Door Bumper Clear - 165 – Keep on Winning

Episode Date: March 9, 2020

Four races into the 2020 NASCAR season and Door Bumper Clear picked up its second victory as Joey Logano and T.J. Majors brought home the win from Phoenix Raceway. T.J. joins Brett Griffin, Freddie Kraft, Casey Boat, and Jason Schultz to discuss everything from another winning weekend. Major changes were made to improve the quality of racing at Phoenix and they discuss the details and why it all worked. Wild restarts make spotting a challenge in the desert and the guys explain how they guide their drivers through the chaos. Ty Gibbs wore sunglasses during his post-ARCA race interview on Friday night and Brett called him out on Twitter, and he shares why he didn’t like it. NASCAR announced the 2021 Busch Clash will run on the Daytona road course and Brett discusses why he thinks the drivers won’t want to race it. Freddie’s driver Bubba Wallace got back on the lead lap by the end of Sunday’s race and Freddie shares Bubba’s hilarious reaction. Plus, Brett tells the story of the time he called the manager of a restaurant while sitting at a table, and much more.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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I'm Casey Boat and we got three spotters on the show today including race winner TJ Majors to help us break down everything from Phoenix They'll cover the impact of the new arrow package PJ1 and new tire at Phoenix Spotting the wild restarts AI technology in NASCAR and so much more Thanks for making the great decision to check us out here we go I'm PJ majors this is Brent Griffin Get ready be ready be ready be ready Hey, play. You know what you got here.

New leader. I'll watch out for this guy. White flag. Reconna. Hello. Clear. Bring home. Good.

Coming to the line. Door. Bumper. Clear. Yo, yo. Freddie Kraft here, Spotter, Bubba Wallace. Had the old David star this week. Here were a couple of my buddies today.

I am so excited because we finally get a break from Brett. Casey, you know how you got this job? You remember who. hired you. Jason, I thought we were on the same side of year. You were a great help with helping me get this job. I don't know how you lost your last job, but I'm going to tell you how you're going to lose this one. I literally make.

It's by saying shit like that. I make one comment, one comment last week. I just want you to own it. That's all. One comment. Yeah, I had to deal with six months of wedding photo comments. Brett Griffin's spotter for Clint Boyer. This is my show.

I'm on the T-shirt, door bumper clear. And we also have a guest host here today, maybe her last show. How far long are you, by the way? You love me. You know you do. How far long are you? Oh, 15 weeks. I was talking to Freddie.

I'm going on about 10 years now. I don't know how long this takes. Hey, I'm sleep deprived. This may be a hell of a show today. You need to go home. I need to go to sleep. That's a fact. We were trying to get home last night and our plane broke again.

I saw Clint tweeted it that he got home at 4 o'clock. I actually got on the second. at plane that was coming in. I got home at like, I think, at what time are we texting at two? About two o'clock. Yeah, two when I landed, got home at 2.30 or whatever it was. Went to bet at 4.30? Yeah, I said, I would have bet a 4. Couldn't sleep, you know, just jacked up.

Five-hour energy. He's been on West Coast for 10 days. You had a good run, too, so it's a good reason to be jacked up. Yeah, it was good. It was good run, man. I thought, you know, Phoenix is just fun. I mean, we obviously ran into Blake Shelton on Thursday night. Went to his concert. And I'm going to tell you guys, best country concert, you'll ever see. And it's because he has so many

different generations of country music in there. He's got the Bellamy brothers with him. He's got some new chick. I'm sorry, I'm not good with names. Was it Elena? Elena, Lauren Elena. Lauren Elena. Yeah, she's good. I've heard that name. Yeah, I don't know what she says. She's on the radio a lot. So I mean, he's got New Country there. He's got Bellamy

brothers. He's got John Anderson. He's got Trace Atkins and those guys. I mean, Freddie will tell you, they jammed. Yeah, I mean, and the way Blake laid that show out or whoever's idea that was great. It was Blake's idea. Because Blake's idea, because Blake, like, instead of having an opening act, and, hey, right on time. T.J's here. Him and Lugano stopped in Nashville overnight and partied all night, so he's running a little late today. Just getting home. Welcome to the show there, feature winner.

Sit his on his way back to get you. Somebody had to come get us. But anyway, so Blake lays this show out to where instead of having, like, Laura and Elena girl came out and played like 45 minutes or so, but then Blake played for three hours. and then like in his set he would bring these guys out for three songs. So it wasn't like you were sitting there watching John Anderson, then the Bellamy brothers, and so, and then Blake came on. It was one big show of Blake with these guys come out and play two or three songs at a time.

But yeah, John Anderson, one of the things I'll never forget is old John Anderson playing Seminolewyn coming up out of the stage. That was pretty bad. That was cool. What's up, TJ? Hey, buddy. Congrats. Congratulations. Thanks.

We're just doing intro so you can just intro yourself now. Yeah, the show took that long that we're still on intros. Seriously? Who are you? Good. Tired. Times you go home. Well, just talk about that. My plane broke again. I feel really bad because I kind of... We asked for that last week.

Yeah. We're three for three on West Coast trips. We had a problem to Vegas. Then we had a problem coming home, Fontana, and then we had a problem coming home for Phoenix. You're only two for three because you weren't on it on the way home. Thank goodness. Isn't that a sign they should be checking things out?

I don't know how planes work. They're finicky. Like one little thing happens, they won't take off. You know what I mean? One little thing happens, you land immediately. Like, it doesn't always have to be. I think last night it was like a sensor or something.

Yeah, don't take, if anything's wrong, they won't take off. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm good with that plan. Yeah. I don't think. I don't think. No, I don't want to fly with cowboys. You don't see a lot of smart old pilots. Was it bumpy yesterday?

Smart young. Was it? Not, no. Mine was bumping. Yeah, I was going to say. I heard it was going to be, but our guys did great with that. Maybe you missed it all. Maybe it was that.

You might have been. It's just late enough. Where did y'all stop for fuel? Tulsa. Well, we either go to Amarillo and break down or Oklahoma City. That's our breakdown. That's our two stops. One more than the other?

No, we're 50-50. You have bad luck in Amarillo, don't you? I've spent a night literally in Oklahoma City FBO. And last night, we were going to Oklahoma City but stopped short in Amarillo, which is where we had a flat tire on the way to Vegas. So travel adventures, man. That's part of the job, though. People say, what's the toughest part about your job?

I'm like flying. We've been asking for softer tires. We got them. Casey, some people brought us some food today. Yes. Well, first off, shout out to Zach Wagner for bringing me pizza last week. Oh, yeah. Thanks, Zach.

Appreciate it. It went a long way. He brought you pizza? Oh, yeah. Papadjohn's me. Where? Here. Last week.

Delivered. After the show. She had no about this. Wow. Yeah, he picked it up for me. Oh. It was great. Wow.

And today, Jonathan Corwin brought us donuts. He did say there for everyone but Casey. What? Wow. I like this guy. Yeah. Seriously? Like, what?

Okay, I don't understand. I got so much crap for making one comment about Brett. Yet six months last year, I had to deal with wedding photo. Like, I don't understand. Six months, we had to deal with it for like over a year. That's because everybody was on my side, Casey. No, a lot of people were on my side. T.J.

You had a donut. Make you feel bad. Casey, I think you look great today. I like the red jacket and stuff. Thank you. That makes one person be nice. Great riding hood. What did I do?

You were nice, too. Okay. Just checking. Wow. I'm glad you're here, and I'm glad you got your pizza, and you can have my donuts if you want them. Thank you. Who is this guy? Who is you and what you do with T.J. Majors?

Sleep deprived? Yeah, this is what happens when you don't even asleep. How was your race, jackass, and how did you kick our ass? I don't think we kicked everyone's ass, but we were, uh, no, you didn't. I mean, Joey gets up on the wheel, man, when he, when he's got to. And racing Brad and Kevin, uh, it's hard to beat them guys. Kevin was the fastest car, I think. Did you screw me in turn two on a restart?

I saw you. I don't think I screwed you. I saw you two arguing about this. What the hell are you talking about? We weren't arguing about that. No, we were arguing about something else. We were arguing about a lineup that NASCAR got wrong. Oh. So, yeah.

So, on a restart. there at the very end, Joey was pushing the two, and they got a really good jump. And obviously, teammates working together. And when the caution came out, Joey, which is the same exact thing that happened to me in Daytona, the lineup was the two, the 22, the 14. And NASCAR called out 14 in front of the 22. Well, TJ was looking at me. You know I was in front of you.

And I walked down there. And I said, you remember Monday morning after Daytona 500, I told you we were supposed to be fourth. was supposed to be fifth. We were ahead of them when the caution flew. This is the exact same scenario. And TJ was like, well, it's not right. It was a long time. It wasn't just like 10 feet right there. Like we were ahead of him, probably leaving the dog leg. Like we have all this technology in the world, this SMT technology, this GPS technology, but NASCAR goes back to the previous scoring loop. And I'm really sorry, but at the end of a race like that, man, that's, it

It pisses you off. I mean, obviously it worked out for Joey because he was still on the bottom on the next restart, which was probably a good thing. Brad's on a little bit older. I'd have taken my chances on the front row with better tires than Brad. Yeah, Brad's on a little bit older tires, but he's controlling the restart. And he's a Mickey Mouse restarter anyway. You never know what he's going to do.

He'll break check. He went one time one car length before the restart zone. You know, like you never know what he's going to do. I think they're all. You kind of notice tendencies and like, okay, if they go early this time, they go late the next time and then after that you're like yeah you don't know where they're going to go the third time so um but yeah i was a little irritated because i wanted to be on the front row with better tires because i felt like we could race brad a little harder that way um it's better to already it's better to

be beside the guy than to have to get beside him because once you get once you get sole position of the front of the field you can kind of do what you want and it makes it easier so i wanted to be able to race Brad, but we were when I, we were, we were literally and had to Clint probably leaving the dog leg and we, I know we were clear before we got the turn, or not clear, but we were in front of you before we got to turn one and we were in front of you all the way until the caution came out. And I was like, surely there is a scoring loop between the start, finish line and turn two

and the middle of turn one and two. And I wanted to go back and look at the video, but I haven't got to see it yet. Yeah, I want to go back and look at the video to see if you screwed me. And Jason couldn't find the right video yet. Well, I'll just go to it. I'll go look at SMT and show you. We were outside of Joey, and again, this is all happening fast at real life speed. Are you sure you were there?

And Joy just kept coming up, up, up, up, up, up. We ended up kind of in the shit. You know, when you end up up there, it was loose. You couldn't throttle up. Then we ended up three while with Kevin, who we hit. Then we had tire smoke for the next five or six laps bad. Thankfully, it went away. And obviously we went on to the top five, but it definitely took away our chance at the top three.

Joey was, I remember counting them down because you're kind of doing a slaps. job when you clear somebody we clear clinton where it's like sliding up i'm like one back half half outside clear he didn't out part well he was making an executive decision i'll probably paid off i'm i mean maybe you guys just way better at this to me but off of turn two yesterday when them guys running the top was difficult yeah like it's always difficult i mean it's always been hard but like when they're all running the top and like a guy's trying to plug the hole out like you're running a lane off the wall and they're trying to run right in the grip and they're trying to plug that hole up top I was probably driving above crazy.

He just kept counting down runs. Makes it really hard when your guys run on the very bottom or something and the other guys run on the very top. So you got a gap and you're like, I think the hardest part is if your crew chief is on the pit box straightaway and he's looking at it and he's got the perfect angle and you're like, outside. And then they come off the corner and the guy's nowhere near him

and you're like, clear high. And the crew chief's like, wow, Spotter, you suck. Yeah, good job. We're clear by five right there. But at the same time, you don't want to wreck your guy. Like there's a lot of places I don't mind spotting aggressively. That's a place where it coming off turn two, like Freddie said. And I still call it turn four because they got that.

They got that stripe across the backstretch. Like, take that off. I call that the front stretch the whole time. I almost said leader now at one point based on that damn line that runs across the backstretch. I cannot get it through my head that that's, that they flop the track. I definitely called them wrong corners a couple times still. I'm glad I wasn't the only one. I think everybody does it.

But that corner, I definitely didn't clear Joey a couple times off there when we were probably clear. I definitely didn't. I mean, you can't. You can't. Well, then think about this. My guy ran the bottom all day. I know. I made it easy. I mean, what did he have against the grip? But I was having a really spot turn to, like you would do

what you were doing on restarts. I was doing the whole race because he wouldn't get off the bottom. He just said his car wouldn't turn in the PJ1. So man, he ran it like the old feeling. It was working. You know, we had speed. So I knew Joey was fast when he got a penalty or whatever happened there and he went to the back. And next thing you know, he's running

ninth at the end of that stage or whatever he drove up to. I did find it a little gratifying running you down and getting that extra stage point from you. If he can come from the back to the top ten, you know, at Phoenix, A, that's a good sign that we've got a good product. And B, he's obviously got a fast car. Do I think that the 22 was the best car yesterday? No, I actually think the four was. Yeah. But it took him about 10 laps to get going.

The nine was stupid fast. I thought the nine was. And then all of us like, I looked at him. Then I got up like fourth or something. I got on that last run after the- He leveled out right there. And all of a sudden, he just stopped. Like, that was...

Honestly. I looked at his times, and he was running, like, the same time, like 40s, and we were running, like, a couple tens faster. I'm like, eh, I'm not too worried right now. I wonder what he's getting away with in tech or figuring out how to get through tech or something, because he's always faster than these other hindered cars. And I know Chase Selle is a good race car driver, but so are the other three guys. Yeah.

I don't know. I know Phoenix is one of Chase's better tracks, too, though. He's always been good there. You know, you look at, yeah, Phoenix is one of Chase's better tracks. he's always fast there He's got a crew chief that'll really push an envelope too I mean he's a Cole Byrne he's a Chad Canaus He's a Brian Patty

You know those kind of guys He's like your crew chief What's your crew chief's name? Paul? Paul yeah he's a guy that'll push the envelope Yeah Paul Paul doesn't really push too hard He's pretty

He won't As fast as your car was He's pushing a little bit He's pushing something You know Paul's pretty He's pretty plain But there are guys Like I can

You know Whatever Allen's got figured out for plate races too, even with it being his teammate. Yeah. You know, we don't know them. We're racing each other for the pole and Daytona and stuff, you know. He just, he's got his tricks, man. He's good.

Yeah. I will say I was very impressed with Tyler Redick yesterday. Yeah, this is, this is exactly what we said. He's going to have higher peaks, but then he's going to mess up and there's going to be lower lows. I think he blew a tire. Yeah. I thought he could have won, honestly. Looking, on TV, that's

I don't think he could have won. I don't think he was going to win, but he could have had a top five. Look, we've been racing slot cars all year last year. We went to Phoenix last year and put on two of the worst races we ever have in NASCAR history. Now they've put it back in the driver's hands. That plays to a guy like Tyler Reddick,

who likes to go in there, stop the car, get it rotated, get back on the gas. It was slick. You know, the cars were moving around. You'd see them get loose. Like, that plays in a guy like his hands. And it becomes a driver's racetrack. That's the best thing that could have happened,

not the wreck part, but the best thing that could have happened to Tyler Redick was be around them guys racing. He was racing with Kyle Busch, Martin Truex. You know, he was racing around guys that win races. I'll tell you what else he did, TJ, a couple weeks ago at Vegas, he raced us like an idiot. And he texted me after the race, and he was like, hey, I'm sorry, give me Clint's number. I want to talk to him. And of course, Clint's something.

Because when you catch a guy three times and get position, and he just, keeps hanging on your right rear for 10th halfway through a race. A veteran doesn't race you like that because that's what puts you in a position to get wrecked. But he realized he was smart enough to realize after the race, man, I shouldn't have done that. And for a rookie that's only two races in at that point to realize that, that's a big deal. He's got a lot to learn this year. But his ceiling's high right now. He's got a high ceiling.

I want to get him on the show. Let's do it. He'd be fun in here. Because he's a funny dude. He is actually. He's very funny on Twitter at times. Oh, yeah. He's got that dry humor.

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This one is for Brett. Impact of lower downforce package, PJ1 changes, and you tire on Phoenix Racing Surface. spot on on every single thing that you just said we saw and Clint and I were talking about this on the plane I thought I saw the best race cup race I've ever seen at Phoenix and it may be because last years were so bad but when you look at what the cars were doing what the drivers were having to do like it from where we stood it literally looked like it was fun to race Phoenix again we weren't running slot cars we weren't wide open with that high down force the corner here's the key the corner speeds were lower

therefore that allows Goodyear to make a tire that'll wear out. When we see lap times fall off, we've been screaming on this show for last couple years about we need tires that'll wear out. Well, they can if they're running wide open through the center of the corner. Good Year can't build a tire that good. So it's awesome to see the engineering changes to put us in a position, A, for a good championship race, which we now have, but B, a short track product, which is what we all. Man, I can't wait for Martinsville, Richmond. I mean, I'd love to see this package, literally, any short track in America.

because it was spot on yesterday. Spot on, but I want to see more. I've watched a lot of race replays heading to there, and this was really characteristic to 2017, minus the PJ1. I think the PJ1 helped out a lot. But I want to see more still. I want to see them struggle and slowing down on the corners

a little bit more still. That's low horsepower, though. Yeah, but... I mean, how are you going to do that? I don't know, man. Take a spoiler all the way off. I don't know. You know, I didn't see as many guys from the replays that I saw.

Guys could get each other loose into the corners a little bit more in 17, which was a similar package, arrow-wise. But definitely all step in the right direction. So spot on for the changes they've made so far. I personally would like to see a little bit more still. Not sure how to do it, but... I mean, one-homberston spot-on racing-wise. We've seen guys crashing yesterday.

Denny Hamlin goes in the corner and crashes, wipes out to two-pansky cars. Spot on for pitch strategy coming back into play. Like, we have a tire that wears out now. So now we have differing strategies to where guys are staying out. Okay, that didn't work. Now I got to come back in and get my tires, see if I can drive back up there.

So just different stuff going on in the race now for people to, you know, you always want comers and goers. We've talked about for years, tires wearing out. And that's what that creates is more racing, better racing. Just guys pushing the envelope on restarts causing wrecks. You know what I mean? Like, it was just a better race. race overall I felt like yeah when you got to decide two tires four tires no tires and comers and goers

dude that was fun that's that's freaking fun in the exfini race if justin algaat gets a caution with 15 to go he is going to destroy the field yeah yeah and you know we saw that happening yesterday's race too we saw some guys pit but the bad part about it is cautions breed cautions at that point and if you get too many cautions after the cost that you need really hurt your chances and that's what we kept happened, it kept happening yesterday. But definitely great that that's actually a strategy play now. Yeah. Like, it's awesome. That's where I'm curious, like to me, man, like I came in yesterday 7th and I came off pit road 15th. And I'm not saying it can't happen with single lug nut next year. But the reality is it's going to be a lot easier to change tires next year. So I feel like if we come in,

you know, if Freddie's running second, T.J.'s running third and I'm running fourth. First of all, be a miracle. Freddy's running second. But if he's running a second, third, and fourth, the likelihood of us coming off pit road second, third, and fourth is going to be a lot higher. There's two things I don't think people are talking about with a slug-knit thing. A, it's that that we're not going to see the race on an off-pit road be as crazy as it is now because the room for air is going to be a lot lower.

The second thing is, what does it do for cost to the Xfinity Series teams and the truck series teams? Are these cup teams going to let their tire changers go out and, you know, and only change a single lug on Sunday, but on Saturday the day before, they're going to be out there hitting five lugs, right? And two, is that skill level going to be as high as it is now on the cup side?

I mean, those guys make a lot of money. They make triple what spotters make. And we're not out here starving at death, guys. But are they going to need to pay them that much money for single lugs? So there's a lot of variables. I know you guys talked about it last week. I wasn't here,

but that's things that I'm worried about. You hungry? No, I mean, chicken nuggets. Yeah. I mean, to me, the Jackman is going to become more important. Getting around the car changing the, you know, your Jackman is going to, you're going to have to have a great A Jackman. Because the stops are going to be faster and you're going to need a guy that can get around the car. I think tire changers are still going to be important, but there's way less room for air right now.

Do you leave with a tire carrier? Way more room for air right now if you're only hitting. 100%. So I still think it's going to be important to have a fast one. but I think you're going to see more penalties next year on pit road as well as far as the guy is speeding because you're probably going to be trying to take advantage of not that we don't already but now you're going to you're going to be trying to get more that's where you're going to find it the guy that pushes the envelope a little bit on we have the most unique form of a pit stop in the entire world

as far as motorsports go and we've just changed the formula and the new formula is going to create a lot more consistency with how you're going to you're going to be how you're going to you're You're going to come off pit road a lot like how you came on it versus now. Yeah, for sure. I mean, you're going to still, I don't know, I got to see it first. It's hard to. I don't have to see it first. I've already got my opinion.

On paper, it looks like it's going to be that way. I got ESPN. All right, next topic. Alex Bowman nearly turns Joey Lugano on restart with 30 to go. T.J. Why are we talking about nearly? Nothing rough. It's a short track.

People hit, stuff like that. There was people that actually made contact. And we could talk about that before this. It's when you go a cross start-finish sign. The races on end. Yeah. And everyone hangs the left. And I was counting Alex down.

I'm like, you know, halfback. He's getting ready to turn left. Like, get ready. He's looking inside. And Joey's watching, I'm sure. That's the first block I've really seen you try to throw all year. I'm surprised. I know.

Work, didn't it? So somebody's going to get sick of that. Somebody's going to get sick of that eventually. I mean, that happened I mean, that happened to every restart almost. I mean, we were five wide one time.

That was five wide in the last one. Even Joey's like, did you say three inside or one inside, three outside? I'm like, yeah. Or something like that. It was ridiculous. Follow by good luck.

Yeah, I don't know. I think you're clear. Hold of a beer. Yeah. I didn't see this, so I have no, I have no opinion on it. I can't.

Spot on. 22 chopped 88, 88, 88 let him have it. 88 could have rectumated it. That's what happened. There we go. Done. Cole Pern's tweet about the RTA, and Jason, you want to read this one? Colpern tweeted last night, interesting.

Everyone loves this rules package. This is what NASCAR basically wanted for last year until the RTA cocked it up. Coct it up. Cocked it up. He must be a game cocked up. South Carolina fans. Go Cox. Spot on, spot off, Freddie.

I mean, Spot off. I mean, now you're throwing shots from the cheap sheets, I think. But, you know, this is a cost-effective deal for the owners last year. They didn't want to build two separate race cars for these packages. Now we've kind of tweaked the car we have to make this package a little better. So, I mean, I don't know. Like, they did something positive here to make the racing better,

and now you're going to take shots out of now. Like, I think it's a shot at the owners probably more so than NASCAR. But, you know, I don't know. I don't see the value in it. I don't know I don't know about the RTA and all that stuff It stands for a race team alliance

I know but I don't know The owners get together and basically form a union I know that but I don't know how Like he probably knows more internal information about this Than what No I think so you probably know You probably knows much I don't know

I mean it's kind of I guess spot off because you're You know This is what This is what made you enough money to get away and go make the life that you have now, and now you're going to turn around and bash it, you know? I'm spot on.

It's his Twitter and say whatever he wants. True that? Well. And Freddie's right, though. The reality is NASCAR wanted us to have two separate pack, two separate cars, okay? A car for downforce tracks and a car for non-down-force tracks, and owners like Richard Childress and others in the RTA,

said, we can't afford to do that. And NASCAR said, okay, we'll give you one car. So we screwed up our short track system. We screwed up our road races in an attempt to make our oval and downforce, high downforce, fast racetracks a better product. And we suffered. Phoenix, the stands yesterday were relatively, they were the most empty I've seen them in a very long time. And it's because of what we did last year. So now we fixed that problem.

I can foresee the fall, if not already being sold out, certainly being sold out. The sponsors that I work with are buying suites there for the fall. and after the Xfinity race was great, the cup race was great. I mean, you guys know me, I'm going to tell you like it is. That was an awesome weekend of racing. Next topic. Ty Gibbs wore sunglasses in his post-race ARCA interview Friday night at Phoenix because he had tears in his eyes. Brett, we know you already have something to say about it, so spot on, spot off.

Kick the kid in the balls. Let me say this. I don't watch a lot of ARCA races, and I was not watching this ARCA race. The first thing that I actually saw that caught my attention is that it was dark outside where I was at. And I knew the race was in Phoenix. You didn't need to call him out for it. And I see Ty Gibbs being interviewed on TV at night wearing his sunglasses. I wear my sunglasses.

So here's the reality. Why? So I tweeted, why is this kid wearing sunglasses, essentially, where everybody sent back that he was crying. I really like your disclaimer on your tweet. by the way. Well, so I made fun of an NFL coach one time for wearing sunglasses at a night game, and everybody's like, well, he's got an eye disease or something crap. So the last thing I want to do is catch crap for some medically induced eye problem.

Maybe you should just lay off sunglasses. Yeah, or just lay off people. Maybe it'd be nicer. I'm not laying off people. So anyway, I'm like, why is Ty wearing sunglasses? Everybody's like, well, he's crying. I was like, oh, no, he's crying? We only have, Freddie and I live by two rules.

Rule number one is don't be a wuss. Is that what the rules? Rule number two, you can change the first letter of the word was. Rule number two is don't forget rule number one. He can't cry after a race on TV. I mean, it's an arc of race. Come on. Leave him alone. Spot off.

Hey, I like this kid. I really do. He has passion. He works hard. Don't cry. You're such a jerk. I'll tell you what, if you're going to cry, cry on television. Cry.

Cry. People want to see that. People want to see the emotion. Yeah. This was, I want to say, like, maybe these younger guys need to start working. I'm sure they do already. I'm sure somebody like Ty does for sure. But like the media side of stuff, like the one kid got out and just destroyed his team

after winning the championship last year. Mayor, Sam Mayer, he won a bunch of races and was fast. He was in the top five and I don't know anything blew up or something. And he got out and bashed the owner, bash the team to where he had to apologize for it the next day because it was live on FS1. But I mean, just like if you're that upset about it, like don't try to hide it. Let's let people see it. People want to see the emotion in your sport.

I agree. Yeah, that's the thing. If you're, yeah, show it. I went on his Twitter before I sent that tweet. Oh, boy. And I was like, I'm going to see how many. Let me tell you some. Brett does this all the time, by the way.

Go ahead. I'm sorry. This is also where I found that awful, God, awful picture of Ty Gibbs. That you also decided to tweet to the world. Luckily for him, Dale Jr. jumped in on the bandwagon and was like, yeah, you don't want to take pictures like this time. But anyway, I'm a marketing guy, right? So I start messing with Ty. and I'm like, I'm going to look at his Twitter followers.

So I look, and he had like the 4,692 followers. He'd increased his Twitter followers by 10% as of yesterday. And he had a look, listen, he and I were texting on the other side of this thing after he told me he was upset and he was mad at ARCA and blah, blah, blah. Freddie, why don't you explain what, can you explain what happened in that race? Because you know. So, I mean, it blew up on Twitter, obviously. And if you're watching the race, like they, so ARCA has implemented a form.

It might be the same exact thing of pit stops to where it's, I think it's going to be super similar to the non-companying Xfinity and truck pit stop plane. That would be fun. So what the rule is, the rule is you cannot fuel and put tires on at the same time. So you can change two tires, stop changing tires, get off the car, gas man goes over the wall, fuels the car. Now, if you want to put four tires on, you have to leave pit road and come back to pit road and put two more tires on. But if you come to Pit Road, so like the three of us...

I'm already confused. I know. Same. The three of us come to Pit Road and we're first, second, and third. Now, I'm first, your second, Brett's third. We all put two tires on. Leave Pit Road. Brett's first, your second.

I'm third. I get the lead back. There's no changing positions on Pit Road. Unless I come back in for the other two tires and you guys stay out. Now I'm behind you. Okay. But one stop for free. One stop for free.

But if we all stop again the second time, I still come out of head of you no matter what. So basically it's if you stay out, you're headed, you're first. I don't see where this could get confusing at all. The poor kid's in the car trying to figure it out. If you take two tires, you line up behind the guys that stayed out. If you take four tires, you line up behind the guys take two tires. But they do not have an electronic scoring system in place to track this. So they are hand scoring who pits once, who pits twice,

who, whatever. We're bringing scores back. On top of that. Shisho. So it was a bit of a mess. And I don't fault NASCAR for this because it was their first race at a big track doing this. And they've got their hands full. They don't, they've never done it before.

So now on top of that, you've got us drivers and spotters that are like, well, screw it. They don't know what the hell's going on. I'm going to take every position I can. I'm second. No, you're sixth. I'm going to line up second. Make you make me. So the only thing I had a long talk with Desan yesterday about it who called the race.

He's one of our series. And a great guy. Yeah, he's awesome. And the only thing I was critical with him about was, like, they let it go on for too long. Like, these guys are jockeying for position. I said, next time, just, hey, get here or you're last, or we're bringing in the pits. Like, you go where we tell you, or you're done. Like, we're not going to run around here because they ran around for seven or eight laps with 15 to go and compromise the end of the race.

But, you know, I mean, and that tie, that was one of the things Ty he was upset about because he put four tires on and had a restart behind everybody. and then they ran all these laps out. He only had like six or seven laps to get back to the lead, and he ended up losing the race. So, I mean, that's why he was upset. But, I mean, it was a... I've seen a blow up on Twitter, obviously, and people were killing NASCAR about it.

I mean, you've got to be a little patient with it. Obviously, they probably need to have a little better system in place, but, I mean, give them a little bit of a break because it was the first time they've done it. Just don't cry for it and go your way. Just on talk about any, like, what they'll change to fix it? I don't know. Like, he said when they do it for the truck and Xfinity series,

they will have transponders. Some kind of technical support for it on pit road so they can tell who's been on once, who's been on twice. This reminds me of when they first implemented the stage. Remember all the caution last we burnt? Now we don't really burn. Well, I don't know. Yesterday we burned a lot. It was nine and ten, the two stages.

It was, I mean, they're fairly quick now compared to what they started out. Yeah. But I still don't understand. I still don't understand. And I think it was more so in the Xfinity rates. I noticed it. Like, it was literally one was a 10-lap stage break. And I don't understand what the, I think it's, you come back.

back from, you know, we go to commercial on the break, then we come back for the pit stop, then we got to go back to commercials. So now that's four more, you know, that's three or four laps at a time. Yeah, that's four minutes. So, you know, so, I mean, I feel like they need to be shorter, but I mean, it's not, it's not the end of the world. Yeah. Go follow Ty Gibbs on Twitter. Granddad is obviously Joe Gibbs, great family, good people. I was just giving Ty shit. Oh, I reckon. Same with everybody else. Next topic. 21 Bush Clash to run on the Daytona Road course. Spot on, spot off, TJ.

I'd like a 15-lap race on the big track, but, you know, we're trying, we've been changing stuff up and it's been working, so it's going to be exciting, watching these guys run that road course. What's going to be exciting? Watching all these guys. 15 cars run a three-mile track.

Watching them all try to make turn one. It's going to be exciting. Yeah. Reservation for balls, party of two. Yep. Spot on. This is no longer. speed weeks. It's now speed week.

What is the purpose of this race, TJ, in your mind? What has it always been the purpose of this race? Paul winners, right? It's to promote the Daytona 500. It's to give you some foreshadowing as to how exciting this race may be. The challenge, I guess, is maybe, A, we are not going to be able to have enough Gen 7 cars to be able to go down and tear up 20 cars. Problem B is they're going to be teams that obviously don't qualify. So I say if that's, if we, if we, if we, if we, If problem A isn't the problem, let every single body run the Bush Clash for the first time ever because it is a new car. If we want to do something different, do that. It's the first race of 2021, and we're going to put the 2020 product with five lug nuts on the track.

From a marketing perspective, I don't even understand that. You know, is it something different? Yeah. Does it align with what we need to do for 2021 with a new car? That's where I've got a huge disconnect. I don't understand it. I understand your marketing side of it, but you can't give, to me, in the competition side, it's not fair to give those guys track time with a new car and not give everybody in.

Then run the old car and run it the same way, like you said, 15 laps, running like we've always run it. It should not be too long segments like it was because nobody's going to race in segment one and tear their car up, especially for an exhibition race. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Something had to be done because the race was terribly boring the last couple years. They just got single file to the last 20 laps anyway. I hope they throw the yellow with about five to go and invert the top 10. They have to do something because that road course is going to be strung out.

There's going to be, I don't think there's going to be much racing. But maybe it's take the backstretched chicane out. No, there's not one driver in that garage that wants to run this race. No, I mean, I don't know why you would. It's an expired car. It's a road course. It's for nothing. It's an exhibition.

I don't know how you fix it. Like, I think, like, I was on board with TJ. I think your 15, 20 lap would have been great. but then you have I got a buddy of mine Scott Tapley who wears me out about he does his own little radio show up there in Maine he's a race director at every local short track and he wears me out about every damn detail on this show but like he's like I said something about I tweeted you know I wish it was a 20 lap race and you know just can TV you know right now they've probably got a two hour block for that race and now you're taking away from that because I said well I pretty sure the last 20 laps took two hours this year so I mean it'd be fine same thing but it has I want to know the real reason why I don't think we know. And I think it's going to be, I can't wait to see the schedule. Like, well, how long does it take to set this road course up? I mean, is it just cones?

Is there barriers? Like, are we going to be able to practice on Tuesday? Do you realize how many people camp on that road course? That is the overflow lot for the drivers for Exfinity and truck and Krup Cup crew chiefs. Fans park. Media parks there. That's where we park. Do you think this is a test for down the road?

At Daytona? I hope not. To see how it goes? I hope not. Not unless you're going to run a 24 hours on NASCAR. Yeah, I don't feel like they're struggling right now with... I'm just saying, I mean, what if... They didn't spend $400 million.

They didn't spend $400 million to renovate that place to go run that road course with us. No. I will say, they ain't buying it. Just thinking, I... Well, now NASCAR, SMI, you know, SMI had a ton of success around the Charlotte Road course. And so I'm wondering if they're just trying to switch up some of their NASCAR track. It also might... We got Daytona's got.

It also might... Agreed. Agreed. A bomb. Going to a new car, though, this might be just something because it's not, like you said, maybe there's not going to be enough cars ready to do that yet. Yeah. And you can't give some playing time with some teams and not give it everybody the time.

Again, A, say that. Yeah, I mean. B, we're going to run the old car and it's going to be twin. There's a lot of options. I'm just, man, I'm being a cynic about this, but, man, hurts my heart. I think there's going to be more to come around this one week, speed week. I really do. I love this. I love the check.

And people, I've seen another thing blow up on Twitter, people about the schedule. Like, it's essentially the same thing. We just took Saturday and Sunday and moved it back two days. Like instead the track being closed, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, now we just, we have activity there. We don't, so now as a fan, you don't have to be there for 12 days. You can go for eight days.

You know what I mean? So this has turned into a great camping weekend. You know, obviously. You can't camp on a road course. Not in that section right there, though. I mean, there's still plenty of places to camp there. You can't but gram of you But there

Where's that? What a great week for racing though There's so much racing Like I'm telling you What I tell you this is going to save you hundreds Yeah thank God This is going to save Freddie So normally I would go down

New Samarna Speed Weeks I would go down Thursday night At some point A week before the Daytona 500 And I would be there from Thursday All the way through Sunday And I would have to spot Friday night, Saturday night

All week at New Smyrna 10 days 10 days. No, you're talking about Thursday before the... I'm talking about Thursday before the clash. Yeah, I'm talking about, yeah, Thursday before the clash. Yeah, before the clash. So I'd be down there for 12, 13 days.

So, you know, obviously... Your liver feels like... Your liver felt like it was there. It's Megan's birthday, too, right then. That's like, like, Megan's birthday was the clash. I mean, the duel is here. Oh, Freddy, you're gone too much. Those 13 days, back like a...

At this, like, for the Daytona, like, by the time the off-season, she is ready for me to go. Like, I had been home for two months. She's ready for me to get the out of the house. Grandview. Last call. Oh, spot on, spot off, Freddie. This one is for you.

Brian France sues the guy running the drunk Brian France account. I think Brian France might have been drunk in Brian France when he came up with this idea to sue this guy. What the hell is going on on Twitter these days? Like, this we got guys suing parody accounts. We got this idiot husband tweeting to Kevin Harvick that his wife's going to win a truck raise. Like, just shut up.

Is that anywhere later in the show? I don't know. I don't even know that we want to talk about it just for the fact that we don't want to give him attention. We did rant about it. Listen to me, I will take that guy's $50,000 bet. I don't race trucks. Can I take that bet? I'll take his $50,000.

So what I understand from the bet, it was you got a truck swap with her. Kyle Bush gets in her truck. She gets in Kyle's truck. She's going to outrun Kyle. Yeah, I'll take that $50,000. I bet. This car won't let me, but if they would let me, I'll match it. I'll tell you what.

I got a buddy that don't take it. I thought about having Hamlin make me some proposals to shut out, sponsors, man. Yeah. I mean, Jesus. And then he said, he made a comment, like, I don't know how much you went into this. Like, he started making comments about Delana's weight. Like, yeah. It got, it got.

I don't think we've seen this guy's profile picture. He don't need to make a phone about waiting. I think we've already, yeah. I think we've already given them too much. Anyway, drunk of Brian Francis. I am actually spot on for this deal. Of course you are. And here's why.

That drunken Brian Frankskeye on Twitter, he shut the fuck up. He ain't tweeted in three days. This guy lives in Georgia. He usually comes to the racetrack in Atlanta. I know some guys that are buddies with him. I haven't personally met him. But these crew guys leak him, you know, stories, and he'll kind of use that to get new followers. And he goes out there and bashes all the drivers.

Don't be a . If you're going to do that, rule number one. What I tell you, rule number one? It was a wuss. Don't be a wuss. Don't be a wuss. Sorry. If you're going to do it, do it from your own account.

These clowns that act like the whole parody account thing of other humans drives me nuts. Do I think the orange cone guy's an idiot? Absolutely. But he's not a parody account because an orange cone doesn't have a brain. He's just some fictional account, right? Which is the same thing that NASCAR chasm is. He has some awesome tweets. I'm talking about these people who have, they don't have a life.

They drive me nuts. So the fact that this billionaire is going after this guy to shut him up, I think it's funny as hell. I love it. I'm going to start drunken Brett Griffin. I'm going to sue your ass. They'll give you the phone when you're drunk and let you start to sue your ass. You'll just tweet all of them, honestly. I just retweet all Brett's drunken tweets.

I think there's a better way to handle this if you're, you know, I think maybe just a cease and desist, please, let her and be done with it. But then what would we talk about? I'm sure that's what they'll end up happening realistically. What will we talk about if that happened? I love this drama. I think it's awesome. Between this and the guy, the truck guy, this week has had plenty of it. I see the best part to come out of this was all the funny tweets from like the other parody accounts,

like the Hendrick ones, like just for the record, I hope you guys know I'm not Rick Hendrick. You know, like, like to like, you know, disclaimers now all of a sudden. But, but I mean, geez, what a bunch idiots. I'll block them. Every time a parody accounts tweet to me, block. I don't care if they tweet anything. Great. Nice, rude.

I don't get off my timeline. Get a life. I think there's more people on your blocked list than there is on your, you know, people you follow list. I think I'm second at the Jim Utter. I heard he blocks. everybody. I thought TJ blocked everybody. I don't have anybody.

TJ blocks everybody in real life. Oh, oh, you're talking on Twitter. You're not too easy. All right, moving on to probably my favorite topic of the day. Blake Shelton's pre-race video about Clint Boyer. And I'm also going to hang around here and watch my buddy Clint lose. Sorry, Clint, you suck. Oh, my gosh.

Spot on, spot off Brett. I love this guy, man. Blake and they are always taking shots at each other publicly. And it's always great when you have a guy like Blake Shelton at a racetrack. Blake Shelton has 20 million followers on Twitter. So when you have a personality that big at the racetrack, it's awesome. His bus driver Kelly is a big fan of our show. He listens every time.

He said people literally come up to him about, man, what are you laughing at? Because he's listening to our show. But I think it's great. What I think I didn't really understand about yesterday is why did they introduce the back half with a field. Blake Sheldon Hicks. I did. Joey Gase.

It was, uh, I'm like, what? It was taking forever, but it was actually very entertaining. I remember Pitbull is on the stage and he's like, Timmy Hill. And Timmy wants to be like, Timmy. Pit bull looks more like a chihuahua, though. He does. I don't know. I don't know how he bites, but.

I don't think you can say that. Dude, he's not like a big pit bulls or tough dogs. That, that. intro though we needed that like at Daytona 500 or something with those two and introducing the drivers they just bring so much man but here's the thing guys when did you hear that they were coming to the racetrack when i saw them down there and that's a problem yeah that's a marketing PR disaster you've got two gigantic personalities and two different genres of music and you didn't tell anybody they were coming i had a double double check i'm like pit bull really and i found out thursday night i'm back

stage with Blake hanging out and he goes, I'm coming back Sunday. I'm like, for what? Watch Clint? He's like, now I'm doing some stuff for NBC in the track. I'm like, what? Yeah. I mean, how do I, I live in this industry? How do I not know this? I didn't know. I didn't know either one of them going to be. I thought the driver I mean, but if they were to announce it, what were they going to do? Like, they needed him obviously for for stuff. They would have sold more tickets maybe. That had to be. Like Sheltman's doing driver introses. Well, I mean, the intro's part, yes. That's probably the highlight of some of those guys, like, seasons so far. walking on that stage with Pitbull and Blake introducing them.

What's that next up? What's that kid drives that double zero? Huff. Huff. Quinn Huff, yeah. That's definitely Quinn Huff's highlight of his life. I see. Based on what I've seen him doing on track.

You're just so rude. He doesn't like. How many, how bitter they fired laying the castle? How many cars do they got left over there? Because they're going through them pretty quick. So this is the thing they're making the cars. They're getting a little bit harder to drive. Yeah.

Now you're seeing the drive. drivers happened to come out a little bit. Yeah, I know my guy put in a fence yesterday. Oh, damn it. It's the best, so he were here at the end of the race. So we're, we're, he. Ross Chastain running to my guy. Talk about it being in a hell of a bind.

Fent to MF and my guy. My guy's wrecking my other guy. I'm like, son of my b***. I'll tell you one thing was a fact. That 77 was not coming out of the lane. No, no. You weren't getting him off that lane. No.

But so we're, so Bubba gets in the fence. First of all, he gets into wall. He's like, check it. Which to me, check it. I know that means I got a, he's got a wall somewhere. I checked the box you hit it. Check that off. So I'm thinking like we just like got up there too high and one and two and scrubbed it.

Our car was destroyed. Like the right rear quarter pounds hanging off of it. Look like Danny's car. So I'm like, holy shit. Like it's killed. I'm like, it's gun. And then we got a flat going out of front stretch. I was like, all right, pit.

So whatever. So then the rest of the day he's obviously pissed off. I hope you know I'm going to draw a checkmark box on your paint next week, where you can check it when you hit it. Have you guys been watching the Formula One Netflix show? Yeah, I watched it. Retire the car for like nothing. That's what you should start saying. Retire the car.

I should have said it yesterday. I thought the car, Bubba. I probably should have said it yesterday. So he goes, so whatever, we were like two laps down the rest of the race. So then at the very end, I'm like, hey man, don't, you know, keep your head up. You got two lucky dollars in a row. We're three laps. We're three cautions away from being back on a lead lap.

And he's like, oh, it's never going to happen. I don't deserve it. I ran in a wall out of just pout and being difficult, you know, difficult on himself. So then get a caution. Danny gets the lucky dog. Get another caution where you get one one lucky dog. So we're now we're one down. And you get another one with like four to go. I said, oh, yellow's out. We are the lucky dog. This will be back on the lead lap. He said, oh, we go witness. I said, well, we're going to need about a 20 car pile up for that, but we'll be all right. And then he got on the wheel and passed like 10 cars on a last restart. That's awesome. But it was funny. But played out all right for us.

Let's see what's coming up this week on the Dale Jr. Download. This week on the Dale Jr. Download, the episode that you've all been waiting for, Kenny Schrader, is going to join us at the table. Let's catch the TV show Wednesday nights on NBC Sports Network. This week, though, is at 6 p.m. All right, 6 p.m. this week, Wednesday. The Dell Jr. Download, available on major podcast platforms. Let's go into the Fastlane.

Three racing questions. One off-the-wall question. 30 seconds to respond to each. Only 30 seconds. How are you going to stop some talking? Good luck. Fast lane. Question number one.

Next time the Cup Series races at Phoenix, it will be for the championship. Are Sunday's results indicative of... Indicative? Oh, my gosh. You're going to make fun of me for that. Oh. You're okay. I make spelling be as you win as a kid.

I told you how it's going to ride your ass today. I'll get off you next week. This week you're in. I thought. No. We got to leave them in there. Next time the Cup Series races at Phoenix, it will be for the championship. Our Sunday's results indicative of who will be in play for the title in November.

And what did teams learn that they can bring back this fall? Brett. I am going to go with the fact that when you look at Phoenix statistically, the same guys win. It's Denny Hamlin. It's Kyle Bush. It's Kevin Harvick. Now, Joy Lugano has put himself in that same conversation. I think that yesterday was not vindicative of who the...

Vindicative? Vindicative? Matt dibundadda. You're such a d'I. I think you're being vindicative all day today. Sorry, Casey, in a new word. I thought we should just celebrate it, right? I make one mistake.

Why are you on my ass all the time? Casey, I love you. I'm done making fun of you on the show. Zero percent chance that's true. Yeah, seriously, stop talking. My answer is no. TJ, you're next. I think we're pretty early in the season to call out who's going to be there yet,

but you know who's going to run good when we get there. You know who you can look at a who's going to be in the championship. I don't know yet, but you know who the top. You know who's going to run good. And it took a little bit, but the cream rises at the top, and it was slowly rising there. And you're going to see probably the same group of guys rise, whether running for championship or not.

We talked about this with Kyle Larson at Homestead, where you don't want to see a certain guy make the Final Four because Kyle Larson is bad ass at Homestead. I do not think anybody wants to race Kevin Harvick at Phoenix in the Final Four this year. He's been the most consistent guy there. He was probably the best car yesterday, got a little behind on strategy. But these other guys are going to have time to work with this package. He's a little behind.

Start finish, huh? They're going to get better. The Gibbs cars, I didn't think, had a lot of speed yesterday. We didn't see it, Danny. to any wrecked and Kyle was up front, but he didn't have the Kyle Bush speed you're used to. So I think these guys will get better, but I think Kevin Harvick's probably going to be the guy to beat when we get back there. I was supposed to say one thing before we go on, Casey's not paying attention anyway.

I think we're in a position for the first time with this final four crap for the champion to not win the race. Like the champion may not be the race winner at Homestead. I think we saw those guys, you know, hanging it out there and the best, the guy who won the championship won the race, I think we may honestly see that not be the case at Phoenix. Because to TJ's point, we don't know who's going to be in it. But if Kevin Harvick's not in it, if Kyle Busch is not in it, Danny Hamill's not in it. They could win the race.

So, anyway, KK's sorry. Question number two. AI technology called Pitt Row is currently available to all teams and can help decide the best time to pit by suggesting optimum strategy calls. Would you prefer your crew chief decide pit strategy based on the AI technology's real-time recommendation or by using his experience and intuition? Ready. So I think we use this. I know RCR has been using it for the last couple years, and I think Jerry, our crew chief, was trying to get in on that.

We didn't use it last year. But I think you use this. I don't think you can solely use this. I wouldn't want you to solely use this. I think you use this as a tool to maybe point out something that you might not realize. Like if I stay out here, I can run far enough into the next stage where I can make it to the end and get a wave around or something. So just I would use it as a tool,

but I think you have to base all your decisions on instincts more than more so. Yeah, I don't think you can rely on this because that tool doesn't tell you exactly who's going. It might tell you to pit, but you're still going to have, when you have that tire fall off like we were asking for, you had the front half, it split the field every time. Every time there was a 8, 10 laps run, front half might have stayed out, the back half came. Guess who's making up ground, the guys from the back, which is that's what we've been asking for, is guys be able to get tires and make their way back up through. I don't think AI can plan, and not to mention,

Some guys are better at restarts. You know what I mean? How does the AI plan for, you know, your guy making up spots on restarts? And so I just don't think you can rely on that. Yeah, I'll take Matt Borland in his prime, a Chad canals in his prime, a Todd Parrott, a Brian Patty. Any day over a computer program. What's happened is people are compiling data and they're giving you this information based on trends. And I don't think you, I don't, Matt, I don't know that I would.

even subscribe to this, be honest with you. It's just like the cautions. Like, okay, historically we get a cost between that 50 and 60 here. Yeah. It's just a trend. You know, you're not guaranteed that. No.

Atlanta Mother Speedway reversed its decision to repave its surface in 2017 in favor of maintaining the current surface. If you could decide, would you rather keep Atlanta's surface as is or repave and configure to its original layout?

Brett. One. thousand percent keep it as it is and the reason why is if we repave it it's going to be fast good year's going to build a hard tire and it's going to be a crappy race so look at michigan we ruined michigan by repaving it don't put us in that position in lana and thank goodness guys like del junior were vocal about this because he's probably single-handedly the reason why we didn't repave this track yeah yeah i mean obviously we're always 100% against any kind of repave you want the surface to wear out i mean a place like texas had to repave i think

just for the fact that if it rained for 10 minutes, we were in a delay for six hours because the way the track, the drainage was. But, yeah, 100% believes leave Atlanta the way it is. It's awesome racing, awesome tire wear. I mean, if we do have to, if they do decide they have to repave it, let's go back to the Oval. Let's go back to a true Oval.

Give us another mile and a half true Oval like Homestead is. I would not repave it at all. I think I'd stay an extra day if it rained hard enough and we couldn't get the track drive for a great race. I mean, it's a good race. And this goes back. We've had conversations before about why is that asphalt so much different than other asphalt? You know, is there some sort of mixture?

And if you do repave, can you do a mixture that's not super smooth, super fast? Can you do one that's going to chew tires up a little bit and create more passing lanes and track characteristics? With talk of the coronavirus, the top news headlines, Worldwide, Tito's tweeted to its customers to not use their vodka to make homemade hand sanitizer since it's only 40% alcohol and not 60% like actual sanitizers. What are the best practices to avoid getting sick? T.J. Wash your hands, probably. And if somebody's sick, maybe don't hang around them. I mean, I got two kids to go to school, so that's pretty much like the constant cycle anyway. I'm sure you go through it as well.

If you're going to get this, you're going to get it, unless you just stay at home. I was talking to Ken yesterday with North Carolina, and I was like, man, he's like, what do you do when you go to a restaurant? You go in and wash your hands, and then what do you do after you wash your hands? You grab a menu. Think anybody else has touched that menu? What do you do when you go to a bar? I want a teetos in water with a lime. Who do you think cut that lime up?

Like, I don't live my life paranoid, and I probably should. I might live a little longer. I mean, it is what it is. It's funny they use these numbers because that's what usually... I go 60% Titoes myself and then 40% club soda. So it's weird that they use those numbers. And that's kind of how I feel like alcohol kills everything. So I just keep loading up on that and hope to stay healthy.

It seems like it's doing pretty well for me. Here's what I don't understand about these people. It doesn't tear your stomach up and give you, like, diarrhea. So why is everybody buying up all a toilet paper on the West Coast? I was wondering, it's saying it. It's not even a West Coast. I didn't realize that was a thing. Is it everywhere?

Dude, I went to Costco last week, and I was rolling back. I'm like, man, where is there? Why is everything missing here? There's no toilet paper and no hand sanitizer on the West Coast. Really? It's on the East Coast as well. No, you can't find any. It's $200 for hand sanitizer.

Did you see that? They had that, Clint tweeted that one thing. It's $5 a pump at a bar for hand sanitizer. Like, yeah. I mean, obviously it was a joke, but you can't find it. But I don't understand the toilet paper thing. Me neither. Yeah, I don't get it.

It's the same thing as the damn. Snow. We're going to have snow flurries. It's the right milk. Here's what I hope about the coronavirus, and I'm obviously not a doctor. Here we go. No, I'm serious.

Like, the flu season ends. Is this coronavirus season going to end? I don't know. I've read a couple reports where it was starting to slow down. Does it die in the summer like the flu? We don't know. I'll let you know here in a couple months. Man, we got some great news here,

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Brett, since you keep making fun to me, why don't you pronounce this person to further hands? Where? First one. Are we in the blue? Yep. Yep. C.

Well, you can't. There's no constant right there. C-P-T-T. Timmer strain, train, train. All right. Thank you. Do you get a new Twitter handle? CPT timer strain.

The question is, do competition directors have teams take various pit strategies to ensure they have drivers on different pit cycles? How about you, Freddie? Oh, yeah. Ask the guy with no teammates. Perfect. Good idea. That's a great idea, Case.

Yeah. No, me and my teammates, we all do the same thing. Go ahead, Brett. Well, I was thinking, like, I was thinking alliances, so that was kind of my goal now. No, we don't do anything like that with RCR. We're not that close. We're just, we just buy stuff from them. Fine, TJ.

No, not at all. This is, your crew chief makes the decision at the time. Jason, why did you pick this question? Because it's kind of interesting. I thought there's a chance. There's nothing like that that ever happens. You're trying to win the race. There's nobody sitting there be like, hey, you do this when you do that.

I don't want to do that one. This has never happened. Jason was drinking hand sanitizer, the 60% version when he picked this question. Pretend there's like three different pit cycle. This guy's going to get a free t-shirt with a worst question that's ever been asked on this show. What is your deal lately? Why are you so rude to everybody? He's not trying to be a question.

He wants a shirt. Well, he's sitting in the dumbest question that's ever made this show. I think it's a great question. He's curious and he wants to ask him. I'm sorry, listener that I can't say your time-restrained name. I love you. I think you had a great question. Go to the next one.

That's what y'all want to do. You're seriously the worst. Go to the next one. Next one is from, and I'm really sorry for what your name, but Nick Batiga won. With the one lug nut, do you think we will see more wheels fall off from not getting them tight?

There is a 100% chance if you don't get it tight, it's falling off. At some point. If you continue to try to race, then it's not tight. We're doing good with questions this week. week. This one Brett sent me specifically.

Jason, what do you mix with your pants and tie? Brett texted me one specifically to use. I do, because I knew somebody was going to say something funny, like what Freddie just said. What if we make our first pit stop and we roll off pit road and like four cars have wheels just fall off going off the end of pit road? Oh, man. Last one is from TLCM 88.

T.J. Another stupid question. Jason, you suck. This one, T.J. hasn't talked about it yet, so I figured it's good to know. Are you spotting for Dale? That's because T.J. don't know. See? I mean, you tweet him. Ask him. I don't know.

He seems to answer most things on Twitter. Yeah, I don't know. Ask him. Let me answer it. Yes. Yeah, T.J. Spotting for Dale. He has not said anything to me yet. Getting close. Yeah, he might want to think about it. Just tell me you got a gig.

Announce it I hear you doing. running that week. I got to say congratulations to all three of these guys. We're getting on our show somehow with three awful questions. Congratulations, y'all won an Off-Pad T-shirt. I'm really sorry to all of these three people.

I think your questions are great, and I'm really glad that you made an effort to tweet us. I'm convinced Jason's getting side money now to get these freaking questions on because people have asked me, can they buy our T-shirts? Jason's selling the damn slots on this show to get these Off-Pad T-shirt. If you send me nice things, maybe...

This is... It works out. This is Amish John. Josh effort right here. Great job, Jason. Retweet the show, people, too, and I'll pick one random person and send them a shirt as well. Casey, let's end this show really quick. Yes.

Please. Hey, I don't have a rant, but before we're done, I just want to mention David Rogers passed away yesterday morning. We got the news. Short Track Legend, I'm sure you guys. Brett, you're not really a big short track guy. But he's probably seen his car a hundred times. He's got the record for the most snowballed herbies. He ran 33 snowballed derbies.

I think there's only been 34 of them. He missed last year. He was real sick and missed the race last year. But just a true badass, you know, short track legend. The guy, every race he went to back in the day, he was, just look him up on Twitter or Google him. You'll see all kind of badass pictures of like late models and old school streetstock looking cars.

So just want to take a minute to notice him. And I don't actually have a rant this week. I don't know that I have a rant either, do you? You always have something to say. He does. He's already ran six times. I got a personal rant. So, I mean, I'd say this year, two out of four races, I've been put in really bad positions on the weekends.

My mom had a stroke. Obviously, I was in Daytona. This weekend, I was in Phoenix. I get a phone call that my daughter has been pushed from behind at the school and fell. We had a kid, a guy, a boy that was making fun of her at school, saying she looked like an albino, she didn't have eyebrows. She's got a big forehead. And I came from a small town where literally you live by sticks and stones and break your bones. Words will never hurt you, right?

So let that go. Ends up that her friend said that this kid is the guy that pushed her from behind in the hall. So nonetheless, here we go to the school. The principal ain't going to do a whole lot. So what do I do? I call the parents. We take it head on, try to fix it. And I think we've resolved it.

But if your kids are having problems, stand up for your kids. Don't trust the school system to do it because they won't. And that is not one of Brett's issues because we were, where were we that time when they, the restaurant that wouldn't let Boat eat his food? I look over and Brett is not. the color of the chick fillet box. And he's on the phone screaming at somebody because they wouldn't let all of Brett's kids, or not all of them, Keeley doesn't, but Brett's kids have food allergies.

So they have to, you know, bring some stuff or, you know, move some stuff around. But I thought he's going to kill somebody. So buddy can't have shellfish. They were with a group of 20. Everybody wanted habachi. So they were willing to the restaurant at Myrtle Beach and look at probably as against law. But nonetheless, you know, here sits a five-year-old boy holding a piece of cheese pizza. He's going to eat three bites and throw it away anyway.

and they came in and were like super rude about it to Claudia and Bodie. And, I mean, I get the phone call of you. You won't believe how we were treated. So I called and voiced my displeasure. Do they what then? But the funniest thing Freddie and I ever did in a restaurant is we walked into Redneck Kevin in Texas. And we sat down at this table and we waited 10 minutes and never saw a server. And so I called the restaurant while sitting at the table.

And I said, hey, may I please speak to the manager? And they're like, yeah, sure, no problem. Put the manager on the phone. How can I help you? I was like, hey, my name's Brett. And me and my buddy, Freddie, are sitting here in the middle of your restaurant. We would love to order a beer. And this guy's like, are you being serious right now?

We were watching him. He was on the phone. We were watching him. We're waving. Here we are. He's like, oh, my God. I'm so sorry, guys. I'll be right over to help you.

You're probably the people that I would never want to serve you, honestly. That's not true. I'm the biggest tipper of you know. Moral of the story is Brett is super shy and we'll never speak as mine. Yeah. All right. Off to Atlanta. What are our DVC picks?

Hey, food allergies are no joke, man. No, absolutely not. Now, T.J.'s got one with nuts, too. Nuts. What the hell did you just say? A nut allergy. As a matter of fact, he has none with nuts. That is the first time I've ever misspoke.

Usually, I mean what I say. Literally, he does have a kid with nutt out. I'm sorry. This show's off the rails today. TJ, you suck at this. It's already three to one. Brett beat T. Failed right there.

With Harvick over Kyle Bush, but T.J. gets picked first this week. Man, where are we going, Atlanta? They finished second and third. You know how I know who you're paying here. Yeah, I'll go with the old number four. Yeah. Yeah, good pick. Man, I figured you were going to do that.

I figured you were going to do that last week, but I tried to beat it because you already used them. Yeah, man, I'm in a hell of a bind. I've used some good guys. You have. I'm starting to use them. I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb just because of the tire fall off. I think they've been super, super fast at the down for the tracks. And I'm going to try Blaney.

Yeah, he was another one of my picks. I was thinking of my thing. I probably just wasted them. I probably should just let you win this week, but you never know. You should have picked somebody worse. Yeah. Should have saved him. I know.

You're so good at beat me in this year. I know. I was like, TJ shouldn't be giving you a race. All these races are, like they're impossible to. TJ, you're O for four. Listen. Yeah, I would say they're impossible too. Freddie could start right now and probably beat you.

Freddie, make a pick. Make a pick. You get a pick from anybody, other than Kevin Harvick and whoever I got. Listen, I'll keep, you keep winner not here. and I'll keep winning in real life. We'll see if Fred didn't come back and beat us even though he spotted us four weeks. I'll take 48.

Jimmy Jam! All right, well, we're going to close the show because we've clearly talked way too much today. Well, if we didn't spend five minutes with your airs. You started off the show so nice. I thought he was going to be nice to you. I'm just saying.

I thought Brett was a dick and he was nice one. I'm sorry that I couldn't pronounce one word. Okay, I'm going to stop talking. Thank you guys so much for listening. If you guys are in Atlanta this weekend, please come say hi. Well, I think we're all going to be there. Yeah. Numerous people at Phoenix stop me again.

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