Door Bumper Clear - 144 - Stand Your Ground

Episode Date: July 23, 2019

Race winning spotter Tim Fedewa returns after Kevin Harvick’s New Hampshire victory. He and TJ cover the battle for the win, brake checking the field on restarts, Denny Hamlin calling out spotters, Paul Menard vs Harrison Burton and speeding tickets. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Casey Boat here. I don't know how we got this lucky, but Brett is out again. We have race-winning spotter Tim Fiedelwoods back to chat about his victory lane experience in New Hampshire, plus he and T.J. will cover Paul Menard turning Harrison Burton in the Xfinity race. Denny Hamlin's tweet about spotters, Harvick and Hamlin's battle for the win, plus tons more. Let's get started. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got here. New leader.

I'll watch out for this guy. White flag. Recognize. Hello. Clear. Bring home. Free light. Coming to the line.

Door. Bumper. Clear. I'm T.J. Majors. And, you know, we decided to can bread again. We've had so many good reviews of last week. We brought the winning spotter back. I'm Tim Fidwa.

Spotter for race winner. Kevin Harbour. I don't know how we got this lucky, honestly. Another break from Brett and a race-winning spotter. Two weeks in a row. Yeah, so Casey gets another break from wedding pitcher posts, but you're still going to, you're not going to get a break from if you're going to have a baby or not. Oh, my God.

So we'll just get that knocked out of the way right now. Yes, I do still, people have asked me. So are you pregnant or not pregnant? Waiting on you, Chad. not pregnant despite what TJ says every single week and I will never ever

make the announcement on DVC That's heartbreaking You should Well now it's like You bring it up every week Well now you're going to make the announcement On the show

It'll be done on the show We've got some time before that Don't you worry A week or two or Anyway I would ask you Like Casey is there something We need to talk about here

Oh my gosh No Yeah, sorry, Chad. So I would ask you how Loudoun was, but I'm pretty sure Timmy had a good time. He kind of called a shot last week. Well, I mean, you kind of did. I did. I felt good about it.

Yeah. I mean, we've been close all year. That's one of Kevin's better tracks too. It is. It is. That's a Kevin, Kyle, Clint-type racetrack. Brad's been really strong there lately. Last couple years, Brad's gotten really good there as well.

And it showed. Yeah, I think a lot of the veterans run good at Loudoun, I think. I think a lot of guys with a short track background. Yeah. I mean, a lot of guys don't like Loudoun. Yeah, it's like Martinsville. It's like one that they just want to go to and come up like Martinsville. It's a tough.

It's a different race track. So Martinsville and Loudon are two of the places where I think people look at me like, oh, I can go there and run, you know, I'll be better there. It's the complete opposite. it's actually harder there in Martinsville or there's two of the hardest racetracks you can go to to start at. Why is that? It's just there's so much to it.

You have to be able to learn. You have to be good on the brakes. You have to be good at getting into a rhythm. And, you know, Martinsville's got the curbs. You got it. You just got to find a rhythm. You have to take care of your right rear tire. You have to take care of your stuff.

And, you know, it's hard. Like Dale Jr.'s first trip to Martinsville went as bad as it could go. He hit a wrecker. he hit the wrecker so how that's pretty bad or did he hit the wreck or the ambulance paste car no it was a wrecker or ambulance i think donor do you remember ambulance you're from the south yeah so um and every um it's hard and these guys are these guys that have been going there for a while are really good are i think people underestimate how good these guys really are too these drivers like you better enjoy watching guys like jimmy and them guys race right now because

It's like watching Tom Brady. It is. You know, they're so good. Like you said earlier, a lot of the young kids will run their first truck race and it'll be at Martinsville. Yeah, we're going to Martinsville. Can you help me there? We should be really good there. I've run a lot of short tracks.

I'm like, yeah, man, I don't know if that's my first choice. But just because it's so technical and Loudoun's a lot like that, you have to have experience, I think. It's the biggest thing. Yeah, it's just experience there. There's little tips and tricks to these guys. Honestly, it's from, if you're good at short tracking, believe that you'll eventually be better at those tracks in my opinion if you're gonna if you're really good and you know you grew up racing short tracks I think you're

gonna go to Loudon and Martin Zill and be you're gonna be like wow this is harder than I thought but after him I think you're I think you're gonna those are gonna be your strong points later on you're gonna adapt yeah you're gonna adapt to that but the you know like these young kids coming in like William Byron and that they don't know any different like we talked about before they don't know he hasn't run a ton of short tracks not like not like 10 years at a local place like it used to be like you and like Corelli. You guys got clauses full of trophies from feature wins at local tracks. Yours is more Michigan, probably Midwest area.

Yeah, I mean. How many feature wins do you think you have before you moved up? Well, you know, to be honest, I didn't have that many feature wins before I moved up because every year I moved up like into a different, more competitive series. I started out running late models. So what was the first track you raced at? The first track I ever raced at was a dirt track in Michigan called Crystal Speedway. Yeah.

Three-eight's high banked. And, you know, I raced there for a couple years, raced another dirt track, and then we went to the pavement stuff. And every week, my dad would take me to a different track. Yeah, I got you. I never raced the same. Never raced for a championship until I went into, like, the Argo series or ASA. Yeah. But you ran a lot of races.

I did. You ran a lot of races. And guys like Corelli's got, I mean, he's got hundreds of wins. Exactly. And yeah, I mean, most of them, his first stats are like carved in stones. You know, you had to be about before you got in a bush, you know, back in the day that wasn't the truck series, but you had to be probably 32, 33 years old. Yeah.

And you had to want a lot of races wherever you came from. Or you didn't even get the shot. Now, I mean, it's changed. Yeah, it's not even about getting, like Jack Sprague, they called him one track Jack, but he had a lot of wins. He, I know it's because he won at, what, Concord all the time? Yeah, one trend series, but he won several features at other tracks before he. Oh, yeah. And all them, like Hornaday, all them guys, just tons of wins, like tons and tons and tons of wins.

You know, the kids come. They were stars at their local places. Right. Like, they were stars at their local tracks. So, but anyway, good weekend for you. It was. It was exciting. It was, uh.

Yeah. So feel good to get the. Monkey off our back. It does. You know, we've been close, obviously. We just hadn't put it all together. Yeah. You guys had some bad luck, too. We had. Little things would bite you. But I really, you know, it was, it's just nice to have some relief going into the next race. This just goes to show you that you don't ever know when your next win is going to be. No. You know, you're used to winning four or five races a year, probably, roughly.

And then it seems like, okay, well, it's kind of, not. Not, not. easy, but it's, you know, we're going to be pretty successful. You expect it every year. Then it comes in your, that doesn't happen for a year and a half, and you're like, oh, Martin said it years ago, right? You said, you never know when your next victory can come. And I told the guys that in Victory Lane last night, I said, you know, relish this moment because you just never know.

It could be next week. Right. And it might be a year and a half from now. You never know. No, you sure know. So, yeah. So what's Kevin going to do with the lobster? I don't know.

I don't think Keelham is still impressed with it. I don't, I don't know. I don't know if he does or not. Keelan kissed it. I saw it. Yeah, that was pretty cool. I saw that. That's awesome.

So we are back to my turn to select the pristine auction item to bid. We're on a little bit of a losing streak. We lost your Bradley Cooper photo. Then last week we lost the David Ortiz signed baseball because they went for like $200 again. It's crazy. But we do have our Gamecox football now on the table. Yes. And because of that, and just to get Brett back for, you know, all the crap he gives me.

being gone for two weeks, so I decided that it was time to bid on a Clemson Tigers national championship football. I'm all for it. We can put it right next to his favorite football right there on the table. I think I'm a Syracuse fan kind of. We got a Michigan State fan here. So I think Clemson would be fine up there, especially if it makes Brett Mad. We can put it right next to Bratman. Right next to Brett.

Yep. Yeah, maybe you should get one, like, find it like a bigger one. It'll cover that one. It'd be a big helmet and have him wear it the entire show next. I heard somebody ask Brett how they're going to be this year, and he already gave me that, he already gave that guy this an excuse. Well, our schedule, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, my gosh, you're one of them guys.

Our schedule's harder. Yeah. So we put a $20 bid on the football and we're not going to lose this one. If we lose this one, I'll go find a little helmet or something. Yeah, we're going to have to, next week, whoever, turn it is like pick something clompson again we'll just keep going until we get it uh no we're going to load this table with bill stuff that's my goal is to get everything i can buffalo bills on this table whatever you say football's coming so brett's probably fuming as he's listening right now that we're gonna

bid on a clemson football i would think get excited brett can't wait yes on spot on spot off he's spot off you don't like it and you say why either way First topic, Kevin Harvick's comments Friday at New Hampshire. Jason, you want to play that? Yep, this is like a 30-minute clip from when he was in the media center, 32nd that minute. Wow, that's wonderful. He was in the media center on Friday, and he was answering Jeff Gluck's question about why guys have started racing all over the track, and what's caused that?

If you'd have drove like this 10 years ago, you'd had a fist in your mouth. But what changed were the rules, and when it becomes, when every spot becomes that much more difficult to achieve. You have to defend the spots that you have because you know that you might not get it back. Blocking is a part of what we do. Defending your position is a part of what we do. And it's just an evolution of where the rules package is. And heck, I had a blown motor last week, a broken engine and was only three-tenths off the pace. So, you know, you're talking about small amounts of time and especially on the mile and a half racetracks where You know, if you can keep somebody behind you, and that comes with side drafting and blocking and all those things that if they're directly behind you, there's no way they'll pass you because of the arrow.

Spot on, spot off. Tim, we'll start with you. Spot on. I mean, that's just the way it is. I couldn't say it any better. We've talked about it. We talked about it last week, I think, a little bit. Every week it seems to be a topic.

And, you know, there's not many old school places we go to anymore where you don't have to block or. or do what you got to do to make this package work for you. And I think Kevin's exactly right. Yeah, he's spot on with how everything has evolved like this. I'd say Loudon and Martinsville and Bristol are kind of the last three places that I think were, it's not as much of a factor there, kind of short tracks. But he's right on how it's evolved. I mean, you have to take the air from the guy.

That's that's the name of the game. I want to win. I don't, there's a, like, we want to win the race. I don't want to, hey, Timmy's back here. He's got a, he's a little faster, but I'm going to let him go on by. No, I don't want to let him go on by. That's just not how it is. So everything, everything's evolved.

The cars have evolved. The driving style has evolved. The spotting has evolved. Everything, everything in the, sport just keeps evolving like everything else. So, and he's right. And just because, like you said, you think Martinsville and Loudon

is not really, I don't know, I still think even your mindset as a spotter and as a driver, just because you're at Loudon, you're still going to block, right? You're not going to not block because you're at Loudoun. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, no, you're still going to block to a point, but like, not like

a mile and a half block. Right. Mile and a half, you can move up three or four points. As a spotter now, we're so in two, with just protecting every run that's coming. Yeah, you know when they get close enough. We, at Loudoun, we didn't. We weren't that protective. Would you agree with that?

No, probably not quite as protective. Definitely, I mean, the wake's bigger in the car. So it's just, it's, you know, it's still, yeah, it's just, it's, everything's changing constantly. Next topic. Denny Hamlin's tweet during the Xfinity race, Jason. He tweeted, did we just hear the 22 spotter say, he's been too nice for too long. Young dudes, don't let your spotters drive your cars for you.

Most times it leads to Rex. TJ, this one is definitely for you, spot on or spot on. I feel like it would be better for Brett. Yeah. But, you know, to me, I'm spot off on this. I don't, I've worked with plenty of young people, can continue to work with plenty of young people that you try to guide the right way and help them.

I don't think, first of all, I don't think it was a spotter that he said anything. And I think he made a tweet after that saying, you know, it wasn't him. But, you know, I don't agree. I'd like Danny to come up there and spot a race and see how he does. But I don't agree. A lot of us make a living by helping guys and you're trying to help them run the best race you can and make better decisions on the racetrack. And I don't think I've ever talked to my guy in the,

you know into wrecking somebody like that you you don't like your car you don't like your car to go out there and get pushed around but you also you know you you're not like if you get hit repeatedly and you know as well as i do if you keep letting it happen guys are you're going to keep doing it until you stand up for yourself um but i don't you know i'll never i'll never talk my driver into going down there you know and wrecking somebody's car that i don't I don't agree with that. These guys in the garage and the shops don't get enough credit already as it is for how much work they put into these cars. And for them to go out there and just go and, hey, go wreck that guy. That's not.

That guy didn't work on that car. So was it Josh that said it? No, it wasn't Josh. No, I think it was the, I think it was on the crew chief. Yeah. So, but, you know, I disagree with Denny. if he would, maybe he needs to listen to some other people's spot and how they work with drivers and stuff before, before you go and say that, in my opinion. I mean, I don't, I don't tell him, you know, I'm sure his spotter's helped him many times.

I know Lambert's great with him. He's helped him, and Denny's tweeted about it before how good he, how good Lambert's done with him and stuff. And I don't just think that's a pretty, I don't know, I don't agree with the statement. Spot off. I mean, I don't agree with it either. You know, I tell Kevin as much in, information as I can. And a lot of times he doesn't listen to me, not for the fact that he don't, but he's driving the car ultimately. And he's going to do what he wants to do. And that's great. That's what I want him to do. But I'm still going to feed him that information until he tells me to stop. And, you know, this case, you're working with a younger driver. Sometimes they, you know, it's hard to tell them the truth sometimes, but they need to hear it. Because it's not only coming from you,

It's coming from Channel 2 on our radios. It's coming from the meetings a week before. Hey, you got to stay on this guy. You got to guide him here. You got to tell him to be more aggressive. We can't just be riding around. Not saying this, just picking on the 22. This is with a lot of young drivers.

And, you know, there's a, there's just a line of communication that through your company, through your team, is relayed through the spotter and to the driver. And sometimes we're the middleman. and ultimately we're the ones that have to deliver the message good or bad. Yeah, but also there's different, everyone's on a different agenda. You know, if Kevin's racing

and he's got some rookie out there that's in his rookie year and he's kind of, you know, holding him up a little bit and, you know, what's Kevin going to do? Kevin's going to bump him out of the way, right? I mean, that's the right, that's what I would expect to do.

That's what I would expect Kevin to do. Not wreck him and destroy his car, but Kevin's going to be like, look, man, you're holding me up, I'm going to move you and walk him, what I do learn. And that's what these, that's what the veterans do. Um, you know, but there's other, you got when, you know, when it's somebody else that's on the same agenda as you young, learning, you know, no more experience than you around the same age, everything, when, you know,

you got two kids racing, young guys racing and they come in there and this guy runs any of you past you, okay, whatever, you know, maybe he messed up or whatever, catches you again, runs in and passes you, what are you going to tell your guy? You're not going to sit there and keep taking it. I mean, you're not going to tell him to go wreck his car, or at least I wouldn't anyway, but you're going to let that guy know, like, look, ma'am, you keep letting this guy push you around.

Next time he catches you, he knows that he can hit you and move you out of the way and get your spot and move on. Now, you know, you need to show him, and it's not whether it's a conversation after the race or, you know, on the racetrack, maybe you go to the next corner, you send him off the way. racetrack. Then he's going to know, okay, well, if I do it to him, he's going to do it back.

Now, I can't do that to him anymore. You have to stand your ground. Like I said, I don't agree with wrecking race cars over it and stuff like that. And I don't, I've never told anybody to go wreck them. No. I might tell him to go get him back and be aggressive with him. Like TJ said, bump him out of the way. Yeah, race how you're raced. Right. I don't mind a guy racing how you're race. Right. Right. Maybe. Race him like he races you. I say that. Yeah, exactly. That's a good. But there's, I got no problem with that at all. But I will never, I will will never be in favor of just destroying a guy's car. Robbins racing.

I mean, we all work, you know, every team. There's so many people that put so much time and effort in these things. Yeah, man. It ain't up to a spotter to tell somebody. I will, maybe, you know. It'd have to be really, really severe circumstances for me to, and I don't even think I would do that. Nothing good comes.

Nothing good comes out of that. That's when, if it gets that bad, there's people's safety at risk at that point and stuff. So you won't ever, you won't ever hear me or, I don't think you ever hear any of the top to your spotters say anything, you know, like that. Fair. Paul Menard turns Harrison Burton in the Xfinity race and says, enough is enough. How about you, Tim? Spot on, spot off. Spot off.

I kind of see where his frustration come from because, in all honesty, I spot for Chase, Briscoe, in Exfinity as well. And we raced him hard, clean but hard for probably 10 laps. and then he got by us and then a little later in the race I forget who he was racing with but they were doing the same thing to him and then Harrison and him were going at it like the third time

and it was just it was so hard to pass but I really didn't think Harrison did anything to get to get that you know I didn't I didn't either I mean it was hard racing frustrating it was 100 degrees 100 whatever 20 in the car I get it and I think

you know he was frustrated Paul was and uh you know Harrison race is clean every week I've never have you ever seen him do anything like really out of the way

I mean he's a little racer he's learning yeah I'm I don't I don't think Paul meant to turn him I don't be so I'll tell you a couple times

I'll tell you why in a second but no I think Harrison's been exceptionally clean I think I knew he ran the bottom more than almost anyone in the Xfinney race right I watched the entire race and he does everywhere

and I knew a couple times he overjured the corner and slid up into a guy. Yeah. And if you do that to that guy and you're the third guy to come along and do that, right. You got to know, like, he's got to learn too, though.

Okay, I just saw that guy hit him. I just saw that guy hit him. Yeah. This dude's already mad. So if you hit him, he's going to snap. So that's just part of his learning too. It is. You know, and spotters can help with that too.

Like, hey, you know, be a little careful of those guy. He's a little mad. You might want to just be easy with him. But I also noticed that Harrison, and right when he got hit, Harrison was downshifting. Oh, I didn't see that. Yes, he was downshifting every corner. So right when he got hit, I think he was in the middle of a shift.

Yes. So I think the gap close up really quick, right at the very end for, like, I don't think Paul. Paul's a really, first of all, Paul Menard is a super clean job. I don't know if I've seen Paul wreck anybody. I don't either. I don't think I ever have. You pissed Paul Minard off. You've done something.

Exactly. Like, and I think after it happened, and Paul's the type of guy like, okay, well, look, I did it. I'm going to own it. Right. He didn't back down from it, you know. No, he didn't. Like you said, they had poked the bear three times for Harrison got there. But when Paul hit him, I think Paul just meant to rough him up a little bit and send him up the racetrack.

But right when they-timing was right. Timing was, everything worked out perfectly, but I think Harrison was grabbing a gear at that time. And I think that might have, I don't know. Yeah, for sure. I mean, but Paul's a super clean driver for Paul. I mean, it surprised me. I don't think, I really don't think Paul meant to do it at purpose at all. I've seen Paul get pushed around before and not get that mad.

Like, you know, especially with Harris, and you think he would cut the young guy a little more slack, but, you know, I don't like you said. Paul had a fast car, though. He looked really loose to start with, and later in runs, he'd come on and come on. Oh, yeah. You know, he's probably one of the better cars, but he could never get the track position because everybody was racing so hard. Yeah. Basically everybody was using each other. Yes.

And, you know, you almost had the slide job. Yeah. I can, like I said, 100 and whatever degree. But that's also a short track racing as well. Right, it was short track racing. Short track racing, cars are closer together. Guys are, they're going to hit more, and things like that are going to happen. NASCAR does not penalize Eric Jones when he stays out after driving over the commitment box during the last caution.

Spot on, spot off. TJ. I mean, spot on, I think. think it was done by the roll book. I think that call was made exactly how the rollbook's written now. So I don't have any issues with it. We've had some issues with it in the past where, you know, guys would cross the line with two tires and turn back out, you know. Now I think the rule is if you have two tires inside the box and you turn back out, you're still illegal. But if you get four in, you're committed. So, but if, yeah, if you have four inside the box and you turn back out,

that's a commitment line violation, but I guess you're allowed to drive two across it now and turn back out. So if you drive two across it and pit, that's a commitment line violation. To across it and go back out or not. So it's a little confusing to the fans and even to us. I mean, when it happens live, live action. Yeah, we all see it and we're all like, ooh. We all like, man, that might be a penalty. I don't know.

But I think NASCAR nailed it by the rollbook. So I got no issues with that at all. I'm going to bring this up because we talked about before the show started. but you mentioned you guys were tagged in a tweet about, you know, inconsistent calls by NASCAR. I mean, they still feel. They're just lineups. Like, there for a little while. And I knew it, I knew going into this year with David Hoots being gone, it was going to be,

he just had such a good feel for the flow of the race. And he knew, he knew what we, some of us would try to do. And I, you know, no one in particular. But when you're lining up and you get a preferred lane, you're probably going to stay in it until you're told. not to be in it. And that's part of the problem. We're all greedy. We all want the best line. We all want the best spot. It's the outside everywhere we go now, just about. Yeah, but we're all greedy for ourselves. And if you're, sometimes you, you know you're in the wrong spot. But you're so far back, you're hoping you don't get caught because you're hoping to go from 18th to 14th or 13th or on the restart. So you're greedy until they tell you to move. Like a lot of times I'll tell my driver, I'll say, just get what you can get. I'll tell you if they say something in me. Yeah, when you're coming up in the rain over and you're trying to get back up through there.

A couple guys will lay over, a couple guys are a few back. You're like, just get what you can get and we'll see what happens, you know. And I said before that I feel like sometimes we're kind of at fault as well as the drivers, you know, because you're trying to get what you can get. Right. You know, and this puts NASCAR in a tough call.

It does. You've got one lap to find all this out and put us in the right spot. Yeah, and usually it's in the back and you're coming to green. It's usually the second half. Like, it's from 20. 12th, 14th, I'm back most of the time. But I feel like we control a lot of that,

and we contribute to a lot of that. And we can make it easier. I still think we should double up with two to go. Yes, I have thought that as well. I think we should get the line up straight on the two to go. Especially at short tracks, mile and a half, I'm okay with still, but at a short track, maybe a mile and under,

double up with two to go. Especially, I think at the end of a race, it would be. Yeah, I don't. Because that's when it's most of it's going on. the extra lap and know that the lineups were completely right, then rush it and know that somebody might not be, you know, especially if you're on the losing end of it, you know, if you know you're supposed to be 14th and some guy sped up and got out there and now you're 15th and you're on the inside and you know he's going to be, he's going to be eighth off a turn two and you're going

to be 18th. You don't want that. No. I'd rather run the extra lap. Well, you really don't have to run an extra lap if you could call the two to go one night earlier. But I'm saying I don't mind if it has an extra lap, though. We get it. I hate adding caution laps to that in the race.

But I think if it makes it right, though. If it makes it right. Yeah. To me, I want it to be as level and fair. So, you know, two to go. Let's double up now. That gives them time to send the wave rounds. You see who's going to drop back.

You get the penalty cars where you want them and where you need them. Sometimes a two to go is, yeah, I think you could do it. I think you could do it now. Yeah. But you could just start it. All I have to do is start it. you know, the second time by, when you're letting those guys, when you're letting those lap cars, the second time by,

the second time the pits are open, that's two to go. Right. If your tracks ready, that's two to go. That way when they come off pit road, your lead lap cars are already going to be lined up. If they're pitting with the lap down cars, they line up where they come out. So you got your lead-lap cars already set. Let them cars come out. Drop your penalty cars back.

You know, you got time to get all that done. So I think we should double up with two to go. Last topic. Kevin Harbick and Denny Hamlin's last lap. Battle for the win. How about you, Tim? I mean, it was a good, great battle. How nervous were you?

I was nervous, you know, I mean. I was nervous if you went into three in the groove where you were. Yeah. I was nervous. Well, I mean, we went into one on the white flag, and I said, you know, Denny has been good on the bottom. Yeah, he dove down there. I said he's going to, you know, he's going to go low and obviously we blocked the bottom.

Yeah. He got inside of his still and, you know, made a run down the back. He got a little loose off of two, I think. And, I mean, so we go down and I'm like, get on his right rear, get on his right rear. And we go down into three. And I'm not sure where Denny's going to go at this point. And he goes high, so, and gets a run. And we had lap traffic.

Kevin Swarever to the bottom. Right. Kevin Swever to the bottom. To miss the lap traffic to get some clean air. And it was a lot going on. And then he got the outside of us. And from then on, I mean, I said he's there, he's there. Just get up, get up, get up. I just told him, get up.

Yeah. I think. We moved up and. I think Kevin knew what you're in control when you're on the bottom and the guys behind you or anything like that. You can control where he goes. Exactly. If he gets on the inside of you, he's going to drive it into where his right front gets in front of your left front. And he's going to carry you wherever he wants.

And he's going to win the race. Exactly. So, and Denny knows that. Denny's no slouch. Denny knows exactly. Yeah, and so I knew that if Danny got on the outside of Kevin, he would just open the wheel up. And I mean, I don't, nothing wrong with that short tracking.

That was a fun race. It was a good race to watch. And I thought I was a fun to watch, you know, when Kevin swear to the bottom, Danny was like, okay, well, I'm going to try to make it work anyway. And there was just two good, too good short track veterans kind of, in my opinion, duking it out there at the end. I thought so, too. I mean, Danny race just clean.

you know, we used him up a little bit. I don't think there is, I mean, he rubbed you a little bit into one and got beside you and We gave it back off of four, you know? Yeah, I don't. Like good short. I mean, we come up on the good end of it, so I guess, you know, if you're the 11 team, you're going to beg to dear for a little bit, but. Yeah, I don't.

I mean, I think that they would have done the same thing to us in. Well, that's, if the role is reversed. And I don't, like, you know, I don't, I don't got a problem with it. As long as you're not destroying something, as long as he don't run down into three and just send you, all the way of the fence and wreck you, that, that's not right. Nor would have been right if we'd erect him. Yeah, like the end of Martinsville, whenever he sent Chase,

I didn't agree with that stuff. Like, I don't think he meant to wreck him. But, you know, I don't think, I don't agree with just destroying cars like that. But, man, if you two guys are rubbing through three and four coming to the finish, how does it get better than that's a race? You know, I know someone's going to lose and not be happy about it. Exactly.

But, like, when we won Martinsville last year, you know, Martin Claredes of a two and Joe went down to three and hit him just enough to get inside of him and then we race side by side off the corner. I don't know how much better of a short track race you can get than that. Excitement for the fans and going back. I mean, you were watching that race, weren't you?

Yeah. Was it exciting? Yes. I mean, was it fun to watch? Like, it was better than someone being five or six car lengths out in front and nothing happening, right? I mean, I will say mid-race definitely a little bit slower,

but towards the end. Yeah, well, I'm just saying like a pass like that, Like, were you nervous going into three, like watching the race? Like, what was getting ready to happen? Yeah. Exactly. But that's, and you had two other, you know, two other great drivers racing back to the line for a win. I mean, that's a great race in my opinion.

I can't imagine the better finish on. Yeah. You didn't expect him to catch him because he fell back for a little bit. No, I mean, it kind of caught me off guard too. We had lap traffic ahead of us. Yeah, that's not got. It would have never, I don't think we'd ever been in that position if we wouldn't have run up on the traffic. No, yeah.

And so, you know, it came quickly and decision from raid quickly. Don't worry. I'm not going to tell Andy how bad you're cussing him. I'm just kidding. I mean, you know, I guess if we wouldn't have won, yeah. Yeah, you don't want to, nobody wants to be that guy. So, you know, it's just sometimes bad timing happens on, it's not the first time it's happened and it's not going to be the last time it happened. So it's just part of racing.

It's like getting a flat tire. It happens. Yep, sure does. We're not going to, how come we don't spot on, spot off? Like, are we going to talk about Stenhouse and them? Did you see that? Stenhouse said he's got one coming, but he's running for the plate. He's trying to make the playoff, so he's got one coming.

To Jones. Oh, yeah, he did say that. I didn't see that. Yeah, I guess Eric used him up a little bit and it cut his tire, which I can understand. I mean, that wouldn't make anybody happy. If you rub somebody, you better hope they don't have a problem. Right. I got no problem with rubbing. Rubman's fine, but if you cut their tie, if you ruin their race, that's a different story.

Yeah, I mean, so. Now, does NASCAR, like, he obviously made that comment on TV, and I know they like the excitement. Wait a minute. What? Last year, Daytona. Right. Who won the race? Eric Jones.

Who took out half the field? Ricky Stenhouse. Oh, solid point. I mean, not that he did it on purpose, but that helped him out. a lot, really. I'm just saying, I mean. True. I'm just saying.

But I mean, this is cool for the sport, though. I mean, it's good to have two guys, you know, like not wrecking each other, but two guys that are racing hard. Yes, this is like. The passion is there and the fans are going to support their driver. We don't need guys destroying each other, but we need rivalries. We need, you know, we need two guys that are going to rough each other up a little bit. Like, hey, I'm going to catch you and knock you out of the way a little bit.

And then, like, we need that. That's what makes the racing exciting. You know, it makes it great. So I'm excited. Came out of New Hampshire. Of all places. Yeah, good point. Before we take a break, we want to take a moment of silence for Nick Harrison,

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Only 30 seconds. How are you going to stop? Some talking games. Good luck. Fast lane. First question. Five cup drivers crashed their primary cars in practices at New Hampshire. Did the traction compound contribute to this?

And is it necessary? at a track like New Hampshire. TJ? You know, the racing's been good. I thought the racing there was good before, but definitely there's two lanes there now. You can definitely, it was definitely a bottom groove that you could kind of hang a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Made for a good race. So I don't know if it's necessary, though. I kind of miss a short track where you could kind of, you're just better. You made your car better. But with the bigger wake with these cars and how stuck we are to the ground, I think this helps it.

But, and yes, I do think it may have contributed to some of them. You know, if you hang your right rear out a little too high on entry, it gets a little loose, there's just not enough racetrack to catch it. You're going to slide to the wall and you're going to wreck. What do you think, Tim? I don't really like the PJ1 at Loudon. I like the old style where you used to go in on the bottom. And then as a race worked on, we moved up, so there's two grooves anyhow.

I always thought there was two gurus at Loudoun by the end of the race, didn't you? Yeah. We had a lot softer tires in, too, though. Well, we did. Yeah, I mean, you won the race without pitting. Yeah, exactly. And so, yeah. You hang your, you know, they're getting in so hard, and the traction compound was right,

you're pushing it right to the limit getting in. A lot of guys were loose all weekend, and if you were, if you overshot that and were just a little too loose, man, it just took one little hiccup, one little wheel hop, and you were out of the grooving end of the fence. Yeah. Especially these young guys, too, they're a lot braver. They'll arc the corners a lot more. They'll arc it out, and that right rear is a foot out of the grip, you know, and, I mean, that's one thing that I don't like is there's grip here. There's not grip right here. Right. You know, so it's easier to get out of it. But like you. It used to lay rubber back in the day, but there was also quite a, there was also a lot more. It would lay rubber. I don't feel like we lay rubber down now like we used to. So I don't feel like it would be that effective.

We talked about this a little bit earlier. Alex Bowman and Eric Jones made contact on Pit Road on Sunday. What is the spot there's responsibility when the car is on pit road? Where does it end and the crew chief for the guys on pit road start? What do you think, Tim? Usually I drop the car to Rodney 10 away, and then Rodney gets him five away and into the box. And then going out of the box, Rodney will get him to the grass or to the wall or whatever it might be.

And he'll tell him who's outside one, you know, two wide, three wide, all clear. But at the same time, when he's clearing Kevin out of the box, if someone is coming around us, like a slower car, I try to give him a heads up, hey, the so-and-so is coming outside. He's five back. You know, as we're putting on our left sides maybe, getting ready to drop the jack and leave. you try to give that heads up. You look ahead of time before the race to see who's up there, who's in front of you,

and try to give the crew chief heads up. But a lot of times, you know, it's hard to do. Yeah, I'm the same way. I hand Joey off the Todd at 10 away. But a lot of times in the lower series, you know, even Xfinity sometimes, depending on who your crew chief is, sometimes they'll hand that responsibility

over the spotter to call them all the way in. And then when they drop the draft, the crew chief will usually, I think the crew chief just clears him one lane, you know, clear one lane, and he lets off the button. But you have to kind of be really aware on who you're pitted around and who might be coming around you. Like, you should know before you come to pit road who might be coming around you late. And if that guy's running, normally it's like a gentleman's agreement. If you're in the last five, six cars on that lap, you're going to let that guy go.

If he's up there in the top 15 or something like that, you're going to wait. It's usually whoever's running better. It's kind of a gentleman's agreement, but sometimes you have two guys that just, Yeah, we've all done it. Oh, yeah. As a spotter, I've seen it happen. You try to prevent it. Yep.

But there's certain circumstances where it happens, and we all, you know, it's a bad deal. After using the current arrow package at Pocono in June, what components of an arrow package do you think would produce the best racing at Pocono? T.J. Oh, man. I feel like we're too sealed in the front and too high in the back. so I don't know

I don't know if it's really matters what ducks you put in the thing or anything like that I'm not huge I don't know a lot about the arrow stuff I just know that we're I know they are you know they're this low to the ground

they're you can't even tell so they're sealed off in the front so I don't know I'd like to go back to something where they're just not a slam in the front somehow yeah I don't know what the fix is if it's

it's arrow or what at Pocono. It's just a tough race track with three totally different corners and a lot of room in between them. They did put the PJ1 down for this race, and I heard there's a lot of it down. Yeah, in different areas. Kind of like what's just different. Yeah, so we don't know what we got there. Maybe that'll be something that'll get them bunched up a little more.

But Pocono is just one of them checks. It's kind of like a road course. You just get spread out, and I don't know if you could ever really pack them up just because everything is so different on each end. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know if, we don't have to be going super fast in my opinion. The speed doesn't bother me, really. I watched a Bristol race from a handful of years ago, and they were six seconds slower a lap, and they were having a great race.

You know, we don't have, it's like Brett always thinks we need to be going fastest and, and all that. But, you know, I just, if there's no, if you're, if there's a big hole in the air, the guy behind you, his car is automatically going to be worse. Like, there's just a disadvantage. We need to erase the disadvantage some. And I don't, I don't mind seeing these guys drive the car. So if you could knock half the spoiler off and see them drive, I'd be up for that too. I mean, you could also go the other way and knock more horsepower out of them and just pack them up like we do at Daytona just so that, you know, you'd just. You drove them like slot cars around there, but he's...

I don't mind. I would knock some horse power out, and I would take a ton of downforce out. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if that'd pack them up, don't make better racing. Do you think it would? I don't necessarily know we need to be packed up. I just know they need to be... I know.

I don't know. They just too stuck. They're like RC cars. Yeah. They're like RC cars going around. But we get separated at Pocono, too. I mean, it's not like it's... Pocono is a different type of track.

I mean, it's not like we race side by side bumper to bumpering. Yeah, it'll be different there too, though, because it's just there's guys are, it's just different, man. It's like a little road course. Yeah, it is. And you can pit there without losing a lap. So that throws a big monkey range. It's a big strategy race. Glad I'm not a crew chief.

Yeah, for sure. Off the wall question. A New Jersey man was caught doing 142 miles an hour on a 65 miles an hour interstate in New Hampshire on Saturday. Have you ever received a speeding ticket and how fast were you going? I just have to say, was this on the road by New Hampshire? Because I almost got hit by a car driving on that main road. Interesting. Not a NASCAR person?

Doesn't specify who it was. Interesting. Someone from New Jersey. All right. I mean, that narrows down a Truex. Tim, what do you think? Have you received a speeding ticket? Oh, yeah.

I've got speeding tickets. Not quite that fast. Thank God. And I don't think I've ever went that fast on the highway. But that's scary. That is scary. I mean, you think about it. I have a 10-year-old daughter.

You hit 90, you're like, wow, I'm going fast. This is 140. I did 80 on the way here, and I think the speed limit was 70, and then I was like, I better pull it down a little bit. So in 80, to me, if the speed limit's 70, correct me if I'm wrong, and you do 75 to 80, that's kind of common, right? Like, you're getting run over on 7. Yeah, I think 8.

Especially on 485. Yeah, I think 10 and under is like acceptable. To me, that's pretty fast on the highway. Yeah. And I used to drive race cars or some people would say I did. So that's pretty, you know, if you get out of control, if you get out of control, 80 miles an hour is fast. Right. Yeah.

Especially with cars around you. But 140, what was it? 142. I think so. Really, the problem with 142 is fine. It's great. Yeah, you're probably still, if it's a straight highway, you're probably still in control. But you're going to catch somebody or you're going to catch something that's not going to be expecting you'd be doing 140.

40 and it's like, like, this is why motorcycle scare me. I'm not worried about myself driving the motorcycle. I'm worried about the person that doesn't see me. So somebody's not going to see you. Yeah, that's, I've never, I don't think I've ever gotten a speeding ticket. Come on. I think I ever have. And I'm 10 over everywhere I go.

Like, I don't think I ever have, yeah. So, yeah, I'm pretty lucky, I guess. I'll probably get one today. What about you, Casey? I did get two speeding tickets. The first one, though... Did you actually get the ticket or did you start crying and get out of it? No, I...

Did you try to cry? Oh, she did. I don't remember. No, you did. No, because the second one, I got a girl. And if it's like, if you're a girl and there's a girl, you just know... The first one, you cried. The first one, I definitely cried and he, like, minimized it or something.

I knew it. But I did go back. back after because it was like a neighborhood. And I remember there was a 45 speed limit. And looking back on it, I should not have gotten the ticket because I was not speeding. Apparently you were. I was not. It was like a speed track in a neighborhood.

So you whipped up some, you're like the kid in the Christmas story. When that ice cycle hits him in the face, he's like, oh, get some tears going. So, Mom thinks I, you know. Yeah, he got that right. I definitely love you. I will say this on speeding tickets. If you plan on driving to Darlington down 601, don't speed. Don't speed.

Do not speed. Do not speak. Yeah. Iowa too. When you get to McVee or McVee or whatever it is. My goodness. Iowa is the same way. It is bad.

They are waiting. Yes. Like swimming in shark-infested water. And the waters have been chummed. Yeah. What about you, Jason? No, not yet. Five years.

He's got his license. Five years driving. No speeding tickets yet. Well, he's got a scooter. It only hits 45. Oh. Christineauction.com is an online auction site with tons of cool, authentic, and affordable memorabilia. They have a ton of different auction types.

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Black flag them. Yes. This happened in the race. Which week? Every week. Well, this happened yesterday. This happened yesterday. So I got to the plane and we got a little time to kill. So I brought it up

and I was looking at this stuff. There was a 10 mile an hour. First of all, the pace car pulled off. Drop down 5 mile hour, pretty, you know, just coasting. And then we get into the restart zone and we drop from 45 to 40.2 with the brakes being applied and then we take off. That's a black flag to me. What's the pace car speed there? 50? 45 I think. I think they add five for the tape. Yes,

they did add five to the pace car. I'm sorry if pace car is pulling off and if you're restarting the race 10 miles an hour under the pace car speed. Well the rule or I don't know if it's a written rule but you're supposed to maintain pace car speed yes through the restart zone. I don't mind a couple mile an hour. Right. And two, three, a mile hour at that point is big. Yes.

Going down the highway, you know. But you know why the drivers do this. Like some are an advantage. You can do it in a couple different ways. Some people start the race in first gear that are bringing them down. Some start in second. So if you're in first, you're trying to get your ratio. Trying to get to your RPM range so you can take off.

The best. So, you know, it happens at, even at Michigan, it happens at the short tracks. It happens everywhere. people are playing with the ratios to get the best for a restart jump. So they used to get penalized for it. It seems like lately it's not been enforced much. You know, I got a, I don't have a problem with it. You know, if you say it within five, mine hour, like I get it.

Like, Jeff Gordon was the best at, like, Matt Kansett did it well. Like, that was kind of like before they started enforcing it. And I think that was some of the reasons they did over the years. Yeah. They tried to get away from that. But, you know, Hornaday was. was good at bringing you down and he'd do a little break check and take off and get everybody jacked up. I mean, that was, it was kind of cool in a way, but we got away from that for so long,

and now we're starting to creep back to it. And all those really just tear up cars. Yeah, guys, like, it's the guy's third, and there's nothing spotters can do in enough time anyway. When you're supposed to be going green and you're hitting the brakes, there's going to be wrecks. Guys are tearing their cars up. And I don't have a problem with the leader, you know, okay, creeping down a little bit. it like within a five nine hour radius i don't think you can do anything with that but if there's brakes being applied and then taking off i've got a problem with that so that's not that tears

up race cars the the guy in sixth and eighth place inside that when you get back in that area man hoods get buckled and it's not it's not supposed to be going yeah and look i get it like a little bit of games do you slow down a little bit you know coasts up there take off late go early the next time i mean It's a game. It's a cat and mouse game. But I just have a problem when you hit the brakes and then take off. Like that, I can't, like, this shouldn't happen. Next one is from Dubs 1023.

After Matt DeBanedetto's fifth place finish, do you think he deserves to stay in that ride next season and keep improving? What do you think, Tim, you first? Well, I think he deserves to be in a ride, yes. You know, you can't speak for, you. You know, the team's decisions because it's based on money and it's based on manufacturing nowadays. It's not about deserving nowadays.

Right. It has nothing to do with that. Yes, I think he deserves to be in the ride. Ross-Saint probably deserves to be in a top 10 cup ride. But, you know, we just can't, you know, it's a business and I understand it. And you have to look at it that way. But I, you know, the racer in me says, yeah, man, this guy, he's impressive. He's done good.

And, you know, a lot of respect for him. I think Matt's done a good job. He was the one in there. he is I think he's performed well I think he's performed well I think he's done I think he's been a great teammate to them guys as far as when they needed him to help get in line you know plate racing stuff like that I think he's been a super teammate so put eight pounds in his left rear and go out and try to run it

and practice in Hampshire or that too yeah I mean he's been a great teammate I think is that he's done everything I think everyone they've asked him to do as far I don't know anything, but I'm just saying I think he's been a great teammate. And I think he's done everything he could with what he was handed. Now it's not in his hands from here on out, I don't think. I think it's up to, you know, who's being pushed along. And if they need a spot, you know, I don't, you know, how old is Matt?

Look this up yesterday, 27. Yeah, I mean, if you got a, how is Chris Ravel? 26 or something, I think. 23? Christopher Bell. It's your second boyfriend. 24. Okay, so you got a

you got a young guy coming up through probably going to be an experience. Has he won a championship? No. No. But he's in the championship running every year. He wins. How many races he won this year? He's on five already, right? Yeah, so he's, I mean,

he's building the resume right to move up. This is the second year. Anything after this year, in my opinion, is going to, hurt him. So I think it's time unless he's, unless they come to him and say, hey, you know, we really need you to run one more year. After this year, this is your car. That's a different type. That's a different scenario. But Christopher Bell can't wait around forever because after his stock's up here right now and stocks fall after a while. You can't just stay up there. So have you heard any

rumors like where people are going? Your second boyfriend wants to tell us. I wasn't talking about Christopher. I was saying in general. Anybody? Honestly, it's been pretty quiet. Usually at Daytona is when it starts picking up. I know they announced Larson said he's coming back or whatever. Larson said he's coming back. Yeah, said he was coming back to Gannasi next year.

So great for the 42 bunch. You know, I don't, Kurt's still on, I don't know, they've had any. Is he another years? I haven't heard that officially yet. I mean, I heard like after the win, he said, man, this should sure help for things for the future. Yeah. Which Kurt? I mean, he's quietly running really well.

well. Like, he's top like four to seven every week. I mean, Kurtz, we talked about last week. He's good. He's awesome. He's a great, great driver. Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, I think those two make a pretty good teammate. I mean, teammates, I think those two. I think those two mix well together. And I think Larson's been building a little momentum here. He's had a rough weekend last weekend, but he was fairly quick at Kentucky. And, you know, I think he, you know, it'd be good to see him get back on a streak there. And, you know, it's good to see them guys. kind of carrying the

Chevys, I guess. Yeah, well, I mean, Hendrick has had a win and they're running better. Yeah, I guess Bowman had them top, you know, three second places in a row. So, yeah, but it's, you know,

it's good to see them guys run well, though. It is. Last one is from Updates Fanatic. If you can invent one thing to make spotting easier, what would it be? You know, Brett would say, like, a tent over his spotter stand. You know, I was thinking about this out of random nowhere, too, because I take my kids to the parks quite a bit.

And every time I go to the park, I see these portable, like, not portable, but like removable, like, what do you call that? Like nylon or whatever. The little, like they make them in shapes too, like. Mila are like over a shade. Yes, just like, and it would be so simple to do. And I'm not complaining about being on the roof or anything, but we're in the sun a lot. You know, we're in the sun a ton. like and it starts

it makes me nervous to be in the sun I mean I put sunblock on wear the sleeves and stuff and we all do we all do but it'd be nice to have shade it'd be nice

and I don't even care about like I just want something to block the sun so it's not direct sunlight on me I don't need AC fans or anything like that it makes it hard too to read like your fan vision you're trying to read some data

the glare it's just like your cell phone I'm more worried about like like the health you know like dying yeah like you know we're in the sun a lot how hard would it really be

to put some of that stuff up, just three little rectangles or something, just to cover us some. Like, it doesn't have to be a room or anything like that. Just something. Yes. Like, you know, and I know we're not really thought of a lot at the racetracks and stuff, but...

Oh, I think of you. Don't worry. Well, thank you. Yeah. Well, you know what I mean, though. Yeah, no, fair. Well, I mean... I think there was one track that had...

They did have a sponsored, like, cover rate. There was one track that you guys said that there was shade. Maybe it was two years ago now. Not anymore. Just kidding. I don't know. I don't ever remember that.

Scrabs not. But, yeah. Well, Tal Degas building a new Spires stand, right? Maybe we can get somebody to, like, just, we can get the tracks that put the posts up to hook it to, and we can just put it up. Yeah, we'll bring the banner. We'll get somebody, we'll get a sponsor to sponsor the banners, you know, then we'll put them up. Track employees, if you're listening. TSA, please help.

I'm just worried about being in the sun that much, man. Yeah, fair. especially on a weekend like last weekend it was brutal what else do we want to rant about well I already ranted so anything you guys can expect in Pocono whether it be on track off track drama

heart shape bathtubs yeah you know bars to go to we were just there recently so maybe we'll see a bear I look forward to going to Pocon see a bear I've seen one bear I've seen one in the dumpster at the holiday. Oh, wow.

And a lady backed herself up to the dumpster within like two feet of it, and the bear was doing a selfie. And I'm like, and I had my iPad, so I'm video on it. Because if this bear attacks her. Yeah, he's just, I'm going to have documentation. This is great. Did an attacker, clearly. Did you win Pelagone?

Nope, but I didn't get this bear, mottomous woman. I've seen one. bear but it was we were driving but yeah you're gonna see you like Pocono TJ I mean do you like going up there? I do too I do I like Pocono. A lot of people are like there's nothing to do there's nowhere to go

you know sometimes I just like the racing yeah I like I like I like going to Pocono and I like I like the race because it runs a little bit like a road course because you'll have the guys that are pitting with two to go before the stage ends you're gonna have those guys coming up here for a track position later after the cycle So it's kind of a, I don't know, restarts are, resarts are crazy.

There's many, many photographs and pictures taken from the end of the front stretch at Pocono for, you know, how wild they are. But I like going to Pocono and it should be pretty fun. I'm looking forward to it. Cool. Well, what about TBC picks? T.J. finally won. Good God. It's been like two months.

It's been forever. Your last win was at the 600. So Brett's picking Austin Dillon. Where are we going, Pocono? You know? Oh, man. I am going to roll with Buescher. That's my pick.

Chris Buster. Pass race champion. Brett's picking Austin Dillon. T.J.'s picking Bisher. Tim, who would you pick? Does he have all the drivers? You know what? We're going to give him all of the drivers.

He's going to have an opportunity to pick the favorite. You can pick anybody. The favorite? Yeah. Kevin Harvick. Well, I mean, we'll be fast. I think it'll be a race between Kevin Harvick and Kyle Bush. Kyle's really been good there.

He's been on a roll probably the last three times, TJ. I mean, four races he's probably been fast. That's one of Kyle's good tracks. It is. You know, I think he'll be the car to beat. it's one of his good tracks. So, yeah, he'll be tough to beat there. Let's, yeah, he'll be tough.

Moving on to the movie review. Yes, I watched Fast Times at Richmond High last night. It wasn't my favorite, but it was like, they had some funny moments. I thought about you. It's a little dated. Yeah, it's like some, I was thinking that's probably my parents' time when they were in high school, just thinking about how bad. But when, like, the kid ordered pizza in class, I thought it was pretty funny.

Like, I wish I could do that in college and just in front of 120 people. bring in a pizza, that'd be pretty funny. And then, oh, the guy threw the coffee on the robber at the end, and he ran, like, that's pretty smart. Or when they wrecked the Trans Am. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It's a great movie, but it is dated. I guess I'm dated, too. I still like that movie. That's a classic, yeah. What's his next one? Any other recommendations? I don't know, Titanic. Seemed that.

Oh, that's cute. Gosh, he has no idea about, like, when Terminator came out. Like, those were like... Have you seen the Rocky movies? No. Yeah, but we can't just... Can't do one of them, though.

There's too many of them. I know. It has to be like a one-off, like Shawshank or... I'm looking here. We got like Edwards, his her hands. Oh, that was a good one. Yeah, that was pretty good, but... Saving Private Ryan was...

Did you see that one? No, I haven't seen that one. Oh, the beginning of that one's like... You remember the beginning of that one? Holy cow. It's on T-Private. be a lot actually. The Blair Witch Project.

Dumb and Dumber. Dumb and Dumber. Have you seen Dumb and Dumber? Great. I don't think so. Okay, that one. Dumb and Dumber. I don't see any.

Never seen Dumb and Dumber. Dumbent. That's what you're... Never seen it. That's what you got this week. What about American Pie? No, I saw that one. Yeah, we had it already.

Warm apple pie. Yeah. Cool. Hang on, I'm on a roll here. Save it. You already has one. Save it. I know.

It's saying on. Keep going. You're good. All right. So the Clemson football. still at $20. We'll check back next week and hopefully we'll be able to give Brett the good news that he won a Clemson signed football.

We're winning something, Clemson. For sure. Thank you for listening. Don't forget to tweet us some feedback. Make sure it's all good feedback. Retweet it, like it, share it. Thank you, Tim, for joining. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome for coming on. Hey, I appreciate it, guys. Thank you very much for having me. Anytime you want to come on, we'll just tell us.

Brett that he's out. Yeah. Let us know. Yeah, I had a lot of good feedback from you being on the show, too. People were, it was funny because people were getting in the elevator and be like, oh, Tim, I heard you on there. Yeah, the show was the best one I heard. Coming from the boss, that was, Brett, me and, should I tell us the story?

Yeah, absolutely. Me and Brett, get on the elevator, and Junior and Lattart, they're all going up to TV booth. And I didn't, I said, hey, to Junior. And about halfway up, he nudged me, oh, by the way, that was the best DBC ever. And Brett's like, oh, man, come on, and give me. So it was perfect. It was pretty funny. Yeah, that was perfect.

That's awesome. Yeah, so hopefully he'll listen to this one too. Yes. Maybe he'll promote our show during his show. Actually, he did that last week. That's what. Good. So we show up for this show every weekend.

His truck's parked out front, and there's parking lots on, like, three sides of this building. He literally parks right in front, like in front of the mailboxes even, like he owns the place. That's what I said walking in. So he can park in the garage if you want to see. I'm like, man, this guy just parks like he owns the place. There's some great people out there. They're really nice waiting for him. It's nice having him at the racetrack now because I see him, you know,

he was a vacationing in the first half of the year. Isn't it cool to see, like, the retired drivers? Like, even Burton and DJ and. Yeah. Like, you can just talk to him. Well, it's cool because. You know, I don't, I think a lot of the guys in a roof have a different perception of Dale Jr. now, too, is.

because he'll come out between broadcasts, like between practices or something, he'll come out there and sit with us and go up to talk to people. And these are people like he probably used to see him at the racetrack when they were racing, you know, back in the day a little bit and talked every now and him.

And then, you know, he went to the Cup series or whatever, and then you didn't see him really much at all. I didn't get to talk to him. Like Jimmy, we used to be tight. We used to be buddies. We used to go out. And, you know, he goes to the Cup series and, you know, now I'll wave him in the garage.

Jimmy, what's up. You know, we all talk, but it's not like, you know, but same with Junior. But now, I think spotters are, you know, he's come up to almost, he's coming to also. He talks to all of us. Yeah, like, you know. And he, I think it's, I think it's cool that he does that. You can just tell he is, well, he's in a good spot. He's in a good spot.

Yeah, for sure. So, all right, well, we will come back next week. Hopefully, Brett takes this 14th show of the season off. And we can talk about the 22 in Victory Lane. be fun. That would be great. Make it happen. I'll do my best. Have a great week, everyone. Thank you for listening. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Dirty Mo.