Door Bumper Clear - 146 - Payback and Love Letters

Episode Date: August 5, 2019

Freddie Kraft returns after Bubba Wallace turns Kyle Busch at Watkins Glen to discuss that with the gang and Jimmie Johnson vs Ryan Blaney, Justin Allgaier vs Ross Chastain, and AJ Allmendinger’s DQ while Brett takes on the Clemson football.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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clear and I'm Hannah Newhouse back again filling in for Casey Boat. We have a full studio today with not two but three spotters in the house as Freddie Kraft returns with T.J. and Brett. They'll discuss Bubba Wallace turning Kyle Bush, Jimmy Johnson versus Ryan Blaney, Chase Elliott battling Martin Truex Jr. for the win and the playoff bubble heating up and much, much more. Let's go. That's T. TJ majors. This is Gregman. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Be ready. Take out here. New leader. Watch out for this guy. White flag. Hello, hello, clear. Bring all.

Three light. George, Sutterer, clear. Hey, everybody. I am T.J. Majors, spot of the 22 Cup car, the winning 22 Xfinity car, my one and done. Yeah, you enjoy that. Why did you spot for the 22? Because his normal spotter is Josh Williams, who is my roommate on the road as well. and Josh also spots for Ryan Blaney.

So they both ran, and I guess Blaney has precedence over it. As much as Blaney screams at that guy on radioactive, I'm surprised he wanted him to spot for him in Xfinity. Yeah, so they, Josh slides over. Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about. He gets screamed out all the time. He gets screamed out more on radioactive than any of us combined. Yeah, he does get yelled at a lot.

I think it's gotten better in the last month or so. Has it? Yeah, it's gotten a lot better. He finally learned how to spot. Is that what happened? I don't know. I'm not going to get into this. What do you think, Freddie?

I don't know. I'm pretty sure he gets apologized to right after he gets yelled at, though. He does. He does get apologized. I think Blaney gets just a little bit of heat of the moment for old Y.R.B. Blaney gets wound up. Yeah. Brett Griffin, Spotter, Clint Boyer, also had AJ Almadinger this weekend.

Loser. Who was trying to win the race, but he didn't. I think you finished last. Yeah, he did. I think we finished second. Then we got demoted to last. Is this another one of them races you're going to count but doesn't really count? I mean, you know what, man?

I think I got finished second. I saw him finish second. We crossed the line in second, therefore it's legal. So you're telling me if I had to won a race and had a motor with 12 cylinders and got thrown it afterwards, you say I still won? You finished first, but then you lost. Freddy Crafts in the house? What did you guys? I mean, it seems weird.

You called me last night to see if I wanted to come on today. I don't know. I don't know. If you have something in mind, you guys want to talk about? Yeah. We thought you, for the first time all year, may actually be relevant in conversation as it pertains to NASCAR. After the All-Star race, he was relevant. Yeah, you were definitely relevant.

You were relevant at Pocono, too, kind of. Yeah. So, anyway. So, Freddie, what, yeah. Should we talk about it now or wait? No, let's wait. Okay, we'll wait. We also have the gorgeous.

Just, no, we already talked about. We already talked about me. Yeah, we're on the, we're on a Hannah now. Oh, man, I am not prepared for today. That's not Freddy's voice. Welcome back. Yeah, Hannah Newhouse here back once again. I guess Casey, man, she's just letting me, it's like shared custody at this point.

Share custody. Yeah, have you guys, like taking care of the children? That's what we should do. We should do every other show, y'all alternate. That's rude. Or want some, y'all should just pick a month. Everybody do a month. Every other month?

Yeah. Well, you took a month off. I know. And y'all ordered that stupid ass football over there while it's gone. We don't need to talk about that month off ever again. Is this the month that you broke yourself? No, that was the other month I took off. That was the month I broke my ass on a boat in the Exumas.

The last month that I took off, Freddie and I went to the Lake of the Ozarks, and then we went in Myrtle Beach. Next week, Freddie and I are going to Atlanta. It's his birthday. I'll be 37. I'll be 37. No way you'll remember turning 37. Zero chance.

Why Atlanta? The Mets are actually in town to play the Braves. Aren't you going on a cruise too soon? I'm going on a cruise with Doug Campbell in a couple weeks. Brett don't like cruises. I don't do cruises, man. Just you and Doug? Yeah, just me and Doug.

We got a pink-sized bag. No, it's actually obviously me and my wife. Doug and my brother are going. Which chick is Doug taking? I don't know. His brother? My brother, probably. They're going to, you know, I don't know.

It might end up being Doug's brother. Doug is, how old is Doug? 25? No, he's 26 or 27, yeah. You and Doug are buddies, right? Yeah, me and Doug are good friends. So Doug we're talking about spots for the 95 car. I should, I could go.

Yeah, why wouldn't you? Come on. Are you going on the cruise? No, I'm not going on this cruise. No, why not? We actually need a roommate for John, so I mean. Is that Bristol? You guys leave the Sunday after Bristol, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's bad. planning. Well, no, no, we leave to Monday. Okay. No, I'll definitely not leave it Sunday. You know you would have won Bristol if you planned it. I would, I know it rained out if I planned it on.

Then you would have won. Then you would have won. Yeah. Did that. Last year, we planned the Disney cruise and we weren't, my wife planned it, not even, you don't really know what's going to happen with the championship. So she planned it. And yeah, it got real interesting, looking for flights to the last minute and stuff.

So, yeah, well, thanks for coming back, Hannah. You know, we... Appreciate it. We need of this guidance. We're doubling your pay. Yeah. Do we tell you that? Appreciate it.

Thanks. You're now going to make zero dollars. Yeah, thank you. TJ hoards all the money, so there's nothing left to pay the rest of us. I save it up because I know I'm going to bail Brett out sooner or later. We can do a door bumper clear episode live from the front office. Arraignment.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. We could just sit outside the cell and stick the mic through the cell. What do you think, Brett? It's not funny. Food sucks Oh man You said the food sucks?

This has been a You've had a pretty good summer Me? Mine's the You've had some bad luck on the track I've had some injuries Yeah I'm saying like As far as the trips you've been on

I know you broke your bottom there Yeah And then Feels a lot better You don't feel it No But I don't see you with that pillow anymore So that's good

Donut Yeah the donut But you uh I mean you swim with pigs Pigs jumping off boats Sharks Yeah, I mean, yeah. I've heard those pigs are mean.

No, they're not mean at all. Really? No, they're super-tank. Like, I've just heard, not mean, but like, not mean, but like, aggressive, because they're so used to people that I've heard they're just like. No, I promise, they're super chill. One of the guys get mean. Because they're big, and so they like.

Freaking wild hog. Did you say super chill? What has it been a pig in a wild hog? No, it's a super chill. But what happened is the guy, one of the crew guys on the boat jumped on the back of a 300-pound pig, and he literally, when I tell you, he jumped on top of it, I don't mean like a horse. I mean, like he went all, all his hands all way around his neck.

This thing went to squealing like he had stabbed it. I mean, it went absolutely nuts. It's trying to buck him off. It takes off running. It runs over someone, okay? And I don't know who the someone is because I'm really just like, holy, what the is going on out here? So I look, and there's a rooster tail behind this pig's ass as it's running.

Next thing you know, I see somebody laying in the ground in the water with their cell phone up. But I'm like, damn, I think I recognize that cell phone. I think that's Claudius. All of a sudden, Claudia's heads comes popping up. She's got blood on her leg, blood on her chest. This thing trampled her. Literally.

But her phone was fine. But they're nice. Who was riding it? It's one of the crew guys. One of the guys on the boat. This entire time I pictured it being you and it made it awesome. I don't think, I don't know that I have, and I'm dumb, right? But I don't know that I'm that dumb.

I don't know that I would jump on the back of that wild pig. Do you know what mutton busting is? No way. Button busting. Yeah, yeah. So it's what we used to do the county fair when I was little. It's like they have sheep and they get kids and they put them on. Okay, you're off the show.

You're gone. No, no. You like hold on to the sheep like that and they let them out and the kid that holds on the longest wins like a bunch of money. Yeah. We used to do that. Maybe that's what's wrong with me. Mutton busting. So some bad news.

We lost our last pristine auction bid that Rob Gruncowski signed Patriots element. But good news. Brett's, I mean, Casey's item that she won for Brett came. We have a Clemson football signed by Ben Bowler on the table now. Who? Who's the guy? Ben Bullware. He was on the 2016

National Championship team. I forget exactly what he did. Let me see that football now. I'm going to like casually talk this to you. No, hang out. I just want to get a good still shot with Brett in this. Better watch your fingers. I just want to see if I can see this guy's name.

I can't read that. What's that say? 2016 National Chance. I can't see it. Let me see. No, he's got. Give me that ball. I'm going to stab you.

Give me that ball. Jeremy, bring me that ball over here. Yeah, bring me that ball. I told TJ to back up. My kids know what happens when we see tigers. That's done. Go Cox. We don't do tigers.

This is what happens. So I met a guy this weekend by the name of Tom Bryant, who is a NASCAR official. And he was like, man, I've listened to your podcast. I've heard his name, never met him. He's like, we have a mutual hatred for something. I was like, what is it? He's like, Clemson. I was like, oh, yeah.

Tom Bryant is awesome. So, Tom, this is for me. This is for you. the Clemson Tigers, Casey, whatever. Don't build anything else. Anything Clemson will get deflated around here. That's what will happen. Aggressive, dude.

Yeah, let's put the deflated knife ball next to Hannah. Yeah. Well, we obviously can't leave next to Brett. Rest in peace. Damn, he mutton busted the heck out of whatever you can. You can leave that. Is it mutton? Yeah, mutton bustin.

Yeah, you can just leave that knife in that. Idaho, dude. I don't know what to tell you. Mutton busting. All right. T.J.'s turned a bit on a pristine. auction item this week, where we got, T.J. Well, I think Jason has some more.

I'm going to fill this table up with Buffalo Bill stuff. So it's all the thing I know I can. I think I saw something this week, T.J. That they're, you're the only team in the NFL that doesn't have one single player listed in the top 100 players in the league. So congratulations. You're going to continue to suck yet again. I'm fine with that.

But I can, I can keep bidding on Bill stuff for the table. Yeah, because it's cheap. And winning it. We got no. winning it. Well, Jason's in here trying to get Tom Brady's socks, you know, and he's... No, you're definitely the only guy bidding on this stuff. I have a high possibility of filling this table with Buffalo Bill. So, hey, pristine auction is doing me well.

So today we're bidding on a Thurmond Thomas signed Buffalo Bills football that's inscribed H-O-F-O-7. You know what that means? Yeah, Hall of Fame. It means, screw your list to the top Hunter. This is Hall of Fame. They have one Hall of Fame. Yeah. Well, no, we have more than one.

I actually was a huge Thurmond Thomas fan. He was great in the video games too. Yeah, if you got in... TechMobile. If you got in Tecmo Bowl, you wanted Bo Jackson or Thurman Thomas, basically. Or Eric Dickerson. Who was a dude from the 49ers? I remember him killing it.

Ronnie Law? No. Roger Craig? Oh, Roger Craig? Yeah. Roger Craig, Joe Montana. Yeah. But, yeah, I've waited in Alliance to get his autograph when I was probably 10 years old,

so this will be a cool item for me. So, man, that's actually a Rog. agree that's a cool item. That may be the only cool Buffalo Bills thing that we'd have a chance to get. So that we're going to start bidding on it, $20? Who coaches them right now? Doug McDermott. Who? The guy from the Panthers. Oh, he was a Panthers offensive coordinator two years ago. Yeah. So have a great season. Listen, man, you wait. Quietly watch the bills get better here. They're building. Yeah, they've been building since. How many bills had you see at Watkins Glen?

I didn't see any. I saw a ton of them. Did you see any? I mean, I mean, I didn't run. I mean, I didn't I saw one guy sat in front of us wore the same Mets jersey for three days, though. That was my man. It was only 90 degrees. By the way, I lived in that part of New York for a long time, and I looked down, and it felt like it was 95 degrees,

and you walked by me and like, man, what was it? What did it say it was? Like high 70s? There's absolutely no chance it was in the high 70s right down. It did. Rutledge Wood did an interview.

I watched the pre-race, and he was standing with a bunch of fans, and there was some guy that was fried and had a number nine. And then the 18 crossed through. On the back, yes. Yeah, yeah, but there was a couple people that he was just standing there with, and they were all so burnt. And I'd heard the weather was nice.

So I was like, how was everyone getting fried? So the one kid, I forget his name now. He tweets at me every once in a while, but he does that nine every year. And he used to do, it was NWR. It might have been Clint or Michael. I can't remember, but when Herm was doing Truex, I ran into that guy because I was there helping somebody.

and he had the damn either 15 or 56 shaped like burned into it this guy's been doing this for like 7 8 years so he's i mean he's probably needs to start talking to somebody about maybe some skin care or something but i mean he's been burning a hell out of himself forever if it's shaved it's okay i don't think it works that way it's just killed oh man all right we'll go on to spot on spot off next Spot on spot off He's spot off on the fucker You spot off you like it Spot off you don't like it

And you say why either way All right So there was a lot going on at Watkins Glen this weekend In terms of disagreements So there's a handful of them here We'll just make them quick and go through those ones Starting with Justin Allgaar versus Ross Chastain Brett Go

Hannah which side are you on? I didn't watch the race so What side are both of you on You go first. I ask you first. First of all, I love this stuff. This is drama, right? This is sports.

This is tempers flaring. This is the equivalent to a fight in the middle of a hockey game. So unless my guy's involved and I get literally the short end of the stick, then I'm going to be upset, right? But I watch this Justin Ross thing play out. And then I see Justin get out of the car and say, it's over. He handled it. And then I hear Ross get interviewed on his.

MRN. When I saw him pop up on the big screen, I immediately switched my scanner over to MRN to hear what he was said. And I think it was Kim Coon interviewing him and said, Ross, you made the comment that you're going to solve this problem. He's like, yeah, I will. Don't worry. And she's like, what are you going to do? And he's like, don't worry about it. I got it. So one guy says it's over. One guy says it's not. So I'm 100% spot on for what happened. I'm going to be, I mean, I watch this thing play out. And I look, Justin is a great race car driver and an even better guy. I actually talked to him when we got off the plane. Probably frustrated, right? I mean, here he is, two-thirds of the way through the season, hasn't really contended to win a lot of races.

Obviously, hasn't won a race. Only car to win here at JRM has been Michael Annette who won the season opener. So I'm sure he's very frustrated, and I think this is going to apply to later conversations. The fact that you're racing, Ross Chastain, driving the four car is probably your first problem. The fact that he wrecked you is obviously your second problem. I wouldn't think that if I were just an Al guy or driving JRM equipment, I would want to be racing Johnny Davis equipment. So I'm spot on. I got to be Team Ross here, though.

Are you looking to me like I'm next? Oh, so I have to say in this too? I'll go. She's flipping the soft one now. I ain't flipping you off. I got a scratch in my eye. I can see it from here. You got tear in your eye.

It's great to have some people, you know, angry with each other and handling it on the track or whatever they got to do. I don't know what all led up to it Apparently there's been some more things that have led up to this I don't know if Justin feels like he's been running it before by Ross But you know I can't he got turned by a guy And then he basically turned the guy back Yeah well I mean

That Justin could have wrecked a lot worse than what he did That's not there's no really good place to wreck at Watkins Glen And not have a big chance of having a pretty big incident Some of them end up being nothing, but there's an opportunity there at the Glen to get crazy wrecks. But I don't think this is a very wise decision on a lot of their parts because, you know, I don't know. I guess that was Ross's car for next week too. Ross hadn't running that car. Johnny Davis would be running.

But what I'm saying is this isn't a good battle to get in. Well, Justin tore up the car that Johnny Davis would have run in mid-Ohio. Yeah, but I mean, there's not a lot of them there to go. through. Yeah. You know what I mean? So to me, is this battle really worth getting into, you know, as far as some of these people for, like, on Ross aside, is it really right for him to get in here?

Because if he gets Justin back, obviously Justin knows what he's going to do. You know, to me is it... I don't know if Justin knows what he's going to do. Well, I'm just saying it doesn't need to... Ross has been known to... We can't be tearing up race cars, you know. Might not be a race car in loft. Well, that's what I'm saying, though.

If you're going to, I mean, maybe he's being in another way. I don't know. I got to go, uh, I'm... I'll go team, Joe. Justin. That's odd. I'm only spot off just for the fact that I actually spot for one of Johnny Davis's cars, and I hated to see this guy pours his blood, sweat, and tears into these race cars, and I spot for Garrett Smithley, and I know the deal with Johnny stuff.

Do not tear up the race car. Go out there, run as hard as you can, but be smart. Don't tear the race car up. Now, kind of Ross kind of put himself in that position by getting into it with Justin. And Justin did apologize after the race interview that said he kind of really wanted to just turn Ross around. and not tear up Johnny's stuff. But yeah, it's not a, when you've got, you know, Justin's going to be racing for a championship here before long,

and Johnny's got four red flexial cars out there that he's going to have to contend with now. I'm sure Johnny's not very happy with Justin about tearing up his race car. So it's just spot off for the fact that he tore up one of Johnny's cars and a guy that really can't afford to have stuff like that tore up. And I think these guys are smart enough to know when you make contact in certain parts of those, like that road course,

where Justin and Rosset. I don't think they know, though. I don't think they know how slick it was out there once they got out there. I don't think they know that. Well, I think like where they, and I agree, where I think Justin originally got turned was a straight up went across his nose and then where Justin returned the favor. You know, I think he went more so to like straight up just boot him. It wasn't supposed to wreck him. I think he wanted to spin him out.

Yeah, like boot him get out of the way. But like you said, I think. Well, people don't realize is in the carousel. It's just straight marbles, isn't it? No, once you get to, it's off. Once you get to the edge of the banking, it kind of goes back down the other way. So it kind of just takes back off. Got you.

Well, that's not be ignorant here, though. Ross wasn't in the groove when he got wrecked. Ross was way off the bottom in that carousel turn. So once Justin hit him, he's going to go in the dirt. And when he goes in the dirt, he's absolutely dumb. But I got to ask Freddie this. Freddie, I heard that there was a love letter left from Johnny Davis to Justin Algear and Justin Algeyer's locker after the race.

Can we confirm if the let you don't have to say what was in the letter, but was there a letter left from the car owner to Justin Algellis? I think there was something passed on. I don't think it wasn't in a locker. I believe it was somewhere on the hauler. Okay. But there was a letter left. There's something left for Justin Reed.

Yeah, for Justin from. Just reading material first flight home. Yeah. So I got a question. Let's flip the rolls here for you. We're role playing? Yeah, let's flip it. Say Justin spins Ross out in the beginning.

What do you think then? Dude, I told you I love this. Ross has a temper. He'll go back after him. I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I love it because the rolls are reversed. I still love it. I love it. I love it the way it happened.

I love it now. Like, if you're not going to make me change my mind. I still love. No, I'm not saying you're not going to like it. I'm saying, are you going to flip sides? Are you staying with, you know? No, I'm not flipping sides because I'm team Ross Chastain right now. How are you not team, you know, or team both?

I'm going to pick. What we're doing in this segment, TJ, is picking the driver that we like, and I'm picking that driver. I'm just asking you if it flips. Are you going to switch sides? We have like four more of these to go through. Okay, go. Oh, fine.

You just want to get off this topic. Huh? Nothing. Anyways, Kyle Bush versus William Byron. We'll start with Freddie. If I get more crap on Twitter from you guys about this. Please tweet her. No, please do not tweet me.

I have to like literally put a PSA out that I'm not dating wrong. Did you think it was going to get better? Please Twitter. Please Twitter. Hey, you're only making it worse. Just let it go. Kyle Bush versus William Byron. Freddy go.

You want me to start talking about Kyle Bush already? Yeah. Huh. So honestly, I'm going to say this. So Tony Hirschman is a very good friend of mine. It's probably the longest, the spotter I've known for the longest, because we came up through his ranks together. So we were texting back and forth about what happened maybe a little bit later in the race.

And I asked him about the first turn because I didn't see it. And he's shown me a replay from whoever was behind them to. And it honestly looked to me that really wasn't 100% Kyle's fault. Like, I think Kyle wasn't really wrong for being upset with William, because like the angles they take in the corner, like William doesn't leave, Kyle's on the bump, on the carb, and William does not leave him a lot of room,

and it looks like Kyle kind of spins himself out to keep from running William over, and then what happens later is obviously Kyle's frustrated, turns William, and then I guess coaching from the pit box was Chad, who tells him to go up there and run in the back of him, and Kyle sees it coming and locks the brakes up

and wrecks William's car, which I don't think that, I mean, obviously I think you should probably pay somebody back under green when they do something to you. But I don't know. I just, I mean, the first incident looked to me like it was more Kyle trying to stay off of William, and that's probably why he's upset, I guess, and then turned him. So it's just, you know, like I said, I'm all for any of this.

We have four topics of things we get to talk to because these guys just ran each other over yesterday, and anything that gives us stuff to talk about is good. Yeah. You know, William's probably learning still. a ton of experience yet and Kyle Kyle may have done something like that. Kyle is the luckiest guy that wrecks that I know. He wrecks... Tell me about it.

He wrecks at Bristol in front of the field and has his tailpiece clipped off, which is actually an advantage in these cars and comes back wins the race. He spins out places numerous times, doesn't hit the wall. He's, I mean, it's skill and luck

at the same time, but I don't know, I don't think I don't think, you know, that's something where you come up to the guy and you bump him a little bit. I'm not saying you send him off or whatever. I mean, Kyle recovered very well from that. Healing loss? What, five spots? Yeah, he didn't, yeah.

Which is nothing compared to how fast he was all weekend. If he would have just kept his cool, he'd have been up in the top five the rest of the day, racing for the win, probably. Yeah, he probably would have won the race if he didn't lose his mind. So why, you know, why even get into it? Go up to him after the race, talk to him. They were like, hey, man, you got to give a little more room than that. Or next time you get to him, give him a little nudge, but not like one that's going to,

William's going to have to pit after that because there's so much grass on his grill. He just caused a big, you know, a big disturbance with that instead of just a bump or whatever. You know, but it was exciting. Kyle Busch is the most talented NASCAR driver in history to only have one championship. And the reason he only has one championship is because of brain farts like he had yesterday. I don't know if William Byron meant to pinch him and meant to wreck him in turn one to start with. It seemed like it was accidental. Kyle's running William through the grass was 1,000% through the bus stop on purpose.

So now you've started a war with this kid, who you really haven't even raced all year. So now you're going into the potential playoff with a freaking warrior. And when William gets eliminated from the playoff in round two or three or whenever he does, assuming that he doesn't make it a homestead, he's got nothing to lose to basically have a huge problem with Kyle Bush. So my only spot off with this is Kyle being a veteran, as talented as he is, being as fast as he was. I mean, he went from around third to eighth when he wrecked. He drove right back to fourth very, very quickly.

Yeah. With a car that you would think had flat spotted tires. I mean, to T.J.'s point, if Clinton had wrecked in turn one, we would have had four flat tires. Freddie would have came through there and T-boned us. And then after we got T-boned, we would have caught on fire because that's Clint Boyer's luck right now. Kyle Bush can't do any wrong.

But spot off on Kyle, again, I love all this stuff just like Freddie said. Spot off on Kyle not being a smarter veteran race car driver in that situation. Team Byron. That's me. Next one here. Jimmy Johnson versus Ryan Blaney. T.J., let's hear what you love Ryan Blaney. I was a little busy there in this one, so I don't know.

This is something that makes the spot. All spotters nervous in this part of the racetrack because we can't see it. And it's leaving the other guys view that we have out there in the bus stop. And a lot of guys run the carousel different. A lot of guys run right along the curb. A lot of guys diamond a little bit. and to my understanding, Jimmy went up the diamond in it, and Ryan thought he left, Ryan drove inside of him, and that's how he spun.

So, I mean, I see both sides of it. I can see why Jimmy would expect a guy to cut him a little bit of a break there, but I think Ryan was on better tires too, so he was like, okay, well, I can't waste time here. You can't waste time at road course. If there's an opening and you have tires, if you lift for that guy, the guy behind you is going to have a run for the next straightaway, and you're going to get past and lose a spot. So if there's an opportunity, you kind of need to take it.

And it's risk versus reward. And to me, you know a lot of the guys that you can do that too that are probably going to know you're there and stuff. And a lot of guys that you probably don't know, don't trust. You don't do it to them ones. I think Ryan probably thought that Jimmy knew he was probably going to go in there. If he was going to race them off the corner, fine. But, you know, I don't think it was intent. Ryan is not the type that will go in there.

and he had no reason to go in there just wreck Jimmy for the phone, you know, for the phone. I think he did. That's what I saw. That's what he did. He wrecked him. Yeah, he didn't have a reason to go in and just wreck him, though. It's not like he was looking for him. I didn't know if something happened earlier in a race, honestly, when I was watching this on TV,

and I made a T.J's point, at this point in the race, when they come by us and leave turn two and start going up the hill in the S's, we all literally watch TV. You know what I mean? So we're watching this thing play out on TV. And I'm surprised, you know, we have a flat tire on that same lap. Jimmy Johnson gets wrecked by Ryan Blaney. And then we all saw. the later wreck, which brought the caution out when Bubble wrecked Kyle Bush.

All of that happened when in 30 seconds. So what a great time to be a race fan and be watching a race, whether you were there or on TV. I am team Jimmy on this one just because after the race, Jimmy made some really aggressive comments about Ryan's physical demeanor and how he handled the conversation. And I don't have a problem with how either one I'm handled conversation. I personally don't care. But the fact that Jimmy went there in his interviews, Jimmy is a really fun guy. But most people don't know that side of Jimmy, right?

Jimmy kind of let his personality show through there in that interview by saying this kid's quivering, his lips were jumping. I think he was scared shitless. Like whatever he said, right? I love, once again, that kind of drama is great for our sport. So I'm spot on the team, Jimmy. On the racetrack, I'm not picking sides because, again, I don't know exactly what happened, but I think it's great.

I've got the Jimmy quote here. He said, I couldn't hear what he was saying. His lips were quivering so bad. He couldn't even speak. I guess he was nervous or scared or both. I don't know what the hell his problem is. He just drove through him. me and spun us out, and it clearly has big implications that what we're trying to do for the

playoffs right now. Clearly not happy with his actions there. I saw Craven, Ricky Craven, retweeted, like, the Fox Center, or the NBC interview, and he said, the first thing I learned in interviews is take your sunglasses off, because if you don't, the world doesn't trust you. And, like, it's just Blaney's big old sunglasses, and he's looking around, all nervous and stuff. I thought he thought Jimmy was going to side swipe him. Yeah, that was good. That's good stuff. Did you get a say on this?

I really, like I said, I was a little busy during this one. I didn't really... Let's go to the next one then. Yeah, let's go to the next one then. Also, I think it's funny that Bubba and Byron were both involved in this. Didn't they both drive for Kyle at one point? Yeah. That just means we know him better.

Speaking of which, all right, well, we'll just fire this one off with you then. Kyle Bush versus Bubba Wallace and Bubba says, I'm going to get my respect on the track and I don't care who it is. F him. Well, the first thing that I have to get to here is when this went down, there was only really one thing that I was concerned about. What was it? Jason was going to be upset with me. I mean, I put in, as we're under caution, I made sure everything was okay, everything settled down.

I text Jason as fast as I could, and I said I was sorry. And I didn't know if that was enough, so I brought flowers into it. I think that's the way you do, like your friends, you need to make something wrong. That's like when I screw up a Megan, I get her flowers. make you make you happy. Jason, why don't you? Jason, come out here, Jason.

I got some flowers for you. Come on out, Jason. Great. They just so happy to be the color of the M&Ms, I think. I don't, I mean, most of them are skittles. Some tropical skittles over here. There you go, buddy.

I'm really sorry. I'd get up and hug you, but I got a headset on. I'm sorry. Where do those flowers go? No, don't take the knife out. Don't knife, Freddy. Don't do it. I thought the flowers look great

next to you, Jason. Yeah. It's not very nice. So, Freddie, what happened, man? So, anyway, the only thing that really drives me insane about this is the fact that, which I can't even say for sure, because I still haven't seen it myself, we stay out under one of the, I was right before the end of a stage or something, like five to go before stage end.

We stayed out, and we're kind of 10th, 12th-ish, something like that. And Kyle come, he had pit, so he's coming from behind us. and I kind of knew that he was going to be way better than us, so I was kind of telling him, you know, five back to the 18 when he disappeared out of my view. So then the next thing I hear is, you know, he comes Chris Rice, who was helping me in the S's. I don't know, he's three back or someone.

He got to the top of the S's. Shannon McLemory, you know, he's got a lot of experience spotting. I heard one back 18. Then I heard the announcers go nuts. Oh, 43's around. And I see the TV. We're buried up in the fence. And before I see the TV,

I hear Bubba saying, F and KB, you know, just a little tirade. That's all he said. Never said another word about it. So I thought we were done. The way the camera angle was, I thought we were buried in the fence, but I think there was just a wall sticking out a little further than I said. So I, we come back around. I'm like, oh, it's not that bad.

So then we come in, or I'm sorry, them guys pit, like when their window opened in the second stage or the last stage. And I've seen that the 18 was going to come out right behind us. And I said, well, it's going to be interesting. So I didn't, we still, I'm not one to, like, tell Bubba what to do. And another thing, like, that I've noticed in history is, if a guy says he's going to wreck somebody, nine times out of ten, he's not going to wreck him. When a guy I don't say a word, that's the guy you got to worry about, and he never said a word.

So I just, we come, he disappeared from my view, and I said, ah, he got about five back to the two, and he's got about two back to the 18 car. Maybe a little emphasis on 18. And he'd come around, and I said, he'd come off a seven, and Kyle's on our bumper. I said, looking low, and that's the last thing I said. And all hell broke loose down the front stretch. And he still never said a word the whole time. Just, I think we, maybe we're trying to pit.

I'm not sure. I think maybe, I don't know. He got a little close to the wall. I thought he was going to run him head on into the end of pit wall at one point. And I don't even know. How's your hand? My hand was swollen last night. I mean, I don't know.

I think it was the high five. and the fist bumps that I got up there. Because there was a steady line. Freddie had a whole cheering section around and giving him high-fives. Herm said he was going to put one of them deli counters in, where he just got to take a number and I'll serve you next. It was just a steady line of people coming down. The first got a high-five, Freddie,

was the guy who spots for William Byron, ironically. Yeah, and he about broke my hand. Old Tab, he was pretty fired up. But, yeah, so, I mean, I was just honestly happy. If that's what happened back there, which, again, I hate that. the fact that there was no replays on TV. TV never caught it. Nobody's caught.

I've never seen it on Twitter yet. So everybody thinks that like that whole deal on the front stretch was it. And Bubba was just wrecking him because Kyle ran into him on the front stretch. Obviously that was not the case. That had been pent up for about 10-15 laps. Were you like a proud dad moment when that happened? Yeah. Yeah, I was happy as hell.

Like, I mean... Did you hear how loud the crowd was? I heard how loud the crowd was and then they were even louder when the replay. I mean, it was like above a, like, that's all he tweeted last night. I was like, the crowd was hype today. I love it with the, like, rock an emoji or whatever.

And, but, like, yeah, I just told him out to the race, and even Chris Rice, who was helping us. I mean, he don't even really know Bubba that well. I don't think he's like, man, I'm really proud of you. That was good. You know, like, you can't say something like that. You can't tell a guy, like, that's where I think the 24 went wrong. You can't tell a guy go up there and wreck him if you don't want to wreck him if he don't want to wreck him. Because that's what happens, he goes up there kind of him hauling around and gets his own car wrecked.

Like, if Bubba wanted to pay him back, I'm just going to tell him where he's at. He can wreck him if he wants to. Yeah. And he did. And I was good for him because, you know what? Like he said, if you're going to get respect, that's the only, I guarantee you, Kyle, when he comes up behind us in that situation, might think twice about turning us around again. You know what I mean? There was one guy in NASCAR history you never wrecked.

His name was Ricky Rudd. And there was a reason for it because he would 1,000% pay you back times 10. Therefore, you knew not to wreck Ricky Rudd. Yeah. It's just the way it is. Again, I mean, this is, we've had short track excitement for whatever reason come into road course racing in the last decade, and it's phenomenal. The way they're beating and banging and fighting it. I mean, it's great. I love it. Why did Kyle run in you in the first place?

Remember that brain fart thing we talked about? You know, he was obviously fastening. We were. He caught us and just sounded like to me, Frank Bolter, who spots for the 18, told Herschman that we blocked him. Obviously, I've never seen it. Four other spot. that had nothing to do with my car told us he just kind of did what Algar did to Ross, just got us and drove to the back. I will say that I've seen when Kyle gets down, when he, something happens and he's trying to work his way back through the field, he's very aggressive with how he does it.

I mean, we were somewhere and he was in someone's left rear quarterpenter on the front stretch trying to get. Where were we when that happened? Was Chicago? It was. You know, you can't be like that. So he literally all, if he would have just waited one corner, he's going to go right by us. It was like this, it wasn't like he was back there behind us for a lap.

Like as soon as he caught us, it sounded to me like he moved us. Like, you know, I understand if we're holding him up, but it was like literally as soon as he caught us. Yeah. For the record, I was also high-fiving my friend when Bubba took him out. And Bubbo is my new favorite driver. He's the national hero. That was the best moment of the season. What?

So did you just bandwagon? I just, no, he's full. He's so lying. Then as soon as Freddie texted me, I was like, in his cow bush underwear, he says that. No, that's not true. I started laughing like, I'm like, texting me during the race. I'm like, thanks Freddie for thinking of me. Oh, man.

Please take those flowers back to Megan. She deserves them. Okay, I'll do that. She watches all my Instagram stories. Hannah, I have, uh, I want you to look at something. Uh-oh. Hey, you can't do that. I want you to look at that.

What are you looking at Hannah? Because the rest of us can't see it. Is that Jason? That is Jason. That is Jason. The people that are listening. Oh, Hannah's face. It's Jason's chubby picture.

Oh, look a little Jason. He's not little. Look at this guy. Damn. That's what he said. I got to tell you, I got a tweet from some dude that I don't know this week.

And he said that us fat shaming people was going to make him stop listening to the show. Okay, first of all. I just wanted you to know there was the weirdest encounter ever post episode that I was here with and I work pit road with Hermie.

Herminator. I love that guy. I was like, I almost felt like I had to walk up and apologize to him. First of all, to this punk. The watermelon? Number one, I'm fat. Number two, don't be so sensitive.

Go vote for Hillary. Go find Hillary. Go live with Hillary. All right. I got upset last night. Somebody called me. Somebody tweeted to me. Somebody said something about Bubba and said that fat drunk Freddie must have told him to do it or something like that.

I'm like, how does this guy know who I am? Damn it? Like, he must know me. That's funny. Don't be so sensitive people. Easy. Good Lord. All right.

We got to change something because he's getting politics. He's getting angry. We've got a couple more spot on, spot off, but a little bit different here. AJ Almondinger finishes second in the Xfinity race fails post-race inspection. We already know Brett thinks he won. Spot on to the first part of that next. I mean, you know, I hate it for AJ

because he's a good dude. He's a lot of fun, fun to talk to, fun to be around, really good, just really fun. I hate it, that's two in a row he's gotten. The last two cars he's driven for them has been disqualified. Right? Was he in a college car? Yeah.

He's third at Daytona 2nd here. And got DQ to Daytona's. Oh, man. Oh, there goes to football. He got DQ to Daytona as well. Throwing the trash, Jebby. The football fell off the table. My daughters are here with me today.

You just trash it. No, we're not allowed to throw it out. I'm not done cutting that thing up anyway. Yep. Yep. You know, spot off. I hate it for AJ. And I don't know, man.

I heard there was some damage or something that might have caused it to be that or whatever, but, you know, I was thinking about this, too, is we haven't, we haven't talked about any issues with tech or anything like that. And right now, if you're DQed, you're DQed. Like, we don't have any issues, like, for the while there, it seemed like every week we were talking about, okay, are we going to find out tomorrow if this guy has finished his spot or not? Now, you know, we know quick, and it's pretty, it's pretty plain and simple now. So, good for NASCAR for sticking under their guns on this stuff and, and, uh, it just sucks that it was you, you know?

I think the positives are that the rules are being enforced. I think the negatives in this situation are that, you know, AJ's come back out of retirement to run for this team and to chase trophies and, you know, played a big role in those guys winning Daytona. And obviously here he is running second at a road course where he's really good, had a chance to win. Did have some damage to the left here that we literally talked about on the radio after it happened on Channel 1 and Channel 2.

But the bad thing for me is, man, you know, here's AJ. I'm a dinger, a guy that's going to be. on television selling your product to the fans and commentating and analyzing your product. And, man, this is where we get in a really sticky situation. Brett Kozlowski wrote an article about it of how, you know, tracks and teams and drivers and NASCAR, we all compete for the same sponsorship space. Well, this guy is in your media space during the week. And here he is.

He's butt hurt, man. Like, I mean, I had some folks that were obviously flying with him and with him. man, he was really upset that he had been disqualified, given the effort that he put in, the team had put in. And I don't have an issue with the disqualification if we're illegal, right? But it's a weird situation in our sport because now he's got to go sell the sport to fans. And, man, it's like maybe him and whoever makes that decision had a history or something. Like, wow, how do you get disqualified two races in a row?

By cheating. Yeah. I mean, kind of. I mean, it's not his fault. No. It's not AJ's fault. So he really, it's not his fault. he did that but if you fail you fail um you know obviously a j didn't go into that race wanting to

hey i you know i'm gonna win the day but man this car cheated up can't wait he doesn't you know but so it's just a bad situation and i think a j gets it but just kind of you know just i was talking to chris rice last night um after we landed and i was like man you're gonna appeal this thing and he's like one you never win the appeal and two i think it cost me five thousand dollars to file the appeal So all I'm doing is digging a deeper hole. So not only on the competition side does it have a big impact, but also on the business side because Matt Collick, who owns that race team, he loves racing.

That's why he's here. And yes, it makes business sense for Leaf Filter to be here. But Matt Colleg is spending a lot of his own money to fill the second car, to fill the third car. Even when you guys see sponsorship on that car, whatever they're off on sponsorship, Matt is subsidizing that number. So to have Matt Collegg excited about his second place finish, and then he leaves dejected.

That's also not good for our sport because he's a hobby guy. He's not a Richard Childress racing. A pincekey of Joe Gibbs racing that's been around forever. They only came about in 2016, I believe it was. So implications are weird, man. I mean, we saw the Nice Motorsports guy. You know, he's the same thing. I mean, Ross is out here winning races in his truck,

and the guy's literally not knowing how he's going to show up at the next race. Yeah, Al-Nese is footing that bill. They had an all-white truck recently that was literally nothing on it but the contingency. It sounds like, oh, that's not good. Those KBM trucks are grossing. 125,000 a race, and then you've got this guy who's paying his own bill, and this guy paying his own bill is kicking the fully funded truck's butts. And you don't want to piss those people off and send them home, because right now we probably need them more than we ever have.

I thought I was cool at Eldora Ross. He did that deal where you could see all the sides of the truck and get all the sponsors on TV. Yeah, that's good marketing play. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, it was good. I will say it was cool. He had Jack Hewed on that car. And they interviewed in pre-race. Hermy did. Did you see how he did that? He goes, hey, Jack, Jack, you got time for an interview? Damn right, I got time for an interview. I was like, yeah. Hermie interviewed him?

Yeah, Herme interview him? Two watermelons. And they started talking like it was going to go like the famous. If you've not seen this interview, you need to Google it and YouTube. Oh, Jack Hewitt. Oh, my gosh. I was waiting for that to go really bad. Yes.

That's why Ross did it. It was that track, right? He's just like a man full of quotable conversation. Like, we were talking to him about the trucks being there. And I, we said something about, you know, wouldn't you want to see sprint cards here and he goes, if I wanted to watch a parade, I'd just turn the TV on, on Thanksgiving and watch the Macy's. I'm like, okay, like just quotable, man. He's just, he's a character. Awesome. Next one here, Chase Elliott and Martin Truex Jr.'s battle for the win. Can you call that a battle?

That was a battle, two guys racing cars apart without, without making a mistake. Like, I was waiting for one of them to make a mistake. Martin kind of creeped in there a little bit with five or so to go, and I thought, okay, well, he, another car length and he was going to probably take a shot into one or something. But those guys, man, I was watching wait for the mistake. I'll say it since you won't say it. That tire sucked. You had Kyle Larson stay out at the end of stage one with 17 green flag laps on his tires. And nobody could catch him. Nobody could pass. You mean it just didn't wear? There was just no tire wear? No, you just didn't happen. So here's freaking Larson out there on old 20 laps, 17, 20 lap tires.

Nobody can catch him and pass him for the lead. He's literally gone. And then you look at this battle. I don't know who, I guess Jason said, this battle for the lead. I never saw a battle. I saw a race that was dominated by Chase Elliott. I wasn't waiting on him to make a mistake. I was waiting on Martin to have an opportunity to outdrive him, catch him, get inside of him,

make Chase do some things to be aggressive and play defense. And I never saw it. And I have to say, we saw an entertaining race yesterday, put a really good tire out there and we'll see any better one. I wasn't a fan of that tire. Yeah, I mean, I can see where you'd say that. but it was still a good fight. I'm good, you know, get with Chase for, you know, driving that.

I mean, he's obviously found, I say dominated it. Yeah, I mean, he's figured out the way around the glen. Chase has gotten really good there. His dad was a pretty good road course racer, too, though, wasn't he? Wasn't Bill pretty good on road courses? He was pretty good everywhere. Yeah, I don't think he had an awesome bill for crying out loud. They didn't call him sucky, Bill from Dawsonville.

Awesome on Oval's Bill. I went to Dawsonville on Friday to check out the pool room. That was pretty cool. I was very disappointed to listen to the DJD and find out the pool room doesn't even serve beer. I mean, what? How are you on this battle, Freddie? Spot on, spot off. For the battle.

What battle? The battle. What are you talking about? I think that answers it right there. You talk about, like, Chase just running five cars in front of Martin for the entire race. Actually, the battle was Martin and them guys getting up to second, because that was pretty good to watch. Like, the Gibbs cars were unbelievable yesterday. I felt like they could cut through traffic.

The 18 was pretty fast for some of the race. When he was facing forward. When he was going the right direction. But, you know, like once he got the second, like literally, I mean, if Chase didn't make a mistake, which he, you know, obviously that's on Chase did a great job not to make a mistake, but he would have had to make a mistake for Martin to get to him. Martin was not going to be able to drive up to him, it seemed like. And like he said, the tire is just not wearing out.

Like, I felt like in the Xfinity race, you've seen a little bit different, like where Kyle pitted and was able to come back through. He also had the best car. But like some guys, just the tire didn't wear out. So there was no difference in staying out longer and having better tires at the end versus, you know, short pitting and just running the race backwards like we normally would. Yeah. Well, that segue is the next one with road course racing with the current arrow package.

TJ, you want to start this? I don't know if it's all arrow with this. Like we always talk about fall off. You got a fall off. You have fall off. Arrow kind of takes care of itself. You know, I... So you don't like the tire either.

I mean, I like a lot of fall off. I like a lot of fall off. Everywhere. Everywhere we go. Anywhere. Fall off gives you comers and goers. Yeah, you got to make tires matter. What scares me about the package at the road course, and I feel like this was the first road course

where we could really evaluate it. I thought Sonoma the layout was horrible. I feel like what scares me about this package is I'm used to seeing guys starting on Friday in the very first practice. Miss turn one, wheel hop turn one, wreck in turn one. That is a downhill, fast, you know, breaking corner.

And to see so many, guys go through there so easily with the exception of Kyle Bush. That scares me. I actually think, though, that the horsepower is good. The arrow package is fine. I think that my struggle was that tire was literally too good. It needs to fall off. It needs to be. Or we need to do what F1 does, and we need to have various compounds that we can pick from during that race, because what we need to see is the opportunity to pass. And it was very difficult yesterday. I caught T.J. We were running about 22nd, a lot better. I was a lot better. I was a lot better. better at that point in the race than he was. And I bet it took me seven laps to get by you.

Yeah, at least probably that. Long time. We got inside of them a couple times, couldn't do anything. Like, you want the ability to complete a pass. Otherwise, you're doing what Jack said. You're watching a parade. We don't want to be in the parade business. I feel like the tire has, I don't know if it's just Goodyear struggling. They also went into, like, everybody in the beginning of year didn't know what this package was going to be. So Good Year also doesn't know what this package is. And they've got to build a tire that's not going to blow out.

So hopefully when we go, like last week, I saw the 88 pit. and I think the four was leading. And, you know, usually you come out of Pits on fresh tires, you drive away from the leader, and you're good. The four pass the 88. Like tires last week, this week, they have not mattered at all some of these tracks. And it's probably a part of, you know, good year just trying to err on the side of safe versus, you know,

having tires blow out every five laps like we had at Indy that year. But, you know, hopefully when we go back to some of these places, they can kind of compromise a tire a little bit to where... We had a track earlier where the engineer literally told us that they could run the Martinsville race, and then drive 3,000 more miles on that left side tire. We don't need that. No.

That's insane. It is insane. Just keep listening to Door Bumper Clearhanna. We'll keep sharing that knowledge. Appreciate it. I'll just take my pit notes going into each free weekend. That's why you've got to come on every other week. That way you can be more in tune to what's going on in the sport.

As if I'm not there. I appreciate it, though. Thank you. You're welcome. I wasn't at Watkins Glen, though. All right, guys. Well, before we take a break, we want to take a moment of silence for the victims and those that were impacted by the mass shootings in El Paso. in Dayton over the weekend.

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Some talking games. Good luck. Fast lane. All right. First question here. Passing proved more difficult than usual at Watkins Glen on Sunday. What caused this and how can it be fixed next year? I feel like we just kind of went over this, didn't we?

T. Oh, no. Let's hear TJ's take. I mean, obviously, I agree with the fall off. You got a fall off when you have fall off guys, save tires, guys. know how to manage them and you know you guys see guys struggling when the tire doesn't fall off everybody gets off the corner the exact same when you got when you get guys that are burning them up using them up they can't get off the corner later and you got guys that can so you get guys that can

you know and and an attempt to pass we could take a non-practical approach and have a water truck that rides around and wets the track and forces us to run rain tires so that we can see guys slipping and sliding and having an opportunity for the better drive to prevail, or we could just do something that would be practical, which would be to bring a softer tire that wears and that falls off several seconds over the course of several miles. Yeah, I mean, I like the idea of, like, the F1 route of, you know, different compounds where you can put a hard tire on and maybe stay out longer than a guy that's going to,

I mean, I don't know if we watch a Formula One race, but it was one of the better races I've seen where a guy was leading on hard tires, and Lewis Hamilton came in and put a softer compound on and made up 20 seconds in 20 laps. and won the race. That's exciting. You're watching the guy run him down. That's what you want is a coming and going situation where somebody's got to, you know,

there's somebody charging on from the back on a better tire. Next question. The battle for the final playoff spots is heating up with four races left. Will any of the guys currently in the top 16 be knocked out before the field is set? You guys can kind of see the points there. Jones. He's 54 to the good?

Yeah. Larson, 46 to the good. Boyer 12 to the good. and Johnson on that line with Newman. Oh, they're tied. Freddie, you start. Yeah, obviously there's going to be a battle between Johnson and Newman for that last spot. Jimmy's probably had a little bit more speed,

but this package really lends itself to Ryan Newman. I feel like he is the king of racing hard, keeping you behind him, has a good restart, and all of a sudden he's running 15th all day and he finishes 6th. So he could sneak out some good finishes and put some points between him and Jimmy, but it's going to be a toss-up between those two, I think. Yeah, none of these. you know, even you got Clint, Jimmy, and Newman, even Suarez, they cannot afford a bad race right now. You cannot afford a DNF. You cannot afford a 36 place finish. You have to fight for everything you can, and you have to keep your head on your shoulder.

You can't get involved in stuff that can take you out of this. So the pressure's on these guys right here. I feel bad that we're even in this conversation. I mean, I look at who we're ultimately competing with, and yes, they're talented race car drivers. but we shouldn't even be back here. We've made a lot of mistakes on the racetrack and getting in accidents and not maximizing stage points to even put ourselves in this position. But, I mean, man, it's 18 guys vying for 16 spots. Here's the question is,

does somebody pull off a win that's not in this top 16 at one of these next three races? And Indy's one of those places that we've seen crazy stuff happen where, you know, Paul Menard wins, you know, Casey Kane win, certainly wasn't favored to win that race back. any means. TJ's right.

None of us can afford to screw up, and I think that's what it's going to come down to is who makes the least mistakes. I'll tell you the guy that I think is running the best out of the people behind you guys in points is the 95. He is rattled off some good finishes, and I'll tell you what, he is really,

really good at Bristol. And if you end up like tire, we say tires don't matter, and if you get in the right spot in the right position at the end of the race and stay out on a pit stop or something, he gets the lead, he could sneak out.

to win in a place like Bristol. Eric Jones has got the most speed in this group right now. I mean, obviously he's busted off a lot of top five finishes. He was crazy fast yesterday. Dibbendetto is in a, you know, basically a JGR satellite car, which gives him speed. I mean, but you're talking about a Jimmy Johnson, a Clint Boyer, or Kyle Larson. Those are high-calibre drivers that are vying literally just to squeeze in here to this playoff.

The June Michigan race featured a lot of drafting with the current Aero Package. Will you feed your driver any more or different information this time around, knowing how the race played out. Brett. You know, the key is you can't let somebody get to your right rear. If they do, they're going to drive around you for the most part. So the information that we give when it's critical is on these restarts. And we just saw it at Pocono. Everybody's really fighting and jockeying through turn one there,

which will be turn one and two at Michigan, to get your momentum wound up and not be forced to the bottom where there is no draft, there is no speed. And you go into turn three and you can go from, you know, third on a restart to 10th in a lap. So I think where you're going to see spotters play the biggest role will be on restarts there. The biggest thing I think you've seen in the first race, and it was really similar to what the truck races used to be,

is everybody kind of runs that lane off the bottom, and that bottom is a 100% sucker hole. You get a running the guy through the middle, and you're like, oh, I got them. You pull to the bottom, and if you don't get them cleared up off the corner, you might as well figure on losing three to four spots because that top lane is going to be coming hard. So I think the biggest thing I'm going to do is try to just minimize

your side-by-side racing and just remind them that like unless you know you can get clear you can't put yourself on the bottom and have somebody outside you yeah it's uh even like we led we were you know you're just gonna tell them clear by three the rest of the day fine you're still you're still blocking it's weird how the runs for them there but you're still blocking the run because they with the right push like kurt was making me nervous because kurt was figuring out to push you know how to how to work together and get you know um make it you know make it you know make it real interesting but it's it's hard. It's a 195 mile an hour chess match.

If you make the wrong move, you're opening yourself up for, like you said, the loss is bigger than the game. Yeah. So you don't want to do that. Off the wall question here. A 16-year-old won $3 million as the first Fortnite World Cup solo champion.

What would you have done with $3 million at 16? That's insane. T.J. probably a lot of bad decisions bought a really cool eye racing set up yeah I would have probably definitely have an awesome car I'm not sure what I would buy I would shop around

Can you drive at 16 here? Yeah Yeah I don't know 16 I'm trying to think of what was cool when I was 16 I probably would have bought a full wheeler Nowadays it would probably be a side by side or whatever they call them

Wow, man, so many things I'd buy. Buy a house on offer pad? I'd go to Best Buy and just go crazy. They had Best Buy when you were 16? Yeah. Well, Circuit City was more of a thing for me. Circuit City was, yeah, definitely big back then. Yeah, if I'd have $3 million, it's 16 years old.

Hey, hey, well, your kids are here. What? They're here? Yeah. I can't be honest. I said when I was 16. I know what you said. Three million bucks is a lot of money.

After taxes is a million five. I was playing baseball, playing football, dancing a lot. I have my own little clogging studio going in Pageland, South Carolina. So if I'd have been 16 and won that money, the first thing I would have done, though, was went and bought a super dirt late model because the guy named Tommy Mongo in my hometown was a badass at Lancaster, South Carolina,

and I love going to watch him race. That's how I got into race. That's four years old, started going on the track with him and his family. That would have been the first thing I would have done, was bought a super dirt late model, and I would have sucked because I probably should have started in like street stock or something, but I'd have went right to the top. I'd have been just like this kid in the 77 that can't drive every week that gets in there,

and he's by 18 seconds off the pace. And he bought a ride. He bought his way at the top. That's what I would have done. I'm saying I would have been that guy. I know, but just reminded me of something yesterday. How many penalties did the 77 get in a row on pit road? All right, too fast exiting.

All right, too many boxes. Too fast as entering. Oh, too many boxes. It was literally like four times. It was too many boxes on entry. Too many boxes on exit. And it was Reed. Like it was Reed Soros yesterday.

Somebody that knows how to drive. Yeah. Oh, man. Three, I don't know. I don't think you know the value of $3 million at 16. There's no chance. You know how much trouble I would have got in at 16.

I was already a hellion. I don't know if you just know what all you can buy with that. At 16, you don't. In the day's world, you can't. can't do a lot, though. In my world, you could have done a ton. You know, one point five million dollars and whenever I was 16, I mean, you're talking 1992. Like, that's a pile of money. At 16 where I was living, I probably would have bought a dairy farm there, had about 200 cows. But I'm telling you, a million five right now, that's not a lot of money. No. Long Island, I would have got a nice two-bedroom

apartment probably. Yeah, exactly. And not be able to afford to pay your property taxes. Yeah, I'd have moved out a couple years later. Casey would have went to the four seasons for a week. She would have a better wedding photographer. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. Hey, what would you do? Just hold on one second before you get to that. Chad, this is contagious. Is it? Chad posted his sister's birthday yesterday. He posted a wedding, a picture from the wedding of him and his sisters.

And it was, I think of his birthday. I'll bet she has his sign in. So you don't think it was him. You think it was just her? I'll bet. What would you do with three million? Well, it wasn't that long ago that I was 16, just a reminder. How old are you?

Yeah, how old are you? 22. Are you kidding me? Wow. 22. Yeah. Which I can remember. I'm trying to think what I was

At 16 I just graduated high school You look way older than 22 Yeah that's nice You graduated at 16 Yep I hated high school So I graduated at 16 so I just graduated And was getting ready to go to college I meant that a nice way

So I probably would have Bought a new super late model Are you racing? Speaking of that I heard you're racing Yeah I am I'm going home and racing A super late model race in a couple weeks That's fun I'm gonna fall out of the seat

It's a 200 lap race You're 22 I think Doug Colby referenced this I saw a Victor Lane picture of you And your hair looks as amazing as does right now. Did you do your hair in the car? Like,

wherever you won the race? Yeah, you're talking about that picture that I put up. It was a heat race, so it was like seven laps and we didn't have practice that day. I mean, she's got curls. My hair was all curled and nice.

So it was like, we didn't have practice. Nothing. I went out and won the heat race, and that was the picture that it was from. It was a win from a heat race. So my hair's still like nice and curly. I promise you it didn't look that way.

Just like Rick Corelli is when I was going to say the reason. I'm surprised that your 22 is not because you look older than 22 unlike what TJ just said. You look more mature than 22. Just the fact that you are good at what you do and you've really already done so many things. Like at 23 was when I finally got into the sport. So you're way ahead of life at 22 than I was.

What else have you done? That's a loaded question. That's the way he means it. Yeah, no. I have to tell myself to slow down sometimes because I get frustrated that I'm not farther ahead. Then I'm like, okay, I have to full spectrum this and be like. I always remember your mic is on. That's the only thing.

Yes. Okay, wait, did you guys, you probably didn't, but last weekend at Iowa, I had to do pre-race interviews for MRN, and that was the first time I'd talk to him since that happened, and I got to interview him. I think I might not have the audio clip, but how did it go? I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt and approach the conversation just with a racing-related question. So I prompted it that way, and I go, you know, you didn't race here in June, so you're behind on the notebook compared to your teammates, how are you guys feeling about? you know today's race and he goes hi hannah i go hello this is live yeah and he goes long time no talk how you been like i'm doing great how are you doing pretty good oh good so how you feel about your race car yeah we're feeling pretty good and it was just like three minutes it was just

casual conversation i said all right well that's really hard super awkward everyone had their phones out they were waiting for like throw down 2.0 or something so i'm glad that's over i go to bristol in two weeks too and I get to work Colossus again. He's kids. How would you to handle that, Freddie, if you'd been that guy and Hannah walked up to you after calling you that? I would have to laugh. I would have laughed when she said it to the first side. I said, Hannah, come here.

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Oh, there you go. We gave away four last week. We're giving away one or two this week. Hmm. Can't wait. So first question here is Bradley 88 Billy asks, why do we have a ride height rule post race at road courses where the cars bounce like a baseball? Baseballs don't, I guess they kind of bounce.

I think he. Billy was intoxicated when he sent this question. His original question that he sent to me and Jason was, it had a lot of F bombs in it. He was upset. I feel like Billy was usually intoxicated. I feel like he followed. I think old Billy follows our mold a little too closely. He said he was on, is he the one that said he was on the couch for the weekend?

Yeah. Yeah. If I probably why. I mean, I think they have ride height rolls everywhere. Otherwise, listen, you want a ride. I don't think they have a right high rule anywhere. Cup doesn't.

No. Cup doesn't. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. I forgot. That's why the cars are so low. Maybe we need a ride height roll.

Maybe that's probably part of the problem. Be about a foot. Here's my question to you guys. Okay, so we're going to do a right height rule, which means to the listener that you're going to push through tech and your car is going to have to be so many inches off the earth. Then we're going to go out there and race. The whole time we're racing, the car is. on the earth. It is slammed completely down. What is happening in tech is when these guys come back

through tech after the race, Cup doesn't have to come back up to that height, okay? They also don't have to start at that height because they're allowed to start on the ground. What's happening here is the Xfinity series and in Ross's instance in the truck series, the truck or the car isn't coming back up after the race. My question is, if we're racing with the car planted on the ground, why do we need the car to come back up anyway? This is all because we have a really, the Cup series, there's a lot of really smart people in the sport, and they have figured out how to get these cars

that load of the ground and not hit. I mean, the Cup cars race this far off the ground the whole time. They race sealed off onto the ground. And to get the trucks in that to that level, it's going to take more engineering. It's going to take what's going to cost more. money, they're going to start doing things. It's better to say, hey, everyone race at this height.

How much money is they going to cost? Millions. I mean, you're trying, you know, it's like arrow stuff. I mean, the lower it's, the lower it is faster. But they're already racing on the ground. Why should the car have to come back up? Because a lot of the teams can't figure out how to do that. Every team that's contending to win the race came to.

Well, you know what I mean? Like, the gap's going to get bigger. If you don't have a ride height roll, in my opinion, the gap will get bigger between. Let me ask you this, Brayette. after Saturday's race, if you won the race, do you think you passed tick? I don't know.

I mean, I would hope that, and look, I don't know what considerations were given. I don't know what conversations were had. I know that we had damage. I know that damage was real, and I know that it was being attributed via the team as to why we were low. So I don't know if NASCAR is more open to listening to that.

I don't know what happened in that room. More so what I'm getting at is, you go, race, you go to Lucknachek, you drive straight to tech if you finish second place. You win the race, you do your burnouts on... You got more time to come up. You push the car. You're sitting in Victory Lane. You've got more time for this car

to come back up. Because it's all compression, you know, shock stuff, where these cars are coming back up. I think, you know, if your car sits there longer, it has more time to come back, it's got a better chance. That's why they let them roll through twice. They let them roll through twice. Oh, yeah. But still, it's you roll through and then you roll right back through. It's not,

you don't have 20 minutes. Yeah. Sometimes that's like a second time will pass, too, though, because it has had more time. I mean, you're still pushing the envelope when you're doing this stuff. I mean, I think Billy's question is we're watching these guys jump these curbs. How do we expect parts not to fail and things not to happen? And Billy, man, I'm with you. But the thing is, man, if NASCAR's drawn the line in the sand, which they have, and you're on the wrong side of it, which teams have been, I'm with a nice car standing their ground. But, I mean, dude, it's a fickle. You guys will both remember this. We used to go to the plate tracks.

We're running into each other on the pace last before the race. If you were or behind a teammate to knock the back of the car lower. If you had a teammate, you know, and you're lined up with him, you would get a run, speed up there, and hit him as hard as you could. So it would knock his spoiler down out of the air more. That's right. So, and that's not going to pass, but it looks like race damage. So, you know, if you leave, if you leave an area, gray, I mean, we're going to exploit it.

Yeah, I mean, how long did we, like, you know, you're not allowed to flare your side skirts out? So the entire parade lap was 40 guys driving on the apron, off the apron, on the apron, off the apron, trying to flare them out themselves. We find ways to get around things. So you kind of have to be, the line has to be drawn, whether it's, if you're low, you're low. You can't, like, well, it's damaged. Well, how do you know there's not an advantage of that somehow, you know? Next question. Chris Bryant 86 asks, when your driver tells you to go to the spotter of another car, he's going to, wait, hold up.

When the driver tells you to go to the spotter of another car, he's going to whip their ass, do you actually do it in reference to JJ telling his spotter to go tell Blaney's? Yeah, we just walk down and beat the hell out of each other all the time. Just luckily it doesn't get on TV. Oh, man, it's just all the pants of the scenario. I think most of us on the roof realize we're not driving the cars. Most of us. Yeah, there's a few that love to get into a still.

I think they're not asking that you guys are going to whip. each other's ass on the spotters, and I think they're asking if you go tell their spotter, hey, my driver's going to whip your ass. Like your driver's ass. I think Freddie's right. If you tell them you're going to whip their ass, you're not going to do anything. Yeah. Okay, so I think Fred is right about that.

But here's my thing, Hannah. If I know that Clint is mad at Joy Legano and I know it's potentially going to screw both of us, I'm going to go tell TJ because I don't want to get screwed. If I know that Clint's mad at Joy Lagano and he's going to wreck Joy Logano and it not affect Clint Boyer, what do I care, right? I mean, I don't have a dog in that. fight. My dog is my dog. So I'm going to go down there and I'm going to say, TJ, hey, dude, if you see me coming, exactly like what happened yesterday with Bubba and Kyle, right?

If I'm Kyle Busch's spotter, I'm going to walk down there and say, hey, man, this is what Kyle said. He's sorry. He'll buy you a steak dinner. You know, I'm going to try to diffuse a situation if I think it's going to help me. If I don't, then I don't care, right? So if I go down there and I'm like, hey, TJ, man, Clint's really mad if he catches you. I'm just warning you's probably going to wreck you. It's so that he and I both don't get screwed. Yeah, it's all, it depends on the situation. Most of the time, these guys, it's heat of the moment stuff, and they're just saying it when they're really mad,

because 20 laps later, they're running 30 positions better, and they're all happy again, and they don't even think about it again. So, you know, if it happens near the end of the race, and, you know, it takes one guy from first or second to, like, I mean, I can see when Martinsville a few couple years ago, whatever, when, you know, Denny got into Chase. Yeah, I mean, I could see something. If he says it then, you're probably going to go down to him and be like, hey, man.

Forewarning. Yeah, let you know. It just all depends on the situation. Ebril WX asks, should the schedule be set up so that short tracks follow up road courses? If one driver is perturbed, perturbed at another, Michigan surely isn't the place to retaliate, and an additional week means memories won't be quite as good as Bristol.

Memories, if you are mad, you never, forget, ever, ever, ever, forget. This goes back to the, if you're mad and it's building up inside of you, it's not going to go away. And it might be at Michigan, it might be at Bristol. That point, you might not see the guy the next week on the track, so it might not even matter. And you don't, you're not going to go in there and destroy a guy at a hundred and ninety-five miles an hour. That's not the way, that's not the way to handle it. And I don't think any of these guys would do it that way.

But there's going to come a time when, you know, you're going to, you know, you're going to guy's going to be having a bad day and if he's mad to this other guy and if other guys having a great day they're going to go out of the corner of bristol it could be a month and a half later he's not going to forget if he's mad enough no and and you can and you can hurt somebody at brist i've had mar oh jesus any of them really any of them of michigan without wrecking a guy i mean you could you could hold a guy up you can block him you can i saw one time i forget who i think it was paul minard had did one of the best things ever it was i want to say it was detona or talladega somebody had turned him or done something to him,

and on the restart, you know, you got to stay in line. Well, he just didn't go. Like, they're there at the tail, and whoever had wrecked him was in the back with him, and he just didn't go. So now the guy lost the draft because Paul's car was wrecked, but he had to stay, he couldn't go around him, so he just kind of like half-throddled it to the line,

and by the time they got going, I want to say it was like the 48 maybe, but he lost a draft because Paul, you know, so you can affect guys and hurt guys' performance without wrecking him. Not to mention, there's also the pitstall selection, too, that you could. Yeah. You know, if William Byron gets knocked out, who's to say in the next few weeks he doesn't pick right in front of Kyle? Oh, yeah, we did that. The year that Harvick, I was spotting for Trevor, and Harvick wrecked us at Talladega. I'm sure you guys remember that. He was blown up. He wasn't going to make the chase if we went greens. It was a green-white checker, and he wrecked the whole field and ended up getting the chase by a couple points. We picked in front of him the rest of the season because we knew we'd be coming around him because he's going to outrun us.

And it affected him. He probably still won the damn championship that year. But we did everything we could to just play little games like that and show that we weren't very happy that he tore us up. All right, last one here. The Dylan Word asks if Brett and T.J. were chosen to participate in a celebrity family feud episode where NASCAR drivers played against NASCAR spotters.

I flip-flop that. Who would be on your spotter team and who would be on the driver team? So you get five people per team. I've been on Family Feud. They did that. They did this before. Yeah, I did. Family Feud.

It was like 2003. It was Robert E.H. Racing against Chip Gannasi Racing. So it was Elliott. Sadler was a driver. Sterling Marlin was the Gannasi driver at the time. And, man, it was an awesome experience. It was a lot of fun.

Did you win? No. You're out. You're not going to believe why we lost. So the PR girl, Amy Walsh, was on our team. Okay. And the question was this. She's standing up there at the little buzzer thingy, and the question was,

what body parts do a human and a chicken share in common? Boom. She rings them first. And I'm like, oh, we got this. We're getting ready to win the family feud. She goes, a thigh. Are you kidding me, Amy? A thigh.

Thigh. Ding. Last. Look at the other guy who was Lee McCall, the crew chief at the time for Sterling, he goes, breast. Ding, the number one answer is on the board. We were done.

We lost. And she was a chick because she couldn't identify what chicken and human body parts. I'm sure it's on YouTube somewhere. I'm sure. Oh, I've seen it before. Yeah. So who we got? Oh, man.

So if it's you three, then two more spotters. We need smart people. I don't know any of them. Really thinned up. Rains? Tony Rain is the most air-headed guy I've ever met I got it you know who would it be fun

I'd rather have fun I'll take uh I'll take Clayton Hughes he'd be fun what he would be okay he'd be slamming fireball right before you

I'd have to make like Earl the cat like Earl's got the most like like uh like just for his voice like he'd say thigh thigh all right yeah

All clear. I don't know. Are we have any smart spotters? I mean, Hirschman's a goddamn psychology major or something like that. I saw him reading the paper this last week. Like the paper, paper. Who reads the paper?

Hirschman. I can't even read. Not to mention every week I take pictures of him sitting in his laundry and I send him to his tire guy and I guess they got a little group. The family few just common sense stuff. It's not like jeopardy. I mean, come on, people. We're not looking for like rocket scientists. So we need a common sense.

sense? I go Timmy. Timmy's pretty... Timfeito? Yeah. Timmy's got common sense. Pretty good. Who are you picking?

I don't care who the drivers are. We'd whoop them. Doesn't matter. We got... Spiders have more common sense. We could... We could bring Harmon, Timmy Hill.

Timmy Hill. Quinn Hoof. Oh, boy. Apparently, I want... Riley heard. We definitely want to read. We want Reed. We want Reed.

He'd be team captain. He'd be team captain. No more than three boxes on entry or exit. Okay. How'd that work? Every time. Every time. Every time.

Single time. So who's the shirt winner? Best question. Definitely not that last guy. I don't know that question. And not Bradley. Not Bradley. Not Bradley.

No, he's too drunk. Oh. I think I like, I don't know. I mean, Bradley's pretty good. I'd say it has to be either Billy or Brew. Billy or Brew? Hannah, you pick your tie-b-b-breaker decision-maker. Just pick.

I think Bradley, honestly. That's a pretty good. That's an educated question. And he writes a lot. He responds a lot. And you had to edit his questions. The head coached right to the top. Right to the top for us.

And then we're going to give a shirt to a reviewer on iTunes. So I pulled up a tweet here from Jeff Noonie. His review was, Brett Griffin, it's my spirit animal. Love the podcast. Signed up on pristine auction because of y'all as well. Thanks for making my late night drive home something to look forward to. Hala. Perfect.

So we'll send them both shirts. I'll be reached out. Then if you leave an iTunes review in coming weeks, just send a screenshot to me on Twitter so I can see it. And we can put it in consideration for the drawing for the shirt. Two shirts a week we're giving away, people. You can't buy these things. Where do we go after Michigan? Bristol.

Bristol, Tennessee. Shoot. Johnson City, Tulose. Hey, so I got something. So we saw Kyle Busch wreck, and then we saw them wrecked. Then we saw him wreck William. Then we saw him break check William. And then we saw him wrecked Bubba.

And then we saw him get wrecked by Bubba. And then he restarted back there about 25th. We talked about it earlier on the show, all these guys on the bubble of this championship. You had Jimmy back there, Newman back there. I was back there. Somebody else was back there. We're all racing our guts out, trying to beat each other, get points. And I look at TV, and for six laps in a row, they're showing Kyle Bush.

And I'm literally thinking, you're not showing the race for the lead. You're not showing a good race that I'm watching for. 10th. You're not showing and talking about those of us that are vying for this championship bubble. You're literally showing Kyle Bush right around for five or six laps, passing cars for 20th. Like, this can't be exciting television compared to what we could be delivering. And I was sitting there watching on TV and I was just like, why? And so when I read these people at home, I read their reviews sometimes and they're, you know, they'll fuss about too many commercials, which I don't agree with. I mean, we've got to have commercials to pay for this stuff,

right? But there's a lot of things that people fuss about for TV. Well, I I was just watching TV. I couldn't hear it. And I was mad at TV because they weren't showing the relevant races on the racetrack. So that's my rant for the week. And while I love this conversation, I'm actually going to pee my pants. I'm going to go to the bathroom. Wow.

We'll do DBC picks while you're gone. Perfect. My damn rant this week is I feel like we need to have a little bit of common sense when we go to Wachens Glend or E. Wachan, Glend, there's a D. Waukens Glen or Sonoma about like we make a qualifying run in practice. or when we made a qualifying run and qualifying, just let us get out of the way.

Like qualifying now, they've made it mandatory to stay in the way for whatever reason. I had an issue in practice where we broke a transmission or rear-end gear, I'm not sure which one, and we were nursing our car back around, and I had fourth gear at the time. So if I stop in the bus stop,

which is mandatory during practice, I'm not going to get my car restarted. They're going to have to throw a yellow, bring everybody to pit road, go out there all the way around the backside of the racetrack, pick me up, push me back to pit road, And we almost got a penalty for it because they really weren't paying. Like, just like, especially in qualifying where you need to be able to get out of the way,

stop in the bus stop, let whoever's coming through there go through, or Sonoma used the cut-throughs. There was a cut-through in Sonoma we could have took to cut off the whole second half of the racetrack and brought us out right by the actions of Pitt Road. Like, let's just use a little bit of common sense. If we're going to do this qualifying where we're out there all flying laps or shutting down, there could be 15 cars out there. And seven are on hot laps, seven are trying to shut down to come to pit road.

like, you know, these guys are, just let them get out of the way. So, however it is. So I'll tell you, an idea for down the road. I saw another series that runs a lot of road courses. They actually move. Yeah. They move the start finish line. So basically they would take the checker flag and green flag in the middle of a right,

like a straightaway before pit road or something. So they move the start finish line. So when people are done, they're off the track within the next few seconds. they're pulling over and going down pit road. So, you know, maybe at the glen, you move the start finish line and qualifying between 6 and 7 or 10 and 11, whatever you want to call it,

and just for qualifying, obviously. It's way easier to judge the gaps when you're taking off off of pit road. Hey, this guy's on his lap, keep digging. Because you know he's never going to, you can judge that. You can stay in front of him. And when you come back around, he's pulling in.

Anyway, he's done. He gets right off the racetrack. So it's the coasting. These cars, you're running so much tape trying to hit it just right, you got motor temp just right, you can't run another lap at speed so people shut off and then you're real slow and you're just trying to get out of the way. So maybe if we move the scoring line for qualifying to a better spot to get the cars out of the way when they're done, it would create a lot less havoc in that

aspect. And surely it can't be very hard to do. I don't know what they're afraid of with us accessing the bus stop, you know, pass-through road. So many of them do it that they got to go in and manually say, don't count this lap, and I think they're getting tired of that. It's easier to make us run it. The K&N series, you take the checker flag at the start-finish line. They let you go down. I've seen that bridge, the Jack Daniels Bridge off of turn one. There's a cut through there where you come back up the act.

They tell them guys to do that. Get out of the way. Why don't we do it? How can the K&N series be allowed to do it and the Cup series not be allowed to do it? I just don't want to impede your path. I don't want to be in your way. There's a preferred line through the bus stop. It's really tight.

If you're trying to get out of the preferred line, you can really screw them up. Like it just, that the reality should be, if you miss the bus stop, you have to enter pit road. That way, you go out, you run your time lap,

and then if you, you want to run the bus stop, miss the bus stop on the out lap, on the in-lap, just missing. And a place like Watkins Glen versus Sonoma, Sonoma's different because we can see them a lot at Sonoma. We can tell them,

okay, this guy's here, this guy's here. I had to have three spotters for qualifying on Saturday because I can't, I can see two turns. Yeah. So you don't know,

all right, hey, this guy just left pit road, and ask, he's going to get to you somewhere back there, just be watching your mirrors or whatever, you know. DBC picks, boy. I'll take 95. Brett won again last year.

He's 13 to 8 now. D. Benedetto. The closest he can get to me. Brett, you're up 13? I'm winning 13 to 8. So if I lose the next three, I'm going to be going into the playoff with a two-point lead. And he's taking Dibbindetto right here, Matt Dibbendetto.

Yep. I'll go with the guy who probably needs a good finish as much as anybody, Daniel Hemrick. Yep. And that's... New Spotter this week for Daniel Hemrick. Yeah.

Guy named Crazy's coming back. Crazy used to spot for Matt Kenseth most recently. Swariz. Yeah, Suarez most recently. Then, Kenz. Was it Penske for a while? Who did he do at Penske? Kurt.

Did Kurt at Penske. So veteran spotter coming back to work with a rookie driver. So I got big expectations and most importantly, Crazy. And Daniel make sure we outrun Doug and Matt Dippendetto. Are you waiting to use me at Bristol? Is that what you're getting at here?

Yeah, I was definitely holding you for Bristol. I actually was saving Dimmadetto for Bristol and T.J. He just literally gave him to me. Well, I figure this package is going to be rough to come back into right off the bat, so it's going to be a little different to start with. Yeah. And I figure Hemrick's a short tracker, so he'll be more comfortable at Bristol. So it's a calculated risk here, and I hope it pays off.

You never know. That's why we pick them. Our $40 Thurman Thomas bids going well, so we'll see if we could have for TJ a couple more days left in the bid on pristineauction.com and then next week Joe Logano's coming right TJ? Yeah, I'll talk to him. He called in and said he was coming.

He said, when are you having me? And we say, I think, two weeks after Michigan. We said Monday after Michigan at 1230. That's how the conversation went. All right. We'll see. Bless. Well, thanks for listening, guys.

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