Door Bumper Clear - 149 - Spotter Takeover!

Episode Date: September 4, 2019

A trio of spotters takes over the show after Darlington to discuss the playoff bubble, Daniel Suarez vs Ryan Newman, Dale Jr.’s Xfinity Series return, Denny Hamlin’s Saturday disqualification, racing wide open at Indy and spotting the wrong car.   Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Door Bumper Clear. I know you've seen the driver takeover broadcast for the races. Today's Spotter Takeover Day on Doorbump Clear. I'm Freddie Craft Spotter for the Bubba Wallace and the 43 Cupball. I do my best Casey Bowton impression today, even though Casey's only about a quarter-mile size. I've got Brett and T.J. with me from a late night at Darlington. Today we're going to talk about the playoff bubble

with the regular season coming to an end this week. Junior's performance in Darlington and drivers would like to see retire and much more. Let's go. I'm T.J. Majors. This is Greg Rittman. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got here.

New leader. All right now for this guy. White flag. Reconna. Hello. Clear. Bring home. Three light.

Coming to the line. Door. Bumper. Clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. It's part of the 22 cup of car. And joining me today, obviously, is Freddie Kraft filling in.

And what is this your third show in a row? Yeah. Brett Griffin's spotter for Clint Boyer. Got double duty this weekend. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I got Austin Dillon in the 10 Xfinity car back with Colleg Racing. And then I've got Clint competing for one of the two final playoff spots up for grabs. Man, you don't want to be near.

It's a rough area to be around right now. I know, man, I know. We had a solid night in Darlington. Thank goodness we needed it. We had an okay first stage. Second stage got some points. Beat Jimmy by one there. Third stage had a top six.

finish and obviously Jimmy had a little trouble. It felt like he was the guy that we were racing that night to kind of be, you know, in contention to advance after Indy before his trouble. And once he had his trouble, man, he put himself back there kind of under fire again. And it was kind of cool, though, to watch Newman and Sauras going at it, you know, for that final transfer spot. I mean, realistically, it's four guys competing for two spots, you know. And that's what this playoff system does at this point of the year.

You know, I'd say it puts guys in these situations. where I think it's working as designed right now. I think so, man. And I'll tell you what else I think worked as design. I mean, it's throwback weekend at Darlington. And one thing it always does at Darlington is it's always rains at some point. And it did. It's always hot and it was.

It's always humid as it was. And we ended up racing until two in the morning. Yeah, you know, with, I don't know what all the factors were in the deciding part of it, but, you know, with the hurricane coming and nobody really, really knew was it was going to do. I know the, the, uh, the workforce that manned the racetrack was going to be significantly lower if they had to run the next day from, you know, for sure, from what I heard. And we had a great crowd there. Dude, the crowd was awesome all weekend. I mean, I realize there's some people with young kids there and I realize there's

some other people who don't like to stay up late that are there. But at the end of the day, man, if I'm a paying customer and I'm on site and I have a chance to watch the game that I bought a ticket for, I won't. want the damn thing to go off. I don't want to have to come back the next day. And I mean, look, it was already late by the time they were going to call it anyway. So let's just do what we did, man. Buckle them guys in the cars, roll them off pit road. And let's go put on a show for everybody who wanted to stick around. And if I'm a fan at home, man, I stay up. If I can, if I can, if I can't fall asleep and just keep checking it. You know, that's the way it is.

I think it works out. When you got a holiday the next day and it's a night race, I mean, I would, and there's no noise ordinance or anything, I would run it as late as you can. You know, that was probably. about as late as I would probably go for how long that race is. Yeah. Man, they're all stuck around. You feel like noise ordinances are almost a thing in the past? Because I feel like we don't really run into that as much anymore.

I mean, at Darlington, we're around a bunch of houses. Daytona, we were around a bunch of houses. We raced till four in the morning there. I almost feel like noise ordinances maybe aren't even a thing anymore. Richmond. Yeah, I think when you get closer to a city, like Richmond's got quite a bit more. We run the middle of night there. Yeah.

I mean, we run until 11. you know we run until we run until that's normally oh we've had rainouts go later yeah well i'm talking yeah i mean it i don't know i think um i think you got to get it in if you can get it in if you can start the damn thing i mean look we started at 10 o'clock you know yeah no i don't i think if you can run it run it but if the forecast looks bad and it's not even going to quit rain until 10 o'clock it was only seven on the west coast we always talk about that audience so yeah what time do we start that race hey thanks for tuning in what time do we start that race 10 o'clock yeah Yeah, that's about as, I mean, you've got to be drying by eight or nine.

It's to have a shot at this, most places. That place dried pretty quick, I think. If it had started on time, I think me and Freddie and her might have missed it because we saw that terrible-looking cloud that was coming at us, and I was like, we got problems. This thing's going to be catastrophic. And on that roof, I mean, TJ, I'll tell you, we don't have anywhere to go. No, there's nowhere to go, Darlington.

Like, literally nowhere to go. No, we don't have a place to go chill and get where it's dry and be out of the elements. So I just took all running to my truck. Yeah, there's nowhere to go at Darlington. But, you know, everybody stuck with it and we got it in. It was fun. Yeah, it was a good race, too. Yep.

So did you run the Xfinney race? No, man, I went to the South Carolina game and watched us get our ass kicked by a terrible North Carolina team. But they were better than we were the second half. their 119-year-old head coach out-coached our coach, and their freshman quarterback outplayed our senior quarterback, and they beat us. That video of Mack dancing, that had to make you feel good the next day. I didn't watch it.

That starts your year off bad. You were mad. I was pissed off. I know. Let me tell you why I'm pissed off. You start tagging the head coach in your tweets. So say he should be fired, that's when you know you're pissed off. When Will Must Champ came in there, he fired all my buddies that were on the coaching staff.

But I've tried to keep that personal and business and leave it separated. But we just lost our third game in a row to the ACC. I despise Clemson. I despise UVA. And North Carolina is a freaking basketball school. So to get beat by the A-She-she three times in a row, it pisses me off. So I call for his head because I've had enough, man. He's had four years.

These are his senior players. The offense sucked. We took three deep balls downfield all day. I spent $1,000 to go to the last two games. And we suck. So I'm pissed off. Sorry. I'm a UNC guy, so I'm freaking loving it. How are you a UNC guy from the north? This is typical UNC guys. No, my cousin played for the Tar Heels. He was all-American, Brian Bladows back in the day, and played in the NFL.

So grew up huge Tar Hill fans. Huge Tar Hill fans from Long Island, New York. Damn straight. He's a big guy. That's a typical. My cousin would have hands and sides of both of y'all's heads. They didn't graduate from there. They probably never been on actual campus. They may have been to a stadium. What part of campus did you go on, Dillner? What room did you see? I didn't go in a room, but...

What building did you see? I walked around campus. Typical UNC fan right there. I wasn't rich enough to go to damn UNC. This is like a Patriots fan. Just like it. Which favorite team, Patriots. Where'd you grow up, Kansas?

That's true. That's very true. That's not right. Damn Patriot fans. In two years, when Brady retires, who are you like now? Ah, man. Oh, San Francisco. The Rams.

The Chiefs. The Chiefs at my home's guy is really fun. Yeah, whatever. You know the best part about college football is we get to be a fan. You know, NFL's obviously rolling off this week. We get to be fans. We're all in fantasy leagues. So when fans get mad and send me crazy stuff on Twitter

and they MF me and they MF Clint and they tell us we suck. And then they obviously, you got way more fans to tell you how great you are. And I appreciate you guys. Y'all are the only ones I listen to. But as a fan after that game, I can relate to frustrations that I get sometimes. All you guys in fantasy leagues? Yeah. How many?

Each. Just one for me. Just one? Eight. Holy crap. Okay, so you got to understand. Freddie makes a partial living off fantasy football. We had, he was in the Spotter League that I had for a couple years, and what did you win it?

Two or three years in a row? I think he was so good. I think he was so good he won it twice in the same year. We single-handedly funded his Daytona, I was going to fund my speed weeks. So I wouldn't pay him until we went down there for Daytona and, you know, hey, you got my money.

Hey, you got my money. And the further you went into the weekend, it was like, hey, I'm going to need that money. DJ always went to race week. He didn't give it to me like qualifying week. That was better. Last night, lollipops was always a good one. Lollipops was a candy store.

I bet you he has good fantasy names. You only have one team, Brett. What's your fantasy name? Ass kicking chickens. That's not very That's pretty unique Mine's always Show me your TDs

Yeah that's good You don't have multiples I got a bunch There's somebody can't Some I can't say on air If I was going to do a new name It would be I have big Mahonas I got a one

I had a keeper league this year Where I got Sequin So my one's like watch what you say Quan Yeah There's a couple of them That's pretty good I'm a big Patrick fan though I got to see him play an EFC game

A little guy Hell of an athlete He's fun to watch the KC quarterback. Yeah, he's definitely fun to watch for sure. I'm excited to see how, well, now that we, the bills, got rid of McCoy.

And he went right to the place where his coach was. I mean, you could have probably seen that coming. He's going to thrive there. Yeah, he's going to do well, I think. But they have a lot of weapons, too, so it's not like they can just focus on him. But anyway, enough football, I guess.

That's Brett wants to talk Clemson. Can. I'm a fan of Clemson this week. Yeah. Who's a fair team this week? Donor, Clemson? No. Yeah.

Anyway. You all actually have colleges in New York? No, that's why I was never a damn... Not really. Not where we're from. Syracuse is up there. I'm a Syracuse fan. I'm a Syracuse fan.

Syracuse is like middle of the state. We got like the closest one to us that's a big time school would be like either St. John's is out kind of Queens. They don't play football. Or Stony Brook. They're like... Basketball teams. Hofstra.

Basketball teams. Yeah. I mean, you got like U.B is pretty decent. Who? Yeah, exactly. UB? What the hell is UB? UB.B.

University of Buffalo. Oh, Buffalo. Oh. I mean, they've had some good athletes come out of there. They've had some good athletes come out of there. What, you? No.

Oh, wait, no, you said athlete. Yeah, athletes, man. Well, speaking of athletes, you got a full-body mirror? You're talking to Freddy or me? No, you. T.J's on diet. He's lost eight pounds. I know, I got his hair cut.

T.J.'s looking good these days. Are you trolling? Are you getting ready to get his? separated. That's what chicks do, man. When they're about to leave their old man, they lose weight, they get their hair grow back out, they get new makeup. Man, they get on that Atkins diet or that keto diet.

They're rolling you like, damn, girl, you're looking good. I thought keto was something you played at the casino. It's like, hey, I'm a, I'm with him no more. They both get numbers. So I heard, and I'm not going to say names other than Earl and Herm. You know what I'm getting You know what Earl told her? Should we say that?

Yeah, why not? It's fun. So Earl goes up to Herm and he goes, didn't he ask if he was married? He said, Herm, you got a full-length mirror? We didn't ask him he was married first? No, he knows he's not. Okay. That's what he was getting at.

He started off by saying. So Earl Barbin goes up to Mike Herman. Earl spots for the 48. Herm does 17. You finish it. They're both bigger than I am. But they, So Earl walks up to Herm and he's like, hey, you got a full-length mirror in your house?

And Herm's like, yeah, why? He's like, well, that's kind of how I decided to get married. Maybe you need to take a look at it. He said, what? He said, yeah, Earl said, I come out of the shower and walk by that mirror. And he said, I kind of just bounced up and down a little bit and said, I better marry hers. I ain't getting no better look.

And he says, I think maybe it's time for you to try that. So, Herm flipped him off and walked off. But, yeah, so. Get jiggle with it. I think, yeah, get jiggle with it is for sure. Nah, nah, nah, nah, man. I don't think. Hurt can have all the mirrors he wants.

I don't know when he's ever getting married. He needs a lot of them. Poor Kelly. Jeez, oh, man. I got flipped off by Herman this weekend. Did you? On the drive home, yeah. He's about eighth in line, and we pulled up to a red light,

and he tried to get in the right lane when it was getting ready to end, and it didn't work out for him. I was so disappointed, so we're driving. I rode home with Doug Campbell, and we get behind Priest, which I don't know if you've seen Priest's car, but he's got like the suit-up Mustang that's slammed to the ground. How did Priest beat you out of the racetrack? Well, we stopped to get something. Okay.

But he parked outside, too, so he was hauling ass. But, so him and Reagan are out of the light in front of us, David Reagan. And we see, me and Doug see cops off to our left, but they can't see him because they're talking to each other. So then we're, like, trying to egg them on, like, go, go, go, go. And Ryan's tacking it up. And I'm like, here we go. This is going to get exciting.

And I'm like, we're trying to egg Ryan on, and he didn't go. And Reagan kind of almost rolled through the red light trying to race him. And I was like, oh, this is going to be awesome. They took off. And then cops, I don't know if they didn't see him or what, but it was, what a letdown. I was like, hopefully both these guys ended up in jail. Oh, that have been awesome. Yeah.

But what a let down. That would have been awesome. Yeah, to witness that. Yeah. Well, to egg it on was because all you got to do is tell Ryan, like, you won't. You won't do it. You won't do it. He's better than you.

Yeah. Just get him going a little bit. Yeah. And Ryan will, he definitely doesn't, he'll perk up to that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah.

Anyway, all right. Should we move on? Well, yeah. I mean, we're talking all this football. All we've done is fill up this table with damn footballs and crap. I think we need to start filling it up with some other stuff. What do you all think? What do you think?

What do you think? Like a, like a Henry Glunquist mask or something, Dillner? Is that what you're looking towards? This is the last time I suggest you host the show. I got my Islander stuff up in here, so screw you. Do you? Yeah, man, I got Islander stuff all up in here. Got Bobby Nystrom, man.

Real nice. These guys are like, what the hell are you guys talking about? No, I just know the islanders. Speaking French? I know the Islanders suck, so. Yeah, that's true. They've won the Stanley Cup. I take after them as many times the Sabres have in the last 20 years.

What are we going to bid on next? It's got to be something not sports, guys. Not like football or baseball or something like that. So racing is not a sport? Oh, don't keep you start there. You know what side of the fence I'm in on that one. Well, so I saw a Ned Jarrett sign number 11, 1965 Ford Galaxy diecast. Ooh.

Also, a Cayley Arboral sign number 27, 1965 Ford Galaxy diecast. I don't know. I'm going to have to go with the... They're both good-looking college. I got to go with kale. Really? Yeah. South Carolina native, the sand lapper, Kail Yarborough.

Oh, yeah, but that Bondi-Long, that Bondi-Long number. 11 there with the white wheels is so damn good looking that blue 11. Gentleman Ned's a bad man too. He's the great guy. That's a better looking car. Can we get both? Can we go for both? We can place a bid on both, right?

Yeah, he ain't never going to, you know, I think we have a budget per week. I know, but what if we just split it and see if we can get them both? Yeah. We could try, but. And then if one gets too high, we'll cancel that bid and add it to the next one. True, true. I say let's go with both. I like it.

Let's get both. Let's fill this table up. Let's use Dale Jr.'s budget. Oh, no. What budget? Oh, whatever. Yeah. Anyway.

All right. Should we move in, move on to spot on, spot off? Come on, host. What? Move us into hot. This is the rookie host right here. Well, I didn't realize we were done yet. Did we decide we're going to bet on both of them?

Well, let's just try for both of them. All right, we're going to try for both of them. I'm secretly rooting for Ned, though. Me too. I'm with you. All right, let's move on spot on spot off. Spot on spot off. He's spot off then.

That's cool. Not long you like it. Spot off, you don't like it, and you say why either way. All right, first topic. I don't know why Jason. Did Jason think Casey was coming today? No, it says Casey. Do I got to do this in Casey's voice?

The print is so small. I can't read it. Here's why I get annoyed at this show because I know why I'm here hosting today. This is ridiculous. Yeah, why are you here? Because you guys could not get a hot chick to replace Casey or Hannah, so you just went with your buddy with the biggest breasts. I don't appreciate that at all, okay?

I mean, I wore my push-up right. day to make them look better, but this is nonsense. Well, you know. So can you be Casey for the first one? No chance. Next time, do it. A tank top, too. A halter top.

I look like a sports bra. Actually, you could pull off a sports bra. A 4x. I think, I believe I've shown my abs enough on this show in the past. That's true. I don't think anybody else's ever seen. I didn't see any abs. They were there.

We drew them on, but they were there. All right. First topic, playoff bubble with one regular season race remaining. 15th, Clint Boyer, eight to the good, 16th, or tied for 16th as Daniel Suarez and Ryan Newman and Jimmy Johnson after his mishap on Sunday night is 18 points out. Who you got, Brett? I'm spot on because I'm first out of these four. Honestly, man, it's going to be a fight to the end of the brickyard. And if we didn't have stage points, I would feel a lot more comfortable.

going into this race knowing that we're ahead of three guys with an eight point margin and then obviously a 20-something point margin. But it only takes two stages to really wipe that lead completely out if we don't get points and a couple, three of those guys do. So it's got to be another solid weekend, just like we had in Darlington, where we get stage points and have a top, you know, top seven single-digit finish to give us a chance to move on. I'm spot on. What better, this is like a playoff race already. Like this is an elimination race It doesn't really get much better than You know two guys three guys four guys right here

That are all eligible to be in there you got You know Brett's gonna be nervous all race Which I'm not nervous You're gonna be nervous during the race I'm gonna enjoy that I'm gonna enjoy watching the especially after last week The 41 of the six having there That's gonna be interesting how that goes

And then you got seven times sitting back there who could who literally tweeted this morning he can't wait to get there like he's being confident which i've had seven championships i would too they've been a little faster lately too i mean you never know man he might he might get up there and lead some laps and be a threat for the win and then who is uh who is outside that could possibly win now like is there anybody is there anybody 18th or worse here's the thing t j like we've seen paul minard win there we've seen kate who was completely out of the playoff did not have a lot of speed that year he won there.

So two things can make that happen. A wreck that takes out a lot of really good cars, which with this package, a restart, that could easily happen. We even saw it happen at Darlington where a wreck took out a lot of good cars, right? Or a fuel mileage play, a strategy play. A yellow near a window. Yeah, the stages certainly decreased those opportunities for fuel-mage races, but nonetheless, we could easily see a Ricky Stenhouse or somebody that caliber

sneak in here with a win. Then it only puts one guy in on points. So I'm sure the media will do a great job controlling that narrative. there may only be one spot up for grabs here. We don't know. Yeah, you're right. Never know. Jimmy said, wishing it was Sunday already.

This team is ready to race. Let's go. Like, he tweeted out a little bit ago. So, yeah, fired up. Earl was they all right. And that's the thing you got to play is you got to play offense. You got to do what he did the other night. I mean, if you get caught up in crap, you get caught up and crap.

But if we've talked about on this show, if you go run and play defense, you're not going to make it. You're going to suck. I agree. You're one mistake away, like you said, you got a 15 point gap right now. You're one speeding penalty in the first segment away from that gap being erased. Don't. Somebody finishes fourth or fifth in both stages.

You're back tied racing at the end. So it's way tight even though the point gap is 15. It's not 15 positions because of them stage points. Jimmy's got the ability to put a lot of pressure on these guys if he gets up there. He's got the ability to, you know, Clint's in. But if he sees, if he looks at that scoring pile on, you say the 48's leading, you've been in that situation before where there's been a guy leading. And you know, you're like, oh, you never know when that could happen.

Never know. So. Maybe Debedetto leading the other week. Did I say it right that time? No. If he wins. If he wins, now we're talking about one spot. Well, here it is the last race in that scenario is still out there.

Yeah, that's what a lot of people gave Newman, you know, grief over running them as hard as well, right now, Newman would be 15 points out if the Benedetto won. Correct. Instead of tied for that last playoff spot. Yeah. Big difference. We talked about how important that was. You know, I don't think Ryan meant to hurt his car or anything. Ryan's got a race.

Yeah, like you got to. Your whole entire season depends on that guy winning that race or not. You know, he, there was nothing. I mean, it wasn't the nicest move in the world. You know, everybody kind of wanted the feel good story of him winning, but that, you know, put him way behind the eight ball. Clint and Jimmy raced each other extremely hard to end stage two the other night. I mean, beating, banging, guys are going around us three wide

because we're both doing all we can do. Same thing for Newman and, and obviously Suarez, which we'll get to that in a minute. But, I mean, these four guys, are going to race each other like that all day if they're around each other at any. Yeah, yeah. Let's move on to that now. Newman says what comes around goes around after spinning while racing with Suarez on Sunday night. Yeah, I didn't. I mean, spot on. You make your own luck.

You spin the guy your race, and I would expect it back at some point. You know, I'm not saying Ryan's going to go out there and spin anybody, but he's going to race the 41 exceptionally hard. I mean, he's got to anyway. Yeah. But now he's been making really hard. I remember, I know TJ said a lot about this, you know, are you ready for what comes around talking about Ross this year and some of the racing we've seen? Do you remember when Newman wrecked Larson on purpose? Yes, Phoenix.

Okay, so if So Perez does that to Newman, is that karma for Newman or has Newman got a right to be fighting mad? Ooh. T.J. Ah. That's a good point. Yeah, I'm not sure. Newman just said what goes around comes around I think now he's fighting mad

because Daniel's already done it once But did Daniel really wreck him? I don't know I didn't see it I didn't see what led up to it Did he really wreck him? Pretty much You think so?

Yeah I think he fought I mean he kind of sweet You know how turn one narrows out You have you seen that? Oh yeah no I have seen replay I saw it off Turn one narrows out so they kind of both run in on the apron

And then Daniel's probably at Just behind his wheel And then just chases them up to the wall And turns them Daniel said he came across his nose, but they were both going up the hill when he spun, so I don't know how that's possible. Well, no race car driver's ever going to miss doing something wrong. I would, I put the, I actually told Bubba during the race, I said, hey, 41 just turned to six just in case we end up around them. The rest of the evening, it's probably going to get big.

Yeah. Yeah. I once said the 43 just turned the 18, you got to watch out. Where? I don't know, man. You know, this is what makes this format exciting. It is. This is what it was built for.

These guys are under pressure now, they know it. It's a game seven moment for us four to transfer into the finals, period. It's not a game seven moment for the championship, but it's a game seven moment to survive. And I think that's a good thing for what NASCAR tried to create with this platform. I mean, dude, we've seen so many times we would get the homestead, the final race of the year, or Atlanta, the final race of the year when it was a final race. And the points leader be decided upon well before we even showed up. You're not going to see that with this format.

So if you're a race fan, I realize it's completely against everything. We're all built on in the 80s and 90s. But for excitement, this is it. It doesn't get any better. Hey, let me ask you this. That year that Ryan moved Larson, is that the year that he went to the final four? Yes. Yes.

Newman seems to find his way into these scenarios. When y'all were needing that win at Richmond, who was leading the race? Newman. Yeah. I wasn't needing a win. Well, I mean, you needed him not to win. Right. No, I didn't.

It didn't matter to me. Well, he's in these situations a lot. He's in these situations a lot. So you're saying he performs under pressure? I mean, he obviously did something at Phoenix when he moved Larson and went to Homsett and raced for a championship. Do what you've got to do? The 22 has done that before, too.

Yeah, I don't. I mean, I think Daniel might have, to me, Daniel made his bet a little early a week before he needed to, in my opinion. Now you can't go do that again, otherwise. You're never. Ryan, Ryan, going to make sure he won't, you know. Yeah, you're right.

I mean, I don't disagree with you. I don't think we talk about the rest of the show. He got, who's going to transfer? Brett, you only get to pick one. Well, obviously, I'm going to pick myself. And I truly believe that us and Suarez have the best chance, because I look at Newman and he doesn't have the speed that the other three have. However, Jimmy, the last few weeks, has found a lot of speed.

But he's not executing. They're not executing. So, I mean, Jimmy's got a, I personally think if you made me gamble on it, I would say Clint and somehow another Jimmy. But I want it to be Clint and Suarez because I'd love to see SHR. Obviously get all four cars then. I mean, when you look at organizations, you could do that. It's a big deal. Yeah, I think you have the best, your odds are the best right now.

But, you know, if you play too much defense and Jimmy's playing offense, Newman's not going to be a factor of the first part of the race, but he finds his way near the front. finds his way up there when he's got to when it couldn't count. Sadly, Newman and I will probably qualify the worst, and that's the least favorite part of my weekend as we come down to this. I'm not nervous doing my job on Sunday. I'm nervous as to where we'll qualify every week. I mean, last week, Suarez and Jimmy both in the front, and we're back there 13th. Like, that's just kind of been our deal this year, and we need to show up, and we need

to qualify top six. You know, wouldn't you, didn't Clint say that wasn't Clint mad at Ryan at Charlotte? Yeah, I'll start race. Yeah, he said he like finished like 15th, 20th every week. Now you're all racing for, not you're racing for 15. Racing for 15 of points. Racing for your life. Anyway, it should be exciting, man.

It's going to be exciting. You got, I mean, Quinn's got a good shot. If he just goes and runs a quietly smart racing. Got to execute. Yep. Yeah. I think the only thing you're really looking at this week is that Newman in 41 battle. And Daniel's been, I feel like he's been a little bit, you know, hot tempered this year,

which could also come into it if somebody else races them hard. Maybe he puts himself in a bad spot this week. So I'm with you, though. Somehow I feel like it's going to be Newman. I mean, you guys and Johnson. The thing is, you know, when you're looking at it from our perspective, is we only have to beat one out of three. And if we can score more points than one out of three, we're definitely in. So I just we can't get tunnel vision and get caught up in the next stage and win in the race.

And like you have to literally watch what they're doing and call your race based on beating one out of three. I think one of your biggest enemies here is Newman. He's going to be like you said, he's not going to have the speed to be in the top five or six or whatever where he probably needs to where he needs to be to have a shot at winter or whatever. But if we get a caution at the right time, he's going to throw the Hail Mary. and that's where he's going to go off sequence. He's going to do what everyone else doesn't. And you're going to be like, all right, let's see where, oh, the six is second.

Yeah. Lining up second. We're 13th. And let's be honest, what tire and the tire performance this weekend plays into that. Yeah. I mean, so I think it's awesome. We got so many different strategies that are going to be played.

I mean, Newman's whole career really came to life. Obviously, he sat on a lot of polls. It gave him a lot of opportunities to have a good pit stall and start up front. But Newman's whole career came to life when in races, when his crew chief, Matt Borland, was calling all those races aggressively, stay out, no tires, come in and get two tires. Like, he caught the tire game

and perfect for what Borland did for strategy. Now everybody's on the same sequence. But what tire good year brings could play in to how Ryan likes to race in terms of taking a car that's not that fast, a tire that's willing to hold on, leaving them out there with track position. And like we said before, it's like passing a kidney stone when you catch a guy.

Yeah. Speaking of Borland and these crew chiefs, don't discount them either because we talk about these guys not having speed, miraculously in some of these cutoff races, the last race in these chases, all these cars seem to pick up a little bit. I don't know if they push the envelope and tech a little bit more or not, but these guys can pick up speed.

I don't think he's not going to make it this week. Yeah, he's not going to make it this week, I don't think. Daylor and Hart Jr. is now finished top five in both post-retirement Xfinity races. T.J. Spot on. He had a good run at Richmond last year. It was probably going to win the race to the late caution came out.

and he was having fun man i could tell he did an in-car interview with um with burton after the first stage or the first yellow and he was talking so fast and so loud and then at during the interview he's like yeah i'm really surprised at how calm i am but he's talking so fast and so loud i went into his bus the next morning i'm like you know how excited and loud you were talking when you were saying you were really calm. It was hilarious, but he was having a good time, man. It didn't take him long to get right back into his ways of how he used to race, Darlington. He was one of the first ones up right against the wall early in three, and he's one of the only ones that did it most of the day because he can. He's that talented. He's good enough at doing it. And, I mean, he had a

solid run. I mean, I don't think there's, did you, you weren't there, but I got on the elevator and I was going down and you could hear, I could tell when he got out of the car. Like the crowd was so loud. You weren't there. It was unreal. And they're cheering for a lot of things right there. Not just him racing. They're cheering for him still being on earth with us.

I mean, little bit of the crowd we had, just the crowd we had for the fact that he was, I looked down, we're getting ready to go green. There's still lines of people trying to get in the racetrack. Yeah. Like just because, you know, I mean. Yeah, the racetracks got. It was a funny moment on the spoter saying, we're racing Christopher Bell. it's about halfway through the race, and he's faster, and us.

He clears us on the bottom and three, but doesn't slide up in front of us, and we go back around about 12-9-hour faster. It was awesome. And there was about half the spotters turned around or fist pumping and stuff, just, like, you know, cheering for him. Well, here's the thing. Dale Jr.'s legacy is already written, right? He's already going to go down as an Xfinity Series back-to-back champion,

a guy that won a lot of races who competed, who won Daytona 500. His legacy is written. And here he is two weeks ago in a plane crash, and he decides to put on his tough guy helmet and get back in the race car and show how big of a real-life badass he is when in all reality, he doesn't have one single reason to do that.

He's already wealthy, he's already got Junior Motorsports a successful business. He's already a great broadcaster. He has zero motivation to put that helmet on other than to just go be a badass. And when all them guys were fist-pumping, that's why they were fist-pumping

because they were like, Dale Jr. is still a badass. Yeah, it was fun, man. just to see him get back out there and have the fun that he was having and be competitive, man. The main thing was just being competitive. I mean, I could tell. That's the other thing. He didn't just go right around.

He went to race. He was there to race. When I saw him get up by the wall and he was starting, he was like one of the pioneers of the early, get to the wall. You know what that's in his bloodline? He can't help it. When I saw him do that, I was like, okay, well, we're racing the rest of this race. We're not just riding around here. When I saw him do that, I was like, okay, it's going to be on now.

Good for him. Step toward more normalcy given what they were up against. Hopefully it helped the whole family. It certainly helped every race fan that I know and everybody in the industry just to see him go do it. Because he didn't have to do that. And the crowd for cheering there, man. That's awesome. Yeah, that was one of the loudest cheers I've heard all year.

Like it's from after a race like that. Yeah. There is that. Yeah. I was following Dale all weekend, of course. Imagine that. Dirty Moe Media. Dirty Moe Media has put it.

together another documentary and this one's got so much more layers to it. But that moment, Dale even said afterwards when we were driving out of there, how that was one of the best moments he's ever had fan-wise, like standing there and just them cheering. That's big. But I wanted to ask you guys because I know Brett you weren't there, but TJ, you were busy working and you were busy working. But at any point during that race or during a caution,

did you look down at the grandstands? Because what I was amazed by was the amount of blue shirts with pretzel. Yeah, I saw that. It kind of stuck out for me. I couldn't believe it. Did you guys notice that? I did notice a lot of shirts that obviously were sold that weekend or coming up to this weekend. I noticed it myself.

I noticed a bunch of them actually walking through the tunnel to go to the roof. I said like four or five people. Every time he made a pass, you could tell. Because the crowd, I saw guys, it's almost like they were staged. It was the guys that were standing up, like, pointing telling them to go. You know, like, there was a lot of people doing that. Megan and John, my brother, watched the race, and they were, like, just talking about how much fun he had.

Like, they said he just spent, like, maybe it was a Burton interview. They said he spent, like, a whole lap, like, driving his car up and say, oh, my, it's doing this up here, and it's going over here. Like, he said, like, he just had that much, but you can tell how much fun he was having behind the wheel. Yeah, it was fun, man. Great place for him to run, too, man, with all the race fans there, and, and what a facility to do it at.

It's got to be good for you to be back with him, too. I was fun, yeah, it was like old times. He didn't yell, though, so I was going to say he's probably a lot better mood. I really thought he'd get a little lippy at some point. But when I saw him go up by the wall and I'm like, okay, well, we're racing now. I mean, he's doing this stuff because he wants to get up to the front. I was like, yep, at some point he's going to get mad. But he never did.

He did good. I thought about you during the middle of the cup race. Clint was coming off four on a restart. And, man, he might have been clear. He might not. As you well know, that's a tough angle. And he was like, I think I was clear right there. And I thought to myself, you know what?

You thought you were clear at Bristol, too, when you wrecked yourself. But I didn't say that. Yeah. I said, well, you'll probably know you're clear before I will right there. So if you think you're clear, go ahead and scoot up. That just happened to you recently with Elliott somewhere. You were leading or battling for the lead, weren't you? And he, it was at Darlington.

Bristol, maybe. Bristol, you direct them. But Darlington, I remember, he'd come off a four and cleared himself, I think, like two years ago, three years ago. Yeah, yeah. And ended up in the fence. Yeah. That's a really tough angle for us.

We're looking at cameras. That's the problem. We've got the fence in our way, cameras in our way, the angle of the view. We're low to the racetrack. There's other spotters, Tony Ranges' heads in my way. I looked at Bleach Blonde hair for 500 miles. Yeah, the sled agent's up there.

Hey, Dillner, we got this chick. She's 5'10. I just talking about Monez. Oh, yeah, I was thinking Monez with the jeans, man. Oh, we got this chick with full tactical gear. I mean, she's, I'm like scared of this woman. A big mouthful of dip. Yeah, she was spitting in a freaking.

She's a fan or a spotter? No, she was a sled agent, which stands for South Carolina. of law enforcement division, which is basically our version of the CIA, right? Full tax. I'm sorry, our version of the FBI. But she's up there, like, just mac. Oh, I saw her, yeah. There's two of them.

I was scared the death of her. No, she was serious, man. She wasn't messing around. No, man. She kicks in the door. I'm laying down. How many beers would it take to you fight her? Hey, me and TJ could chicken fight her and she still be taller than us.

We could probably, should beat us at the same time, what. She'd beat me with you. Yes. She'd pick you up and beat my ass. There's no doubt, man. All right. Toyota and Joe Gibbs Racing win their 13th Cup race of the season at Darlington. Now have six more wins than Ford. Brett.

We said two weeks ago, if you're not in Toyota, it's almost like you're at a deficit, and I think this says it. I mean, you even watch Tivin and Deddo. Do you get it right at that time? Close. Close. When he runs a Gibbs car at the short tracks and at the road courses, he's very relevant. When you get him to the mile and a half,

I'm assuming at Indy this weekend, he probably will be back in their stuff and won't be relevant. Their cars are so much faster that he looks like a hero when he gets in that car. Fast cars go fast. Spot on for what they're doing, spot off for what the rest of us are trying to do, which is beat them. Yeah, you know, there's, I mean, who's got most of their wins? How many has Kyle got? Dude, they've all got them. Each driver had four going into Jones's win.

Yeah, so between Truex and Danny's got three or four now. Then he's got three? I think they all had four, but I could be wrong. Yeah, a bunch. That's pretty good, man. They're all winning. Yeah, tough to deal, but it's nothing that can't be done. So you've got to keep fighting and keep racing and see where you end up.

Like you said, they got it going on right now. The worst one up until Denny's wreck, the worst one all night was the 95 and he was in the top ten most of the race. I've seen this story before. Yeah, it comes around. I've seen this story before. I get hot at the right time. The big three and me. All right, on to the next one.

Team owner Bob Levine's tweet. Let's go read with that, says. A guy named Kevin Morin said about Matt D. Benedetto. Matt is the direction NASCAR needs to go. And Bob Levine, car owner of the 95 that he drives, that DiBinadetto drives, responded saying, Kevin, what upsets me more is there are 30 people involved to get our car on the track to give Matt the best car possible. and no one cares about them.

It's driver, driver, driver. That's all I hear. It's a team sport people. We have 30 important people that works for LFR. It's not the fan's job to care about the 30 employees. It's his job.

He's the owner. That's who's got to care about the employees, right? It's the fan's job to care about the storefront, and the storefront is the driver. And that in this case is Matt. So, man, I appreciate how candid. Bob has been on Twitter. However, I've been in this sport 20 years,

Heard wrote an article on silly season a few weeks ago for the athletic. And at the end of the day, owners don't have to care about their employees. They should, but they don't always, and that's his job. And the reality is there are two things that bring you sponsors. The driver, or in this case, sometimes a driver's dad. I mean, that's what we've seen this thing trend towards. So who is in your car is what's important. What we know is Christopher Bell will be bringing a lot of sponsorship when he gets to this car.

Now, it's not going to be his dad. It's going to be driver-based sponsorship. And that's okay. That's the way that the model is trending. But for him to say that, you know, fans should care about the employees back at the shop, they don't care. They never have. Yeah. I mean, I get his side of it, though, because there are, you know, seven, eight, ten guys that travel with that car every week that work all week at the shop.

They can go to the racetrack, too. How many fans could name one of those people? No, that's what I'm saying. They don't, there's sometimes I feel like there's not enough recognition for those people. I don't disagree with you, but as a sports fan. Yeah, no, no, you know, most time, like NFL, everyone knows who the quarterback is. Probably can't name many people after that. I'll just say, do you know who the head coach's secretary is?

Exactly. So, but I mean. That's the owner's problem. Yeah, so, but, I mean, I get his, I get his point of it. And it'd be, it'd be cool if there was a way to recognize the guys that do bolt that thing together so it can go and do what it's intended to do on the racetrack. But like you said, fast cars go fast, and they go fast because they got people putting them together. You know, and sometimes I think it could be, there could be a little more recognition for those guys.

Because those guys are awesome, man. All the crew guys that put in them ours for every team, man. They, you know, they really work their tails off. I care about the crew guys because I know who they are. But the fans, this guy barking in a fan about caring about a crew guy, they don't even know who the crew guys are. So why would they care? Yeah. If he can name all 30 employees in his tweet, maybe they recognize the name, maybe they care.

Yeah. But as a sports fan, I can start. certainly understand where the fans coming from saying, hey, Matt is my guy. He's been doing well for you the last half of the year. The first half of the year, Matt was terrible. He couldn't finish above 20th to save his life. And now he can't help but finish better than eight. It's how much better he's been the last 10 weeks. Fans also get attached to the drivers more because they're the ones they see. They're the ones on camera. They're the ones that are signing the autograph. That's why. That's how they get attached to that too. Well, I mean,

let's face it. When Matt's doing well, they're not saying the spotter's name over the television nonstop. They're not saying the crew chief's name nonstop. They're not saying the team owner. And they're certainly not saying the car chief, the front end mechanic, and the tire guy's name. So this fan doesn't know who those people are. Yeah.

Quick rant on talking about recognition for, you know, team members and stuff. Have you noticed lately the driver intros, the front row they bring the pit crew out with them? Yeah. I love that. Why is it the pit crew? What did the pit crew do to get that front row starting spot? It's true.

Like bring the road crew out there. The guys that actually built the car. and made it, you know, to where you qualify on the front row. But, I mean, it's awesome that anybody's getting recognition, but in that situation, why is it not the road crew versus the pit crew? Well, I think we all need more personalities to be. I mean, the thing is, if you're only covering 40 guys, which there's only 20 really relevant guys,

you're limiting yourself as to who you can cover. So if you can get those guys and their story out, I mean, that's all people really want to do is hear about the story, the human interest side of things. I mean, I saw that. I don't know if you guys saw it the thing they did on Big Ed the other week at Joe Gibbs Racing and how he's been a part of so many championship teams. Now he's a business owner, owns Denver Marine over in Denver, North Carolina.

Like, when I see those stories, even as someone in the industry, I have a lot of respect for them highlighting those people. But yeah, I mean, why can't you just bring everybody out there? The road crew guys have been gone four days. The pit crew guys just got there. Yeah, they got there three hours ago. Now, hey, we were on the front row, go walk across the stage. They got there.

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Let's go into Fast Lane. Three racing questions. One off-the-wall question. 30 seconds to respond to each. Only 30 seconds. How are you going to start with some talking? Good luck. Fast Lane.

Okay, so we each get 30 seconds here to respond to these questions. it was oh ricky stenthouse breaking news during the race it was reported that rickie stenthouse said over his radio he's glad tydillon is retiring at the end of the year is there anyone out there you'd like to see retire Brett what does rick know tie's young I mean I might have heard a rumor about this but I didn't know we're going to bring me during the race like what Andrew luck retired can you believe Andrew luck retired no I can't I don't blame him 29 years old rich hurt I'm gone I don't blame him one bit all right who would I like to see retire man i got to give it up for uh the guy that's timmy hill your friends now we're friends

i got to give it up for the guy that's 212 years old morgan shepherd man let's hang the helmet up let's go pray let's go celebrate jesus let's go to schools and talk about jesus and race and man let's hang it up it's time morgan retire oh man you know i you look at the age group of some of the guys that are up there but they're still performing like Harvick, you know, those guys, how old's Harvick? 42, probably. Yeah, but I mean, he's one of the older ones now, right? He didn't start winning until he's 50.

Exactly. So it's hard for me to say you want to see some of these guys that have been around a while retire when they're still performing. Yeah. So, you know, I don't really have anyone that stands out on my list right here. You don't have anybody in all a NASCAR that you'd like to see retire. Hirschman? Yes. And not the driver, Hirschman.

That's spotter, Hirschman. You don't like Tony Herschman? No, he's not. I got one. Who you got? Reed Sorensen. Why? Because he drives me insane every week we try to lap his ass.

God. I got to say this happened to me at Darlington. So you know how it is, man. Like your car's fast. It's a different color every week. I mean, we don't all run the same paint schemes like we used to. So we're red and black last weekend honoring Tony Stewart. And you know how quickly and how frequently you catch these lap cars?

Yeah. So I'm spot, man, it's one in the morning. I feel like I'm doing a hell of a job. And I glanced in one of two because I was looking at something else. And I could have sworn that we were passing one of those black unsponsored cars. And I was like, clear how I all clear. And I looked forward like 30 feet. And I'm like, that wasn't us.

We're in front of that guy. Oh, yeah. But we catch those cars so damn. If you don't constantly stare, every 10 seconds, you're going to pass one of those cars. That's what happened to me there with Dale Jr. That's what happened to me, man. I started spotting a guy in front of us, and I was like, outside, outside, and I look over there, and he's against the wall in three and four. I'm like, oh, nope, that's not happening.

Yeah, no. So Clint doesn't say a word about it. I don't even think he realizes it because of the reality is what I told him was true. Clear, you're all clear. So he called me the next day, which I assume his brother or wife, who listens to both channels, call me out because Clint's at his pool, and he called me, and I was at the neighborhood pool, and he's like, you spotted the wrong car last night, didn't you? And I was like, I could lie to him right here, but I think he's got evidence. I'm going to own it. So I was like, yeah, man, that one time, at 1 15 a.m.

I screwed up. He was like, I said, but I didn't lie to you. You were clear. Yeah, we had, we, I'll always tell blah, but like, your car stood out. Yeah, mine was awesome. My car looked like, to me, it looked like the Rainbow Warrior car too. Like when I would like scan back and find it. But we put on tire, he had gotten in the fans that we pit, like in the middle of a run to put tires on, so we're busting through the field.

Yeah, you pass me running. 200. And I guess, you know that white, it was the white, it was a 52, I think it was, that was terrible, slow in a way. So I always tell Bobba, like, slow bottom or slow top or, you know, whichever they're, wherever they're running at. And then we're running one down. I said, here's another slow one.

And it was the 95. I thought it was the 52. He's like, I mean, I know I'm faster in him right now, but he's not really a slow guy. I'm like, oh, well, I mean, we're better than him right now. The 52, I literally called down the pit box and I said, please tell me this guy's running him on speed. They're like, no, he ain't close. Like, we got too much on the line to have this clown in the way.

I don't even know who was driving that car. He was out of the way, though, when we, he was low. He stayed on the bottom, yeah. There's a few of them that you would catch. I don't run a minimum speed. I don't know if I felt bad for him. Which one was he? He was in the one that looked at a 54.

He might have been who I fussed about. His left rear quarter panels blown out. He got run over. I think Reagan run over. Off a two. So he was one of the ones that wasn't moving. Like you were going around him on the. bottom. So you had to plan ahead. And the 77 and the 54 were...

Seventy-7. That's Reed. 77 was really in the groove, man. Like, right in the groove, man. Like, right in the groove. We talk about it all the time on here. We don't have a problem if you run the group. But, like, when we're three-quarters of the way around you, like lift and let us have the exit of the corner. And the 77 is the worst one. We probably flipped him off 400 times this year. And he come out on tires because we hit the fence. We had to, like, run long on tires. We had like 50 laps on our tires. And Reed, passed us and Bubba said, that son of a just flipped me off. Man, it's pretty funny. It can't be fun for those guys to have to manage those slow car situations. All I ask, though, is that if they're not making minimum speed, we got too much

online out there, just park them. And even like, we talked about this, I forget what, one of the plate races this year, like, the minimum speed needs to be like common sense, too. Like, where if you could, maybe I'm making minimum speed, but you can see I'm a hazard out there. Like, right, let's make an adjustment. You can see. Daytona. I was way off the pace, way off the pace, like dangerously off the pace, but I was a second to the good on minimum speed.

I'm like, well, this is not safe. Like, we should not be out here. Black flag me, get me off the damn racetrack. Right, right. You know, whatever. Kip's listening. He'll fix it. Yeah.

Kip, black flagging me anytime I'm having a bad night, so I can go home. Please. I mean, that race, I'm texting. I was hoping Bubba had his eye watch out. I'm texting him. If you run one second slower, they will kick us off the track right now. Oh. Oh, all right.

Not literally, Kip. Not just kidding. Denny Hamlin's Xfinity win was disqualified on Saturday because he was too low in the left front and too high on the right rear. Winter Cole Custer said that infraction wasn't the deciding factor in the race. Should drivers lose win for infractions that don't ultimately influence the outcome? Oh, it's my turn. Yes, because it's a rule. I mean, it's pretty black and why.

I mean, you can't go back and forth on this. We've said for years, we don't want guys to get to. qualify. I mean, we want guys to get disqualified because of, you know, it's a black and white rule. And beforehand, they were just taking points away and we'd find out on Tuesday. Now it's cut and dry. You find out 20 minutes after the race is over, half hour after the race is over, and you know who the winner is. I mean, clearly, we don't want people winning that are inside of the rules. You know, my struggle here is when you read that, low in the left front means you got a lot more turn and high in the right rear means you got a lot more down force. But that's not necessarily

how this car was going around the track. It was going around the track slam. But for whatever reason, everything didn't make the height rolls. So my question is, can we roll the height sticks really quickly after the celebration of, oh, I won, I'm doing my burnout. Boom, he rolls a height sticks. Because if they find that there, then we can immediately send second place through the height sticks in him to victory lane.

I just hate, and it's hard, man, NASCAR's in a really tough spot here. It's hard to be efficient with who won the race and who is going to pass tech. And I think as they progress here with this rule, they got to figure out how to manage expectations on both. Yeah, I don't know how Cole can say that really, though, because Cole was right there, had a shot at passing. He was inside of him coming in the chair. Yeah, so that, nobody really knows where exactly the left front is

compared to everyone else. If it's down a little bit lower, I mean, we're talking the littlest bit right here. But if that right rears up, he can get in throttle a little bit earlier because he's got a little more drive off the corner. You know, Denny's a guy that can take a little bit. it and make it worth a bunch. So, uh, and, you know, as Freddie went to said, it's a, it's a roll, man. You got to, these are, these are, these are, this is the box we have to be in. And that's it. The, why not make a show out of it? You know, you go to a lot of dirt races and

they'll roll the guy, the guy wins their race. They roll them up on a scale with a light, green light, you know, about weight, you know, if it's heavy, like make a show out of it. You know, you got a red light of green light, roll through a height stick. Fans are on the red, waiting way, all right, green light. I like that go like, you know, maybe, you know, maybe. Make a show out of it. Make it something for the fans. When you're at a dirt track, you see that, man. Like what he said, I mean, I've been to dirt tracks, like little local dirt tracks,

and you wait for the guy to roll across those scales, and you see that light. And there's anticipation there. Yeah, there's a lot of things up to that, though. I mean, they do the drivers in the car still at that point, you know, after that. They don't roll the car through tech with a driver in the car. Yeah, I mean, you have to make a lot of changes, obviously. I think NASCAR is in the right direction, though. Well, he's already getting out to do an interview on the front stretch to just leave him out.

Well, I'm just saying NASCAR is in the right direction here. We don't have to wait until Tuesday to know who won. You know what I mean? Everything they're doing in this department and this area of what we do for a living is the right direction. It's the right direction. And they're going to keep getting it better. I'm confident in that. Yeah, I'm glad that we know now.

All right. The regular season will conclude this weekend at Indianapolis before moving to Dayton in 2020. If you could pick any track on the schedule to host a regular season finale, where would it be, TJ? Man, I really like the idea. of a short track or a track with multiple grooves. You know, I wouldn't mind being in Darlington, something like that. I think that's a great place. A short track or a place like Darlington, Rockingham, Darlington, something like that.

I don't know we don't go to the rock, but something like that. Yeah, I agree with you completely, man. I'm not a big downforce track fan given everything that we have on the line because we're going to have aggressive restarts and then we're going to get spread out. it's going to be really hard to catch each other and race side by side. Whereas at a Darlington, at a Bristol, out of Martinsville, it's really easy to make those things happen, which is why I think we see what we see next year

with a playoff format and us ending every single round at a high climax racetrack. Can you say climax? I think so in this context. Climax Corner, where was that at? Climax Corner was at Road America. This is a track. I was somewhere I was.

It wasn't Road America. This indie is a track where you're going to. going to see. It was the corner I was watching at Road America. You can't move at Indy. You can't move around. You can't find speed somewhere. Indy's one of those tracks

where most of the time the better cars are going to find the way to the front just because they're faster. There's not much a driver can do himself. He can't move around. He can't move around a whole lot here to find that extra speed. I haven't talked to our engineers

which is kind of, I hate to say this by not having some sort of basis for my thought. But here's what scares me about Indy. At Pocono, we went into that racetrack, and the only turn that is remotely similar to any turn at Indy is a tunnel turn. And those guys ran wide open through the tunnel turn. How long are they going to be able to run wide open at Indy? I don't know. Because wide open at Indy is not going to be a good race. Anywhere wide open is not a good race. Daytona. Other than Daytona, Tala, yes. So it scares me is, and when I say scared, I mean, it scares me because I don't want my guy

blowing a right front going wide open through a freaking one or two or three at Indy either, but are we literally going to see qualifying be out of these top ten guys wide open? I bet, yeah, I bet so. Yeah, I think so. Wow. I bet. I mean, it's hard to argue with Daytona. I think they, I mean, they're moving in right direction, obviously, from Indy to Daytona.

I think that Daytona race is going to be a shish show. And I love it. And that's going to be great for the fans. I think, you know, the true racer fan would want to see a Bristol, Martinsville, because that, you know, you got rooting and gouging and stuff. Yeah. But just for sheer excitement purposes, Daytona is going to be incredible next year. It may be better than the Daytona 500.

Yeah. I mean, you're going to have guys that are just, you know, Daytona 500, you kind of be smart, you ride around. It's for different reasons. Yeah. The 500 is the Daytona 500. Yeah. I'm just talking about the aggression level of all these guys.

It doesn't make or break your season at Daytona. Yeah. You could ride around the back and it's, I'm going to make a run late in this thing. That race, you're going to need stage points. I can tell you right now. Clint Boyer, if this were next year and we're eight points to the good and we're rolling into a plate track, the way his personality works, he would be a freaking mess. Like, Ryan Newman, probably not. Jimmy Johnson, probably not, because Jimmy Johnson's got seven titles.

What does he care if he gets wrecked, right? But you take some of these guys' personality, which is going to create what Freddie said, an oh-sh moment for a lot of people. How good would it be? look at the weather right now. How good would it be? Your guy's opinion on this real quick. If Bristol was this cutoff race, you got multiple grooves, you got the potential for drama with short track, bumping, root, and gouging.

You know, and it's only a few weeks out from when we ran there, and the weather's fine right about this time. I don't think you go wrong with any short track. I don't care if it's Martinsville, Bristol, or whatever. But Martinsville's in the chase already. I know, but I'm just saying a short track, a super speedway. You can take us to Myrtle Beach. Take us to Hickory.

It wouldn't matter. It's not going to matter. It's going to be a good one. Yeah, I agree. Short tracks. Short tracks and road courses. Short, I mean, the road courses produce just as much of excitement as the short tracks lately. That's because you've got to use the break. Yeah, it's amazing. Anywhere you've got to slow down. That's a good race. Breaks or tires? Weird.

All right, off the wall question. The NFL season begins this week. Who will make it to February Super Bowl? Brett, you know any NFL teams? Man, I know a few. I'll tell you who ain't going to make it. The Gamecocks. They are not making it. Hootie Various Rucker tweeted after their game Our season is, football season is officially over

After one game, I agreed with him I tell you who could possibly make it a Super Bowl's Clemson They probably could Cheaters That guy's cheating, dabbo Not the bills Sunshine Man I don't know

I haven't put a whole lot of research into who the best teams are I mean certainly it takes defense to get there And it takes a good quarterback And we know Andrew Luck and the Colts aren't going You know, he bailed out on those guys, which I don't blame him. Man, I'd love to see Tom Brady go back just because it's Tom Brady. Shuck up. Dang.

And if Tom Brady can't go back out of the – If he can't go out of the FACC, I'll take the Chiefs because I had a blast. Those people – that NFL fan base reminds me of a college fan base. They're maniacs. They party their tails off. And, man, I'd love to see – You need to go to a Bill's game. The Panthers go just because of Charlotte.

I'm not a huge Panthers fan. I couldn't tell you – 10 players on the team. Well, you drafted Cam Newton last year. But I did draft Cam Newton, and he better not, his shoulder better be fixed. He's not even playing on it. Wait, we've been in our draft? Scam Newton out of Auburn where he got $250,000 going to play his senior year of college football.

Toonails hurt. He'll be fine. He just got to hand it off McCaffrey. So I'll take the Panthers and the Chiefs. Ah, man, I was going to go with the Chiefs just because I think they've got a lot of, a lot of playmakers, man. So, and I also. They'll put up 50 a game. And I'll also like the Rams as well.

Their defense, they got playmakers on offense, and they got a great defense as well. Yeah. Freddie? I agree. I actually agree with T.J. I think the Rams and the Chiefs are the two best teams. Most exciting. Yeah, definitely most exciting.

But you thought that last year, you think the Rams are going to go, you know, all this exciting offense, and it was the lowest scoring Super Bowl ever probably. Yeah. So it's hard to bet against Tom Brady. They get the, they get like a 12-round buy to the playoffs every year playing. Yeah, they do. The Jets and the Bills. They're in a week conference.

They get like a 16-round buy when the season starts. It's like Clemson and ACC. same thing. They just got a complete week conference. They literally get seven buys a year. They get the six games they play against the division opponents and their buy week. The Jets, the bills, the dolphins. Yeah.

So it's hard to get. They'll end up in the AFC championship game. They got three tough games a year. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm hoping for the, I like the Chiefs. Same thing as Brett, like crazy fan bases. Speaking of retirement, you think Dale Jr.'s done or you think he runs another race?

Oh, man. Don't say I don't know either. I don't really know. I'm asking what do you think. Do you think he does or does it? I think he enjoyed that and wouldn't mind running. I'm just me thinking seeing him, seeing how happy he was, but I can also see him being satisfied with what he's done the last two races. And, you know, the events that led up, like you said, he didn't really need to run that race.

I hope he runs one more. Well, I mean, he didn't need to run that race, but he did. And to hear the crowd, the way the crowd cheered and appreciated him, he's never said this was it, as far as I know. No, no. I said he was done after this one. I don't think he's going to run Darlington again. No, hell no. I don't think, I personally think he'll run maybe one or two more,

maybe one a year, something like that. Until it quits being fun. Yeah, I hope he does. I'm going to say it's Homestead and then see how Martinsville works out with the Xfinity cars and Martinsville be the last one. Yeah, I can see running. I don't think he'll run homestead because there's championship stuff going. Well, it won't be the end there.

Well, next year it would be the beginning. No, it'll be the beginning. Yeah, okay. And he likes to run high. And that's during the Fox season, so it gives him a little lot of time there. Right, that's true. Yeah. By the way, I have to agree with you.

I think the Kansas City Chiefs all the way, but it's not because of Mahomes. I think it's because of the depth they have a good rookie wide receiver and incredible depth on running back, and Andy Reid's a running team. Who you got from the other conference? I don't give a crap. You're not picking the Giants? I'd like to pick the Panthers, but I got a bad feeling about our season. We'll have a competition this year.

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I bought a house in Huntersville, North Carolina, and I struggled to sell it when I bought it like 10 years ago, man. If Offerpad have been around, it's the way I would have went. TJ, offer pad, no matter who you are, if you live in the market where they play, they want to buy your home. Yeah, it's really cool. you don't there's no no realtors involved no other people you basically go to offer pad and within 24 hours you get an offer on your house we've got a lot of those guys that are coming to the racetrack out in

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My refrigerator leaked into my downstairs while I was away at a race. And they came in and they have to tear up all my hardwood floors and they've got to refinish them. We're talking like a three-week process. So when you say the word move right there, it literally makes me want to vomit. To hear that a company would buy my house and move me out, it doesn't get any better than that, man. Offerpad is the way to go.

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All right, Ask the EBC, Brett's favorite part of the show. It is. The best question gets a T-shirt. Oh, wow, yeah. Offer pad, door bumper clear, T-shirt. Can I get a T-shirt? It's just going to be really tight on you. We can't because he only made medium and smaller.

If you cut the neck and sleeves out of it, it might fit. That's what I should have wore today. Yeah. You should have. A body suit. All right. Mike Zevenbergh asks. NASCAR announces a new format for the Southern 500.

You're allowed one set of tires and unlimited fuel stops. Race duration is set to four hours or 500 miles. Who wins the race, aka who is the best tire manager? One set of tires. Who you got? T.J. Jeff Burton. Anybody.

I think they've got to be racing. He was the best of managing tires. I mean, I even looked back at a guy named Ted Musgrave, who wasn't really relevant anywhere we went. but when you got to a Rockingham, Darlington, man, he could really manage his tires. Del Jarrett was good at it. Honestly, man, and I know he's my guy,

but Clint Boyer is really, really good at managing tires. Good pick, TJ. He would be one of the best ones. I got to go with the guys from... If you say Lagano, I'm leaving. I got to go with the guys from, you know, probably about... Right about when Harvick started. Those guys were managing tires then, like Carl, Greg,

Biffle and them guys. Biffle's good at Darlington. They were having to manage. manage tires. You know, the cars would drive good, but they'd also be able to manage your stuff. And it wasn't a, it was just part of what you did back then. I remember when you went, like, go to Atlanta, you watch the guys, you know, guys like that, manage your stuff. And here they are their threats.

I think, I think the obviously guys would be good, like Brad, Joey and Kevin and them guys. I think, I mean, Clint came around at that time too. So I think those guys would be the better ones at him. Yeah. Anywhere you need front-end speed, front-end of the run speed, we're in trouble. We've got to be back-end of the run. I'm going to tell you right now who's winning this race. I'm taking like...

Reed Sorensen. Timmy Hill, Garrett Smithley. Nobody runs longer on sets of tires in these guys in his Xfinity races, Cup races. Yeah, it's a good point. Nobody runs longer. I mean, I spotted for one kid one time. It was a starting park at Michigan. I can't remember what his name was.

But it was a team. They said, we're going to run. until the almost halfway. It's like 120 lap race. We're going to run about 40 lap. We only got one set of tires. We're going to run about 40, 50 laps. That's okay.

Lap 90. Same set of tires. I'm like, this is getting to be unsafe. Like, we need to get this kid off there. Well, it seems like he's all right. I mean, he's in the way. I'm like, but this kid ran almost this whole race on one set of tires. But those are the guys that know how to manage their stuff the best.

Well, that's the thing that we're talking about on here. We don't need a set of tires to be that good. So a great question. You're not winning a T-shirt. Next one. At J-R-G-S-R-1000 asks, how come every track isn't built with the same surface aggregate as Darlington?

So what you guys don't realize about Darlington is the amount of sand that's in that area. So when they did a repave, Darlington did the same thing that every other track had done with a repave, which was high grip, very smooth, but as weather and time and sand got on to that racetrack, I mean, under caution,

These drivers will tell you you can see a rooster tail of sand coming out from the back of these cars. That's what makes Darlington surface special. So can you figure out a way to put sand into the mixture? I would assume some asphalt engineer could do that, but this is just a product of where this track is located geographically. Well, why does Homestead wear out in Daytona doesn't? I don't know if that's because it's so, why, to switch one, Homestead versus what, Daytona? Daytona is finally getting weathered again, though.

It's finally getting gray. You know, Homestead a lot has to do with a progressive banking of it. You know, the way they've actually said when they went in there and redid the banking is when we got all these multi-grieves going on. But they told us finally getting close. You know how it wears. Is there a difference between the stuff they would use in South Carolina compared to what they would use in Kansas? I don't know. I don't know.

It was weird, though, too, because we had a ton of tire fall off at Darlington, but we all kind of fell off at the same rate. It wasn't like if I saved my tires, I could go past two guys at the end of the run. versus used to you'd pass seven or eight at the end of the run you I mean a couple one run there I looked back and we were all spread out and it was getting near the end of a run and I looked back and I saw y'all running like you run like two three tens faster and I saw a lap and I was like oh man I hold this guy off yeah so that you know that's when you know you're just trying to manage the best race that you can so I'm you know I'm telling joey hey this guy's coming big hole behind him he's really fast right now it's not worth messing with the longer we

mess with him the so we're going to borrow stuff up yeah so let's just you know get let him go get back in and race on. Race two hunt asks, we always see what the drivers do during rain delays. What did you all do during the rain delay? And do you have any funny stories of things that have happened during a rain delay? Would you make it to your car?

Yeah, I'll make it to my car. Yeah, I didn't make it. Did you get wet? No, kind of and not really. Did you sit on a grandstands for two hours? I didn't make it down there either. You sit in the bathroom for two hours? You know the little awning they put?

put up behind the race control there. Yeah. You stood there? That's where I stood for the first downpour for a while. Jeez. Yeah. And then I relocated from there to the bathroom. And then that started flooding.

So it was bad. There's nowhere to hide at Darlington, and it rained for two hours. So it rained in the bathroom? Most of the time, yeah. That's the only covered spot. Yeah. Yeah, there's nowhere to hide there. And if you don't get down the stairs early enough, you're kind of going to use of trouble.

We were really intelligent, and then when we got to our car, we thought we were really dumb. Because it was like a, about five, ten-minute walk to the car. So we got to the car. It was me, Brett, and Herm. We got to the car. Then it looked like it was going to go. And now it's like, I don't even know, maybe 20 minutes of green flag. And it's not raining.

And we're like, we need to rain. What do we do now? Do we go back? It's going to take us 10 minutes to get back. They finished driver intro. Yeah. So that's like, you're on the roof with your headset basically on at the end. to drive her intro.

All right, getting ready to put it on. Yeah. But Chicago, remember, we did the same thing, and we can see lightning, and we still went green. So it just, it's a hard thing for us to manage. I mean, we talk about communication all the time. The thing is, we knew the rain was imminent. We just wanted to not do what you did, which was standing out of the rain for two hours

and be stuck in a bathroom with 40 males breathing their breath, and I'm having to smell. Luckily, there's a little more room since Freddie wasn't there. I mean, what do we normally do? It just all depends on where we're at and what the facilities are available. Well, we've had some tracks that are kind enough to make suites available to us. If we have that, we go in there. We play PubG. If we're at a place where we're able to get to our cars really quick, we go there and sit.

And it depends on what part of the race we're at, too, is kind of what our plan is. We don't have a motor home to go to. I could tell you that, like the drivers do. How about funny stories? Anything crazy happen? I got one eventually. Well, New Hampshire one time. We ended up in the suite in the very far-in suite, thanks to our buddies at Sprint back in the day.

And the lady beside of us and the sweet beside of us, for whatever reason, she thought it was Mardi Gras weekend. Oh, uh-huh. That was probably the most entertained I've ever been during a rain to life. Go ahead, Freddie. So when was Daytona? When we raced Daytona, like, when we race at like three in the morning, that was 500? Oh, yeah.

No, the one where they were fixing the fence. You guys won. Yeah. July NBC's debut race. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's raining. It's getting late.

was same thing. Nine, ten o'clock. Yeah. So I was, I was a rouse. So me and Herman were riding together. And we're like, we're here and like, this race is canceled. NASCAR and NBC are just trying to decide when they're going to, is it going to be tomorrow afternoon, tomorrow night, you know, whatever.

So Herman's like, I'm hungry. You hungry? I'm hungry. I'm starving. It's 10 o'clock and I ain't eaten anything since lunch. So, I mean, it's been 10 minutes now. I'm dying. But, uh, so we're like.

this ain't funny. This ain't funny. This is dumb. This is real dumb. I mean, it gets funny. So, Herm's like, let's go to the garlic. Now, if anybody knows what the garlic is at, but that's in New Smyrna Beach.

That's nowhere near the racetrack. You didn't just go to the wing house? That's what everybody does when they bail? A half hour away from the racetrack. But I'm telling you, the race is canceled. Everybody we know is talked to is canceled. They're fighting over what time it's going to be. So it's probably actually, like, when we head out,

it's probably like 9 o'clock. We can get down there. say it closes it like 10 or something. We can get food. So we head down there. We get to the restaurant. I will never ride with you after a rain delay. We order.

We order our food. And they've argued about how long they're going to, what time they're going to start this race for so long that it quit raining. And now they're like, well, shit, we could dry the track. So they start drying the track. So now all of a sudden our buddies are like, hey, they're pretty close. I'm like, what do you mean close? Like, it's rained out, ain't it?

No. No, we're within an hour. I'm like, holy shit. We take our food, leave, haul ass back to the racetrack. I got on the elevator as the National Anthem was playing. Wow. And we walked up there, put our stuff on. I told you it was a dumb story.

Wouldn't know the difference. But yeah, that was as close as I'll ever push it again. Yeah, that was as well. That was as close as I'll ever push it because they'd fire you. Yeah. If you pushed it anymore. How was food? My steak was awesome.

Elliot almost missed. Remember the game Halo that came out, the video game? Yeah. Elliot almost missed driver intros for Daytona 500 because we had an eight-man match going on in his bus. It was four in the front, four in the back. We had the TVs linked together via some Ethernet corridor, whatever it was called back then. And, man, we had like a big-time match going on, and he literally barely made driver introses. Remember that time Will won the Southern 500?

Oh, yeah. We'll miss Wheel. I can't believe we didn't bring that up, man. I know, I know. Will won the Southern 500. All right, man, we're rolling in. a rant. I don't have a rant. Who's winning?

Yeah, who's going to win the shirt? Cajun scrambled eggs. There you choose. Not the first guy. No. Give it to the middle guy. Yep. The J.R. G.S.X.

1000. The aggregate guy? Yeah, I thought that was a great question. That's thinking. I agree. 100%. That's actually putting some thought into it. Yeah.

He wins. All right. That's it. DM Jason. So we have to get your, yeah, we'll follow you and get your info and we'll get you that T-shirt. Yeah. So I don't have a rant, but I have a plea. Oh, crap.

Is it guilty? No, I plead. I want to plead to the public. I want to plead to the public. If you are around Indianapolis this weekend, there's a lot on the line. We don't know what's going to happen. We don't know how this tire's going to be. We don't know how the racing's going to be. It's a completely new package.

The weather is going to be phenomenal. We're talking about in the 70s. If you love NASCAR and you're within three hours of that place, man, come watch this weekend because we need you guys. don't need to keep showing up to this racetrack and it be empty. We need the stance to be full. And I saw one of them backmarker guys yesterday tweet that we need to go regardless. Man, I disagree. We need to go where the fans are going to support us. We need to go where we're going to put on a good show. Yes, this track has a lot of history. But we got to have you guys there to make the atmosphere

what it was at Darlington. Darlington, the drivers had fun. They put on a great show. Bristol, same thing. The more people that show up, the more amped up we get. You guys come watch this weekend. And this package might, who knows what it's going to do there? It could be a pretty good show. We could be able to get some good runs on the straightaway. And hey, what do you think about this? We've seen big wrecks there, off a four-on restarts, and that was without this crazy package.

What do you think about this? What about like a, at the mile and a half some bigger, a button, like Formula One has, what do they call it, the DRS? Yeah, or D.F. Where it trims the wing out or whatever. Yeah, imagine the driver be able to push a button in the straightaway. Blow up the car in front of it.

Yeah, well, and drop-up. Hit him with a show. Yeah, Red Turtle show comes out. Imagine being on to lay the spoiler down for the straightaway. Yeah. Imagine the role, I mean, imagine being able to do that. Like, when's this starting 401, like four or five laps into the race? It starts a couple laps in and you've got to be within a second of the guy.

Yeah, you got to be within a second of the guy. Yeah. Or there's a limit. No, it works the entire. As long as you're within a second, it works the whole race. Imagine that. The indie cars have like a push-to-pass where it's 100% starts at 100% You use it as needed, but it'll run out if you wear it out

Yeah, I mean, I think we would all end up just doing the same thing at that point At the end of the race, Kyle Busch is going to have his saved up to run the last three, four laps With his push-to-pass down, but imagine being on lay the spoiler back on the straightaway Yeah Push a button down the straightaway let it All-slick remember that video game we had old slick RC Pro-Am What was that one, iron

The off-road one Where you had the nitro button When he went to the arcade You got to the coin You spun the wheel Yeah I've always wanted to have On my streetcar

The ability to throw a bunch of nails Out of the back Out of my license plate When somebody gets too close to me I'm like What does it just mean The license plate in the window You want to drive me nuts

Because it might scratch my car When I throw the nails out Just throw them backwards Yeah Throw them out the left side Further, they get flatten all their tires. Merge over a lane, throw them into the night next to you. I just want a front bumper.

Just, pow, damn straight. Just hook somebody. You got my old expedition. You can knock the hell out of people on that thing. Yeah. It's already been done. All right, DBC Picks. Who are you going with Timmy Hill and who else this week?

DJ, we're out of picks, man. You guys got nobody left. This is it. I'll take Bubba. You can't. You can't. You already used him. Oh, I did.

We talked about this before the show started. I don't know why I let their list. Well, I can't pick Ty. I'm still in red. He's going to retire. Why can't you pick him? Be a good pick at Indy, I think. I mean, he doesn't.

Man, who the hell are you going to pick, Great. Looking at your guys, it's the best pick there. By the way, set the stage, Brett is leading 14 to 10 over T.J. So it's either going to be a three-point lead or a five-point lead going into 10 races. Ryan Preece.

That's the best pick you had available. My best pick is hands down, my guy who texts me Sunday. I'm sorry Monday to see if we were out on the lake somewhere. Bubba Wallace. We were out. He said, where's bread out? I said, I don't know.

He's probably texting. He texted me. He's going to the boat or the pool. I went to the pool, man. I was tired. About 4.30 a. m. stuff was.

Yeah, that's a little late. So he calls me. Megan wakes me up. It's like 10 o'clock, 10.30. She says, Bubba wants to know you want to go on the boat. And I'm like, no, no, don't talk to me. Like, 20 minutes later, I'm like, all right, call him, see what he wants to do. Yeah.

Yeah. I got in the bed at five. And my daughter must have thought we had school the next day. And I was sleeping in her bed. And at 7 a.m., her alarm went off. And I literally was like, what is that noise? And I've never heard it. She has one of those Alexa things, right?

And I was like, well. And I was like, man, she ain't even in this freaking room. She knows she don't have school. And now I'm up. Like, I couldn't go back to bed. It was Monday was up. I'm all day. I could even like that.

I got home. I still couldn't go to bed right away. Like, I still, I'm up like an hour. Takes a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Well, you guys, Indie's fun, man. St. Elmo's shrimp cocktail is a must-have. A lot of good fun places. Downtown Indies is probably one of the best downtowns we go to. The place we always end up at with karaoke. That's a fun place to go. Beaver. Wild Beaver.

Yeah, the Wild Beaver. You can't say Beaver. It's got to be Wild Beaver. The Wild Beaver. Herm will be at a cigar lounge. Nicky Blains. Nicky Blaine's Cigley Lounge. It's a tall blonde name Renee that works of Stuart Hodders Racing,

and she loves to sing karaoke. She's horrible. But please, dear God, if y'all see her in the Wild Beaver singing and you're going to see her if you go. You clap for her and tell her how great she is. And she sings like Patsy Klein. And then she'll come back and do like Bruno Mars. And it's like maybe if you would just nail down one genre, Renee.

Does Campbell still work here? Mike Campbell? Yeah, he's upstairs. Hey, Mike, you go there. You will see Mike Campbell sing. Doing Eminem. He is the second coming of Eminem. He had read up there beatboxing with him one year.

Yeah. That was fun. I want to see again the last time I went with Herman and him to that cigar lounge. Earl with his very deep radio voice. Would read the cigar menu. Hints of cinnamon. We went on time. We all get these cigars.

We all, nobody knows what that. None of us, there's like eight of us. And nobody is a cigar connoisseur by any means. Except for Tapp. So yeah, Tab and Herm like know what the hell they're talking about. So I look at the menu. I'm like, just order me whatever Herm has. So the owner orders it's like extravagant cigar.

And it comes out and it's literally three inches long. It was terrible. And I'm like, what is that? How the hell did you order? Everybody's got these Churchill, like, eight-inch long cigars, and here's Dillner's little, like, something like my wife would smoke or something. Yeah. There ain't nothing that stinks worse than a cigar.

Oh, I love it. And there ain't nothing that looks dumb or sticking out of a man's mouth and an eight-inch brown thing. That looks horrible. Like, it's got smoke rolling off of it. Y'all are biting all the end of it. Remember we're having that ash competition? I'll never forget. You sit in there having an ash competition.

See, listen to how stupid this sounds. Y'all are licking these things. things and swirl them around. Hey, let me give you all. Just go to the karaoke bar. Yeah. We had an ash competition. We were trying to get the ashes as long as we could before they fall out.

That sounds awesome. Oh, man. Yeah. I don't remember most of it. All right. Thanks for joining us. I'm out. Thanks for listening, guys.

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