Door Bumper Clear - 138 - Jumping Off Boats and Chugging Champagne

Episode Date: June 3, 2019

Brett returns from Clint Bowyer’s birthday on a yacht and joins TJ, Casey, and Jason to discuss the lack of passing at Pocono, Kyle Larson vs Clint Bowyer, racing being a mind game now, hybrid race cars, best dad jokes, pickup lines and more. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Hey, everybody. I am T.J. Majors. And we have a special guest today. I'm back. This is what you used to do to me when I would miss a show. I forgot what the studio looked like. I tell you what, though, this table, it didn't get any smaller while I was gone. It did not. You know how many people could sleep on this table?

What? Yeah. How many do you think, Casey? I mean, it depends on the size. If we're talking my size, maybe four. Four? Four. Four.

Four. Four. Oh, my gosh. Well, if I'm like in a ball. 28 if we doubled up. Four, more than four you could fit right here. I'm probably, the table is probably, you guys are the worst. The table is probably, uh,

Mathematical equation. Taller than me. If I were to like lay on it, it's taller. So you're going to midget week this week. How many midgets can fit on this table? Welcome back. Right. What's up?

How you been, Jason? How's college? You're out for the summer? Yeah, college is over. Yeah. Just to get all his jokes in now. Jason couldn't fit a lot of people on this table because Jason's tall. How tall are you, Jason?

Six, two. Oh, I want to hear all about this trip. Yeah. Your vacation problem's trip. Well, my biggest vacation problem I didn't tweet about because I didn't really know how to say it, but I have severely injured my ass. Like I have a, I have a. Well.

And I still don't know how to explain it, but I jumped off the top of the boat was about 30 foot off the water. Oh, that's a long way. Oh, yeah, apparently. So I jumped off the top. That's three stories. And when I jumped off the top, you went butt first. I did. Oh!

And I didn't really realize it because I was kind of scared, you know, because it was at night. There were sharks all around the boat, and that's a true story. I mean, I got pictures of the sharks. So when I hit the water, pow, and I was like, God, it felt like. See water again. Water. You ever seen Rick Flair smacks somebody on the chest? Like with a slap. I felt like he slapped my ass. Well, I was like, that's kind of funny. The next morning I woke up and I have severely injured the bottom of my tailbone. Like, my ass hurts. Bruised. Legitimilar hurts. Is that why you're sitting slanted right now?

Casey, it hurts. I don't think people understand how hard water is. Wow. Like it's, oh, yeah, jump into a pool. Yeah, you don't feel anything. You get about 15 feet up. That's when it's third. it's getting serious. I saw a guy, ironically, we were out in Clint's area, jump off the side of this house into a lake, and it was probably 40, 50 feet. Yeah. I got up there and I'm like, I'll do it up. Yeah, I'm not doing it. Not happening. I did it at night, and I thought it was funny, and then I woke up the next morning, and I'm on a doubt about day five of my ass killing me. I mean, it truly, for people that have ever sat on those donut-looking things, like that I've made fun of my whole life. I'll never make fun of them again. I wish I had a donut thing.

You can get those at Walgreens, yeah. But otherwise, man, it was fun. We flew in the Nassau. We jumped on a boat. We swam with pigs. We swam with sharks. We bruised our asses. And it was a really chill, chill time, to be honest with you. I will say this, though. They busted out some bottles of crystal for the birthday party. You said you stray wasted them. Someone really wealthy was bringing those. It wasn't me. and I grabbed them and started chugging them like Stone Cold. I had one in each hand. Boom.

And he's like, hey, there's things are like $2,500 a piece. I'm like, good, take my picture. That was probably the highlight of my trip. Hurt my ass and chugging champagne like Stone Cold. Yeah, I mean, it sounds pretty amazing. And the pictures of the water and stuff look on real. I'm telling you, every human in America, well, I guess all over the world. We won't hold this exclusive to Americans.

Every person needs to see the Exumas. It is absolutely gorgeous. I had no idea. I'm not a big warm weather guy. I don't like to sweat. I don't like to be hot. I don't like to lay on a beach. That's not my idea of fun.

I like winter sports, water sports, right? It is so freaking pretty. I told T.J., like he's got to get his stuff right, get his resources in order and go down there, man, because it is freaking gorgeous. I own so much of Disney right now. It's going to be hard for me to get to the exhumous, knowing that I don't even know what my wife has spent.

at Disney already this year probably. I don't want to know either. Where is the Exumas geographically? It is in the southern part of the Bahamas, so about 100 miles south of Nassau. So did you stay on the boat? So you could fly from Fort Lauderdale directly to the Exumas, a small runway, or you can fly to Nassau and get on a boat and go down there. Yeah, you said you went to the Atlantis too, and you ended up there at the last day or something?

Yeah, went to the Atlantis, which I've had a lot of people speak highly of. Did you walk through the aquarium and stuff there? We did, yeah. Yeah. Did you go down any slides? Did not. The big slide was closed. Plus, my ass was already hurting. Well, they got the straight down slide there. I couldn't have slipped down anything. The one that came out of like the cave, the straight down, it was closed.

Yeah, that's the one that went through the sharks and stuff? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's awesome. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. You get on that water side and there's like the shark tanks on both sides of you, and it's kind of neat. I wonder what it was closed. It's cool. The Atlantis is fun. You didn't go in there and throw any bets down? I did. I actually won a few hundred dollars at the cove.

I went over the cove and gambled a little bit by the pool. The Cove's nice. Cove's right next to the Atlantis, basically, right? Clinton, I bought in, and he was losing, and I was losing, and he ran out of money. No, not really. And I wasn't out of money yet. Yeah, he was out of money. Trust me.

At this point, he was dug. Well, you drank most of it, or poured most of it down. So then I got hot, and I won some money. Man, it's fun playing blackjack. That's one of my favorite things to do. I love it. Are those games rigged? No.

No. You want to play one-on-one to have a chance to win, though. More people to sit at that table or the more of the house has an opportunity to win. I mean, it's not you versus everyone else either. So you versus the dealer, Blackjack, no matter what, right? Yeah, but the dealer just has a lot more opportunity to win if it's multiple players. The house is going to win. Yeah.

More players that sit down. Most of the time, not every time. Well, the house wins almost. House wins. They don't build all that stuff off losers. The house doesn't lose much. Even when you win, the house still won against the others pretty much. 100%.

If they're not busting, yeah, you're losing. Yeah. So it's still fun, though, for sure. Pocono. Probably not as fun. Yeah, how hard it was to leave it. like Zuma's go to Pocono. Yeah, you couldn't have picked a

I mean, heart-shaped bathtub. Where'd you stay? At the Pocono Village, right there across my track. Oh, so you were close, too. Yeah, it was awesome. I love that part of it, man. It's a cool little area over there. Do you have a heart-shaped bathtub?

Weather was awesome all weekend. We were all scared to death for Sunday. It looked horrible at first, and I was dreading the weekend, and now it was probably the best weather, I think we've had in a while. Where do you hide? I saw Casey this weekend. I never see her. She works at the track.

We work on the roof. I know, but I mean, I would think that... I'm usually infielder in a suite. How come you don't... If you're in a suite, how come you don't just pop up and say hi sometimes? How come you don't text us a suite number? That too. I mean, you guys, you know my job, right?

Do you know what they do? No. What do you do? I know. What do you do is text us. I know. I agree with that. You can automatically assume if I'm at the track, I am working a lot.

You can automatically assume that we're on a roof and it's 100 degrees and we're dying. You guys are always welcome. We don't. I don't even know what a sweet number you're in. So how can we go? Michigan, I will text you to the sweet number. TJ, you're welcome at my house, but I'm not going to tell you where I live. Yep.

I did see Brett, though. Come over anytime. I'm not giving you my address. I mean, it would be nice to, like, if you're near the roof or something and we're between parades or something, just, hey guys. Okay, I will. We can take a quick picture on the roof for the show, maybe. Friday.

You know where we are more than we know where you are, I promise you. I'll take a saviche and a mick old. after practice. I'll bring it up to you. No, I want to come where you're at. I'd share a Coke with you. Have you had track food before? Yeah.

I actually, a funny story about track food this week, just totally off topic for a second. I'm going to watch six finney race down in turn one from the infield to see what it looks like. And Coleman Presley watches it from the roof the beginning of it,

and then I go to pick him up and take him down the turn one. He comes walking up with the car and he's got this big plate of barbecue fries like it's french fries with cheese and barbecue all over it and I'm like jalapino something like look that looks good but I'm not touching it though thank you so we get he finishes it off and near the end of the race I left and he stayed there and I guess he set the plate up on top of the car for a second

and the wind took it and it blew it right back on it and he wore most of what was left on there and I guess a couple other guys that he was riding with after the race They had a way for him to go and basically get all the cheese sauce and barbecue off his face and stuff. I got on his face? Face, clothes, everything. That's awesome. Yeah, I know.

What an idiot. Come on, Coleman. Can't be doing that. All you are you hardcore fans, man. Coleman is Robert Presley's son. Yeah. Coleman did some racing. I think he actually ran a race for Junior Motorsports, didn't he?

I spotted it for him. Yeah. I think he ran a little, what, Darlington? No, he ran a few races. Yeah. I spotted for him in Nashville. and we spun out off of turn two on like the second lap and I think we were passing

we were racing with Brad I think we were inside Brad off turn two on the old on the concrete Nashville deal and he spun out we joke about it once in a while but Coleman now spots for Brad and they got a they have a family owned hot dog shop

they do in Asheville in Asheville yeah and we went there on the way of the NFL draft this last year we stopped up there and saw them guys it's really you go in that place I don't know. Do we talk about it? No. You go in that place and it's all like Robert Presley, like, racing memorabilia and stuff.

And so I'm mowing in there and I'm like looking at the prices and the prices are like a dollar 50 or $1.60 for a hot dog. It's like I got like two hot dogs fries and a drink for like five, six bucks. Like blown out of it, blown. What was the name of it? Oh, man. Great advertising here. Can't even think of my name. Famous hot, hot dogs or something like that?

Oh. It's really cool. I mean, it's a... Are you trying to sell the place? Because right now, they need to know the name in order to go there. I can't, honestly... All that money, Colma gave you. Celebrity.

The hot dogs. Celebrity hot dogs. Celebrity hot dogs? Yeah. That's what it is. Celebrity hot dogs. Yeah. Asheville.

Asheville. They serve beer? I don't know. Probably bring one. It should be Y-O-B. Yeah. But it's a cool place, man. It's got a lot of old racing stuff in it from him and family-owned and family-owned, family-run.

Really cool place. Robert still works. there some he's in and out of there i guess they're i guess they're he only lives like a couple minutes from there yeah um i uh we talked about the off season there we went on that that cruise with him and i actually had a really good time talking to robert he he he's this the stories them guys know from yeah the stories them them racers from that that era know them drivers from that era i mean it's pretty it's awesome yeah so polka no jiff fun me yeah yeah I saw you get smoked on the outside and three one time.

I had two series. I had to work. Man, I had to do Xfinity car. I had to do a cup car. I worked hard, man. Yeah. Worked four hours on Friday. Worked about four hours on Saturday.

Worked about four hours on Sunday. Let's be honest. We worked for about three minutes at the beginning of a run. Yeah. And then it was just, I mean, it's tough. I guess we're getting ready to get into that. I'm really excited that, and obviously the weather has to hold on for this to work as well as we all need it to work.

logistically trying to run four races. A doubleheader deal next year. But man, for the fans, I don't think there's a better value because you only have to have hotel or lodging for two or three nights to see all these races. And I think value-wise, there won't be a better date on the NASCAR schedule. Now, listen to me, the racing yesterday was it boring? Absolutely. It was as boring as I've ever seen it there.

But we got a lot of things we can fix, a lot of things to improve between now and going back there. I know Steve O'Donnell and his guys saw the same race I did, and I'm sure they're going to make some tweaks to make the racing better. The fans deserve it. But listen to me, next year, if you live within 400 miles of that place, that's a freaking race to go to. Go up there and get you a good.

That's the weekend. That's the weekend to go to. Yeah, Calahari Resorts is there. There's tons of big hotels. I would say the Snooney Series race was actually exciting. I thought it was really good. The numbers. A hell of a show.

The numbers weren't that much different than a regular polkao race. We know when it's harder. We have a really good feel for when it's harder. We see our cars get close to other cars and the air, what the air does to it. We see that probably more than people do on TV. And it was noticeably harder from our point of view. But the numbers weren't that far off, all their Pocono races. The lead changes.

Yeah, but when you have, I mean, that's the thing, man. People say lead changes. And some of these media people get caught up in that. When you pit under green, the fucking lead is going to change every time the leader pits. And then the next guy's going to lead. And then guess what? By the time you have 17 or 18 guys, like the lead changes. If you have a green flag pit cycle, you're going to have a lot of lead changes.

You're going to have a few of that. You're going to have three or four of that. And we had a couple or three green flag stops yesterday. But that's every poking on race. So statistically, man, I don't know that you can say whatever. I know the race that I saw yesterday was a lot different than any race I've ever seen there. It was hard. The lap time stayed the same.

Nobody could pass. I mean, they even interviewed Kyle Busch after the race. And they said, Kyle, you said you wouldn't be able to pass. And I mean, you passed all these cars and you won the race. And he was like, well, actually, I only passed one. Yeah, you. Which was me. Yeah.

And I was sitting there thinking, I was like, man, he's telling the truth. Like, he only, I only got passed once all day. He, he, I mean, he honestly made a few, not many. I mean, it was single-digit passes probably, but not like, you just couldn't do a lot. You couldn't do a lot. But that's Pocono, kind of. I mean, honestly, we're going to get right back to what we think is the problem anyway, probably. Yeah.

I mean, but one thing about, like you said, you know, like you said to Calahari, I asked, Because Jason Jarrett used to have it on his car, right? Yeah. As a sponsor. And I've stayed there before. I wonder why they don't bring a tour bus in there after the races. You know what I mean? I would say bring a big-ass water slide to the racetrack.

Or set something up. Like, it's not that far from the track. It's like 15 minutes, 20 minutes in the track. Yeah. Why not after the day's activities or whatever? You offer a bus to come get families and kids for... Take them over there. Yeah.

And be a part of the racing weekend. Hey, you can go to the Calahari for four hours. and swim for a little bit and then come back. We'll shuttle you in and out. Meet Dale Jr. Meet you. Meet Rodney Childers. He was tweeting for me.

Yeah. Rodney was, yeah. But I mean... Think you likes that place. It is a cool place, man. But why not include the race fans? You know what I mean? Like, make it easier, easily... Some of the people, when they get there to camp, they can't leave.

It's still amazing to me that you can build something like that in the absolute middle of nowhere. Middle nowhere. You know? People go to it. They do. We stayed at a resort. They will come.

We stayed at a resort. A little bit further away, but it had like a luge. Really? Yeah. Like something you slide down, like really down the mountain. I got a picture of a luge my buddies did the other day on the lake. Did you see that in the video? No.

Oh, yeah. I'll shut out of that. I'll shut out of the deal. See, the luge you did off the side of that boat. That wasn't a luge. That was a jump. So you didn't even cannonball. No, man.

I just recklessly drunkenly jumped off the boat. Key word drunkenly. Yeah. That was a fishing boat we went on. Is that thing's sick or what? nice. Like Kimmy Rikinen. Yeah.

In Monaco, remember that video? Shall we spot on, spot off? He's spot off that. Spot on you like it. Spot off, you don't like it, and you say why either way. Hamlin said it was impossible to pass at Pocono. I'll give it to you, Brett, since you are clearly. Focused.

Yeah. I don't, I mean, spot on. I mean, the guy's assessment is right. I mean, I think we went from difficult to pass at Pocono to impossible to pass at Pocono. There was once a car that I ran down, I was a half second faster than they were, and once I called them, it was over. Like you couldn't make a move, you couldn't do anything, you couldn't get a run to their bumper. It just was very frustrating. I mean, I flew home with Clint last night, and he finished fifth, had a great race, led some laps. He was as frustrated

as I've ever seen him, just over the fact that how the race racing was, you know what I mean? So I think when you see and hear guys that are getting out of the car and telling the truth about how they feel and it wasn't pleasant you know even guys that ran well i think that means that we need to see some some more changes here on this thing yeah i mean he's not wrong it's kind of hard to spot off him when he when he's right um it's really hard to pass the only time restarts were it man you had to go on restarts and very rarely did you run somebody down and get around him if you got around him it took the majority of a run and most time it only happened because they got held up by a lap car or something.

Are you saw guys screw up turn one yesterday? They'd kind of get in there and shoot up the track, you know? Yeah, but there wasn't even that much of that. There was a little bit, but it's going to come down to the same thing. We didn't, there's not enough, there wasn't enough fall off in the tires for the drivers to be handling, have handling issues. When you got cars pitting after running almost a full fuel run and only taking two tires, they're not soft enough.

Like, in my opinion, they're just not, you don't have it, you got them. There has to be some sort of, you know, fall off. So you have the comers and goers. You've got guys that can, they're having handling issues. When the tires fall off and the cars become harder to drive, guys make mistakes. Yeah. That creates passing. Yeah.

You got a 50-lap run on that 20 we pitted. A lot of guys got two. So at the end of stage one, they essentially had 45 green flag laps on their tires, on their left-side tires. I mean, you're talking 100 miles on their tires, and they were able to win the stage. They were able to do what they wanted to do. and it just came down to what T.J. and I were saying, like, you could not pass. It's kind of the opposite of Charlotte. I thought Charlotte was pretty good. We had some self-you weren't here when we talked about it. We had some self-induced tire failure.

Tire failure. Yeah, which made an exciting, stage one. Yeah, but, I mean, that was, Goodyear brought a great tire. It wasn't Good Year's fault those tires blew at all. And I think Goodyear builds great tires. But we just need one that we can race with. They build them. They build them too great. Yeah, they're too good. I mean, I'm going to put some of my street car and never change them. Yeah. Next one. Kislauski says current arrow package makes racing less challenging than it has ever been. Spot on, spot off, T.J.

I mean, he's the driver. I'm not driving it, so I wouldn't know. But I don't see a lot of mistakes. It's definitely more of a mind race. Like strategy, not strategy like pit strategy, but more like, okay, should I pass this guy or I'll wait a corner. there's not the there's not the okay well i can see clince up there just driving the heck out of the thing and wearing the stuff out i'm going to wait back here for 10 laps i'm going to drive right by him there's none of that um it's just different you know it's different it's not it's not um they're not fighting the cars they're not fighting the cars at all now the fact that he said this is

spot off for me you know you don't want a driver saying that it's less challenging which means that it's easier to drive these cars but when you see guys qualify William Byron entered the tunnel turn at 180 miles an hour, and he came out of the tunnel turn at 178 miles an hour. That meant he used no break, which means that he went through there virtually wide open, and two miles an hour worth of speed is all that was scrubbed off. So if he's able to do that, that takes more balls and it takes talent. And I think what Brad is saying here is it's easier to drive these cars. And, I mean, we've been saying that all year. So I'm not surprised by his comment.

I'm spot on for his comment. I'm just spot off for the fact that this is kind of what we're dealing with right now. But again, I still feel like tweaks are being made, observations are being made, things are going to keep getting better to. I think we're on the right path. They wanted the cars to, and here's the thing. They always said, we want the cars to run closer together. Well, we are, but we're not passing one another. I want to see cars be able to pass one another.

That's called a race. They've got us closer together. We just can't do anything. We can't do quite enough yet when we're closer together. You know, the cars, we're going, we're going, I mean, we're going a little bit slower. We really, I mean, we've really migrated to an IndyCar look and feel. The cars are slammed on the ground. The guys are wide open in the gas.

They've got tons of downforce that keeps them, you know, on the track. It's extremely difficult to pass. I mean, I'll never forget the first time I heard Indy cars were going to Richmond. I was like, this is going to be amazing. And I turned the TV on and I watched the race and they didn't pass all night because they were going too damn fast in the center of the corner. And I was like, wow, I really screwed up what I thought was going to happen here. Our package is racing a lot like Indy Cars race.

Yeah, I just, we keep getting them. We're lower to the ground than we ever been throughout the whole car. We're lower to the ground than we ever been. And I'm not an arrow guy or an engineer or anything, but I'm just. No, but we can see them slam to the earth. I know they're on the ground. And I watch, there's a couple of Instagram accounts that I follow. And I know you're not a big Instagram guy, but they always post, um,

like NASCAR or nostalgia or stuff like that. And some of these races, these cars aren't even close to being on the ground. And, I mean, we got the car slandering on the ground. We got this huge rear spoiler. So to me,

that leaves zero error behind you for a guy to actually make a corner. So. Yeah. And if the tires aren't wearing out and you're just slot car racing the whole time. I mean, we got to make the car slide.

We got to get them off the ground a little bit. That's the analogy that none of us want to hear that I keep hearing, the one you just said, slot car racing. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I think we're on the right path. I like how we're closer together.

There's more, like, Corey Lajoy finished 12th at Charlotte, the 32 car. That's impressive. So. Attrition. Yeah, but I mean, he still had to, that's a long race, man. He did. Stayed on the lead lap. 400 laps.

Would you, at the beginning of that race, would you said that 32 car was going to finish on the lead lap? No. Not until we saw the Gibbs car start blowing tires. And then you're like, well, I mean, one of them still won with a blown tire. Yeah. After blowing tire. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. slowing it still. Larson hits the wall and finishes P-26 after sliding in front of Boyer off turn one on final restart. Of course, Brett, spot on spot off. Y'all hit against the thing, man. I'm a huge Kyle Larson fan.

Like, I truly love watching that guy. Apparently, I am too. No matter what he's racing in, I like to watch Kyle Larson race, but he wrecked us in Charlotte. So we were coming off of two, and I'm sure y'all talked about this last week, but Joy Lugano and Alex Bowman had a little bit of a problem right in front of us off, too. Bowman thinks that Ligano was trying to wreck him, and Lugano was probably just being Lugano. I've never seen a guy get swung at more than Joy Ligano get swung at. So I know which side I'm taking on this argument.

I don't know. Clint threw a lot of punches in about three seconds. He threw punches. He didn't get swung at. He swung on. Yeah. But my point is Kyle Larson knew if we cleared him, he was not going to get us back, because it's hard to pass. He throttled up, lost control of his car, and complied.

Completely wiped us out. Right? So then this week, fast forward. The guy wins stage one. He wins stage two. We're passing him for fifth on a restart. Same deal. He knows if he clears us, we're not going to pass him back.

He's not clear. Oh, he cleared you. He's not clear. He cleared you. He was in front of you. He's not clear, and he got wrecked. The cars were straight like this. That's not what I saw.

But I haven't seen a replay. I didn't see it when it happened. I just saw a replay. I saw it was when it happened. And I went down to Derek and I was like, what happened right there? Is it two weeks in a row you're going to wreck me? And Derek was like, man, I promise I was saying still outside, still outside. He cleared himself.

I was like, well. Yeah, I don't think it was a spot where a spotter cleared. No. That was the one where the driver was trying to take it. I'm taking it up. I mean, man, spot off. I mean, you hate to see a guy like Kyle who's dug himself in a hole, have a day where he can really dig himself out, max points and completely screw it up by hitting the wall with, you know,

six, seven laps to go or whatever. was but for me i was like man i've got i run top five pretty much all day and you're going to screw me up so that last caution when freaking stenhouse blew that right front in the tunnel first of all i'm glad i wasn't riding with him because i looked painful i was going to run third until that happened you know what i mean so i mean it was going to be like hopefully larsen i was trying to wreck us i was going on 14th though that happened and i'm 7th you were uh yeah we took four 13th or 14th we took four there at the end. We should have taken two, I think, but we weren't that great all day. We were average. But I'm, and I'm not spot on for Larson hitting the wall, but I'm

spot on for a guy going for it. He, there's one of the cars out there that I consistently see making moves to slide jobs, kind of, and he, like you said, he knows if he gets there, but there's a risk involved with it, and he's willing to take that risk. He took it. And I'm, I'm spot on for a guy that's willing to put it on the line because he knows if he gets there, he's got you. Yeah. You know? Somebody tweeted me last night. They were like, Larson was 96% clear.

And I was like, that last 4% was a b-ha-ha. Yeah, I mean, that's the chance he takes. What if Clint hits him and just pushes him away a little bit? Or, I mean, that's the, but I took a chance. I like seeing the guy take a chance, man. That's better than the guy's like, oh, he got me, go ahead. I mean, I hate that people's cars get wrecked kind of, but. That's what racing is about.

They're racing, and he's trying, and I can respect that part of it. So spot on, spot off for the practice on Friday qualify on Saturday Cup weekend schedule, TJ. Spot on, I thought it went very smooth. Wasn't an over amount of practice like we've had in the past, I feel. I think it was easier on the crew guys. Crew guys actually, crew guys have the worst schedule of anyone throughout the weekend. I mean, they leave early. They're at the track long hours working on the cars.

Didn't the garage close at 12.30 on Saturday? That's awesome. Yeah, but normally they don't get a chance. Most of the garage closes and they barely have a chance to go back in time to get changed and go to dinner. It's nice. It's nice. And a lot of people didn't leave until Friday. You know, so it's another night at home for a lot of teams. And I thought it went smooth. It's the way of the future. You know, I had a conversation with a NASCAR official up on the roof who came out

for a little bit and shadowed with some of us and I was like hey Miller man I really like what you guys are doing with this schedule I feel like we're taking the weekend and letting it progress and build up to our big event on Sunday because you've got practice on Friday you've got two qualifying sessions and a race on Saturday and then your big event is on Sunday so the last thing to happen with your cup series was qualifying and I feel like sometimes when tj and I had our normal weekends you know we go in and practice and qualify on Friday and then we practice all day Saturday and then we race on Sunday like I feel like there's more momentum having qualifying being on right before the Xfinity race.

Hopefully it does two things. Hopefully it gets that cup fan that's watching Cup qualifying to stick around and watch Xfinity race. And maybe it gets that Xfinity racing fan, you know, an opportunity to dial in and watch the Cup race, but I really just like the fact that the last thing on track for Cup prior to the race was something very meaningful, which is qualifying. Because practice, is it meaningful? Yeah, but if you see the top 10, like that.

That doesn't always mean that's the top 10 fastest guys. I really like the fact that we took the qualifying conversation of being a complete shisho on Fridays with group qualifying, and we've turned it into a really nice methodical process, spot on for what they're doing here with us. Yeah, it's actually probably, it's been a positive deal. But, like, I think sometimes when we had those really early Saturday morning practices, it was too early for the fan, too, to be there.

You're there, you know, real early in the morning, I mean, at least there, at least when we start the qualifying a little bit later, they get there, and it's not an hour practice, an hour break, an hour practice, a break, and then a rate. I mean, it's just, I just feel like the weekends. TV ratings too, probably. Hopefully that looks better too, yeah. I think that's the big key there. We may see a lift on qualifying ratings.

I'm enjoying qualifying right now. Honestly, I'm enjoying watching the single car and seeing what guys do. I thought I was going to be more against it than what I am. I liked group qualifying just because it put, it puts, it puts, put the ball in our court in our hands a lot more. I just, man, you know, the key for me is they get a chance to tell each driver's story. Yeah, that's, I like that part of it. And they get a chance to highlight the driver's sponsor.

And it's not us sitting around. If we had a 30-minute qualifying session, the first 27 minutes, we were all sitting at the end of pit road looking like a bunch of clowns to go out and do whatever we were doing there. I'm being biased because I feel like we would qualify better. And there's a good chance you would have. But I just feel like, man, we're in the storytelling business and that single car qualifying. Man, I'm two big, big, big, big spot-ons for that. Love it.

TRD's David Wilson said hybridization and electrification of race cars is not if, but how and when. Spot on, spot off, Brett. This is coming. Yeah. This is coming real fast. I mean, this is part of what lowering the horsepower down to 550 is, if my sources are correct. And I was told that these manufacturers are really trying to expedite having all cars be hybrids by a certain year,

and they really want to align our race cars and our motor packages with that same thing. And, I mean, they were talking about different parts of the car generating heat to be able to add energy to the motor versus it being all, you know, gasoline. So it doesn't really matter if I'm spot on or spot off. It's coming. And, I mean, I guess it is what it is, right?

I think it's coming. But, man, I like to hear the cars go by. It's just part of it, man. staying by the fence and one of them things go by, it's hard not to, I mean, once, I guess we've grown up with it, so we're more into it, but I guess

younger crowd might not be into it as much, but when you go to a race for the first time and one of them cup cars would go by, man, you'd be like, wow, I mean, you get a, even at Bristol. When they'd crank them up to even leave for qualifying, you're like, wabab, blah, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, and even, like, even at Bristol,

when you stand by the fence at Bristol, and that's one of our slowest tracks, you're like, you know when a cup car goes by. Yeah. It's coming. Yeah. I mean, eventually, I don't know anything about it. So my source is sitting next to me.

I would, I mean, all we keep hearing is Gen 7. Yeah. I think it's Gen 7 relevance. I don't know if they get it done in time. But when you have a guy like this making a statement publicly, I mean. Oh, it's been talked about a lot. That's a big deal. I mean, we all know.

It's being talked about. We've heard rumbling. of it, but for him to come out publicly and say this, like Adam has to make you think that it's a big part of Gen 7, right? Otherwise, why would he say this? And Gen 7 is 2021? Yeah, 2021. 2021.

Yeah. We'll take a break and let you enjoy today's best of TBC moment from episode 103 after Clint Boyer's Michigan win last June. Clint went to the lake. He's at Lake of the Ozarks this week, which T. J's been there.

It is a wild, wild environment. Summertime there. So I facetim first and he said, I got to put my kids down. Give me a minute. And the next time he

FaceTime me, there was like a IV of fireball. It was in a bag. It was a bag of fireball that they were. I'll bet his dirt guys were back too.

And he was just given the, like the Tiger Woods fist pump and he was excited, man. That's the cool part. Did you see the flavored fireball? No. Where did I see that?

I thought they were all cinnamon. No. I swear I saw some flavored fireball. I don't know. I've always seen cinnamon. I forgot about that bag of fireball that I saw. You can buy a fireball in a bag? I've never seen fireball.

I've never seen fireball. This guy at the lake named John Proper, and he has, he's a big fireball guy. And he's a big everything guy. That guy's fun. I like fun people. But they had a bag of fireball. I forgot about that. I've kind of been on a tequila kick lately.

When's Clint going back there? We were just talking last night. I want to go back the week of Kentucky. So like I want to run Kentucky. You want to skip Kentucky? I want to run. Please. Is there a way to do that?

I want to leave Kentucky and go straight to the lake. Because that's a Sunday and I've never been at the Ozarks on a Sunday. Because it's fun on a Wednesday. I can't imagine what a Sunday would be like. We left. Honestly, I think it might have been after a Pocono. I don't know when it was actually. I think it was after a Pocono.

know that we left and went out there. It was, um, it was fun. It's not really a lake. It's a river. It's a river. And it is, it's five foot seas. So Clint, let us take some jet skis out there and we're riding. I got out in the middle and I'm like, oh, like, I'm like, this is rough, man. Like, so we rode back to this cove and, um, it was a, it was a really fun time, really good time. Clint is probably the most fun if you wanted to go hang out with somebody

Clint's probably the guy you want to go hang out It's such high energy I don't know how he has much energy Does his son have that energy? Oh yeah Cash is going to be just like him

Like we went out to this thing And they set up this private beach Where we're going to have this beach Party for his 40th birthday We're not there 30 minutes And he's like I'm over this I'm like dude these people

Have got this whole Let's go to a bar Let's go to bar Give back on the boat, let's go to bar. So we just leave the party. Everybody did. But like, that's just Clint, though. Like, Clint's not going to, he's not a sit around, which is good and bad because

when you're ready to go to bed, he's still going. He's like the energizer bunny. Yeah, he was up late when we were out there. He was one of the last ones up. Which Del Jr. back then stayed up late too. Yeah. Nobody stayed up later in Del Jr. No, no.

Man, there's, gosh, it went. I don't know what happened. We used to go out and. You know, it'd be two o'clock. That's when he went in. And then all of a sudden, I don't know what happened, but then it was like, hey, where's the sun? Yeah.

Like, we better go to bed. Yeah. Like, what happened? But he wouldn't get up back then until three or four in the afternoon when he was on vacation. Yeah, no. This is all like vacation stuff. But he, yeah, we stay up all night. Yeah, he's the complete opposite now.

We went to Dayton for a week. And same thing as TJ said, I saw the sun come up every day. Yeah. Yeah, he can, you can text him at like 7 a.m. right now and you'll get a response right away. It's the complete opposite. Family guy. Family guy, Dale. Were you doing sunrise yoga when you saw the sun come up?

Probably. Yoga. I was probably in a yoga pose, but I wasn't trying to do yoga. Have you ever done yoga, Jason? No. Doesn't seem enjoyable. It's kind of boring. You probably hurt yourself.

Is it? Probably. It's boring. What is it? What's the purpose? It's supposed to relax you. and like you're stretching a lot, but then also strengthens your muscles, I guess.

Is there anything we can do for my butt? I'm serious. I'm in pain. Well. It's in an area where I'm nervous to put like that Ben Gay stuff. I don't know that would put that there. Fireball. What's that new stuff they got that come out?

It's in a white tube of green writing. I don't know the brand. Cortersone? I don't think cortisone's going to help. Icey hot. That's what makes me nervous is the hot part. I don't know that you want to do that. Maybe don't chance that.

I think you should try it. I don't think you should. Use extra. TJ, will you rub it in for me? Oh. Yeah, sure. No problem. Oh, my gosh.

So disgusting. What? I have an ailment. I'm leading on a friend for a cure. You should get those. What are the things you were talking about? Donuts. Yeah, you should get one of those.

Bring in the studio every week. Yeah. Hopefully by next week my butts well. Sorry, we got off a lot of attention. We'll be thinking about you. Listen up. When you're done listening to Door Bumper Clear, go listen and subscribe to my podcast,

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We'll head in the fast lane. I'll give these guys three topics pertaining to racing and one that is off the wall. They'll have 30 seconds to respond to each. First question, drivers are using less breaks than ever before. Is this good or bad for racing? Brett. I think it's bad, man. I think you want these guys hauling ass into the corner and having to stop to make the corner and, you know, roll the center and get back on the on the gas.

I think this is this is a big deal about this package is they're not using the brake. I think we go back to what we were talking about earlier is not as challenging to drive, right? More like a slot car. And these things just point to us the fact to say that they're not, they're not on the brake. It's all gas, no brakes. Yeah, I don't. don't I can't find any good in that. You need to be able to break.

And when you're breaking, you're having guys, you know, some guys use more break than others. Therefore, you start having some pat, you know, they run out of break pad. They start having to back their corner up more than you have guys getting runs on guys. And you have some passing. Less to manage. No break is less. You don't have to manage. It's one less thing you got to worry about.

So I can't find anything good about it. And your corner speeds. We got to slow down. Think about Michigan. We were going 208 plus miles an hour, getting into turn one there a few years ago. This weekend, we're going to be going about 180. So, which means that corner speed is going to be 180 all the way through. They're not going to be lifting in qualifying.

They're not going to be lifting if they got clean air. It's going to be an all-out throttle fest. Oh, you're not. You shouldn't. I don't think you're going to lift much at all. I don't think so either. I don't think you'll lift much. It's going to be throttle fest.

And throttle fest means it's extremely difficult. You could run the tunnel turn at Pocono wide open. Dude, my brain, I don't even know how you train your brain to do that. Yeah, I don't know. I saw Chase Elliott's in car from a helmet cam or something. Yeah. Holy cow. Like, when I watched him going, I was like, oh, I tensed up for him.

Yeah. I was like, oh. Crazy. Yeah. Kyle Bush said he would grade his Trek team's performance so far this season at 2 of 10. should an owner publicly criticize his drivers like this? What do you think, DJ? I mean, if there was an owner that was going to do it, I think it would be Kyle.

But yeah, I mean, this might, maybe this is a wake-up call for them guys, you know, to get their stuff in line and gear and going. So I think he has some talented drivers in his organization, but he's used to, he's used to them guys winning three, four races apiece, and they're just not doing that right now. So, you know, I can see Kyle doing the, he's type of owner that would do this to motivate him. Steve Spraer did this for years. You know, he would go into the media and basically call his team out and see how they reacted. I don't think this is any different.

Kyle's already done this once this year in a more tame way when he basically said, if kids get here and don't run well in my trucks, they're pretty much their career is over. And I felt like that was him taking a shot at these guys. And I feel like now this is a huge shot at these guys. If this doesn't wake up Burton, who I think is run better than Gilliland for the most part of the year, and definitely Gilliland, then, ugh. Hey, this is a warning shot across the bow. I've noticed him improvement.

I think Todd's gotten a little better here recently. I know you haven't done the truck races. It's weird because he started. I spotted for him when he first started running over there, and we ran well. Yeah. Hit lead races. We led races. We finished top five at places.

And then he chose to go a different route. Went with Chris Lambert as a spotter. and I guess Chris wasn't good enough either. Now he won a different route to another guy. And I don't know. I'm not blaming the new guy, but for sure he's running the worst he's ever run over there. Commitment issues. Some of these guys don't like to be called out.

And when I see you screw up a corner, I mean, even Clint Boyer. This guy's an Xfinity Series champion. You know, there's won 10 cup races and second in the points in the cup series before in the final standings. But if Clint misses a corner, it's my job to say, hey, man, that wasn't as good. And some of these kids, when you get on their ass, they don't like it. Did you yell at him after he blamed us? What?

At Charlotte? Who? Clint? I don't even know what happened to Charlotte. I flew to Bahamas after Charlotte. Stewart Hawes Racing swept both Michigan races last year and finished one, two, three last June, but the team remains winless this season. Are you taking an SHR car or the field to win on Sunday?

Brett. Man, the odds are against us right now. I mean, when we look at who's winning, it is JGR mainly, and then it was Penske, obviously, early. But I think that Harvick has shown a lot of speed, and I think Clint has shown a lot of speed. For whatever reason, man, Amarola is not as fast as he was at this point in the year last year. But obviously we're running a different package, a different car, different driving style. I certainly think, you know, Clint won there. He and Harvard were won two.

I certainly think this is a place where a SHR car can go win. Yeah, judging by the You know, how the cars that have been trimmed out more than others I feel like they're going to be, I feel like they're going to be quick Now, whether they're going to be quick When they lose track position or have to get it back somehow That's going to be yet to be determined there But I mean, I don't

I feel like they're going to be very competitive It's crazy how Hendrick is qualifying And look, there's speeds up across the board Yeah, they've done a really good job How many polls, two, three poles this show? Three in a row, right? Yeah, two and around three this season And this is places where you're in the gas, right?

You're running. This isn't Sonoma. This is in Martinsville. I got to give him to it for Pocono, man. That's impressive at Pocono. I mean, that's digging. Nuts. Yeah.

And Charlotte, you're pretty much wide open there in qualifying. But for whatever reason, I mean, you guys saw Kyle Busch. They had to lift a little bit. I mean, they had to handle. Yeah. So he's up on it. Yeah. But, I mean, there were times in the race yesterday where Kyle was flat footed across

the tunnel. And our engineers and our crew chiefs have access to all this data, right? There was a few of them that were. And Buck was like, well, Kyle just ran wide. open across the tunnel, but he passed us on the outside of turn three. I know. And I was like, man, what's he got that we don't have? Because he's got a little something, something that we don't have.

We tried it. Yeah. Couldn't do it. Now. Now. Off the wall topic, Chloe Kardashian attended prom with a fan over the weekend. If you could go back to high school and attend prom with a celebrity, who would it be and why? T.J.

I think Bradshaw, he probably knows. I think about it. I'm intrigued by this. Chloe Kardashian attended prom with a fan. So she went to a high school prom. Correct. Wow. Who would I want to go back and have go to the prom of me?

Man, I don't know. Like Janet Jackson? Britney Spears. No, I don't want Britney Spears. She's ballheaded and she goes. She's crazy, man. Not then. I mean, this is back.

A girl that works for JGR, a name Stacy, been a good friend of my long time. She's like, hey, all girls are psycho, one to ten. where all the best ones are a one and the worst ones are a 10 accurate brittany's a 10 i don't want that kind of crazy i didn't say she wasn't crazy i either want janet jackson or pamela anderson we're talking 1993 now yeah i mean that's big names back then brittney probably wasn't out yet then no she's probably like six about like jessica alba somebody like that yeah was she good back then Cindy Crawford Sandy Crawford was hot

Yeah Yeah Casey who you take And what year did you graduate High School Pat Benatar 2008 Oh not that long ago

11 years ago Yeah So who would have been Your boy crush To take to the Justin Timberlake Nick Lachey I mean

Justin Timberlake now Yeah But back then I wasn't a huge fan No Ashton Coucher Back then Ashton Coucher You're way too young for him

He likes 50 year olds No kidding. When he was 20. But he picked the good one. Well, I love Milakuna, so. Yeah. Oh, that'd have been a good one. That's Demi Moore, right?

Wasn't that his? Yeah. Yeah. Jason, how many years you've been out of high school? One? Three. Yeah. That's a question.

So everyone that's relevant then, still relevant now. Well, I guess you can still pick. Yeah. How are you picking Jason? How are you picking. Oh, Carrie Underwood. I thought you were going to say Kyle Bush. Yeah.

Oh, man. That's funny. Asked CBC. This first question is from K. Oh, man. Khancian. Cancyan? Just spell it out.

I don't know. Cancyan? Cancyan? Sure. Yeah, you're welcome. Sorry, I'm really bad at this. Brett stated in the past year that established drivers could retire if NASCAR went with the high, down force, low horsepower package. A year later, has that changed?

What do you think, Brett? I don't think we're racing in packs like we originally thought we could end up being. You know, I mean, there was a lot of talks about us getting closer together, being more pack-related. they're being more pack related. That hasn't happened. And because that hasn't happened, I would say my answer is no. But a lot of these guys are very, very frustrated and not having fun right now. So that factor of it may make them want to retire.

But the factor that I originally thought may happen with this rules package really hasn't happened anywhere, other than the first three to four laps after restarts. And let me tell you, it's nuts for a couple three laps, but then it's single files out pretty quick. I don't think it's as bad as what everybody thought. You know, I think people thought, oh, it's going to be crazy. going to be six wide every week, every straightaway. They're still, these guys are still racing. I mean, they're still driving.

There's still techniques they're doing. There's still, you know, there's a lot of good racing going on here still. So I think a lot of guys are still having, you know, I think a lot of guys are having fun. This sounds stupid. But if we're going to go this route with this package, we need to slow the cars down more. Because when we get to a place like Michigan, if we can't produce side-by-side, three-wide racing, several laps into a run. we can't produce it.

Didn't you, the guy was telling me we needed to go faster? Well, I'm telling you, I want to see a thousand horsepower but based on this hybridization comment that Casey made earlier when she told us that was coming in 2021,

we're not going that way, T.J. So if I'm going to, if I'm going to look at this package, I'm going to say, man, figure out how to slow the cars down anymore to make a year runs. I don't think you have to have, you don't have to be going 200 miles

an hour to have a good race. No, I agree with that statement. And I learned that from watching a Bristol race on one of them sites where they got, where they're four second so than we are going out, but they're too wide racing. But if what this pack, we know what this package was intended to do. And if it can't do that at Michigan, it can't do it anywhere.

That's the widest place. And look, Michigan was a one groove track after they repaved it. But we slowed the cars down so much that that one groove shouldn't matter. If we can't be side by side there, we can't be side by side anywhere. And I'm skeptical to see if we can be. I think we all are. This question is from Copeland, Zach. Do you think the past two races at independent tracks,

which Dover and Pocono are... Do you think the past two races at independent tracks, Dover and Pocono are dooming them to lose dates or even spots in 2021 schedule and are you becoming okay with that after yesterday's race? Great question.

Great reading, T.J. I just... Dooming. I had never heard that word. I'm sorry. Look, I'll be honest with you, Zach. I think all these guys need to lose dates. And I know that's a mean thing to say, but I don't think there's a lot of tracks we need to be going to twice right now.

I think we need momentum and we need excitement. We need new markets. Like, I mean, this Nashville thing, we've all been talking about it for 18 months. We don't even know when the hell we're going back there. So I don't have a problem with tracks losing dates, especially when I don't see these owners and these tracks and these promoters out there busting their balls to sell as many tickets as they can.

I'm in the middle of trying to buy a package right now through a track, and I won't say which track it is, but they are very, very difficult to deal with in terms of what we're trying to purchase. I'm trying to purchase 250 tickets. What state? I'm trying to purchase a 50-person hospitality. in a motorhome, and they're making me, they want me to pay for the pre-race concert

in order to be able to buy all those things and give me what I want. So Casey lives in this world with Xfinity. I'm telling you right now, man, there's a lot of reason that these tracks aren't full and it's because they're difficult. And until these tracks want to bust their butt and bend over backwards for me

and for the fan and for the sponsor and for the driver and for the owner, I'll never forget, man, we went somewhere and I won't say which track this was either. We rolled into the track and they wanted Elliot to pay $500 for a golf car. permit. And he said, hey, all those appearances you had on my schedule on race day morning, cancel them because I don't have a way to get to them. I'm like, yeah, we do. We got a golf

car sitting here. He's like, they want 500 bucks for my golf cart. That's stupid. Yep. All budget. I mean, why do you think sponsors struggle every race? I mean, it's a challenge. Zach, what was your question? Hell, I forgot the question. Well, what's the next one, Casey? Let's go. This question is for NASCAR opinion. what is your thoughts on TV not showing Victory Lane anymore? Is that real? Yeah, they interview them on the front stretch. They won't show them getting out of the car.

They just interview them after they get out of the car, not even show in the celebration. Man, what do you think? Ah, man, that guy didn't win by himself. No, man, I think you need to go to Victory Lane. That's the whole thing. I mean, I know they go to Victory Lane. He'll celebrate, man, but that's like...

He celebrates on the front stretch. It's true. I think I don't know I'm so I saw it Yeah I don't know specifically Like if that I want to see confetti flying champagne Every weekend because I

Pretty much Fox won't show the cup guy Getting out of Victory Lane celebrating Not live anymore I don't know how NBC will do it but Why? Just because they do the other thing already There's trying to copy what NBC did With the front stretch interview

But NBC still showed the victory lane two of them I think they also I mean there's with all the changes From media like Availability on with cars or with drivers when they gather their cars. Like maybe they're just trying to meet with more drivers. I guess I'm not too sure, unfortunately.

But who woke up one morning and said it's a terrible idea to show Victory Lane? Who's that guy? I don't know. I'm telling you. Do you think that guy made the right call? I mean, that guy's popping champagne. He's putting on the right hat. Like he's going to jump on top of his crew guys that guess what busted their butt to build the car and pit the car.

And the sponsors in Victory Lane. Like, come on, man. I mean, Kyle didn't put that car together. No. If you want to send the RF camera out there to run around and film Kyle doing burnouts and doing that bowing crap or whatever it is he does, that's fine. But, man, the Victory Lane thing is wrong. That's real. I'm sorry, Jason.

I didn't mean crap. It isn't crap. I mean, not just crap. I don't know why. I don't know why we don't bring the top three to the front stretch and do Victory Lane right at the start, finish line in front of all the fans right there. That's Victory Lane from that. That's victory lane from now on. Bring a truck out and...

We got all three of them right here, man. We put a pile on in front of the one that says one, second guy right here, and we put him up on a little... We put a podium right there. He finishes a burnout. All the guys run and tackle him and we all do what we celebrate. Pull up to the number one card and stop and get out right there. That's Victory Lane. Victory Lane is a star finish.

Yeah, like Formula One, like V8 supercars. Yeah. Casey had to leave. Made her mad. After all these shows, she's literally walking out on us. She is actually. With no explanation. And she just quit on us right there.

I thought she was going to throw up or something. She might be pregnant. Oh, gosh. She can't defend herself this time. But yeah, I don't really want the fans in the stands to be closer to the victory lane stuff. Word of Outlaw stops the guy. They bring the confetti cannons out there and shoot the confetti into the air. I mean, how many people would be at the front of the fence waiting for that?

Everybody. They're all right there. You know what's cool about Martinsville's? because that's where it's at. People are right there. You know, and then after the race, let them move the cars, let them push the car there. I still don't understand why TV thinks it's a good idea to not show it. I didn't know they know this was happening.

As soon as the cars move from Victory Lane, you know what we do? Open the gate. Open the gate. Let them open the gate. Let the fans in. I agree. They still interview, like Darrell Waltrip and then. We'll interview Kyle in Victory Land, but it's a couple minutes after they do the whole celebration. Man, that's the thing, though, man.

These guys are, they get out of the cars, and that's like, they, like on the front stretch, yeah, but that's not Victory Lehman. That's not with the guys that put the thing together. It's a, that's a,

I won, we wrecked, you fix it. Yeah, I mean, exactly. I mean, let's celebrate,

man, the team guys deserve that too. For sure. All them guys, and I mean, all them guys on their every single team, there's no difference in all of them,

man, they all work their butts off. Yeah. Down there, so. Jimmy Kunkel asked, what is the best race in NASCAR history?

man there's been so many good ones I've seen a lot of great races man I know I agree I mean when you look at Del Arnhart winning Daytona finally the Daytona 500 and what was that 99? 98 98 before I was born 98 he wins a Daytona 500 finally right like that certainly was one of the bigger feel-good moments

to see all those crews out there congratulating even Derek Copeland though that's a but then when you come back to Atlanta man and you see Harvick running in the 29 car run door to door with Jeff Gordon, right? Yeah. You know, a couple weeks after Earnhardt had passed away. Like, I mean... I mean, even...

There's been so many good races. So many, man. You know, even Terry Levani and Bristol. Remember that tandem racing where you guys, I don't know if y'all won or not, but like there were three packs of twos. Oh, we were four packs of twos. Yeah.

Because you were running outside by the wall. There was eight cars within half a second of one another. Not even half a thing. It'd be like a third of it. I mean, you're tandem, so you're hooked. I think for this question, it literally would have to be like, what's your personal favorite? And my personal favorite win would be Elliott winning in 2001 with the Woodbrothers

because that was only my sixth race ever spotting. And I was like, man, this is easy. I'm going to win a lot, you know. And having the Woodbrothers been in business at that time 50 years and never won a race there, that was probably the coolest feeling. But, man, they're all fun. You don't ever win one that's not fun. No, I mean, we all have our favorites either.

I think winning in Michigan with Dale Jr. After that, I mean, after the drought kind of. That, you know, obviously, obviously for me, winning the 500 was pretty awesome. And most recently, man, even just going back and watching last year's, to me, personally, watching last year's Homestead race was, I mean, that's one of my favorites. How would it not be? Right. You know, I mean, to me, that was a good race, too.

You had all four guys starting the top four. one guy stayed out, got on strategy, Kyle, and you didn't know it was, and Kyle's hard to pass, man. You had Martin who was really fast. You had a short run speed. Some of them had long run speed. And we weren't in the front row, so we were going to have to pass. I don't know how you line up a 10, 15 lap shootout for a championship better than that.

With guys like that, you had Martin and the background with him and Joey. You had the big three. And me. And you. And me. And, but I mean, you had, was Martin going to let Joey pass straight up or would he do anything? You know, people didn't know. But, yeah.

I mean, that was a great race to me. 100%. Jay Saunders 1-1-2 asked, since Bush is doing the dad joke contest, what are your best dad jokes? I should bring my daughter on for that one. She's got, she's found a video on kids YouTube that's dad jokes. And she's got some good ones. Yeah. Like, you know what Beethoven's favorite food is?

Uh-uh. Banana-na-na. Ha! Or the light ball. You hear about the lightball party? That's funny. Did you hear that one? No.

It's pretty lit. That's a good one too. These are all from my daughter. She can, she'll do, like, then she'll get on the kick where she makes her own up. Like, why does she can cross the road? And she'll be like, hold a good ice cream or something. It's like, what? How are you going to do this Beethoven and this other joke?

And then follow up with that. Yeah. Come on, Mads. You got any good dad jokes, Jason? I looked some up. Why did the coffee file a police report? It got mugged. Did you get your haircut?

No, I got them all cut. These are just internet ones. What's your best joke, Jason? No, I don't have a go-to joke. What's your really hot girl in the corner of the bar, or club, or wherever you're at? You want to talk to it. What's your pickup line? That's a good question.

Probably depends on the situation. Okay. I can't think of the off the top of my head Probably just gets on Tinder and see if he recognizes Anybody in the bar Yeah, wait, we're close, let her show up Is she there? Is she here? I mean,

I told, did I tell her this on her before About the girl from the hills? No. What was her name? Audrina Partridge. You remember her? No, I don't watch a lot of TV. I don't know, but she was, that's when we were out in Hollywood

And I, that's when Brad had her come over to me. And I mean, I, I, I liked her before, and she was at the same party we were at. Yep. And Brad, being a tool, went up to her. And I was like, hey, my buddy wants to say something to you. And I'm like, oh, what did you say? Hey, look at you with all them curds, me with no brakes. Yeah.

Won't use that one. Yeah, I didn't get a number. You didn't? Didn't work out well. That didn't work. I don't know why I didn't work. Actually, she laughed. And she was like, that's pretty good.

Did she sat down like it? Listen, man. Okay, we got to stop. We're in trouble. Again. Again. Last one. Meg Nelson asked, what was your childhood summers filled with?

Camps, road trips, neighborhood kids, sports practice? Dude, I played outside every day. Outside, building forts. I fished a lot. There was a couple of farm ponds. I would ride my bike. I'd ride my bike probably five, six miles to get to a pond to fish in it. I don't know, man.

Just a lot of playing outside. Myrtle Beach! That's all I did every summer. My mom and sister had a little beach house and Ocean Lakes family campground and I would go to Myrtle Beach as often as I could. And I told Clint last week in the Bahamas,

thanks for ruining Myrtle Beach for me the rest of my life. Yeah, you don't. Dick move. Dirty Myrtle. Now it's like, man, you're going to go to Myrtle Beach? No, no, really? No. Not after going to the Zumas.

I went to a lot of races during the summer. I'd go to my grandparents for a few weeks during the summer. Me and my sister would, and my grandpa owned race cars. So we would go racing a lot too. We had a town pool that charged $2 in Pagelin. It was $2 a day, and I'd ride my bike from my house at the town pool. Spend two bucks. We'd play shark.

We'd play snark. We'd play Marco Polo. Yeah. We'd annoy the hell out of the lifeguards. I lived by a lake like that for, or by a lake, for two years. I think right around 89 or 90. and it was Lakewood, New York, right by Jamestown. I'm sure you probably heard of James Town, at least.

I used to ride. I was three blocks from the lake probably, and I would ride my bike down there. I don't know how my mom put up with it, because now if my daughter rides off on her bike, I'm like... We have heart attacks. Yeah, like, where'd you go? I would leave in the morning,

and I would not come back until the sun was coming down. We didn't have all these idiots out there kidnapping people and doing the things that these people do, man. We didn't have those problems. I just can't even believe, like, my mom would be okay. I'd leave and I'd be home for or five hours. I'd go to the beach all day, get done with there, ride over to my buddy's house, go find something for dinner.

I can't believe you didn't go to Niagara Falls much because you were pretty close to that, right? Yeah. We went to Niagara Falls quite a bit, but once you live up there and once you go a handful of times, I mean... I love the Canadian side of Niagara Falls. It's gorgeous. Well, the American side's blown up a bunch now. Has it?

Yeah. It's been about five years, six years since I've been. Yeah, it's growing up a lot. That casino in Canada, man. I love that side of the world. I'm going to take my... kids up there here, maybe another year or two. I used to do the road trip.

I drive to Pocono. Yeah, that's what I think we're going to do. And we go to Niagara Falls and then we come back and drive to Wachan's land and then drive back home. It was a long, long road trip, but kids loved it. Yeah. I mean, Niagara Falls is pretty awesome. Yeah.

It's awesome. Got anything that ran about? No, I think I've already blown my... Yeah, I think we've... Track guy. Won't sell me to my tickets. I think it's pretty smooth weekend, man. I can't think of anything that I saw or...

You know, I ran, I had my first rant last week. T.J. and I both want to see tire fall off. Everybody wants to see it. We don't want to see after 30 laps. Everybody's running 5440s. Yeah. Or everybody's, everyone just runs the same lap time. Yeah.

You just can't, you know, I want to see guys, okay, I need to manage this. I want a driver to think in his head, if I go too hard right here, I'm going to pay for it in 20 laps. But I know we probably won't ever get to that point. Which is what every short track in America does. Yeah, you get the rear. tires on it. What do you do at Richmond? What do you do at Bristol? I mean, Bristol maybe not as much. Yeah, but even not us anymore. Now, Martinsville, I mean, Martin'sville and Richmond, you're trying to keep the rear tires on it. You'll see guys come off a turn four at Richmond so low and straight

because they're not spinning the tires. They're just trying to save them. You know, I just got to have some handling issues and not just not the ones we have. We need we need soft tires or something. I don't know. All right. I watched American Pie based on the recommendation of Freddie and T.J. That's a good one.

That one time at band camp, I never knew that, but I always heard it, but now I know it is. And then the girl turns out to be this, like, not band geek at all. So that was pretty funny.

Would she play the trombone or what did she play? The clarinet? Flute. No, it was flute or something. Yeah, she made some whine about the flute. I forget.

It's a flute because, oh, it's definitely a flute. The trombone will be real uncomfortable. There's a, There's another line in the movie where it definitely says flu. Yeah, no, I remember that too. I forget it sick.

Definitely not a bass drum. No. Then the one time where the kid, there was his beer by the bed and then a kid drinks it and it wasn't just beer in there. That was pretty funny. I can't expand upon that too much. And then the dad opens Jim's bedside drawer and finds some other things in there. What he find? I don't know.

Yeah. I can't remember. Crazy. Oh, what a was. I'm not going to say it on the show. You're going to beep that. out anyway. And then I'm probably not going to have any apple pie anytime soon. Why not? I don't know. Just it doesn't seem as appetizing after watching that film.

I think he'd want it more. No, it was good. I thought it was pretty funny. What do you watch it next? American Pie is a good one. That's a real good one. What do you want, Jason? You want scary, funny? Funny. I mean, you've seen wedding crashes, right? Yep, that was good. Funny's the best. Stepbrothers, I'm sure you used. seen. Seeing Talladega Knights? No.

Really? Just kidding. What about like? I've not seen it. What about Van Wouter or something? I've seen like half of it. Van Wouter or, uh, what's the one with, with, uh, Will Ferrell where he's streaking? We're going streaking through the quad.

Yeah. Yeah, what's that? What is that one? You think KFC still open? Dude, that one is real good. Yeah. Uh, which one is that? It's not Van Wouter.

It's the one word. No, it's not Van Wouter. They got the guy that's like the leader It's not an acre man Because he's in that one wasn't he Yeah We need to We're going streaking

Everybody's doing it Yes Will Ferrell He was a fraternity guy Yes Uh Man I can't remember I'll have here in a second

Will Ferrell Streaking movie Will Ferrell's a funny dude Old school Old school That's a good one Jason Oh my gosh You're my boy blue

You're my boy Oh my gosh Old school's a good one All right Just ring the bell you... Yeah, that's a real good one. That is a good one. Yeah.

All right, DVC picks. Gosh, dang it, man. That was a close one this week. I won. One position. I think you should award, like, three bonus points for the guy who has the most straight-up wins with the guy they pick. Yeah, because you got one. You got one.

Who got, dog? You got to go first because you lost. Well, who's going to have... You know what? I mean, it's from Michigan. I'll go ahead and back you up. up with Eric Jones. Eric Jones is solid.

I'm going to go with Eric Alamarola. Amarola by morning. Yeah. Up from San Antonio. I already used him. If I didn't, yeah, that's about all you got left. That's two good ones. That's two heavy, heavy hitters going out of it.

You don't, you have Larson, and then you're going to be swinging. I'm swinging anyway, though. No, I'll be, swinging. He'll be good there. Just a swinging. We're done with this show? I guess we're done. You need to go get some.

lotion. I gotta get something. I don't think there's anything you can put on that. I don't either. You just have to deal with it. Stay off it. You're going to lay on your stomach for a while.

On my stomach. Maybe it'll flatten my stomach out of I just lay on it. I gotta go. It sure is flattened out my ass. I gotta go next door here and buy one of the Deljutor-R-sponsored wedding rings. I broke mine.

What happened? I've had the same one, the fake one, obviously, for years and I went to rip, pull it off, and it snapped. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Share the show on social.

Retweet it. Wow, you're in a hurry. Make comments. If you retweet it helps us out. So go like it, shared all over social media. Maybe TJ will share the show too on his social media.

Well, don't you do a retweet contest to win something? Yeah, maybe we can do something cool. Yeah. Where's Leah? Does Leah still work here? Leah's about to come in once we finish up. Why don't... Oh.

We used to have cool producer people that would do giveaways and stuff. Cool producer people. You had one producer before me. I'm just saying cool people that would do giveaways and stuff. Yeah, we need a spot. If we had Trager grills, we'd give away a grill.

I mean, that seems a little extreme. I mean, if we're giving away a grill, I'm going to win. I'm going to enter. I'm going to enter for the grill giveaway, too. I still don't. I still don't know why we don't have Trager cookouts at race tracks. I know. We need to.

I know. Scott, buddy. We need a beer deal and a Trager deal. Yeah, some brisket. Brisket and beer. It's just something. Sounds great. I mean, what better thing to do than watch race.

And nothing better. All right. We're off to Michigan. We'll be back. We're on, we're on from Michigan, and then TJ and I have a weekend off. Go anywhere? I don't know yet. I've made zero plans.

Dirty Myrtle. You going somewhere? Yeah. Where are you going? The coast. Oh, yeah. One of them cities down that way. Yeah.

I mean, there's only really two to three to pick from here. So it's Myrtle Beach, Savannah, or Charleston pretty much, right? Yeah. Or. There's a lot of cool. tell you what, though, like if you get down to, small little towns. Yeah, you get down to Pauley's Island and Georgetown,

and there's, uh, that's a great area. I've never been to the outer banks. Um, it's a little further than, further than, it's a hell of a lot further than, it's six hours.

You can't get there from here. Yeah, it's, it's just a pain. Like, Myrtle Beach is doable for a morning. You can leave in the morning. You're there by lunch.

Outer banks is more chill, you know, not as much stuff to do like Myrtle. Uh, their sand to me was hotter. Maybe I might just had a sensitive feet weekend that week, but when I walked out of the sand. I thought my skin was melting.

Really? I went to all the arms. I felt bad for every dog in America I've ever seen walking down the sidewalk on the summer. I'm like, their f***ing paws are burning them. They got to you, man. You know what my feet are doing. Y'all need to get socks for these damn dogs. I went to Al Palms, man.

I swear. It was so hot, man. Uh, anyway. Jason, you going anywhere? I'm going to Myrtle Beach, Polys Island this weekend. I'm going to Charleston for a day, so. That a boy. Nice.

Taking your flute. All right. That's it. We'll talk to after Michigan. I'll see you. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Mo.