Door Bumper Clear - 170 - The World's Listening

Episode Date: April 20, 2020

The gang returns after a hot week of NASCAR news involving Kyle Larson, rumors surrounding when racing will return and much more. Brett Griffin, T.J. Majors, Freddie Kraft, Casey Boat, and Jason Schultz cover the fallout concerning Kyle Larson plus how iRacing driver audio is heard publicly, Chip Ganassi Racing’s next steps and Larson’s future. NASCAR is eager to return to the race track and the crew shares updates on what is being done to make that happen and what a race will now look like. It’s never too early to discuss silly season and the guys share their predictions on who will inherit Jimmie Johnson’s ride next season. Seeing drivers dish out payback never gets old and the gang talks the best examples of payback ever. It’s NFL Draft Week and to throw a racing spin on it, the guys draft their own driver lineup. Plus, they debate which NASCAR season would make for the best documentary.  Want more DBC? Check out and subscribe to the new DBC YouTube channel! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Is it biggest Freddy's? No, we're recording. I see the thing where it's recording. So? Is it bigger than mine, but not as big as Freddy's? It's kind of like, this is going to sound so mean, but ears is like wider because you're bigger on, like, wider. Are you talking to me or Brett?

I'm just further out. Oh my gosh. So who are you talking to? Are you talking to Freddy or Brett? How do you know my belly's wider? We're not standing beside each other. You're like you're wider meaning like I'm like I. Maybe his baby's laying sideways.

Mine's laying on the couch. This is door bumper clear and I'm Jason Schultz. We're all coming to you from our homes again today. Brett, T.J, and Freddie will cover Kyle Larson's news. Team owners threatening to leave. And ahead of the NFL draft, we'll have our own NASCAR draft. Let's get started. I'm T.J. Majors. This is Brent Griffin.

Hey, me too now. This is Freddie Kraft. Get ready. Be ready. Be ready. Be ready. Give me what you got here. New leader. I'll watch out for this guy. White flag. Hey, hello, below, clear. Bring home.

Three light. Coming to the line. Door, bumper, clear. Hey, everybody. I'm T.J. Majors, spotter of virtual cars only. And full house today. We have... What's up?

Brett Griffin in the house. Quarantine mode. All I've done all weekend is text my buddies, pictures of everything that I'm grilling. And it's been ribs. It's been filets. It's been rib eyes. Last night I cooked tuna.

I am literally bored to death and cooking myself to death. Yeah, Freddie Craft in, I guess it's my house, not the house. Same thing. Just been wearing a trager out. Still on the wagon. Three weeks now. My goal is to, so here's my goal. Brett keeps giving me shit about this because I ain't been drinking,

but I never really drink at my house. But my plan is if I get one more weekend, this will be the first time in me and Megan's 11-year relationship that she's drank more than I have in a month. So that's my, she's had a couple glasses of wine with dinner. I haven't had anything. So it's my new goal. I'm going to have one month in our relationship where Megan drinks more than me.

Now that is a goal. Hey guys, Casey Boat here and not cooking a lot, but I've been baking a lot. Because that's why I think so. And eating a lot, yes. But she's narrow, so it's okay. Freddie, you ever think about, you know, once Megan has that wine for dinner, getting her out in the car? Maybe.

It wouldn't be as much fun because Brett's got the damn windows in my truck so blacked out that I can't even, nobody would ever see us. Nobody would have any idea that we were in there. It's true. And we can't forget about our lovely producer, Jason. Lovely. He is lovely, isn't he? Thank you, Casey.

Glad to be. Can you just, can you just, what is wave or something, Jason, at least? I mean, we know your hand can be in. There you go. I do think it's unfair that Brett and Freddie keep posting about grilling things. things when those of us who don't have a grill

and have no access to grilled food right now can't. Come over. I'll leave some on the porch for you. You ain't going to believe this, Jason, but Lowe's is an essential business and you can go to Lowe's and buy you a grill. I can't have a grill at the apartment. I'm on the third floor. They're not enforcing any laws right now.

Everything goes. I don't know if you know that, but you can literally do anything you want. Law enforcement are just riding around right now, just waving at everybody. A George Foreman or something. That's not the same. That's not even close to being the same. Jason, what about a smoker? It's not really a grill, you know? It's not really a flaming grill. He probably can't have that either. Yeah, I think they're all against a lot. So,

Freddie, you just leave it on the porch and I'll come over and grab something. Yeah. Brett, you got curbside. Yeah, I was going to say, man, I'll bring you, I'll bring you something. Good, good. Because I got to get the fuck out of this house. I'm about to go crazy. I feel so bad for your wife and kids, honestly. Oh, my God. His poor wife and kids. You shouldn't right now as iPad was dead because they were playing Minecraft too late last night. that's why it's another location maybe you should take up Minecraft i'll tell you what i don't know brett i don't know about you but i ate i tell these guys before you got here i either have the coronavirus or i've been inhaling way too much smoke because my allergies and my chest are like

i don't know if it's yesterday i was like over the with the ribs i was doing them all day so i was like just out there every couple hours like just getting pounded with smoke so i'm hoping it's that not the fact that i ate coronavirus at some point yesterday if you had the coronavirus we're about to disconnect you from this chat because you might be It takes. Yeah. You got a thermometer, Freddie? Seriously.

Casey, you go first. Does anybody on this conference call right here, on this Zoom thing that we're doing, do y'all know somebody that tested positive for the coronavirus? Yeah. Casey goes first. She claims, so the test came back negative, but she claims that it was, like, they're saying that it was a false negative. But no, I personally don't.

I know of, like, a few people who. know people who do, but I... So the test came back negative, but she still thinks she had it. Like their doctor said that on, like, they're like, it's possible it could be a false negative because we're getting a few of those. Are you sure you're pregnant? What? Yeah.

I mean, unless there's something else going on. Did you get a false positive? Yeah, did you get a false positive here? I'm just saying what the doctor said. God. I don't know a soul. Like, honestly, like I know this one person that claims she had it, but she didn't test positive. My niece thought she had it.

She went got tested. another friend of mine thought they had it, they went and got tested. They both tested negative. They did not have it. But I personally don't know anybody. Like, it's just so weird. It's this literally a globe. I didn't know what the word pandemic meant when I first saw it.

Like, I knew what epidemic meant. But when I saw a pandemic, I was like, man, I got to Google this word. What the hell is this mean? Like, there's a pandemic going on and I don't know one single person with it. It just seems odd. Well, hopefully it stays that way. I will say that there's a lot of other, like, viruses going around. And I think you mentioned Freddie, but like allergies too,

where people just don't know. I'll tell you one thing, Brett, and Brett can probably relate to this. My kids haven't been sick and over a month. Yeah, just keep them home. I mean, yeah, they don't go to school, so they haven't been sicking over a month, man. It's been awesome.

Just a little bit of road. One of the big things is, like, it's just regional. Like, I know a lot of people that have it, but it's all people that I know from New York. Like we're talking about last night. Well, my family, there's 27,000 cases in the county that I'm from. and there is 6,000 cases in North Carolina. Like, that's just, you know, the number, like, so I know there's a guy, Paul McLennie.

Were you FaceTime on him? Did you get it? I'm good. But, like, Paul McClureen is a bad-ass late-mile driver from back in, like, Riverhead, like Ice of Speedway Riverhead days that Dillner would know him really well. I actually just tweeted a series of pictures of Junior about him because he ran, Dale came to the staff of Connecticut and ran a car that Paul McLeaner drove on a regular basis. And he just passed away.

He was older. He was 70 years old, but he died of coronavirus. I don't know, Tuesday or Wednesday. Wow. So I've known like two or three people that have died from it. The guys that work with my dad are really sick in the hospital. So like I know, there's like seven or eight people that I know that have it. But like I said, they're all from Long Island.

I don't know anybody personally, but there's some friends of people that I know that have had it. And what I'm, I guess the worst part about it is it's a lot of them are elderly people that have underlying issues. But man, when they get it, though, they basically sweep them people away, and that's the last time their relatives or anybody sees them again, that's the worst part about it to me is they're not allowed visitors. You're not allowed anybody. So when they go to the hospital, you're pretty much alone.

So still can be a very serious situation, but I don't know anybody personally that, you know, firsthand that has had it. Yeah, we're talking about this. I think me and Brett were texting about it. And like just the stuff that you, like Doug Shinar, I don't know if you guys know Doug, he passed away a couple weeks ago. He had none to a coronavirus. He was down here. He had a stroke. But like a young guy, I don't know, you think he's like 40. But like now you get no memorial service. You know what I mean? Like your friends and family can't come pay respects or nothing like that. I think they had people drive by. Brett talked about like a drive-by funeral. But I mean like just stuff like that. Like, you know, like you want to say goodbye to these people and you can't because now, you know, we can't have gatherings of over whatever 10 people. But, you know, she's a shame. James dance teacher, her husband passed away, and literally all of the students got in cars,

obviously separate cars, and we did like a drive-by wake. It was the weirdest, saddest thing I probably have ever been a part of. Like, man, what a weird freaking time. I'm ready for the shit to go back to normal. I know you all right. Did you see it indie? Did you see it, Indy? They used the Indianapolis Speedway to have a funeral there where it was nice, big open area and stuff,

and they lined all the cars up and stuff. I thought that was a cop or something, wasn't it? Yeah. She was a fallen police officer yet. That looked pretty amazing. For everything that we're dealing with, I feel like they've made the most of at least her passing. Another topic, though, did you guys see that there's a Sprit car race that's going to be run this weekend? Not racing?

No, a real Sprit Car race. We're at? Florida. Is that the $200,000? Is that the $100,000? Is that the $100,000 one to win or something like that? Nope. Chad decided that he's going, so.

Chad needs out of the house. Yeah, apparently he's sick of me. Where you going? I'm assuming South Dakota. I'm assuming his boyfriend. I'm assuming his boyfriend. His boyfriend's racing? He's done sick of you.

I just keep thinking that like you see people making efforts to try and go back to normal. And I heard about like restrictions they're doing where, you know, if you're in the grandstands, you cannot go to the pit area. or if you're in the pit area, you can't go to the grandstands. And, like, there's only a maximum amount of people allowed in your pit area at all times for your team. So, like, there's a ton of restrictions around it. But, I mean, I feel like that's almost the new normal these days, right? Like, that's essentially what's going to happen over the next few months, I would think, until we get to a better spot. I think this is a little early, but I don't know.

South Dakota might not have any cases. Who knows? Yeah, South Dakota don't think has any cases. But they're going to now. Yeah, that's going to be the issue. You know what I mean? Like these people, like, I think somebody said, you know, like Florida started opening up beaches yesterday. That's ridiculous. Packed. Like, you know, people just have no comment. Let me tell you something. Like, if I can social distance at Michaels shopping for arts and crafts, or I can social distance at Lowe's shopping for lumber and a hammer.

Grilled in God, I can social distance on a beach. Like, I'm sorry, we're Americans. We're going to, we're trying to get through this. I've been sitting in this house for 30 plus days. How many days do you honestly want us to sit here? So you want the entire economy to come crashing down and us lose everything that we've got. Man, I get the virus. I get the severity of it. But we have to have a plan to recover. And I'm sorry, but I can social distance on a beach just as good as I can at freaking Harris Teeter. So are you-

I'm going to go ahead and tell you, did you see all the people on that beach? There is absolutely no chance they were social distancing on that beach. It could have been Bural from another day too. That's exactly right. Your liberal media could have absolutely baited you in a belief. evening, it could have been July 4th from 1995. Remember, I mean, we've seen so many times that the media has lied to us. How do we know that picture's live?

Okay. I would think people have enough common sense to stay eight, six feet apart. Without, without getting completely political here, if they said North Carolina right now, go ahead, it's open. What would the, what would the beaches on the lake look like, the little, you know, like the little coves and stuff? Like, people are not, people, people aren't doing it now. You know that. Like people, it's one thing if you open it up and have somebody there to enforce social distancing, but you know these people will not do it.

Here's what we don't know, Freddie. And then I think you, I mean, Casey and TJ don't know this, but I've only been around two families throughout this entire 30-plus day period. It's been Freddie and Megan on three or four occasions. And it's been my friend David Christine on three or four occasions. So outside of those people, I've not come in contact close proximity with anybody else, right? So if I roll by an island and I see two families there, like, how do I know they haven't done what me and you have been doing, right? So, man, I mean, people are being, we have a new normal, right? When 9-11 happened and we went through all the crazy airplane crap at the airport and we all hated it,

and it was the new normal. And I think now the new normal is we're going to all stay six feet apart, no bro hugs anytime soon. Like, we're talking about going to the racetrack with no pit crews. You guys saw it on Twitter just like I did from Bob Pockris. Like we're talking about showing up with not a pit crew to run a 600 mile race at the end of May. How crazy is that to imagine? So then, Brett, are you for them running things like sprint car races in South Dakota and kind of going back to a normal to an extent? Man, here's the thing.

Like, we're seeing these states argue with the federal government, right? And so there's an accountability issue. So when the federal government says, here's what we need to be doing. And then the states either go crazy with it like that guy in Virginia or the states manage it like our governor here in North Carolina. We're on a stay-at-home order through the end of the month. The guy in Virginia went on a 70-plus-day stay-at-home order, right? So I'm all for responsibility. I'm all for not doing crazy stuff.

Like Casey, for us to say we're going to go race tomorrow at Homestead, I truly believe that we could fly down there and only be around one another and fly home. But if you're saying that you're going to race in South Dakota and, Every Spint Csmat car guy in America is going to come. You may have people literally from 50 states show up to this thing. Holy cow. Like, then you're opening up your can of worms for a lot of, in my opinion, a lot of cases to be brought into your state. So I think it's crazy how the state and federal guys are having to balance themselves right now.

Hey, Brett, let me ask you this. If they did say today, you know, we're running homestead on Sunday, you good with it getting on a plane? Freddie, it's just like we're. talked about last time with Alan Copavana. I don't have a choice. If you say we're running Sunday, TJ, you're going to go?

We have jobs. Freddie, you going to go? I'm going to go. Obviously, I'm just saying, are you good with getting on a, would you want to drive? I mean, if they tell you, I ain't driving a homestead. We're not flying.

You got to load up in a van and stay three, you got one guy in each row, you know, like. Here's the thing, man. I think you do what these hospitals are doing. Like I just, unfortunately, saw a friend of mine that her daughter was in a very bad wreck on Facebook, and they told her

she couldn't come to the hospital, and she showed up anyway, and they screened her, and they let her go. I think that we have to have some accountability there to make sure we don't have a temperature, because it goes back to what we talked about before we all were sent home in Atlanta. If I have a sore throat from all this freaking pollen and you inhaling too much grill smoke, how do I know if it's the coronavirus or if it's a crazy freaking world, man? crazy world. I hate it. I can honestly,

I can see us standing on a roof six feet apart the first race bat. You know what? I can see us having our own suite. I can see us with their... But look, man, and there's a lot of stuff in the malls with fodder stands.

I mean, Homestead is probably what our biggest one? I could see them using the grandstands for us a certain section where we could all spread out. They're going to have to. They're going to have to. And that's going to screw up our line of sight because we're going to be lower. Suites are obviously an option,

But you look at Darlington, man, we can't help us stand hip-to-hip, shoulder-to-hip shoulder. You know, we get the homestead, we can spread out some. But, like, I can see us really going back with a whole new set of rules. And it's just like we talked about, man, 9-11 changed the world. This virus has unfortunately changed the world, too. Before we get started, let's hear more about our presenting sponsor, Offer Pat. Now that you've been home for a while, you're probably realized it's time for you to sell your home and make a move. Luckily for you, we know the easiest way to make that happen.

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But Kyle Larson and the challenges, I guess, he is definitely facing now with his air on last week's eye racing race. I do have a few questions around it. I feel like, TJ, since you are really the pro on the ir racing side, at least behind the scenes, some of these questions I think you might have quite some good insight on. So first one, how does the game go from private chats to chats everyone can hear? Because we know that's where kind of the mistake went. So in iRacing, when you join a race, all the drivers are on the same channel.

Everyone's on the same channel one, basically. And you can choose to mute that, get off that, you know, don't have to be on there if you want. But it's a way to talk to each other in the race. Something kind of unique. You know, we kind of did that a little bit with tandem racing. It's very similar to that where you can switch frequencies and go to that guy's radio. But this is basically everybody at any time. With me and Brett are going down in the corner and we wreck and Freddy's leading the race,

me and Brett Key up and start yelling at each other. Freddy's listening to it. So, you know, that's something unique about irascing. But there's also private channels. You can be on a private channel with your team, with any, you know, any teammates you have in there. You can speak privately back and forth with that. them. But when the session changes in iRacing, one thing that happens is it kind of puts everybody back on the same channel. And it's kind of a, I don't know if it's supposed to or not, but sometimes

it does. So you got to go make sure, it's like you check it in your radio. If you go to channel two and you don't have, if you don't have a second radio and you go over to channel two for a second and you talk on it, you've got to look down at your radio and make sure you go back to channel one and you're on the right channel again. That's exactly the same thing you're doing. You're just doing with a mouse or a button on your steering wheel or something. And if you don't switch back, you're broadcasting to everybody. And that's kind of how it happens. But when we hear broadcasting to everybody, if you're playing this game with your headphones on,

you're obviously going to only hear all the chatter. Like these guys that are trying to be social media influencers and these Twitch guys, they're broadcasting to the world because they have people that are watching them. that's how ultimately the audio was broadcasted out loud, right? Yeah, there is a, so we're all in the same race together. And, you know, me and you wreck, Freddie's streaming from his house. So his program that's taking the streaming is picking up his computer screen. What's on his inside the sim there?

He's picking up the sim what he's racing. He's probably got a camera on them too like a lot of them streamers do. And it has their audio because you don't want to, you're not going to watch stream where you can't hear the car's in-car noise motor you know what i mean so it's taking all the game audio which includes the driver chat and stuff too because there's no way to separate it since it's inside the sim inside the game it takes all the all the sounds from inside that you know application and and then it broadcasts it so anything if he's on his own private private channel it's only broadcasting that but he's broadcasting whatever channel he's on in there so you know me and you

rec and we started arguing or whatever. Freddy's broadcasting it. We're arguing on the main channel. Everybody's hearing it. Everybody's hearing it. So that's honestly, man, it's just like it's just like in car radios in real life. You got to just pretend

everybody's listening at all times. So there's no way to kind of... You can mute. You can mute it. You don't have to be on that chat. You can mute that chat. But you can't talk to your spotter in a way where nobody else can hear. On your team channel, but oh, not inside, you can use an outside program, but you're getting pretty in depth there.

A lot of people use outside programs as well to chat back and forth, not in the gym or inside the game. That'd be like having a digital radio where nobody else can hear it, but whoever's got that digital radio. You can do that, but it's a lot more in depth. And you've got to download more programs to separate the audio from that. You'd have to reach over on your keyboard and push a button to talk on that. one only and make sure your mic's not picking that up it's just nobody really does that it's a it's a pretty in-depth process to do that but you just got to treat it like everybody's listening because they are and everything's recorded as somebody you know them streams are broadcasted and recorded so people

can go back and and uh see what people are doing and saying and and it's just you just got to treat it you know like it like the world's listening you are a huge advocate for eye racing, one of the biggest that I know. We've seen this eye racing thing go from really fun, really lighthearted, really popular. I mean, we had almost a million viewers the first week this thing hit the television. Next thing you know, Bubba's in a controversy. Next thing you know, Larson's in a controversy. Then the next controversy we saw was those guys limiting the amount of cup drivers that could

be in Richmond race. They kick guys out like Michael McDowell that have been full-time cup drivers for a long time. like we have a tug of war going on here between the network i racing NASCAR the drivers the teams as great as this thing as much as you love ir racing does it hurt your heart a little bit to see the community having to deal with the drama around this platform uh a little bit you know there's um when everything when things grow like that you're going to have obstacles that pop up you're going to have things that you're not this thing went from exploding you know what i mean like it exploded quick and it wasn't this like gradual climb up the ladder it went from here to

like that and next thing you know it's on tv next thing you know it's on i mean we're watching this stuff on national tv now um but it does you know i hate to see the things that have happened there's a lot of lessons to be learned from this um but you know with every when you're growing you're going you're going to have things pop up man and and i guess this is part of it and um you're right though there's a big tug of war right now between who won you're once what and it kind of got too big too quick everybody wanted a piece of the pie well the pie ran out you know and next thing you know you've got 60 guys trying to race in this race they all feel like they should be in it and um you know it's just growing it got so popular so quick and um I don't know

man it's hard to I guess they had to step in and regulate okay well we got a really limit who's in this field and some of the guys didn't make the cut I think um having that qualifying race I guess even for guys like Dale Jr. who's been in this from the beginning and been a bit advocate of as well, you know, they're making him qualify in or get some sort of promotion to get in,

something like that. But it's definitely, I think they've done a good job with trying to regulate it some. But even like Bubba's deal, to me, that's just what happened on the tracks, real race and stuff. People, we're running Bristol, man.

Guys are going to hit. They're going to get into scuffles. And honestly, it's just like the rest of, I mean, give people something to talk about, but this time, you know, obviously I don't know all the details about it. We talked a little bit about it for, but there was somebody expecting a little more out of something that they didn't get, and they were vocal about it. So, you know, there are consequences of it as well. There never used to be consequences of any of this stuff.

Me and you get on there to race, we wreck, we quit the race, nobody cares. You know, now you can't, now people are expecting to see their car out there or, you know, just, there's just, The expectations are growing. Everything's just growing so quick. I didn't watch the first half of the race yesterday. I decided to go for a run. And honestly, man, the first couple weeks, obviously, Fred and I broadcasted around it, had a lot of fun with it.

Then Bristol, then the Bubba thing, then the Larson thing, then the guy's arguing over who's going to get to race and not race. I was kind of over it, man. So I went for a run. I did watch second half, and I saw that when I got home, that Clint still sucks. That has not changed. There's a handful of guys.

guys and honestly it's it's a lot of i will tell you this because i get on there throughout the week and i see the sessions that are up and um a lot of these guys are putting in a lot of time like there you can see the guys that are doing it too like i'll tell you brad just got his sim at his house last week and i saw brad on there three times last week maybe uh running last man just getting good he was actually very competitive uh by doing that but you got guys man i heard i heard brad was on the download last week and i heard that the captain talked to you guys uh you guys that i heard that the captain about Blaney and I heard he talked about Joey and I heard he didn't say a word about Brad. Is Brad going to be a free agent, man? Is he going somewhere else? Tell us what you know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't make them decisions. I know Brad's one of the top drivers, you know, in the sport. He's a past champion. He's a very big studier as well. You know, Brad's won a lot of races and he's, you know, he's proven his worth. So I don't know. it'd be tough for me to let a guy like Brad Walk. Yeah, I'd agree with that, man. Just getting back to ira-race, and I feel like they're getting a bad rap out of some of this stuff, because, like, I saw where, you know, as soon as the Larson News broke,

everybody's like, oh, that's that damn irasin for you. Like, what control does ira-racing have over what Kyle Larson says? You know what I mean? Or... Eye-racing has a very strict, they have a very strict code of conduct, too. People get banned from there. I think since, you know, they've had so many new subscribers and trying it out.

I heard, so you can go on there and everything's recorded too for them. They can go back through and look at stuff. And there is a very strict code of conduct.

Like you can't, you can't get on there and cuss some guy out or whoever it is on there, the other person, you're gonna get suspended for a week. So they're very strict

on what they do, what's being said on there. I'm racing does a really good job of keeping that, you know, keeping it a good place to go. Like, you know, there's some young kids

on there, obviously at times, and you can tell you'll be racing some personal key up, and you can tell, like, holy cow, that kid's 14 years old or something, and he's pretty good. But, you know, they're very strict about it, and they don't play around with it. If you mess around, you're going to get suspended or, you know, some time off. I have plenty of friends that have had time off from there. Yeah, I mean, it just feels like they, I mean, they did a great job, give these guys a platform to race that and then everything that happens that is negative gets instantly blamed on them. I promise you, they have, you know, they're just working with NASCAR or Fox or whoever to make these races the best they can.

I feel like we're talking about stuff we're going to talk about later. But, you know, like it's not their fault these guys get on there and wreck each other and act like idiots and quit or or say stuff they shouldn't say. Just like us. We don't drive the cars. They're not driving the cars. They're not talking for people. They're just simply giving up, trying to give us the best place and go and race, you know,

have fun and do fun stuff. I mean, eye racing can be a ton of fun. Even if, like, you know, we could get on there. We do fun stuff, too. We run off-road trucks at Bristol for fun around the Oval. You can, I mean, it's just something to do. You know what I mean? It's like picking up your Xbox remote and, you know, Brett racing with his kid on there

and having a good time. There's a lot of fun things to do on eye racing. And we have a lot of fun doing it. I got it now, so I'll be in there wrecking you. Oh, really? I don't. My brother's got it. How's John got it? He ain't got a job. He had a job in three years. I told you that I got money. He don't watch out. He sneaks up on you.

Is he sleeping? He's either sleeping or eye-raising right now. I don't know. He's been training for his quarantine his whole life. This guy literally does not leave the house. Now that we're quarantined, he's in heaven. He's the only person in the country that was unaffected by the coronavirus. 100%. He got a job. Don't leave the house.

sits on the couch all day, sleeps till noon. What's his name on irising? John Kraft? Yeah, two. John Kraft's two of them? Well, he's an idiot. So he wanted to make sure. TJ, Bradden and everyone won't know this.

But like so he wasn't sure he bought a computer and stuff and wanted to make sure it was going to work. So you can get like a monthly subscription or a yearly deal, I guess. So John's like, let me make sure this is going to work. I think I forget it's like, what, 10 bucks a month or something like that. So he just buys like this month. subscription, uh, so it's John Kraft. So he goes through runs a couple races. All right, sweet. This all works great. So I was like, now I'm going to go get the yearly

subscription. And it's now it's John Kraft too. He lost his name because he started this monthly subscription with his real name. So I guess like if there's a Brett Griffin on there, Brett, you would just be Brett Griffin two or three or whatever many brick griffins there are on there. So he hasn't logged in since, uh, 7.50 p.m. last night. Really? He's got 81 star. Star, star, arts and four wins. I think I won all those races, by the way. Yeah, his last win came at the, oh, in the stadium truck at 2008 Phoenix track, which was probably a disaster.

Oh, he's going to wear out that stadium trip. Yeah, he runs. I think I won a Legend Car race on there at maybe Lanier or something. His last two finishes were 18th and 24th. Not good showings. All right, real quick, back to Larson. I just want to know, what do you guys think? You know, there's a lot of talk around what's next, what's going to happen?

And what do you guys think Larson needs to do to come back from all of this? Brett, how about you? Man, he's got to rebrand himself. You know, I think the positive for Kyle Larson is that he is one of the most talented race car drivers in the world. And because he is one of the most talented in the world, he probably has an opportunity to overcome this. But I think no sponsor is going to touch him for the foreseeable future, which means that a guy like James Finch, like Matt Collins, like Gene Haas, like Barney out in Colorado to own that race team,

it's going to take an owner that doesn't need a sponsor to bring him back if he's going to come back in the next 12 to 15 months. Because like I just said, sponsors aren't going to touch him. I think there's a lot of things that people don't necessarily realize about Kyle Larson. He lost, he got suspended from NASCAR. He got suspended from virtually every single form of racing in the world. He's the spending from it right now, including eye racing. They kicked him off, right?

And then outside of that, he lost his job. He got fired. Kyle Larson on two companies. He on Kyle Larson, a race car driver company, and he on Kyle Larson racing, which was his obviously racing company. Both of those companies lost all of their revenue. That means a lot of people that were extensions of Kyle Larson lost their jobs. And I've got to say, as a dad, I got to think the hardest thing he's going to have to endure through this process is his son Owen knows nothing but going to the racetrack every single weekend.

And Owen is going to one day look on TV and he's going to see NASCAR on TV or he's going to see sprint cars on TV and he's going to look at his dad and he's going to say, Dad, why aren't we going to the racetrack? And of all the things that have happened to Kyle through this process and all the penalties that have been handed down, I think that one's going to hit him the hardest is when he has to endure telling his son, you know, from accountability standpoint, how bad he screwed up and why they're not at the racetrack. And I think if there's anybody that can overcome this, look, there's two facets of our sport. There's a competition side and there's

a marketing side. Kyle Arson has never been a marketing giant, right? Neither has, neither has Jimmy Johnson. They've been competitors. They've done everything. All their success has come from how good they can drive a race car. And I think Kyle's strong enough to be able to come back from that. You know, you look at guys on the marketing side like Michael Walter. He survived the sport for decade, decade plus, without winning a cup race and eventually got a shot and obviously won some races, won three or four play races, right? But when you look at what does it take to come back from this, it's you better be one hell of a race car driver, and he is. But I think he's got, man, the Willie T. Ribs article that they did, I think it was on

racer.com. That was probably one of the better articles I read. where Willie T. was like, hey, you know, this guy's not O.J. Simpson, he didn't kill anybody. You know, let's give him an opportunity to come back. But I think when you look at it, Casey, it's going to be a really long, hard road. And for him to come back, man, he's going to have to really go find himself, and he's going to have to search for himself, and he's going to have to rebrand. And ultimately, once again, somebody with a lot of money is going to have to give him a chance. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, in the past, you've kind of seen Kyle.

I mean, this, obviously, he's been kind of cavalier with some of the stuff he says. You know, I mean, if you watch, I forget, there was a rain delay somewhere. He kind of made a joke, you know, that wasn't, you know, PC as, you know, about, you know, they said something about him playing video games and he's made a comment like, is that some kind of Asian joke? You know, I mean, so he's been a little cavalier. I just, he just can't afford, obviously, any more slips. Like, he's going to get a second chance. You know, he's too talented not to.

But, I mean, now you've got to be, you know, like, there's, you can't, nothing, you can't even walk the narrow line. anymore. Like, you know, you've got to be, make sure you are 100% PC. And I think he's got to be more vocal. You know what I mean? I feel like you don't, you don't ever hear from him. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's just a, like, that's his personality, I feel like also. Like, even, you know, we've spent a little bit of time with him and he's still pretty quiet then, you know, but I feel like he's just got to get more out there. Like you say, he's not on the marketing side much. I think if he wants to come back, he's going to have to get out there, maybe find a sponsor that's willing to risk it. I don't see that happening anytime soon, obviously.

And like you said, a guy like James Finch is perfect for Kyle Larson. You know what I mean? Where, you know, Finch went through this with Kurt Busch. You know, Kurt had that stuff happen with, you know, his domestic situation or whatever. And that's where he got his shot back was, you know, got in the 51 car, got in the 78 car, and worked his way back to where he is now. So it's just, it's a tall ladder to climb, but I think you'll see him back. But T.J. Freddie brings up a good point.

A lot of things that Kyle says are almost anti-marketing. Like he says he doesn't want to go sign autographs at the souvenir trailer because he doesn't make enough money. He makes more money selling T-shirts at the dirt track. He says he wants to win the chili ball more than the Daytona 500. Like there's a lot of things that I think he's got to clean up. Even in that, just the frame of mind of the whole thing. Yeah, I think he's young too. He's 27.

People refer to him as a kid. He's not a kid. He's 27. I mean, he's got some learning to do. But he has enough time to recover from this if he takes. the appropriate actions, own it, you know, recover from it, man. Like, learn your lesson from it. You're going to have to be, you're going to have to make yourself marketable.

You're going to have to be that person now. You're going to have to go the extra mile. You don't want to do it, but you're doing it anyway. You're going to have to do that. You have to go the extra distance right now. And he should. He should do that. He owes that to people now.

He owes that. So in order for somebody to even look at him, again, like you said, from a higher company, he's going to have to show that he's willing to go the extra distance and that he's a changed person and, you know, can do it now and be kind of like Freddie said. You're to being clean cut, man, this isn't acceptable. And you can't be like that. He royally screwed up and he's royally paying the price.

He, and I don't, look, I'm not close friends with Kyle Larson. We occasionally send each other messages. I actually was texting him. I saw him riding down the street a couple weeks ago on a scooter. And it was a really cool scooter. And I texted him. I was like, man, I think I want a couple of those for my kids. Where did you get it?

How much was it? And we were texted back and forth about that. But I'm telling you right now, I bet that scooter's for sale. I bet every single thing Kyle Larson owns is for sale because I don't care how much money he got. He's not been here long enough to make a pile of money. He also didn't have a great contract when he first signed with Gannasi. I think his second contract was pretty good.

But he's not been here long enough to be able to afford two motor homes, a hauler to carry things to back and forth to the racetrack, this big dirt shop that he's got, his lake house, you can't afford all those things when you have zero money coming in. He's royally screwed up and he's really paying the price. Now thinking of it from a Chip Canassi side of things, they're obviously facing a ton on their side too from a PR standpoint. If you were the GM of Chip Canassie racing, what would you guys try and do to really move on, kind of like take a step back and try and get out of the spotlight from all of this. Freddie.

You know, I saw Chip get a lot of heat for this and, you know, oh, you know, you were, you know, you should have stood by your guy, you should have done this, that. He can't. You know, I think people look at these guys like they're billionaire car owners that doesn't, don't matter. You know, the money's not an object. Like Chip Canassi had to file Carl Arson if he wanted to keep the doors of that 42 car open. You know what I mean? There's the second, you know, you kind of look at this. And right now, this is probably the worst possible time for Kyle Arson,

do something like this because every sponsor in our sport is probably trying to look for a way to get out of their contract. You know, they're not getting the value they wanted on it. So now you have all these companies that are like, how the hell we're going to get out of this contract? And Kyle goes out and hands them an excuse on a silver platter. So now they can go to Chip and go, hey, listen, we're out. You know what I mean? So now Chip's only move is, you know, I got to get rid of this guy. I got to tell these sponsors, listen, here, you know, we're going to take a hard line on this.

I'm going to have to fire Kyle. And that's his only recourse to try and save his company, save his sponsors to keep the sponsors in-house, to keep the doors of that 42 car open. And we talked about, it's not just Kyle Larson. Like when Kyle Larson loses his job, all the, you know, he doesn't have a plane, I don't think, but people that drives motor home.

You know, this guy's out of a job now. You know, these people are, there's a lot of people dependent on Kyle Larson. There's even more people dependent on Chip Gannasi. You know, you got that entire 42 team that if he just says, all right, you know, I'm going to stand by Carl Larson, and we don't have any sponsors. I'm going to do this out of pocket. And now I can run a half a year and all right, I'm out of money.

We've got to shut this deal down. You know what I mean? So Chip Canassie had no choice whatsoever but to get rid of Kyle Larson and now try to save this 42 with whoever he's going to put in it. I think there's a lot of options. I don't know. What do you think, Brett, about, you know, just turning around. Man, I'm going to tell you what I do.

You just said Kyle Larson's 42 team about three times. The first thing I would do is change the car number. There's no way I would take that race car with that car number back to the racetrack because fans are still going to equate that as Kyle Larson's car. I mean, how many years has he been in that car? You know, and how many years have those sponsors been on that car? So I'm going to not only worry about Kyle Larson rebranded himself, if I'm Chip Canassie Racing, I'm going to rebrand my team,

and I'm going to start over with a different car number. You know, they used to run to 40 with Sterling Marlin back in the day. So I'm going to go back to numbers that I can have some heritage with, and I'm going to go get a new driver, and I'm going to put a guy in that car that I can kind of start over with, hit the reset button here, four races into the season. And I think Freddie certainly brought up a lot of good points. But I think, man, when I heard this happen on Sunday night,

my phone went off and said, man, you need to look at what Kyle Larson just did. And I was like, I was sitting there playing an Xbox with Bodie. And I didn't look. I text Freddie. And I said, what happened? He sent me the link. My heart broke. Man, it broke for NASCAR.

It broke for the team. It broke for Kyle. It broke for his family. And it broke for Adam, his shot guy. It broke for Chad as crew chief. There's a lot of guys on at Chip Ganassi Racing that could, to Freddie's point, that potentially lost their job if Chip doesn't take the right steps. And when you see sponsors abandoning Kyle Larson, Chip had no choice but to abandon him too.

And, you know, it's a really hard time for our sport. It affects a lot of people. my phone rang off the hook. What's Ross Chastain going to do? Is he getting in the car? You know, the sponsor that I work with, Neutronite Solutions, they want to know what's going on with it.

So it impacts a lot more people than what everybody, I think, realizes. Yeah, I think, I think everything was handled swiftly and Chip didn't have any option. And I think they all handed it very well to keep their company running in in good shape there. But, you know, the door, the door closed. on Kyle Larson, the door's getting ready to open for somebody else. And this is an opportunity for them to start, you know, who knows, man, who knows. Somebody might get in that car and Kyle Larson's super talented.

But this is an opportunity for somebody, and they're not going to put somebody that can't possibly win races in that car. This is an opportunity to go out there, get a young guy that's up and coming, and put him in that car. You got Kurt, who's a past champion, great mentor right now, I think. I think you can learn a lot from Kurt Bush right now. I think it's a great opportunity for somebody whoever they're going to pick and put in that car. I think it could turn a negative and, you know, this is an opportunity to redo it, you know,

and you got no choice, but this is an opportunity for somebody to get in there and win races. It's a great for it. If I'm Chip Ganassi and I'm handed this crisis, I have three things that I have to get done. Number one, I have to solve the problem. He did that. He fired Carl Arson. number two is I have to keep the lights on through the end of the year because my charter is worth millions of dollars. And in order to do that, I have to fill this car every single week.

And in order to do that, I have, I need sponsors every single week. And then beyond that is 2021 plus, right? I got to figure out how to retain the sponsorship for then and beyond. Like if I'm looking at this thing, T.J. wants to go out and win races. I respect that. We're a racing organization, right? But we're also a marketing arm. If I'm Chip Canassi, I want to keep my sponsor.

So I have to look at all scenarios. It's Jamie McMurray. He already has a relationship with all those sponsors. It's Juan Montoya, a guy you can put in at roadcourses and be a global, recognized globally, right? It's a guy like Ross Chastain that won at Daytona last year. He could go run a plate race for you. Like, I don't know that there's one driver that can fix this problem. And maybe there is.

Maybe he thinks he can run for a championship with this 42 team, and he thinks he can go out and win races and be a playoff contender. I don't think that's what he needs to be thinking. about. I think he's got to figure out how do I keep my business afloat through this debacle that I got handed to me, which is a hell of a tall order. I don't see any. Winning races will keep it afloat. I don't see any way, yeah, that's for sure. I don't see any way that that car races for a championship this year. I mean, people talk about Ross because, you know, Ross is instantly eligible for. He's linked to that organization.

He's already linked there, and he's been in all the cup races this year already, so he's eligible to continue, but he still has to restart at zero. Like, he has no points right now. So, you're not going to point your way in from zero starting now. You'd have to win a race. I don't see them winning a race. If they do win a race, you're not winning the championship, in my opinion. I don't think. So I see a lot of people go like, you know, that's the obvious choice because that's the guy that can win you a championship this year.

I don't think Ross Chassane is, one, ready to win a cup championship, and two would be in position to win one. Ross is a rookie, man. Ross has got all these starts in Cup, but Ross has never had starts in quality equipment. He would come into this, a rookie in a cup. Cup Series. And Ross is a great choice because, A, he's not going to tear up a lot of cars. B, he's going to give you 100%. C, we know he's super talented. He's going to work hard. He's going to race you hard. A lot of positives around that. But is he the guy that's going to, the sponsors are going to jump up and down about. That's the question. And if so, man, he's your

guy. You got to tag him and go with him. My thing is, outside of 2017, when Kyle Larson got hot and won a lot of races, this organization hasn't produced a lot of wins. So all of a sudden, you think they're going to put somebody in it that's better than Kyle Larson and go win race. He says, who the hell is that? Is it Kyle Bush? You're not going to get him. Is it Jimmy Johnson? He's retiring.

Like, there's not a lot of guys who, okay, let's put Christopher Bell in it. Well, guess what? He's under contract. And he's not going to set the world on fire either because guess why? Because he's a rookie. Like, it's going to be a really hard formula that ship has to figure out. And if I had all the answers, man, I'd tell them what they are. But I don't know because I want this guy to succeed.

The last thing that we need is another young car owner to go out of business. Yeah, I mean, like you said, though, you're going to have to, I think it's an opportunity for them to take the rest of this year and put somebody in it that, you know, can be competitive. They're not going to be, it's going to be hard to put something in there that's going to win races and be competitive every single week. But there's people out there that can be competitive at certain tracks and keep your, keep your car on the map there. And I think that's what they need to do.

And then, and build for next year, you know, there's going to be, we got free agents next year, we got drivers moving around, we got up and company. driving drivers. A lot of options still for him, for them to look at. Jamie McMurray, you guys, you'll remember this. How often did Jamie McMurray change lanes in Talladega in one lap? 75. Yeah. The reason was he knew that was a place where he could get his sponsors on TV. He could be competitive and he could be relevant. And I think that's what you're going to have to do is you're going to have to look at who can I get to appease my sponsors and who can I get to keep me relevant. It's, it's, uh, if we knew the answer, we would tell this guy who to hire, but we don't know, man.

But the good news is he doesn't have to be in a hurry. We got six weeks, probably four weeks, five weeks, six weeks before we go back racing. Six weeks? Can you hear my wife digging through the freezer? No. I don't hear all that. No, we don't have deer meat here. You think it's going to be six weeks?

I think best case scenario, we go back racing in middle of May. I think realistic scenario is. Three weeks. Except four weeks. I think realistic scenario is Memorial Day weekend. And I pray we go back racing at someday in May. I don't care which day. What is Offerpad?

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You're spot off. You like it. Spot on, you like it. Spot off, you don't like it, and you say why either way. All right, spot on, spot off. First topic all around coronavirus updates. NASCAR postpones Martinsville and considers running races with without fans once they're allowed to race again.

NASCAR talking with NC officials to get shot members deemed essential so they can return to work to prep cars. And several unseat state senators called for governor to amend the executive order to allow the Coke 600 to run as scheduled without fans. Spot on, spot off, TJ. Spot on. They're taking the actions they need to take. They don't really have a choice in some of these. Like, they didn't have a choice in Martinsville because of the, then they ban the, didn't the, um, the state, put a ban on? Yeah, so they don't have a choice. So NASCAR is reacting to what, you know, what cars they're dealt. They don't have a choice in it. Um, and I think, uh, I think they need to give whenever they decide when we're going to start, they, we have to have a couple weeks in the shot to prepare for it, get things back rolling again. Um, we need time. We need to got, we need a couple, couple weeks in the shot. to get the cars prepared for the, because when we start back racing, we've seen the, we've seen the schedules come out.

We are going to be nonstop. So we're going to need some time. These guys are going to be working hard in a shop. And we're going to be working hard. We're going to be traveling a lot. We're going to be on roofs a lot. You know, so I think, I'm spot on. I think they're doing what they can do.

And, you know, they're obviously working with the state to try to get things done. So they're not coming out saying, hey, this is what we're doing. But I think they're taking the right actions by, hey, let's talk to the state. Let's see if we can get this worked out. See if it's going to be time. If the numbers are lower and we can get some testing in place to make sure we're ready for that, I think they're doing good. Yeah. I mean, spot off for the fact we're not going to have any fans.

Obviously, the fans are what makes it great. You know, we love seeing all. I think last year we saw every week, the three of us would get somebody, at least one person, say, hey, what's up, guys, love the show, whatever. So obviously we love the fans spot on for racing I think we're dying for it right now This eye racing deal is kind of Start to lose this luster a little bit Even Brett talked about you know

I think a lot of the negativity around it It's kind of push people away And it's not new anymore It's kind of lost, it's a lure So let's get some real racing back on TV As far as the shop goes I mean I've heard some people say that they need I think me and Brett talked about it

Like owners are talking about 10 days In the shop they need to be ready for a race I bet you if they say there was a race on Wednesday everybody would be there. You know what I mean? So obviously, you know, best case scenario, you want as much time as possible. but if we're going to go back racing, let's go. We're at racing. Like, get in the shop, get a car ready. Let's go. It doesn't have to be perfect. You know, it is what it is.

Let's get the hell out there and start racing. And as far as, you know, the governors and stuff, we see Florida opening up. The biggest thing is don't be stupid. You know, like if we're going to do this social distancing and stuff, you know, take it right, do it right. But there's something else I want to say, and I forgot all about it. But just that that's the biggest thing is, you know, if we're going to be stupid. Yeah, exactly. And we've seen like, sounds like we're not going to run Sonoma.

So whatever it is, like, however this schedule has to work, I've heard rumors about maybe we run two, you know, we run the week before Charlotte at Homestead, and we run two races to make up for Sonoma. Like, it's going to be a case-by-case basis with the states and when they're willing to open up and what they're willing to do about gatherings. So, you know, if we can't go certain places, yeah, let's just double up somewhere and run as much as possible. But let's just get back out there and get back to work.

I think we run Sonoma. I think we run all the races. I think that we have to run all the races. I think that we have to run all the races because we have sponsorship this in place. Sonoma is a key market for a lot of people. You know, for Neutron Act Solutions, obviously they aren't in the Cup Series, but we sell a lot of specialty products there. I mean, look at the great business out there, right?

So I think that we run all the races. I pray that we get back going in May. I'm spot on for what the government's trying to do to get us back on. You know, look at Martinsville. It got postponed because of a government decision. As of right now, North Carolina reopens at the end of the month. Freddie said our owners need 10 days to get going. Well, we got all those things in place.

So I think the key is, here's the biggest question. How quick can we go back racing and how few of people can we take? Fans are 100% not going to be there when we turn the lights back on. Period. Period. They're not going to be there at all. There's going to be zero fans there. I don't think you see our PR people necessary.

No. Our media people necessary. I hate to say it. No. Broadcast is necessary because we've got to televise this thing. You can go race with a crew chief, an engineer, two mechanics, and a spotter. We literally may only see five guys show up per team at the racetrack. That's the question is we're going to go back to the track with a skeleton crew.

How few people can we do that with, T.J.? Man, I don't know. I do think, you know, I do think they're going to do a lot of media stuff through teleconferences and stuff like that. you know, which is, what's as manageable. Here's the thing too, T.J. If you and I fly down there, we can fly down there on a private airplane. Media can't do that. They're going to have to go through a commercial terminal.

They're going to have to probably stay at a hotel. They're going to have to go to Enterprise Rental Car Terminal. They're going to have to do all these things to engage people. Me and you don't have to do that if we go race them because we have private airplanes. I still think you, you know, to go put on a best, best race. I think you could, you know, you could trim it down two or three guys and no media people really, even, even PR people on our side. Maybe one, one person dedicated to making sure all the stuff set up for the drivers to be able to do their, their conferences and stuff. You know,

somebody to have that all set up and ready to go. But, you know, we can, we can go and do these things with, you know, a few less people. You know, it's going to be hard, man. And it's going to be hard to put on the racing that we do. You know, if you trim down the crews too much more. But, you know, there's obviously everybody's making sacrifices now. And, you know, I'm sure they'll make decisions on that in the weeks. Do you want to go back racing? Do you want to go back racing, Freddie, and do it the right way?

Or do you want to go back racing just to go back racing and we do it however we got to do it? I think you're going back with scaling the crew. I think no pit, you're not going to have a pick crew. You're going to, if we're going to have one session where it's a practice qualifying session. You don't need the road guys. You don't need, I mean, you obviously need a couple of them, but you're not making change, you know, you're not going to make wholesale changes in a 30-minute, you know, qualifying slash practice session. You know, so it is what it, you know, you're going to unload, you're going to go through tech. I mean, even if they go through tech,

who knows what they bring for officials. You know, you've got to have some kind of tech, but it might not be as scrutinous as it was before. Even the broadcast. We've seen them do the broadcasts at some of these infinity races from the Fox studio. So now you don't even have to have them guys, you know, the, the, the, the personalities on TV don't have to be there. So you can just send a truck with, you know, whoever the cameraman and whatever it takes to put on the dark, but it doesn't even have, you can cut that crew down. I think it's going to be. We don't have to have three guys in a booth this big. You're right. Yeah. Like, so it doesn't, it doesn't have to be, you know, you can cut back on every aspect

of it to a skeleton crew and just get out there and get a race on, which I think is the biggest thing we need to worry about right now. Ben? Dave Moody reported several high-profile team owners told NASCAR they would leave if they didn't restrict the next-gen car. Spot on, spot off. Freddie. Spot off. This is probably not the greatest wording because my coroner might call me.

Richard might be. But you can't let the clowns run the circus. You know, these guys, they were right in this situation. and I think it would maybe more, I would imagine it was more OEM manufacturers pushing this than the car owners themselves because, you know, the way the stuff broke down after the announcement. But I don't think you could have the people that are involved in the sport telling the sanctioning body what to do. You know, it's just the sanctioning body. I've heard, you know, like they need to be able to make rules, make decisions and stick to their decisions and not be affected by what the people that are competing in their sport think about. You know, the baseball player can't go out there and say,

I don't think this guy should be able to throw a 90-mile-hour fastball at me. So, you know, I just don't think you should be able to let the people that participate in your sport tell you what to do. I think it's the correct call, man. You spot on. We're not, we can't. With all the racing we're going to be doing a focus we're going to be on the rest of this year, we don't, these teams aren't, a lot of these teams aren't going to have the manpower to, fit get these cars right you know and these cars

isn't even done yet still work in progress and we're not even be able to work on it right now so they're not even they're not able to even work on it right now so why rush it if this is going to be the next gen car it needs to be right it needs to be it needs to be right for everybody and everybody needs to have the right amount of you know the right resources and stuff to put into it and this is all pushing that way back this isn't like this isn't like just changing us you know the the tail clip of the car or something like that this is a whole new car and there's a lot going into it and I would rather we don't we don't need to come out and make a bunch of adjustments this car we need it to be right out of the box the first time and I think that's

more important this gives them more time to get more things right about it and and obviously they you know there was talk about not having it was going to be hard to get supplies for it and stuff now we have time to build that inventory up once they decide about it and we have time to do that stuff so I think it's the right call it I'm spot on for it I'm not say it's definitely the right call we've talked about that on here before that they made the right decision but the question is should it be like the owners are the ones that just like told them this like that that's not in my opinion that's not that's not that's what's not right but the owners are telling them that for a certain reason they're not telling them that for

their own good they're telling them that because they can't this is a big decision oh I understand this has to be if you if you own a team and you don't have the resources to put into that car to get it to make it right when you go to the next year you're not going to want to do it. Apparently it's not just one team. It's numerous teams that were in that boat. So I think if it's one guy standing up saying, hey, I don't want to do it. But if you have numerous people from big teams saying, hey, we just can't do this. This isn't good. I don't know all the ins and outs of it or what all it really takes to do it. But obviously there was a, obviously there was some concern from the car from the team, you know, the owners and stuff that they didn't want to do it.

So Dave Moody has two jobs. One of them is he's a turn announcer for MRN. And he does a fantastic job at that. The other one is he's a journalist during the week on Sirius Radio and on his Twitter. And as a journalist, him and Ricky Craven make me want to vomit. So I'm spot off on anything this guy reports. Okay. And here we go. Let's see who's Xfinity Fast as we head into Xfinity Fast lane. Just a reminder on the rules, I'll give you guys six questions to answer and you'll have 10 seconds to respond. So remember, quick. Y'all talk too much. First question. The 2021 NASCAR Hall of Fame class nominee list has been released. Which three people should be inducted next? How about you, Brett?

Why do I have to go first? I got, man, I'm a huge Neil Bonnet fan. So I say that only from my heart. I can't say it from statistics. I got to go with Dell Jr. Because he's the biggest influencer we had since Delle Earnhardt lost his life in 2001. Not because he won two championships in the Bush Series, not because he won 15 most popular drivers. This guy was a marketing icon and will always be. And regardless of what you guys think, I'm sorry, I think marketing matters.

And then the other one man, Harry Gant. Harry Gant won five races in a row. That was like 30 seconds. Sorry. Freddie, go. Mike Stefanik, Mike Stefanik, Mike Stefano. Only nine-time champion on the board. Also, the quote my buddy Scott Tapley, it's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Stats.

Dale Jr., the most famous guy we ever had, Dale Jr. Dang, that's 10, that's 11. You're out. Suitcase Jake Elder. T.J. I got a pick, I hate to do this, but Mike's... Joynego, Brad Keselowski, and Ryan Blaney. Mike Stefani's record is his stats are amazing.

And also as an ambassador to the sport and his track record is not too bad either, I got to go with Dale Jr. as well. Next question. Which driver do you think Ganesi should choose to take over the 42 car? How about you, T.J.? Uh, me. I'll drive it. No problem. Call me. And not. D. Dang. I would pick Juan Montoya. All right, Freddie. Brett Moffitt. I said last week he should be the guy that gets shot. Brett Moffin. I'll go back to night. Nobody's ever heard of Brent Moffat. No. Well, he can't, Fred anyway. He's got two

broke legs. I want him to get in there and they could do a good PR move and put Bubba in there for 2021. We just need a seat filler for a couple months. I think Jamie McMurray would be a good choice if he'd come back and do it. After Larson was rumored as a candidate to replace Jimmy Johnson in 2021, Who do you think is now the front-running candidate to take over the 48? Freddie. Brad Keselowski. T.J.? Man, I got to go with, I got to go with, I don't know.

It's hard to, you know, looking at Lissa Free Edge, it's hard to look for a guy that I think fits the Hendrick mold. Ding. Is, I don't know. I really don't know. Okay, well, you need a provide an answer. So ready set, go. Me. Done.

Right. Tyler Reddick. Interesting. Hey, Rick Hendricks got a lot of money. He can go get whoever he wants. He stole Jeff Gordon. And listen to me, Tyler Reddick came through his little thing with Junior Motorsports. Like, Tyler Reddick's a badass.

If I was going to hire somebody to take Jimmy Johnson's spot that is an unproven cup driver, I'm going to get Tyler Reddick. So this is a rumor. This is no facts. around it. It's not a rumor. You just ask me a question. You asked me who I think should get into 48? I said, Tyler Reddick. All right. Done. So let me ask you this. Do you think, depending that happens, do you think Chase Haley is ready to be the, you know, the senior guy of the group and the mentor for them guys? Do you think he's ready to do that? T.J., for two years,

he's been the fastest over there. I agree. I mean, like, like lights out. He's the only guy that can consistently run in the top five, consistently challenged to win a race. So he's, I think he's, do I think he's ready to be the senior guy? From a personality standpoint, I don't know him well enough to tell you yes, but from a performance standpoint, yes, he's ready. Yeah, that could be a good group of drivers, whoever fills that seat. Question number four, ESPN began airing a documentary about Michael Jordan in the 1997-98 Chicago Bills on Sunday night. If NASCAR were to make a 10-episode documentary about one season, which year should it be? Brett.

Ooh, so many good years to pick from. There are. I got to go 99 when Del Earnhardt finally won a Daytona 500 or 2001. That was 98. Sorry, 98 when Del Earnhardt won a Daytona 500 or 2001 when he ultimately lost his life. I would think those are the two years that would potentially tell the biggest and best stories about NASCAR. Pretty. Oh.

Sorry. I'd like to see like 2005 championship run with Tony and Clark Laura Edwards kind of behind the scenes there. That'd be awesome, especially Tony's side of it. Looking at like events that happened that year, it'd be hard to pass 2001. There's so many things that happened that year from the beginning of the year to the first month of that season. So crazy. And then even when we get to July as well, huge moment for the sport, man. I don't know.

I don't know if there's even a that's just that year's on you know just crazy with moments even more than that like you go Rockingham the DER car wins the week after that Harvick wins in in Dale's car Yeah that was the first month

Then you get to July though man That win You can't you could have scripted it better than what happened that race and then you know Michael having that run Michael pushing Dale Jr. across the line just like Dale Jr. pushed Michael and then to just just just just just just

Just remembering being on the roof on lap three of every single race. And everybody in the grandstands stood up and held up three fingers. Three for Dale on lap three. I can't tell you guys how many weeks in a row we had a caution on lap three. Like Deller and Hart lost his life. And then for whatever reason, lap three, we'd have a caution. And it was a legitimate caution. Like, and you're literally standing there, man, you're getting chills on the roof.

Like there's so many stories we tell on here. We try to keep them as positive as fun. as we can. Obviously, that was a terrible time for our sport. I mean, Dale Jr. was projected into fame. I mean, we went to, we went to Daytona in 2002, and Del Jr. rented a big house down there by that lighthouse. What's that area called T.J.? Is it Ponce Inlet or something like that? Yeah. Dale Jr. running a nine-bedroom house down there, and we literally went down there for 10 days. They had that big legacy concert. Del Jr. couldn't even go to Steak and Shake. He walked in his steak and shake. Everybody got on their phone, the employees and the customers

call and saying, man, Dale Jr's here. We had to leave steak and shake. We went to ride go-carts. We couldn't ride go-carts because Dale Jr. was there. He was Elvis during that time, and it was because of what 2001, like, boosted him in to be. Like, you can't be in a part, like, looking back at that, that, and I mean, it's hard to believe that was freaking 20 years ago. I can't believe I'm not old. But looking back at that, man, that year was insane. Like the emotional roller coaster we were on because of losing Earl Earnhardt. You know what I think one of the coolest things about that was just even was Michael just pulling his car up next to him in the grass and everybody being out there

and them two standing on that car. That was a totally unplanned moment. You know, the only, you know, I kind of had a little bit of a moment, not as big as that one. Spotter for Jeff, Winnie Joe of the 88 at Indy and him and Tony did them laps around the race, around the track. Totally unplanned. He'd come on radio and said, hey, go ask the Spotter if he'll do this with me after the race. Many don't really remember it, but that's one thing that I always remember that I was spotting for Jeff that race

and got to watch them lapse that these two Hall of Famers made around the track together their last time there. Since NASCAR would have been headed to Talladega this weekend, name your favorite Diego moment as a spotter as well as your scariest. T.J. Favorite moment is obviously winning there.

One there with Joey, one there with Dale Jr., numerous times. Regan Smith. Scariest moment. Rex on the backstretch, man. When your guy, you know, it's probably going to be Brett's scariest moment rolling down the backstretch area to turn three. I don't think anyone's whoever forget that. But just minding your own business, just you never know what's happening when they wrecked out.

Dale Jr. disappeared out of my view one time because the steering wheel came off there. And that, that scared me. Brett. Yeah, to TJ's point, 100% man, watching Elliot flip down the backstretch there. Dale Jr. kind of made a movie. He jukeed him. And Elliot reacted. When Elliot reacted, he clipped Kurt Bush's front of his car. And Elliot went, but just end over, end over, end over. I think it was 13 barrel rolls is what he ended up doing. Scared the living. I got to be helicoptered to Birmingham that night. And, uh, man, the whole scenario was scary.

But to Tj's point, I've been, uh, been fortunate to win a lot of Xfinity races there, uh, with several, several different guys. And also a cup race there, uh, with Burton and Boyer when we did the tandem thing. I finished second, third, way too many times in the Cup series to even talk about. But that is just such a special place for spotters. Yeah, I haven't had any success there. My favorite part was trying to get Trevor to curse when Trevor Bain to say a curse word for the first time in his life when Harvick wrecked us. Didn't work.

He said, gosh, dang it or something. Scariest moment, I haven't had any more scary moments there. Maybe this one time I thought a sniper took out our buddy Roman, but it turned out he was okay. All right. Off the wall question. Three individuals are believed to have broken the Transcontinental record driving from NYC to Redondo Beach, California in 26 hours and 38 minutes. If you were to attempt to break this record, which two people would you bring with you? Freddie.

First guy I would bring with me is Mike Herman Jr. spotter for Chris Busher, because this son can drive forever. We drove from, I forget, it's like 12 hours one day, no stop, never stopped one time from back from a monarch. race. I think he was Winchester or Springfield somewhere. And since Herman's going to drive, I'll just bring Brett. We'll sit in the back and get drunk and let Herm enjoy the whole thing. How bad it, Herman? I would bring Earl Barbin, and I would bring, I'm going to need another fast driver, so I need somebody that's going to get after it. And I'd bring Tyler Green maybe. I'd bring Earl strictly for entertainment, and if you get pulled over, the odds of him getting you out of the ticket are probably pretty high.

So I would definitely And Earl, it's pretty good with snacks. Right. I got to go with Will Arterburn. He's my driver. We'll. Plus, we could just tell Will stories the whole way there.

My other guy I'm going to go with you. You're going to be jealous when I say his name. Henry Benfield. My man ran Moonshire for Junior Johnson. He drove motorhomes for everybody in the garage. I haven't seen Henry around lately. But Henry is a legend in NASCAR. Henry is a legend.

Talk about telling stories. I remember walking by this guy's hotel room when I was at the Wood Brothers, and this was in, you know, like 99, 2000. And Henry is standing there with his hotel door wide open. He's looked like he was 75 since the day I met him. He still looks like he's 75. He's like Kenny Rogers.

Kenny Rogers looked 50 his whole life. So I'm standing there. I walk by this guy's hotel room. Casey, he's standing there in his white he tidies brushing his hair. And if you've ever seen Henry Benfield, he's got a beautiful set of hair. The old white hair guy. Yeah. I think we've figured out I'm Exfinity Fast in today's Exfinity Fast Lane segment.

Take that, Brett. We should show them how fast you are playing shortstop these days out there with Bodie. Now that you guys have all been stuck at home for a few weeks and realize you need faster Internet, Xfinity can hook you up with Internet as fast as the segment was. Yeah, and don't forget to follow Xfinity Racing on social media for behind-the-scenes racing coverage. Casey, did they let you run their social media account ever? I went out the track on occasion I have, yeah. You have the password to that?

I might. It might still be hooked up. Can I borrow it because I could send some really fun photos from the racetrack from their social media channel? Why don't you send them to me? I talk to the social guy every day. I'm not sending them to you. I want to run their account because I'm fast. Their account's fast.

You need to let me run their social media for a day. Yeah, we would need to censor everything. That's all right. You can censor it. Yeah, good luck I don't think he could be trusted. No, not at all. Man, we got some great news here,

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Oh, I don't blame me. Not doing it. Ask DBC Send in your questions 24-7 on Twitter using the hashtag AskDBC First question is from D-Kalin 18 How come T-J gets all the virtual spotting jobs on NASCAR heat and eye racing?

Have they ever asked you to do it, Brett or Freddie? Brett did it, I think, right? You did NASCAR Heat, didn't you? Well, I did NASCAR Heat the video game as a actual spotter. I am not going to be an actual virtual spotter. Mark Smith with Fox called me like week two of the broadcast. I was like, hey, we want you to spot for Clint this week.

I was like, no, I saw how bad he sucks. I don't want any part of that. Virtual spotting is not for Brett Griffin. I'm sorry. I mean, I've had people ask. Bubba's never asked me. I don't think Bubba cares if he's a spotter or not. I've had a couple people ask Tony Leah,

something about a truck race the other day. Jimmy Blue attacked me a couple times. But, yeah, I don't know. Why do you say ask that way, the word ask? There's no X in the word ax. That's exactly what I was just wondering. That's the way it is. It's A-S-K, not A-X-E.

Axe. Or A-X. Let me ax you something. No, it's ask. Okay. No problem. He'll be able. The only, I've gotten asked to do it a bunch.

Axe, you got ax to do it? I got ass to do it a bunch. I've actually, man, I've been doing some Indy car stuff, and it is nuts, man. When we run like Michigan and stuff in the IndyCar, dude, you want to talk about our races can be hectic, but you know how we can see these big runs coming. Imagine that run coming about 10 times faster than what it happens in our series at a big track like that.

I've done Michigan. You're giving me chills. Dude, Texas, I'm telling you, man. And they don't, there is no lifting. It's, I've got to run. Those guys are crazy, man. They're sitting in their basements. And I'm taking it.

Like, I'm going no matter what. I've got, this is going to bring up my rant when we're done. Hey, TJ, when, um, where do you spot from? Like, what, is there a camera, like, on the spotter stand? What do you, I don't know, how does that work? No, so, yeah, you can log in there and you can basically put the camera wherever you want. You can follow the car above it, behind it, you know, move it back as close as you want. It's cool because, you know how whenever we get damage and stuff in the real, in the real race,

will be like, oh, we got a couple laps later. You're like, ah, pictures don't show anything. They get pictures of it. I can literally click a button and change the camera on the car real quick, and I can look at the right side of the car and be like, no, you're good. You're good. But you can, when I do the indie car stuff, I do it from the helicopter view or the Blint view, and I use zooming in or out because those guys, they come with a run from about

three miles back in about four seconds. Michigan's only a two-mile racetrack. Yeah, well, it seems like, it seems, it's a lot. I will say I watched the IndyCar race and the announcers gave you guys gave you some really good credit so you're clearly very well like this is going to be my ranch. It's just the only one they know. Yeah, probably.

No, I'll tell you this, man, everybody, you can see who's logged in as spotters. All these guys like every week there's more and more real people in Ireland. You've got your engineer for your indie car deal doing fuel mileage stuff. You've got the spotter. Oh my God. Dude. Earl. Earl called me.

Earl called me yesterday. He must have did it yesterday for Jimmy. He was trying to do it. So I didn't see Earl's name in there. I did see a name that was in there. It was like, it was like Hall of Fame. Somebody's dogs barking.

Hall of Fame's father. Tamala, stop barking. Oh, my bad. So you can see who's in there. And I didn't see, but there was a name under Jimmy that was like, um something chipping deal hall of famer or something like that i'm like that's definitely earl

so no stats under that name either but uh i'm glad earl was there so jimmy couldn't blame the virtual spotter anymore last question is from pj read 819 with all the intentional wrecking going on in the pro invitational what's your favorite real racing payback of all time right well i got one that was kind of funny and the one that I thought was awesome.

The funny one was Elliot was a bunch of laps down at Richmond and Kyle Bush, it was Kyle's first or second year in Cup. And Kyle kind of bumped Elliot getting into the corner to move him out of way, basically say, hey, I'm on lead lap,

get out of the way. The next corner, Elliot just absolutely chaoted, turned him around. And I was like, hey, what was that for? He's like, tell him, don't ever touch my race car again. I was like, well, damn, look at you being tough. But my favorite one was Ryan Newman wrecked

Del Jarrett at Bristol and I walked down to Bob Jeffrey and I'm like hey DJ say anything right there and he said nope I was like well we know what that means the next time that Ryan came around Del Jarrett DJ turned him head on see you later Newman Hello Newman

That was my favorite payback that I've ever seen But I mean I relate this to personal relationships Not like the best payback I've ever seen Because that goes to Mackenzie 100%. I was going to say Matt Kansas reckoned. Now, T.J. cannot contractively agree with this one. I wasn't working there. I wasn't working there with them yet.

We all saw that coming. Oh, yeah. That was obviously the best one. My favorite one was obviously last year. We sent some M&M cars spinning the wrong way down straightaway at Waukins Lynn. That was pretty fun. And my hand still hurts from the high fives I got that day. So we were leading the Knight Richmond race a handful of years. I don't know what year it was now. It's been so long ago with Dell. I'm assuming this is with Dale.

Yeah. Yeah, and Kyle, you can't, it's super hard to pass on the bottom. We go into turn three. Kyle gets a little loose, catches it, but he clips our bumper when he catches it and just wrecks us. I think Clint ends up winning the race from third, but that was very, I was so angry after that race. But the next race or a race or two later, we run Kyle down. We're going to turn one, and I don't think Dodger meant to do it, but we clipped Kyle, and he just turned him into turn one. and most time I'm like, oh man, I was pretty much celebrating right then as well as probably

most of the NASCAR fans at that point that, you know, it felt like a little bit of payback even though it wasn't, you never, I don't know, do you ever really feel like you get just, you know, you can justify a guy taking away from me. I bet Matt Jenseth did. Yeah, Matt probably did. How about that dumb Brian Francis? He suspends a guy for two weeks after that. What are you thinking?

Well, my favorite. One of my, so me, I'm spotting this race for Tyler Redick in the truck series. And we were racing Hermann Kuroga. Is that his name? Yes. What he did you that guy was? And he would just throttle up out of the dog leg and run out, he run us right into the wall. So what was his name?

Hermann Kiroga. Herm was spotting for him, I think. Yeah, it was Herman and Herm. Who? Yeah. Yeah, exactly right. So we, he runs into the wall. And next time he comes around.

and he passes us out of the dog leg. Tyler never says a thing. Kind of like what Del Jarrett did. Tyler never got mad on radio, never said a thing. Next time, her mom was passing us on the inside out of the short shoot there. I look over there and he's turned right head on into the wall. And I'm like, oh, okay then. Tyler went across about three different lanes to get to that right rear quarter panel

and I guess in his way handled business. And the truck got... Have you ever been mad after getting wrecked? Not you personally driving, but as a spotter. Like, have you ever been really pissed off? Oh, we all get mad when we get wrecked. Especially if you feel like it's unjustified. You know, guys are going to mess up once in a while.

But you never like being wrecked. I'm sure Herschman was, you know, really happy that he watched Freddy's car destroy his at the end of the front treacher at Watkins Glen. I didn't destroy. We just spun him out. I know. The maddest I got was that day where I was spot for Trevor and Harvick needed, remember that Taldega and Harvick was going to miss the chase.

and he wrecked us. As soon as he's running on four cylinders and just wrecked us and wrecked half the field so he'd made him chase by a point, bastard. I was mad at Kyle Busch. He wrecked Elliot the truck at Bristol.

Man, Jesus, probably like 07-08. I wanted to kill Kyle Busch. I was so pissed off because he literally did it on purpose. We cleared him and we chopped him. You know, I mean, it was by an inch, but nonetheless we got clear off too, boom, we took it.

Next corner he dumped us. I wanted to absolutely kick his ass. Be careful what you say around Jason with Kyle. Yeah. That's all going to get cut out. The other time I was mad, Martin wrecked us in New Hampshire,

they were checking up, getting into three, and I was literally on the radio going, checking up, checking up down here, checking up, be easy. Mark Martin comes in there and knocks the rear clip off our car, turns us backwards into the wall. This was 05, because we made the inaugural chasing 04. This put us out of the freaking playoff, and I walked down to his spotter,

and I was like, what in the fuck are you looking at? Were you not telling him we were, checking up and a guy just who wasn't he was it with that stare uh eddie something part dude he looks at me like this like oh was i supposed to tell him something i'm like you dumb ass you just tore my car up i wasn't nuts so right around i think oh four uh mark mart ran into the back of us at texas when i spot for sterling we lifted for a wreck canny strater blew a tire out of four and hit the wall with the right front we checked up mark never checked up and we got run over and then slugger lab he decided to cuss me out

I've talked about a little bit before. He cussed me out for probably almost two minutes straight. It was long enough that I could walk over. I walked over to Clayton Hughes, a couple other guys. I'm like, hey, switch over to my channel. Listen to this. And it was just him going off on me for about two minutes. Clayton Hughes took his headset off.

And he takes it up. And he's like, and he has a real, he has a real accent. He's like, if I were you, I'll go down there and quit right now. Like, it was that. It was bad. So I waited until Monday to go in there. and I was quitting on Monday because I couldn't handle it anymore. I wasn't dealing with that.

And I got talked into staying. Slugger has that effect on people. He does. But the next thing about it is like you can see him 10 minutes after the race, but like, hey man, you want to go get a beer? Yeah. And you're like, dude, I want to fight you right now. I don't want to go get a beer with you.

I wouldn't recommend fighting him either. No, he's pretty strong. Next. Who gets a shirt? Well, who gets a shirt? There's only. Give him both a shirt. Yeah.

All right, you both got a shirt, Brett. Hello. Welcome to Doorbooker Clear's 2020 NASCAR draft. Since the NFL draft is this week, we figured we'd have some fun with a draft of our own. I'm your commissioner Casey Boat, and today's draft will consist of four rounds. Drivers up for the selection have been divided into four age groups, 40 plus, 30 to 39, 21 to 29, and 20 and 8. Under. Each round will feature a different age group. So we'll have the guys draft their drivers, and then afterwards we'll post on Twitter for fans to decide whose team is the best.

So who's four-person, four-driver team is the best and can go compete and win some races. So let's go the first round. Who's the dumb ass to put Angela Ruck's name in here? Who, who, Jason, did you put Angela Ruck in here? Yeah. 100%. He did. What the thing?

Wasting our time. Just in case. Round one. Instead of saying what the No, I want to say what the ruck. Be nice. I'm in guys.

The guys will draft drivers age 40 and under in round one. 40 and over. With the first pick of the 2020 NASCAR draft, Freddie selects. I mean, we're talking about

right now, like this is their, Right now. You're going to pick a guy right now. You're starting right next race. Pressure is on. I'll take Kevin Harvard. Brett.

I want my team to be called Team Fun. So I'm only going to drive people that I think are going to be fun because I want to have fun. Boys just want to have fun. I got Clint Boyer because I know he's fun. I'm going to take Jimmy Johnson. Round two. The guys will draft drivers age 30. Who picked these people? Will you stop talking?

Jason, he was very hard on it. These are drivers in NASCAR. Brett's up. Brett, Fred and then, uh, no. I go first. No. I want to be on, all right, look, I want to be team fun. Oh my gosh. Okay.

The guys will draft drivers age 30 to 39 in round two. With the next pick of the 2020 NASCAR draft, T.J. Selects. I will take Denny Hamlin I'll take Kyle Busch my bad I was going to pick I was going to pick Angela Ruck

but I guess I guess if I had to choose right now I'd go Denny Hamlin over her slightly so on team fun there's two guys

first of all this group doesn't even look fun there that ain't a name on here that looks fun I'll tell you one guy in there it's a lot of fun but you don't know but Martin Truex Jr

used to know how to have fun TJ can attest to that. He's a closet have fun guy. Denny Hamlin knows how to have fun, but he hangs out with some guys that, man, I don't know if I can roll with them. I don't think I got enough money. So, Grandin finger, I heard, it's a partier. He's an Alabama guy. Stuart Freeson. He's a partier. He's a dirt track party. He's a dirt track racer. I'm going to go with Stuart Freeson. He's on Team Fun.

That's a partier. Let me tell you. He'll get Clinton run. Round three. The guys will draft drivers age 20. 21 to 29 in round 3. With the next pick of the 2020 NASCAR draft, Brett selects... Not Joey, no fun, Lugano. He's the first guy on this list. Man, Eric Jones, I heard he likes to get after it.

He's my guy. Eric Jones. TJ. I'm team wins, so I'm going to go Joey. Freddie? I'm a man of the people, so I'm taking Chase Elliott, People's chant.

All right, round four. The guys will draft drivers aged under 20. Hey, hello, we're picking people under 20? Yes, all the people that is on the paper. You gotta guess who's gonna be team fun. I actually know one person and Freddie, you probably know them too. You can't say that. I know, that's why I'm not saying anything.

All right. Round four, the guys will draft drivers aged under 20. With the next pick of the 2020 NASCAR draft, Freddie selects. just knowing a lot about short track racing this guy is probably the next big thing i think don't you know it you jerk am i going next brett man this guy's name sounds fun jagger jones but there's no way that somebody under 20 can keep up with us and this is going to rattle some cages but somebody's going to have to clean up all the mess we're going to make haley digging she's in she's last

Oh my God. I'm going to go with that. Christian Echis. Christian Echis. There you have it. 2020 NASCAR draft. We'll post it this week and then fans can tell us which team, which Spider drafted the best team.

Now, a recap of the teams. Freddie drafted Kevin Harvick, Denny Hamlin, Chase Elliott, and Chandler Smith. T.J. drafted Jimmy Johnson, Kyle Busch, Joe Lugano and Christian Eccas and Brett drafted Clint Boyer Stuart Freeson, Eric Jones and Haley D. So tweet us and let us know who did best.

All right. All right. Rant. T.J. I know you had one, so go for it. Oh, my rant. So I'm spotting that IndyCar race. You know, we ran two practice races, one on Thursday, one on Friday. And then a couple other practice sessions. We put a lot of time into this, you know,

working on qualifying, qualifying good, doing fuel mile and stuff. And we did some pit strategy in a race to get up. We gained a spot. We started like fell back to like six or eighth on the start. Start working our way back up. Did a little pit strategy. Got to second after the pit stop. Racing willpower for the lead.

And we had some guys that stretched it really long to try to get the caution so they could get back in contention. And it didn't work out. So with 10 to go, we run willpower down. we got a lap car behind us with new tires we get a run on will down this backstretch at motagie it's like a loud and it's like a big gateway one sweeping corner real big sweeping corner

one end tight corner at the other end but we get a big run on will power we go to the outside of will and that's the preferred line will blocks the bottom and you can pin a guy down and beat them off the corner well this lapper on new tires running 24th place decides to shoot to the bottom when we're too wide and try to pass us all and kind of misses the bottom a little bit.

Him and Will make contact. Will comes up and hits us and shoots us into the outside wall. And really, like, what point does come in sense? So essentially you're describing Joy Lugano at Dover last year? No, when you hold your position, that's different. The guy's making a pass when the leaders are side by side. So a lap car pissed you off is what you're saying, in a video game.

Yeah, absolutely. I wanted to call it. God, I'll be glad when this quarantine's over. I got, well, you put all that time into it, and you got a guy that's like, if you put that time in it, you're running for racing for the lead, doesn't matter what you're in,

we're all competitive, if you're racing for the lead, no matter what it is, and somebody comes along and just wrecks you to cleans you out, you know. Hey, there's this new thing you can do and it's a two-syllable word.

It's called outside. No. Don't you go outside and do something fun. I go outside. I'm outside every evening, every day with my girls. I got plenty of time outside. Casey ain't been outside all year. Look how white she looks.

That's true. I think I've gotten a little bit, Tanner. It's working on. Casey looks like Casper. I tell you what's the ghost. I have, I bought my, I bought some mountain, not mountain bikes, but like road mountain bikes a couple of years ago. I used mine quite a bit because I put a little seat on the front of it for Stella and we ride around all the time. My daughter rides hers.

Madeline rides hers all the time. Well, my wife. has been hanging on the wall for about two, three years. I mean, to the point where the tires are flat, you can see it sitting there. And here, a thing probably has about 15 miles on it here in the last few weeks, so that's pretty good. 15 miles. I rode that one day. Yeah, well, you know, the soreness you get when you ride for the first time.

It butt hurts. Yep. Yeah. Try that on a broke the ass and then do it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to tell you what my broke ass still hurts on that I got a broke ass literally

I play a show all right well I think we've talked about enough today so thank you guys all for listening hope y'all are hanging in there and as always please help us out by sharing the link to the show on social media and send your thoughts leaves ratings tons of reviews on Apple Podcasts good reviews only good reviews

keep sending the Twitter questions too because we get a lot of questions every week and there's a lot of good ones in there so yeah i'm gonna go back and answer some today i think if you're going crazy you're not alone because i'm going crazy we this driving me crazy imagine his poor wife before this i try to somebody take a picture casey but problem me is tj like i try to live a sarcastic life i try to live a fun life and i'm just i'm just i'm exhausted right now like i can't find that energy to do that right now i'm struggling i'm trying to Who you pissed off this show because last show was the teachers. You got bombarded by teachers on Twitter.

I got bombarded because I called I Race in a video game. So I mean, I enjoy it. I like it. Maybe we should have a... The teachers at my school still suck. Hey, my girl's on FaceTime like 15 minutes a day. These teachers, I know what they get. Man, look, here's the thing.

I'm just playing, people. It's sarcasm. Casey, quit rolling your eyes at me. I can see you right now. I think maybe we should get... Maybe we should have a random spotter or two join us for a couple minutes each show so we can ask them what they're up to. Like get like Monez out there in California. Well, Monez ain't doing nothing.

You know the only guy that might actually be doing something is crazy because crazy's driving trucks for Harris, too. Yeah, he is. He is. I've talked to him a couple of times. He's working. But maybe we should check in with a couple of them randomly out of nowhere. Just call them. Yeah.

Hey, put this on your phone. We're going to call you. We'll put in the group me. Everybody's got to download Zoom. What could go wrong? All right. I think we're done for today. Casey, what are you craving to eat this week?

That island looks a little narrow, Freddie. I, for some reason, really want Arefas. What? What do you call me? A rabbit food? No, it's like a Hispanic food. What is it called? I don't know.

I had it growing up. I don't know why. That's been my craving. What is it? always want pizza. Yeah. Can you say it again? I've never heard of word.

It's like a corn tortilla thing. I don't need you to tell me what's in it. What's it called? I say it really American though. What is it? Arapas? You've seen them, Brett. It's like a corn tortilla thing.

What does she call you? Okay. You can't say that. Oh my gosh. How about like chicken wings, pizza, baked potato? Yeah, there you go. This is better now. Big potatoes, pizza.

I still struggle with eating eggs Brownies I've made brownies every single Every If I run out of the box I make more Regular brownies

What kind of brownies You eat? Regular brownies Yes Y'all the first people I've seen in two weeks I'm sorry I don't want to let y'all go Well if there's any other fans

That want to talk to Brett Just tweet him I'm sure he'll call you Just y'all set out my number Y'all FaceTime me I need to see some new people All right guys As always, thanks for listening and have a great week.

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