Door Bumper Clear - 161 - Put On A Show

Episode Date: February 3, 2020

Brett Griffin got a job, T.J. Majors shaved his neck, Freddie Kraft’s hungover, Casey Boat’s mad at TJ, and Jason Schultz now works full-time. Door Bumper Clear returns for season five and picks up right where they left off. Freddie joins the gang as they recap their off-seasons that included ski trips, drunk FaceTimes and more. Then, they react to major NASCAR news including Jimmie Johnson’s final full-time year, Cole Pearn’s departure, aero package changes, stage length adjustments, new crew chiefs, the Truck Series playoff expansion and more. It’s now onto Speedweeks at Daytona as they preview drafting strategies, relive their first Daytona 500s as spotters and prepare to start a new season. Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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And Doorbooker Clear is back for season five. Today we'll get to hear all about T.J. Brett and Freddie's off seasons. We'll also discuss major news from over the winter, debate all the changes for the 2020 season, and get ready for Speed Weeks at Daytona. I know you guys have been waiting to hear this all winter long. Let's kick off a new season of DBC. I'm T.J. Majors. This is Brent Griffin. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Do what you got here.

New leader. I'll watch out for this guy. White flag. It's been a long. Hello. Clear. Bring home. Three light.

Coming to the line. Door. Bumper. Clear. Woo! Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors. Spot of the 22 Cup car.

And it's been a long time, but beside me. Brett Griffin, spotter for Clint Boyer and Clint Boyer. Clint Boyer. I mean, that was like the news of the year, offseason. Everybody's asking who the hell you were finally spotting for. Well, I finally got a job. I got asked on eye racing. Did Brett find a job yet?

Somebody asked me at Chili Bowl. I don't have a paycheck yet, but I have a job. I got asked. I lost $1,000 of that damn game last night, and I don't have a paycheck. My bank account is quickly dwindling. Well, we're lucky you still have a job. Hey, everyone. I'm Casey Boats, a marketing professional, as people like to call me, in NASCAR.

And we also have our amazing producer. What's up? Jason Schultz here. I'm back. Jason, you're on the payroll. Jason's back full time. Did you hear his voice? You can tell us in the payroll. What's up? He's like forced to do it.

Jason, let's go over this job thing. Full time. Brand new college graduate. Straight out of college. You interned all over the place. Did a great job interning here. You pimped yourself out. Yes.

You're here. Are you on salary or are you on hourly? Salary. Oh, wow. Honestly, you should have gone for hourly. because you get way more. What an idiot. Who did that?

You're desperate for a job. You want to be in racing. They had you by the balls and they put you on salary? It got me my Lambo I posted about on Saturday, so we're good. Jason, I hope you really negotiated with Mike. Be like, I work so hard for this, I better get a good salary. I can't believe he's on salary. You said because I worked with this crew that I had to get extra bonuses.

More days off than you should. Exactly. Hard to negotiate with Mike because most time you can't get a hold of him. Freddie Crash in the house. I'm sorry. Freddie, I forgot about you. I know I started to you and then you coming off. You love so much weight on keto the last two weeks. I couldn't even see you there. All right. Well, I have a bone to pick with you. Super dehydrated right now. Me. You want to start this already? I was going to tell you how pretty you look today, but forget that. You're such a liar. I get out of the car. I'm holding my laptop. I'm holding coffee. I'm holding Dunkin' Donuts. I can barely hold anything. And the first thing you say is, what? No Chick-fil-A. I said that's not Chick-fil-A because you said something about Chick-fil-A. Well, do you want to sit in that line? I thought we were getting Chick-fil-A.

Two Bones to pick now. When did I ever say that? And then he didn't even help me. I'm, like, carrying everything. You walked off. She walked off. I'm just so proud of T.J., because he has no neck hair for the first time ever. I know.

I got a haircut. It'll be July, Dayton or Indy before I get my hair cut again. By the time we get to Dayton on Friday, he'll look like Chewbac on the back of his neck again. There's only one person that grows hair more than me, and I think that's Tony. Yeah, you and Tony are hairy neck people. Although I'm not. Yeah, I'm not. Stewart.

Oh. I'm not like a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Like, gorilla. A gorilla? Like, I don't, like... How much did your first job pay you out of college? Oh, I negotiated. They offered me, like, 34, 35.

To live in Chicago. Oh. Yeah. My mom was 18,000. Holy cow. Not enough, apparently. I worked at a welding shop, made like $8,000 a year. But I lived at home.

I mean, I went in debt with that salary. So eight grand a year. That's like $2 an hour. My first pay stuff from when I lived in North Carolina from MB2 Motorsports was $12,000. For the year? For the year. Yeah, when I did my tax. I hope you started in December. No, I did not. I did not. So that was a, but I was part-time.

See, that's where they had Jason by the balls and then they just gave him a salary. They could have paid him peanuts. You should have done hourly, honestly. They had Jason because no matter what they said to Jason, he was going to accept it. No matter what. Jason, do you negotiate it all? Or you just say yes. Did you, like, take the first offer and be like, no.

Yeah, you should have. I got a text message that said I had a job and I was. So you got hired over text message. Guess what that means? When you get fired, you're going to get fired over text message. Did you just send back a thumbs up when they said, you got a job? Thumbs up, Oji, we're good to go. See you.

See you Monday. So is that like. Well, Mike won't call anybody back, so he has to text you. He sucks at texting too. He calls me back. I don't know about you guys. I don't have an issue with it. He's great.

I get a phone call from Mike every once in a while, and it's always like when the kid's screaming or something like that. That's why he doesn't call you then. Probably. Probably. Let's give TJ a shout out. What? What? What?

For what? For us getting to do this show. We tried to plan a meeting to everybody listening. And TJ, it's easier to get a meeting with Donald Trump than it is with TJ majors. It took us a solid week to get a time that TJ could meet. Just for our pre-requerec. meeting of like brainstorming, it took at least a week and a half. Yeah.

Well, most of it's Casey's fault because she's the one that's busy. I'm going to say right now. Casey is pretty high up of my shit list right now just for the fact that like we had this deal set for like 1130, 12 o'clock last week. And Casey cards back. You know, I can do 930 if that works for everybody else. And I'm like, because TJ, we knew you still be out. We knew you got mad. T.J was the one who said that we need to start recording at 930 every week.

And I said, well, I have a job. I'm really sorry, but can we do this at lunchtime? No, somebody said 930. No, because you have like... Do you not remember the meeting? Yes. They said the earlier, the better to get it out for the drive home and stuff. I know, but then...

Sorry. But then he said it was fine, because I have a job. For this week. This is your job. Well, I should have picked 11 then. I'm sorry. I'm exhausted. Next Super Bowl Monday, we're doing noon.

Well, whose bright idea was it to have a meeting or record us after school? I really wish it was video here today. I miss Freddy's party because I was sick last night. I'm really glad today. Yeah, well, you sound great. You stopped coughing in the mic. Sorry. should be happy.

We sound the same except I'm hung over and you're sick. Do you want to talk about Megan? No. Let's not. I love Megan. She was in a fetal position this morning. She was next to the toilet. She was on the struggle bus this morning when I left.

She's going to mess work. She's going to get fired. Barkthal is at my house? He left, actually. He got it. He stayed over. He gets up early. Next thing, my brother, oh, yeah.

I don't know what time was. There's no way you would get up that early after drinking all night. He's like 95 years old. He's probably. But that's kind of good. I heard John, I don't know what was going on my house somewhere. John was dragging garbage cans out at like 6.30. Megan was...

John definitely didn't go to bed. I don't know what happened. Did Doug's brother come, Joey? Joey was there. Yeah, he peep? Nope. No. Your parties don't sound fun.

It's like a fraternity party. It does. So Bark doll shows that everybody, you know, normal party. What can I bring? What can I bring? I'm like, whatever you want. I don't care. Beer, whatever.

Bring that positive attitude. Bark doll walks in with a 12 pack of beer and three packages of ramen noodles. I'm like, what the hell is this? I told you. He's like, I figured out he was coming to a frat party. I'll bring ramen noodles. So Steve Barkdaw, his dad, Phil Barkton, raced. And Phil was not a very good racer.

But Bartol's been in the industry forever. It was general manager with Andy Petrie, did a lot of stuff with James Finch, and just announced that he's spotting for Daniel Sores in the Cup series this year. So Bartol, welcome back to the roof, buddy. They call him Captain Positive. He was nicknamed of that from Kirk. There's another adjective in there, I believe. Yeah, there's a B.

Yeah. Because of Kurt Busch. Because of Kurt, because whenever Kurt would get real mad, Steve would just be there to all cheery. And he's a very positive individual. He is a positive guy. He's probably the nicest guy. He is. If you were to call Steve, middle of the night, he would come get you.

No matter where he is. Steve, I'm broke down. Where are he at? Well, I'm in Daytona. I'm leaving Nashville right now. Yeah, I'll be there in a minute. Yeah, he's a great guy, though. Really good guy.

What did y'all in? Got fat. Got fat. You already were fat. Fatter. I got fat. I think I gained 20 pounds. I swear to God, I gained 20 pounds.

I lost 15 pounds for the end of the season. I thought you looked good today. Well, no, it was a haircut. I feel like I've gained a back. He was walking out. I'm like, man, you lose weight. He's like, no, I gained weight. I'm like, well, you must have a good looking Saturday or something because I don't know what that.

Once Thanksgiving comes, then you just can't not eat at Thanksgiving. You get a free Planet Fitness membership because of Joey? I see a Planet Fitness shirt. Maybe I've been working out. He's got a PSA with him, guys. Maybe. Yeah. Might have some sort of membership there.

Yeah. Yeah. I work out. Yeah. I work out. Casey, what do you do? I think it's in Moresville. Oh.

Other than post wedding pictures. I posted one for my anniversary. Listen, did you know? And you know how many people tagged you in it? Honestly. You know her second boyfriend got married yesterday. No, that's Chad's husband got married. Oh, bromance.

Remember I saw them at lunch together and stuff? Yeah, I was the maid of honor. Where was the wedding? Where was the wedding? Her matron of honor and. Of course she went. Where was the wedding. man. Elkin, North Carolina.

Where's that at? Mountains? Like an hour away. Yeah. It's not necessarily in the mountains, but it's higher elevation. There's a dirt track there, I think. Yeah. French? I don't remember you one it is. I can't tell you the name of it, but. That's cool. Yeah, it was nice.

Congrats to Christopher Bell. Misery loves company. And Morgan. Well, wait to the club. That guy for not waited at the last minute. Like, just wait until the last off day you got. Yeah. We want to go on a honeymoon. Well, no.

They were going to do it the weekend before, but that's our anniversary. So they said we would have that weekend. they would have that weekend. It was like a decision made. That's cute. And the weekend after is like right after Chili Bowl. Like for him, that's a big deal. Did they sign the pitcher rights over to you so you could post pictures of their wedding

all year too? I think Freddie racing more this one or the many human I know. Freddie just kept racing. I didn't do that much racing really. Just same. I mean, I ran for like three weeks after Homestead. Yeah, that's a lot. Well, that's more than you.

Yeah. I didn't go, her one racing this week. I might race for a couple weeks after the years over, but I'm damn sure not going to start early. Where'd you go race to do? I know you did a snowball.

I did snowball. I did a turkey derby in Jersey. Still didn't go the chili bowl. Nope. I'm never going back to.

I'm not going back to the chili ball. I can't do it. I put on such a damn display the last time I went that I don't think I'm welcome back. Although the next year, so me and Brett sat together

and the next year, it was Mike Herman's seats and the next year Herm texts me. He's like, there is a lot of disappointed people up in our section right now because you and Brett

aren't here this year. We were entertaining. True. We were entertaining. So what else do you? You did three races or four? Yeah, just those three races. Do they take spotters to them,

them indoor midget races or whatever they do? No. What are those? Like the Skiu midgets? Yeah. Yeah. Poor Skip. He had a bad week. He did.

I saw his car. He had a misqualifying because it was his brother-in-law's wedding, and then he started last and got wrecked on, like, lap two. So he was in Texas Friday night, flew all the way to Jersey, Saturday and then wrecked two laps into the feature. That's good. Poor guy. What did you do, Brett?

Have you been home yet? I went, I worked my tail off. I went hunting. I did go to ski. I went skiing in Breckenridge and I went skiing in Park City. They were both phenomenal. Love to ski. These idiots FaceTime me from this ski trip.

And I don't know what the hell happened. I get a FaceTime and it's Clinton. I'm like, oh, Jesus. I know where they are. And I opened the phone up and everybody was, what was that movie? Remember this? Madagascar or something? You guys, they were all cartoon characters. And they're yelling to me. They're like, turn that off. I'm like, I didn't do it.

I forgot about that. And every time they handed the phone up to somebody else, they were a different cartoon character. I was crying laughing. And they were yelling at me, turn that off. I'm like, it ain't me. Was it Clint the whole time? No, is Clint you, Laura? I remember who was doing the filter thing?

Oh, I don't know. It had to be you guys. We're at this place called High West Distillery in Park City. Super fun place. One of the most fun places I've been in Ski Town. And Clint, when he drinks a lot, he literally face-times everybody he knows. He goes through his entire phone. This went on for hours.

These are the things you're supposed to record. Hours and hours and hours. He's sitting there FaceTiming people. And it's exhausting. And everybody that he's FaceTiming knows he's not sober. So, of course, they're going to answer the phone. I mean, it's Jimmy Johnson. It's Blake Shelton.

It's everybody you can think of that's in his phone gets called. It's a fact. Yeah. Everybody. Jeff Burton. We call Kyle Petty answered. We talked to Kyle. Betty. I mean, we literally went through his entire phone, FaceTime to everybody. But that's

anyway, a great winner. I went by super fast. Here we go. Daytona. Already? It's here. Somebody asked me how I'm ready to go. I'm like, you're damn right. I'm ready to go. Get me the hell out of my house. My wife's going to kill me. I got to get out. I could wait a few more months. Can we start it a little bit later? I would love to run the Daytona 500 and then take two weeks off. I really wish we could Daytona 500 and take a week off solely for the winner to celebrate, do a media tour. Like that's, I mean, it's the biggest race of the year for us, you know. So I'd love to see us to have a chance to really celebrate it because I'm telling you what, we leave Daytona.

Monday, you can kind of celebrate it. Man, after that, you're right in the work mode. And this year we're going straight to the West Coast. I think Vegas is first. So, man, it's the grind is here. The grind is real. Yeah, they won't hear me say this a lot. but that's a good idea to take that weekend.

First time of everything. I mean, it is like you get home late Sunday night, man. Like, even winning that race, we won a rain. We won one that got lengthened out by rain, too. So we were there until, I mean, I literally went to the hotel, slept for 30 minutes. I didn't think I slept. I took a shower and went back to Daytona, USA.

For the breakfast. Yeah, and I mean, you get home Monday afternoon, winner, you know, Dale Jr. flew to New York or whatever. And, I mean, if you're going, you got three days. And that's the Daytona 500. Like Super Bowl right now, just finished, these guys have a good long break. They get, okay, you're Super Bowl champions. I mean, I get it you're the champion over the whole year. But I mean, this is our Super Bowl. It'd be nice to really celebrate that whoever does win it because it's a special event. I think it also, like, Daytona is like two weeks. I mean, you're there straight. So I look at

the schedule now. And I don't know. How long you've been traveling? Well, since a long time. A long time? 2000. 2017. 11? That's not a long time.

That's not a long time. That's not really long. That's eight years. Yeah. Feels like it. We've probably got it. He's got over a double that. Okay.

Well, you guys are quite a bit older than me. Oh, now we got old. Damn. I am. I'm 44. I hope you're talking to them. Not me. I'm 44.

My body is disintegrating rapidly. Wow. 37 going on 64. People tell you at 40, like you lose your vision or whatever with having to put the, you know, paper two miles from your nose to be able to read it. You start here, then you're like, and I was fine at 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, I just went to, like overnight. What could you jump off that cliff and broke your ass? I know. I don't understand because you take such good care of yourself how this could possibly happen.

I don't know either. When we first started this show, you were running. I still can't run. Well, then you hurt your knee, you hurt your knee, you hurt your ass, you hurt a lot of things in the right now. My shoulder surgery. See? And now I got a bone that's deteriorating in my spotting finger. How does that even happen?

So I wear this wrist thing. Well, this morning I took it off and my hand stunk. So I got to wash that thing. I guess I was sweating in it. It smelled like vinegar. You're supposed to wash that on the cage. Some people say vinegar where I live, but it's vinegar. Wow.

Anyway, Casey. You ever drank vinegar? No, nobody drinks vinegar for fun. Yeah, you're supposed to. It's good for you. Cider vinegar one time. Apple cider, yeah, I did drink that. It's hot. It's supposed to be really good for your... Like, people take it every day, like once a day and it's supposed to be good for your...

You know what's disgusting? What's that stuff? Your immune system. They tell you that helps you keep your body healthy? Elderberry? Yes. Oh, my God. It's so disgusting.

Oh, don't tell me that. It's so disgusting. I need something to, like, stop getting sick all the time. Wait at his house. The answer is. not kids. Whatever, whatever it will stop getting people sick, drop a case of it off of Brett's house, because there is not a day that goes by where somebody isn't sick over there.

It's hard when you have kids because, like, this kid gets it, and then, oh, this kid gets better, and a day later, this kid gets it, and it just cycles like the entire time. So this morning, we're leaving for school, and I always get up and put normal clothes on to go to school, even though all I'm doing is running the kids of school. Define normal clothes? Today, I've seen somebody to wear. So today, I was like, man, I'm just going to run a boat to school.

And so I left on my pajama pants. And as soon as we get in the truck, we're a mile down the road, but he goes, Dad, I got to poop. And I was like, oh, I'm going to have to go in and look like this. Like, I looked straight up Walmart going in to take him in the bakery to poop. If anybody else has ever done that, y'all can relate. But my mom always said, make sure when you leave home, you wear a clean underwear. Because if you get in a crash and, you know, they have to help you.

They're going to find you in dirty draws. Well, I wasn't in dirty draws this morning. I was in clean underwear, but I was in my full-blown, straight-up, Walmart, pajama bottom. Okay, we need, I don't know how we got on this topic. We need to start spot-on, spot-off. Wait, I want to ask you, like, Speed Weeks used to be two straight weeks in Daytona. Yeah. Not to mention when we used to do the test.

Straight, we didn't leave. Yeah, and we used to do the test. It wasn't an option to leave. No. Like, you were there, and the only, a lot of times, only, I came home between it a lot of times because Del Jr. did. And before that, you were there. Like, you did not leave. You packed this huge bag, and you were there.

But now, I mean, we're there for, I mean... Three days. Come home. Go back. Four days. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Come home, go back. I mean, that's a lot better than what it used to be.

Speak for yourselves. I'm racing all damn week. Make that money. I need to borrow some money, by the way. I get right on that. Pat a paycheck. I just got a text. I said my wife will trust you with anything, so I just give you all the money.

Okay, good. I need to borrow like $2,000. Did she drop her phone in the toilet? No, I think she's still drunk. I'll write you a post-dated check to pay you back. Speaking of drunk, I've got a Clint Boyer update. His wife posted a picture of him in the car with his hat over his face. I can't imagine why.

I don't know. I wonder what happened. Hey, well, I mean, his team did win the Super Bowl, so that's kind of cool. Yeah, that's awesome. Do you want to FaceTime him, Brett? That's their first one, right? He's got his hat over his face. Thank God it's over.

Oh, literally, he looks like death. Bless his heart. Poor guy. Oh, my God. Hey, he'll get it together. He wants to win the Daytona 500 as bad as I do. He'll be fine in 10 days. I hope so.

Let's kick it. Let's do this. Spot on, spot off. He's spot off. Spot on you like it. Spot off, you don't like it. And you say one either way. First spot on spot off topic.

Jimmy Johnson announces 2020 as his final full-time year. Spot on, spot off, TJ. I mean, spot on for Jimmy. He's picking when he wants to go out again. another driver that's choosing his own terms. There's nothing this guy hasn't accomplished. So no matter what happens this year, whether he wins a championship or doesn't win a race or wins 15 races, I think Jimmy Johnson's had a solid career.

Oh, you think? I'm looking forward to – He's not bad. I think he's going to be all right. I'm looking forward to seeing, you know, racing Jimmy this year and seeing him at the track because he is a happy guy. I mean, he's always positive, always got this – I don't know, he's a good guy. He's a good dude.

Yeah. I mean, spot off, obviously, for the fans. We're losing probably the greatest driver of our generation right here. I don't think people understand what he's going to accomplish. I mean, it's incredible. Spot on for the fact that, like, I feel like we're going to get to see him run some other stuff. You know, he's made comments about maybe a Chili Bowl, you know, whatever races. So I think it'll be cool to see him bounce around to different genres of racing and stuff.

83 wins, seven championships. I mean, this guy is arguably the best race car driver, the best stock car driver in the Cup series to ever drive. And I say that because he won championships and a lot of different cars with packages, rules packages, and he won championships in a lot of different formats. I mean, they literally, in my mind, almost started the chase and changed the chase to try to get him to stop winning these titles. And he kept winning them anyway. What do you win five in a row? Unbelievable.

I don't think you ever see that happen again. And he did it against guys that we know are super talented. I mean, you go back to the Jeff Gordon era. You look at Kyle Bush now. you look at the young guys that have come in. I mean, he's the man. And when you look at how nice of a guy he is and great of a guy he is, man, it just makes it all the better.

I'm spot off again, though, just because, I mean, all the guys that I grew up here with, they're all leaving, man, and it's a little bit humbling, a little bit, you know, it pisses me off because I hate to see all those guys that, you know, built the sport up in my era, like Freddie said, leave. And we can't afford to keep letting big, big, big names leave without these young guys getting here and making big names for themselves.

So you look at Hendrick, they've got a big void to fill right here. I mean, Jimmy's the veteran driver over there. He's obviously a leader, brings a lot to the table. And when you look after him, man, it's Alex Bowman, it's William Byron, and it's Chase Elliott. Chase Elliott is a huge name to the sport. But it'll be interesting to see. And people, you know, and I'm one of these people,

you don't really want to hear all year who's going to take Jimmy Johnson's spot, but you can't help but wonder, and you can't help. but say it's going to be one of the biggest announcements of the year when they finally figure that out. Any rumors? I don't know. I've been disconnected. I don't think you'll hear anything on that until the second half.

It's going to be all about Jimmy. You know what I mean? Like he's going to be going to these places for the last time. And it's, you know, but he's right. I mean, when it does happen, it's going to be big. I mean, you have to realize that Hendrick knew that William Byron was going to get into one of his cup cars. Hendrick knew that Chase Elliott was going to get in one of his cup cars.

He brought them through Junior Motorsports for that reason. There's not nobody in here right now that's tabbed to be that next Hendrick guy. So he's going to have to go steal somebody. He stole Jeff Gordon away from Bill Davis back in the day. And it ended up—oh, sorry, working out pretty well for him. So, man, we'll see. Another tough one. Cole Pern leaves NASCAR, spot on, spot off.

Brett. To TJ's point about Jimmy leaving on his own terms, great, great for these guys. Colpurn left on his own terms. Big deal. I mean, we've said on this show many, many times that this sport retires from you. You usually don't get to retire from it. It usually looks at you in the mirror one day and says, bye-bye, you're not welcome here anymore. So to see Colpern walk away from this thing on his own terms, I'm spot on.

He went to run a ski resort. I was told somewhere in Canada. A couple of things around this, though. You know, I think Cole Pern came up in a really good time where crew chiefs made a lot of money. I think Jimmy Johnson came up in a really good time where drivers made a pile of money. These new guys that are coming in, their contracts are literally a tenth of what some of these guys were making. So when you look at, you know, Clint Boyer, he's in his 40s, Kevin Harvick's in his 40s, Jimmy Johnson's in his 40s, those guys have made a boat load of money. Now, I don't know how much they kept, but I know they made a lot.

these young guys aren't making it that fast. So when they get to be 40, I don't know that they're going to really be jumping up and down wanting to go do something new. So be curious to see what happens there. I will say this, though, Jazzy, guy named Jeff Curtis, he was with Cole Pern when they were together out in Colorado racing.

When Cole came back east, Jazzy ended up going to Ganassie. And I feel like he elevated their program last year. You know, that one car ran really well. Obviously, Larson ran well at times. But Jazzy's now gone back to Joe Gibbs Racing and to that 19 car. and I think he and Cole worked well together,

but I think when you look at what knowledge Cole probably had, Jazzy certainly knew what some of that stuff was, so I think I don't see that car missing a beat. Yeah, I mean, spot on for Cole for Cole deciding what he wants to do. I remember reading his message saying he wanted to go be a family man. And I mean, there's having kids myself, you know, it'd be there's not, that's the best thing he could do is wake up one day and say, I don't need to do this.

I'm going to spend time with my family and go do something where I'm home on the weekends. I mean, that'd be, you know, it's great for him. I don't think you take a guy like him away from that car and don't see some sort of, you don't replace coal power in that easily. That car's ran for a championship. How many years in row, three, two or three in a row? Yeah. Final four.

Some of these guys, and that was the guy that clicked with Martin. That's the guy that, you know, they started at Furniture Row out there. once he took over out there they you know they started getting they got the alliance and and that car took off so i don't think you um i don't think you replace a guy like cole that easily without having some learning um you know everybody does things a little different everything everybody everybody thinks they know more than more than the other guy at that at that position so um i think it's going to be hard to replace him but it's just going to be does does martin blend with the next guy that well, you know, does that guy make Martin comfortable, you know, there's just a lot of

things to do there. And, you know, I don't know what, was he, was the engineer? Was he an engineer? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of depth that Joe Gibbs. Cole was an engineer, I think, before for Martin as well. But you never know until you put that guy in that seat and let him start calling races. You just never know. Hey, look at us. I mean, we were at this point last year saying how great Kevin Mandering was going to be for Jimmy Johnson. And I had the privilege of working with with Kevin. Love a guy to death, did an amazing job here at Junior Motorsports. Very intelligent guy. But for whatever reason, it didn't work. It didn't work. And before Jimmy was even out of the chase, they made a change. Jimmy ended up not even making the chase. I would have stayed the course

to see if he made the chase. But that just tells you, sometimes the personality's not there, or the decision making is not there, or the leadership is not there, or the synergy is not there. There's so many things that go, you know, people have to understand. We travel together 40 weekends a year. And there's eight or ten of us on a team that leave on Thursday. and come home on Sunday, and we're together all weekend. And if it's not working, man, it's miserable. You know? Freddie?

Yeah. I mean, spot off. I think we see this across almost all sports now. Like, guys are making more money, like you said, and that gives them the ability to get out. Like, we just saw Luke Kekley down here. Like, top of his game probably, you know, a couple concussions. But these guys are just making enough money where they can say, you know what? I'd rather be with my family, go home and do this.

So, I mean, props to him for making that decision. I mean, there's been discussions like he's the next, you know, Chad Canals, Ray Everham. You know what I mean? He's the next guy coming up. This guy's going to rattle off championship one after another, and he just goes out on top of his game. So props to him for going out on his own terms.

I mean, I have kids, too, and my favorite thing in my life currently is to go watch Bodey play sports. Me too. Thankfully, Uncle Freddie, too. But every time they throw a ball out, that kid's going to be out there playing. I mean, plays football, plays baseball, plays basketball.

I'm fortunate enough that I get to coach him in basketball. But, man, I totally get it. Totally get it. spot on spot off NASCAR changes Aero Package for short tracks and road courses How about Freddie?

As a fan, I'm spot on. Obviously, this should improve the racing, I would hope. Maybe as a team owner, I'm pretty spot off for the fact that, you know, they told these guys in the off season, we're not making any new parts this year, you're locked in, here's what you got, you got inventory, everything, oh, now we're going to change

the package, so now you've got to build all kind of new shit. Like so, but I think racing-wise, it's going to improve the racing. It's just kind of this, this is such a strange year where we don't know, like, it's kind of like a lame duck here. I've seen somebody sweet. So you don't really know what's going on, but, you know, from the owner's standpoint, I can see where they might be a little upset. They've got to make a bunch of new parts that we're going to throw away in November.

Jason, do you know what the exact changes were again? It's a spoiler. Spoiler, splitter. Just taking down force away, basically. Yeah. I mean, you know, I get it. I'm spot on for it because we needed to make it a little bit better. And these changes they made aren't big, like,

we don't have to change the ducks in the front of the car, things like that. Those are pretty significant things when we had to change them ducks and stuff like that. But, you know, just cut the spoiler off. You know, just leave the spoiler off, and we don't even need one. It sounds like it's a pretty big overhaul on the front end of the race car, from what I understand. I don't know.

I mean, just changing a splitter on the front, I think. There's a lot of stuff that, like, I don't know. That's the only reason. I was just at the shop for the first time in 10 years last week, and they were dead set against it pretty much just for the fact that. The work. And the money.

And the money you've got to spend that it's almost a waste you want to say. I wrote an article for The Athletic, and it was a wish list around Christmas, and this was my number one thing, because our short track dynamic and our road course dynamic sucked in 2019. And we can't have places like Bristol, Dover, Richmond, Phoenix, Sonoma, Watkins Glen, we can't have those places where you literally can't pass because of the package and because of the amount of on throttle time. I have said on this show since day one, what creates passing is these guys being out of the gas and who can get in the corner of the best, who can get their car to turn and who can get back to the gas the fastest. That creates passing.

This package should do that. We're going to see a lot of all throttle time. Now I'd like to lean on my good buddies at Goodyear and say, hey, bring a freaking tire that wears out. Let's go back to what it looked. This can go back to making racing great again. Make racing great again. I mean, from a racing standpoint, it's going to be 10 times better.

I was just playing a little devil's advocate, but it's not my money, so I don't care. Economically, man, I get it. But if it costs more for a better race, we need to do it. Do you remember Phoenix in the fall? Phoenix even in the spring? Any short track. That is our championship racetrack, guys. We can't go back there and put on a boring race.

That Super Bowl last night, other than the fact that I lost money, was phenomenal. It was a great game for three quarters. Was there a football game? There was a football game last night. I hate, you missed it at your party. But we've got to make racing great again, and that's what we're doing. The changes are, the rear spoiler will be 2.75 inches instead of 8,

and the front splitter's overhang will be a quarter inch instead of 2 inches, and alterations to the radio pan, removing its vertical fencing to reduce front end downforce. I can see where that would be. There's a lot of work in that area on the cars anyway, just to mostly mile and a half. stuff for air underneath the car. But yeah. Another change, NASCAR implemented stage length adjustments for 16

races. I can just a quick note, they decreased the length of the final stage to make for only one green flag stop. And I think they noted, too, that they considered going to four stages but ended up sticking with three spot on, spot of

TJ. So we're lengthening the first two stages a little bit? Basically the second stage. I mean, I kind of got used to how it was, but I think that second stage was too short. A lot of these places, if you did an Xfinity race or a truck race, the second stage was like... Oh, yeah, the Xfinity a truck race.

Like a heat race. Yeah. I mean, it was so short. And, I mean, I literally at Pocono, I did the truck race there. And right after the, we took the green in the second stage, I'm like, all right, nine to go. Oh, yeah, it was like 20 lap stages.

Yeah, it was so sure. I don't think it was that. Yeah. But, you know, hey, if this keeps the race a little closer and tighter and a bunch of things up and gives opportunity for different strategies, I would love it if there was some tire wear in this where we could maybe take two or have the option to, you know, I want to see guys lifting and trying to save their tires a little bit to make a run at the end. of a stage or something like that.

Have they said, are they doing it for Xfinity and Truck? I know, I've seen the Cup stuff. I don't know, have they made any announcements? Are they lengthening the Exfinity and Truck stages? I hope not, because they don't, they only need one stage in those series, which would make the race be two stages. We don't need two stage breaks in a truck race or an Xfinity race because, A, it makes it to where those guys never get to pit under green.

And I'm sorry, but pitting under green to me is awesome. It gives guys an opportunity to advance their position. It gives guys an opportunity to screw up. Their strategy on when to pit, When not to pit two tires, four tires, gas only. So that tells you that I'm probably spot off on this whole stage lengthening thing. I like green flag racing. I like organic racing.

And we have just changed it again four stages and add a third stage break. Are you kidding me? And then they say, well, we're going to wait and see how this new car does before we make that decision. Well, at what point are you going to know how the new car is going to do? Is that going to be July? Like, you can't make that decision over next winter either because we haven't even race yet. So get off the three-stage break thing. Leave the two-stage break thing as it is. But again, I'm a fan of Green Flag Pitstops. These pit-cru guys make a lot of money. They make a lot more

money in those spotters. Let's be honest. I'm not saying we're underpaid, but they make a hell of a lot more money, two to three times what we make those pit-cru guys make. They need to be an important part of it. And Green Flag Racing, Green Flag Pit Stops, that's where to me they're worth all their money. Listen to me, yellow comes out. Yes, obviously pit stops are pit-stops. But I'm all for green flag stops. Yeah, I'm spot off on the stage changing because I felt like it was pretty simple, especially for fans watching. You know, you had a 75 lap stage and a 75 lap stage.

That was easy. Now it's like we got a 75 lap stage, then we got 153 lap stage, and then the next finals, 136 laps. Like, what's wrong? Like, I feel like the people watching are like, what the hell, I don't know what's going on. When's the stage over? Who knows? Like, especially people in the stands.

Like, I've had people like, what's the L of 4? Oh, it's the end of a stage. All right, great. I didn't know what time that was, you know, what lap that was coming. but so just keep it simple for them. I mean, Jesus. But, yeah, the four stages is a joke. The kiss method.

Keep a simple stupid. Yeah. The fourth, what's, another thing the four stages is going to create is more damn playoff points that, you know, Kyle Bush,

Martin Chu X go out there and Dominator race, they're going to have the same buy at a homestead that they've always had. You know, you're just going to get more playoff points. I liked them playoff points last year. But yeah, we talk about all the time about how much some playoff points are, affect the chase,

and now you're going to give more playoff points away? Once you get a solid start to the year and you bank some playoff points or get or lucky enough to get a win in the first month or so, man, all as you do is put them in the bank. Yeah. You know, it doesn't, you can win the first two stages and finish six in the race and still be great for the playoff time. Spot on, spot off truck series playoff field expanding to 10.

Ooh, T.J. you did not look happy. I'm just spot off on that. We had a great deal last year. There was people. I mean, if there was 50 competitive trucks, sure. Let me ask you this before you go any further, because I want to hear your take on this. Oh, boy.

Is this the Cowbush Motorsports rule because their full-time drivers didn't make it? I mean, I think when you look at it, don't be scared now. I think when you look at it and you look at who missed it, you're like, whoa, wait a minute. But that's their own fault. That's not, you created a system, and it was supposed to put people in a bind,

and the system creates this. We're not supposed to, if anything, sure. it. You know what I mean? I don't think with as many trucks as there are and competitive ones, I thought eight was a great number last year. I mean, we missed it. We missed the playoffs completely. But I mean, we knew we had to win. The pressure was on and we didn't get it done. So we're going to go and try again this year. Playoffs are meant to be exclusive, not inclusive. And by expanding it, we make it more inclusive. Harrison Burton is a great race car driver. Todd Gilland is a great race car driver. Those guys are

capable of winning. But they weren't capable, for whatever reason. I'm making the playoff last year. Calvish Motorsports is probably the highest funded team in the series. So you don't have excuses there in my mind. You have the people. You have the money. You have the drivers. Don't make these rules just to go let KBM make it or Toyota to make it because they didn't make it.

And that's when I look at this and I may get told that I'm wrong. I get told that a lot. But I don't understand. I didn't like when we went from 10 to 16 in the Cup series. Again, the purpose of the postseason is to be exclusive. Let's be honest with each other. We've got 25 legitimate cup teams that are probably capable of making the playoffs. 27, let's say 27, right?

So to be 16 out of 27, that ain't that hard. I'm sorry. So then you look at the truck series. How many do you think honestly have a chance? There's only like 12 full-time truck. So now 85% of those guys are going to get to make the playoffs. I mean, in the Xfinity series, don't take this wrong. You're taking away from the tense moments.

Like you create the tense moments with people putting in pressure. And that's what we need. I feel like it's a way bigger storyline that Todd, you know, we can playoff of that more, that Todd Gill and Harrison Burton to make the playoffs. Like we should not be expanding. We should be subtracting from the Xfinity. We should go to 12 in the cup. Like that first round is almost a joke.

Like it's the, you know who the four guys are going to be out every year because it's the four guys that squeaked in and probably shouldn't be in there. And it's, I feel like the whole first round is a waste of time. It's usually somebody that won a plate race or something. It would be a way bigger storyline. If we're going a damn, where is it, Daytona this year. And like you've got Clinton, like you guys wouldn't have made it if it was 12 last year. I mean, you got big name guys and are like, you know, these guys are big names on the brink of not making it, or they're not going to make it. Todd Gillland misses it.

Todd Gillland wins Martinsville. It's a great freaking storyline. Great. I'm with you, man. But I'm a sports guy, you know, and I know sometimes that can convoluted my thinking. But again, exclusive, not inclusive. You're relieving some pressure and that's not. Yeah, I mean, basically right now these guys have to show up.

85% of the good full-time truck teams are going to make the playoffs. What's the point? you're just taken away from the last couple races before the chase. I'm telling you what happened. Sponsors and manufacturers jumped up and down the screen. We were spending so much money. You know what? I don't care.

Your guys had every chance to make that playoff. Ross Chastain didn't even freaking start the truck series thing until halfway through the year, and he made the playoff. I'm waiting. I'm interested to see this year we have, what's his name is running KBM. Chandler Smith is probably one of the best. young prospects coming through the sport right now, and he doesn't turn 18 until

I want to say May or something like that, and everybody's like, he's got to do the same thing Ross. He's got to win a race. He's got to get in the top 20 points. I would be willing to bet you if he starts in May, I forget, I think his birthday's in May, I have to look it up. He can make the top 10 of points, I bet. How much? How much you want to bet?

Again, like I said, you only race in 12 guys. Yeah, I mean, he's going to finish in the top 10 every race, and, you know, I'd be in there. I mean, I'm not sure he's going to do it, but I bet he comes pretty damn close. shouldn't be like that. We'll see. On the opposite side, though, like thinking playing devil's advocate here,

does it mean there will... There might be more teams signing on to the truck series because they have more of a chance of doing well. No. I don't think so. The purses are not there, and right now the sponsorship's not there. Now, you look at, again, elect few.

I mean, you look at Thor Sport, you look at KBM, you look at knee-smobile, You look at Nees Motorsports. You look at GMS. There's not a lot. There's no cup players in the truck series anymore. And when the truck series was booming, man, you had Jack Sprague, Round Hornaday. All those guys had cup affiliates.

Our buddy Rick Corelli, Tony Raines, a bunch of guys, right? And here's the thing about that, Casey, right? So if you make a living and you want more money, there's only two things to do. Either A, make more money or B, spend less money. And that's where NASCAR is kind of going with this rule. package for next year. Instead of giving the teams more money out of their pocket, which will be more TV money, they're trying to cut cost. And then cutting cost makes us have what we're going to see as less providers. You're not going to build your own chassis anymore. You're going to buy them

from Team X. You're going to buy your composite body from supplier Y. So I'm a fan of letting us pioneer this whole thing. Don't tell us how much money we got to spend or don't have to spend. Let us go out and do what we've done, which is pioneer and be inventive and push the envelope and make NASCAR do their jobs to keep us all within our little box that we have to play and to keep it fair. And so to your point, I just think that the revenue dollars right now aren't enough in some of these series to won't make people want to come in. It's like the chili bowl. There's this chili bowl with 300 entries and all this hype around it. The guy pays out $10,000 to the winner. Oh, I know. What a joke.

Like, what an act. That guy should be kicked in the balls for that. That's not even fair. This guy goes out there and makes all that money on the Tulsa shootout to basically pay for the whole event. Then the Chili Bowl is all profit. Good for him on his business side. Give something back to the racers. Freddie posted something earlier this year that one of the racetracks up north where the purse.

Thompson has been cut completely to crap. And basically the thing is, we don't want you guys here. Like pay these freaking people to come do well. I'm not saying pay the guy to finish just last anything. Yeah, but I mean, besides outside of Chili. Like there's a ton of dirt tracks and we're seeing it. We spend so much, like owning a dirt team, we spend a lot of money. And the payout is- Sprint cars pay the worst.

It's not solid for how much you travel, how much you spend. Clint's late model guys can go out and make some money. I mean, they can go win $25,000, $50,000. We'll never not do it because it's obviously what Chad loves. And yeah, and the racing is great, but yeah, I see it. I feel like some of these racetracks look at teams like an adversary. You know what I mean? Like it's us versus them.

They work. I know. I'm drunk. I told you. But like, they should be partners. You know, I mean, you're in business together. That's your show. Like, you should be working together to take care of each other to make the product the best.

And it seems like a lot of these places, Thompson especially, like, that deals a joke. They built a road course and they're catering to the wine and cheese crowd that wants to rent the racetrack. And they really don't care about the Oval program no more. So they basically cut the purse to like, I mean, it's half a set of tire. You know, half the price of a set of tires is what you get to win now. They basically don't want to do it no more. But the drivers all said, yeah, we'll still. come so they're going to have a six race schedule. And this is, this is, this goes back to me to, to the

whole diversity thing in NASCAR and diversity in motorsports. Any kid in America, including mine, can lace up his shoes and buy a $50 pair of shoes at the Academy Sports right here. Go buy him a basketball for 20 bucks and he can go play basketball. Racing is really expensive and you have to come from a background that your family is willing to invest money for you to be able to go out there in race. And other cultures don't necessarily see value in that because the return to Casey's point is very, very low. I mean, TJ, how much money did you spend racing when you were trying to come up?

Oh, yeah. Well, I spent everything I had. I mean, I spent everything I had. I mean, I was talking to my mom and skipping car payment so I could buy tires from my race car. Yeah. And that's my point. Greed will kill everything, you know. Anyway, I'm done.

That was my rant, I guess, for the show. Good work. Last one. Spot on, spot on. driver and spotter silly season. A few notables swore to the 96 and John Hunter Nemech rookie to the 38. A lot of spotter swaps man. Probably what, 10 or 12? New guys are over at JTG. So you got Ricky and you got priests with new spotters. You've got Barron. Bell Larson. Reddick. Reddick. Yeah, Bell. I mean, I'm probably 10, 12 guys that swap.

Here's the hard thing about that, people. we're going into one of the most challenging races of the year. We'll get a little bit of practice next weekend. Some of us will get to run the class for a little bit more practice. We'll get a little bit of practice on Thursday for the dual races, but it's not a full field. So you're getting thrown to the wolves with your new guy in the hardest race the year of the Daytona 500.

So if you're a spotter, you better have your stuff together, man, because it can go real bad real quick. I mean, I saw guys like crazy, you know, that moved over to Matt Kenseth, and it took them a little while to get on the same page. and I saw Joey Meyer, who I thought was one of the best track spotters or was in the sense that he's not spotting anymore. Neither that he can't do it. But when I saw him get with Paul Menard, I was like, hey, that's a fast car. He's a good spotter.

He's probably going to help this guy play tracks. It's hard to be thrown to the wolves at the hardest, one of the hardest races that year. I don't know if you guys go through this, but even like I've been with Bubba forever, like I need that first practice to Daytona. Like we need to get back into that. You know what I mean? Like they're like, we need to get out of there. I'm like, no, as much as he needs his practice on, you know, blocking runs. in the draft. I need it too. You know what I mean?

Like we've been off for three months and we're throwing right back to our, you know, probably our most difficult track. And I'm like, man, I'm like, I need this just as much as he does. Yeah. T.J., good input on this part. I'm just sitting here thinking. We didn't really spotter-wise, you're going to hear all the same guys except for two guys that have left the sport, not left the sport, but chose to leave spotting. Billy O'Day left. He's not, he went and is pursuing other opportunities. He's at RCR still. Yeah, but he's also doing his own 3D printing stuff like that.

And Joey Meyer is now a full-time pilot, which he also has done his whole life. He's a phenomenal pilot, great spotter as well. So those two guys, their seats got filled by others. We didn't really lose anybody, I don't think. I'm not sure. I don't think so. I don't think so. Just guys that willingly let, you know, like you just.

said those two. Yeah. I don't think we lost. Those two leaving to do other jobs kept it so everyone stayed, everyone else stayed. It's going to be interesting. Daytona, I mean, I've seen guys not make it through the Daytona 500 before, literally. Or the duel. Or the duel, yeah.

So we'll see what happens, man. Be fun. It does create, you know, I have an awareness of that in the draft when we get to Daytona. Now, by Talladega, I'm pretty much over it because they've been working together for 10 weeks, and you're either good by that point or you're not, right? But at Daytona, I am aware of who I'm around and whether or not their spotters and drivers have been working together. This just reminded me last year I got,

I went and talked to somebody about spotting for a truck and was fine doing it, fine, not doing it. And they chose someone else. We literally got through the first practice Daytona. My phone's ringing, hey, are you doing a truck in Daytona? The guy's not a speedway guy, super speedway guy. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm busy. Yeah.

So that, like you said, and that was right after first practice. Yeah. So you know really quickly if your guy is capable of calling a plate race. And spotting at Michigan and spotting at Daytona, Taladega, are completely different animals. We want to take a moment of silence for the members of the race community who have passed away over the offseason. David Pearson and John Endretty.

Let's go into Fast Lane. Three racing questions. One off-the-wall question. 30 seconds to respond to each. Only 30 seconds. How are you going to start some talking? Good look. Fast lane.

First question. Which driver do you expect to have a breakout season and a better than ever performance in 2020? TJ. Oh, man. You know, my breakout is, man, I'm rolling with William Byron. I think he's going to have a strong year. I think he's in a must-win situation. I mean, you know, you can't come into the Cup Series and be in some of the best cars and not win races.

And I think William is capable. We all know Chad Canals is capable. I think he's got to get it done. He was actually number one on my list. And believe it or not, you may think I'm crazy with this second one, but Kyle Larson, Kyle is, he's been here a long time. He's won some races, but not a lot of races, hadn't won any big races. He's in a contract year we hear.

He's probably the only free agent that I feel like can really go out there and warrant a big paycheck. And the only way he's going to get it is to go out and win races. Yeah. I had Byron kind of circled on my list. Same as you guys. I think, you know, obviously he really turned it on. I feel like the second half of last year had a good season,

a good end of the season. Another guy, maybe Chris Busher. I think him moving over to Roush. I think he kind of overperformed in that JTG stuff. I agree. And it'll be interesting to see how he translates that. It's over to Rouse. I mean, he's probably one of the most consistent drivers over the last, you know,

whatever, five, six years across all the different forms of racing. I feel like him and Newman can be really good teammates. Yeah. Neither one of them talks. I agree with you there. That's a good one. Casey, who do you think is going to have a breakout year? Yeah, who's your favorite driver?

I don't see he's my favorite driver. I do think William Byron, I think he has a lot of pressure right now. He's been fast. He was fast in the last year. He has a great team. They always end up on the front row for qualifying on the pole for the DECD 500. I'm going to tell you what, RCR made as many changes over the offseason as I've ever seen one company make. And if they go well and if they work, Tyler Redick is going to put a lot.

a lot of pressure on Austin Dillon. Austin Dillon has, yes, we know he has family ties. He's the grandson of Richard Childress and his mom is Richard's daughter. But I'm going to tell you something, man. It can get hot on your ass when your teammate is up there running good and you're and Reddick is a wheelman. I was just about to say I was looking at the list of rookie drivers we have this year and they were all dominant in the Xfinity series.

It's going to be a learning curve. I'll tell you, just thinking real quick here, who else could, if he could figure out how to get through the beginning months of the season is Eric Jones. He better get the hot, too. Because if he's on, his ass is going to be out. Second, when it gets midsummer and on, Eric Jones gets really good. And I don't know what it is. He did it the last two years.

But it starts getting super hot. Eric Jones starts going fast. I think also, you know. He's on a one-year deal. He better show out too. The 95, you don't, like now, JGR really supporting them a ton. curious is you know Is this your breakout person?

I knew that was coming No I was waiting Well that's why Because I wasn't going to bring him up You imagine that Oh way to go You know what

If it was Chad talking fine But We'll get you You're Christopher Bell PJs I know Jason can wear his cobblish PJs I said William Byron And you all can walk in here together

You guys are being so mean to me To start off this year Only because you didn't want to say Christopher right away Well I said William Because it's accurate Willie B I like William

Me too I taught him how to play blackjack I was going to say that, but I didn't think we should talk about it. What, me teaching him how to play blackjacket? Bless his heart. Poor guy. And, of course, as usual. Every time.

He's playing $10 a hand. I'm playing $100 a hand. I'm losing my ass, and he's winning. And I'm like, I want to know what is on his normal everyday life. Because every time, and I've actually ran a lot of eye racing here lately, every time I get on there. I swear to God that kid's on there running. He is racing every race he can run. And he's fast, too.

But he's just on there. I mean, just. I mean, he studies as hard as anybody. He's a preparation guy, and Jimmy Johnson got here and changed the sport because of how he prepared. William Byron works that hard at preparation too. How many guys ride bikes because of Jimmy? Yeah. Some guys say he ruined the sport.

I might be friends with one of them or two of them or five of them. The guy with a hat on his face. They're like, thanks, Jimmy. Ruined it. Carmichael did the same thing in motocross, you know? Yep. Yeah. Question number two, the 2010's decade produced the most different champions in NASCAR history with a total of seven.

Do you expect that number to be higher, lower, or the same over the next decade? Freddie? I would probably say lower. Seven's a lot for 10 years. I mean, that's a lot. I didn't realize it was that many different winners. I would say you're probably going to be looking like four or five over the next. I mean, you're going to have, you know, Kyle, Joey, Danny.

I don't know where you go past that, really, you know, who the next guys are going to step up are. Kevin probably gets one. I'd say you're probably looking at five or six over the next decade. I think you have an opportunity to match that or break it with this package. This package and the chase and the playoff format or whatever you want to call it can go bad real quick. And you can eliminate one of them guys.

It's pretty hard to. repeat nowadays with as close as the competition is. We have more cars on the lead lap than we've ever had at the end of a race now, I feel. It's just close, man. It's, and you can't afford a, you know, you're going to have your good teams, but it's going to be hard for it to go perfect for two years in a row or, you know, it's hard. It's really hard. You know how it is. Don't start my time yet, Jason. Did you come up with this or did you read this somewhere? I think I did read it over the off season. Oh, man, I was getting ready to give you mad credit. You should have just lied. Yeah, I agree. I was trying to make you look good. Trying to get you your first raise already on your job.

I'm digging through all these articles. I mean, here's just. I mean, here's And here's the thing, man, is seven winners in 10 years? Is that a good thing for our sport? Or do we like dynasties? Do we like the Cowboys in the 80s? Do we like Tiger Woods? Do we like Michael Jordan at Chicago Bulls? Like, do we like Jimmy Johnson winning five in a row?

I don't know the answer to that question. But I'm with Freddie. Seven is a lot. I don't think you see seven winners in the next decade. I don't think there's, I mean, the same four guys are going to have historically keep going into the final round, three out of the four-half. So I think you see those guys, you know, step up. And I see maybe four or five champions.

Kyle Larson tweeted that his super speedway racing strategy for the rest of his career will be to hang out in the back until the end to avoid the big one. What drafting strategy do you predict will be the most successful this year at Daytona? Brett. The last few 500s have been won by people who did exactly what Kyle Larson is saying he's going to do, which is try to avoid the wreck. Not necessarily the case at Talladega, not necessarily the case when we come back to Daytona. in July, but for whatever reason, the Daytona 500, the last few years has kind of had the Austin Dillon thing happen, and the Kurt Busch with no mirror happened because everybody's running out of gas.

Like there's the scenarios there. I don't like to do that because Freddie made a good point earlier. We're rusty. And if you ride around to the end and then you get up and there and go, hey, let's race our butts off. And it's like, hey, bud, I've been sitting up here for two and a half hours. Like, now you want to go? Like, I like to practice in the race.

I like to be ready for the end when the end comes. But I damn sure I hate leaving that race on a record. Yeah, I mean, the same guys do this all the time. You got Ryan Newman back there. You got the JTG cars back there. And then a couple guys, Clint goes back there sometimes. He goes front, goes back. I feel like to win the race, you probably need,

I feel like it's easier to win the race if you're leading to, like if you're up front, I feel like them guys get good finishes. Newman actually put himself in position to win, does it Talladega last year, by riding in the back. But I feel like everything has to go perfect for that to work. Like you see them JTG guys ride back there, Core the Joy rides back there. and they get the top fives, the top tens,

but it's really hard coming from the back there to put yourself in position to win the race. Yeah, I don't... You can't... What if the big wreck doesn't happen until, you know, what if you're down to 50 laps to go in the race and there hasn't been a big one yet? What do you do then? You've got no choice. You've got to try to get through all them cars.

And then what's going to happen then? When you get later in the race, everyone's agenda becomes the same as the laps wind down. You've got to get to the front. And it's not so much like that in the first 50 laps. HANA LAPS, everyone's like, all right, you can go ahead. There's way less give when them laps start ticking down at the end for the Daytona 500. Let's talk about the weather in Daytona. Right now it's going to be in the 70s as far out as my forecast goes.

When we race in the day there and it's hot, and I'll call 75 hot because that's going to give you a 90-degree track temp. It's slick. We don't see the big packs staying in the big packs. When we go back there for the July 4th race, which won't be the July 4th race now, but we run at night and we stay all packed up and all together. So to some degree, to TJ's point, if you're in the back and it gets spread out, you're not, you don't have time to get back up through there. Like, well, on new tires, you know, for 8, 10 laps, yeah, we're going to see the three wide, four wide crazy crap that usually creates the big one. But man, if it's hot and slick and you're choosing the ride in the back, there's no way you pass all those cars if there's not a big rat.

If guys are lifting, it's going to be, and Dayton is narrow. I know you don't, I know it doesn't look narrow or on TV or anything like that, but it's narrow. man like you when somebody slides off the corner a little bit and gets a little loose or even gets tight either way off a four they got a they need racetrack and if they move up half three quarters of lane it that guy on the outside is already in a tough spot so uh handling matters in the daytona 500 yeah and you can't listen man these guys are awesome you're not going to drive through 30 cars the lead it just doesn't happen like that i mean unless everything goes absolutely perfect but you're not gonna and anytime say you lay out say you lay in the back and there's 20 to go you start getting a line

together you're running out by the wall by the time you get to 15th what happens somebody pulls up in front of you get a lot like exactly it just doesn't and there's there's nowhere safe every and we were riding around the back last year at tallega just riding around the back and you get back there with guys that we're running like third or racing around we were on like third or fourth and got and we were we were we were there was three cars at the back of the pack it was the double zero us and I forget one of the Jay Robinson cars. And the double zero broke in front of us. He checked up hard.

Bubba went to avoid him, but we got hooked in the fence, running second of last, just riding around, not even trying to race. There's nowhere safe. And we saw it last year in the, was I think it was the last year when the net one,

and we were single-file just the whole end of the race. I was doing the Johnny Davis stuff, and we're riding around the back. And he's like, what do we do now? I'm like, nothing. We've got to hope for caution because we're just, you're not going to over now. I was seventh with Ross in that race,

and Ross hadn't, didn't have anything to lose that time. like he wanted to win the race and he keeps pulling out and I'm like man you're going to go the back and sure as hell we went to back think we ended up to finish the 12th but he was trying to make something happen but again it's hot it's slick those guys are staying in line you can't pass them yeah it's not as easy as you make it as it sounds just if this were a night race man it's a whole different animal you can even tell me hey we got six of us that are going to line up and drive to the front yeah no they're going to somebody's going to pull up in front of you I would do a

630 p.m. start or 7 p.m. start where it's you know kind of the end of daylight going into the because I think the racing would be phenomenal. It's going to be phenomenal anyway. It's Daytona. But I love being packed up. And the drivers probably don't love it. Let's be honest with each other. But as a spotter, man, I love it.

I like slick racetracks where I see them fight. And then you've got to plan. You've got to have, you got a plan. I mean, if you're going to try to pass that guy, you better make it work. Yeah. So I like a little of both. I mean, I like when it cools off too. Off the Wall topic.

If you were throwing a Super Bowl party and could invite one professional athlete, one famous movie star, and one U.S. president. Who would you invite and why? T.J. Ah, man. We've had a question like this before, but I would probably invite, probably like Vince Vaughn, athlete, Rob Grunkowski, and probably President Trump. Trump. Trump doesn't drink. That's all right. Are you sure? Have you seen his? Well, his Twitter looks like he drinks all day. I've had the pleasure meeting him and got the, you know, we got to speak with him. He's tall, man.

I met him in New York one time. He's a tall guy. Famous athlete. Huh. What's that? Natalie Golbus. Who the hell is that? Just Google her.

You'll see why I'm enlightened. I'm sure. Former LPGA player. Smoking that. Oh, yeah. I think I know. Real real, really. A famous athlete.

Now ago, was famous movie star. Man, I don't watch a lot of movies. But I like Sandra Bullock and famous U.S. President. Let's go with Hillary Clinton. Oh, wait, she lost. She's a loser.

We can't invite Hillary. She doesn't meet the credentials. You would say that. I knew when he said that it wasn't going to happen. If he'd wear his mom jeans, I want Barack Obama to come because I'd love to make fun of that. Athlete, I'm going John Daley.

That's my man right there. That's the guy he's right out my alley Jesus Movie star I don't know Probably somebody like 80 Murphy Somebody funny Oh yeah

He's a little bitty dude Is he? Yeah I saw him in Vegas one time He was in a club You used to have there called Bank And Belagio And I'm telling you he's Casey's size Like he's tiny

Really? Yeah You know I'm Morgan Freeman Hey First down here, Freddie President I'd say Kennedy He seems like a bit of a

Fun guy to be around Was it a fun guy to be around Jesus, oh, man. Jason, who's your three? Tom Brady, but he might be playing in the Super Bowl, but in like five years. All right, just stop. Let me tell you so.

Tom Brady is amazing, but he's done. Did you cry in that commercial? He's washed up. Oh, I was freaking out for a second. Like, is he just going to upstage the Super Bowl by him? What are you going to do when he leaves, Jason? I do like. He's done.

He's done. He's like 27th in the league and yards, you know, per pass downfield. But, like, love the guy. He's one of the greatest, but he's done. He's pretty funny on social media. He's great. I do find that. Kind of funny.

I think he'll do TV. I hope not. I'm tired of seeing him on TV. They're going to pay him 30 million if he comes back to the Patriots. Did you see what they're getting ready to pay Tony Romo? That's what they pay all the other guys. Tony Romo, they're trying to, the ESPN's trying to get him away from CVS. They're all for like $12 to $14 million a year to do Monday night football.

Well, at least he can finally go to a playoff game. I like what. I like listening to Roblo. He's the reason I'm not a Cowboys fan anymore. Him and Jerry Jones, single-handedly them two guys. I don't understand how he did not excel with the Cowboys because he can call every freaking play on television. He can tell you what's happened.

I'm like, where was this when you were playing? Yeah. Why is he not? To the left here. Why is he not the highest paid defensive coordinator ever? Like, I want him as my defensive coordinator. Yeah, I mean, he is, I've, I'm a big football fan NFL. So I, I probably.

Bill's have the second most losses in the Super Bowl history, by the way. Hey, they had a good year this year. Who's most? Cowboys? No. Damn, I can't remember because I just knew what I saw there. Probably the Broncos. Broncos, I feel like lost it forever. I just enjoy listening to Tony. I like listening. Brown's a third. I like listening to him call out plays because then I start seeing different things. You know what I mean? You start looking for different things on the field as a fan. Do you make notes for your Madden game when you're listening to the Roma? I've won a lot of Madden Super Bowls, bud. A lot.

What kind of coverage you running? Manor's on. Depends. Who am I playing? What's their strengths? Play that weak-ass soft cover, too, like last night, where they let everything stay in front of them, and Tyreek Hill just running all over them.

Here you go. Catch it. We'll let you catch it, and then we'll see what happens. Let's the fastest guy to league catch it and see what he does with a ball. His nickname's Cheetah. I'll have to go watch the game and see what happens. His nickname's Cheetah. Let's just let him catch the ball and run.

I mean, why? He's probably not that good. You think they got that game on replay somewhere I can watch it? Probably. All right, ask TVC. Go, let's do it. Ask DBC. Send in your questions 24-7 on Twitter using the hashtag AskDBC.

First question is from P. Schmidt's 1988. Since you're working with new crew chiefs this year, who's the best crew chief you've worked with in your career? I'm assuming this one is... For everyone. Yeah, I guess so. Everybody's got new crew chiefs. Everybody got a new crew chiefs. Everybody got a new crew chief.

Everybody. How about you, Freddie? I mean, just touching on, I'm really happy with the crew chief we got now. I love Jerry Baxter. He's probably one of my favorite guys in the garage and it has been for a while. Me and Bubba had them together when we were running trucks at KBM. Had a lot of success over there. And I think he's going to come in and do a good job for us.

Favorite crew chief probably was my first cup deal. I had a combination of Bono and Tommy Baldwin, guys I've known forever. And that was a lot of fun. I mean, I can't touch on everything we'd do. did, but there was a lot of fun. I've had both those guys, too. So what does Jerry Baxter bring to the table for you guys, you think? I think just stability for Bubba.

I mean, we had a great crew chief last year, Derek. Is he still there? No, he's not. He was our lead. Drew was there the year before, Blickens Durfer, and he was our lead engineer. And kind of last minute, Drew moved over to front row, and Derek kind of got thrown into the crew chief role, really probably not really wanting it. And, like, he was great.

The cars were great. He made great adjustments. The only weak spot was maybe just communication with Bubba, and that's a big deal with Bubba. And a lot of times Bubba is honestly just looking for somebody to fight with. You know what I mean? Like, he's fiery. Like, he's got, that's his personality.

Like, he wants that banner back and forth. He wants somebody to get on him when he's not doing stuff right, you know. And Jerry will do that. And this is kind of, this is Bubba's call. This is the guy Bubba wanted. So now, you know, you got what you got. Good. Well, you got that in Atlanta.

I don't know. I don't what you're talking about. I know. Man, I've worked with a lot of different people. Some I liked more than others. I love the guy away from the track, but did not enjoy a work on. It was Slugger. I've heard that out of spotters.

I've heard a lot of spotters say that he is not fun to work with. Oh, my gosh, ma'am. He's a fun guy, though. He's a great guy. Yeah, I mean, I like him. I like to s' out of Slugger. But I've heard, TJ's not the first guy. heard you say that.

Stevie said it, Joey said it, a bunch of people have said it. He will let you know his thoughts immediately as things happen. It might not be right, but he's going to let you know. I think I really loved working with Stevie, LaTart. Man, I'm trying to, I mean, I got to work with Tony Jr. Just the people that, I mean, I got to work with Tony Sr. here. that was a learning curve with me and Brad

when me and Brad worked with pops here that was he was another guy that if you did if you messed up you knew that's the thing about Baxter too he's an old school guy I got to work with him with Trevor Bain at Michael Watcher Racing

and those old school guys have a different mentality well I mean it made I think it made me better and I think it made Brad better too because there's times whenever we got cussed out on the radio and we were sitting there we'd go back into the garage and me and Bradder's standing there

and we're like man I don't know what we could have done different. We didn't even do anything wrong. Yeah. And, you know, pops there, and then you're like, oh, man, is he going to yell at us again? Is he going to yell at us again? He'd walk over. Hey, you guys going to the truck, eat some pizza or something.

But you're like, me and your brother, like, oh, he's not mad anymore. Yes, we can go. You know, you're not getting yelled at anymore. He did a lot for Dell Jr.'s career, man. He, but he made you like, I mean, you just didn't, I mean, he made us better. I mean, he definitely made us better. I remember they'd show up 99, 2000, testing the A.C. Delco car with Pops and literally Freddie, they'd unload.

They'd run for an hour. Everybody's already there testing. They would unload while the test was going on, run for an hour and leave. And you're like, hey, we've been here like four hours and we're going to be here another 12. Can we go home? Richmond mandate show up, test an hour and go home. I will say that working with a lot of different creatures, you see their strengths

and weaknesses too, like working with Todd, working with Todd Gordon, very engineer-driven, very detailed, really enjoyed working with him to see how they're. They handled things, very professional. You know, he was just very engineer compared to some of the others, but very good, too. I mean, you just, just different. Really enjoy working with them, guys. I don't know if he was the best crew chief I've ever worked with because that's a hard answer. You know, to say the best, because to be the best, you have to do all those things that TJ just said.

I mean. And the team, too. You've got to have the team, too. You've got to have the team. You got to have the pit crew. You got to have the driver. You got to have the engineering. You got to have just the synergy, the leadership.

But my favorite crew chief I've ever worked with, hands down, is Todd Parrott. And I say that because Todd was a lot like, Todd is an old school racer. He would let you have it in a heartbeat. You never had to wonder what Todd Parrott was thinking. He told you what he was thinking. But he never did it to hurt your feelings. He did it and you moved on from it. And his accolades and his accomplishments,

probably almost Hall of Fame worthy, if not Hall of Fame worthy. I won a lot of, you know, won a championship with Del Jaret. I want a ton of races, family legacy. Like I'm most appreciative to have worked with Todd Parrott out of all the guys that I've worked with. And I've been fortunate to work with a lot of them. Some new guys now, you know, like Bugo, like Luke Lambert, like Kevin Meandering, you know, going all the way back to the Tommy Baldwin's and whatnot. I'm glad I didn't have to work with Slugger because I really like Slugger.

And if he's a dick on the radio, it would end up making me not like him. but Todd Perez my answer. I don't think there's many crew chiefs that I work with that I don't actually like. You know what I mean? You like them all. I mean, Doug Randolph has been a great crew chief. I've worked with him a bunch. There's just a lot of great guys

and put in the right situations they will succeed. Next one. This one is from Brian Dildine on Facebook, actually. What change do you think will have the biggest impact this year? And also, what's an affordable race for a first-timer from Washington State to go to that will be a good race. How about Brett?

Man, let's go with the affordable race first. If you're in Washington State, I would imagine that you can fly to Vegas pretty cheap. I would imagine that you can stay in Old Vegas pretty cheap. And I would imagine that if you go to the Spearmint Rhino, you're going to spend about $2,000. That will not be cheap. That'll be about $2,000. It is one of the best shoe shows in America. Oh, that's a shoe show.

Yeah, it's a shoe show. I've heard of it. Spirreement Rhino is But honestly Vegas If you're not an animal Vegas would be cheap

Don't you think so Yes You stay at the dam Where would be cheaper Well I mean you're just so many So many Options to stay And honestly

Like even Even What's a Brennan South Point Yeah like the room's there 59 bucks a night I will say

From experience It varies Dependant on What else is going on in Vegas So we can go We're not talking about the Cosmo. We're talking about...

No, but even like other... Yeah, even other hotels, too. Like, we would have to stay somewhere pretty far out. But he doesn't care where he stays, obviously. The cheapest hotel in Vegas is probably pretty nice compared to some of the places we go. I mean, you're going to spend $400 a night stay at a double tree in Bristol. That's what it is. Like, I mean, I don't know.

It drives me nuts what some of the hotel prices does. What was the first part of his question? What changed do I think? will have the biggest impact this year. Well, you're going to say the short tracks, though. Yeah, I mean, there's no question that's going to have the biggest change from last year, you know, but hopefully the biggest change is these drivers put on their big boy pants and come to put on a show.

You know, sometimes the race is only as good as those guys in the seat can make it. And don't be buddies. Get out there and race. Race hard. We've added some younger talent into the crop again here this year, so. They're hungry. Yeah. They got to eat.

Yep. There's a lot of guys on contract years this year. A lot of guys. This could be a good year. A lot of guys on. one-year deals. That's one-year deals or like a lot. There's probably half the field is contracts up at the end of this year. Yeah. Yeah.

Last one is from Teamster Dusty. Sorry, Teamster Dusty. Sorry. Since Tony Stewart got inducted into the Hall of Fame, what's your favorite smoke memory of him in cup? T.J. Gosh, there's so many of them. Like, he was a part of a lot of things that happened on the track.

He swung at your driver. I will say the helmet throw on Bristol was... You know, but it was two hands. I know, but even two hands. That takes away from it. I know, but it's still a good toss for two hands. I think I'd throw it better one-handed. Same.

I mean, Tony was just... I just remember Tony, if something happened, he was... You didn't talk about it later. Tony found whoever it was after the race. And that was it. I mean, he was just known for that. and away from the track, one of the best, most caring guys, you could know away from the track as well.

But, yeah, I mean, he's been a lot of little scuffles. I don't know if I have a favorite one out of all of them. When Matthew Dillner listens to this, I think he'll agree with me. Tony Stewart's hero was A.J. Foyt. And I can say, with all honesty, that Tony Stewart grew up to be A.J. Foyt. How cool is that? He is extremely diverse, as was A.J. He can win in anything, as did A.J.

championships and everything, as did AJ, and a temper from hell. And I think if Tony Stewart's hero, and we know it is, is AJ Foyt, like Tony should be pretty damn happy with himself because he grew up to be just like his hero. Team owner, too? Team owner, everything. And also add, like, he is one of the nicest people still. He may have some crazy tempers, but as a person.

If I text him right now, he'll text me right back. Yeah, I agree. He is just so genuine. My favorite Tony Stewart memory, though, is going back to when he drove the Home Depot car at Gibbs to watch him go through the center of the corner at Dover was amazing the way he could squirt the center there he could do it better than anybody else reminds me of like a Kevin Harvick at Atlanta and one and two the way he can go through there really low and get nice and straight coming up off the corner and Tony at Dover through the center of the corner was amazing my

favorite brain fart Tony Stewart moment is and I don't know what year this would have been man I'm going to say around 05 he and Newman were racing each other Newman had come off pit road on new tires. And Tony was out there leading the race, and Tony would not let him go. He kept hold him up, kept hold him up, and Newman finally wrecked him. And Tony had the best car, had a huge lead. All he had to do was pull over, letting Newman go, and he was going to win the race. And it was his race to lose, and he lost it by just being typical Tony Stewart,

just the big personality, you know? Freddie? Yeah. I mean, obviously I think the best Tony Stewart moment was that run for the championship. I forget what year that was with Carl, where he just rattled off all those wins. and he taught crap the whole time. I'll wreck your mom to win a championship. I'll wreck my mom to win a championship, you know.

And obviously just, I mean, all his damn sound bites are hysterical over the years. Like, he's not afraid. He's no filter whatsoever. Like, he's the antagonist, you know, he's going to poke at the bear with NASCAR and stuff. So, I mean, even right up until his Hall of Fame speech about his ex-girlfriends and wanted to thank them along the way. I mean. Did you see the interview where he was at Talladega and he got in the wreck? And he just, for seven minutes went on and on about wrecking.

How he's upset. We didn't get to Rickmore cars that. I'm just really upset. I'm sorry we didn't get enough to cars out. We should take this into a figure eight race. They should drive the wrong way. Like this sport isn't about cars. It's not about racing.

It's about people. And when you have people with big personalities like Tony Stewart, it helps our sport grow. Yes, racing is what we do, but we're also in the people business. Agreed. All right. Well, I cannot believe we're about to say this,

but we are headed to Daytona for Speed Weeks. I can't believe the season is already about to start. I want to know when your first, Daytona 500 was and where you finished. That hell I'm supposed to remember that. Well, then you can go first. It's your first Daytona 500. You don't remember it?

No. What? I don't remember where I finished. I remember doing the race. I think I finished 16th. When was your first one? 2001 was my first Daytona 500 I ever spotted. So 1999 started as L.XPR guy.

Did that for 99, 2000 with him and Michael Walter. I actually had both of them. And in 2000, I ended up spotting. at New Hampshire because the other spotter came in on race day only back then. You didn't have to stand on the roof all weekend like we do now. And he didn't make it. So I went and spotted that race and we missed a wreck. And Elliot was like, man, if my other spotter would have been here, I think I would have been in that wreck. And I was like, what I was really nice to him to say over the radio because he knew that I was nervous and whatever, right? So then over that offseason,

I went to work directly for Elliott as his business manager. The next day he called me and said, hey, I want you to spot for me. And I was like, holy, the next race is the Daytona 500. Like, that's not an easy race, obviously. So my second race I ever spotted in my life was a Daytona 500, 2001. Obviously, we know what happened there with Dale Earnhardt, which may be why it's so vivid in my mind that particular race. But we finished, I think, 16th. And the cool thing for me was, at the time, I was basically living with Elliot.

You know, I stayed on his bus with him every single weekend. And so after practices and after races, we're flying home together. So he was able to debrief with me and tell me, hey, do more of this, do less of this. don't have to tell me this. I can already see it. And so ultimately, he trained me to be exactly what he needed in the car. And I mean, I owe a lot to the guy. But, yeah, 2001, thanks to the Wood Brothers for that opportunity. It paid a whopping $300 a week back then. Friday? Mine was 2013, 14, Tommy Baldwin. Couldn't tell you where we finished. I don't know. Probably

mid-packed somewhere. Un-eventful, stayed out of trouble. Who's driver? Michael Annette. Oh, pilot car. Oh, yeah. I remember that. pilot, flying Jay, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Who's your driver, T.J.? I am looking it up right now.

You don't remember who the driver was? I'm pretty sure my first Daytona 500. You're going to get drug tests after this show. You're going to be the first guy called in in Daytona. You can't remember your first Daytona 500 of who you spotted for or where you finished. No. Race and reference, we own order. Yeah, I'm on racing reference.

Hang out. Do you remember who won the race? Yeah, Jeff Gordon. I think. It might have been 05 or I think it's 05 and I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I'm sorry Boris said oh in a 36 car oh I remember that well you on a road course should have been that was an MB2 deal yes MB2 MV yeah MBV yeah Mbvvvv yeah yeah we've valleling bought in I remember that too yes so um yeah believe that was the first one and Boris was never really a a big factor I think we finished 27th

that says right here. There you go. So how'd you do? I don't know. I think. I'm guessing I'm wrecked. How'd you do personally? Did you do a good job?

Yeah, always. Not cocky at all. All right, well. Never let the truth stand away of a good story. Who are we picking for the 500? And Brett, since you are the defending champion. I'm the four-time defending champions. Okay, whatever.

Back to back to back, to back, to back, to back. I'm going to be Jimmy Johnson and win five in a row. Okay. That's what's going to happen. Man, I'm going to go out on a limb here and pick this guy, and this may be the wrong thing to do this early in the season, because we don't know who's going to do well and who isn't, but there's a little alliance out there brewing,

and it's a new alliance. And because of that, and this is all on the fly, by the way. It was the first name I saw when I flipped the page over. Corey Lejoy, he's my guy. Man, that's your low ball in it. Hmm. I don't know. I think Corey finished the top ten of every play there he was last year.

So, all right, I'll take Tyler Redick. Ready? Bubba Wallace, duh. All right. Bubba enhanced. If I can get off my ass and start spotting. Yeah, that'd be nice. Anything you guys want to rant about.

I'm going to go babysit. I already ran. So we'll be off next week, but back after the Daytona 500 on February 17th. Awesome. So you have, basically, you can't talk about at all. We can't rant for like two more weeks, so. I'm sure we'll have something to rant about when we come back. So you got a new crew chief.

So do you. Are you sweating? Holy. I'm on steroids. Hey there. He's got no boobloat like I had a last. I'm on prednisone. I'm so hot in here.

So I sit on paper. I mean, you tell me what you think, but on paper, with the crew chief swat. I feel like you got the best guy. What do you think? I mean, just going, looking at the stats. I mean, from the guys of proven winner every year for champion. Yeah, I mean, if you're going to swap,

I think Paul's got the best track record. Why did they make that swap? I have no idea. When I got the call about it, I was surprised. But, you know, when I heard who our crew chief was going to, to be. I was, okay, well, we're going to be fine. You know, I think we could have made whatever work, but how many races you win last year? Three or four, maybe. That's a lot. Brad didn't win, but one? No, Brad won like two or three as well. Yeah, he won, I think he went three. I saw where he

basically publicly said that him and most of the drivers weren't fans of the short track package that they had. So, and I was surprised to see it, honestly. Didn't he? He won Martinsville, didn't he? Yeah, he won He led like 490 less. Oh, yeah. He killed him. Yeah, the spring race. Yeah. I was surprised by the swab, but I was just curious why you thought it happened.

Um, I don't know. I thought we've been, I thought we've been very strong. The 22's been very strong, I think, um, one race from making it to Homestead again. Uh, but yeah, I don't know. I'm looking forward to it. Uh, yeah. I've known Paul. Yeah, I've known Paul since he started with Brad.

So not a big transition there for you, personality-wise. No. And I think Paul's kid goes the same school and stuff as well. So, I mean, I know Paul have been, you know, texting quite frequently here and looking forward to it. Yeah. Looking forward to it. We got Johnny Klausmeier on the 14. And I've known Johnny forever.

He was actually at Stuart Haas, the very first year they opened the doors, left DEI to go over there. But I've never worked with him. And, man, I've been around him some past few weeks, man, awesome guy, upbeat guy. Yeah. I was not surprised. You see why these guys are crew chiefs while they get there. Yeah, engineer guy, fun guy. I was not surprised that we saw swaps at Stuart Haas

because if you look back two years ago, every single car won a race, every driver won a race. And then you look at last year, the only driver to win a race at Stuart Haas racing was Kevin Harvick. And when you literally struggle to get three and four cars in the playoff out of a 16-car playoff with what Stuart Haas brings to the table, you're not winning races,

you're not leading laps, you're struggling to make the playoff, you've got to make personnel changes. And I think it's awesome to see Booga get to stay a crew. chief because he's a very intelligent guy, very good engineer. And so I think you get to keep, with Penske, too, you get to keep all those, the Brainiacs together. You just kind of shake it up a little bit and hope you get better results. Listen, they, I trust everything they do. They don't do it. I mean, they got a lot of really smart people there. And, you know, I trust they feel like this

will be the best. So, I mean, let's roll with it. Now, both of your situations, it's a full team swap, right? Like you had the whole 10 team from last year. You have the whole two team. Like it's all, it's not just the crew chiefs or you don't know. No, it's basically, it's me and Joey are going to the two car. Yeah. But where they're going to be the 22. And me and Clint are going to the 10 car, but they put number 14 on the side of it. Yeah. Yeah. Pit crew, everything. Yeah. I mean, we went and had a little team vent deal at GoPro and all the picker guys stuff were there and we all separated it out. And it was fun. We did a little 45-minute endurance race, and they basically put the littlest guy with the biggest guy.

We were the Twin Peaks. Of course he did. I'll tell you one. I didn't pick the spot, Casey. But it was Bikini Day. Lunch with a view. The one biggest effect, I think this crew swap is going to be where is Joey probably can't start any fights anymore

because Mule won't be there to drag whoever's off. Every time Joey got into stuff, you'd always see Mule right in the middle of it. Yeah. I feel like you'll still be around I'm sure you will Well as always Thank you all so much for listening

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