.

I'm restarting. Where do you think I'm starting? If I'm 15th in line, there's a lucky dog. You're supposed to be. I'll be 14th. You'd be, yeah. So I had a guy pulling up on my outside that thought he was, I thought he should have been out there.

And I'm like, no, I'm the first car lap down. The lucky dog is back there. And so they're pulling up trying to go three while. You're back. I'm like, no. We had three rows of three wide during this process. But that's the stuff that messes this all up. But here's the thing. There's a wheel and a tire sitting on what they call the ball field,

even though I've never seen anybody play baseball down there or football or any kind of ball. Anyway, they call it the ball field. It's the grassy area in the trial between pit road and the racetrack. Okay. That wheel down there is extremely dangerous because if for any reason a car does get wrecked and hits that wheel, that wheel is going to go flying through the air at 100 plus an hour. It's an 80-pound wheel.

It'll kill somebody. It'll kill somebody. It'll take your head off, right? So when that wheel gets out there, they immediately know we have to throw a caution. So in their mind, and look, every race is different, every caution is different, every lineup's different. It's not easy, but nonetheless, they know they have to say in their minds, we're getting ready to have to throw a caution.

We're in the middle of a pit cycle. Ryan Newman's tire is in the grass. Let's get our shit together before we hit this button. Let's take an extra second here to figure out what we're going to need for resources to get this right. And I think it's like, pow, yell us out. And it's like, uh-oh. There's just a lot of moving parts at one time. and it doesn't make it easier.

It's tough, it's tough for them too. It is. It's hard on them too, but we, I feel like we as a group could do better, but instead of just taking what we think we earned or whatever, and I mean, like the 20 car got scored, he should have been way up further than what he was. Dude, he barely got back on a lead lap.

They almost went green with him one down. He should have been up near the lead. And that's just, like, but we, like, just noticing, like, guys are in it for themselves a lot when that happens, and I get it. Everyone was trying to get them advantage. You never know. The thing, what T.J. saying is the 20 had already pitted.

So if the 20 is legal and on the lead lap, he should almost inherit the lead. The lead. He should certainly not be behind the lucky dog on a restart. Exactly. If he's deemed on the lead lap and he's already pitted, everyone else on the lead lap when the caution comes out, they're going to come pit. And we did, which makes Eric Jones the leader. Right. Guess who wasn't the leader?

Eric Jones, right. Guess who barely got back on the lead lap. And they weren't going to go green with him on the lead lap. We saw it at Bristol. We're seeing this. And look, next thing we know, T.J. and I are going to have to go in there and watch a race because we're saying we think we know what they should do. I know it's hard.

I know it's difficult. Absolutely. It's hard. Steve O'Donnell's in there, you know, the race operations guy. I mean, they got a lot of people in there. It is. But they got to get these right. Yeah.

But it's just, I'm saying a lot of times we don't make it easier on them by any means because everyone wants that competitive advantage. But at the same time, if you knew you were supposed to be on lead lap and or you knew you're supposed to be the leader. Like you're going to be, you're going to have a gistie fit. know the role that you got passed by the guy by the leader before the start finish line you come off pit road and you just go on and by it because you need to spotters need to know the roles as well as soon as you the rules not the roles we know our roles

same thing when the when the caution comes out you look on pit road you look where the leader is you know where you're supposed to be at that point don't come out there and try to take when they start putting people in front of you that aren't supposed to be in front of you yeah i mean i'm frustrated and you got a got three wide on your right rear that you know ain't supposed to be out there yeah you're like hey you get flustered. And you're like, you're screwing me. I'm supposed to be outside and then restart. I'm forthcoming. I'm like, okay, well, that's good for me. And that cost comes out.

I'm in a good spot to get to Lucky Dog. Here, I got this guy that I'm racing that thinks he's supposed to be in front of me on my outside. Now I'm like, no, this is not right. It's hard. It's frustrating. They've, you know, they've had to. I don't know if there's a perfect formula for doing this. I, you know, I just think that we've got transponders. We've got TV cameras. We've got technology, right? We've got to be able to freeze the field and and figure it out and just take the time to get it right. I think if you red flag at, though, people are going to be like, oh, what the heck? The only thing I really ask of the tower is this.

Don't give us one to go and then start barking out orders. Yeah, until you're sure. At one to go, we're getting in line and getting ready to race, and all of a sudden, you start moving cars. And so if the crew chief's talking or the driver's talking, we're delayed communication to tell our driver what to do, well, then we're going to make the other 20 people mad that we're passing. Like when Eric Jones's situation goes down, that's hard on us. Like, once you say one to go, if you're going to start barking out orders, hold the one to go. hold the one to go, get the line up right, then redistribute the one to go when we're ready for one to go.

It's confusing on our end, too, to watch. Like, you guys obviously have the in-ear communication with your driver, and you guys can hear race control, but for someone who's, you know, in the infield or watching the race, and all of a sudden, they're pulling Eric, and he's all of a sudden eighth, and they're moving this person. They're like, why is my driver moving around? We learn whatever you learn. I mean, it's not like we have a secret channel where we hear before that, yeah, but it's

confusing. It's super confusing because, you know, they see the cars come off pit road and they see this, and all of a sudden, everyone's. swip swapping around and no one understands why they're three wide. It's always been a hard time whenever something happens in the middle of cycle. It's always been a challenge at times. But, you know, if everyone kind of works on the same page, it could be easier. I would imagine they're having a Monday meeting today and they're going,

how do we not have this happen again and again and again? I don't know if it ever doesn't become a little bit of an issue. I don't know if it ever does. I don't know. Maybe they should come out and say it, though. Hey, it's an issue. It's a challenge. Here's why.

Or here's what we're going to do moving forward. I mean, if the college comes out, pit road's all one, and you're locked. If you truly understand racing and you truly understand lineups, it's difficult for us to operate in those situations. It's very difficult. I mean, there is time to be gained if you're the leader, you know, and there's guys on pit road, the caution comes out for debris. You're going to hustle around there a little bit still.

Yeah. Because you want to get mad. I don't do my job when I get mad. There is advantages to it. There is advantage you can get when that happens. But like, I'm just saying when it comes out, just look where you're at. If the leader's in turn three and you're real,

I mean, don't pass him if he's already past you. It just messes things up more. TJ's blaming the spotters. You're like a driver. I blame me some spotters. Oh boy. Eric Jones move on Clint Boyer taking the white flag. We'll go ahead and start with, yeah,

we'll start with Brett on this one. I mean, his move is ultimately, I guess, spot on for him. The guy went on and finished the race. You know, for me watching it, obviously it pissed me off because I knew that I was going to go to second if I get to his right rear and I'm going to clear him and Bowman, I think, pretty easily. Clint decided to lift and not wreck him because he thought it would wreck himself. And the fact that we were running in top four at the time probably means we're going to wreck about 30 more cars.

What happens is, though, Hannah, is Eric Jones is taking the fate of his race car. And he's taking it out of his own hands and he's putting it in the fate of Clint Boyer. Had this been a different scenario or a different driver? Eric Jones could have ended up in the hospital. He could have ended up with a torn up car. He could have ended up with 20 cars torn up because of the move that he made. It was super late. I don't know if he was late.

I don't know if the information that he got made him late, but for whatever reason, his block was super late. Clint was a nice guy. If I'd have had a remote control button, Eric Jones would not have finished that race. You good? I'm good. I'm not mad.

I'm just telling you how this is. I watched it. I went back and looked at it. Clint did have to check up. He used a little break as well. Um, his four mile an hour difference is what he, what he changed,

um, but it was a block. It's one lap to go. I mean, I don't, I'd have blocked, I would have bought the same thing. I don't know if we would have been there earlier or later or whatever,

but, um, if a run's coming, you're going to try to put your car in front of it. I don't, I don't think Eric did anything wrong. I think that's what this package is bringing this stuff. So you better get used to it.

I mean, it's not, this isn't the last time you're going to be blocked. I mean, uh, the guy's not going to just let you go by. And if he let you go through the middle, he's just going to side draft.

I don't think you clear him. I don't think you clear him. I think, and, you know, yeah, it would have been, it sucks as you got blocked, but, I mean, it's just that, that's what's going to happen now. I mean, what also is going to happen is guys are going to get run over.

I mean, that's no different than, than any other block back in the day. Tony Stewart, if you blocked Tony Stewart, what do you do? Correct you. He ran over you, and you didn't block him again. You know, that's just the... He can be labeled, Mr. Nice Guy or Mr. get a guy out of my way.

And I would put him. prefer Mr. get the fuck out of my way on my radio. So I watched the run, and it was a good run, but I feel like if it was good enough, you know, Clint could have been a little more force with him, probably got to a quarter panel of either left or right. Eric did a good job of blocking the left, then coming all the way back up, and, you know, I don't know.

And I think Clint made a mistake running through one and two in his tracks. I think the somebody behind him had a run. The 48. Yeah, but just like we talked about it, after the fact, you're flustered. Yeah, you're mad. You're mad. Clint chased him down to the court. And Clint tried to run through one or two wide open about knocked the wall down.

He tried to get him loose, which you could do. Yeah. But you can't do it now. He can't. He drove in there, tried to fall in there and get him loose and pass him, and you can't. And I guess the nose took off on him probably in the 48 come of the run behind him. You know, if Clint would have said, okay, I'm block. When that guy shoots at the bottom, I'm just going to get it wound up.

The better, you know, the smart thing would just get it wound back up and see where you end up the run through three and four. And they're probably going to be racing still in fronty at some point. But, you know, that's just the nature of this. package now. There's going to be big blocks. And there's going to be people getting wrecked moving forward. People are going to watch that and go, well, one to go, I'm not letting that guy in. Screw him. If I wreck everybody, I wreck everybody.

Yeah. It's going to happen. If Clint had a redo, I bet he'd wreck him. Yeah, I was going to say, I watched and how that whole encounter happened. I think if he'd had done how to redo, he maybe wouldn't have lifted. I'm still not sure. That was going to wreck the car, though. Who knows? They're stuck, man. They're stuck. The 41 guy

hit in the corner. In the corner. Real hard. And he didn't wreck. Real hard. So, I mean, I don't know. The encounter after the race was pretty cool, too, going with Clint walking down to Eric. I was like, I wasn't sure you never know with Clint how that encounter was going to go. And I think he handled it really well, though.

He pretty much said, dude, really? Like, I could have wrecked you and just so you know in future? Yeah. I'm probably going to wreck you. I don't see Clint as being a fighter, but damn, he sure does have some good confrontations. He knows what to say. Oh, stupid. Like, he knows what to say to be serious.

And get his point across. and kind of be a, like, he's the most serious, smart ass that you could have. Yeah. I think there's only twice I've known him to want to fight. Once was obviously Jeff Gordon. Oh, yeah, he was running. He's running. He's fighting.

The other one was last year at Dover. People can go back and figure out who that might have been. Oh, but he's like, I might have got my ass kick, but I was going to whip his ass if I could, you know. Who was it? I'm not saying. Can you tell me initials? Are you in? Oh.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That might have been a bad decision. It would have been fun to watch. That might have been a bad decision. Oh, yeah. Next one here. Alex Bowman becomes the first driver ever to finish second three consecutive times before getting his first win.

He's close. Oh, man. You know, that's my old team there. So, you know, I was glad Brad was able to win for Penske. But, you know, Alex is running great. They've found some speed. I don't know where they found it, how they did it. but the last couple weeks they've been, you know,

you kind of throw Talladegh out the window a little bit because they lined up and had 20 on midline, and we lost all our help. Thanks to Bubba. You know, you go to these Dover, they were fast, and I wasn't really sure Dover was going to translate over to Kansas very well. Just because you drive Dover, they were just driving into the corner Dover,

letting it, like, hammering into the corner, turning it and going. Like it was like a go-kart type race there too. And they carried it over to here. and they were fast, but, you know, obviously he made a big mistake. You know, where don't you let a guy get? To your right rear. You don't give him the...

And he come off a two and he pulled down and he gave him the outside. And I was like, well, I don't know if you were going to win, but now I know you're definitely not going to win. Yeah, you give the guy the bottom. When he turns left, you turn left. He turns left more, you turn left more. You get on his door. You ride his door until you get the run and slow him down enough.

And when your momentum starts carrying back, you get away from him. Cup cars are racing like trucks, and if you watch truck races, that's how they race. Yeah, I mean, cup cars have race, have race, right side of air is super important. Super important. And it's been that way for a long time. But it's more important now and ever. Yeah, I mean, even five years ago, even five years ago, I would have gave the bottom before the top.

Yeah. I'm not moving out of the way. I mean, I've seen last lap passes made all the time. The guy on the outside wins the race, except for maybe a plate race when they just, you know, that's different. But all last lap passes usually always happen on the outside. spot off for Alex becoming the first driver to finish second and three consecutive races. That can't be fun. That is not a stat that you want to own. You want to win the race.

He's obviously very good at becoming the bridesmaid. He better hurry up and become the bride. It's like he almost heard the rumors that were going around about him a few weeks ago. Because we're in rumor season, right? Or this guy's on the hot seat. This guy's on the hot seat. This crew chief's in trouble. And this spotter's done. We're in rumorville. My man just busted off three seconds in a row. Perfect timing for him. Obviously, as T.J. They said they've got a lot more speed. Jimmy had a good run. He had a better finish than he had a race on Saturday night.

But nonetheless, Hendrick cars have found a lot of speed from even last year to this year. You know, I'll spot on, Alex. So that's huge for his confidence as well. So good for them guys. I really thought he had to race one. Oh, I did twice. Yeah. I mean, he drove from the back to the front.

When Harvick pulled down and had the problem that he had with the overheating issue, I was like, man, okay, Harvick is by hands down the best car tonight. He's the guy to beat. Alex Bowman in practice was crazy fast, making a lot of moves. So I was like, 88 may take control of this race. And he kind of did. I think the four got worse as the race went on as well. His car got too free, I think, as well.

Got in that traffic, man. Yeah. But, you know, what you just reminded me of is, did you not, did you ever look at the top three or four? I'm sure you did more than I did. And look at like, holy cow, Ricky Stenhouse might win this race. He made a move going into one. And then he got the lead.

And I was like, wow. That move going into one was phenomenal. I was like, I'm trying to spot my car back here, and I'm looking up like, that's hard to do, man. Oh, it's really hard to do. Because I'm more interested. Like when you're having a night like TJ had, which obviously I had won at Talladega a few weeks ago, you're more interested in the lead in the race and you are your guy.

You want to watch it. Yeah, yeah, this is good, man. And it was like, you know, if a wreck happens, it might be right here. So I kind of need to watch a little bit, you know, but you also want to keep an eye on your car. And then you remember they can't wreck. Yeah. I don't know, man. And if there was, that was one car that I think probably could figure out a way still.

Yeah. You know, that was the thing with Ricky's move, you weren't blocking him. If you did, you were going to get a wreck. You're going around. Yeah. Because he's, he's, he's, he's an aggressive guy. And that was a hell of a movie going to one. I thought it was awesome looking.

When he, when I saw, I looked up there and I see a car go all the way almost with the apron and the one, I'm like, oh, okay, that's going to be big. And he cleared him and made it work. Yeah, it was awesome. You know, that's, um, benefit. You know, that's this package, man. It's, you know, you can, you can keep it wound up. and you're lifting just enough to fight it a little bit, but you can still make it work.

Like, I didn't know. I was really impressed Brad was able to get back to it. Chris Busher definitely had a great race. He had a phenomenal race. He was in a paint scheme that you could not tell who he was, what his car number was. Whoever designed that car. It was a night race, by the way.

It was a night race with a dark car. Like, that was the worst paint scheme I've seen in years. Thank goodness that wasn't at a plate track. I had no idea. His spotter has a hard enough time getting him a clean lap and qualifying with me pulling out in front of him. So if he'd have been at it, at a night race at Talladega, I don't know what he would have done.

Yeah, that car was hard to see. He's been really good the last couple weekends, though. I mean, he's been really well the last couple weekends. And he's a quiet dude, personality-wise. Yeah. So when you're a Matt Kenseth personality, you really have to shine when you get in the seat of the car versus a Michael Waltrip, who's a really animated, fun personality for the sport that sometimes, you know, he was able to carry his career on because it was personality

versus his results. Bushers got to get results because his personality's way too low-key to not. Yeah. All right, last one here on the spot on spot off. And Jason has audio for it afterwards. But Chase Elliott's comments about the drivers, owners and teams' opinions influencing the rules. I've kind of come to the realization,

and maybe this will change as time goes, but I just don't think that my opinion really matters to the people who make the rules. And, you know, really and truly, I'm not sure that it should, right? I mean, why did the owners and the drivers and the teams even have a voice, you know, in some of that stuff, really, when it comes down to it, just make the rules and be done with it. We're trying to make everybody happy.

We're racing. You either like it or you don't. I like it. Spot on. I mean, why are you going to listen to the people that are going to be biased for their own car? I mean, Chase is going to want to do stuff that's going to make him faster. I'm going to want to do stuff that makes us faster. I mean, if you're an owner, do you not want to do stuff that makes your team better?

Yeah. I mean, and he's right. I think Chase hit the nail on the head, man. Spot on. He's smart. I think he made his comment, and I think he realized that I'm... Rott row. I might want to back up here.

Same. I know that feeling. NASCAR doesn't listen to me. But maybe they shouldn't. Like, I feel like he completely went, uh-oh, I'm in trouble. I'm going to back out of this comment. This is the most popular driver. I disagree with TJ.

I think we need a lot of voices in the garage to come up with the best case scenario. Dell Jr. had this brilliant. idea to put track bar adjusters in the car. Well, they did it. Well, they should not have listened to him. They took it out, right? There has to be a voice of reason somewhere in the middle. We want a lot of races with that track bar. But you've got to, like Clint a few weeks ago, these cars are too easy to drive. We're not wrecking them. You got to give us something that we can wreck to put on a show. Well, people are like, wow, that's a bold statement. But, I mean, I think he's right. So I think some of the comments they say are right. I think some are wrong. I think drivers do deserve a voice.

owners are putting $15 to $20 million a team right now in these top tier teams to go compete. I definitely think they deserve a voice. If I'm in the NFL and my players are getting concussions, I think I deserve a voice on the helmet technology, right? So as a business owner, this sport is still, even though it's franchised out with RTA for 36 entries a week, it still has a lot of free enterprise elements. There's a difference there, though. And everybody needs a little say. You know, you want to develop better helmets.

That's not performance-based. This is performance-based. Oh, it's performance-based. I mean, if you're talking about, that's a safety thing. I'm all four of them being involved in safety issues and stuff. What can we build in these cars to make them safer? If you take the helmets off, you'll see how much it helps to perform. I know what I mean, now.

You lead with your head knowing you're not going to get hurt, you're going to do it. If you know, you might get a concussion, you hit with your face mask. I'm saying there's like people aren't going to be biased. You know, everyone's going to want safer helmets in football. For sure. You know, everyone, now these guys. We all want safe helmets for our guys. These guys all drive differently.

They're all going to want, some guys are going to want to be loose. Some guys are going to want to be tight. So they're going to push for that type of handling car, that type of package that benefits their driving style. You know, I don't, I think, I like Chase just saying, let's just put the rolls out. Let's go race. I mean, that's what we're doing. I just go with it. I think NASCAR is doing a good job this year.

Much better than they have in years past. Jim France presence at the track. Hands down a big step up from, you know, Brian France, who we never saw. I think they're just handling stuff better. We don't have any, hey, did that guy win? Wait a minute. Are you getting fine? Do this guy win?

Where am I going to finish? There's none of that. We leave the racetrack knowing who won the race. We're not worried about it. Done. Yeah. All right, that is it for spot on, spot off. Let's take a break and see what's coming up on the Dale Jr.

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11 drivers failed pre-race inspection on Saturday, and it dominated the pre-race storylines. What can be done to prevent race-day tech inspection from being the biggest storyline leading into a race? Brett, your first with 30 seconds. Man, I don't have an issue with this, you know? I really don't. I think when we were having those qualifying debacles on Friday, it dominated the discussion all day Friday, all day Saturday leading into the race on Sunday. I think what you see here is guys really pushing the envelope, wanting a good starting spot. wanting a good pit selection.

And I mean, we're talking about some of these guys were failing by one-one-thous-of-an-inch or something crazy. So I think it's just every... I think this is the crew chief and engineers doing their job. I really do. I was 10,000s. Yeah. So, you know, I'm the same way.

I think this is what you're going to have now, but we know now starting the race, this guy is... You're right, you know, and I applaud NASCAR for not putting up an end. If you're either in the green or you're in the red. You're in the red, you're going back in line. One shot. Do it. I like it.

I don't have an issue with this being the storyline leading into the race. I really don't. And I think if you're a fan and your driver gets caught, you're pissed off. You should be, right? If you're a fan and your driver qualified 10th and five people get kicked out, all of a sudden, your guy's fifth. Like, man, what a, what a grab. I mean, if you're watching the Kentucky Derby, your horse just got a better post.

So I think it's all good for the sport, to be honest with the way we're doing it. I mean, the fans that are in the garage and Sunday morning are getting to watch a great process and be a part of a really entertaining process. You know, oh man, that guy just failed. I mean, if I'm a fan, I'm in heaven in the garage on Sunday. By the way, Sunday morning or race day morning, fire your phone up, go to YouTube. This is broadcast live. Really?

Yeah. I mean, I saw this thing pop up on YouTube. My phone doesn't work at the track, but. Well, if it did. You can actually, they have a camera in that room that shows it scanning. So NASCAR.com is where it's being broadcast. It was NASCAR. might have been on NASCAR.

It was a YouTube channel on NASCAR. I was like, holy cow, it brought it up. And I was like, dang, look at that. You can't see a difference in anything. But it's cool they have it there where you can watch it and check it out. They need a green light red light. That'd be awesome. Yeah.

Did you pass? Yeah. Yep. Get your ass back in line. Yep. The 2020 schedule only includes two mile and a half points paying night races, being the Coke 600 and Kentucky. After what we saw at Kansas, should that be changed?

similar arrow package is used next season. TJ, your first. Oh, man. You know, I thought this weekend was fun. I thought it was good. I think mile and a half might be gaining some ground back on short tracks and road courses who have been dominating the polls and liked races. So, you know, I don't think it's something we need to just jump in and be like,

okay, we need eight of them and we need eight of them now. I think it's, I think it's cool that there's going to be more emphasis on them races now. They have a mile and a half used to be like, oh, another mile and a half, another mile and a half. Now it's going to be like, oh, a mile and a half. Now, man, we're going to win. You know what I mean? I think there's more emphasis for people to win there now. I want to see passing.

The opportunities to pass with this package at a mile and a half. We're present in Kansas. If we don't see it during the day, better get to putting lights up. I mean, I think we go to Michigan at night with those temperatures. We put on one hell of a show. We're getting ready to go to Michigan in two weeks. And if it's 80 degrees and we don't, you got a big decision to make, boys. Somebody does.

Not me. I'm glad it's not me. I'm not sure Michigan's going to be that good with the track the way it is. It's just, it's too narrow right now still. You know, old Michigan widened out. It couldn't be any wider. You could run right against the fence after the tires wore out and, you know, really make up some time. I'm not sure whether daylight or nighttime Michigan race is going to make a difference.

The wake of these cars is wider and the groove is narrow. So it's going to be tough. But when you're going so slow, not not slow, when you've got so much grip, like we saw at Kansas. You can really, really move around. Be curious to see what we see at Michigan. I don't care. I don't care if we have, we're going slower.

Like, I really don't care if we're going slower. If guys can get runs and make moves, that's all that really matters now. Yeah. All right, another package-related question here for you. Saturday night's All-Star Race will feature potential Gen 7 car elements with a single-piece carbon fiber splitter and a radiator duct exiting through the hood with the current arrow package, what kind of racing do you guys expect to see?

We don't know. And we don't know what we don't know, right? I was talking with Lee D's, our engineer on our team about this, and he believes that the splitter is a move in the right direction. He doesn't really understand what we're trying to accomplish with the radiator and the duck coming out the roof or whatever's going on there, right? But he thinks that we're going to get more air under these cars with the splitter the way it is and this step-up package or whatever

they're even naming the splitter. I don't know. But again, we'll see, right? I mean, we announced on this show last year that we had a big rules change coming for the All-Star race, and it ultimately ended up being our current package, obviously, with some modifications. So I guess we'll see if that's happening again. Yeah, I'm not sure what it's going to do myself.

I don't think anybody really knows, but if it does what they want to do and it creates a little more drag in the cars to get runs and make it, you know, make it interesting. We saw more lower-tiered cars running towards the front last week than normal, I think. So even Bubba was out there able to lay a good qualifying lap down. Qualified 12. Yeah, man. So they're, you know, a couple adjustments away for race trim.

They normally don't get that type of opportunity to work on their car for they're not that far up. But I'm all for it. Shout out to Tyler Reddick. He ran a great race. Had a good finish. He did that fourth at one point. He benefited from the. From the caution.

He benefited from the caution, but he still ran a great race. He doesn't run this good with the old package. I'll say this about the All-Star race. The winner and the driver and the owner get a lot of money, right? It's a big payout. For the rest of us, when we hear the word exhibition race, it literally is an exhibition race. We're not out there earning money, earning points, earning anything. It is all for our show and all for the fans, which is an awesome tribute.

I'm telling you right now, when this race is over, if you win, The driver and owner are extremely happy. They want a boatload of money. And the rest of us are all like, all right, want to go to Big Alas in Moorsville and have a beer? Because there's not a whole lot on the line for the rest of us. It's all about the show. But when you look at what the NFL does and what the NBA does

from a competition perspective, it's a joke. They don't play defense. They don't want to get hurt. Like our guys are out there. They're running 190 miles an hour, you know, putting their life on the line. And those guys are in the heat of the moment trying to win a million bucks. The rest of us were like, uh, all right. That was the longest 30 seconds. I'm pretty sure he was already. I was like,

I was like, I'm pretty sure that was like the fourth time around. That was just about our All-Star race, man. Holy cow. We were on a tangent. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. What are you going to do if you finish second All-Star race, T.J.? Go home. Go home. Go home. Go on watching a millennial show. I don't know. Oh, boy. All right. Here's that off-the-wall question for you here. A company in London has an open position as a luxury yacht tester where you spend a week on the yacht to assure it's up to a high standard. Would you quit your current job to take this one, T.J. It's only a week.

No, you get to do it. They go per yacht per week, but then you get to go to different yachts and travel around the world. Do you get to like take anybody or it's just you by yourself? I don't know. You give me a yacht. I'm not going by myself. I can tell you that right now. I'm just stuck at C by myself.

That's a pretty entertaining offer. So I'd need to know the benefits package, Jason. You know, if there is one. Is there dental? Is there healthcare? Yeah, of course. Your dentist comes on the off. You get Wagyu beef.

Oh. You get your own chef. Your own wing to your own level kind of? You get to go to your own private island. That's your benefits. I'm not worried about your dental. Sorry, Joey, I'm out. I'm going on the boat.

If I didn't have kids, a thousand percent, I know. But I've got kids, and I'm not raising them on a boat. Ironically, I'm not going to be on this show the Monday after the Coke 600. We're recording on Tuesday. Because I'm going to be on a yacht. Oh, not on Tuesday, right? I'll send y'all pictures. Tuesday, we're recording.

I'm still going to be on a yacht. And on Wednesday, I'm still going to be on a yacht. And on Thursday, I'm going to fly home from the yacht. You're going to call in? I'll try to call in since this Tuesday. Clint's turning. 40. We got a big party planned. It's obviously not a surprise, or I wouldn't be telling you out here. Lake Norman? Yeah, we're taking a 75 to the yacht out on Lake Norman.

Late Norman yacht party. If you see a boat lit up. It's close. It's Clint, yeah. Yes. That's interesting. I never, uh, I didn't know you could. So how many days are you gone? Three? We're going to leave as soon as the Coke 600 is over and fly straight to the islands. And you're getting on a boat. I didn't know you could rent yachts like that. Yeah. That's a good idea. Do you dock anyway? Do you dock anywhere? worried you stay out. We're going to cruise every night and wake up every day. We're going on a fishing boat one day.

Yeah, I can't fish because of my arm, but I'll still go on the fishing boat. What arm? Yeah, one arm fishing. I don't think I really am. Reel it in. Clint. You cruise at night, right, and they wake up the next day of the New Island. That's cool.

Yeah. That's pretty neat. No experience for me. I'm not a big hot weather guy. I like to snow ski. I don't like to be hot. Is that expensive? No, I'm probably not.

When I heard how much the tip. to the crew was going to be. I was like, hey, I can give you a couple hundred bucks on that, man. I can't help much. It's a lot. Yeah. Is it expensive? Yeah. Like, yeah.

Who all's going? I don't know. Me. You do know. Me? Are you taking his dad? I wish Bob's was going. Oh my gosh.

That's what I was open for. Hey, his brother, Casey, is another form of his dad. Yeah, his brother going? Essentially, we're taking his dad. Yeah, we're taking a younger version of his dad. What about, um, there, I don't want, we need to go on. I'll post some pictures here. Yeah, let me know how it goes.

It'll be fun. I'll be burned. I look like a lobster. Taking Eric Jones? Eric Jones isn't going. That's a shame. All right. Ask DBC.

Remember, you can submit your questions each week to on Twitter using the hashtag AskDBC. So three questions here for you guys. The first one is from at Kenyon Ryan. Send it a question that Justin Marks had tweeted. What is it going to take to change the business model? So a guy like Ross Chastain is driving a winning cup car. I don't know, man. It's going to take somebody that has an established team.

I don't know how about the business model is not going to change anytime that quick, that soon. You know, it's going to take somebody that has an established team and they're going to have to sell Ross to a sponsor. I mean, it's not, Ross doesn't have the funding himself to go higher up into competitive rides. Do I think Ross can drive in the higher series? I absolutely think you can drive up there, but it's going to take somebody that has a dedicated sponsor that might, if Ross hangs around long enough and keeps doing this, he's going to find a ride because there's going to be some cars opening up

that have sponsors that are going to want a guy that can come in there and that can win. And that's what they want to do. So I think if Ross hangs around long enough, he gets an opportunity. Ross is coming on the show in a few weeks, the week of the Chicago race. And obviously we can ask him directly a lot of the things. that have gone on with his career. But Ross thought he had a full-time Xfinity ride with Gannasi. What a rollercoaster off-season.

Like if anyone had an off-season, he had an off-season. I mean, you go to a holiday party with D.C. Solar that Pitbull is playing at. And then the next week, D.C. Solar is completely under siege. Rated. And completely rated by the IRS and the FBI. Yeah. So obviously that tells you that business operations are shutting down. So he's out of a ride.

But Ross is in probably the best sponsorship scenario situation he could be in with Nutrient Act Solutions. They're an agriculture-based company. Ross is a watermelon farmer. Ross's family doesn't pay for his rights. Ross is out there making his own way in today's world. Man, that's hard to do. Like, I saw that picture of him in the tweet up.

He's out there in jeans and a car heart jacket. I saw him Saturday morning. I was eating in a restaurant. He walks in by himself. If you work hard in life, if you're a blue-collar person, this is your guy. Because there aren't any other blue-collar drivers out there right now in his age group. Now, yes, some of the older guys 100% they came up. You know, Clint was a detail shop guy.

in Kansas, and Emporia, Kansas, and he got the call from Richard Childers to come drive his arka car. Like, Clint's a blue-collar guy. He farms hay during the summer. Like, I mean, he loves that kind of stuff. But Ross at his age group, he's the only guy I know that actually gets up and works his ass off when he's not in a race car. And Hannah, you know a lot about Ross too.

I mean, he's a good guy, right? Yeah, and the cool thing is about, like, you know, you talked about him busting his butt to get those sponsors. When you see the watermelon car, people are like, oh, well, that's his family. It's not. What they do is they have the different agricultural places that get on the car. and then the whole protect your melon. He does that within each state's like DMV and that kind of stuff.

The safety driving. So it's actually the states that are putting up money for him to put this campaign. And so he's able to use those outlets. I think you'd be surprised at the amount of money that you think he has compared to what he really has. I know what he has. It's actually really incredible how they've managed. What he makes work with what, I mean, it's pretty incredible what he does. He's on his way to New York State today to do a protector of melon.

campaign and for what that campaign pays him versus what the work he puts in. Like, again, this guy is a good guy, hard driver, honored to be working with him this year, but this agriculture company, Nutriac Solutions is gigantic. And they see what the potential that he has on and off the track. Like, there couldn't be a better sponsor. It'd be like me getting a beer sponsor. And what a cool deal that it came to be with Elliott, too, how that all worked out. Like that was awesome on Elliott's part to see that, hey, I'm on my way out.

I don't want to come back in, but give someone a chance that deserves it. and then to pull Ross into it. That was super cool to see. Ross is going to replace a veteran at some point, I believe. He's going to replace a veteran, and he's going to step in. He's not a rookie that needs to be groomed. He's going to be ready to go. He races hard, man.

And he's going to be ready to race. And the performance level is going to be there. He's going to have a little bit of learning to do. When you get into a good card, you race differently. But he's going to have all the characteristics that he needs to be race there already. Yeah. Next question here for you. I laughed at this one.

read this at Yeti 330 asks where does your car chief go when ejected from a race? That's ironic. I watched my walk out with a backpack this weekend. I don't know where he went. He took the van keys and left. I saw him take the keys and leave. I guess, you know, a car chief. I'll tell you where I'd go. Where would you go to Hooters? Yeah. You were going to say that. There's a lot. So did I. I do that was coming. Realistically, you probably go to a restaurant or a bar near the racetrack. I mean, it is Sunday.

I could pick church. Saturday. But church is probably going to be over. Well, most time is Sunday. So given the church is over, I'm probably going to Hooters. You just go. You got to wait. You can't leave without the team.

So, I mean, you'll leave the racetrack. You got to come back. You're going to be there when it ends to pick them up or you're meeting me at the airport. You're not flying home alone on that plane. What do you think it does when they kick that guy out? I was not 100% sure. They were going to come in there and say you're losing your spotter this week. How do you know?

They get to pick who gets kicked out. Right. They get full. NASCAR does. Yes. NASCAR can pick a crew guy. They can pick a road crew guy. They can pick a Jackman.

They can pick a spotter. They can pick wherever they want. I'm not 100. I mean, I don't know. I mean, who's all on that list? Everybody. I mean, if y'all ever get ejected, I'm probably at the racetrack. I'll come spot.

I'm just saying that. I'm on the MRI broadcast. I need a D-D sweetheart. I don't need a sub. Oh, okay. Well. I'm not really surely, you know, this is really a, effective anyway by losing an engineer.

You don't really lose the engineer. They're going to still have contact. They're going to have communication away from the track. They're going to, I mean, there's text. There's so many ways. But when I saw the NASCAR guy come up there, I was like, oh, I'm just like, let's get interesting. I'm not, wasn't, you know, like, okay, they're going to boot me out.

But you never know. I mean, never know. You never know. That'd be interesting. This Twitter handles Silver Fox. I forgot the X. Okay, perfect. So the Silver Fox 24 asks, what do you think the All-Star Race format should be?

I propose we black flag last place every five laps, like a process of elimination. She wants an elimination race. I don't think that's very good. And I'll tell you why. Because I've noticed with this package, cars get shuffled back a little bit, and the back cars boost other cars up. You know, fifth place falls back a little bit, gets the seventh place guy or six, where's right behind him, gets to his bumper, shoves him back up to the next guy. If we lose that, we might lose some of the runs that people can get.

I don't, I know what you're saying by eliminating Alaska. I'm making everybody go, these guys are already racing hard. Nobody wants to be last. I've already said what I think it should be a couple years ago on this show. The trucks are already in town. Xfinity Series is off. I want the 10 best cars from all three series, the 10 winningest drivers from all three series out there at the same damn time.

And let them run a hundred lap race. and whoever wins in each class is going to get, you know, whatever money and whatever they win. And if you, for whatever reason, beat the class above you, could you imagine an Xfinity car right now going around a cup car in an All-Star race for the real win? Like, give them like $2 million. Like, they could, I want to see something crazy. What if you make drivers eligible from other series if you win a race? I think that's cool.

Like, if you had one exhibition race that you could, like, win a truck race and qualify for the All-Star race in the Cup Lice. So that's cool. You know, you take all the winners from that year that would have been eligible in a cup series, all the truck, any of, but if you want a truck race, Johnny Sauter is eligible. Yeah. You know, if you won. You just need a half million dollars to come play. Well, I'm saying, but some of the teams might be willing to take a risk on that and put them in a car, especially with this package.

Yeah. I mean, you take the 32 car. Take Tyler Redick. Would you put, I don't know, Johnny Sauter in the 32, or the 95 cup car, would you put Johnny Sauter in and take Dimmendette? out for an all-star race. Absolutely. Given that he's eligible. That's what I'm saying.

I would. Absolutely. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Make these guys eligible. We've been doing the show four years and you finally have a good idea. I know, man. Wow. What if he's been waiting?

Out. Time. He knows I'm kidding. Time. I mean, I think that'd be cool. That's different names. I'll say this. I think Johnny Sauter's going to go for it?

Hell yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give me Johnny Sauter. That's right.

Hell, give me Riley Herps. What a douchebag. Come on now. All right, we'll include the Arka. He's a winner. He's won something. Has he? Has he? Yeah, he's won something.

Hattney? Yeah, he won. He won a D-Bag award. Congratulations. You're eligible to come to the all-star rates. Yeah. With your car owner, hand a new house. Oh, let it rip, man.

Let's just let that happen. Oh, all right. So opening it up for a rant. I feel like you guys ranted the entire spot-on, spot-off. You're never going to live that down. Ever. No. I know.

Never going to live it. I just own it big time. Like change Twitter handle. Hand a D-bag. A.F. Oh, yeah. Jeff Gluck's A-F is really funny, by the way. Oh, my gosh.

I saw that. His Twitter handle is, obviously, his Twitter handle, but his name is Jeff Gluck. A-F. Gosh, that was funny. I laugh. I literally laugh every time I see it. I do, too. I saw it.

I was like, no way. That's pretty good. That is really good. Yeah. We're not doing DBC picks, but we're going to pick for fun. It's how we're doing, Jason. Yes. I hope Clint Boyer wins to help him pay for this yacht.

he's renting. Oh, man. For All-Star? I think Kevin Harvick is the guy to beat. He won it last year. He dominated Saturday. By one spot. Holla. Strong. That is unreal. Strong, player. Who you going with? Harvick. Yeah, that's going to... I mean, Pinsky and J.G.R. You know what? I will go with...

Who do you think I'm going to pick? The two of the 22. Nope. Chase Elliott. Wow. Remember, TJ, it's just anybody. It doesn't have to be so many of available. I'm picking Chase Elliott. Okay, just checking. It's just for fun. America's most popular driver.

Whose opinion doesn't matter. Go sit back in a corner, Chase. We don't care what you got to say. Chase is angry after that, after that weekend after that. He's going to come out. It should be. Strong. Ready to go.

Jason, did you like my movie? Wedding Crashers is awesome. That's a great movie. That was so funny. That was my favorite one so far. Where have you been? Because I picked it. Where have you been?

Well, I like Owen Wilson's one of my favorite actors and Vince Paul. I'm like them together. It's just incredible. What was your favorite line in the movie? Dude, there's so many one-liners in that? Well, there was one When Chase tweeted something Big Tree Fall Hard, that was in this.

I was like, ah, I got it. I know where that's from. So that was funny. Yeah. There was a lot of good stuff. There's a lot of quote. It was like, come and keep out. Do you know what I was talking about when he got shot in the back?

Yeah. By the shotgun now. Claire, for me, the girl in the movie. She's hot. Yeah, she's hot. Yeah, she's super hot. Yes. Yeah.

What's her real name? I don't know. Claire Griffin. That's not in your review, Jason. You didn't give us all the actor names? Oh. But, but Claire, me in this movie and literally, I mean, this is just my perspective on life.

Like, people always say girls are attracted to guys who are buttholes to them. And she was in this movie. And I think girls who attracted to buttholes are idiots. If you're with a guy that treats you poorly, get a new f***ing guy. It's not that hard. We're rannie. Here's the rant. And when you watch a guy and when you're around a guy, if he treats his mother or his sister poorly,

then he's going to treat you poorly because those are the two most important females in his life. So as a female, if you're out there and you're living your life and you're with Hannah's favorite word, a D-bag, then drop the D-bag and get a new guy. Dating advice brought to you by Dorman for Clear. Well, this movie, it just shows that it's real. I mean, that guy was a little over the top for the movie, but I mean, that movie is hilarious. I can't believe you've never seen it. If you're a woman or female and you need love advice, tweet me, hit me up. Please, I want to love this.

24-7. But if you're dating a guy that's a f***, get a new guy. Who you dating, Hannah? Who am I dating? Are you dating anybody? Yeah. How are you?

Oh, who, who? Oh, here we go. High spot. Dylan Welch. You know who that is? Oh, do you know who that guy is? I don't know when. Vince's kid?

Yeah. I don't know him, but I know him on Twitter. That's what I know him from, too. Yeah. Is he a good guy? He is a good guy. His dad's a good guy. His dad's a good guy, too, yeah.

Is he nice to his mother and sister? He is nice to. He's got two sisters, too. Is he sweet to them? Yes. So how'd this start? Where'd you guys meet? Was it romantic?

Are we going to, like, crack into my dating life right now? Yeah. Yeah. So actually, no, listen, I met him last year right before I got hired at MRN, and he works at MRN too. So then I got hired, so I quit dating him because I was totally scared I was going to lose my job. And then I guess I came to my senses like a year and a half later. So here we are.

Good for you. Yep. Congratulations. Thank you. I got rid of the other. Do you all like sit around? I got rid of the other douchebags. And see?

Congratulations. I took your advice. Do you all sit around and role play like your own radio together? No. Y'all don't practice. No, but those like, they do, he just dumb stuff like, caution all the time in the house. I'm like, really? Can we not?

Who were the others? Huh? Okay, we're not going there. What? Uh-huh. You can name a couple. No, I can't. No, you can.

No, we're good. You already can't get much worse than what you did. What's my next movie? Oh. Thank you, Jason. Whatever, Jason. Trying to help. Meet the fuckers.

That's a good one. What's a movie where they, go to college and you have like the one guy is like the main guy it's hilarious has he seen any of the national lampoons no not road trip oh national lampines are good van wilder yeah that's good one or pulp fiction i think jason likes my movies i don't think he's gonna like pulp fiction no that's no how about the one where that damn guy is uh in the ocean by himself tom hanks castaway right surely he's seen castaway he's seen castaway he's never heard of castaway wilson oh my gosh you've never seen capuched I don't think so. That's a good one, too. Oh, my God. Watch it with a girl.

I've never done drugs, but for me to do that movie again, I would need drugs. Castaway? Oh. That's not my kind of movie. It's like that movie where those two people are stuck in the ocean where they're going to, you know what's going to happen. They're going to die. Sharks are going to eat them. They're going to hypothermia.

Yeah, that's. I don't remember the name of that. I'm not good with remembering names of movies. Titanic. You're not watching Titanic. You're not watching Titanic. That's not a bit. Titanic sad, man.

That lady put. pushed him down, made him drown. Gosh, you should watch the notebook, Jason. It's highly entertaining, comical. We need to give him a chick flick that'll make him cry. Have you got a girlfriend, Jason? Nah. The notebook.

Well, you and some guys can watch a chick flick. How do you not cry at the end of the notebook? Yeah. I like the notebook. How do you not cry at the end of it? I don't remember it. What happened? I can't tell you right now.

Oh, I screw it up. I mean, I'm sure I've seen it. I cried to the... It's like a guy... It's like a guy... What's that guy from home alone? Oh, the, yeah. What is it?

It's like after a flower. I was on a first date with a girl. And we're sitting in the movie theater. I was probably like 14, 15, whatever. And this movie comes on. I'm like, she wants to go see it. I'm like, all right, let's go see it. First date, I am crying like a little b-h.

Just crying my eyes out. I'm like, she's never going to go out with me again. That damn, those bees stung to death. My girl. My girl. Yeah. Man, that's sad. The notebook, the guy is all about the girl,

the entire movie. And then they end up together and they get old. But they're together as they're really old. And then she flips out and doesn't remember him and like, get away from me. Like she is. Yeah. See, I thought 50 first dates was a really sweet movie.

I went to the place in Hawaii. Yeah. I went to Hawaii and I made a point to go find the Hukilau Cafe. You did? I did. So it's a real thing? It's a real place. Yep, I went to the Hukilau Cafe and had breakfast.

I love that movie. They served spam. Yeah. I love Drew Barrymore, though. Me too. Adam Sandler. That's funnier in hell. I've been around him a couple of times.

You've seen that, right? No. That needs to be. He's super sheltered. He hasn't seen anything. That's why we're doing this. I'd almost just roll a castaway. Or, uh, yeah.

Somebody pick one. That's... Meet the Fockers. I've heard of that one before. Do that one. I want to, you gotta spike those, Focker. Yeah, that's a good one. You'll laugh.

All right. I really can't believe you haven't seen that one either. I haven't seen anything. What's the other good one with, uh, Stifler? Oh, American Pie? Yeah, we got to do that one too, Jason. American Pie. Remember when that guy was shaving?

Oh, and he throws it over the balcony? They had the wedding cake down there and he threw his pubs out the window. God, that was awful. Wasn't that American Pie? Yeah, it's the warm apple pie. Sick. How many people you think tried that? Ew.

Hey, which one was a movie? We got a bleeder? We got a screamer. What was it? I don't know. Is that rated for this show? God. It was the guy that got a zipper issue.

What's his name? Ben Stiller. Is that a 40-year-old virgin? I think it's something about Mary. Is that where they rip his chest hair out? I think it's something about Mary. Forty-old version is good too. Something about Mary has Cameron Diaz in it.

And then 40-year-old virgin has him too in it. I think it's something about Mary. We got some good ones here going on. 40-year-old version, when they rip his chest hair out, oh, my God. And he's all patchy. They said that was real. Like they really did it? Yeah.

Like he really did it. And it was screaming like, oh my God. Sure. Sorry. We got sidetracked. Yeah. Well. Jason,

glad you liked the movie. I feel like that was, yeah. It's a good movie. Vince Vaughn's hard to beat. He's the funniest human being I've ever been around in real life. I would say Vince Vaughn and that group right there, man. Like stepbrothers guy, whatever his name is, is hilarious. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a good group. So, all right. Racing for a million. Cool. A million? A million? A million bucks? Not to the spotter.

Yeah. How much you're going to get if your guy wins a million bucks? A pat on the back. I'm getting a trip on a yacht either way. That's true. Yeah. Well, it'll be paid for us. If you come to Charlotte, lots to do in the area.

Obviously, race shops, Hall of Fame downtown. Junior Motorsports is here. A lot of cool stuff you can see. A lot of things you can put your hands on. It's racing related. We love going to this racetrack. I mean, every time I pull into there, I remember going there as a kid and camping on.

on the infield and having a good time. And it's a fun week in Charlotte because everybody's real chill. You know, if you see guys in the garage, they're more chill than they will be at the 600. So if you're a fan, you're in this area, come check us out. It's cool. We do it better than anybody else does it for All-Star. I really wish, though, I had an idea that we'd have these guys guest bartend

downtown at the epicenter, and I'll take them into bars. And like, we should do that on Thursday night. Be fun. Let me know. I'll go bar hopping with you. Hollop. Hala. You sure?

Can you handle that? No. I can't. Freddie always tries to get me to go out drinking when we're on the weekends, which, by the way, apparently Freddy's like my manager, because you text me was like, hey, what are you doing? Can you come in on Monday? And I was like, yeah, sure, got it all set up.

And then later, Freddie texted me was like, hey, can you come in on Monday? And I'm like, dude, are you going to be there too? And he goes, 50 bucks if you say yes to that's not good. No, that's not good. So is that the radar? TJ's looking at his phone and I'm on Instagram. I'm on the gram. All right.

All right. Thanks for listening. Hannah, thank you for coming on. Yeah. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate you. See you. Hello.

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